RE: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-04 Thread Slade Henson
Perhaps when we follow the physical cleanliness laws, we not only get physically clean, but we get “spiritually clean” in the process because of our obedience.   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Wednesday, August

[TruthTalk] Bankruptcy of a Church

2004-08-04 Thread Slade Henson
ï The Bankruptcy of a Church   http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=2010672&nav=14RTOYbw http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0709diocese09.html http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/front_page/1091447770312870.xml http://seattletimes.nwsource.co

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-05 Thread Slade Henson
It wasn't Moses who came up with this stuff Slade; God Himself gave Moses the instruction while he was on the Mount ie: tell the Children of Israel to take up a collection, tell them to do this and that.   True and you should know by now that arguing over THIS point is a waste of breath.

RE: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-05 Thread Slade Henson
It seems Messiah was saying that the Jewish people could not rely strictly on their heritage from Avraham. Remember… the essence (heritage from Avraham) is not as important as the function (the acts of Avraham).   -- slade   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E

RE: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-05 Thread Slade Henson
John. You said, “John's speech, joining repentance (a turning around  --  which is something other than the problematic defilement) to immersion was unique.” Can you give a reference or something so I can go and read what this person might have said because coming from my perspective, this

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-05 Thread Slade Henson
Title: jt: Did he see it or was he told it jt: Did he see it or was he told it? We know from scripture that God speaks in various ways, some see visions, others have dreams but God himself said Moses was a friend to whom He spoke face to face (Exodus 33:11). Moses does not communicate it a

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-06 Thread Slade Henson
Why is the symbolism greater than the physical? To follow this logic, then the Statue of Liberty (the “symbol” of liberty) is far more important than the liberty itself. Surely you don’t think this is true!!?   -- slade I was referring to physical cleanliness, but the symbolism is als

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-06 Thread Slade Henson
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism   Why is the symbolism greater than the physical? To follow this logic, then the Statue of Liberty (the “symbol” of liberty)

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-06 Thread Slade Henson
Title: jt: Did he see it or was he told it I’ve heard this “logorrhea” J before and I looked-into the legitimacy of it for a length of time. I’m not so sure any longer and I may be the loner on this one, too. I just need to linger on your lingo a little longer before I can lunge into a loqu

RE: [TruthTalk] Faith and Works

2004-08-07 Thread Slade Henson
Perhaps when God tests people’s faith, He is not testing it in order for HIM to see if it’s real… but for the PERSON to see if it’s real.   -- slade   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:

RE: [TruthTalk] Faith and Works

2004-08-07 Thread Slade Henson
Do you have the chutzpa to endure when He “tries your works by fire?” How about when he “tests your heart?” Do you have the faith to stand and be counted as one who endures? What “power” is it that allows you to stand? Is it not the faith given to us by the Spirit of the Holy One of Yisrae

RE: [TruthTalk] Faith and Works

2004-08-07 Thread Slade Henson
I haven't hear it put quite that way before Slade… Chutzpa? I understood it is meekness that comes through faith, like what Moses had, and it is the faith of Jesus by which we stand since He is both author and finisher. The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth and anoints God's Word with si

RE: [TruthTalk] Faith and Works

2004-08-08 Thread Slade Henson
I can name Several but that waSn’t the point of the poSt.   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, 08 August, 2004 04:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Faith and Works   I don't know Gary, this is t

[TruthTalk] Something Old, Something New

2004-08-08 Thread Slade Henson
Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?  And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from t

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-12 Thread Slade Henson
This is all assuming that there are at least 10 righteous men in Tampa, FL. My wife thinks they're all on I-4 heading towards Orlando.   --slade     -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of michael douglasSent: Thursday, August 12,

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-12 Thread Slade Henson
By the way...I am a Tampa resident in zone A right now and under mandatory evacuation. "The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful." :)   We're fine, you about you David???   --slade   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Slade

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] and kids from Pops

2004-08-14 Thread Slade Henson
We weren’t in Tampa as we were evacuated out on Thursday because we’re approximately 1.2 miles from the shore (with about half a million other people) to…of all places…..ORLANDO! Storm was pretty awesome, no damage to our home or the hotel where we were staying. Got some pictures on the di

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-18 Thread Slade Henson
As of 16 Aug 2004 09:00, It was 320 nautical miles south-southwest of San Juan, 510 nautical miles west of Barbados, and 945 nautical miles east of Puerto Cabezas. (Coordinates: -67.2 Long, 13.2 Lat.)   Earl was currently traveling WNW at 21 MPH with a wind speed of 46 mph and an internal

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-19 Thread Slade Henson
be of interest to me. Thanx in advance.    Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As of 16 Aug 2004 09:00, It was 320 nautical miles south-southwest of San Juan, 510 nautical miles west of Barbados, and 945 nautical miles east of Puerto Cabezas. (Coordinates: -67.2 Long, 13.2 Lat.)

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-19 Thread Slade Henson
Romans 1.12-16 – a passage rather hard to encapsulate in a quick note.   I think v.12 speak of those who live outside the framework of Torah. I.e., “without the Law” -or- “under the law”  = “outside the framework of Torah”   In v.13, hearers of Torah (rather than readers, because of the

[TruthTalk] It is the law or the spirit. I have no desire to be placed under law -- kinda like Paul

2004-08-19 Thread Slade Henson
Can I ask a few questions?     Many people claim they are New Covenant believers. Can you specify exactly what that means? Please use the definition of New Covenant as given in Jeremiah 31.31-37, paying close attention to verse 34 and keeping that verse within

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-19 Thread Slade Henson
Terry: There was sin and there was a penalty for sin long before Torah.   Slade: True   Mankind left the garden with knowledge of good and evil.   True. It seems as generations progress, humanity is losing this knowledge J   Sometime later the law came   Torah was revealed at Sin

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

2004-08-20 Thread Slade Henson
Abraham was a Gentile, prior to Jews and prior to law.  The law was temporary, but you cannot understand that now so there is no point in pursuing this thread.  Maybe some day. Terry My intent here is not to anger you. Perhaps you’re right. However, the lack of understanding is not on my

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?

2004-08-20 Thread Slade Henson
Hello Terry.   You and I hear different views from the same text. Both you and I realize this. I hold no animosity toward you for your views, and I am pleased to hear you don’t hate me for my views either. This is good. This gives us the privilege to converse down other avenues… some of

Re: [TruthTalk] Jewish Support of Hitler?

2003-04-06 Thread Slade Henson
06 April, 2003 18:12 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jewish Support of Hitler? No, I was wondering if you  or somebody else knew of this information and its source.  --Marlin - Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 0

Re: [TruthTalk] Practical Issues relative to House Churches

2003-08-01 Thread Slade Henson
The best organized experience I had was in a home church as well... in Wisconsin. We had a "facilitator" who helped keep us on track and who would study the passage before hand and have a number of small topics to discuss, but we all would take turns reading the passage aloud together (we fo

Re: [TruthTalk] Practical Issues relative to House Churches

2003-08-02 Thread Slade Henson
It probably offered a salary.   shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 01 August, 2003 21:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Practical Issues relative to House Churches [

Re: [TruthTalk] Practical Issues relative to House Churches

2003-08-03 Thread Slade Henson
Hi Izzy, Slade was the facilitator at that congregation. His official "title" was Ra'ah which means Shepherd. It's still up and running and growing as a matter of fact. He just oversees it now; someone else leads. Florida is very warm, but we have friends and family down here. We're attendin

[TruthTalk] Fw: A Call to the Federal Courts

2003-08-03 Thread Slade Henson
      A Call to the Federal Courts and the Supreme Court of the United States of America By Flip BenhamIf you are as sickened as we are by the infuriating and blaspheming decisions of the Supreme Court and are wondering what God fearing people can do -- Here it is! An Ecclesiastical Court wi

Re: [TruthTalk] Practical Issues relative to House Churches

2003-08-04 Thread Slade Henson
Laura... try 19 mos., 3.5 years, 5, 6, and 16 for a while. Wanna fly back down to Florida for a while? You'll wonder who acts the oldest... the 16-year-old teenager or the 3.5-year-old girl.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From:

[TruthTalk] Biggovernmentium

2003-08-14 Thread Slade Henson
That was hilarious!   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2003 11:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Noah - Today/fyi

[TruthTalk] Opinion Piece

2003-09-07 Thread Slade Henson
What do you all think of Paul Hill and his execution? Are you for his execution? Were you for his release? Do you think he's one of the Righteous Few? Do you think he's a murderer? shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Dare you to read this II!

2003-09-12 Thread Slade Henson
Shame, shame, shame There you Shabbat-haters go again, taking the passage out of context. We were to "stay in our place" on the Shabbat AS OPPOSED TO going out and collecting manna. Remember... we got a double portion THAT DIDN'T WORM on Shabbat. Read Leviticus 23... the Shabbat was the FIRST

Re: [TruthTalk] SOP

2003-09-19 Thread Slade Henson
Hypocrite. What about your interpretation of the 2nd Commandment?   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 September, 2003 22:16 Subject: [TruthTalk] SOP

Re: [TruthTalk] Tidbits

2003-09-19 Thread Slade Henson
That's the problem with Kabbalah. It makes "sense" of useless "facts." It feels like deep truth.   Also, Chris's use of Gamatria is wrong. The number of the beast is not 18.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [TruthTalk] SOP

2003-09-19 Thread Slade Henson
to have added the words to a previous post.   I ask Chris to forgive me for calling him a hypocrite on this thread.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalkin' 'bout Torah walkin'

2003-09-19 Thread Slade Henson
No debt is owed. At this point, there is no use in asking Chris to forgive. He's left the Spirit behind.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September, 2003 15

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalkin' 'bout Torah walkin'

2003-09-20 Thread Slade Henson
long distance after 7 PM for $17.95 per month. For those who are truly curious and want to call, I give you permission to say you are "Slade Henson" in order to "make sure I paid the full balance."   I find your lack of compassion and your demand for sustenance amazing. Torah sp

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-22 Thread Slade Henson
David... I am a follower and supporter of not only the 10 commandments of Ex20 but also the other 593 found throughout the Torah [that apply to me as a married man with children who works]. According to Scripture, these should be written on our hearts if we are seeking YHVH with all our hearts. Th

PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-23 Thread Slade Henson
I have and I will again. I just have a different theological outlook than you. May I suggest Mark Nanos's The Mystery of Romans and David Stern's Jewish New Testament Commentary?     shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terry Clift

Re: Reason for "Re: [TruthTalk] PROBABLE SPAM" in subject

2003-09-24 Thread Slade Henson
Yes. The owner of my ISP does that if certain parameters are met. I drives me crazy because I usually remember to edit the SUBJECT, but sometimes I forget.   I will answer Izzy and Bruce when I return from work this afternoon.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-25 Thread Slade Henson
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Woodford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2003 17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support Read Matthew 15:21-28. Ask yourself: who are the dogs? If you answer GENTILES, you are correct. No

PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-25 Thread Slade Henson
They both believe in the continuity of Revelation in that the New Testament does not erase or nullify the Older Testament.   shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 Septemb

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
That someone would be Slade. Why discuss finer points when someone doesn't understand basic doctrine?   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Judith H. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Th

Re: Reason for "Re: [TruthTalk] PROBABLE SPAM" in subject

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reason for "Re: [TruthTalk] PROBABLE SPAM" in subject Yes. The owner of my ISP does that if certain parameters are met. I drives me

Re: [TruthTalk] dogs being Gentiles

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 September, 2003 08:01Subject: [TruthTalk] dogs being GentilesMr Slade Sir:May I point out that things have changed slightly since the Gentiles were adopted into the family? I am always open to construc

Re: [TruthTalk] dogs being Gentiles

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
plain.  I can live with it.   Terry - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] dogs being Gentiles - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
unless you have 'another Jesus'   Judy    "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: That someone would be Slade. Why discuss finer points when someone doesn't understand basic doctrine?   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
I have merely attempted to reconcile the verses you quoted and the concept of "There is neither Jew nor Gentile... male nor female..." shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bruce Woodford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] dogs being Gentiles

2003-09-27 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you, Izzy, for placing the "Love Passage" in its context. You are first one I have seen do this since I learned that it is not [specifically] a passage about marriage. [I think that every Christian wedding I have been to has included this passage. shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-

Re: [TruthTalk] Yom Kippur: A picture of Jesus Returning

2003-09-27 Thread Slade Henson
I don't see any correlation between Yom Kippur and the Jewish wedding ceremony. I see a correlation between parts of Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) and the ancient wedding rite, though.) Did your congregation really do a Yom Kippur service, or did they do a Rosh Hashanah (Yom Teruah) service?

Re: [TruthTalk] Rosh HaShanah: A picture of Jesus Returning

2003-09-28 Thread Slade Henson
While I agree that the allusions to Messiah are probably correct, that is not the REAL meaning of Rosh Hashanah. The REAL meaning is found in the actual words of Scripture. Everything else (the spiritualization, remez, etc.) is speculation and an illustration of the Messiah. As I said before

Re: [TruthTalk] Ten Commandments Support

2003-09-29 Thread Slade Henson
> No such command was ever given to man (the race) at or after creation! You have no proof that a Shabbat rest was NOT implemented by the followers of YHVH before it was specifically given to Yisrael. Granted, there is no proof the other way either. See the fault of your argument? > It > is simpl

Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath

2003-09-30 Thread Slade Henson
Here's an article by a dear friend of ours, Dr. Daniel Botkin. Kay shalom e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Remember the Sabbath, to Keep It Holy?" or "Forget the Sabbath, and Call It Common?" A Parable One hot, summer day, my wife bought some delicious frozen yogurt. My three-year old daughter, wh

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-15 Thread Slade Henson
When I lived in Wisconsin, they merely rose their hand and swore. No Bible. No "So Help Me God." Also in Wisconsin, the option of "confirm" is for those who say they cannot "swear." shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Judith H. Taylor"

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5

2003-10-23 Thread Slade Henson
Your spiritualization of the text is interesting, but I find a more literal translation a bit more appealing, especially when we read the verse in question within its context. Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5

2003-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
A sword separates, does it not??? shalom e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2003 23:06 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5 > Slade wrote: > > Please note with

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5

2003-10-24 Thread Slade Henson
I would agree that there are in fact two group being represented here-The saved and the lost. I will also agree the the disciples were at first sent to the house of Israel-but to their rejection of Christ-salvation was offered to the gentiles. But forgive me for failing to see you point-Ple

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-25 Thread Slade Henson
I understand the doubt you may have regarding Moses' writing of the first five books of the Bible, however, Deuteronomy says he wrote the whole of the Torah and had it placed next to the Ark of the Covenant as a witness against the people of Yisrael. Jesus also called the Torah the Books of

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5

2003-10-27 Thread Slade Henson
Yeshua IS speaking of divergent groups in the passage: (1) for there is nothing covered, (2) that shall not be revealed (1) hid, (2)that shall... be known (1) What I tell you in darkness, (2) that speak ye in light (1) what ye hear in the ear, (2) that preach ye upon the housetops (1) fear not

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5

2003-10-27 Thread Slade Henson
--- Original Message - From: Carrolll Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2003 10:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bible 101.5       - Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/24/2003 9:15:07

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-27 Thread Slade Henson
I understand where you're coming from, Izzy. The Text tells us two things: we cannot have righteousness without faith, but the Text also says the commandments of God are our righteousness.   I love dichotomies like this because... frankly... there ARE no dichotomies if we practice proper herm

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-27 Thread Slade Henson
The first question I have in regards to the covering for women... is the command cultural? Weren't the Corinthians concerned about how one determines who is and who is not available for marriage? Were they not concerned with how one determines who is and who is not a prostitute in the Corint

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-31 Thread Slade Henson
Paul says, "Imitate me as I imitate Messiah." The two are sons of Israel.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2003 19:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-31 Thread Slade Henson
Izzy: I have an even more orthodox perspective which causes problems (doctrinally) between me and the average Christian. I see the whole of the commandments given to us by Moses as alive and well. There are some we cannot do because we lost the Temple because of our disobedience.   You said,

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-10-31 Thread Slade Henson
Dave says... > I have heard the Lord tell me to keep the Sabbath, and I do keep it. I > believe in keeping the Sabbath, but as Hebrews 4 teaches us, the true > Sabbath is what we ought to keep and not the traditions of men. Slade asks: What, in your opinion, is the True Sabbath? Is it the seventh

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-01 Thread Slade Henson
Upon these two commandments hang the whole of the Torah and the prophets... to me... does not mean "replace/supercede the whole of the Torah and the Prophets." I understand it as this is HOW we keep the two greatest commandments.   As far as the "six hundred and some odd rules..." have you co

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-01 Thread Slade Henson
so true. shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2003 18:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder Slade, You are correct in saying that doing

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-01 Thread Slade Henson
Grace and Peace, Judy       On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:57:10 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: so true. shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ShieldsFam

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-02 Thread Slade Henson
> Can you name even one person in scripture who was born a Gentile in the > flesh who is called by God "an Israelite" after conversion to Christ? If > you can, you will help me a lot on this because to date, I am unaware of any Joshua shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-03 Thread Slade Henson
I recanted and said, oops.. I mean Kalev his buddy who had to ASK for an inheritance in the Land because he was not native born. shalom e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bruce Woodford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 02

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-03 Thread Slade Henson
The point is that we are striving to keep the Sabbath holy. I encourage you to tell me where the use of a television remote, putting a toy away, or cooking a meal on Saturday is against the Law? Why do you and people like you attack the commandments in this way? Why do you try to show that the Wil

Re: [TruthTalk] Congratulations!

2003-11-03 Thread Slade Henson
This is girl number five for me. She was 20 inches long. There's a name, but we are tied to a useless tradition that keeps the name a secret until the naming ceremony (which is only used to help encourage people to show up to the service).   So Dave... are ya coming down?   By the way, thanks

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-03 Thread Slade Henson
It's my understanding that the Shabbat Rest in the Olam Haba will be COMPLETE because us imperfect humans [who are practicing and trying] will FINALLY be able to REST. Perfectly. In Him. shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Judith H. Tay

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
"Of the tribe of Judah, Caleb the son of Jephunneh." was not a native-born Israeli.   shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 04 November, 2003 08:23 Subject: RE: [TruthT

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
UNDER THE LAW = salvation through works UNDER GRACE = salvation through grace   Nowhere has anyone ever advocated salvation through works. You're arguing for argument's sake. Stop it.   shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: mich

Re: [TruthTalk] Congratulations!

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
Orthodoxy believe "Prayer, penitence, and good deeds avert the harsh decree." This is salvation through works. We do not advocate this position. shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
> Numbers 15 indicates that picking up sticks on Sabbath is punishable by > death. I don't see much difference between picking up sticks and > picking up a television remote or the kids toys. I don't know about > you, but around here, picking up the kids toys is work! :-) The man was in rebellio

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 05 November, 2003 16:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: UNDER THE LAW = salvation through works UNDER GRACE = salvation through grace  

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
Neither is the Godhead or the Apostles Creed, but they state a point. Also, I was responding to Michael who is using it to get everyone to throw away Torah like he does. shalom e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-05 Thread Slade Henson
The court of the Gentile was a Second Temple phenomenon that has NO basis in the mind of God. The Israelite who believed in God (for lack of a better term) was to treat the sojourner AS A NATIVE BORN. By creating the Court of Women and the Court of the Gentiles, they were violating this all-importa

Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder

2003-11-07 Thread Slade Henson
Joshua 14:6 shalom slade e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bruce Woodford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, 05 November, 2003 22:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Something To Ponder > Slade, > You wrote:"Of the tribe of Ju

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-08 Thread Slade Henson
- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 06 November, 2003 00:33 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping > Slade wrote: > > The man was in rebellion. It just so happened that > > he violated the Shabbat with a "hig

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-09 Thread Slade Henson
> Now please answer my question. According to Torah, is it right or wrong > to pick up sticks on Sabbath. Shouldn't we define work on the Sabbath > according to God's Word and not according to what we personally think is > ok or not? That's been my point... allow the Bible to define the subject.

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-09 Thread Slade Henson
I suggest you look again. shalom slade - Original Message - From: "Judith H. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hmmm! > This is interesting. Situational ethics Slade? > I don't see it practiced at all under the Old Covenant, although some > of those who have been stoned

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-09 Thread Slade Henson
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 09 November, 2003 20:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping   On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:24:57 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>"Gal 5:4 -- You are severed from Christ, you who would be justifie

Re: [TruthTalk] Grace and Law

2003-11-10 Thread Slade Henson
Your power tool midrash is interesting. Too bad it's based on false assumptions and false knowledge of the intent of the Law. shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 10 Nove

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-10 Thread Slade Henson
> Did Jesus say in Matt 22:37-40 "On these two (plus keeping > the Shabbat) hang all the law and the prophets? Why Not? You've missed the point. Read it again. On these two laws hang all the Law and the Prophets. Commandment #1: Love God Commandment #2: Love Neighbor. Every Law in the Torah and

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-10 Thread Slade Henson
> David Miller wrote: > >> Now please answer my question. According to Torah, is it > >> right or wrong to pick up sticks on Sabbath. Shouldn't > >> we define work on the Sabbath according to God's Word > >> and not according to what we personally think is ok or > >> not? > > Slade wrote: > > That

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
> I have never objected to moving the bar for a demanding situation. I > never objected to your point about saving someone's life up north > because it is cold. Good. I am glad to see we agree on this point. > Look, I can easily say, "thou shalt not kill." Killing a person is > wrong. Does tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
Attending synagogue does and does not keep the Shabbat. Jesus attended synagogue each and every Shabbat KJV: as was his custom). Doing no work "keeps" the Shabbat? Wrong. The heart keep or defiles the Shabbat. The commandments and the Spirit are intended as guides to help you figure out how

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
> I don't know about all that because love can not be commanded... > I don't know about all that because love can not be commanded... > I don't know about all that because love can not be commanded... > I don't know about all that because love can not be commanded... > I don't know about all that b

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2003 10:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions   On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:17:16 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Commandment #1: Love GodCommandment #2: Love Neighbor. Every Law in the To

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
e - without which > we are all just clanging brass and tinkling cymbals... > > Jesus said A NEW Commandment I give to you. Remember? > > Grace and Peace, > Judy > > > "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Did Jesus say in Matt 22:37-4

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
> I don't see any sabbath in the NT other than the sabbath rest  spoken of in Hebrews 4   Well, keep looking.   shalom   e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Judith H. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [TruthTalk] Seventh Day Sabbath Keeping

2003-11-12 Thread Slade Henson
Regarding jt's comment: Arn't things a little turned around here Slade? Are you making the Pharisees the good guys now and rewriting history? What about the Palestinian Talmud, the Babylonian Talmud, and the Mishnah? I've read that there are 6,000 minor laws written by the Rabbis to translate the

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-13 Thread Slade Henson
context   On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:31:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..If He broke the Sabbath as delineated by GOD Himself,

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-13 Thread Slade Henson
2003 11:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IOW...He didn't break the Sabbath, as He was SINLESS. Kay shalom   jt: Yes he did break the Sabbath and when confronted about it by the Jews he claimed to be Lord o

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-13 Thread Slade Henson
?   Grace and Peace, Judy   - Original Message - From: Judith H. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 November, 2003 11:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions From: "Slade Henson" <

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions

2003-11-15 Thread Slade Henson
: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't see any sabbath in the NT other than the sabbath rest  spoken of in Hebrews 4 Well, keep looking. shalom   Comment: I'm wasting my time Slade because it is not there a

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