K.2
CALL STACK.1
RETURN
STACK.WRAP
CRT @(-1)
CALL STACK.2
And here's the results:
||
3ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.1ý0x6
2ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.2ý0x0
1ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.WRAPý0xe
|----|
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Richard Lewis
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geor
We have been using a SOAP interface on 10.2 or 10.3 (I forget now which)
and are now on 11.1. We have also successfully used curl to from within UV
to interact with a web service on 11.1, on linux.
Richard Lewis
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Oaks, Harold wrote:
>
> I have been tell
ault
domains to use/try, etc.
Best Regards,
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Bill Brutzman wrote:
> 1. I just downloaded the latest Oct2013.
> 2. As with the earlier BDT release... each time I press a key... it takes
> two seconds to appear on the screen.
> 3. M
We're on linux.
Richard Lewis
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Oaks, Harold wrote:
> Hi Rudy:
>
> We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to.
> (Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.)
>
> We need to in
as able to spend a little time
making various invalid requests to see in detail what error conditions
would look like, and document that as well. And the curl implementation
took about 1/10 as many lines of code.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
Sincerely Best Regards,
Richard Lewis
IBM Certifi
Tried that already, but thanks for the suggestion. By the way, the curl
solution doesn't require that header to get a successful response.
Richard Lewis
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Rick Nuckolls wrote:
> If you have not done so yet, try adding the header for Content-Type before
Dan,
Where would I find documentation on the 'UDO functions'?
Thanks!
Richard Lewis
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Daniel McGrath wrote:
> We haven't built 11.23 yet. 11.2 is the next one about to come out :)
>
> As others have mentioned, U2 Basic supports HTT
ually that complete
and exact. I have never had the impression that it was.
I would love to be able to do it all in uv, but I only have control over
half of the conversation, and with the uv functions, I seem to have a bit
less than half.
Richard
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Symeon Breen wrot
failed
it. I switched to using curl, and it all worked perfectly.
Richard Lewis
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Oaks, Harold wrote:
> I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can
> implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2)
> But, fin
After glancing over the posting to which you linked, at the bottom I find:
To be considered for this role, please visit our website by clicking here
(Insert hyperlink to www.iqor.com under "here"), click the "CAREERS" tab at
the top of the page à United States à Universe Software Developer (New
Yo
Yes, because (at least on UV) it actually writes a temporary record to the
dictionary to perform the EVAL expression.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
> Are you implying that it somehow reads the permissions of the dictionary
> before allowing the use of EVAL?
>
>
__
To further complicate things, I was instructed at one job to use the IF VAR
THEN syntax as this was treated a boolean operation and executed faster than IF
VAR # ''. We were working on Prime Information at the time. A few years later
I went to work for a VAR. I had made changes to the their p
Do you need to recatalog?
Rich Sammartino
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Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:25:33 AM
Subject: [U2] I Type Fields in Universe
It's been a while since I messed with these things so I need to ask.
The I type in ques
I believe that was Informix rather than Informatics.
Richard Lewis
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM.
>
> I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this)
>
How about:
SELECT fname WITH MPAR.STATUS.DATE CONV "" = "[/]"
Since you seem to know exactly the kind of erroneous data you want to find.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Greg Coelho wrote:
> All,
>
> Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date
> has been written
Congratulations Wally! You can remain on the list as a lurker.
Rich
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:03:59 PM
Subject: [U2] Wally Terhune
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement. Thanks for all the support you
have give
hat's the VOC entry for D_INVOICE look like?
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suggest a
resolution. Thanks in advance.
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In Unidata you could use the LOCKED clause followed by GETUSERNAME(STATUS()).
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Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:55:03 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] User ID of a LOCKED record
Thanks for all of the
Mine is on HP-UX B.11.31.
Richard
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Rick Nuckolls wrote:
> If not flavor, then hardware/os?
>
> (Sparc/Solaris)
>
> -Rick
>
> On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Charles Stevenson wrote:
>
> >
> > On my UV10.2.10 it behaves prop
Or maybe it's my Pick flavor.
Richard Lewis
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Rick Nuckolls wrote:
> Hmmm,
>
> That must be a change at UV 11. 10.2.x still produces 2 digit months and
> days without the extra 2’s.
>
> -Rick
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:21 PM,
how many characters to display, and the
empty quotes specify the 'text' with which to separate the elements.
There's about 80 lines that describe it when you do HELP CONV D at TCL.
Richard Lewis
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Rick Nuckolls wrote:
> Or, a bit more simply:
&
The case statement can be faster if you put the condition with the most
occurrences first. As soon as the 'true' condition is met, the program exits
the case statement. The if-then-else construct took longer to evaluate. When
processors were slow, there were gains to be had
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Don, I don't know about Universe but Unidata has the INPUT - FOR statement to
do this. It looks like this... INPUT VAR,5_: FOR 1200 ELSE IF
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE = -1 THEN VAR = '*'. It waits at the input prompt for 30
minutes, the @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is set to -1 to indicate a time out condition.
it
is still running 10.3.2.
Our sys admin isn't here at the moment, but didn't report any extra
difficulties or delays compared to any previous upgrades.
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Oaks, Harold wrote:
> All:
>
> Who has upgraded Universe 10.2 to
s and subroutines?
John
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> are not programming in ED on telnet (or
> ssh) and that they are using some form of
> GUI editor.
With respect, I disagree. I work alongside dozens of UniVerse developers and I
am in a very small minority who use
appear
like it will work for me.
If I have missed something, let me know.
John
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S
Vbs Scripts
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I think that code started out in Either Bellevue or Denver right?
any calls
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have: (514) 654-6011 (North American formatted phone)
However I am getting:
514) 354-6011
514) 354-6011
Any idea why ?
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We ran Unidata on Solaris. Try checking /etc/passwd. This is where the login
account was stored on our configuration.
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wondering if it
is still around, or what skill sets there are around to work on it.
Thanks
Symeon.
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Have you looked at SORT.TYPE?
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:52:12 PM
Subject: [U2] Unidata 7.1.20 Pick Flavor & Selecting Multi-Values
I'm am trying to help out my users by helping them make sense of what
What if you were writing to an empty file?
Rich
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:30:08 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] LIST.READU EVERY's "waiters" when there are writes w/o
explicit readu.
Now why would anybody wa
. I hope.
Environment is UniData 6.1 on a Windows server. Comments anyone?
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I understand matrix operations well enough to use them frequently, and
in light of this discussion, the following question popped into my
mind:
Is there any difference between:
X = OCONV(X,'MCU')
and:
X = OCONVS(X,'MCU')
Has anyone experienced the results being differen
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Someone posted a program to do this a couple of years ago. I can post my
version if needed.
Rich
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in a new environment
The question is, what would be the best, most efficient way
to access that sql data.
I have searched the web for a couple of hours and most all related
articles are connecting to Universe.
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Phil, maybe you should try @USER.RETURN.CODE. I don't know if you can control
the values in @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE.
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I have worked with Larry and Software Search for 20+ years. He is active in
the AAPUG group in Atlanta. A good guy and company to work with.
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To:
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [U
index.
Make sure the file is not opened by anyone during the indexing otherwise your
indexes could be corrupted.
Rich
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The Atlanta Area Pick Users Group still holds regular meetings
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Subject: [U2] : Users Groups
I only know of two users groups which still hold meetings. The one in
Texas and the one in Seattle.
Does anyone know
One solution is
MAXV = DCOUNT(FXI,@VM)
FOR I = MAXV TO 1 STEP -1
IF FXI<1,I> = '' THEN
DEL FXI<1,I>
NEXT I
This handles embedded nulls as well as leading and trailing nulls. This would
also give you a value if there are associated fields that would need to be
r
Garry,
Since you described a simple situation, I'll provide a simple solution.
FXI = 1ýý
DCOUNT(TRIM(FXI,@VM),@VM) should return 1.
Best Regards,
Richard Lewis
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Garry Smith wrote:
> FXI = 1ýý
>
> DCount(FXI,VM) returns 3
> Is there func
Jeff, you may need to have exclusive access to the file for the index to build
properly. If a user has the file open, the index portion is open as well. We
has problems with indexes being corrupted when we build index with out being
the sole user of the file.
Rich
Richard Sammartino
Systems
sk as
cheap as it is these days, it's a very easy solution, once you know.
Richard Lewis
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Allen Egerton wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> That's a nice simple solution, I'd just add don't forget to right
> justify the @ID Dict item in t
iate prviileges to create the
sub-directory in the &SAVEDLISTS& directory.
You could resize the &SAVEDLISTS& file as a Type 19, or fix the owner &/or
group of &SAVEDLISTS&, or just turn STACK.WRITE off.
Without looking, that's what I would guess.
Best Regards,
Ri
ssage-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [U2] UV 11.1 and HP Itanium
>
> And what version of UV are you runnin
And what version of UV are you running?
Richard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Bill Brutzman wrote:
> We are running HP-Ux 11i v2 Itanium.
>
> We have not had any memory issues at all.
>
> --Bill
>
> -Original Message-
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Our sysadmin would like me to ask:
How many out there are running UV 11.1 on Itanium?
Have any of you on UV 11.1 on Itanium had any issues with shared memory?
Thanks!
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it for at least 15 years.
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:09 PM, wrote:
> Years ago I had written a system, far predating XML, where the element-tags
> were unpredictable. Essentially the user was allowed to create any tags
> they wished, and any number of tags
Thanks very much for this. I feel better armed now.
Best regards,
Richard
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To: Richard Conway , U2 Users List
Sent: Wednesday Wednesday 10 November 2010 15:17:14
Subject: [U2] Upgrading and Migrating from Unix to Windows
I have converted a
Thanks for this. Unidata for Windows does come with some
transitioning/migration tools which check for path errors and problems caused
by the loss of case-sensitivity, and so on.
Many thanks,
Richard
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Sent
call to a Unix function that will fail, but I'm not sure about
generally how interoperable the two environments are.
Has anyone tried anything like this? If so, what are the most likely/obvious
pitfalls?
Richard
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From: Glorfield, Gordon
To: "'U2 U
What are the file size restrictions with PE? Is there a comprehensive list of
the restrictions present in PE anywhere that I can read/download?
Richard
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To: "Richard Conway" , "U2 Users List"
Sent: Monday Monday 08 No
Irix to Unidata 7 on Linux, then on to Unidata 7 on Windows? Or
would a single jump upgrade actually work, with the help of vocupgrade and
PATHSUB?
Richard
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Is the path set correctly, so that the application can be seen from the cmd
or EXECUTEd environment?
Best Regards,
Richard Lewis
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Don P. Nagai wrote:
> Thank you for all the suggestions. I do appreciate them.
>
> I've tried the "cmd.exe
Oh, I forgot to mention that we are on UV 10.3.2, HP-UX B.11.23 U.
Thanks!
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se them as listing
criteria as follows:
a.LIST indexfile WITH @ID = “dup_id1]””dup_id2]” (etc.) F1 F2
Building a program to perform these tasks will be one of our next immediate
steps. Any further suggestions or comments are most welcome!
Sincerely Best Regards,
Richard
On Fri, Oct 1, 20
Look for a space or non printing character in the data. That would make it
look the same but actually be unique.
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To:
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:47 PM
Subject: [U2] UV index with duplicate nodes
We've just unc
2345-6789 765432 543219
12345 654321
We are having our UniVerse administrator ask our dealer for assistance, but
were interested if any other users have had any recent similar experiences,
or advice.
Sincerely Best Regards,
Richard Lewis
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Try:
LIST FILE1 EVAL "TRANS(FILE2,@RECORD<1,DCOUNT(@RECORD<1>,@VM)>,'12','X')"
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM, James Patrick Volkman <
jamesvolk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm attempting to do a translate and was wonderin
his will strip out all the non-alphanumeric characters.
You could then easily access by Part Number no matter how many dashes, dots,
etc. were entered on either system, via the index.
Best Regards,
Richard Lewis
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM, John J. Wahl wrote:
>
>
EXECUTE "DOS /c":CMD CAPTURING TRASH
Cheers,
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statement. Here's a post that used that method:
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Bill Haskett wrote:
>
> I have a UD dictionary that calls a subroutine. The subroutine s
I don't have a system to check this on but how about
0001: I
0002: OCONV(FIELD(@ID,'_',2),'D2.')
0003:
0004: DATE
0005: 8R
0006: S
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Subject: [U2] I Descriptor for long filename in type 1 file
The BASIC ENCODE function does this. See a current BasicRef.pdf
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On May 5, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Victor Henderson wrote:
You could always cheat and just call a perl
script...(http://search.cpan.org/~gaas/MIME-Base64-Perl-1.00/lib/MIME/Base64/Perl.pm
)
Victor H.
On Tu
the shadow
account.
The UVNET version of the rpc mechanism does not have the same problem
closing dynamic files as UniObjects.
-Rick
On Apr 30, 2009, at 3:43 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote:
Thanks for the info Rick.B I'll give it a look.
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If, by chance, you are using UniObjects, there is a bug in it, fixed
at 10.2.22, that can cause this problem when a session times out or
otherwise exits in a less than optimal manner.
I think that a corrupt file or index can also cause this problem
Alternately, you might check to see if ther
I have not used Ubuntu, but try optioning Java with "-
Dfile.encoding=iso8859-1"
If you are were tomcat, this would go in the CATALINA_OPTS environment
variable. (setenv.sh)
-Rick
On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Jeff Powell wrote:
The LANG variable issue takes a new twist with Ubuntu Server
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EXECUTE 'SSELECT FILENAME WITH @ID LIKE WHATEVER
EXECUTE 'SAVE.LIST LISTNAME'
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Richard
Kevin,
It sounds as though the server is seeing the disconnects, but the client is
not getting the response back to recognize that it is truly disconnected.
Therefore the object is waiting on a response. I am not sure if the
driver is thread safe, but I would not count on it.
I might suggest p
I assume that the SUB.LOCKED.SOH.RO is called to do the lock and then
returns.
The problem is that you open the file in this routine to do the locking
against. Once this subroutine ends that file handle will go out of scope
(it was defined local to this subroutine) and the file is closed. That
r
Are the file systems truly identical, or are you using symbolic links
to make them look the same?
Use SET.INDEX filename INFORM
to see where your index is really pointing.
-Rick
On Apr 22, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Louie Bergsagel wrote:
We use flashcopy to move data from one computer to another, a
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03/27/2008.
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Try taking the mod of the calculation against 2**31 or 2**32. I have
not tested this, but most of the other algorithms just toss any
overflow of a 32 bit accumulator.
Rick Nuckolls
Lynden Inc.
ie:
EQU TWO32 TO 4294967296
...
GROUP = MOD(GROUP*10 + SEQ(ID[NC, 1]), TWO32)
On Feb 13, 2008,
then
execute the RECORD command against this file with whatever aid you choose to
use. I can't speak for the overhead in executing this command repeatedly.
Rich Sammartino
Richard Sammartino
Systems Analyst
School District of Philadelphia
440 N Broad Street
Philadelphia, Pa 19130
Phone:
I would guess that the result of autologout on Unix or Linux may
depend on how Universe was invoked.
If it was invoked from a Unix shell, such as ksh, as a command then
autologout probably just exits Universe, leaving the user back in the
shell.
On the other hand, if the original .profile
Okay, but do you reset the routine name before each call? This
should not be necessary, but I think that that is what the error
message is implying is wrong.
-Rick Nuckolls
On Feb 2, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
And all the arguments are assigned in my VB app before I cal
indicates that you are
including the current directory.
See
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/win32/classpath.html
for a write up.
-Rick
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Richard Nuckolls
Lynden, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am checking out Uniobjects for Java and am
0) to
turn it off. I also found some code that used at one time CHAR(27):"d%" and
CHAR(27):"d#". I hope this helps.
Rich
Richard Sammartino
Systems Analyst
School District of Philadelphia
440 N Broad Street
Philadelphia, Pa 19130
Phone: (215) 400-5086
Fax: (215) 400-4411
This is a known bug in 10.2.x
The solution is to get the 10.2.0 version of the usa/usm/usp binary.
-Rick
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Richard Nuckolls
Lynden Inc.
On Jan 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Kevin King wrote:
I'm assisting with getting UV10.2 up on a SuSE 10.1 box, and there's a
couple
Check the &PH& file.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Chanco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] testing
A wonderous and happy holidays to all!
If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do h
I cannot say that it is on the front page, but I had no trouble
finding it in menus at the Products>Software>Software by Catagory>
Data & Database Management Tools Page. :-D
-Rick Nuckolls
Lynden Inc
On Dec 20, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Martin Phillips wrote:
Hopefully nothing sinister here but ha
I have seen this happen when a file gets an inconsistent state flag
set. Are you doing Transaction Logging?
Try
RECOVERY.CONSISTENT pathname
to reset the flag.
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Richard Nuckolls
Lynden Inc.
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On Nov 30, 2007, at 12:46 AM, Dave R wrote:
My inventory file
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re SAN's and Universe:
DELETE.FILE and RESIZE.FILE will not work on dynamic files that are
NFS mounted. (Universe keeps the DATA.30 file open while trying to
delete the enclosing directory. This will fail on an nfs mounted
directory.) Override the VOC entry with your own version.
Do not
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