Hi :)
Nicely done! :) It's good to see it stirred up a bit of debate and
interesting to hear the bug-squad (or whatever they are called here)
had just recently discussed the issue.
I tend to agree that i think people should register with the
bug-reporting thing before being allowed to upload
How do I just log into the bug reporting system and search it? Anyone?
This is a list of all LibreOffice bugs
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=
specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=
LibreOfficecontent=.
thanks, but I didn't ask for that...
You
On 2013-11-14 5:56 AM, Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com
wrote:
Freedesktop.org Bugzilla log-in page https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ (click
Log in top right hand corner)
- click Search
- Select LibreOffice in the Product drop down and search you heart out.
OR
Use the Search field
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:30:23 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
Then... You don't want them as a customer/user, nothing more than
that. Now, if you were building your own business, is that
something you want to be doing, driving customers away?
Actually, if you are building your
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:45:24 -0800 (PST)
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
You are missing the voluntary concept. Voluntary doesn't mean that
you do what you feel like when you feel like. It means that you are
volunteering your time and/or skills for some project. Someone
coordinates the tasks
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:55:07 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
You and John have missed my point.
Features vs. bugs is irrelevant in what I'm saying.
No, it's not. There are limited resources, and both bugs and features
compete for those resources. Because if some features are not
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:34:54 -0800 (PST)
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right. You can't tell people what to do. That is how
voluntary work is done.
I'm happy so long as nobody is going around complaining that the devs
are a bunch of lazy, arrogant anarchists who ignore users in order
@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results
of the survey
Hello Ken,
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com a écrit :
Hi, Charles,
On 11/11/13 4:19 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Hello Alex,
Le Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:05:46 +0100,
Alex Thurgood
Le Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:17:31 +0100,
Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com a écrit :
Le 11/11/13 12:19, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Hi Charles,
Next time I'm sure you can join us in the weeks during which we
discussed the survey on the marketing and project's list :-)
Hi :)
If a troll gets banned they usually just find another new name or even
go so far as to set-up a new free email account
The only ways that seem to work are
1. To let them know their behaviour is being (possibly) misconstrued
as unhelpful and unfriendly
2. avoid taking any notice of them
Hi Urmas,
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 05:35 +0700, Urmas wrote:
Then why does the LO site not feature a warning on a front page: User,
you are ...
So - trying to condense something positive out of this; it sounds like
we should have something (perhaps in the BSA) that explains to
newcomers,
Hi Ken,
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:33 -0700, Ken Springer wrote:
After using LO for awhile, I found and filed a couple of bugs/issues. I
wanted to contribute in the area of reporting issues, but I don't have
the knowledge to fix them. I didn't expect those problems to go to the
head of the
Servus Micheal,
true, what you are saying, but one little thing:
Am 12.11.2013 11:46, schrieb Michael Meeks:
[ given the vast disparity in time-to-file (1 minute) vs.
time-to-fix (5 man days avg) ]
...in correlation with 1 developer investing 5 days to fix it vs.
maybe hundreds, thousands or
I think there's a dangerous perception here: The perception that the LO
developers work on nothing except what they want to work on.
I'm pretty sure that that is very false. They work on LO because they
want to work on LO, and they probably choose what to work on based on
at least the following:
CC'ing the website list because it is about the website, but I'm not
subscribed, so please CC me on replies if you really want to discuss
this complaint.
On 2013-11-12 5:53 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com wrote:
The problem of course is that there is no queue of bugs-to-fix. We
Paul,
Just completing Pedro's answers inline...
Le Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:23:31 -0800 (PST),
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Paul-6 wrote
I think there's a dangerous perception here: The perception that
the LO developers work on nothing except what they want to work on.
I didn't mean to
On 2013-11-12 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
How do I just log into the bug reporting system and search it? Anyone?
Ok, so I just decided to go ahead and go through the submission process,
and afterwards was finally able to search. I didn't find any similar
bugs, so I
On 11/11/2013 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
After using LO for awhile, I found and filed a couple of bugs/issues. I
wanted to contribute in the area of reporting issues, but I don't have
the knowledge to fix them. I didn't expect those problems to go to the
head of the line. But I *did*
On 2013-11-12 9:53 AM, Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Tanstaafl,
LibreOffice is using freedesktop.org infrastructure for bug
management software and code repository.
Ok, this doesn't help me any, but ok... ;)
How do I just log into the bug reporting system and
Hi Charles
Tanstaafl wrote
That would help for that one issue, but I still don't have a clue how to
log into the bug system and work with bugs...
You are right that the current documentation won't take you there :)
Go to
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
and click on Log In (second item from
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
CC'ing the website list because it is about the website, but I'm not
subscribed, so please CC me on replies if you really want to discuss this
complaint.
I've also cc'd the QA team (who manage/work on the bugtracker,
Hi :)
Something that often annoys me is that we seem to ignore all the work
of all the devs who are paid to work on LibreOffice.
I thought something like 10%-20% of devs are employed by various
companies, governments and other organisations? The advantage for the
organisations, companies and
Hi Tanstaafl,
LibreOffice is using freedesktop.org infrastructure for bug management
software and code repository.
How do I just log into the bug reporting system and search it? Anyone?
This is a list of all LibreOffice
On 11/12/2013 2:39 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Here's the fault with this logic.
I'm going to up the number of people for bug B just for illustrating
my point.
50 people have issues with bug A. 5 people have issues with bug B.
Extrapolate... 5 people with bug C, 5 with D, all the way though
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:02:08 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
Changes are one animal, fixes are another.
Sometimes (often?) a fix entails a change...
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:26:25 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
What told me I was being ignored, and essentially my issues were not
critical, is the fact they were never assigned to anyone for fixing,
and labeled as such.
So you're upset because your issues were not considered
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:26:25 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
Maybe there should be a queue, and fixed on a FIFO basis.
That would be a terrible idea, at least without some prioritisation.
Otherwise you'd have periods of just catching up on myriad small bugs
while big issues languish.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:23:31 -0800 (PST)
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
First, it's not *my* bug. The bug is the software. The software is
not mine.
Well said, and very true.
Third, there is nothing forcing him to work on anything but what he
wants to is exactly the problem IMO.
Sure, but it
On 11/12/2013 6:24 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/12/13 4:35 PM, John Meyer wrote:
On 11/12/2013 3:02 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/12/13 8:50 AM, John Meyer wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
After using LO for awhile, I found and filed a couple of
bugs/issues. I
wanted to
Hello Alex,
Le Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:05:46 +0100,
Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com a écrit :
Le 10/11/2013 19:46, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Hi Charles,
Whilst I appreciate the effort in designing such a survey and the
objective behind it, I too, must admit that the survey was not
Hi Urmas,
So - I don't really understand your mail, which is a shame.
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 07:23 +0700, Urmas wrote:
The only way users can contribute is when they are paying.
Surely you're a user - and you contribute with bug filing, triage, and
other QA things which are much
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:33:43 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
What I didn't like was being told my issues were not important. BS!
It's important to me.
If it's important to you, you can fund a developer to work on it for
you, or work on it yourself. If not, then unfortunately the
Hello Ken,
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com a écrit :
Hi, Charles,
On 11/11/13 4:19 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Hello Alex,
Le Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:05:46 +0100,
Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com a écrit :
Le 10/11/2013 19:46, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Hi Charles,
Whilst I appreciate
Paul, everyone,
Le 2013-11-11 21:18, Paul a écrit :
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:33:43 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
What I didn't like was being told my issues were not important. BS!
It's important to me.
If it's important to you, you can fund a developer to work on it for
you, or
wanted!!!
-Original Message-
From: Charles-H. Schulz [mailto:charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:09 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the
survey
Hello Ken,
Ken Springer snowsh
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:.
On 11/10/13 9:11 PM, Ady wrote:
There are many ways for users to communicate: LibreOffice forum, Ask
LibreOffice, several LibreOffice mailing lists, Nabble, wiki,
Bugzilla, and several irc channels. The problem is, IMHO, they are
sometimes too many and
Please can somebody ban him for bad language?
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:35:01 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
Charles-H. Schulz:
Also, it might be useful to remember that developers tend to
contribute because they only want to and find a particular interest in
doing so. Maybe it's for
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