Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-21 Thread davidpgil
The thing is I wasn't sure if ppa-purge would just remove the exact package while leaving the dependencies alone. That's why I didn't use it. I'm just happy I didn't have to wipe my system for the 20th time. I'm very thankful for being able to access all of this information on the web and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-21 Thread davidpgil
I just fixed it. :D In the past I always just shrugged and said, you know what, I'll just do a clean install... However, this time I decided I try to figure this out. It turns out the main issue my upgrade wasn't working was because I had lots of packages that were from non-trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-21 Thread davidpgil
Yes it does! However apt is broken and even using wget to install packages that may be missing doesn't acknowledge the pkg files as being installable. :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-21 Thread davidpgil
Magic Banana, after rebooting the system shows a black screen and won't allow me to login at all :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-18 Thread davidpgil
Thanks Magic. I appreciate your response. Booting back in works fine. But I feel like some things may be semi-broken if the installer says it could not complete... I will update this thread with pictures of the behavior I find post reboot. === OTHER SEMI-RELATED ISSUE === By the way, on my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread jason
Yeah, in the Secure Boot world someone could make their own key and enroll it to be trusted in the computer. But yeah, I imagine that most distros that support Secure Boot probably take the time (and spend the $99) to get signed by Microsoft's key so that they can be trusted and "run out of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread jason
"Since when does Secure Boot require Microsoft's approval? That sounds like a version of Restricted Boot." This is too simplistic of a view. Allow me to explain then. I'll copy various things from Matthew Garrett's blog at https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org here. Starting from scratch...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread enduzzer
Is self-signed key now a thing? Linux Foundation is a member of UEFI.org but I was under the impression all distributions used Microsoft's key. I may be wrong as I haven't been following the debate lately.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread onpon4
Hm? But this is what you said: "With the exception of Secure Boot, which requires Microsoft to sign stuff for the project so it can be trusted." Since when does Secure Boot require Microsoft's approval? That sounds like a version of Restricted Boot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread jason
To both onpon4 and lolider, No I did meant Secure Boot. In a Secure Boot environment the user gets to decide what keys the computer treats as trusted or not. Restricted Boot describes a different setup where they can't. The FSF even draws this distinction: "When done correctly, 'Secure Boot'

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread enduzzer
Blueman package is not installed but bluez the bluetooth stack is. Install blueman ’sudo apt install blueman’.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread amoraleslepe5
Hi all! I have been lurking for a while now, following the development of Trisquel 8. Does flidas come with bluetooth support out of the box? I have a Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 card and it has me a little bit confused, supposedly this card should have functional WiFi and Bluetooth without

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-17 Thread davidpgil
... Does anyone know why my upgrade from Trisquel 7 to 8 is failing?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-16 Thread jason
Check your logs. What do they say? Linux-libre had some deblobbing changes with 4.16 - see http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2018-April/003284.html The most notable one here is changing from EINVAL ("Invalid argument") to ENOENT ("No such file or directory") which, in some cases,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-16 Thread onpon4
Is there any possibility the bootloader might have loaded the wireless card's firmware (perhaps newly so because it's using UEFI)?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-04-16T03:09:41+0200 ja...@bluehome.net wrote: > "now is booting as a... UEFI OS?" > > Yup. Trisquel 8 should be fully UEFI compatible. Yay! With the > exception of Secure Boot, which requires Microsoft to sign stuff for > the project so it can be trusted. Our fearless leader said on IRC that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-16 Thread enduzzer
Yeah,it should be restricted not 'secure'. When they say 'security', always ask "whose security?" https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-15 Thread onpon4
Don't you mean Restricted Boot?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-15 Thread strypey
So it's Monday 16. Should I be uncorking a grape juice and rolling up in preparation to celebrate the release of Flidas? Or has it been decided enough things need fixing that the release needs to wait a little longer?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-15 Thread jason
"now is booting as a... UEFI OS?" Yup. Trisquel 8 should be fully UEFI compatible. Yay! With the exception of Secure Boot, which requires Microsoft to sign stuff for the project so it can be trusted. Our fearless leader said on IRC that that's not gonna happen. No kowtowing to Microsoft.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-15 Thread pablo96es
Hello I din't have any problems installing Trisquel 8 mini i686.iso in an netbook atom N280. checksum md5 ok, live image done witn "creador de discos de arranque" in USB ok, booting and installing ok. Success installing Trisquel 8 amd64.iso on a desktop ASUS/Intel. Some problems whith

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-14 Thread strypey
Loldier wrote: "[Fedora Media Writer] writes any ISO." My apologies, you are of course correct. I skim read the first of the links you shared, and got the impression that the instructions given there was the limit of what the program could do. Now that I look again, the images make it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-14 Thread davidpgil
I recently attempted an upgrade from my existing laptops install of Trisquel 7 to Trisquel 8 and the upgrade failed. I have many screenshots showing each prompt. Where do I post this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-13 Thread enduzzer
It writes any ISO. Just select "custom image" and pick a file from your drive. The only part that would be changed is the automatic download which points to Fedora.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-13 Thread strypey
It might also be good to have a wiki page on some of the common problems people run into when trying to create and use bootable USBs. For example, I flashed both main and Trisquel-Mini versions of Flidas onto an old 4GB USB with Etcher. Trisquel-Mini worked initially, but failed during the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-13 Thread strypey
I'm guessing that modifying Fedora Media Writer, to make it work with Debian-based systems and burn distros other than Fedora, is probably more work than forking Etcher and removing the offending behaviour. Don't let me discourage you though, if that's your itch, you go ahead and scratch it!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-11 Thread strypey
There's a lot that could be said on both the topics in this comments. I've started a new thread to discuss Mac-specific problems with Trisquel here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/getting-trisquel-8-working-macs I've also started a new thread on the user respect issues with Etcher here:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-11 Thread wrappy . trial258
Is there a way to download images, checksums, etc of Trisquel 8 over https? For now, all the links are plain, unencrypted http

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
I'd love to contribute; just don't see how it's feasible. I've tried Trisquel on macs many times in the past and now with the latest ISO. Etcher is no magic silver bullet. DD, my personal favourite, or any other program is capable of writing the ISO to disk but they won't show up. There's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
OK, so at least two of us have access to Macs for testing (my wife's is an older MacBook - about 7-8 years old), that's great. It would be great to come up with a fairly reliable set of instructions for installing Flidas on Macs. Shall we start a separate thread to focus on this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
Trisquel 8 doesn't work. Burned an ISO to DVD using Finder's built in burner. All is fine but the disc won't show up at boot. At the same time, Debian 9 and Puppy Xenialpup boot just fine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
I wonder if Red Hats's Fedora Media Writer could be modified to download and write Trisquel ISO to USB. It's available for Win/Mac/Linux. https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/04/26/fedora-media-writer-the-fastest-way-to-create-live-usb-boot-media/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
MagicBanana: >> Software dos not necessarily stop working because it is old. > If there is usable free software to install the live ISO, let us recommend that! We value freedom over convenience.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Just tried using the Flidas USB I successfully used on my AA1 to boot up a live session on my wife's Mac (El Capitan). No dice. I held down the Option key, and got a screen allowing me to choose boot sources, but it didn't pick up the OS on the USB. Do I have to use a live USB *made* on a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Success! Today I: * used wget to download trisquel_8.0_i686.iso - check! * checked the md5sum - check! * used Startup Disk Creator in Belenos to create a bootable USB - check! * rebooted using the USB - check! * checked the integrity of the USB - check! * rebooted and launched a live session

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread dahunt
Since my last post, I managed to get a bootable system by extracting the .iso archive onto a formatted flash drive, having one FAT partition, taking up the whole disk. Once I booted this version, I tried running the screen reader, and got it started, only to have it turn off within 5

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread leoo
"Given that Trisquel, like its Ubuntu base, is meant to be the most user-friendly distro for people new to GNU-Linux," I would say Trisquel is meant to be the most user-friendly distro that is fully free. That last clause matters a lot, since there are other distros that put

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread dahunt
I downloaded the 64-bit version from Jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/RC/ and wrote it to flash drive using the 'dd' command; resulting image is not bootable. I used http in the browser, which works for all other distros' live images but Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread strypey
I'm also getting a weird issue with downloading trisquel_8.0_i686.iso from: http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/RC/ I've tried it twice, and both times, it almost downloaded, then displayed an error in the ABrowser downloads menu, saying "file moved or missing". I haven't moved the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
InfraRecorder works just fine with win 10. It's practical because it need not be installed. There's a zip portable archive.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
Windows 10 burning an image is easy. Just open Explorer, right-click on the ISO and select 'Burn to disc'. Pix to follow if somebody needs them to write up instructions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
What’s up with this devel not found? I get this when attempting to initiate a download from the RC link.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread strypey
My wife has a Mac (running El Capitan), which I can use (with her permission) to test the MacOS instructions. We no longer own any devices running Windows (yay!), but I'm sure there are GNUbies out there who still have a dual-boot, or run Windows on a separate PC. Anybody willing to do some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-08 Thread strypey
Given that Trisquel, like its Ubuntu base, is meant to be the most user-friendly distro for people new to GNU-Linux, what are the recommended methods for installing Trisquel for people currently using: * Windows * Mac * Ubuntu Is there any kind of 'introducing Trisquel' wiki page or document

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-07 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
Hi david, thanks! This is what I'm waiting for.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread jason
Yeah, the torrents never work on the development versions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread Mason Hock
> What's the most appropriate way of reporting these bugs? https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread hartkemd
I found a couple smaller bugs. One is a typo, and another relates to the spell checker/dictionary in Abrowser. What's the most appropriate way of reporting these bugs?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread hartkemd
When trying to open the file "trisquel_8.0_amd64.iso.torrent" in Transmission, I get the error: "Tracker gave an error: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread petelink1
Beautiful! I Googled "tee" before my post, but I wasn't sure if it would work with a terminal session like this. Thanks!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread Mason Hock
> $ sudo apt upgrade > upgrade.log Actually, never mind. If you do this the output won't be printed to the terminal, so you won't be prompted to confirm that you want to upgrade packages. Instead use $ sudo apt upgrade | tee upgrade.log which will both print the output to the terminal and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread Mason Hock
> how would we capture the > terminal output during the upgrade/install? If I understand your question correctly, you can write the output of a terminal command to a file with '>'. $ the-command > the-file.log or in the case of your question, $ sudo apt upgrade > upgrade.log signature.asc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread petelink1
That's great news. Is there a document or URL that you could point us to that gives instructions on how to capture upgrade/install output? I know about /var/log/dist-upgrade, but how would we capture the terminal output during the upgrade/install? Or is that not valuable? And any other

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-06 Thread david
Hi all! Trisquel 8 is almost ready, and we've got a full set of Release Candidate ISO images for testing at http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/RC/ These latest images should have fixed all the issues some of us had with bootable USB drives and untimely initramfs prompts. They also