Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-24 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/22/2013 06:49 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask SERVICENAME.service

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-23 Thread poma
On 23.06.2013 04:45, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/22/2013 06:49 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2013 04:45, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 06/22/2013 06:49 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask SERVICENAME.service -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-22 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask SERVICENAME.service Thank you, that would work if there was a service called md, but

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/22/2013 06:49 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/21/2013 09:19 PM, lee wrote: And how would I disable it? Mdmonitor is stopped and disabled, and md is still running. systemctl stop SERVICENAME.service systemctl mask SERVICENAME.service Thank you, that would work if

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-21 Thread lee
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 19.06.2013 17:01, schrieb lee: Look at pulseaudio, for example. It can be useful *if* you actually have use for features it provides --- which I don't most do Do you have any evidence for that? It's like installing all available packages

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-21 Thread Tim
Reindl Harald: irqbalance is a daemon that evenly distributes IRQ load across multiple CPUs for enhanced performance. lee: That's what it claims, but does it really? Okay, if you really want to know, it's a subversive program by the TLA to infiltrate computers in Iraq... -- [tim@localhost

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-21 Thread lee
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 21.06.2013 08:39, schrieb lee: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 19.06.2013 17:01, schrieb lee: Look at pulseaudio, for example. It can be useful *if* you actually have use for features it provides --- which I don't most do

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-21 Thread lee
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 18.06.2013 04:41, schrieb lee: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: As long as the drive itself is working, there's a way to recover the data, although there may well not be an easy or fast way. Imagine the power supply would fail so that I can't

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.06.2013 17:01, schrieb lee: Look at pulseaudio, for example. It can be useful *if* you actually have use for features it provides --- which I don't most do It's like installing all available packages just because they exist. no Why is md running? I'm not using software raid.

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-19 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/17/2013 07:21 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/16/2013 07:09 PM, lee wrote: Just think it through and then explain to me how it would make sense to dedicate (a part of the limited) resources to have mcelog constantly running. [...]

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-18 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 06/18/2013 12:41 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/17/2013 07:21 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/16/2013 07:09 PM, lee wrote: Just think it through and then explain to me how it would make sense to dedicate (a part of the limited) resources to have mcelog constantly running.

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.06.2013 04:41, schrieb lee: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: As long as the drive itself is working, there's a way to recover the data, although there may well not be an easy or fast way. Imagine the power supply would fail so that I can't read logfiles anymore. What do I do? Fix

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2013 02:25, schrieb lee: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/15/2013 08:40 PM, lee wrote: When the hardware has gone so bad that I can't start mcelog anymore, I very likely can't retrieve information from the logfiles, either, without fixing the problem first. As long as it's

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
? such things are done with SAN-storages with typically *two* conrollers for failover, if you rely on *one* single controller and nothing else can read your RAID you should hire someone with knowledge but what the hell has this to do with mcelog.service since nobody but you is using 10 SAS disks local

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
this thread with is the mcelog.service of any use to me? people explained you why it *could* be useable why do you ask if you are knowing it better? so disable it and stop trolling is it really that hard? P.S.: and do not forget to disable a couple of other services which are not hardly needed

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
for others because they have spare controllers or not using hardware RAID and if *you* do not need mcelog.service disable it and stop your uselles discussion why *you* can not read logfiles if your system does not boot, others can hence in professional environment you even use the --syslog option

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread lee
to constantly check some logfile. Which logfile that is, is not even documented. It might be /var/log/syslog when you look at the mcelog.service file. Lots of things are being logged there, and I usually don't look at that unless something isn't working. I could make something that greps

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/16/2013 07:09 PM, lee wrote: Just think it through and then explain to me how it would make sense to dedicate (a part of the limited) resources to have mcelog constantly running. I take it, then, that you've either never heard of logrotate or have some

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: As long as the drive itself is working, there's a way to recover the data, although there may well not be an easy or fast way. Imagine the power supply would fail so that I can't read logfiles anymore. What do I do? Fix the hardware right away or waste a week or

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/17/2013 07:21 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/16/2013 07:09 PM, lee wrote: Just think it through and then explain to me how it would make sense to dedicate (a part of the limited) resources to have mcelog constantly running. I take it, then, that you've either never

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/17/2013 07:41 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: As long as the drive itself is working, there's a way to recover the data, although there may well not be an easy or fast way. Imagine the power supply would fail so that I can't read logfiles anymore. What do I do? Fix the

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/15/2013 08:40 PM, lee wrote: When the hardware has gone so bad that I can't start mcelog anymore, I very likely can't retrieve information from the logfiles, either, without fixing the problem first. As long as it's not the drive itself that went bad you can always connect it to

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/15/2013 08:40 PM, lee wrote: When the hardware has gone so bad that I can't start mcelog anymore, I very likely can't retrieve information from the logfiles, either, without fixing the problem first. As long as it's not the drive itself that went bad you

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/16/2013 05:25 PM, lee wrote: Where would I find a working computer which I could use and which has the same or at least a compatible hardware RAID controller to connect the drives to? Are you saying that you have the only computer in the world with that hardware? If so, you have only

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 06/16/2013 05:25 PM, lee wrote: Where would I find a working computer which I could use and which has the same or at least a compatible hardware RAID controller to connect the drives to? Are you saying that you have the only computer in the world with that

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
RAID you should hire someone with knowledge Yay, sure, I'll send you the bills. but what the hell has this to do with mcelog.service It seems to be part of an attempt, directed by invalid assumptions, to explain how running mcelog all the time might be useful. since nobody but you is using 10

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
to have mcelog constantly running *you* started this thread with is the mcelog.service of any use to me? people explained you why it *could* be useable No, they explained what it is supposed to do and made invalid assumptions. Their point seems to be that it could be useful for instances when

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Where would I find a working computer which I could use and which has the same or at least a compatible hardware RAID controller to connect the drives to? In this situation I'd be much more concerned about all the data I lost

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
can read your disks I haven't said that anywhere. - this is usually *not* true for others because they have spare controllers or not using hardware RAID and if *you* do not need mcelog.service disable it and stop your uselles discussion why *you* can not read logfiles if your system does

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread lee
T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Where would I find a working computer which I could use and which has the same or at least a compatible hardware RAID controller to connect the drives to? In this situation

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/16/2013 06:44 PM, lee wrote: Are you assuming that most ppl using Linux have fallback systems with independent internet connections and emergency power generators standing by that automatically take over seamlessly when something with their used system or around it fails? I can't speak

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/16/2013 07:09 PM, lee wrote: Just think it through and then explain to me how it would make sense to dedicate (a part of the limited) resources to have mcelog constantly running. I take it, then, that you've either never heard of logrotate or have some reason not to use it. -- users

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/16/2013 07:52 PM, lee wrote: No, they explained what it is supposed to do and made invalid assumptions. Their point seems to be that it could be useful for instances when the logged output of mcelog helps you to figure out what might be wrong with your hardware. Have you considered the

mcelog.service

2013-06-15 Thread lee
Hi, is the mcelog.service of any use to me? There's a package mcelog-1.0-0.6.6e4e2a00.fc18.x86_64 installed and listed as a leave by package-cleanup, the service is running; /var/log/mce doesn't exist (which is probably good). In which way would it help me to log such errors if there were any

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:55:53 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hi, is the mcelog.service of any use to me? Yes, if you want to know about potential hardware problems cpu the service is running; /var/log/mce doesn't exist (which is probably good). It doesn't use it's own log

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-15 Thread lee
Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:55:53 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hi, is the mcelog.service of any use to me? Yes, if you want to know about potential hardware problems cpu Wouldn't it make much more sense to run this service only when

Re: mcelog.service

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/15/2013 12:21 PM, lee wrote: Well, I usually don't do that, so what's the point in running this service all the time? Once your hardware's going bad it may be too late to start it, and having it always running may help you learn (if it matters) when things started going bad. (You may