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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 2:52 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 2:52 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Hi Eric:
At the U2 University meeting in 2009, one FAST user told me they paid
$40,000.00. Yes, that is 40k for FAST. The pricing was based
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Hi Eric:
At the U2 University meeting in 2009, one FAST user told me they paid
$40,000.00. Yes, that is 40k for FAST. The pricing was based
In the book American Caesar - Douglas MacArthur, the author Wm Manchester
makes the point that... arrogance is a good thing.
The last thing that a soldier needs in a battle is a wall-flower general.
Likewise, the more awesome U2 weaponry and ammo that a programmer has... the
better.
--Bill
The minute the U2 listserver makes the term battle come to mind, is the
minute I un-subscribe.
Bill Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com 10/7/2011 8:31 AM
In the book American Caesar - Douglas MacArthur, the author Wm Manchester
makes the point that... arrogance is a good thing.
The last thing
I guess that it is good then that I did not mention... General Patton... oops.
--B
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter
The minute the U2 listserver makes the term battle come to mind, is
software
vendor highly recommends it too.
Dave S.
From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
I've also attempted to stay out
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Date: 10/07/2011 11:26 AM
Subject:Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
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IMHO this is overkill.
I have used FAST in the past. Then stopped using it for a few years. We
manually
This seems like a good time to declare END OF THREAD.
Charles Barouch
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Barouch
Sent: 07 October 2011 17:42
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Subject: Re: [U2] FAST
This seems like a good
From:Robert Porter
The minute the U2 listserver makes the term battle come to
mind, is the minute I un-subscribe.
Reminds me that when Jon Sisk wrote documentation for Pick
Systems he described the i option of the startspooler verb as
This is the last resort in Spooler warfare. Sometime in
SUCH A TASKMASTER :-)
Charles Barouch wrote:
This seems like a good time to declare END OF THREAD.
Charles Barouch
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On 05/10/11 23:03, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
If Eric or anyone else has specific questions about FAST we will be happy to
answer them, either here if the moderators think that is appropriate or via
private email. We won't get into mudslinging or trying to tear down any
other product or person.
My experience is a couple years old. FAST is a solid tool. Shoes for
the cobbler's children. Automates IT. What a concept.
But I added my own history component to FAST so I could see file trends
over time.
This trending history helped me take a system that was always crying for
more
I think that is a wonderful idea, Charles. I will be adding trending
analysis to our next major release XLr8Resizer. It will be graphical using
the built in report writer called BIRT that is a Eclipse plug-in.
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Charles Stevenson
Thanks all for weighing in on FAST and file sizing.
Charles, I AM listening and I hear your interesting suggestions about
trending. Most of the improvements to FAST over the years have come
directly from user experiences and requests. No promises but we will
brainstorm this with a view to
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fitzgerald
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:44 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Thanks all for weighing in on FAST and file sizing.
Charles, I AM listening and I hear your interesting suggestions about
Jeff:
Bullet point 6 on my XLr8Resizer response, using the native tools gives us a
lot of information about each file. We still do other analysis based on the
file particulars as well as the user can input certain variables to adjust
the calculation. Or for those of us who don't like either of
give you a pretty good idea of the 'shape' of the data
Regards
Mike
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org On Behalf Of David Wolverton
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011 8:29 a.m.
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
What about
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 2:52 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Hi Eric:
At the U2 University meeting in 2009, one FAST user told me they paid
$40,000.00. Yes, that is 40k for FAST
Following a HASH.HELP and then a RESIZE on a number of files... it is likely
that a bigger disk drive will be needed.
--Bill
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File
mind.
So what would I be looking for to show that the files are actually not very
efficient?
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From: Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing
In response to Doug's negative comments (because I feel compelled)...
FAST can use all the backend scripting features of any *nix system,
so it is not reliant on the VBA client.
Anyone in their right mind running Oracle, runs it on Linux or Solaris
or something of the like on the backend.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
In response to Doug's negative comments (because I feel compelled)...
FAST can use all the backend scripting features of any *nix system,
so it is not reliant on the VBA client
P.S.
Is anyone using XLr8Resizer from U2 Logic? If so, what are your experiences
with it?
Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
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RATEX Business Solutions
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:51 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis
P.S. to P.S.
Has anyone done a comparison of FAST to XLr8Resizer (other than cost?)
Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
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Long, Inc.
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:41:03 -0700
From: Eric Armstrong earmstr...@lobelfinancial.com
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Would anyone who is using FAST (File Analysis
Of John Thompson
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
To Wjohnson:
I've had multiple folks tell me from my U2 var, and from FitzLong.
A properly sized static hashed file will always perform better than a
properly sized
XLr8Resizer responds:
1. I resize any account(s) without loading software onto the U2
database.
2. I can resize more multiple accounts from the same Eclipse IDE session.
3. I can resize Unidata and Universe from the same Eclipse IDE session.
4. I get updates every 3 or 4 weeks
Would anyone who is using FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool) care to comment
about it? Experiences with it, plus and minuses? Does it deliver as advertised?
Thanks in advance,
Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
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From:
I've been using FAST pretty much since it has existed and I highly
recommend it for anyone using U2 databases. Also the folks at Fitzgerald
and Long are fantastic people whom I have known since the Prime
Information days.
Eric Armstrong wrote:
Would anyone who is using FAST (File Analysis
Eric, we use FAST to resize over 100 accounts a month, and it works very
well for us. It is certainly a lot quicker and easier than manually
calculating the proper sizes for over 400 files/account and doing the
memresizes!
Susan Lynch
F. W. Davison Company, Inc.
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: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:57:36 -0600
From: jscha...@gmail.com
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
I've been using FAST pretty much since it has existed and I highly
recommend it for anyone using U2 databases. Also the folks at Fitzgerald
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Eric Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:41 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Would anyone who is using FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool) care
Why not just make all your files dynamic
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Its amazing.
In short...
You can schedule proper sizing of all your files in cron (if you have a *nix
machine) and let it do its work. I use it once a week on Sunday nights.
Its wonderful.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been using FAST pretty
Great tool. Great support too.
From: Eric Armstrong earmstr...@lobelfinancial.com
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Would anyone who is using
Thanks for everyone's responses.
Regarding dynamic files, my understanding is that even they need resizing from
time to time. Is that not correct?
Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
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] On Behalf Of Eric Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:47 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Thanks for everyone's responses.
Regarding dynamic files, my understanding is that even they need resizing from
time to time
earmstr...@lobelfinancial.com
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: 10/04/2011 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
Thanks for everyone's responses.
Regarding dynamic files, my understanding is that even they need resizing
from time to time. Is that not correct
MINIMUM.MODULUS can be your friend...
On 10/4/2011 7:27 PM, Susan Lynch wrote:
Eric, yes, in my experience, they do need resizing, particularly if they
are very large files, which are the only ones I generally make dynamic.
We have had issues with small dynamic files getting cleared by one
Especially when mass loading a big but empty file!
John Israel
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:
MINIMUM.MODULUS can be your friend...
On 10/4/2011 7:27 PM, Susan Lynch wrote:
Eric, yes, in my experience, they do need resizing,
sized static file, which brings us back to the original subject: use a tool
like FAST, and maintain your files, whether static or dynamic.
From: johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:52:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis
Hi Eric:
At the U2 University meeting in 2009, one FAST user told me they paid
$40,000.00. Yes, that is 40k for FAST. The pricing was based on the number
of users the had on their machine. Obviously, they had a lot of users.
In today's world if you are paying Oracle pricing for this tool from
would I be looking for to show that the files are actually not very
efficient?
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From: Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
My issue
Susan,
We are on an AIX platform and we used NFS / CP to move from an IBM F50
to F80 recently. Additionally I use a CRON with find -mtime - 24 and cp
to copy anything that has changed in the last 24 hours so that old F50
becomes a standby system. This usually copies within 3 hours over a
100baseT
rsync is your friend! Put a copy of this on both systems and then run
something similar to this.
echo --- Processing APS ---
/usr/local/bin/rsync -avzrpog --stats /dbms/APS [EMAIL PROTECTED]::dbms
--password-file
=/root/reston
Makes a copy of the CHANGED files from one system to another at the
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:45 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Fast file transfers
Greetings,
Anyone come up with a really clever way to move a great deal of data
from
one machine to another (completely different Multivalue Platforms; jbase
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Universe) all within the space
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Subject
[U2] Fast file transfers
Greetings,
Anyone come up with a really clever way to move a great deal of data from
one machine to another (completely different Multivalue Platforms; jbase
-
Universe) all within the space of a weekend?
We've tried
Susan,
You didn't mention what operating systems you were dealing with, but I had
a similar situation with Unix and found the following to be quite
effective:
1. tar the data into a single tar archive file
2. gzip the archive file (I got 6:1 compression ratio on top of the tar
compression)
3.
Greetings,
Anyone come up with a really clever way to move a great deal of data from
one machine to another (completely different Multivalue Platforms; jbase -
Universe) all within the space of a weekend?
We've tried some of the telnet programs that have multivalue specific file
transfers ...
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Subject: [U2] Fast file transfers
..
Anyone come up with a really clever way to move a great deal of data from
one machine to another (completely different Multivalue Platforms; jbase -
Universe) all within the space of a weekend?
..
Cheers and TIA,
Susan
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Question is,
What is the underlying platform? Unix? Linux?
If Unixwhy not a straight copy script?
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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:45 AM
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Subject: [U2
Universe also has bulk data move
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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:45 AM
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Subject: [U2] Fast file transfers
Greetings,
Anyone come up with a really clever way
: Monday, December 26, 2005 5:45 AM
Subject: [U2] Fast file transfers
Greetings,
Anyone come up with a really clever way to move a great deal of data from
one machine to another (completely different Multivalue Platforms;
jbase -
Universe) all within the space of a weekend?
We've tried some
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