Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 09:16 +1000, Res wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: This is wrong. if you have evidence, show it. if not, stop spreading rumours. I have delisted an IP in the past, and I have been watching people trying to delist a block but without clues on

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Wed, June 24, 2009 13:59, Per Jessen wrote: Blacklisting a large and serious hosting provider is just not serious and very bad for business. Benny Pedersen wrote: http://rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=yahoo.com http://rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=hotmail.com

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Res
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: Personally I have mixed views on charging for delisting. In some instances it would be appropriate and I would not dismiss it out of hand. Certainly for repeat offenders I think it would be highly desirable. Agreed, its one wya to make the

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs (was: new spam using large images)

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Jason Haar wrote: Speaking of image/rtf/word attachment spam; is there any work going on to standardize this so that the textual output of such attachments could be fed back into SA? On 24.06.09 19:33, Jonas Eckerman wrote: Just as a note: I'm currently working on a modular plugin for

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:41 +1000, Res wrote: if you jump on a bandwagon without first hand experience, thats *exactly* what you are, if you had experienced it first hand of course you become an authority on the subject in your your case, and your opinion matters as factual, but you by your

URLs with Spaces

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Hearn
Hello, I'm wondering if I'm missing some rules that would have given this message more points - I know it's missing bayes (I'm not sure why as our servers should use bayes, but it seems not to have been run for this message.) http://www.pastebin.ca/1473975 Thanks -- Andrew.

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Res
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:41 +1000, Res wrote: if you jump on a bandwagon without first hand experience, thats *exactly* what you are, if you had experienced it first hand of course you become an authority on the subject in your your case, and

Re: URLs with Spaces

2009-06-25 Thread Kasper Sacharias Eenberg
There's been a rule circulating this mailing list for a couple of weeks. This is the latest edition to catch those med-things (afaik). -- body AE_MEDS35 /\bwww\s(?:\W\s)?\w{3,6}\d{2,6}\s(?:\W\s)?(?:c\s?o \s?m|n\s?e\s?t|o\s?r\s?g)\b/i describe AE_MEDS35 obfuscated domain in message

Permissions Issues

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
A routine look in the logs shows me a steady warn in the logs. It's probably harmless - but I would like to solve it for tidiness: Thu Jun 18 16:45:21 2009 [12663] warn: config: created user preferences file: /var/lib/spamassassin/.spamassassin/user_prefs Tue Jun 23 16:58:42 2009 [13778] warn:

How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Mason
For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j.

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 18:24 +1000, Res wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:41 +1000, Res wrote: if you jump on a bandwagon without first hand experience, thats *exactly* what you are, if you had experienced it first hand of course you

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 24-Jun-2009, at 08:20, Roger Marquis wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ -- There is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 03:08 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 24-Jun-2009, at 08:20, Roger Marquis wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ Webmin? http://www.webmin.com/

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:00 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: 2) I didn't include free email providers in my list of large and serious hosting providers - I was thinking more of organisations such as 1and1, hetzner, rackspace etc. etc. My

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2009 13:59, Per Jessen wrote: 3) I wouldn't refer to rfc-ignorant as a blacklist - nobody with half a brain would block email just because of RFC ignorance on the part of the sender. Why not? I do that and intentionally - I don't like

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
Arvid Picciani wrote: serious hosting providers - I was thinking more of organisations such as 1and1, hetzner, rackspace etc. etc. whats the issue with hetzner? I'm a customer so i'd be very interested in any spam issue not beeing processed by them. There is no issue with Hetzner. Read

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:00 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: 2) I didn't include free email providers in my list of large and serious hosting providers - I was thinking more of

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:00 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: 2) I didn't include free email providers in my list of large and serious hosting providers - I

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 02:44, Justin Mason wrote: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this If moving away from 5.6 makes SA better

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 03:22, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 03:08 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 24-Jun-2009, at 08:20, Roger Marquis wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ Webmin? http://www.webmin.com/ I've

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j. Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Jan P. Kessler schrieb: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j. Don't know if

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2009 13:59, Per Jessen wrote: 3) I wouldn't refer to rfc-ignorant as a blacklist - nobody with half a brain would block email just because of RFC ignorance on the part of the sender. Why not? I do that and intentionally - I don't

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 03:55, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:00 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: 2) I didn't include free email providers in my list of large and serious

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 04:15, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname -a SunOS mailhub 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250 # perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for sun4-solaris 5.00? snigger ;) -- Instant karma's going to get you!

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Yet Another Ninja
Could this thread be moved to spam-l ? Seems it has little to do with SA

Re: more freemail domains: tunome.com

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 23-Jun-2009, at 06:31, McDonald, Dan wrote: Guess I'd best make a list... Share? -- We all need help with our feelings. Otherwise, we bottle them up, and before you know it powerful laxatives are involved.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:21:25PM +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Jan P. Kessler schrieb: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does,

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Henrik K schrieb: sorry, just missed the relatively recent statement ;-) When the system gets old enough that it's not supported officially and you are forced to manually CPAN fresh modules (and possibly wreak havoc on the OS), there is no reason not to compile your own perl (or upgrade

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:15, Jan P. Kesslersal...@jpkessler.info wrote: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version.  If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight

Re: I have an SA problem with Thunderbird.

2009-06-25 Thread Stefan
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 22:41:00 Steven W. Orr wrote: On 06/24/09 16:15, quoth René Berber: Steven W. Orr wrote: [snip] There is something close: have you seen the Habu plugin? Its used to report spam (to SpamCop for instance), it works by sending anything you marked as spam as

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2. Some people are even still

Re: URLs with Spaces

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Hearn
Kasper Sacharias Eenberg wrote: There's been a rule circulating this mailing list for a couple of weeks. This is the latest edition to catch those med-things (afaik). -- body AE_MEDS35 /\bwww\s(?:\W\s)?\w{3,6}\d{2,6}\s(?:\W\s)?(?:c\s?o \s?m|n\s?e\s?t|o\s?r\s?g)\b/i describe

Re: Permissions Issues

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 10:35, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: A routine look in the logs shows me a steady warn in the logs. It's probably harmless - but I would like to solve it for tidiness: Thu Jun 18 16:45:21 2009 [12663] warn: config: created user preferences file:

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 11:08, LuKreme wrote: On 24-Jun-2009, at 08:20, Roger Marquis wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ yes freebsd does not have the above problem :) -- xpoint

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I'm currently working on a modular plugin for extracting text and add it to SA message parts. if possible, extract images too, so the fuzzyocr and similar plugins would be able to look at that too. You meen extract images and add them as parts to the message?

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 11:22, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 03:08 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 24-Jun-2009, at 08:20, Roger Marquis wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ Webmin? http://www.webmin.com/ i

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 12:14, LuKreme wrote: I've used webmin, and have it installed. It is not luser friendly though. http://www.webmin.com/index6.html usermin is for you then :) -- xpoint

Filter Backscatter via DNSBL

2009-06-25 Thread Felix Buenemann
Hi, I'd like to filter out backscatter with the DNSBL from ips.backscatterer.org. In order not to filter out legitimate mails, but only NDA noise and stuff, I want to limit it to mails with blank envelope from (MAIL FROM: ) or envelope from postmaster (MAIL FROM: postmas...@example.com). I'm not

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Res
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: 1. It's 'You're' a joke - not 'your' a joke Ah the classic sign of someone in defeat, has to nit pick someones grammer 2. You could always try setting up your Mickey Mouse 'blocked using dnsbl.lan' restriction so it works properly LOL.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Pepper
How long will this go before Godwin's law finally kicks in? Now I'm just watching for the fun of it . Quoting Res r...@ausics.net: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: 1. It's 'You're' a joke - not 'your' a joke Ah the classic sign of someone in defeat, has to nit pick

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 15:08, Res wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: Actually, you were first blocked by a milter because your SPF record contains junk get someone with a clue to set it up for you http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html?mydomain=buzzhost.co.uksubmit=Go!

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Ned Slider
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 14:56, Henrik K wrote: I'm just not sure why ask in the first place. Perl 5.6.1 is old. Anyone using such system most likely has no support. Anyone using such perl most likely shouldn't be allowed to use it. You could be already fixing the code and not waiting. ;) old

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
Henrik K wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
2009/6/25 Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk: Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime. The less change, the more uptime. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.06.09 12:38, Yet Another Ninja wrote: Could this thread be moved to spam-l ? Seems it has little to do with SA spam-l was closed iirc ;-) -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie:

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25-Jun-2009, at 04:15, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname -a SunOS mailhub 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250 # perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for sun4-solaris On 25.06.09 04:37, LuKreme wrote: 5.00? snigger 5.005

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread DAve
Jack Pepper wrote: How long will this go before Godwin's law finally kicks in? Now I'm just watching for the fun of it . Yea, this is why when my bosses ask where I get my information I tell them from a closed forum. If they read the adolescent ramblings that got posted on email/spam

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 6/25/2009 4:12 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 25.06.09 12:38, Yet Another Ninja wrote: Could this thread be moved to spam-l ? Seems it has little to do with SA spam-l was closed iirc ;-) yes and no it was taken over and its nice busy http://spam-l.com/mailman/listinfo

Got one!

2009-06-25 Thread Diffenderfer, Randy
Seems like it's gonna cost some of the big boys a little coin... http://detroit.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/de062209.htm Let's hope there are more indictments where these came from! rnd

rudimentary gibberish

2009-06-25 Thread Isabel Billings
stopwatch sussex trait warmup sporadic

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:11, Per Jessenp...@computer.org wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime.  The

Re: rudimentary gibberish

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 18:14, Isabel Billings wrote: stopwatch sussex trait warmup sporadic Resent-From: Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net Resent-To: spamassassin-users users@spamassassin.apache.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:43:41 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: 4a438d1d.3070...@syslang.net

Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Jeremy Morton
I recently got this spam that made its way thru SpamAssassin: http://pastebin.ca/1474274 Looks like it was received from mail.apache.org which is in the DNSWL.org DB, unsurprisingly. Why would mail.apache.org send out this obvious spam? Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez)

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Jonas Eckerman wrote: You meen extract images and add them as parts to the message? I guess that should be doable. I know that unrtf can extract images from RTF files. I'll probably implement support for this, but I'll probably not implement actually doing it right away. This'll probably

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Jeremy Morton
To reply to myself I guess that was sent to the spamassassin.apache.org list and the list was BCC'd so it didn't get put into my list folder. Ah well. Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez) Jeremy Morton wrote: I recently got this spam that made its way thru SpamAssassin:

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 17:10, Jeremy Morton wrote: Looks like it was received from mail.apache.org which is in the DNSWL.org DB, unsurprisingly. Why would mail.apache.org send out this obvious spam? blame mozilla thunderbird for the resent headers, the problem is that one user release

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread jp
My oldest server has 5.8, and it's a really out of date box. My newest out-of-date box has 5.8.8-36 (opensuse 10.2). Antispam and email is a fast changing technology (compared to other server things like file and print and http), so I see no reason why people should try to adapt an old system

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 17:20, Jeremy Morton wrote: I guess that was sent to the spamassassin.apache.org list and the list was BCC'd so it didn't get put into my list folder. Ah well. with sieve: if header :contains List-Id users.spamassassin.apache.org { fileinto maillists.spamassassin; stop;

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I'm currently working on a modular plugin for extracting text and add it to SA message parts. if possible, extract images too, so the fuzzyocr and similar plugins would be able to look at that too. You meen extract images and add them as parts to the

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomasuh...@fantomas.sk wrote: I am not sure but I think something alike was done. What I mean is to have generic chain of format converters, where at the end would be plain image or even text, that could be processed by classic rules like

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread SM
At 08:10 25-06-2009, Jeremy Morton wrote: I recently got this spam that made its way thru SpamAssassin: [non-persistent information snipped] Looks like it was received from mail.apache.org which is in the DNSWL.org DB, unsurprisingly. Why would mail.apache.org send out this obvious spam?

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 17:56, SM wrote: What rules would you recommend to catch it? something as this on apache.org: header __RESENT1 exists:Resent-From header __RESENT2 exists:Resent-To header __RESENT3 exists:Resent-Date header __RESENT4 exists:Resent-Message-Id meta NO_RESENT_MAIL

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: This I don't understand. Do they put PDFs inside .doc files as if the ..doc was an archive? I am not sure but I think something alike was done. Considering that an OpenXML format is basically a zip file with XML files inside and that the actual document can

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Per Jessen wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime. The less change, the more uptime. As far

cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread John Hardin
Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 --

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Theo Van Dinter wrote: I am not sure but I think something alike was done. What I mean is to have generic chain of format converters, where at the end would be plain image or even text, that could be processed by classic rules like bayes, replacetags etc. Already exists, check recent list

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? Yep. I wish backscatter.org had a reporting and educating form. Ie automaticaly inform the postmaster of that system of the listing incuding educational material how to fix it.

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
Jack Pepper wrote: How long will this go before Godwin's law finally kicks in? It already did. 1. It's 'You're' a joke - not 'your' a joke Now I'm just watching for the fun of it Try IRC :-P

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:09, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? here i have seen 25 of this bouncers, i have added his sender ip into postfwd client_address until its resolved, i

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:09 -0700, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. -- char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4; main(){ char

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:09, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? here i have seen 25 of this bouncers, i have added his sender ip into

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:34, John Hardin wrote: Sure, but that doesn't help anybody else that posts to the list. it will if admins at remote read there logs, but yes we can only wait now -- xpoint

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread SM
At 09:13 25-06-2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: something as this on apache.org: header __RESENT1 exists:Resent-From header __RESENT2 exists:Resent-To header __RESENT3 exists:Resent-Date header __RESENT4 exists:Resent-Message-Id meta NO_RESENT_MAIL (__RESENT1 __RESENT2 __RESENT3 __RESENT4)

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:32 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) -- char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4; main(){ char

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, SM wrote: At 09:13 25-06-2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: something as this on apache.org: header __RESENT1 exists:Resent-From header __RESENT2 exists:Resent-To header __RESENT3 exists:Resent-Date header __RESENT4 exists:Resent-Message-Id meta NO_RESENT_MAIL (__RESENT1

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:48, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:32 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) so now thay using postfix ?, fixing valid recipient maps is

Re: Apache.org spam??

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:48, John Hardin wrote: I point out that I've had legitimate reason in the past to resend messages to the SA list. test my rules better, will it hit a resend from you ? :) well repost is not a resend, so it might still not hit -- xpoint

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) so now thay using postfix ?, fixing valid recipient maps is dangerous :) What are you talking about, Benny? The ASF admins have removed the offending address from the list's subscribers. Anyway, this horse is now dead. Please stop

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread J.D. Falk
DAve wrote: Jack Pepper wrote: How long will this go before Godwin's law finally kicks in? Now I'm just watching for the fun of it . Yea, this is why when my bosses ask where I get my information I tell them from a closed forum. If they read the adolescent ramblings that got posted on

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jonas Eckermanjonas_li...@frukt.org wrote: Already exists, check recent list history for set_rendered. I though that was for text only. It is only for text. In any case, any plugin looking for images, or a PDF, will most likely look at MIME type and/or file

Re: rudimentary gibberish

2009-06-25 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Isabel Billings wrote: Received: from syslang.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.syslang.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5PEGcRM032298; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:16:39 -0400 Received: from domenico32832c ([217.202.8.48]) by

Re: Got one!

2009-06-25 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Diffenderfer, Randy wrote: Seems like it's gonna cost some of the big boys a little coin... http://detroit.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/de062209.htm Let's hope there are more indictments where these came from! rnd Yes, but Ralsky's been making millions for years, a

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Theo Van Dinter wrote: I would comment that plugins should probably skip parts they want to render that already has rendered text available. Ah. That's a good idea. Now I'll have to search for a nice way to check that. :-) I can't see how set_rendered would help in creating a fucntioning

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 05:20, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2. Some people are even still using 3.1.

Re: Got one!

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 13:20, David B Funk wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Diffenderfer, Randy wrote: Seems like it's gonna cost some of the big boys a little coin... http://detroit.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/de062209.htm Let's hope there are more indictments where these came from! Yes, but

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Arvid Picciani wrote: I started blocking some backscattering hosts and would like to inform them how to fix the issue. I still welcome suggestions for handling the few remaining cases where my procmail chokes on a mailbox limit. Probably more of a PM question than an SA

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:34, John Hardin wrote: Sure, but that doesn't help anybody else that posts to the list. it will if admins at remote read there logs, but yes we can only wait now If they do, they don't act very quickly. I've been rejecting

Re: Plugin extracting text from docs

2009-06-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jonas Eckermanjonas_li...@frukt.org wrote: Matus example was a Word document that contained as PDF wich (might in turn contain an image). A plugin that knows how to read word document could extract th text of the word document and then use set_rendered to make

Re: A difficult one to weed out?

2009-06-25 Thread Roger Marquis
LuKreme wrote: PLUGPostConf http://www.postconf.com for example./PLUG Looks interesting, but not FreBSD demo :/ Waiting only for a postfix port with an overwrites-base option. The code itself works with any postfix home directory. Roger Marquis

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not a binary, it's a balancing act. Live updates don't remove risk, they

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 6/25/2009 11:27 PM, John Rudd wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not a binary, it's a balancing

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
Well, the point is that if it works, don't break it. Yes, you can totally avoid upgrades, depending on your environment. Sometimes you have no choice and continue to run old versions of software or firmware or ... Get over it. :) If you want to continue debating system administration issues,

backscatter (was Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?)

2009-06-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Arvid Picciani wrote: I started blocking some backscattering hosts and would like to inform them how to fix the issue. I still welcome suggestions for handling the few remaining cases where my procmail chokes on a mailbox limit. Probably more of a

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 6/25/2009 11:27 PM, John Rudd wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 14:41, moussmo...@ml.netoyen.net wrote: James Wilkinson a écrit : If you mean “IP address that should not have been in the PBL but was”, that’s one thing. It’s a consistent definition, but not very useful for stopping spam. yes, the PBL may list blocks that contain

Re: SORBS bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread mouss
James Wilkinson a écrit : mouss wrote (about the PBL): stop spreading FUD. if you know of false positives, show us so that we see what you exactly mean. a lot of people, including $self, use the PBL at smtp time. As usual, it depends on your definition of “false positive”. fully agreed.

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