missing some.
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. Using a variable (or several) instead of myArray doesn't
help, neither does putting some dummy stuff () into myArray[1],
myArray[2], etc., ahead of time.
What am I not understanding?
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But that works only (if I understand correctly) after you've used a
select statement. It works on a cursor that's already been
returned. I'm trying to get information about the column names
numbers before I do a select (in preparation for select).
Charles Hartman
On Oct 9, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
Something I don't understand about the revExecuteSQL command. I
open my MySQL database and get an id. Now, to make later steps more
general purposes, I'd like to ask the database for the structure of
one of its tables (number of columns
Hartman
On Oct 9, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:
On 9 Oct 2005, at 19:26, Charles Hartman wrote:
Something I don't understand about the revExecuteSQL command. I
open my MySQL database and get an id. Now, to make later steps
more general purposes, I'd like to ask the database
a simple solution.
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This is a moderately dumb thing in Rev (other multi-window apps deal
with it OK) that can be more than moderately frustrating and
confusing for a newcomer. And me, though I've been doing stuff with
Rev for several months. Yes, it's an already reported bug.
Charles Hartman
,
print something on the current printer, then come back.
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Thanks Eric. That does it.
On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Hi Charles,
revApplicationOverview and revDocs
Le 10 oct. 05 à 18:34, Charles Hartman a écrit :
Will someone remind me how to get the [EMAIL PROTECTED] documentation and app-
browser stacks back into view? (I
Should have mentioned I'm using OSX. But thanks for put the windows
-- I didn't think of that.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:49 PM, MisterX wrote:
Just type this in the message box
put the windows
copy the stack's name
set the topright of stack paste here to item 3
-button is bad, bad). But a list is a field not a button
and has no menu style . . . Somebody pity the poor confused remind
me what to do in this situation?
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starting up that window again . . .
(OS 10.4.2; Dreamcard 2.6.1 but it happened on 2.6 before I upgraded)
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-source guy; but having sprung for
Dreamcard, I'm very glad I also sprang for Constellation. It's
cleaner, better integrated, and for me somewhat more intuitive than
the Rev IDE, which I continue to find very quirky.
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don't have to *think* about the bookkeeping) and half -- the more
interesting half -- like synths.
IMHO
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be interested if anybody
had code they wanted to share for incremental searches. I can't quite
figure out how that's done (efficiently).
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a built-in date-conversion function, with different standards
as arguments controlling the output? It would be *great* to have a
smart function like that, that would take the whole range of formats
various users might type into a field. (Anybody got one?)
Charles Hartman
On Oct 14, 2005, at 6:26
Wow -- as in, wow!
Charles Hartman
On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
On 10/14/05 5:53 PM, Charles Hartman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe a built-in date-conversion function, with different standards
as arguments controlling the output? It would be *great* to have a
smart
in the msg-box input space again.
2. now I see the same thing happening with editable text fields in my
modal dialog box itself -- typing a blank space loses the focus.
I don't see anything about this in Rev's Preferences, so I guess
that's the wrong place to look. Any clues?
Charles Hartman
for debugging modals that I don't know about?
Can't find anything in the docs . . .
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Thanks -- no, I didn't see this answer before. (Sorry, whoever
answered; intermittent server problems here.)
Now that I know: How do I turn that off?
Charles Hartman
On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:41 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Charles Hartman wrote:
(I asked a version of this earlier.) While my
On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:47 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Charles Hartman wrote:
I know this is a dumb question -- but I'm having a hard time
debugging a modal dialog box. What am I missing?
When the box is full, the Done button processes its data (and
sends it off to a MySQL database
dialog box is modeless.
Maybe not all the time, I'm not sure. But while I'm typing in one of
the dlg's text fields, I'm getting the same loss-of-focus-on-spacebar.
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On Oct 17, 2005, at 6:11 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Charles Hartman wrote:
On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:28 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Also, the behavior doesn't seem to occur unless you have a modal
stack frontmost. If you can change your frontmost stack to modeless
during debugging, you should
bugs after the fact.
Wel . . . of course there *are* programming environments in which
that's not so hard. Rev, in contrast, doesn't have (as far as I can
tell) even any way to tell how you got to a particular breakpoint
line --a stack inspector in the other sense.
Charles Hartman
Wow. I knew that. I forgot that, somewhere about a week after I
started using Rev. Thanks.
coh
On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Charles-
Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 4:07:56 AM, you wrote:
Wel . . . of course there *are* programming environments in which
that's not so
a beginner who needs the Docs a lot) I agree that they're
very good -- it's just that they are *deathly* slow. Not for a
filter with in the Dictionary (though I appreciate the DM gadget
for that anyway), but for the Topics.
Charles Hartman
the impossibly slow part of Rev's docs. (If
it's just the dictionary, then the MM xscript gadget does it for
me . . .)
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Dang, I'd forgotten about that very handy piece of devolution. Now I
have to have devolution running, again, too. I need six screens.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 18, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I can't ell you how many times I've had to use the message box
to reposition windows
On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In the Files section of the MC IDE working group there's a shell a
couple of us built which suck up the thousands of tiny Transcript
Dictionary files and imports them into a single
in stack.
The address is: http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia. Go to page Tools
and Samples
for Development.
Yes, that is *very* fast indeed. Thanks! And revBrowser looks handy,
too -- prospects of bringing it up to date? (The site says it needs
it . . .)
Charles Hartman
front-end. Without it, I'd have to switch to Terminal all the
time and issue MySQL commands; this is faster and breaks the train of
thought a lot less. Thanks!
Charles Hartman
P.S. I can second what you said about adding on complications when
you undertake to make Rev and MySQL work together
finally
usable.) Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point.
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) into getting the programs to work together in either
case, and since the commercial ones are generally *harder* to
combine, the attraction of open-source solutions mounts up pretty
quickly.
But I think I'm off-topic. Sorry.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 21, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Chipp Walters wrote
Now that is interesting news.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Not yet. But the developers and I are meeting next week to discuss
that very question.
Dan
On Oct 21, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote:
The AquaMinds site says plug-ins must be Java applets
On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:19 AM, MisterX wrote:
I can't tell you how much they do!
And they certainly don’t take their customer's problems seriously
either!
If you mean PayPal -- it's pretty clearly not PayPal sending out all
that PayPal phishing spam.
Charles Hartman
X
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Sounds reasonable. Why would PayPal phish its own customers?
Weird idea
-- or an ultimate perfection of capitalism?
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one I'm looking at, the one whose controls and variables I want to
access. So I keep typing stuff into the msg box that gets errors
because I'm not noticing it's paying attention to some other stack.
Might that be fixable?
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to the expected value. But if I don't do that,
the value is not live updated in the lower panel.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 24, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
On 10/25/05, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--and while I'm complaining:
Variable Watcher is handy, and it's nice
I'm using 2.6.1 on Tiger. Hm.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:16 AM, Jim Ault wrote:
I used to see this once in a while in pre 2.5.1 on Panther. (2.2.1
probably). Found that relaunching Rev would get it working again.
Now on 2.5.1/Panther and all is well.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 10
I don't have time to check at this minute -- but I'll take Mark W's
message (a little farther down the list) to mean that this has
already been BZ'd . . . right?
Charles
On Oct 25, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
On 10/25/05, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I have
OK, I've posted it: #3204.
Charles
On Oct 25, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Charles-
Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 9:14:53 AM, you wrote:
I don't have time to check at this minute -- but I'll take Mark W's
message (a little farther down the list) to mean that this has
already been
breakpoint.
In any other debugging environment I've seen, that's not what step
means. It means execute the currently-highlighted line and stop.
(This is using Constellation, but I assume it's behavior of the
underlying debugging engine, not the UI.)
Charles Hartman
the value associated with Key2? I
think (I could certainly, easily, probably, be wrong) the only way to
eliminate the key itself would be to make a new array and copy the
other key/value pairs to it . . .
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I love it when somebody asks a question on this list, and somebody
else answers, and I learn something I should have known. I just have
to remember to leave out that _middle_ step, trying to answer myself.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
You say
delete
on . . .]
with the breakpoint on the get libdb_ . . . line.
Charles Hartman
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Charles Hartman wrote:
I've been bumbling numbly along with debugging -- and somehow it
just occurred to me that something's wrong here:
I put a breakpoint on a line
On Oct 26, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Oct 26, 2005, at 5:25 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
I've been bumbling numbly along with debugging -- and somehow it
just occurred to me that something's wrong here:
I put a breakpoint on a line in the middle of a script, run till I
(my prev snipped out to save space)
On Oct 26, 2005, at 1:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
This sounds like the problem we have discussed before, where if
there is an error in a function or handler call and the breakpoint
is set in the calling handler, the debugger will simply run to the
end
On Oct 26, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
There is a checkbox in Constellation that needs to be checked
called: into. Make sure it is checked for it to work as expected.
?? I don't want to step into; I want to step over
On Oct 26, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
I totally get it Charles. As in other areas of life, one must use
workarounds until something changes. All in all, it is minor
compared the problems that have been solved by Constellation.
True enough. I've been collecting little nits,
to think about it
differently?
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Tons of great suggestions. And somewhere in there is the combination
that will help me feel like a rational being while I code. Already,
all this makes me think about how I *do* do it, which makes it easier
to think about how I should could.
Gratefully,
Charles Hartman
by the preOpenStack handler.
That list shows a hilite on the blank line after the last item in the
list. How do I get rid of it??
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Excellent, that does it: openStack rather than preOpenStack. Thanks!
Charles
On Oct 30, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:
On 30 Oct 2005, at 12:56, Charles Hartman wrote:
I've got a dialog substack that includes two fields with
listBehavior set to true. I fill them up from scripts
up with the blank line at the end of the (now shortened) list hilited.
So there's something general I don't understand. What's sneaking in
and puting hilites where I haven't asked for them in a script and the
user hasn't clicked anything new?
Charles Hartman
On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:40 AM
a
little-known but very useful Rev-internal command. (Hint: watch what
happens to the person sitting next to you.)
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substacks . . .
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On Nov 2, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
On 11/2/05 7:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks for responding Jacque,
As I said before in other questions to the group I've apparently
suffered
some sort of corruption. These three windows
On Nov 2, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
on openStack
if the owner of the target is me then
set the rect of this stack to the screenRect
else
pass openStack
end if
end openStack
-- but when I do add this bracketing condition to my preOpenStack
handler in the main
.
Charles Hartman
Not that I can see - especially in Windows where some apps write to
the
AppData folder, some write to the Registry, some write local files,
I think
you should do what best suits you.
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nothing if I'm
really opening the stack. All that makes sense I think. I can't think
how to write that line for both contexts -- suggestions?
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consolidate this? I'm sure there is, but I can't seem to find it . . .
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not to work (unless I've done something else wrong).
Is there a right way to do this?
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-clicks in a field that
I'm using as a scrollable list. Trapping mouseUp and/or mouseDown
seems not to work (unless I've done something else wrong).
Is there a right way to do this?
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list. Trapping mouseUp and/or mouseDown
seems not to work (unless I've done something else wrong).
Is there a right way to do this?
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'Pears to work in Safari. (Loads into a browser window, but savable
from there.
Charles Hartman
On Nov 11, 2005, at 2:26 PM, MisterX wrote:
http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=82
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I'm sorry, I can't remember who posted the nifty partial solution to
incremental searching in a sorted list in a field: scroll to the
first item that begins with whatever letter the user presses. I've
made a microscopic improvement to take care of the case in which no
item begins with the
On Nov 12, 2005, at 7:29 AM, MisterX wrote:
- list navigation based on sorted column+keys typed in sequence -
thanks
Charles for boosting that script's fix.
(You'd be welcome, except that I don't think any of the interesting
bits are mine -- and I can't remember who did the main code!
put the seconds into lastKeyTime
put lineOffset(CR kTyped, me) into lo
if lo is not 0
then set the scroll of me to lo * the effective textHeight of me
end keyUp
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0, so no scroll at all.
;)
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Charles Hartman
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 17:08
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: scrolling to a line
I've modified Xavier's modification of my modification
On Nov 13, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
FWIW, I don't think that's expected behavior or necessarily good
user experience design. If there's no find then things should
stay the same. Maybe a beep but a scroll to a phantom location
doesn't really help me much, doesn't give me any new
I finally figured out where I got the original code which I quoted in
my message
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-November/
069934.html
-- it was written by Klaus and posted on Ken's SoT site:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/fld003.htm
On Nov
it? I could build a kludge
filter (maybe, though it would be easier if I knew exactly how those
keystrokes got in there), but there must be a better way.
Any advice enlightenment much appreciated as always.
Charles Hartman
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Jacque,
I would not have thought of that in 127 days. Thank you!
(I'm still a little puzzled. I still don't see why my script local
variable is getting tampered with by something outside the script at
all. I fear I'm missing a General Concept here.)
Charles Hartman
On Nov 15, 2005, at 10
containing
the field whose script contains the keyUp handler. That handler then
calls a handler in the main stack, which reads and writes a variable
there in the main stack script. So why does that cmd-U (or the 'u'
part of it) end up in that variable?
Charles Hartman
). It was good; it worked; you could do anything you could think
of with it, at the time.
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On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
I can only shake my head.
*So far* you can. (Tomorrw Aunt Zelda may shake it for you . . .)
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Funny, we just talked about biometric stuff in class a couple of
weeks
back.
Of course, one
(= paste). Puzzling.
Charles Hartman
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really, really expensive? Yes, many are now; but
many aren't. Jarhead was edited, as I understand it, by whatshisname
the great film editor using Final Cut Pro. Pro-level audio software,
though not cheap, is within reach for an amateur. Will that stop
being true? Don't like it.
Charles
They don't shoot people on this list. Lethal injections are the
preferred mode.
Charles Hartman
On Nov 17, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Sean Shao wrote:
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So commandKeyDown works outside the field, but only rawKeyDown works
inside the field.
I'd really like to know if I've got something wrong about this.
Charles Hartman
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On 11/18/05 7:57 AM, Charles Hartman
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So commandKeyDown works outside the field, but only rawKeyDown works
inside the field.
I'd really like to know if I've got something wrong about this.
Charles, that's not what I'm getting... I created a simple stack
with two
Sometimes I need to use rawKeyDown handlers, which receive a keyCode
parameter. Two questions: is there a table of these somewhere? and,
are these cross-platform? (If I have to use two tables, and wrap
everything in an if platform structure, I'm going to be very sad.)
Charles Hartman
I myself could *really* use that sometimes.
And if they want crank-based software too, maybe I could help . . .
Charles Hartman
On Nov 18, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Aren't there some crank-based ones too? One or more cranks for 30
min.
battery life I think... I'll take a look
. The latter is
easier to deal with, so I should go back and experiment with that
some more.
One way or another, we seem to have an OS 10.3 / 10.4 disparity,
don't we?
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palette, is that property false? If you have no
commandKey handler at all, doesn't cmd-A select all the lines in the
list?
Charles Hartman
On Nov 18, 2005, at 9:37 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I can confirm Charles' results with 10.4.3 Revoloution - so it's
not
just
Thanks to Sarah Phil. I just wanted to know if I could trust the
basics -- escape, return, enter, arrow keys.
Charles
On Nov 18, 2005, at 4:27 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
On 11/19/05, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes I need to use rawKeyDown handlers
good
Linux support for the reasons above.
And the Brazilian government's policy is worth keeping in mind, and
watching as a plausible trend.
Charles Hartman
On 18 Nov 2005, at 21:17, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I don't know RunRev's position, but for myself I see Linux as a
challenging beast
I assume that in DreamCard I can write an OSI-certifiable thingie
that is a DM stack, with StackRunner bundled with it.
Charles Hartman
On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Mathewson wrote:
Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . .
I believe that it is perfectly legal to download
On Nov 23, 2005, at 6:07 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
All those numbers are called perfect squares. And only they have an
odd number of factors, because one of the factors is the square
root of the number in question. For example, nine has three
factors, 1 and 9 and 3. [I confess, I can't see
On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Jim Hurley wrote:
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:19:31 -0500
From: Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT Last week's CarTalk puzzler
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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I absolutely promise not to post on this topic any more. But having
said something stupid I have to take it back, which requires posting,
trying to avoid saying something stupid . . . I think this is
called karma.
What I neatly demonstrated had nothing much to do with the problem,
?? Not according to
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/
Where'd you see it?
Charles Hartman
On Nov 26, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Mathewson wrote:
GIMP is now available for MAC OS X without having to fool
around with X11.
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the street, instead. A lot of people
tried programming for the first time because of Borland Pascal,
DeSmet C, HyperCard . . . They weren't choosing between one product
and another (e.g., a pro and a lite version). I imagine a certain
number of the pros on this list began that way.
Charles
,
needs) are misleading.
It's the message path that dominates everything, I think. When you
keep it in mind you tend to make right decisions about design, large
and small. When you forget about it, you don't just do inefficient
work, you paint yourself into deeply bafflling corners.
Charles
On Nov 28, 2005, at 12:54 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be
that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.
Been zilla'd: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?
id=2814.
But it's still marked Unconfirmed?
Charles Hartman
On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Thomas Fischer wrote:
actually, it might be useful to activate the Message Watcher
(available in the Debug Menu when editing a script, but staying
around after the script is closed). It will be necessary to
suppress some messages (at least cRevGeneral - what
the flexibility of a natural
language is available then feel hurt bewildered that it isn't.
(For an example, port a Hypercard stack to Rev and look how many
errors pop up that have to be solved by inserting the where
Hypertalk didn't require it.)
Charles Hartman
, but for people who've gotten somewhat farther up
the learning curve. (Not that it matters much.)
Charles
On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:45 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Charles Hartman wrote:
As a Prof. of English and long-time amateur programmer (but if you
say hobbyist in my vicinity I'll bristle) I
Just raising my hand here as Civilian Who Wouldn't Be Using Rev If I
Couldn't Do It For Under $100 (since it's my own non-amortizable
money). It can make sense for Rev not to want me, but it makes a
different kind of sense for Rev to swallow its pride take me on.
Who knows what might
On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
I have to agree with Sarah. I often want to see if a string doesn't
contain another string.
where I always feel you should be able to use something like:
if myVar does not contain fred
This would mean adding does to the Transcript
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