In a message dated 4/9/2005 2:22:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
YOU are the one always demanding PROOF, etc, etc, etc. You get yourself into these stews by doing that and accusing others of wrongdoing. Read your own posts and you wont need proof of anything. Alzheimers can
In a message dated 4/9/2005 3:44:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I will stand or fall upon what I alone accept or reject and that's just the way it is JD - there will be no pastor or self styled theologian standing beside me to hold me up so I determine to hear and obey the
In a message dated 4/9/2005 4:32:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Contrast that to your perspective of believing in a Triune God that at the insistence of a non Christian political figure was defined by a group of religious people with diverse opinions of doctrines several
In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"As a communist I dont believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we
In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:00:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I heard it on a radio program a few months back...it is a hoax.
really !??
This is really rich JD. Here I am advocating
love for and obedience tothe Lord (they
go together like siamese twins if we love Him we will do what He says) all the
timewhich you promptly wrest into"legalism and works" for whatever reason and no
matter how many scriptures I post validating
People are still drilling out there though. Now
it is the Ocean Floor; Art Bell is
talking about it tonight. I don't know why they
want to know what is down there
any more than what is in space but apparently they
do. jt
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:15:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a
In a message dated 4/9/2005 1:01:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD in orange
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:54:07 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On the TT List you appear (to me at least) to be completely taken with what you call the "larger context" and the
"Christ event".
In a message dated 4/10/2005 2:37:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So please tell me how you figure I the one who is stubborn and rebellious?? Yes the Lord is able to strengthen the weak in faith who are fearful of eating certain foods (but who love the truth and want to
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:37:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can't afford to allow Romans 14:4 to a
principle of truth, so you limit it's usefulness to the meants only question
and continue uneffected - and you ask me
why I say you are stubborn and rebellious (and
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:23:14 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:JD in orangeOn Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:54:07 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt: On the TT List you appear (to me at least) to be completely
taken with what you call the "larger context" and the "Christ event".
JD: Indeed I am quite
taken
Who is Art Bell? BTW, I do believe that
hell is in the center of the earth, and openings going to and from are in the
ocean somewhere (Bermuda Triangle?) Any other opinions? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Sunday, April 10,
BTW, I remember reading a news article many
years ago about some Russian cosmonauts seeing huge angels around their craft
in space. I even clipped it out of the Parade Magazine and kept it for
years. Does anyone remember that story? Any follow-up? Izzy
I didn't see a smiley face. You did mean to put one
in didn't you?
Art Bell (Coast to Coast-Google it) is the second
most listened to radio host in America (Rushbo is #1). The Show is on 7 nights
per week. He (AB) is now only hosting on the weekends (back problems). Most of
the topics
Another smiley face
intended..right?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 09:01
Subject: [TruthTalk] Angels in
Space
BTW, I remember
reading a news article many years ago about some Russian
No, sorry to be so ignorant, but I never
heard of him. I dont listen to evening radio, and certainly not to
programs about aliens or conspiracy theories. Do you? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:09
AM
No way! I actually had the article from
Parade Magazine. Maybe in the 80s? The article was one of the things
that disappeared during my divorcecame home to an empty house after work
one day. At least my children were grown by then, so I didnt lose
them. (It was worth it!) Izzy
Here it is: http://users.hcis.net/miltozah/angels.htm.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:30
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Angels in
Space
No way! I actually had the
yes.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 09:27
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
No, sorry to be so
ignorant, but I never heard of him. I dont listen to evening radio, and
certainly not
ShieldsFamily wrote:
No, sorry to
be so ignorant, but I never
heard of him. I dont listen to evening radio, and certainly not to
programs about aliens or conspiracy theories. Do you? Izzy
I have never heard of him either,
Iz. Can't be anybody
On 'coming home to an empty house after work one
day': Yikes! I've seen it in films. I've only heard about it in real life. It
sounds unimaginely dreadful. I'm so sorry to hear it.It sounds like life
has turned around for you.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To:
I'm very tempted to ask...and what is your biblical
basis for believing this?
Love
Caroline
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:57
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
Who is
An acquaintance of mine does seminars on spiritual
warfare. When he arrived at a church recently, he noted angels in the parking
lot.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 09:35
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Angels
I've heard of the cosmonautsreporting they
didn't find God, angels or heaven when they went into space. Neither did the
American astronauts who followed later. C.S. Lewis noted he wasn't surprised the
cosmonauts did not find God in space since they didn't find Him here on
earth.
Love,
When you're right..The fabled (non-biblical)
notion of a three decker universe still prevails though false.
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From:
Caroline
Wong
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 10:55
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
We
Here is a reference I found while surfing. This
appears to be different from the first space voyage where they reported not
seeing God etc. American pilots in WWII reported seeing Gremlins. Were they
hallucinations, illusions, or real? Are the Cosmonaut angels the same phenomena
as the
I'm genuinely intrigued that there was nary a
comment on TT regarding that quote from Choo Thomas (she who has visited with
the Lord some 88 times) on hell as so much has been written on it in recent
weeks.
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From:
Caroline
Wong
To:
Will get back to you, Caroline, after the
taxes are done! J
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Caroline Wong
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:44
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
I'm very tempted to
Yup, ever since that little 25 year
episode of my life ended. J Actually, the house
wasnt totally emptyhe left everything he didnt want. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:44
AM
To:
while your at it,
what'sthe theology for this besides your prioroty onfidelity with
humans and humanism?
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:36:52 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
after the taxes are
done!
In a message dated 4/10/2005 3:51:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:37:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can't afford to allow Romans 14:4 to a principle of truth, so you limit it's usefulness to the meants only question and continue uneffected
Caroline, its just speculation on
my part due to the following verses:
zech:911As
for you also, because of the blood of My covenant with you,
I have set your prisoners
free from the waterless pit.
Matt
12: 43Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes
through waterless
Maybe they couldnt get into the
church? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:45
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Angels in
Space
An acquaintance of mine does seminars on
I think the drilling to hell story was old
also (80s?). However Id like to find documentation of the
cosmonaut story being false; do you have it? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Caroline Wong
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:56
AM
To:
It would sure be nice if you ever backed
up your opinions with some kind of verification, Lance. Got any? Personally I
wouldnt be surprised if there are a whole lot more than 3 layers. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday,
Never heard of her either (being out of
the aliens/conspiracy theory loop). Was she proven a hoax also? Whats
her story? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:11
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject:
Wishing I could understand your questionIzzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:50
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
while your at
it, what'sthe theology
I just did mine and I owe $14. Oh well, it could be
worse. :-)
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:36
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
Will get back to you,
Caroline, after
Sounds like a desert. It might be metaphorical for
places that are not hospitable to demons. This is speculation on my part too but
I think demons feed off humans especially human pain, anger and despair. When
they are evicted from their host, they search for another. One bible study we
When you look up 'ex cathedra' in the dictionary
you see my picture so.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 12:52
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
It would sure be nice
if you
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From: Hughes Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 10, 2005 13:17
Subject: McLaren Reviews
In The Last Word and the Word After That, Brian McLaren completes his
New Kind of Christian trilogy. Since McLaren describes his writing as
Lance Muir wrote:
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From: Hughes Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 10, 2005 13:17
Subject: McLaren Reviews
In The Last Word and the Word After That, Brian McLaren completes his
New Kind of Christian trilogy. Since McLaren describes
Pope Lance???
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:22
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
When you look up 'ex cathedra' in the dictionary you see my
picture
I've no idea when any of you last visited a Christian (?) bookstore but,
Terry's response (not necessarily concerning this book) in general is more
correct than incorrect.
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From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005
Seems to me that hell is the waterless pit
(see below). It seems possible that the opening to hell could be thru the
ocean (a watery place). If they are cast out they dont want to return to
hell thru the watery places, but seek another body to inhabit. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL
One line I have trouble with in the second review is: Upon publication of
this book, McLaren is going to find out who...the real Christians in his
midst are. How the hell will he know?
Debbie
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From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
I've had no 'bleep(ing)' report.
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From: Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 10, 2005 14:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: McLaren Reviews
One line I have trouble with in the second review is: Upon publication of
this book,
Did he say if they were the good kind or the evil
ones? judyt
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:44:32 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An acquaintance of mine does seminars on
spiritual warfare. When he arrived at a church recently, he noted angels in
the parking lot.
-
paying their taxes
is an afterthought with some People on record here, not a priority..of course,
you didn't say you are paying tax, yousaidare 'doing'
taxes, below...initially, then, what does'doing taxes'mean? Warren
Buffet and you may have more in common than appearsat first
blush...
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
One line I have trouble with in the second review is: Upon
publication of this book, McLaren is going to find out who...the real
Christians in his midst are. How the hell will he know?
Debbie
==
The neat way
Youll make gazillions, Terry! J Izzy
==
If someone were to write a book saying that the Bible is true,
you can
trust it, it would be a very short book. Very few people would
buy it
and the author would die a
I was suspecting he was going to take the other neat route:
negative review of my book = not a real Christian
Debbie
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From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: McLaren Reviews
It actually means we are all getting done
over by Uncle Sam. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of
Hell
paying their
..wishing you
couldunderstand the question
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:40:13 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It actually means we
are all getting done over by Uncle Sam.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
I was suspecting he was going to take the other neat route:
negative review of my book = not a real Christian
Debbie
===
Only a slim possibility. That's the way we do it here. Surely authors
have higher standards to
By how much hell they raise :-)
Love,
Caroline
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From: Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: McLaren Reviews
One line I have trouble with in the second review is: Upon
Oracles of God a phrase used in the NT three times: once in Romans 3:2 where the Jews are in possession of ...; Heb 5:12 where we have the first principles of the ..; I Peter 4:11 where our speech is to be as if we were speaking the ."
It is used of the "utterances" of
DavidH wrote:
... After pondering all that, I do find it curious that you would claim
Mormons believe a different Jesus than is found in the Bible.
Ponder this:
The Jesus of the Bible is not the brother of Satan, a fallen archangel.
The Jesus of the Bible is not the son of a man-come-god from
How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 "many are called; few are chosen" with passages like Rev. 7:9 "more than could be counted .. from every nation and tribe?"
Do we realize that statements such as Matt 22:14 ARE LIMITED to the Gospel Accounts? When Christ speaks of "many are called and few are
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