Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Press releases .....

2011-10-18 Thread alan c
On 03/08/11 12:49, Rubén Romero y Cordero wrote: Of course you also need to have contacts in the media. Go for the local IT media outlets and start there. Contacts are important. They are worth developing and cultivating. Start in whatever way you can, and be patient too, but do not give up.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] need a radio ad.

2010-12-27 Thread alan c
On 27/12/10 20:56, Hakim Sheriff wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to the team, I need a radio ad that I can use on my online radio station. I would like to help promote Ubuntu. I really need one quickly. Thx in advance, hakimsheriff Please also consider looking in at Mailing list:

[ubuntu-marketing] Spreadubuntu project

2010-11-10 Thread alan c
I have some leaflet materials and would like to share them. I have now joined the spreadubuntu team and list. Am I correct in thinking that the spreadubuntu diy repository is not quite yet ready? I am not a coder but am active in local 'marketing'. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user --

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread alan c
On 29/08/10 17:40, Mike Feravolo wrote: the key to the Microsoft's success in the software business is that they managed to get Windows installed at the factory on 95% of all the systems on the retail shelf. Well said indeed! Some attention to leverage at the supply end would be very

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread alan c
On 29/08/10 22:36, Randall Ross wrote: Is this not happening? Canonical *does* have a whole OEM group who has the responsibility to get Ubuntu factory-installed. Some attention to leverage at the supply end would be very helpful. There is a lot to learn. Hopefully yes, although I guess

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-25 Thread alan c
As you say, there are other aspects of Ubuntu. Motivations - and how they might be leveraged in Marketing: I have been using Ubuntu for some years, with Suse a bit before that, and it is only relatively recently that I think I fully understood the various issues of ethics, community, and

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-23 Thread alan c
On 23/08/10 06:44, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Targets 1. Those who doesn't know and care. Our goal is to make them want to try it. 2. The ones who are interested, but feel the obstacle is too great. 3. Those who have installed it: We make them want to keep it. 4. Dualbooters: We inspire them

[ubuntu-marketing] Walls have ears?

2010-08-23 Thread alan c
A coincidence that after a short while of active debate in this list, there appears an item online: Is Linux Publicity Targeting the Right Market? http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/7159/1/ -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Marketing team's purpose

2010-08-18 Thread alan c
On 18/08/10 03:49, Tim McNamara wrote: Yet lots of our recent discussion has been focused on how we as a team can craft a promotional campaign. That would place us more as leaders. Many team efforts around free software use various forms of leadership, which usually has some form of technical

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing etc.

2010-08-17 Thread alan c
On 17/08/10 00:05, Roscoe wrote: I think that the point that may be missed here is, have we fullfilled a need already of technically minded folks that have a really good OS. My point is that perhaps we should be trying to expose the great unwashed end users to Ubuntu? In my regular displays

[ubuntu-marketing] What I have been doing (UK)

2010-08-11 Thread alan c
A postcard from UK: I very much welcome the discussions here about Ubuntu Marketing, I am as frustrated as anybody about its apparent lack of profile in some traditional media places. I thought that writing down my activities here could contribute to some ideas. I have a number of friends

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] What I have been doing (UK)

2010-08-11 Thread alan c
On 11/08/10 20:21, Tim McNamara wrote: On 12 August 2010 07:02, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: ... This all seems rather a lot, all written down in one place, but I would gladly do much more. Wow, Alan that is an intimidating list for us to aspire to! Do you have any thoughts

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread alan c
On 10/08/10 04:33, Roscoe wrote: I still say that until there is the Ubuntu ad that pops up on the television set whilst *joe public* is watching it, we will be fighting a constant uphill battle. People will have to be introduced to Ubuntu via TV just like the other OS's, and will have to be

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-09 Thread alan c
On 09/08/10 04:50, Martin Owens wrote: If we want a solid marketing push, it's going to need to be the community which does it and it's probably going to need us agreeing on a set of sentiments. We might not be able to get everything branded the same or worded exactly, but we shouldn't be

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-06 Thread alan c
On 06/08/10 05:25, Martin Owens wrote: NEVER say that it's free, it's not wrong, but it misses the point. A bit like saying water out of a tap is free. Well yes technically it's free at the point of use, but there is a cost in maintaining the water supply and quality. I prefer 'software

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 17:29, Randall Ross wrote: I'd like to see more focus on intentional marketing, much beyond the current word-of-mouth grass-roots it'll grow organically stuff. Anyone else? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/21357 (See solution #5) I am with you here. I do marketing in UK at

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 19:32, supp...@buntfu.com wrote: centralized market place Market places are really good if populated and used, however, I would say that market 'places' are one aspect of marketing. The more general activity of 'marketing' is something for which the foss community is poorly

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 19:41, Loic Duros wrote: Ubuntu is great in so many ways both Windows and Mac are good for. The only negative aspect of Ubuntu compared to Mac is that it's basically free and it has less strong branding. Lots of people believe Apple and Mac OS are just so cool, but what it is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 22:11, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote: Free also has a connotation in some country as being not good or sub-standard (certainly this is true in the US), We want to promote Ubuntu because it's good, not because it's a cheap alternative. Free is a choice of word which, in English, is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Golden Circle and Adoption Curves

2010-05-23 Thread alan c
On 23/05/10 00:44, Martin Owens wrote: Hey everyone, I've recently blogged about two interesting marketing concepts, one which Mark touched upon in his key note at UDS and the other based on an interesting TedTalk: http://doctormo.org/2010/05/21/adoption-casm/

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] 10.10.10

2010-05-12 Thread alan c
On 11/05/10 10:30, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Hi folks As you may be aware we are thinking of releasing on 10.10.10 in a nod to the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I'd be interested to hear from you how you think such a move would be received by our core user base - whether there are enough

[ubuntu-marketing] Please use Ubuntu Stickers

2010-02-12 Thread alan c
I find that Ubuntu stickers - the white, paper looking type, are quite good on rear bumper/fender of my car, and on my bicycle also. May I encourage all to use an Ubuntu sticker on each rear car bump/fender or vehicle you have? It is an easy way to increase Ubuntu visibility at large, a key

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Please use Ubuntu Stickers

2010-02-12 Thread alan c
That would be great -Original Message- From: ubuntu-marketing-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-marketing-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of alan c Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:02 PM To: Ubuntu Marketing Subject: [ubuntu-marketing] Please use Ubuntu Stickers I find

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?

2010-02-09 Thread alan c
laugh and completely agree with you. But you are referring to my ability and not me as a person. Do you disrespect me because I can't cook? Kudos to your efforts with teaching people. The world needs more of you. Jared On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:44 +, alan c wrote: jared wrote

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?

2010-02-08 Thread alan c
jared wrote: You just described a huge chunk of the population where I live :) There is a lady where I work who should be legally banned from using a computer because she has the brain power of a rock. She will never, ever be able to learn how to use any OS. I've tried to help her, as did

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?

2010-02-02 Thread alan c
Liam Wilson wrote: Right, so it seems that creating a 'Viral Videos' (I.e; short videos that can be posted on the internet, similar to the Windows http://www.youtube.com/user/WindowsVideosones) project seems to be a better option to market Ubuntu than creating a TV ad for a number of reasons;

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Hopeful News for a 2009 Advertising Campaign

2009-01-04 Thread alan c
Jacob F. Roecker wrote: OK All: I'm working a few different video ideas for the whyubuntu.com site. Each will be uniquely different from other ads. I read the article in slashdot today http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/02/2330237 that shows linux should get more

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] One final question

2008-10-03 Thread alan c
Yellow Stevens wrote: Hi Guys, I have one final question for you, how does this list work in the area of local and international? Do people suggest marketing strategies for different countries, or does this list work out general principles that are then applied locally, as each local

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New To the list.

2008-09-29 Thread alan c
Yellow Stevens wrote: So silly question but what is the canonical marketing team up to...so we can dovetail with them? On a few occasions I have contacted them direct via email (in uk) once urgently, and have received useful responses. They are a small organisation, Ubuntu is bigger than

[ubuntu-marketing] list verification?

2008-08-08 Thread alan c
I notice I have not received any messages from the list for a while. Is it something at my end of things or what, or just a very quiet time? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Core Marketing Team Created! Join Us!

2008-06-14 Thread alan c
John Vilsack wrote: The Launchpad is now up and running. Mailing list is in process. Please feel free to sign up and join! https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-marketing Thanks John. I will join and do what I can. (I will however be probably unavailable for a couple of weeks very soon) --

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Clear new leadership

2008-06-13 Thread alan c
Onno Benschop wrote: I'm disappointed in this response that suggests having a discussion about leadership off-list. This is not a closed process, just because people aren't vocal does not mean they aren't interested. A team is a group of people with a common understanding of their aims. We

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Clear new leadership

2008-06-13 Thread alan c
Onno Benschop wrote: On 13/06/08 15:17, John Botscharow wrote: And is there some rule that says that a few of us cannot get together off the list and jointly prepare something concrete, well-thought out. and positive to bring to the list when it is ready rather than indulging in all the

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction, please]]

2008-06-09 Thread alan c
Pierre Vorhagen wrote: [...] Before I finish, I would like to point out that my views on group dynamics and email (as Onno said) are not the same either, I find the current way of functioning very effective for the moment. I too, think it is very useful If I can give you some advice...

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction, please]]

2008-06-09 Thread alan c
Onno Benschop wrote: [...] wonderful working environments I've stumbled upon are those where there is a group consensus about what needs to be done. Individuals are honoured for their hard work and contributions, but progress is made through discussion and agreement. That way everyone is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction,

2008-06-09 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: [...] That is EXACTLY how I see the leadership role of the team. What concerns me is the leadership within the team. We cannot lead Ubuntu marketing until we have some leadership of our own to keep us on track and moving forward. I believe we can. I do not need

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction,

2008-06-09 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:03:25 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, You, I guess, are what we in the colonies like to call a lone wolf. You are, and this is not a criticism but merely a statement of fact

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction,

2008-06-09 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: [...] To think that we can do effective marketing without leadership and structure is. to repeat myself, quite naive and will result in this team accomplishing nothing but lots of conversation. I have been doing effective marketing without an elected leader in this team,

[ubuntu-marketing] Meeting summary and conclusions?

2008-06-08 Thread alan c
Hi all, it was good to be part of the meeting on irc and unfortunately I had to leave halfway through. will someone be able to give a suitable link or paste here a summary or conclusions etc please? (candtalan) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: Re: Meeting Preparation - learning from the past]

2008-06-07 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Meeting Preparation - learning from the past Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:54:26 -0500 From: John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: alan c [EMAIL

[ubuntu-marketing] Article on mass Linux migration

2008-06-06 Thread alan c
I found this thoughtful article on mass Linux migration and the factors influencing it: What drives a mass Linux migration? http://www.itwire.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=18625Itemid=1090limit=1limitstart=1mosmsg=Thanks+for+your+vote%21mosmsg=You+already+voted+for+this+item+today.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Saturday's meeting

2008-06-05 Thread alan c
Maybe someone could update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings#head-3d41fc7e655d52f651b9f2055980f57c2ea3babf please? Søren Bredlund Caspersen wrote: Seems like someone has done that. Should be ready. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1503 ubottu bimberi: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 05

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed

2008-05-30 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: We need to hear from everyone re: their time zone so that we can get this meeting set up. I, for one, and I don't think I am alone here, that having this meeting to answer the questions on the agenda should be our first order of nusiness and should be done ASAP. Until we

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New Member

2008-05-29 Thread alan c
Bruno Barrera Yever wrote: Hello I had joined the LP group a few months ago, but i just found out about the mailing list. I am REALLY interested in helping out with Ubuntu Marketing. I have been involved in marketing ubuntu in my LoCo (the Mexican LoCo), but i would also like to help

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining who we are

2008-05-29 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:02 +0100, RJ wrote: I don't think creating a page there for your articles would be useful. Maybe putting a link somewhere getting guys on your wiki ? The wiki page should be, imo, specifically about ubuntu marketing, not marketing as a whole.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining who we are

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: I'm going to start a new thread here as the first step in creating a marketing plab for the team: We need to define who we are and to define who we target. And all that has to start with our BROAd mssion of Fixing Bug #1 Who we are: these are starting points I

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
VidA wrote: [...] For example : Suppose the loco team and Canonical** are exhibiting at the same event/conference, which will be taken seriously, the loco team or the Canonical team? Why should there be separate efforts and not a team effort ? Keeping Canonical separate from the community

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
RJ wrote: Sounds the best way to act to me. But still I would put defining our relationship with Canonical's marketing department at the first place. Since that's the point of the long discution we just had : everything that will be done here is depending on this relationship. So I'll

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
John Vilsack wrote: I think we are running in circles. Gleaning what I can from these messages, This is what I think we should consider: 1. The Local Communities are their own entity, and should be considered free to do what they want, with no perceived or implied oversight from any

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered by your question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for a day or two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you are right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and that

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: John V, Yes, I think leadership IS the biggest issue keeping us from doinng anything substabtive, and by leadership I mean more than just people. I think your proposal is something that definitely needs done. So, I ovte YES!!! Seconded alan cocks On Wed,

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-28 Thread alan c
Onno Benschop wrote: On 28/05/08 10:13, John Botscharow wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 07:50 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote: One of the major challenges I had (and still have) - is the visibility of this particular group of individuals - the Marketing Team. Would you elaborate on this,

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-27 Thread alan c
John Botscharow wrote: John V., What a perfect segue to something I wanted to propose, but was waiting to see if more members of the group chime in: My talents and experience are not in the programming area. far from it! I am a writer and a blogger. So, the other day, when Ronnie Tucker

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The future of the Marketing Team

2008-05-21 Thread alan c
Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: Hello Marketing Team Members and Interested Parties, I'd like to report on the session we had here at UDS regarding Ubuntu Marketing so that we can get a wider audience and allow everyone a fair chance to share their ideas, point of view, or prospective solution

[ubuntu-marketing] Dell Desktop (ubuntu) pricing

2008-05-16 Thread alan c
I am in the market now, for a desktop and would like it to have been a Dell, supporting Ubuntu and Dell too. However, I have looked in detail this morning and it seemed expensive compared to the windows stuff, so I did a detail comparison, twice, just to be sure. With identical hardware

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: Edubuntu - loss of Live CDs in 8.04 Hardy?]

2008-04-29 Thread alan c
presenting a minor separate Education Linux Variant. Regards Richard On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 17:37 +0100, alan c wrote: Chris Kenyon wrote: Subject: [ubuntu-marketing] Edubuntu - loss of Live CDs in 8.04 Hardy

[ubuntu-marketing] Edubuntu - loss of Live CDs in 8.04 Hardy?

2008-04-28 Thread alan c
I have become aware that Edubuntu 8.04 no longer offers a 'Live CD'. I do know that it is a simple matter to install Ubuntu and then the Edubuntu desktop etc and the add on CD now offered makes that easy too. However, from a 'Marketing' point of view, the loss of a demonstrable item such as a

[ubuntu-marketing] Merchandise - Hardy Heron Tee shirt?

2008-04-28 Thread alan c
The outstanding artwork for Hardy, as shown on the Hardy Heron Tee shirt deserves more than to be out of stock! With an LTS release with such a nice graphic, I would sincerely hope that the Tee shirts will be in good supply for years, not (as apparently) just days.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Hunting for sponsors

2008-04-24 Thread alan c
For last year's Software Freedom Day in Bracknell, The local print cartridge, print and copy shop printed leaflets for me, to my design, with advertising for them on a front panel (I designed it with their agreement). The leaflets were double sided A4 non colour, but the cost would have been

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] BBC article

2008-04-22 Thread alan c
Tony Yarusso wrote: For UWN consideration: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7358483.stm see also the Blog: Is it lift off for Linux? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/is_it_lift_off_for_linux.html -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Introducing a community based PC vendor. (Mike Feravolo)

2008-03-11 Thread alan c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kept it similar to ubuntu not because of trying to steal or confuse I take you at your word, but nonetheless it certainly confused me, even though it was not your intention. From a marketing point of view, such confusion is disastrous and your excellent idea can

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Introducing a community based PC vendor.

2008-03-10 Thread alan c
steve hatherley wrote: From their website: *Disclaimer* Buntfu.com is not officially supported, endorsed nor associated with Ubuntu(R) / Canonical(R) and its products or services. But we do have buntfu for Ubuntu. I am aware now thanks. Although the look and feel of the site might lead you

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Introducing a community based PC vendor.

2008-03-07 Thread alan c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buntfu is a Siswati expression, a word that encompasses a lot of meanings. There is love in there, there is trust, and there are feelings. Buntfu is a word that describes being human – how you relate to your neighbor, how you relate to the person sitting next to you,

[ubuntu-marketing] Shift linux is now based on Ubuntu

2008-01-28 Thread alan c
Just for information - another distro has decided to use ubuntu as a basis. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04724 ' Shift Linux has moved away from its Morphix base and is now based on Ubuntu. ' http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=shift Shift Linux is a project that was

[ubuntu-marketing] The Economist: Ubuntu is the source of Linux's rise

2007-12-26 Thread alan c
Article (UK publication) The Economist: Ubuntu is the source of Linux's rise http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9837818-16.html extract: No question, Gutsy Gibbon is the sleekest, best integrated and most user-friendly Linux distribution yet. It's now simpler to set up and configure than

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Dethroning Ubuntu - nice article

2007-12-07 Thread alan c
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: There's a nice article on the net: Dethroning Ubuntu -- What Would It Take? http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/31771_3714986_1 It talks about strong and weak points of Ubuntu and about making a successful product in general. It could be added to the next

[ubuntu-marketing] gOS - worth being aware of!

2007-11-14 Thread alan c
I have just used a gos live cd and think I have seen the future of computing for basic users! I am not surprised that the walmart stock quickly sold out. Based on ubuntu, the simplicity of a broadband (wired) connection, a modern but low end machine, and google based applications, it is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] online ubuntu install trainer

2007-11-12 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 22:10 +0530, Two Steps Back wrote: @Installer: We can start with an install trainer, to begin with, if http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37158/ is too complex. Then upgrade to cover all hardware configs. I'm not sure we do. We have plenty of

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] online ubuntu install trainer

2007-11-11 Thread alan c
Two Steps Back wrote: [...] We need a complete *fake* web2.0-based installation *trainer* for ubuntu This is a very good idea if it can be got together. There are a number of variations - from single HD with XP (guided resize) to two or more hard drives with xp on the first in a partition, and

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New York Times advertisement for Ubuntu

2007-10-25 Thread alan c
Tom M wrote: It got noticed in the foss community because it was original. It got noticed in a thousand local papers, and in major news outlets because it was original. The actual impact of the Times ad itself, was probably quite small, I'd be surprised if the ad itself generated even a

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New York Times advertisement for Ubuntu

2007-10-25 Thread alan c
Belinda A. Lopez wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 6:13 AM, alan c wrote: What does it take to create a new user, and how long is that process? [...] and the approach I like is to target certain occupations and show how they can transition to FOSS. Nice idea of targetting yes. I have just

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New York Times advertisement for Ubuntu

2007-10-24 Thread alan c
Tom M wrote: On 10/24/07, Kristian Erik Hermansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We really need to have a New York Times advertisement. It worked for Firefox and you will find my name (and 10,000 others) on the first advertisement shown below... It worked for firefox because it was an original

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] 'new' CD stand.

2007-10-18 Thread alan c
Simon Wood wrote: Hi all, I've been playing with the design of the DIY CD Stand. An SVG containing my changes can be found here: http://www.mungewell.org/linux/cd_stand.svg The improvements are: * Only requires single side printing. * Self documenting, multilingual. * Is more stable

[ubuntu-marketing] 13 reasons why Linux wont ..... (a Marketeers view)

2007-09-12 Thread alan c
An interesting and full set of views why Linux is a niche product article: 13 reasons why Linux won't make it to a desktop near you http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3304051309.html the first four reasons are : # The people who make the product have no money for marketing. # The reason they

[ubuntu-marketing] Blog - Linux Hardware Support Better Than Windows

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Not Ubuntu specific, but this is the sort of comment I really love to see! http://changelog.complete.org/posts/644-Linux-Hardware-Support-Better-Than-Windows.html A nice marketing stance. There are a host of good news stories about Linux which are well worth shouting. From a marketing strategy

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Questionable Canonical Merchandise

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Sarah Hobbs wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, No idea who's behind this marketing decision, but... http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/08/20/linux-for-ladies/ As discussed in #debian-women earlier...does that mean that ladies are no longer human beings now?

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] the Ladies t-Shirts

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Gerry Carr wrote: Hi all There has been some excitement about the Ladies T-Shirts I see. Well suffice to say the people at Canonical who made the decision were me Kat and Claire. And we did it to make the t-shirts more attractive to women not less. But it appears that not everyone shares

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Viral Videos

2007-08-19 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: On 19/08/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. I haven't had a response to my emails to either Mozilla, or Ubuntuvideo.com. If the guy running ubuntuvideo.com isn't responsive, that is a substantial problem, given that the site is supposed to be a marketing

[ubuntu-marketing] Bug #1 What we're up against

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
A post on this subject on the UK list gave this link: http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free It is well worth reading. It is closely though out and argued. The article is a pro linux response to a linux critical one of a similar subject. For this list I copy some extracts here of points which

[ubuntu-marketing] Decide Our message - and Sing it!

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
How to get our message across? A unique and fun way for us to deliver our message is to Sing it! The utube link below is a Helsinki Choir, getting attention in a delightful way, on the subject of complaints in their lives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68 enjoy -- alan cocks Kubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-14 Thread alan c
Aaron Toponce wrote: [...] Only the true hardcore nerds are familiar other distros such as Yellow Dog, Nexenta, *BSD and even PCLinuxOS. Not any more, which is part of my point. My experience at the weekend was a shock to me, I was unprepared for it (I will be prepared in future though). The

[ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Blog: Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu ? http://www.pkblogs.com/cyneuron/2007/08/why-is-pclinuxos-2007-better-than.html#comment-1731958896017522083 This blog has the most succinct comparison I have seen, I am impressed. I find I am in agreement with most (not all) of what is said, and I

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu World Map

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I bring your attention to the Ubuntu World map which I believe is the sort of thing which will help increase ubuntu buzz. It is taking some time to be given status as 'Sticky' on the forums, although I think it woul db ean excellent idea. I would like to encourage ubuntu use

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu World Map

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: Hi, Back on list. On 13/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew East wrote: On 13/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flippinsweetdude.com/maps/index.php Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide. This one you've posted appears

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Martin Ahnelöv wrote: Martin Ahnelöv wrote: mÃ¥n 2007-08-13 klockan 08:26 +0100 skrev alan c: Blog: Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu ? http://www.pkblogs.com/cyneuron/2007/08/why-is-pclinuxos-2007-better-than.html#comment-1731958896017522083 This blog has the most

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Internet Market

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Dalton Miyabara wrote: De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cópia: ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Data: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:41 -0700 Assunto: [Spam] Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Television Market, Orlando FLorida USA On 8/1/07, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ubuntu-marketing] eye the competition 'Marketing'

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
Someone is getting desperate perhaps? I saw a 8 leaf (16 sides) booklet today in a neat container on the counter of my local computer shop. Advertising Microsoft Office. For interest in the possible debate about what marketing is, and differences between technical fact and marketing (expected)

[ubuntu-marketing] more marketing pressure needed?

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
An article has recently appeared: 'Marketing Ubuntu - Why we Need More Double Glazing Salesmen' http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/07/24/marketing-ubuntu-why-we-need-more-double-glazing-salesmen/ I find myself in good accord with the article. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 --

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Targeting locally impacting widely

2007-07-24 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: I think that this is quite a good draft. However, I think it is important (as Debian does in their why you should switch page) to note some disadvantages as well. I do not go along with (that quoted comment) at all. This is a *Marketing* list! We should be bringing

[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntus 'best move ever'

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
I have thought hard about the topic discussed in the article, and am glad to say that a solution has now been delivered to me! When thinking about my own leaflets for local use (informing about FOSS) it was obvious to me that in a public non technical uninformed audience, the word 'Free' was

[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu in the wild - down to earth review (article)

2007-07-16 Thread alan c
This article is well worth reading if you love Ubuntu. It is not particularly favourable, but I think it is typical of what will be many others in future now that Ubuntu has got a visible place on many peoples radar. It offers how others see us. Gold dust for Marketing I suggest. I know there

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Material for launching Open Source shop

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
Chris Warburton wrote: Now the big question, who can help me come up with marketing material and ideas for marketing events like the launch. What approach to take to get people aware of OSS and how to let people know of pro's and con's of converting. Want to take a clean approach to this

[ubuntu-marketing] Review of the 'competition'

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
With my marketing interest hat on, I am increasingly aware, in an uncomfortable way, of the implications of the Distrowatch rankings. It is a simple counter I believe, and has limitations, but is a number to be judged upon, particularly in the apparently complete absence of any other available

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Material for launching Open Source shop

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
Stephan Buys wrote: Hi All Been Ubuntu user for almost 2 years now, love it, want to incorporate it into a shop i am opening selling pre-installed ubuntu pc's, notebooks and ps3's. Entering the market for making people aware of other OSS solutions, asterisk, X10-home automation, CRM, ERP,

[ubuntu-marketing] How Microsoft conquered China - CNN article

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
This is an interesting read, and if you had any doubts about how effective ms are, this will inform. Are Canonical are able to develop relationships with Chinese institutions? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] How Microsoft conquered China - CNN article (link)

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: This is an interesting read, and if you had any doubts about how effective ms are, this will inform. Are Canonical are able to develop relationships with Chinese institutions? (Many apologies, I missed out the link!) http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] full circle magazine - issue #2 ... last call

2007-06-27 Thread alan c
Ronnie Tucker wrote: Hi all, We're just about ready to launch issue #2 so if anyone has any objections to anything in issue #2, it's speak now or forever hold your peace! :D http://www.ronnietucker.co.uk/issue2.pdf NOTE: i've since - * removed a rogue reference to automatix * made

[ubuntu-marketing] Dell Refuses to Sell Ubuntu to Business!!

2007-06-20 Thread alan c
Can you believe this? (seen on Slashdot) ' Dell Refuses to Sell Ubuntu to Business' I had a surreal experience with Dell today. My boss asked me to order a new computer for our small, non-profit business. Wanting to support Dell in these Dell computers are designed for

[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu ranking - Distrowatch site

2007-06-18 Thread alan c
I keep an eye on the Distrowatch site and have noticed lately that the top most position ranking of my beloved ubuntu is tending to slip. The shorter term averages show ubuntu in second rank place. Some by a large margin. The ranking position may not be a simple matter, but an occasional

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Distribution Disks

2007-04-23 Thread alan c
Mike Feravolo wrote: Hello: Early in my professional career I once submitted a software change request with the words the software doesn't agree with the documentation. To describe a fault in the software, by now you may have guess the approach that they took to resolve this bug. They

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