Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
It stills being 'buggy' ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I apologize Magic Banana, for all the questions where not directed at you, and I appreciate your assistance, I have a lot to learn, really at every keystroke I am facing the unknown in trisquel. We can close out this thread and I think I will consult the pages and learn what I can. I didn't want to wear out your patience - thanks - you've helped me tremendously :) Sincerely, Ron
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
This confuses me after I installed SMTube: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-can-i-watch-youtube-videos#comment-120370 > "I'll have to learn how to operate the SMTube features - but why after launching it loads up Tonvid.com? What is Tonvid.com (uses something called Totem) and how do I get rid of it?" Then I found: ..."while trying to find the answer to my above question, I read this: https://sourceforge.net/p/smplayer/bugs/695/ > "smtube has essentially become a web browser that relies heavily upon Tonvid.com for its functionality. The problem is that it appears according to the terms of use found at Tonvid.com that it is not released under a free license making smtube heavily dependent upon non-free software which undermines those that wish to use it because it is free software." So doesn't this mean it is not "free" and I should remove it? Related to that, do you stop using youtube or do you have a app that searches and download youtube videos without going to the youtube.com url?"
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Magic Banana, I now comprehend what you meant in your comment: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/13aug2017-buy-trisquel-laptop?page=1#comment-120344 > "And, again, less than 80 GiB for /home is very little: that partition should be larger (on another disk)." > "As I wrote earlier, it is simpler to reinstall Trisquel (and, then, probably the newer Linux-libre, like you have just done) setting up the proper partition for /home " The Gparted app is gone and it is simpler to use the version in the install app - as the partitions will be over written each time I run install. When I run install again - will I have to deal with the boot problem too? If so, is there a simpler way to avoid or remedy it rapidly? Even if the boot problem return during another install I now can use the solution you provided, but I haven't decided where to create the larger /home device I would like it to have a full 1TB because I archive a lot of audio/video and images that eats up available storage. As I consider this, perhaps the Laptop is best suited for Master control of My Home Network as it is the TRUE GNU/FSF spec. The network should connect or "share" devices so the new Taurinus laptop is an option to consider for /home , yes? And I haven't considered how to connect the other machines to the network or leave them outside to use the WiFi and proprietary products - any suggestions? - all are invited to comment. ^ I haven't looked into how to configure the home network - this is important and these two machines will be managing the network. This looks daunting at 1st glance with security, routers, IP addresses, firewalls, primary/alternate DNS and VPN-connections Is there a app or script that makes home network management simple to setup? Sadly, I am using unsecure AT ISP broadband, mainly because of their presence as other ISP's were not available - it has been awhile since I searched for competitors; do you have any suggestions for network apps and ISP? ^ What procedure(s) do you employ to search the internet securely? I don't see any Abrowser options for deleting cookies, - does that mean all cookies are auto deleted? Previously I had StartPage (IXQ) now I am attempting to get accustomed to duckduckGo but when I click the links isn't the browser dumped to the website without avoiding cookies and IP address?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I didn't cry when trisquel installed but I did go to sleep happy with a smile ;) Now to learn new habits with the terminal command line... Thanks for the encouragement and assistance everyone!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Magic Banana, THANK YOU SO MUCH for solving my install problems! With the new Taurinus Laptop I simply closed the top-lid putting it to sleep and then connected the ethernet cable opened it up; as I look at the opposite pointing arrows icon for connected ethernet I see my wired connection and 5 WiFi signals available - two are under my control. I would like to set my home network but I'll have to read before I commit to changing the defaults atm. The clock is after midnight and I need some sleep - I hope to hear from you again even as I immerse myself into terminal commands. Gparted is no longer in my system settings and I need to move the /home partition to larger device... So the install saga is concluded and now my terminal command journey begins. I can sleep happy tonight - thanks.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
YAY - Success!!! Your instructions executed and rebooted right into Trisquel "ron@GNU" ;) THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I note that Gparted is no longer in system settings. How do I install Gparted and how do I move the /user to larger device?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Something failed, how do I start the sudo from begining - do type exit and retry everything again? Here is what happened at the terminal: ron@GNU:/$ wget https://jxself.org/gpg.inc --2017-09-02 23:33:56-- https://jxself.org/gpg.inc Resolving jxself.org (jxself.org)... 96.66.250.147 Connecting to jxself.org (jxself.org)|96.66.250.147|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 5588 (5.5K) [text/plain] gpg.inc: Permission denied Cannot write to ‘gpg.inc’ (Success). ron@GNU:/$ sudo apt-key add gpg.inc gpg: can't open `gpg.inc': No such file or directory ron@GNU:/$
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
This is difficult to reply to, the ctrl+alt+F1 combo may have done something but it is hidden from the blank screen. I wish there was a option to always display command executing to the screen. I can avoid having to disrupt power supply to reboot with ctrlAltF1 repeatedly, then ctrl+Alt+Del and the F8 brings up the POST menu. always the GRUB halting Trisquel. What do you suggest next?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
MY LIBIQUITY LAPTOP! Arrived moments ago! My wife said it was delivered precariously halfway (inside/outside) our wall-mounted mailbox - the package is oversized for the mailbox and the U.S.P.S. mailman should have knocked on the front-door to hand deliver or placed it on the porch floor. If it had fallen from that height it would have damaged the laptop. Picture 1 The first thing I noticed was the box-package had a penetrated hole that has me thinking it went through rough handling during shipping. Picture 2 However, upon opening the box the added bubble wrap was a needed protective barrier in place, Yay! Picture 3 and 4 The laptop was in a sealed bag and docked. The three cables and power adapter were in separate bags. I did not find any instructions. Picture 5 All 5 contents are shown in this image or 6 contents if you separate the dock from the laptop which were shipped connected or docked. I forgot to include a small white envelope with 3 Libreboot stickers with the iconic leaping deer black-silhouette image. 1 ea. Taurinus X200; 8 GiB RAM; 1 TB HDD; 1 ea. Dock with CD/DVD Drive 1 ea. AC power adapter 1 ea. 5ft network patch cable 1 ea. 12inch adapter cable (not sure but maybe VGA) 1 ea. 12inch adapter cable (not sure, maybe a card reader) The laptop has some scratches on it but doesn't appear to be any noticeable damage. I am feeling like a klutz, having difficulty opening the laptop, where is the latch? Everything is black and challenging to determine which latch is for the dock and laptop after fumbling I got it to open -Yay! Plug it in and let's power it on! The green Trisquel desktop screen comes on with the system configuration menu. Oops the latop is auto connecting to the local WiFis in the area - how to power off? I push what appears to be the symbol for powerbut it doesn't power down so I close it hoping it will halt and go to sleep or power-off automatically. Move the laptop to the office where the ethernet and modem boxes are, plug in the ethernet cat6 cable, now open the laptop's lid and the sceen lights up showing ethernet connection to the internet. I will now go through the systgem configuration menu... Success!!! My first time seeing a logon box for "Ron" asking for password! Ok, the firs tasks I completed were change the screen background/wallpaper; sleepmode/powersaving; and settings for sound. While in the system settings GUI I noticed there is no Gparted app. I'll have to learn how to install packages and apps that I need. I see 160MB updated software is available for download, I'll start that now. Now I am in a happy mode, despite my unfinished project installing Trisquel on my old server-a/v blog work-horse. I thank everyone here on the forum and Libiquity for encouraging me to find a GNU computer distributer. Thank Libiquity for safely shipping it to me. Chat with you all again soon, cheers!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
While this is an ongoing arduous project for me, I am learning - even if this is the hardway. But, I do see progress and what lies ahead is a learning experience (for an old man) that I look forward to sharing and helping others transition away from proprietary markets. Now, having experience the bad I can see why many individuals are not leaving proprietary. Additional help for the end-user would be welcomed - making installation and features easy to adjust to is something I ask the developers to consider introducing. That maybe some season tp come, as I understand that this is not a full-time career for most. I would like to chat with most of the develpers of libre software and devices (I hear about smartphones) coming soon or already on the market. Hear or read what they are doing and would like to do and share that. Cheers!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I'm afraid I won't be of any help here, given all the competent people who are already supporting you. Trisquel did boot from the live USB, did install straight on my laptop and now always boots like a charm using only a 350-380 Mio of RAM in user session. Only a few resistant minor tweaks remain, which have more to do with personal taste on details. However, I had already been using some Debian derivatives for years so I might have made some changes in the BIOS which may also have helped Trisquel install and boot without any extra tweak. I mostly remember that I changed the UEFI mode back and forth, but I am sure you have already received much more precise advice.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
My wish is for us to chat frequently after I have my freed OS functioning, the command line will become my new habit to form ;) Less GUI and more terminal commands.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
You said: Such as downloading videos from the firefox browser I said: I personally prefer to use the command line, but if you want to use the browser, you will want to install an add-on called "Greasemonkey" and then a script called "viewtube". You could also use a different browser extension called "unplug". Sometimes one browser plug-in works better on a specific video than another so there's no reason in the world why you can't have all of them. They play nicely together. You could also user a dedicated video browser called SMTube. YouTube keeps changing things so it sometimes takes our developers a bit of time to keep up with them, since most of them have day jobs, families, and other responsibilities, but no, you do not have to give that convenience up by any means. You said: blocking advertisements I said: What are advertisements? What does that have to do with the internet? Unfortunately, those advertisements include scripts that are a major privacy violation. When you patch up the security holes, the ads go away on their own. All of these plug-ins are things that you can start using today on your firefox web browser. They are operating system agnostic. I have https everywhere, privacy badger, and no-script on this browser.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Heather, yes - the easiest option is to purchase GNU computers, and in so doing support the challenging efforts from the wonderful individuals developing free source products and services. I wish to see free source thrive worldwide. I use the phrase "free source" to counter the "open source" confusion. I like how "copyleft" counters "copyright" Once my Trisquel laptop arrives I'll have a lot of learning to do to get it operationally assisting me seamlessly in the background as I continue my efforts on the internet. The applications I am currently testing on the Triquel ISO USB stick are very basic and lack many of the end-user friendly features I have made a habit of using. Such as downloading videos from the firefox browser; blocking advertisements; ... As I consider this, Keeping my home network free may be more challenging (and expensive) than I thought. But I think the greatest value is in our freedom, which is priceless. Cheers!
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I agree, yes the 80GB /home is too small but I am not sure how to place /home somewhere eles with out overwriting and possible damaging another disk data - reconnecting the external HDD would have aprox. 500GB avail. However I am focused on learning how to solve my Trisquel boot problem. Oops, the attachments you requested are not in a file ext. this forum accepts. How best to convert a copy to a acceptable format? Disregard, I don't wish to play tag with this I will use Gedit copy/paste to copy as .txt files. NOTE: syslog use special characters that UTF-8 doesn't accept, so that may miss some code, if so You will have to explain how to clone/copy "syslog" for uploading as attachments. I'm willing to learn from the terminal command line.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thank you Magic Banana for the explanation, good to know. After Installation the same problem persists. GRUB menu displays for 3 seconds, then text flashes fast scroll and screen goes blank computer freeze where reset doesn't work and the physical electrical power has to be interrupted to return. What procedure do you suggest next?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
The problem is within the UEFI proprietary BIOS and perhaps other firmware as well. The best solution is what you have already done: support the work of the people who built your Taurinus for you, both financially and by spreading the word that there are alternatives to accepting this soul sucking nonsense. In the future, we all may have more options if everybody was able to do what you just did. Thank you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Magic Banana, I looked at the sda1 from Gparted and was surprised - Gparted doesn't list a sda, so the feature is on the install script, I guess. Okay, I will run install and accept the boot default. I may allow the install "something else" optional script to also place the /home directory so that HOPEFULLY it will work and then, later, we can change the user's partition to a larger size after we confirm Trisquel boots successfully. Cheers!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
ok, I followed your advice, the boot is default /dev/sda1 When GRUB 2.02 menu is up and I select Trisquel the screen goes blank and the computer pwr freeze (I have to disrupt power supply then turn power back on)... USB shows me that Trisquel is partitioned(23.76GB) /dev/sdb1 the home gui allows me to mount it but what do I do now? How can I get my computer to boot to Trisquel? Is there anything you want me to share with you, a image perhaps or text from the terminal?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi boba, thank you for the encouraging comment - I may cry when Trisquel OS eventually boots on my machine after this difficult install :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Ronmamita, your perseverance is impressive and highly commendable. Keep on exploring the arcane ways of freedom, they are unfathomable.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
AWESOME comment! Thanks Magic Banana, I'm still attempting how to complete the procedure you outlined here so the video was helpful for me actually "SEEING" this in action. With your assistance I am convinced I will have Trisquel running my server.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
This someone, as a new comer to GNU needs stress-calming dialogue, so thank you. That Grub program has begun to act like a real bug, preventing all OS access.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
It's always helpful to know these things when giving advice to someone new when things get stressful. Magic Banana is, of course, absolutely correct about doing the job right so that you don't have to rerun Grub. Being able to boot from external hard drives is such a nice perk, I just wanted to point that out to you but my timing was a bit off.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thu 31 Aug 2017 12:43:34 PM EDT I'm watching tutorial videos to learn how to install, then I will again launch install with the "something else" option to properly partition my devices. I didn't comprehend how to do this from Magic Banana's comments so the tutorials are helping me understand what Magic banana was instructing me to do. Magic Banana, if you read this I am attempting to follow your instructions (I would call them informational strategy to deploy because they include options rather than steps) - I wish to determine my steps. Step 1 -from the "something else" install option I will select the device /dev/sdb5 "linux-swap" to change the size? I am guessing, because I have 16GB ram. Then in the "Use as:" box option choose from the menu the "Ext4 journaling file system, click the check box for the "format the partition" option. then select the "Mount point" option. I did not know all the procedural steps with the various options to choose from, for each individual procedural step. The current tutorial I (paused it to comment here) watching is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPUVIc-W13s Then the other steps (for /home and to make the OS function properly) as required. Magic Banana, I must choose the devices to partition so I need to understand this, and I will have Gparted do this as you instructed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Heather, come on in! Don't just poke your head in, you are always welcome to comment and share freely :) Using the screwdriver now-a-days, means the task becomes a major project form me physically. So while not "impossible" it is unlikely for me to remove and insert devices. LOL, ha-ha the external TB drive I just installed for the current win7 clone that allowed me the peace of mind to go ahead with this Trisquel Install project was done after purchasing the external rack-kit to house my spare 1TB internal drive -that was meant to be installed internally ;) My Trisquel 7 installation saga contiues...
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thu 31 Aug 2017 10:10:19 AM EDT I'm using "gedit" to write text. buggy from the USB - gedit closed without warning and without saving! That is very bad! I am using gedit because I thought the culprit was "Abrowser", but apparently the malfunction is my computer's use of Trisquel from the USB... I am not sure, that is my guess, but the point is that I lost a lot of important text typed to you guys for help, and my re-type or re-do are not as good as the original. Moments ago it happened again, when gedit disappeared in the middle of this comment to you all. I am now typing and saving repeatedly until I send it. What I said in the earlier and now lost text to you is that I am having BIG PROBLEMS: I communicated that msg in a more low key manner without the frustration and caps. The points are: "The three partitions you created" should be 'the three partitions the installation script created'. Because, the partitions were created from behind the closed door where I could not see the script commands as they were executed. That is NOT ok. Not only does it miss the opportunity to share the commands and procedures to install Trisquel with me but it also installed Trisquel poorly. It is NOT ok, because the three partitions are of the wrong size and on the wrong devices. It is NOT ok because the three partitions are not accessible by me. It is NOT ok because I don't know how to reproduce those partitions myself. I lack the knowledge, and more specifically I require the specific procedures and commands at the terminal. The above explains my frustration and problem. To Magic Banana, I am attempting to follow your instructions (failing, but I haven't quit); at this moment what are you asking me to do specifically, step-by-step? 1. ron do this. 2. Then do this... 3. If that was successful, ron you should see this... Thanks everyone, I need your help on this.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I decided to continue, All my sdb partition attempts failed - "NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED" I then allowed the installation to install by erasing the partition when it finished installation and had my name and password this happened: Grub 2.04 or 2.somenumber - no operating system... enter name ron ... enter password ... nothing happened - then or now I forget but eventually the screen remained black... ctrl+alt+del doesn't reboot... pwr button doesn't work... I pulled the plug! Repeat - pulled the plug again - int. POST and went to the USB Trisquel then found the ethernet connection lost (reported disconnected but the cable is connected)... Yikes that was a long battle to reach the internet again. Below is an image of the installed Trisquel on sdb and I do not know what to do to get it operational. I guess the last option is to partition the sdb again - unless I have step-by-step guide detailing the installation procedure to completion. I haven't given in to defeat, but in needof some assistance.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I'm just going to poke my head in here one more time and hope I'm not adding to the confusion. I'm not sure how handy you are with a screwdriver, but I would suggest removing everything. All your Windows drives, Data drives, absolutely everything except the drive that you want to install Trisquel on. You probably don't know that Gnu/Linux can boot from an external USB drive. I didn't know this was unusual until I put a Win7 drive in an enclose and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't boot. Once you have a working Trisquel install, you can plug in the USB drives and pick up your screwdriver to put the SATA drives back. JMHO, of course. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Hi everyone, I deleted windows 7 (the war scenario). I'm on EMERGENCY HOLD, more unexpected messages and confusion on my part. I typed this message the first time more eloquently and while everything was fresh in memory after I failed at the Installation, but then Abrowser froze as I was attempting to uplaod a screencapture with the comment and I had to reboot. Thus, this is a poor re-do. ***To Magic Banana: My attempt to install from Gparted failed as I did not find the install features after I partitioned (24GB)sdb2; however the Install icon is coveniently placed on the desktop- I launched install from there. I chose the "something else" install option with intention to partition as per: root partition 24GB sdb2; swap 16GB sdb3; user files (/home remaining GB)sdb4 - however the many options confused me. (ex: create partition: Primary or Logic or etc...; "swap area" or other options; mount point /boot; /home; or other options...) You see my confusion - too many options and what sequence? Please walk me through the proper sequence of steps and correct options to choose to installation complete.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Magic Banana, we are playing tag, I have dificulty being idle with the computer and usually go ahead and attempt to complete my objectives (the steps I outlined). I apologize if I confused you, probably because I am confused and not using the proper jargon to communicate. My thoughts have changed since begining this endeavor, at first I didn't consider this a battle of the OSs but I do now. That may be the wrong analogy but I am operating on that, so I decided to clone windows 7, then remove and replace it with Trisquel - my reason is because there is not enough disk space free to shrink windows drive and install trisquel or as you now explain there may be enough room if I partition different devices on different drives but that further confuses me and so that is where I am. So are you implying that I should not put Trisquel at sdb2 (where windows is now) because it will break something? I am thinking this is like removing the device (similar to taking out the C: drive, aka sdb2 and replacing it with a new device called sdb2 with Trisquel OS), does that make sense? If it doesn't work then I'll put back the clone as if it is the original and come up with a different strategy. here is what I've done, because we play tag and my actions are before your replies, we must be about a 6 hour differential?: Wed 30 Aug 2017 08:15:14 AM EDT I'm back in Trisquel 16GB USB stick. I deleted the 3 Trisquel partitions (sdj3,4,5). Now, my next step is to clone win7 to that external M: device - standby... An hour later, I have completed cloning the C: win7 drive to the M: external drive. Now test the backup by reboot, post int., boot from M: drive? I wish C: drive was disconnected, to be sure it isn't being accessed dispite my attempts to isolate it. If I am convinced the backup works, then I shall install Trisquel on the (/dev/sdb1 and sdb2)C: device. If I feel unsure about the backup I could clone the X: drive and install Trixquel on the X: drive. Let's go for the C: drive as the goal. Here is what I did: From uninstalled USB Trisquel the move option is greyed out so I used Gparted to copy/paste sdb2(C:win7 OS) to sdj3(M: ext drive); then I want to delete sdb2 and replace it with Trisquel OS... This may take a hour, looks like Gparted's copy/paste is like the clone utility. I'm doing this extra step as a added precaution and insurance to restore win7 if the Trisquel install procedure makes the win7 programs unusable. I'll return after that Yes this is my biggest risk, however I do have the files so a win7 system should be able to recover if I screwup. Wish me success.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Magic Banana, I haven't deleted Trisquel's install from sdj3,4,and 5 yet because I have a question and I'm preparing for sleep - can I simply properly prepare the entire device dev/sdj for future drive device? The sdj1 and sdj2 are not reliable full backup for windows and I wish to put a clone disk there as windows' reliable current backup. Wiping the entire disk for full 1TB use will be best, don;t you think? So do I "have to" delete each partition individually or can I do the ENTIRE device with all partitions at once? After I clone the win7 drive to the ext (/dev/sdj) drive then I wish to overwrite the win7 OS drive replacing it with Trisquel. My thoughts are getting foggy, not sure if I'm reasoning this properly. More later, I'm off to sleep.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi my GNU friends, I am facing the Trisquel GUI atm. I stopped taking my new prescription and feel better tonight, so let's get started. The mental gymnastics needed to quickly correlate the drivenames between windows and Trisquel is difficult, as far as I can see, there is no "sda2" - here is my attempt at mapping the drives for reference: C:=sdb2 #SDD fast-boot win7 OS D:=sda1 #Data 1TB HDD my orig workhorse drive nearly full E:=sdi1 #dvd/cd R/W K:=sdc2 #4TB HDD my current workhorse drive 1.2 TB free M:=sdj1-sdj5 #1TB external drive(converted a int HDD into ext kit)backup X:=sdd2 #250GB SSD full (quick access port/easy swap) The above drive map should help us; installation options are sdb[C:], sda[D:], sdc[K:], and/or possibly sdd[X:] I now consider a SDD OS my preferred option because of its many conveniences. More about that and the OS later. The Boot problem has first priority. GUIDING STEPS or baptism by fire: 1. Win7 OS Backup. This has been a new thorny problem for some unk reason and I might as well get rid of it before we move on to other actions. With no current backup as insurance should something go WRONG (w/ Trisquel and my ineptness what could go wrong?) RIGHT? Ahem - unwise procedure. I almost started win7 to format sdj (M: drive/device) My full-immersion-tutelage begins today because I feel you gals and guys have my back :) SO let's stay in the Trisquel environment and learn how to format the sdj1-5 devices! I require knowledge to have Gparted setup the sdj(ext M:) drive. We need to allow aprox 132GB for the win7 backup. If we leave it as it is it has 145GB. Then we can use a clone utility to backup the sdb(C:) drive with win7 OS to the (sdd)ext drive ***I do not know how Gparted operates so any instructions here are welcomed. 2. Boot repair or restore to functional mode. Reboot computer and verify windows 7 starts normally. In preparation to the next step, I shall review the windows backup, prior to moving on to step 3. 3. We shall continue the theme of FULL-IMMERSION-TUTELAGE by over-writing MICROSOFTS' VIRUS aka Windows 7 OS. I'm asking for your help, please from Trisquel shell, help me step-by-step install Trisquel as the primary boot.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Magic Banana Ha-ha, I have a surprise for you! Earlier, You called something perfectly, PRECISELY what I should look for, that I missed. See my comment below.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi everyone, I am embarrassed to say how important something I forgot is.
I totally forgot about something that I thought had no bearing on what we
were attempting to do.
Remember I had a unexpected result when I attempted to backup windows?
Evidently, the external drive kit I assembled for the windows-backup
connected by a USB remained connected when later I returned to attempt the
Trisquel Install alongside Win7.
WHY should that even matter?
Because for some reason Trisquel wanted that newly partitioned drive for
itself!
Never mind that cramped C: drive alongside Windows.
LOL, you can laugh at me, but I ask your forgiveness for forgetting to even
reconnect the M: drive and include it in the search for the missing installed
Trisquel.
So the mystery of the lost Trisquel drive has been solved.
My oh my - what a gaff on my part, and I am amazed by not realizing that just
maybe I should reconnect all drives just to double check and search.
That's the tale of my forgetfulness and ineptness.
Trisquel is my lil' rascal from now on - I see it as a prankster :)
Look at the images and doublecheck that Trisquel installed ("linux
swap")itself on sdj4(23GB free)?
But my folder claims 809.02GB free - LOL, ha-ha does that mean my Lil' rascal
wants the entire drive, including other partitions?
I am still at the step of getting boot to work properly.
Can we take it step by step from the images of my files?
Will passwords, partitioning, and upgrading packages be involved?
Again, I do apologize for adding to our conundrum and not checking this
drive.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
If you really don't want to lose your windows partition that is fine. If you have the money you can buy a clean HDD or SDD and put trisquel there. I kinda don't want you to because I see you have 2 HDD and one SSD and space more than enough. But you said those disks are important and I understand and respect that. So at the end I would incline for you to buy a new disk. That way you won't risk losing any data and can have a safe trisquel installation.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi heather
I lost my edit additional comment - sigh so much typing in vain, I won't do
it justice with my retry LOL
Yes, I'm on a budget but I should be able to get additional hardware if
needed, the laptop was the big expense.
No worries, ignore my stated impatience, it is the idle hand syndrome when
I'm in front of my computer with unsolved problems I start fidgeting to try
out my ideas. If the laptop was already here I would have something to occupy
my computer fixation with Trisquel.
Besides, now that I know it is a battle of the OSs I shall not quit until
microsoft is vanquished - even if I used the weapon of last resort to format
the C: drive - that would be brutal. Ouch!
-Break-
Okay, this is to Magic Banana
I had a long typed reply to you but it was lost to the internet transit.
So this is the brief version, Gparted reports 5 devices (from top to bottom
sequential order) the last is the USB 16GB Sandisk trisquel ISO image.
I took detailed photos, take your leisure to make sense of them, hopefully
they will give hint to a easy fix:
/dev/sda1 model ATA ST...[931.51GB(94%)full 53.03GB free boot Label Data]
{Pic1}
/dev/sdb model ATA M...[sdb1 100MB(74%)FREE Label sys rsrvd] [sdb2
119GB(95%)used 5.83GB(5%)free no Label] {Pic2 and Pic3}
/dev/sdc model model ATA ST...3.64TB[sdc1 unk 128MB msftres not mounted
warning] [sdc2 ntfs 2.39TB(66%)used 1.24(34%)free mounted Label Jun2014]
{Pic4 and Pic5}
/dev/sdd [sdd1 14.36MB(7%)used 185.64MB(93%)free not mounted Label Backup Sys
Rsrvd] [sdd2 232.68GB(100%) mounted Label Archive C Drv] {Pic6 and Pic7}
/dev/sdi model Sandisk Cruzer Glide 14.61GB [sdi1 fat32 3GB(21%)used
11.59(79%)free boot lba(USB) mounted on cdrom Label UUI] {Pic8}
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hang in there, Ron; you're doing great. My advice with the i7 would be not to stress out over a small outlay of cash (I picked up some used 80 gig drives for my kids for $10 and can usually find 160 gig refurbished for $20) for the huge peace of mind of knowing that your data is safe and sound in an antistatic bag in the back of your closet. I don't know your financial situation so I have no way of knowing what that "small outlay of cash" would be for you, of course. $10 can be food out of some people's kids' mouths and no offense intended to anyone of any socioeconomic situation. You may or may not table the i7 when the Taurinus gets here, so do keep that in mind. You mentioned upthread that you have health issues and a wife, both of which need to be prioritized over computers. It's a marathon, not a sprint. I personally got rid of microsoft in 2005, got rid of non-free software in 2011ish, and am still trying to clean up family and close friends' machines. Please don't stress over verboseness. We all know you are trying to squish a talent into a foreign culture. Putting your own experiences into the printed word is going to give you the material to write some wonderful documentation someday. That will save us boardies the time and boredom of writing the same posts over and over again to help other newcomers who could not find answers in the wiki or by searching the existing posts of the forum.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Magic Banana I'll play with gparted to search all drives if I grasp how - thanks for patiently reminding me :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi happy_gnu, So, Trisquel installation deceived me; hmm Arc seems to thinks so too. Wow, even the OS is laughing at my ineptness, okay I can laugh too :) I should have considered that possibility, after Trisquel's install script asked me to input my user name and password then reboot and never asked for my password again or ofer my user name. Sounds plausible, so lets go with the premise that Trisquel failed to install. Here is my challenge: My 128 GB SDD is being held hostage by Microsoft, there is no room/free space for Trisquel to enter, and I don't have the tools at hand to fully remove the invader. OPTIONS: 1. WAIT for Trisquel laptop to arrive (feels like eternity)... 2. Get a helpful application to "safely" mirror the current state of the 128 GB SDD (archive has failed or is suspect at this stage). 3. FORCE the removal by reformatting the 128 GB SDD and installing Trisquel. I am influenced by recent battle experience against Win7 to attempt option #3, that would be brutally gratifying, BUT... I hesitate because the other drives are too important to me and I am uncertain if the data on those larger drives may be damaged or corrupted. There is a disturbing configuration with how the games on the other drives are installed with Win7 on the 128GB SDD - that is likely to cause them to not function. I could remove the 128GB SDD then install another drive and boot from the usb to install Trisquel. Maybe there is another option you gals and guys can offer?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi SuperTramp83 and Magic Banana
I searched the internet to find the meaning of "chroot", too bad I can't put
Win7 in jail ("chroot") if I am using the term correctly?
Thanks everyone, this experience is akin to learning to swim by drowning -
full Immersion - jump in I guess.
But as you say, a learning experience.
Anyway, I haven't decided what I will do right now, I'll pause to consider my
options...
PS:
SuperTramp83, I didn't consider your comments rude, but internet chat culture
is lost on me with most comments so terse that I often fail to grasp their
meaning, and I know I am verbose in comparison to the culture I am not part
of.
Thank you, and everyone for the assistance - the saga is not over until
microsoft's OS has been defeated by Trisquel ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
That is usually what shows up when there is no bootloader. Looking at the previous screenshots, I don't think your attempt to install Trisquel was even successful, as there seems to be no partition on your desired drive or any of them that could be holding it. That is why, earlier, GRUB gave you the "Error: no such device." GRUB was fine all along and just couldn't find the non-existent Trisquel. And I am guessing the grub-repair somehow got rid of GRUB. As for why Trisquel didn't actually install, I think it is because the target drive, that 128GB drive, is almost full, if I am looking at the screenshots correctly. If you can get some of your data off of it, maybe around 30GB worth, the automatic "Install alongside Windows" option would probably work fine. As for why it LOOKED like it installed successfully and actually didn't... who knows! In essence, you are back to square one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
It looks like Trisquel wasn't installed. I bet because disk space was to small. Maybe if you don't care about Windows and you don't have any data that you care about on the SSD you can just wipe it and install Trisquel forgetting about Windows for good :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
More unexpected crappiness: Screen reported: "BOOTMGR is missing" "Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart" That only repeats this cycle - no worky, so I did a POST interrupt with F8 key. What do we try next?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Magic Banana, as always I am "hoping" I didn't screw something up. I am acustomed to knowing what to expect but with Trisquel I am clueless and everything was unexpected. My USB pen is a 16GB or 128GB... Anyway, I am unsure where this "computer" trisquel displays is, I do not recall it from my other trisquel efforts. -Break- ***happy_gnu*** My impatience is showing again, I went ahead to the "computer" device thingy, then to Boot then to Grub and there I launched terminal. At the terminal I launched the boot repair sequence of commands and I'll show you the pics at the bottom. commands in terminal: 1. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update 2. sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair 3. [click option] "Recommended Repair". Will this work - Ready for reboot and drumroll? Wish me success, bye for now...
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi everyone, I'm back! Hope you all don't give up on me, I have to battle medical issues and Computer OS stress had to take a number in the waiting line. I was pleased to read the comments, but I don't understand the buggy applications nor the GRUBby details - so back to invading Proprietary software camping on my property. Honestly, I had no clue this was a war for control of my computer - if I must, after my trisquel laptop arrives, I may simply erase the C: drive with Microsoft and be done with it :) Below are new photos from my USB pen, I noticed a 8GB "computer" icon that I mounted - I don't recall that before and really have no idea WHERE it is on my machine? So, please go slowly as I will eventually remove the microsoft vermin permanently, but for now remember that I have a Trisquel laptop due to arrive so I need the data disk drives for now that microsoft has control over. I'm with you from the Trisquel USB pen and I hope to do this most often until boot repair or some solution is reaached.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
>It may be enough to boot a live system, 'chroot' the root partition of the installed system and 'grub-install'. Yeah, back in the days of the struggle with the by design fucked up laptop, I tried this together with a load of other common solutions and had 0 success, no matter how I tried, grub simply would not install on the hard drive. Acer also confirmed the BIOS they shipped the laptop with was 'buggy' and that we could not do anything about it other than flash the newer BIOS and try again. All in all it was a positive experience though: I learned something new, I managed to deliver at the end and the mate was happy and still is, I also promised to my self to never ever buy anything from Acer again. All fun at the end of the day. \o/
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
>I don't think that we should call garbage a program that is recommended a lot by a lot of people, projects and even big companies like Canonical and Red Hat. I said **in my experience** is garbage and I'll repeat it: in my experience with it it was garbage, it helped 0, their answer to my mail helped 0 and had 0 helpful pointers. As to the 'recommended by a lot of people and Canonical bla bla' that makes no sense, my experience told me it was not helpful. A lot of people recommend KDE but again in my experience KDE is garbage. :) >But I have no idea how to use it. Pretty sure there are instructions somewhere on the page I linked. If not, and if OP thinks he might follow the advice in case the other one fails, I'll be happy to provide you a guide.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I don't think that we should call garbage a program that is recommended a lot by a lot of people, projects and even big companies like Canonical and Red Hat. In my experience and many more is a great way to solve lots of problems. I am also surprised you are actually blaming Acer but somehow Grub-repair is garbage? I can assure you Ronmamita I am recommending you something that works. The program that recommended SuperTramp83 might be good too. But I have no idea how to use it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Boot repair (the second answer in the link Happy Gnu posted) works like a charm for me. I just finished freeing another UEFI machine for another family member.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
>oops I must remember to not be verbose verbose is good, so is concision, but it wasn't meant as a rude critique but rather a sweet joke. >grub repair Grub repair from my experience is just garbage. On some UEFI laptops, the recent ones, there is no legacy mode and there is no way of installing anything really other than Windows and this is by design. I had one similar experience with a mate's laptop. I have spent countless hours reading and tinkering to no avail. Basically each time the installation would go just fine and then will just freeze completely while attempting to install grub, laptop completely frozen, dead, only cold reboot to see again a screen saying me something like 'no boot device'. Acer, which we contacted back then, said we should have updated the BIOS for the one version we had had indeed a 'bug' (no bug at all if you ask me but by design and on purpose feature) that would prevent in fact the installation of anything in there. Long story short (talk about being verbose) I think the only thing you can do is boot the damn thing with **refind** http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ Donate to the developer if you can
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I will be on IRC all day to help you. Please visit http://libregamenight.xyz for instructions on how to connect to the channel #lgn, you can connect directly from a browser. In that page you will find a link and instructions to do it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I'm back in win7, the grub failed to recognize commands. I'll reboot to the usb (not installed trisquel) - so you're requesting I go to the USB pen to execute terminal commands, I was told that would write to the usb pen... I don't understand where Trisquel installed itself, and where I should execute the commands - can't do it from grub, can't get to the HDD so that leaves only the "NOT Install" version on the usb - right?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Perfect. 1.- In the file manager please click on the disk that says "128 GB Volume" In GNU/Linux everything is a file. So instead of letters like C: or D: your drive should be called something like /sda1 /sdb /sdc /sdc1 it depends. 2.- I see Gparted is installed please go to the Applications look for it, muust be under menu settings or system, and open it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi happy_gnu I'm running Trisquel as "not installed" from the usb to comment here - Yay! If it is convenient for you, could we schedule a live trouble-shoot session? the screenshots are below, I do not see where Trisquel is "installed". I may choose one of the fix-options: Option 1. 1. set boot=(hd0,msdos6) 2. set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub 3. insmod normal 4. normal Option 2. 1. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update 2. sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair 3. [click option] "Recommended Repair". Because you shared option 2 I'll attempt that. When you return, please help me understand where Trisquel installed and "if" the boot repair worked what I should do next? I'm thinking the C: SSD drive is full and needs to be optimized for fast functions. Wish me success, my boot repair attempt shouldn't screwup anything? Thank you happy gnu
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
If you want to try a little more you could install grub- repair https://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows#88432 Read second answer ignore the first. This tutorial should be helpful too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlFBl8Q9c0 Don't be afraid of terminal you've got this \o/
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Don't worry. Please plug your trisquel USB again and boot it. Do not install trisquel. Select try without installing. After you are in please install Gparted (I don't remember if it is installed already) and then open Gparted and send me the screenshot. Also open the file manager and send me screenshot of the devices you have connected. If you can't find the option don't worry send me screenshot and I'll tell you where to click. Grub is the bootloader is just a program to start the operative system. It can select between windows trisquel or anything else you have. But first I want to know where Trisquel was installed. As a note when you see error or warning messages try taking o picture of them so we can know exactly what is going on this are not meant to scare you, but to help you find a solution. Instead of warnings they should be called information messages.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Ronmamita. I really, truly understand your frustrations. I have been their for so long time and so often - and occasionally I still am. I am very glad you gave this comment to Heather - as we should always remember to those helping us. For sure, help and support - technical as well as moral - is the powerful fuel that can make us go all the way. For myself, whenever I stood/stand in the middle of those frustrations I remind myself: The reason for those frustrations is (a part of) the very reason to bother in the first place! In other words, it is only because some companies (and ultimately people) have an interest in keeping me non-free and ignorant, that I even need this struggle. Keep up your ideals of freedom and don't loose hope. And this forum is probably one of the best places - if not the best - to get the support for people with ideals like yours and mine. As they say in Japan: Let's do our very best (together)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Heather :) I'm finding it difficult to remain patient as I wish to have a fully functional Trisquel OS, your encouragement helps as I can walk away from the unfinished task and read your encouraging comment, thanks. I think the grub commands will work but I will wait to chat with someone experienced with grub rescue before I leap to another unexpected error message. I finally received a email from Libiquity - so I am looking forward to a real free source Trisquel machine :) I hadn't considered a unboxing, but I will share the unboxing as per your request when the Taurinus X200 laptop arrives, cheers!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
This sounds exactly like what happened the last time I wrestled with UEFI. I'm pretty sure you did it, Ron! The install is on there safe and sound, you just need to get it to boot. I used boot repair on my friend's machine so I'm no help. Someone will be along before long to explain it to both of us. Please post a review of your Taurinus when it gets there. You're going to love it, but it's great to see your determination to free your i7 too. Just pace yourself and remember to take breaks when you need to.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
GRUB TO MY RESCUE? 8 hours has passed since my last Trisquel screw-up. I read The GRUB list of command-line and menu entry commands https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Command_002dline-and-menu-entry-commands.html and watched several GRUB rescue video tutorials on youtube. I do not understand the commands and feel like I'm driving lost on the expressway without a city road-map for correct directions... The videos used/executed the same 4 commands: 1. set boot=(hd0,msdos6) 2. set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub 3. insmod normal 4. normal I would try that, but I want to know what those commands are expected to do, before I type them. The videos all showed the menu comes up either to windows or Ubuntu.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Oops - I screwed something up! Sigh, I was more frustrated than I admitted to myself. Changed UEFI Boot settings to "fast Boot" DISABLED, but before that I also set the "USB Support" option to Full Initiation. The reason was because of the way the features work, when you select the DISABLE option for the Fast Boot the USB Support feature disappears! So I rebooted... I was already prepared to share this with you: Thanks happy_gnu, that mirrors my plan I set for myself, except I had hoped my Trisquel Laptop had arrived from Libiquity (Taurinus X200) by now, then I could feel more secure that my home network was running okay, and simultaneously become acquainted with Trisquel's Terminal. Recall my earlier comment, Quote: "So I went to the DOS cmd line and executed the command: wbadmin start backup -backuptarget:M: -include:C: -quiet Even that had a unexpected surprise for me. This text from the cmd line was unexpected, quote: Note: The list of volumes included for backup does not include all the volumes that contain operating system components. This backup cannot be used to perform a system recovery. However, you can recover other items if the destination media type supports it." -End Quote- Anyway, I was surprised that the reboot gave me the option to install Trisquel!!! I had intended on going back to windows and talk with you - but, this looked too interesting to ignore. I started the Trisquel installation and the option to install alongside windows was available again!!! I asked myself if I should ignore this and back out of the installation again, but I was too happy to ignore the opportunity. I went for it and after the long time to install Trisquel completed its script it asked me to reboot, I said yes and that reboot sent me Quote: "Error: no such device: b474831e-0d52"...[long char-string] "Entering rescue mode..." grub rescue> -End Quote- After about an hour of trial and error at the post interrupt I found a boot to launch windows (it wasn't my normal drive-and I don't understand why/how it worked). So now I have more questions: 1. after Trisquel installation how can I safely check to see if the Trisquel OS is functional? 2. What is GRUB command line? 3. What emergency commands can I launch at the GRUB command line? 4. What does that earlier DOS terminal backup caution mean? I am a bit over-stressed now, and will take a break from the PC; the image as per your request is below, Ciao for today.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
OK first of all do a back up of you SSD to your 4TB drive so you don't lost your important data like your pictures and couments. 2.- In the UEFI go again to Boot and make sure to disable Fast Boot. This is because the fast boot usually prevents to boot USB pen drives. 3.- Did you create the Trisquel Live USB already? Please create it. 4. in UEFI in boot below Fast boot there is a USB support option that says partial, could you click it and show me what options you have there? OK for now I think that is enough. Hopefully the next step will be to install trisquel now :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
This is another good morning with storm clouds and rain, happy greetings to all! A pleasure meeting you Heather, your kind encouragement is appreciated :) I am Ron, "Mamita" is my mate - the combined user name became a nic from seasons past when I was coaching her to use the internet for the first time. I haven't bothered to use a different nic - oops I must remember to not be verbose, thanks Heather. 1a. I shall rid my home network of the Microsoft virus. 1b. Installing Trisquel is challenging but I haven't given up. each failure brings me closer to success. sharing images here in the forum even challenged me, LOL :D I thought all the supported image formats would include the UEFI's "Print Screen" feature, but sadly that was not the case. The UEFI image is .BMP and not supported here at the forum so I launched GIMP, changed the images to .PNG and then copied those new images to my K: drive so I could upload here to the forum. 1c. In honor of Heather I named the folder and here are more images we can discuss: The 1st image is as Heather requested, from the BOOT tab - note, that is a 2.5 page length of options. thus I took 3 screenshots to display them sequentially as "ASUS_UEFI_Boot_p1"; ...Boot_p2; ...Boot_p3; and the last image is from the UEFI's "Advanced" tab that includes options for USB - I think I attempted to alter some of those options, not sure as the UEFI has a script of its own that appears to have changed some of my requests in favor of what works best? That's why I tabled discussing the bios, it's confusing but the Win7 OS still works and the USB Trisquel Boot works, so that is progress. Now for me to get a reliable backup, then C: drive free space to invade with Trisquel...
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Magic Banana, your reply confuses me, quote: 'https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/install-trisquel-windows-dual-boot-0 details the procedure to follow when you do not see the option "Install Trisquel Alongside Windows [version]".' -End Quote- That is the guide I am following. When the guide states "Defragment your hard drive"... and select "Shrink Volume". Is where I ran into the above stated problem(s). I defragged and attempted to shrink and it failed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thanks happy_gnu ! I wrote down what I saw as the BIOS in earlier comment but I guess you mean the UEFI in charge of the ASUS motherboard? The UEFI has a screencapture feature and I attached the bitmap image file.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Apparently the K: drive does have space. You could move stuff from the SSD to the K: drive
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
When you are writing a new post, below the box for text there is a "File attachments" option. You can upload images there :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
hi happy_gnu I'll be away from the internet tomorrow, but how do I send you images here?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Please go to BIOS take pictures of it and post them here so we can help you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Hi Magic Banana, I need help. Trisquel installation reported: "This computer currently has no detected operating system. What would you like to do?" Then 3 options, so I backed out of the install procedure fearing I would damage the Win7 OS. ***I'm on another internet search for help with Win7 backup errors*** My attempts to backup my Win7 computer failed (error code: 0x8007007b) 3x I tried different solutions. I wanted to have a backup so I could install Trisquel - I thought the backup needs to be done and would be safe enough, even though I wanted to wait for the arrival of my Trisquel Laptop. I Spent another frustrating day on failed attempts... I wish my Trisquel laptop was here already :(
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thanks Magic Banana Yes, I did attempt to "install Trisquel on the USB drive where the running live system is" - Okay, I won't do that again. Good to know. Apertium and other Apps in repository will be installed after Trisquel - I'll wait for the arrival of my Trisquel laptop, while I read bash tutorials, and the details from FSF to maintain my free source GNU Laptop. Staying away from SaaS and Mono requires awareness and intentional focus to form new computer habits. Thanks for the friendly support!
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thanks Magic Banana SaaS, I have a lot to learn and new habits to form, thanks for the reminder. I'm typing from Trisquel - Yay! I found what I was doing wrong. I was using the F2 function key when rebooting (not sure of the specific differences but this is my attempt to explain what happened) that took me to the ASUS AI BIOS? But when I reboot and used the F8 key it took me to the interrupted-POST BIOS menu with the option to select boot drive, when I changed that, the POST took me to the USB and Trisquel installation window. So I haven't installed Trisquel yet, because when I attempted installation more programming jargon confused me with options that don't match what I was looking for (to partition sandisk 16GB USB drive is not listed) for Trisquel installation - So I backed my way out and started over from the beginning. I chose to NOT install Trisquel. It (trisquel ISO image) runs from the sandisk 16GB USB memory stick. I think I will play around with this for now and hope I don't screw-up any of my Win 7 OS until after my Trisquel Laptop arrives and can safely work, knowing Trisquel (Laptop) is running properly. I'm learning slowly, more slowly than I would like, but it is progress. * Most of my typed text has red-underlines meaning everything is misspelled - lol I have to train trisquel - maybe trisquel thinks this is Spanish? * I searched for a multi language translation application and want to know what you think about CodePlex software: https://languagetranslator.codeplex.com/ Or do you have a FSF approved free source language translation app? Below is a video sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QRlVP_qWso
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
hi Magic Banana I used the webpage below as my guide to install pendrivelinux https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb I apologize for the above long story but all the details are there. I decided to park the original bios-settings issue for now, and focus on getting to the Trisquel bash command line from the USB. I don't speak French but I read your https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/d%C3%A9marrer-un-syst%C3%A8me-live-installable using google translate. From what was translated I did all that was in your guide by my attempts to alter the BIOS (UEFI) to prioritize the USB. I am considering some alternatives, such as using virtualbox or similar app...
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
I don't have any computer running gnu/linux, sudo commands are out and I changed the BIOS settings several times trying to get the USB recognized first. The usb is already formated and readable. then I tried to make it a bootdrive with pendrivelinux.com I thought it worked (no errors reported) but no boot into Trisquel either. So are you suggesting another App to try again what pendrive did? I'm looking at https://rufus.akeo.ie/ and it reads: > "Rufus is about twice as fast as"... pendrive Yeah pendrive was slow but it worked (as far as I can see), I simply am unable to get the USB to get me into Trisquel. The 16GB USB is SanDisk Cruzer Glide fat32.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Don't worry, verbose mate hehe :) If you have there available a GNU distro then format the usb key (you can use either winzozz - format in fat32, or on GNU you can use 'gparted') in terminal: lsblk Look at the output- the hard drive should be sda, the usb key should be sdb or sdc. Say it is sdb for the sake of the explanation sudo dd if=/home/user/ronmamita/Trisqel.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M ; sync Wait for it to finish. Then in BIOS select usb as the firs to boot and you should be fine On Windows you can use Rufus, I used it a couple of times on random computers around and it worked fine.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
4:53 PM 8/17/2017 I screwed up! I don't recall what I did last time I installed Trisquel (3 years ago) maybe I burned the ISO on a DVD disk. but I don't have that DVD now and my son has all my burnable DVDs so I can't make another. But, really I didn't think it would matter. I have the Trisquel ISO on my HDD, I'm all set, right? WRONG! I bought a USB 16 GB and copied the triquel ISO to it thinking I could use the USB memory stick. But there is no executable file and the reboot failed to stop at the plugin USB Trisquel ISO! This is where I went confused and stupid... Why didn't that work? Okay, maybe I need to change the BIOS boot to recognize the USB first! So I tried several changes to my ASUS AI command module (and frankly I don't remember the original settings after those efforts failed) - so that was a SHOCKER! Sigh, All the tutorial and the documents fail to explain how to step by step complete this. And I screwed up my BIOS settings... Well I'll park the bios settings for later, if ever - because the windows still works and I am too frustrated to focus on that atm. So I search the archives here at https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/ and found a method to create a LiveUSB by downloading Pen Drive Linux's USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button So another download, and install to burn the ISO image onto the USB - well I never... That ISO burn took a long time to setup the USB (I guess USB sticks are slow). Okay the USB still has over 12GB free space so looking good, now let's reboot. Drum-roll please, now for the moment of truth... Oh my, another monumental fail! I only wanted to get some hands on exp. with the shell and terminal before my Trisquel Laptop arrives. I was willing to ignore the internet (as stated above in the previous compatibility failure years ago) and simply practice with the command line and apps included on the ISO image. Now I have screwed up my custom BIOS setup and still can't run Trisquel. Sadly, I now have to ask for assistance installing Trisquel on my windows PC. Because trisquel will be on my home-network eventually this challenge must be faced (and hopefully Trisquel will manage my home network and OS shared on the other computers too) after I become proficient with the bash terminal - which is why I failed to wait for my laptop to arrive - I want to learn by typing at the command line. LOL, Ha-ha I apologize for the long story but I needed to get it off my chest. Please point me to the step by step USB installation that will work for me and my sandisk 16GB 2.0 USB memory stick and Windows 7 Home Premium ASUS BIOS 64bit desktop PC. It is okay to laugh, I simply have difficulty with Trisquel, but I wish to learn.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
>ThinkPenguin What happened to Chris mate, is he alive, did the nasty coppers jail him. Do I need to gather the ammunition?
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
mason, okay will do - thanks.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Thanks Magic Banana, I've decided to buy a dedicated Trisquel laptop to get me immediately up and running. After gaining experience, the Trisquel cmd line and home network experience will hopefully encourage me to mod my old PC for Trisquel too. My long term goal is to make Windows a memory or only a rare visit for legacy software I own - like games. Ha-ha maybe a emulator or mod will work for that too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Again, I don't want to start a debate, but compare prices as specializations for all of these vendors (except ThinkPenguin, I did not realize that their computers are nonfree).
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
hi GNUbahn, thanks for the reply. Now my thoughts are going full circle - Ha-ha, I'm back to thinking I may feel more secure getting a warranty service fully functioning fully FSF/GNU Trisquel laptop ready to connect to my home network. I will chat with http://www.libiquity.com/
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
PS: Mason, I forgot to include: Asus motherboard bios "alaska -1072009" bios date 12/19/12 16:16:49 ver: 18.05 I haven't contemplated the tech details in 3 years and forget the tech details.
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Think Penguin also invested in a purpose-built freedom-oriented computer: http://crowdsupply.com/eoma68 The engineer behind the project is still working on it though; they're not ready to ship and I don't know when they will be ready Think Penguin sells the USB wifi card that you may need to get your current computer working. But you should clear your computer's other components with the people on this forum first. https://thinkpenguin.com
Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop
Ronmamita, which computer are you using? Please post brand, model, type etc. Mason could be right, and if so it's just a matter of replacing the network card. Since there are many other options to leave Microsoft than Trisquel, I imagine that you approve with the free software philosophy. If that is the case, I would like to lead you attention to libreboot. You may already know this, but if not, please be aware, that before a computer starts the operating system, another piece of software is run. On most computers this is proprietary software, i.e. untrustworthy as Windows, iOX etc. On a number of computers this software can be replaced with free software. You can read more here: libreboot.org. Not all is readable for non-techies (including myself), but you can read more other places. If you possess the knowledge and/or patience and will - and for some machines the right equipment - you can replace it yourself. These companies can help you with 100% free computers: US: http://www.libiquity.com/ Europe: https://www.minifree.org (England) https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware (Germany) https://tehnoetic.com/ (aka. Technoethic, Romania - they have the largest variety, including phones) (To my knowledge, computers from ThinPenguin are not 100% free, though all their accessories are)
