[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Matthew Ranney
Hey Alex, would you consider just giving everybody their money back if they aren't 100% satisfied? On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Alex Payne wrote: > > The main twitter.com site already uses the API in some places. Our > revised mobile site is built entirely on the API, and our Facebook > appl

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread PJB
Would be good if Twitter.com used API to determine, e.g., DM count on right-side. Right now it is woefully wrong if we delete DMs via API. On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Alex Payne wrote: > The main twitter.com site already uses the API in some places. Our > revised mobile site is built entirely on the A

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Haneda
I think the important part here is "in some places". The problem is, twitter.com probably has 75% or more of the exposure. The lowly app developer hits a bug in the API, and people say "wtf, works on twitter.com, this app sucks". Good to know that facebook and the mobile site are using

[twitter-dev] I can't change "following" of mobile option when viewing profile page

2009-09-15 Thread Tam
Hi, I work in corporate so I there firewall. Twitter works fine but when I view someone's page and try to follow them or change mobile notification options it doesn't work! I get the below messages in FireBug. I tried using IE, didn't work either. Firebug's log limit has been reached. %S entries

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Dean Collins
Hmmm so was does twitter.com work when the API is down.? How long exactly do you think twitter.com has been using the api for? -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Payne Sent: Tue

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Alex Payne
The main twitter.com site already uses the API in some places. Our revised mobile site is built entirely on the API, and our Facebook application has been built off our API for some time. Dogfooding! We support it. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 14:08, Jim Renkel wrote: > > I emphatically second and s

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Jim Renkel
I emphatically second and support the idea of twitter.com having to use the API. We had similar quality problems at a place I formerly worked, and they were solved, completely, when such a policy was instituted. Yeah, it puts pressure on the API team and may inconvenience the UI team, or whateve

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Haneda
Probably too late for this, but perhaps moving forward, it could be done... Twitter.com should move to using their own API. The tools they use to power their own site should be the same tools we use and rely on. In all reality, this seems a simpler approach, rather than pushing out code

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Haneda
Then maybe mark it in the docs as "highly experimental", this way, people do not build their business plans around something. Make it clear, this feature could go away at any time. On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Alex Payne wrote: Please understand that the denormalized lists are currently

[twitter-dev] Re: Paging STILL broken

2009-09-15 Thread Jesse Stay
Well done, Alex and team - thanks for getting this out so quick. This will solve many headaches! Jesse On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Alex Payne wrote: > > Just wanted to follow up on this thread. We've pushed out a change and > associated documentation that should allow for reliable, fast >

[twitter-dev] Re: Paging STILL broken

2009-09-15 Thread Alex Payne
Just wanted to follow up on this thread. We've pushed out a change and associated documentation that should allow for reliable, fast pagination through lists of denormalized IDs. Please kick the tires on the new "cursor"-based pagination: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-frie

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread PJB
Please also stop willy-nilly changing the error codes and error messages. Since your error messages are so often inaccurate, some of us have setup special rules to decipher what the errors actually are -- when you change the text or code, our rules break. For example, suspended users are/were g

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Alex Payne
We're planning on doing just that: communicating more, monitoring the API via a third-party service from a variety of locales, and providing better documentation. We've got more developer support hires lined up, and more. Thanks for the list of what you'd like to see, and thanks for bearing with

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread zippy_monster
On Sep 15, 11:04 am, Alex Payne wrote: > Please understand that the denormalized lists are currently provided > to developers on a best-effort basis. For the vast majority of Twitter > applications, this data isn't necessary. A specialized class of > applications need this data, and we're doing

[twitter-dev] Follow or Login from Twitter Widget returns 'This Method Requires a GET'

2009-09-15 Thread D Simone
You guys had a bug acknowledgement back in August (13-15) but you've removed it. The widget still malfunctions. I just downloaded it. Will you be fixing it? Suggest you remove the widget entirely if not. It's frustrating for developers to download software that doesn't work. http://74.125.95

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Haneda
I have not looked at this so this is mostly curiosity. Why use md5 on a moving target? Who knows when someone may resave an image to compress it more. I bet 1% compression savings translates to thousands of dollars over short time. Isn't the path relatively static? /images/default... M

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Waldron Faulkner
OK Alex, thanks for that insight. I'm trying hard to be patient, but I hope you can understand that this issue is strangling my new business. Also, I don't see anything in the documentation which differentiates these social graph calls from those rising above support on a "best- effort basis". I'

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Alex Payne
Waldron, We're looking into this issue, but it requires a great deal of coordination with the folks who work on our back-end infrastructure. When you ask for a list of denormalized IDs, that request spends very little time in "API code", and most of its time talking to a back-end system that my t

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread Alex Payne
Tim, We specify full URLs to images so that developers don't have to supply custom code to pull in profile images and background images. It sounds like you have a pretty unusual use case for our profile images. For what it's worth, I think we deployed six variations of those images, but our fron

[twitter-dev] Returned to show action

2009-09-15 Thread peter_tellgren
Dear all, I am struggling with a very annoying problem at the moment and come here in hope that you are able to help me. my dev env is: apache/passenger/rails2.2.2/mysql/twitter-gem (junemakers) I have a controller called social that have the following actions: index, create, finalize, destroy t

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter for Motorcycle Riders

2009-09-15 Thread mycroftt
Looks like a good opportunity for a niche twitter app. If I trusted the API a bit more I'd help you develop it. I'm sure there are several programmers thinking about it right now, once you exposed the idea.   Original Message Subject: [twitter-dev] Twitter for Motorcycle RidersFr

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread Nigel Cannings
You'll know, trust me, having just got done for posting too many hashtags We've been automatically tagging users' feeds, and posting the resulting hashtags centrally on @linkkytags - Until the middle of last night! So, unless begging works (which it hasn't so far), we'll be pursuing pla

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread Jesse Stay
I don't think it sounded hostile, and it sounded to me like he was proposing it be part of the API, which I agree. That would be pretty useful information, especially in a constantly changing environment. Jesse On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Adam Cloud wrote: > This is a pretty hostile worde

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread Jim Renkel
Factoid, FWIW: so far, I've found 7: http://s.twimg.com/a/1252980779/images/default_profile_x_normal.png where 0<=x<=6. Jim Renkel -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of timwhitlock Sent: Tuesda

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread Joseph Cheek
ok. i have an account that never shows up in search results or in track.xml. i thought that might be it, but i guess not. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com, www.cheek.com twitter: http://twitter.com/cheekdotcom John Kalucki wrote: > The account will be suspended. It won't work, and it won't be >

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread HardipSingh
Thanks for the prompt response John. This info helps a lot. Looks like we should be OK then, but we will keep an eye out to make sure none of our flagged as spammy. ~ H On Sep 15, 12:15 pm, John Kalucki wrote: > This is taken from the Twitter Rules, not the TOS, so this isn't > expressly agai

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread John Kalucki
The account will be suspended. It won't work, and it won't be visible. You can file a support ticket and contemplate your apparent or actual transgressions as you wait for them to sort out the account's fate. At first glance this may not seem fair, but the vast majority of accounts that are suspe

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread Joseph Cheek
out of curiosity, how can you tell if your account is flagged as spammy, and what can you do about it? Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com, www.cheek.com twitter: http://twitter.com/cheekdotcom John Kalucki wrote: > This is taken from the Twitter Rules, not the TOS, so this isn't > expressly against

[twitter-dev] Re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread John Kalucki
This is taken from the Twitter Rules, not the TOS, so this isn't expressly against the TOS. Rather, this is one guideline of many that Twitter may use to determine if an account is spammy. If job postings are otherwise good and useful, I wouldn't fret too much. But, I'd also expect that you just m

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread John Kalucki
Tim, Twitter deploys dozens of code branches each week, most of which probably contains at least a few user visible changes. The changelog is difficult enough to follow internally. Externally, it would be hopeless. Notifying on each and every change isn't a tractable problem. Although there is s

[twitter-dev] Re: Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Cloud
This is a pretty hostile worded email for someone who is asking for help for a problem that isn't necessarily directly related to the API. Just saying...

[twitter-dev] re: Changes to Twitter TOS/Rules.

2009-09-15 Thread HardipSingh
I am curious how the following rule impact those that are auto- tweeting job links to #jobs and the other twitter job boards. * If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates; Does this mean that we are in violation of this rule if I have an account that is primarily responsi

[twitter-dev] Twitter for Motorcycle Riders

2009-09-15 Thread Thomas Hirschmann
Hi there. I am a motorcycle freak and would like to know if there is a possibility to use twitter to improve motorcycle riding, e.g. Ø finding out where the police is hiding to catch you for speeding Ø finding out about the best motorcycle streets / routes Ø finding out about the best

[twitter-dev] Default profile pics

2009-09-15 Thread timwhitlock
I notice today that Twitter has created a new default profile pic; e.g: http://s.twimg.com/a/1252980779/images/default_profile_1_normal.png Great. That's broken some of my algorithms on Twitblock.org. (identifying re-used images) I can fix that. I'll just add the new MD5 to my app config. But, w

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread mycroftt
I am only one person with too many irons in the fire. During the month or so that I spent actively working on the Twitter API project I had to go back and change parts my code more than once, not because of my errors (plenty of those but not the subject of this communication), but because of chang

[twitter-dev] Re: Source parameter only available through oauth - misses a use case

2009-09-15 Thread twittme_mobi
Ok, but againplease make OAuth pages at twitter mobile friendly so that the mobile web sites can use it! On Sep 15, 11:28 am, Duane Roelands wrote: > It's an incentive to move to OAuth. > > Twitter has made their intentions clear about Basic Auth: They want it > to go away.  By restricting t

[twitter-dev] Re: Source parameter only available through oauth - misses a use case

2009-09-15 Thread Duane Roelands
It's an incentive to move to OAuth. Twitter has made their intentions clear about Basic Auth: They want it to go away. By restricting the "source" parameter to OAuth requests, they give developers an incentive to move forward. On Sep 15, 4:20 am, Emrah wrote: > I totally agree... Ivo, I got t

[twitter-dev] Re: Source parameter only available through oauth - misses a use case

2009-09-15 Thread Emrah
I totally agree... Ivo, I got the same answers for a pretty similar question some months ago... I do not see the link between the source parameter and how the authentication is made... Cheers! Ivo wrote: > Hi, > > short answer: oauth is for delegated authentication; I'm using direct > authentica

[twitter-dev] Re: empty data + no error returned from friends/ids

2009-09-15 Thread Waldron Faulkner
Hello, Raffi, This is not the non-json response issue. This is open, accepted, high priority issue #1019. Be the hero that fixes this for us, it's breaking my back. Ryan and Alex aren't helping me out, maybe you can be THE MAN! Please fix this, PLEASE! On Sep 14, 6:36 pm, Raffi Krikorian wrote

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Waldron Faulkner
Ryan, please look no further than existing, accepted issues in the issues list for examples as to how this platform is not yet ready. One of your primary API calls, followers/ids (and friends/ids) is broken, and has been for more than a week now. Since paging is not working, and un-paged requests

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread Ryan Sarver
WyoKnott, Thanks for your email. We really appreciate the candid feedback and definitely is not something we want to see happening. I would like to hear more about what you mean by "not stable enough" and what specific issues we can work on that would get you to consider Twitter a platform worthy