It stills being 'buggy' ;)
I apologize Magic Banana, for all the questions where not directed at you,
and I appreciate your assistance, I have a lot to learn, really at every
keystroke I am facing the unknown in trisquel.
We can close out this thread and I think I will consult the pages and learn
what I can.
I
This confuses me after I installed SMTube:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-can-i-watch-youtube-videos#comment-120370
> "I'll have to learn how to operate the SMTube features - but why after
launching it loads up Tonvid.com?
What is Tonvid.com (uses something called Totem) and how do I get
Hi Magic Banana, I now comprehend what you meant in your comment:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/13aug2017-buy-trisquel-laptop?page=1#comment-120344
> "And, again, less than 80 GiB for /home is very little: that partition
should be larger (on another disk)."
> "As I wrote earlier, it is simpler
I didn't cry when trisquel installed but I did go to sleep happy with a smile
;)
Now to learn new habits with the terminal command line...
Thanks for the encouragement and assistance everyone!
Magic Banana, THANK YOU SO MUCH for solving my install problems!
With the new Taurinus Laptop I simply closed the top-lid putting it to sleep
and then connected the ethernet cable opened it up; as I look at the opposite
pointing arrows icon for connected ethernet I see my wired connection
YAY - Success!!!
Your instructions executed and rebooted right into Trisquel "ron@GNU" ;)
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
I note that Gparted is no longer in system settings.
How do I install Gparted and how do I move the /user to larger device?
Something failed, how do I start the sudo from begining - do type exit and
retry everything again?
Here is what happened at the terminal:
ron@GNU:/$ wget https://jxself.org/gpg.inc
--2017-09-02 23:33:56-- https://jxself.org/gpg.inc
Resolving jxself.org (jxself.org)... 96.66.250.147
Connecting
This is difficult to reply to, the ctrl+alt+F1 combo may have done something
but it is hidden from the blank screen.
I wish there was a option to always display command executing to the screen.
I can avoid having to disrupt power supply to reboot with ctrlAltF1
repeatedly, then ctrl+Alt+Del
MY LIBIQUITY LAPTOP!
Arrived moments ago!
My wife said it was delivered precariously halfway (inside/outside) our
wall-mounted mailbox - the package is oversized for the mailbox and the
U.S.P.S. mailman should have knocked on the front-door to hand deliver or
placed it on the porch floor.
While this is an ongoing arduous project for me, I am learning - even if this
is the hardway.
But, I do see progress and what lies ahead is a learning experience (for an
old man) that I look forward to sharing and helping others transition away
from proprietary markets.
Now, having
I'm afraid I won't be of any help here, given all the competent people who
are already supporting you. Trisquel did boot from the live USB, did install
straight on my laptop and now always boots like a charm using only a 350-380
Mio of RAM in user session. Only a few resistant minor tweaks
My wish is for us to chat frequently after I have my freed OS functioning,
the command line will become my new habit to form ;)
Less GUI and more terminal commands.
You said: Such as downloading videos from the firefox browser
I said: I personally prefer to use the command line, but if you want to use
the browser, you will want to install an add-on called "Greasemonkey" and
then a script called "viewtube". You could also use a different browser
Heather, yes - the easiest option is to purchase GNU computers, and in so
doing support the challenging efforts from the wonderful individuals
developing free source products and services.
I wish to see free source thrive worldwide.
I use the phrase "free source" to counter the "open source"
I agree, yes the 80GB /home is too small but I am not sure how to place /home
somewhere eles with out overwriting and possible damaging another disk data -
reconnecting the external HDD would have aprox. 500GB avail.
However I am focused on learning how to solve my Trisquel boot problem.
Thank you Magic Banana for the explanation, good to know.
After Installation the same problem persists.
GRUB menu displays for 3 seconds, then text flashes fast scroll and screen
goes blank computer freeze where reset doesn't work and the physical
electrical power has to be interrupted to
The problem is within the UEFI proprietary BIOS and perhaps other firmware as
well. The best solution is what you have already done: support the work of
the people who built your Taurinus for you, both financially and by spreading
the word that there are alternatives to accepting this soul
Hi Magic Banana, I looked at the sda1 from Gparted and was surprised -
Gparted doesn't list a sda, so the feature is on the install script, I guess.
Okay, I will run install and accept the boot default.
I may allow the install "something else" optional script to also place the
/home directory
ok, I followed your advice, the boot is default /dev/sda1
When GRUB 2.02 menu is up and I select Trisquel the screen goes blank and the
computer pwr freeze (I have to disrupt power supply then turn power back
on)...
USB shows me that Trisquel is partitioned(23.76GB) /dev/sdb1 the home gui
Hi boba, thank you for the encouraging comment - I may cry when Trisquel OS
eventually boots on my machine after this difficult install :)
Ronmamita, your perseverance is impressive and highly commendable. Keep on
exploring the arcane ways of freedom, they are unfathomable.
AWESOME comment!
Thanks Magic Banana, I'm still attempting how to complete the procedure you
outlined here so the video was helpful for me actually "SEEING" this in
action.
With your assistance I am convinced I will have Trisquel running my server.
This someone, as a new comer to GNU needs stress-calming dialogue, so thank
you.
That Grub program has begun to act like a real bug, preventing all OS access.
It's always helpful to know these things when giving advice to someone
new when things get stressful.
Magic Banana is, of course, absolutely correct about doing the job right
so that you don't have to rerun Grub.
Being able to boot from external hard drives is such a nice perk, I just
wanted to
Thu 31 Aug 2017 12:43:34 PM EDT
I'm watching tutorial videos to learn how to install, then I will again
launch install with the "something else" option to properly partition my
devices.
I didn't comprehend how to do this from Magic Banana's comments so the
tutorials are helping me
Hi Heather, come on in!
Don't just poke your head in, you are always welcome to comment and share
freely :)
Using the screwdriver now-a-days, means the task becomes a major project form
me physically.
So while not "impossible" it is unlikely for me to remove and insert devices.
LOL, ha-ha
Thu 31 Aug 2017 10:10:19 AM EDT
I'm using "gedit" to write text.
buggy from the USB - gedit closed without warning and without saving!
That is very bad!
I am using gedit because I thought the culprit was "Abrowser", but apparently
the malfunction is my computer's use of Trisquel from the USB...
I decided to continue, All my sdb partition attempts failed - "NO ROOT FILE
SYSTEM IS DEFINED"
I then allowed the installation to install by erasing the partition when it
finished installation and had my name and password this happened:
Grub 2.04 or 2.somenumber - no operating system... enter
I'm just going to poke my head in here one more time and hope I'm not
adding to the confusion.
I'm not sure how handy you are with a screwdriver, but I would suggest
removing everything. All your Windows drives, Data drives, absolutely
everything except the drive that you want to install Trisquel
Hi everyone, I deleted windows 7 (the war scenario).
I'm on EMERGENCY HOLD, more unexpected messages and confusion on my part.
I typed this message the first time more eloquently and while everything was
fresh in memory after I failed at the Installation, but then Abrowser froze
as I was
Hi Magic Banana, we are playing tag, I have dificulty being idle with the
computer and usually go ahead and attempt to complete my objectives (the
steps I outlined).
I apologize if I confused you, probably because I am confused and not using
the proper jargon to communicate.
My thoughts have
Magic Banana, I haven't deleted Trisquel's install from sdj3,4,and 5 yet
because I have a question and I'm preparing for sleep - can I simply properly
prepare the entire device dev/sdj for future drive device? The sdj1 and sdj2
are not reliable full backup for windows and I wish to put a
Hi my GNU friends, I am facing the Trisquel GUI atm.
I stopped taking my new prescription and feel better tonight, so let's get
started.
The mental gymnastics needed to quickly correlate the drivenames between
windows and Trisquel is difficult, as far as I can see, there is no "sda2" -
Magic Banana Ha-ha, I have a surprise for you!
Earlier, You called something perfectly, PRECISELY what I should look for,
that I missed.
See my comment below.
Hi everyone, I am embarrassed to say how important something I forgot is.
I totally forgot about something that I thought had no bearing on what we
were attempting to do.
Remember I had a unexpected result when I attempted to backup windows?
Evidently, the external drive kit I assembled for
If you really don't want to lose your windows partition that is fine.
If you have the money you can buy a clean HDD or SDD and put trisquel there.
I kinda don't want you to because I see you have 2 HDD and one SSD and space
more than enough.
But you said those disks are important and I
Hi heather
I lost my edit additional comment - sigh so much typing in vain, I won't do
it justice with my retry LOL
Yes, I'm on a budget but I should be able to get additional hardware if
needed, the laptop was the big expense.
No worries, ignore my stated impatience, it is the idle hand
Hang in there, Ron; you're doing great. My advice with the i7 would be
not to stress out over a small outlay of cash (I picked up some used 80
gig drives for my kids for $10 and can usually find 160 gig refurbished
for $20) for the huge peace of mind of knowing that your data is safe
and sound in
Magic Banana I'll play with gparted to search all drives if I grasp how -
thanks for patiently reminding me :)
Hi happy_gnu,
So, Trisquel installation deceived me; hmm Arc seems to thinks so too.
Wow, even the OS is laughing at my ineptness, okay I can laugh too :)
I should have considered that possibility, after Trisquel's install script
asked me to input my user name and password then reboot and never
Hi SuperTramp83 and Magic Banana
I searched the internet to find the meaning of "chroot", too bad I can't put
Win7 in jail ("chroot") if I am using the term correctly?
Thanks everyone, this experience is akin to learning to swim by drowning -
full Immersion - jump in I guess.
But as you say,
That is usually what shows up when there is no bootloader. Looking at the
previous screenshots, I don't think your attempt to install Trisquel was even
successful, as there seems to be no partition on your desired drive or any of
them that could be holding it. That is why, earlier, GRUB gave
It looks like Trisquel wasn't installed. I bet because disk space was to
small. Maybe if you don't care about Windows and you don't have any data that
you care about on the SSD you can just wipe it and install Trisquel
forgetting about Windows for good :)
More unexpected crappiness:
Screen reported:
"BOOTMGR is missing"
"Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
That only repeats this cycle - no worky, so I did a POST interrupt with F8
key.
What do we try next?
Hi Magic Banana, as always I am "hoping" I didn't screw something up. I am
acustomed to knowing what to expect but with Trisquel I am clueless and
everything was unexpected. My USB pen is a 16GB or 128GB...
Anyway, I am unsure where this "computer" trisquel displays is, I do not
recall it
Hi everyone, I'm back!
Hope you all don't give up on me, I have to battle medical issues and
Computer OS stress had to take a number in the waiting line.
I was pleased to read the comments, but I don't understand the buggy
applications nor the GRUBby details - so back to invading Proprietary
>It may be enough to boot a live system, 'chroot' the root partition of the
installed system and 'grub-install'.
Yeah, back in the days of the struggle with the by design fucked up laptop, I
tried this together with a load of other common solutions and had 0 success,
no matter how I tried,
>I don't think that we should call garbage a program that is recommended a
lot by a lot of people, projects and even big companies like Canonical and
Red Hat.
I said **in my experience** is garbage and I'll repeat it: in my experience
with it it was garbage, it helped 0, their answer to
I don't think that we should call garbage a program that is recommended a lot
by a lot of people, projects and even big companies like Canonical and Red
Hat.
In my experience and many more is a great way to solve lots of problems.
I am also surprised you are actually blaming Acer but somehow
Boot repair (the second answer in the link Happy Gnu posted) works like a
charm for me. I just finished freeing another UEFI machine for another family
member.
>oops I must remember to not be verbose
verbose is good, so is concision, but it wasn't meant as a rude critique but
rather a sweet joke.
>grub repair
Grub repair from my experience is just garbage. On some UEFI laptops, the
recent ones, there is no legacy mode and there is no way of
I will be on IRC all day to help you.
Please visit http://libregamenight.xyz for instructions on how to connect to
the channel #lgn, you can connect directly from a browser. In that page you
will find a link and instructions to do it.
I'm back in win7, the grub failed to recognize commands.
I'll reboot to the usb (not installed trisquel) - so you're requesting I go
to the USB pen to execute terminal commands, I was told that would write to
the usb pen...
I don't understand where Trisquel installed itself, and where I
Perfect.
1.- In the file manager please click on the disk that says "128 GB Volume"
In GNU/Linux everything is a file. So instead of letters like C: or D: your
drive should be called something like /sda1 /sdb /sdc /sdc1 it depends.
2.- I see Gparted is installed please go to the
Hi happy_gnu
I'm running Trisquel as "not installed" from the usb to comment here - Yay!
If it is convenient for you, could we schedule a live trouble-shoot session?
the screenshots are below, I do not see where Trisquel is "installed".
I may choose one of the fix-options:
Option 1.
1. set
If you want to try a little more you could install grub- repair
https://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows#88432
Read second answer ignore the first.
This tutorial should be helpful too
Don't worry.
Please plug your trisquel USB again and boot it.
Do not install trisquel. Select try without installing.
After you are in please install Gparted (I don't remember if it is installed
already) and then open Gparted and send me the screenshot.
Also open the file manager and send
Hi Ronmamita.
I really, truly understand your frustrations. I have been their for so long
time and so often - and occasionally I still am. I am very glad you gave this
comment to Heather - as we should always remember to those helping us. For
sure, help and support - technical as well as
Hi Heather :)
I'm finding it difficult to remain patient as I wish to have a fully
functional Trisquel OS, your encouragement helps as I can walk away from the
unfinished task and read your encouraging comment, thanks.
I think the grub commands will work but I will wait to chat with someone
This sounds exactly like what happened the last time I wrestled with UEFI.
I'm pretty sure you did it, Ron! The install is on there safe and sound, you
just need to get it to boot.
I used boot repair on my friend's machine so I'm no help. Someone will be
along before long to explain it to
GRUB TO MY RESCUE?
8 hours has passed since my last Trisquel screw-up. I read The GRUB list of
command-line and menu entry commands
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Command_002dline-and-menu-entry-commands.html
and watched several GRUB rescue video tutorials on youtube.
I
Oops - I screwed something up!
Sigh, I was more frustrated than I admitted to myself.
Changed UEFI Boot settings to "fast Boot" DISABLED, but before that I also
set the "USB Support" option to Full Initiation.
The reason was because of the way the features work, when you select the
DISABLE
OK first of all do a back up of you SSD to your 4TB drive so you don't lost
your important data like your pictures and couments.
2.- In the UEFI go again to Boot and make sure to disable Fast Boot. This is
because the fast boot usually prevents to boot USB pen drives.
3.- Did you create
This is another good morning with storm clouds and rain, happy greetings to
all!
A pleasure meeting you Heather, your kind encouragement is appreciated :)
I am Ron, "Mamita" is my mate - the combined user name became a nic from
seasons past when I was coaching her to use the internet for the
Magic Banana, your reply confuses me, quote:
'https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/install-trisquel-windows-dual-boot-0 details
the procedure to follow when you do not see the option "Install Trisquel
Alongside Windows [version]".' -End Quote-
That is the guide I am following.
When the guide
Thanks happy_gnu !
I wrote down what I saw as the BIOS in earlier comment but I guess you mean
the UEFI in charge of the ASUS motherboard?
The UEFI has a screencapture feature and I attached the bitmap image file.
Apparently the K: drive does have space. You could move stuff from the SSD to
the K: drive
When you are writing a new post, below the box for text there is a "File
attachments" option. You can upload images there :)
hi happy_gnu I'll be away from the internet tomorrow, but how do I send you
images here?
Please go to BIOS take pictures of it and post them here so we can help you.
Hi Magic Banana, I need help.
Trisquel installation reported: "This computer currently has no detected
operating system. What would you like to do?"
Then 3 options, so I backed out of the install procedure fearing I would
damage the Win7 OS.
***I'm on another internet search for help with
Thanks Magic Banana
Yes, I did attempt to "install Trisquel on the USB drive where the running
live system is" - Okay, I won't do that again. Good to know.
Apertium and other Apps in repository will be installed after Trisquel - I'll
wait for the arrival of my Trisquel laptop, while I read
Thanks Magic Banana
SaaS, I have a lot to learn and new habits to form, thanks for the reminder.
I'm typing from Trisquel - Yay!
I found what I was doing wrong. I was using the F2 function key when
rebooting (not sure of the specific differences but this is my attempt to
explain what
hi Magic Banana
I used the webpage below as my guide to install pendrivelinux
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb
I apologize for the above long story but all the details are there.
I decided to park the original bios-settings issue for now, and focus on
getting to the Trisquel
I don't have any computer running gnu/linux, sudo commands are out and I
changed the BIOS settings several times trying to get the USB recognized
first.
The usb is already formated and readable. then I tried to make it a bootdrive
with pendrivelinux.com I thought it worked (no errors
Don't worry, verbose mate hehe :)
If you have there available a GNU distro then format the usb key (you can use
either winzozz - format in fat32, or on GNU you can use 'gparted') in
terminal:
lsblk
Look at the output- the hard drive should be sda, the usb key should be sdb
or sdc. Say
4:53 PM 8/17/2017
I screwed up!
I don't recall what I did last time I installed Trisquel (3 years ago) maybe
I burned the ISO on a DVD disk.
but I don't have that DVD now and my son has all my burnable DVDs so I can't
make another.
But, really I didn't think it would matter.
I have the
>ThinkPenguin
What happened to Chris mate, is he alive, did the nasty coppers jail him. Do
I need to gather the ammunition?
mason, okay will do - thanks.
Thanks Magic Banana, I've decided to buy a dedicated Trisquel laptop to get
me immediately up and running. After gaining experience, the Trisquel cmd
line and home network experience will hopefully encourage me to mod my old PC
for Trisquel too. My long term goal is to make Windows a memory
Again, I don't want to start a debate, but compare prices as specializations
for all of these vendors (except ThinkPenguin, I did not realize that their
computers are nonfree).
hi GNUbahn, thanks for the reply.
Now my thoughts are going full circle - Ha-ha, I'm back to thinking I may
feel more secure getting a warranty service fully functioning fully FSF/GNU
Trisquel laptop ready to connect to my home network.
I will chat with http://www.libiquity.com/
PS:
Mason, I forgot to include:
Asus motherboard bios "alaska -1072009" bios date 12/19/12 16:16:49 ver:
18.05
I haven't contemplated the tech details in 3 years and forget the tech
details.
Think Penguin also invested in a purpose-built freedom-oriented computer:
http://crowdsupply.com/eoma68
The engineer behind the project is still working on it though; they're not
ready to ship and I don't know when they will be ready
Think Penguin sells the USB wifi card that you may need
Ronmamita, which computer are you using? Please post brand, model, type etc.
Mason could be right, and if so it's just a matter of replacing the network
card.
Since there are many other options to leave Microsoft than Trisquel, I
imagine that you approve with the free software philosophy.
A year ago my attempt to install Trisquel failed:
After installation I could not get internet connection - Failed to setup
network...
After much frustration I uninstalled Trisquel.
I'm back with determination.
I don't have a mobile computer (I wish to buy touchscreen tablet or laptop w/
TB
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