RE: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

mber 10, 2018 8:15 PM To: TV or Not TV Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again But lighting a cross on the lawn of a white family is still pretty bad, even if it doesn't carry the weight of lighting the cross on the lawn of a black family. The Ku Klux Klan tried to scared migrant

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

I am saying a black guy whitening his face is not in the same category as a white guy blackening his face. They are two completely different things. I submit that if one does not understand that, one does not understand why blackface is a vile, hateful and racist phenomenon. On Sat, Nov 10,

RE: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko >Any thoughts on Dave Chapelle in white face? >LINK Exhibit 2: Eddie Murphy in “White Like Me” (SNL, 1984). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0 _ _ |_>|_>

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But lighting a cross on the lawn of a white family is still pretty bad, even if it doesn't carry the weight of lighting the cross on the lawn of a black family. The Ku Klux Klan tried to scared migrant coal miners in western Pennsylvania in the period immediately after World War I. They burned a

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

It’s not that it is not quantitatively equivalent. It is not qualitatively equivalent. The two have nothing substantive in common. Lighting a bag of dog poop on a white neighbors porch on Halloween might be obnoxious, even potentially dangerous, vandalism. It does not deserve to be even mentioned

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

Does it have to be equivalent to be offensive? On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 1:06 PM PGage wrote: > Not really - except that anyone who thinks this is in any way close to > equivalent to blackface has zero understanding of blackface. > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM Steve Timko wrote: > >>

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Not really - except that anyone who thinks this is in any way close to equivalent to blackface has zero understanding of blackface. On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM Steve Timko wrote: > Any thoughts on Dave Chapelle in white face? > LINK > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 1:59 PM Steve Timko wrote: > Any thoughts on Dave Chapelle in white face? > LINK > I lost all respect for Chapelle when he bailed on his hit series, leaving a lot of good people out of work. As such, I am predisposed to dislike anything he

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Any thoughts on Dave Chapelle in white face? LINK On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:09 AM PGage wrote: > As I wrote, some things are a matter of opinion. I think the term > “politically correct” is imprecise and loaded and unhelpful, but people do > vary in their

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With Megyn Kelly gone, ratings improve. LINK On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 3:59 PM Kevin M. wrote: > As a post-script to this, CBS couldn’t resist covering Kelly’s firing with > a surprisingly sophisticated look at

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As a post-script to this, CBS couldn’t resist covering Kelly’s firing with a surprisingly sophisticated look at the history of blackface https://youtu.be/pqlD-eZm1ck I remember the Bugs Bunny cartoon, but I didn’t know Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire (among others) wore the greasepaint. America

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

And the network makes it official... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/megyn-kelly-will-not-return-today-n924911 NBC News said Friday that anchor Megyn Kelly will not return to the 9 a.m. ET hour of "Today," marking the end of a rocky run since Kelly moved to NBC News from Fox News. "Megyn

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She may be replacing Sarah H Sanders by Easter... On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 2:26 PM Kevin M. wrote: > I could see her hosting Inside Edition or that sort of TMZ/tabloid type of > show. > > “Racist fired for being racist” is a ridiculous headline, but sadly it is > no longer career-ending > > On

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I could see her hosting Inside Edition or that sort of TMZ/tabloid type of show. “Racist fired for being racist” is a ridiculous headline, but sadly it is no longer career-ending On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 2:41 PM Steve Timko wrote: > She burned her bridges at FOX News. I don't see ABC, CBS or

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She burned her bridges at FOX News. I don't see ABC, CBS or CNN touching her. Maybe she's the new Deborah Norville, destined to roam the purgatory that is syndication? ⁣Not sent from an iPhone​ On Oct 25, 2018, 11:57 AM, at 11:57 AM, M-D November wrote: >And she...is...outta here...

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And she...is...outta here... https://apple.news/AgLseWXMoSISZcSGUKlTKag (Page 6 via Vanity Fair) Update (Oct. 25, 12:52 p.m.): Megyn Kelly Today is done, according to Page Six. According to the Daily Mail, the network will have to pay out the rest of Kelly’s reported $69 million contract. Her

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:25 AM PGage wrote: > I don’t think for a minute NBC News is fully woke to evils of blackface. > Obviously they have been looking for a way out of the MG business. Look for > her to claim this is retribution for her going after the Matt Lauer story. > > Honestly, before

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I don’t think for a minute NBC News is fully woke to evils of blackface. Obviously they have been looking for a way out of the MG business. Look for her to claim this is retribution for her going after the Matt Lauer story. Honestly, before this story broke into my twitter feed I had forgotten

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As I wrote, some things are a matter of opinion. I think the term “politically correct” is imprecise and loaded and unhelpful, but people do vary in their sensitivity to offense, and some are so sensitive they cause a burden for others. This is not that. Blackface is objectively racist. The

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I'm not sure when you mean "honestly say it was not racist." In my case, we did a school play when I was in fourth or fifth grade, maybe third (I was in the east wing of the school at the time) and it included a survey of entertainment. There was the obligatory reference to Al Jolson so they put a

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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:00 AM Kevin M. wrote: > I grew up around racists... no black face... not ever. > > I’ve stated over on my own social media that, growing up in my > neighborhood in Pomona, one could not be racist and have friends. My group > of friends never thought much about it. When

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

I grew up around racists... no black face... not ever. I’ve stated over on my own social media that, growing up in my neighborhood in Pomona, one could not be racist and have friends. My group of friends never thought much about it. When our respective moms told us to “go outside and play,” we

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If you are under 60 and at anytime in your life you can honestly say that it was not racist for white people to put on blackface when you were growing up, we know only one things for sure; you grew up around racists. Lots of things about race are complex and subject to POV. This is not one of

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From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko >I'm a decade older than Megyn Kelly. When I was a kid, black face was still >okay, although that was a reflection of a being in a rural mining town. I >called Brazil nuts nigger toes until I got

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I'm a decade older than Megyn Kelly. When I was a kid, black face was still okay, although that was a reflection of a being in a rural mining town. I called Brazil nuts nigger toes until I got into college. Of course I learned to be more culturally sensitive. That seems to be where Kelly is

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Patton Oswalt tweeted that same sentiment: https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1054759947114672129 On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:50 PM Kevin M. wrote: > How old is Kelly that, as a kid, black face was an acceptable form of > dress-up? I’m in my mid 40s... I’m almost certain Kelly is younger

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How old is Kelly that, as a kid, black face was an acceptable form of dress-up? I’m in my mid 40s... I’m almost certain Kelly is younger than I am, and at no point in my life was black face ever acceptable. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:33 AM Tom Wolper wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM

Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn Kelly steps in it again

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM Steve Timko wrote: > NBC lets her have it. Other networks ignore it. > > > https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/24/media/megyn-kelly-blackface-al-roker/index.html > As I get more of my news through Twitter I am following more journalists of color and feminist journalists