Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will, I'd suggest at third criteria: It needs to not break what we already have in Post Nuke. -- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >The main objection was to not have information spread around in different areas that >required different ways to view it. And sec

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-26 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/26/2004 2:16:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A couple of other posts recommend I look at the feasibility of the m2f > stuff, however obviously it is really up to the u2ug Board who will be > taking over the list, what technology they want to use etc.

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-26 Thread Hogan, James
Kevin (u2ug Board Member) posted this on the u2ug web site: "When I do read u2-users it is though gmane.org (http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.u2.general/), so I know that there are a number of different ways to skin each cat. The reason I use Gmane is that I don't have time each day to wade thr

RE: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread Wendy Smoak
> I'm a show-me kind-of-guy, so name the forum or post a link > so we can all see that it works that way :) > Will I did give the name, did you read the entire message? If you want to see it in action you'll have to install the trial version that David Scoggins posted a link to. Given the cost

Re: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/23/2004 11:32:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > > seen such an > > animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. > > Will > > It is not mythical, one of the forums I use works exactly >

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will, I'm always happy to nominate someone else to do work. :) I second Will's motion. - Charles "Where There's a Will..." Barouch -- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:46:44 -0400 From: [EM

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/23/2004 4:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So will the U2 user group, like to look at this solution? This would give us > both a web and mail list presence and would make ALL of us happy. It will > also show that this community is happy to embrace n

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/23/2004 4:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So will the U2 user group, like to look at this solution? This would give us > both a web and mail list presence and would make ALL of us happy. It will > also show that this community is happy to embrace n

RE: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread David Scoggins
> -Original Message- > From: Wendy Smoak > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:33 AM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: OT RE: We need a web based Forum! > > > I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > > seen such an animal in action

OT RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread Wendy Smoak
> I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > seen such an > animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. > Will It is not mythical, one of the forums I use works exactly like that. You do have to be set up as a user and "subscribe" to the forums you want to read. But afte

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread David Beahm
Branching from your idea: Funny thing, last week two of us were discussing what a terrible job our company's spam/virus filter was doing, and concluded it's exactly the kind of thing MV does best, if only there was a true email interface. On top of that, many of us have had to make hacks to exec

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread Dennis Bartlett
>> I think I have found the holy grail! Mr Hogan, Sir I do believe you have it... -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread Tony Gravagno
Two ideas, not entirely original: 1) The techie in me says It would be an interesting project to create the e-mail and web interfaces described in an MV system. (What a concept, a database for massive amounts of structured data...) It wouldn't have the bells and whistles of established e-mail lis

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-23 Thread Hogan, James
us both a web and mail list presence and would make ALL of us happy. It will also show that this community is happy to embrace new technology when it gives benefits (explained below). James Hogan Sungard -Original Message- From: Hogan, James Sent: 22 April 2004 09:38 To: '[EMAIL PROT

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-22 Thread Hogan, James
I think I have found the holy grail! http://m2f.sourceforge.net/ Mail 2 Forum joins two separate worlds of internet based communication together. Until now, the phpBB web based bulletin board or forum systems existed completely separately and isolated from existing email based mailing list or li

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/22/2004 12:29:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Seems to me a system where > *email ("the list") carries on as usual > *All emailed responses are submitted as forum responses > *All forum responses are whooshed out to the list as email I w

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-22 Thread Dennis Bartlett
To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Thanks. Sounds to me as though it should be the choice of whoever is shouldering the responsibility of looking after it. If they are prepared to do the work, then I applaud them and am privileged to be able to use it, in whateve

RE: RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Dennis Bartlett
ca. Promise I'll >> be quiet as a mouse, and churn out lotsa useful utilities, >> plus any amount of real work... :-) -Original Message- From: Dennis Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2004 12:01 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: OT: very

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Clif Oliver
What? Using something given for free without insisting it be tailored to your individual desires? Careful, Kate. The Programmers Guild will take away your membership card if word leaks out. -- Regards, Clif On Apr 21, 2004, at 16:36, Kate Stanton wrote: Thanks. Sounds to me as though it sh

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Kate Stanton
- From: "Results" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Kate, A forum is a message board. If you subscribe to a listserver list (like this one) you start

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: We need a web based Forum! I only belong to two groups: this one and sbsolutions on yahoo groups. To me they "behave" the same - I hav

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread alfkec
I only belong to two groups: this one and sbsolutions on yahoo groups. To me they "behave" the same - I have an email folder for each and messages are routed there. I interact with them in the same way - simply sending e-mail messages. However, the yahoo group also has a web-site with all of the

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/21/2004 9:43:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I think there are better solutions out there. For example searching the web > (having web access allows staff to find solutions for your company!) I was > able to find this http://phorum.org/ - "Phorum is a

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Clif Oliver
al Message- From: Clif Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:00 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Oh. The Microsoft model... :-) On Apr 21, 2004, at 6:29, George Gallen wrote: from it/for it, but if you think your getting a great bu

Re: OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Clif Oliver
"We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style." Have you ever noticed how often the little word "but" negates the previous clause? I don't mean to be cruel, but... I knew that program hadn't been completely tested, but... I don't want to hurt your feelings,

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread George Gallen
004 1:00 PM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! > > >Oh. The Microsoft model... > >:-) > >On Apr 21, 2004, at 6:29, George Gallen wrote: > >> from it/for it, but if you think your getting a great buy for your >> money, your

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Clif Oliver
Oh. The Microsoft model... :-) On Apr 21, 2004, at 6:29, George Gallen wrote: from it/for it, but if you think your getting a great buy for your money, your willing to accept almost any flaw. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

RE: RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Anthony Youngman
en if I want to. So don't expect me to bother ... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mitchell Sent: 21 April 2004 15:18 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: OT: RE: We need a web based Forum! OK, I hate to keep perp

OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Geoffrey Mitchell
t; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mitchell > Sent: 21 April 2004 00:10 > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! > > Why is that an argument? A "forum" is not the same as a chatroom. It > is

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Hogan, James
Sorry it has been a day before I reply, however getting the digest version delays my response somewhat. I take my hat of to people who deal with the deluge of individual emails each day! Will said: "But if this works like boards.ancestry.com or www.genforum.com then if you post via the email, your

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread George Gallen
--Original Message- >From: Craig Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:32 PM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! > > >> Yahoo groups works this way. >> >> You can either post via the web, or from

OT: veryy OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Dennis Bartlett
uiet as a mouse, and churn out lotsa useful utilities, plus any amount of real work... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schalk van Zyl Sent: 21 April 2004 11:28 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Dennis, I

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Dennis, I certainly hope your boss is not on this list! Schalk On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 05:18:49 -0400, Results <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dennis, If it helps you any, I've had bosses like your over here (U. S.) and they come in all nationalities and regions. If misery loves company, then you

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Results
Dennis, If it helps you any, I've had bosses like your over here (U. S.) and they come in all nationalities and regions. If misery loves company, then you have more company in this type of misery than you know. In my case, my boss isn't the problem (I work for myself in one business and have

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Dennis Bartlett
>> The main argument against the forum is that some of you out their can not "access >> the web". How can anyone in a development role do their job properly nowadays >> without being able to "access the web". I am sure that if all we had was a forum >> on the web, admin departments would be told th

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Stuart Boydell
; To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! > > > My ignorance is showing. What is the difference between a forum > and a list > (like this)? > > - Original Message - > From: "Geoffrey Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &g

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Anthony Youngman
levant) comments get ignored because the subject has now gone stale. Cheers, Wol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mitchell Sent: 21 April 2004 00:10 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Why is that an

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Results
Kate, A forum is a message board. If you subscribe to a listserver list (like this one) you start reading and responding from that point forward and everything is ::pushed:: to you mail box. With a forum, you can easily look at posts which pre-date your joining (a big plus) and you have to g

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Kate Stanton
My ignorance is showing. What is the difference between a forum and a list (like this)? - Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:09 AM Subjec

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Craig Bennett
> Yahoo groups works this way. > > You can either post via the web, or from Email, and receive > either web only or also via email. > > Of course, if the forum being used is canned, and doesn't have > those options, it might be a bit more difficult to do what > we > want. > > George But George Yah

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Mitchell
Why is that an argument? A "forum" is not the same as a chatroom. It is just as persistent as email. On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 16:38, Kate Stanton wrote: > >From New Zealand, the main argument against a forum is that we sleep while > you work and vice versa. It is 9:30am here now, and 7:30am in Sy

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Kate Stanton
>From New Zealand, the main argument against a forum is that we sleep while you work and vice versa. It is 9:30am here now, and 7:30am in Sydney - expect to hear similar story from Australians in about 2 hours. - Original Message - From: "Hogan, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PRO

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/20/2004 11:34:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yahoo groups works this way. > > You can either post via the web, or from Email, and receive > either web only or also via email. > > Of course, if the forum being used is canned, and doesn't have > thos

Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/20/2004 11:34:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yahoo groups works this way. > > You can either post via the web, or from Email, and receive > either web only or also via email. > > Of course, if the forum being used is canned, and doesn't have > thos

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread George Gallen
-- >From: Stevenson, Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:57 AM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: RE: We need a web based Forum! > > >The secret has GOT to be one (1) single database managing the posted >messages and threads, >with po

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Behalf Of Anthony Youngman > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:31 AM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: RE: We need a web based Forum! > > > I think forums may be available (again) soon on the u2ug site > - I'm not sure. > > But one of the reasons behind the muddle

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Keith Upton
snip The main argument against the forum is that some of you out their can not "access the web". How can anyone in a development role do their job properly nowadays without being able to "access the web". I am sure that if all we had was a forum on the web, admin departments would be told that X n

RE: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-20 Thread Anthony Youngman
I think forums may be available (again) soon on the u2ug site - I'm not sure. But one of the reasons behind the muddle at u2ug was that a lot of people DON'T like forums - they find them a pig to use even if they have access. I don't take the digest, for precisely the reason you've discovered. I