amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Maccie Roux

Hi there.  I'm getting the following in my maillog, can someone please help
me:

postfix/qmgr[25394]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis: 
Connection refused


Thanks
Maccie Roux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Leander Koornneef


On 17-nov-2006, at 9:26, Maccie Roux wrote:

Hi there.  I'm getting the following in my maillog, can someone  
please help

me:

postfix/qmgr[25394]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis:  
Connection refused


Well, that is about as clear as a warning can get. What don't you  
understand about it?


Leander


Re: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Matthias Haegele

Leander Koornneef schrieb:


On 17-nov-2006, at 9:26, Maccie Roux wrote:

Hi there.  I'm getting the following in my maillog, can someone please 
help

me:

postfix/qmgr[25394]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis: 
Connection refused


Well, that is about as clear as a warning can get. What don't you 
understand about it?


;-). (Yes i wish all sw would provide such ideal logging).
Try telnet to the amavis-port (you configured it in master.cf/main.cf, 
amavisd.conf).

Is amavisd running, are you able to connect?
Any typos in your config?


Leander


hth
MH



RE: FuzzyOCR question

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
  I'm brainstorming here tonight and I'm curious of 
 something.  When 
 you're using FuzzyOCR, is it called for every message that goes 
 through SA, 
 or just ones with gif attachments?

FuzzyOcr is invoked on every image on a message whenever the message itself 
doesn't reach a score threshold by other means.

Ie: if a spam is detected as such before running FuzzyOcr, the latter is not 
invoked.

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Re: MailScanner not using /usr/share/spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Martin Hepworth

Peter H. Lemieux wrote:
OK, I've ransacked mailing lists for over an hour now and have yet to 
find an answer to this question.


Until a couple of months ago I was running SA 2.64 under MailScanner 
4.36.4, both installed from RPMs on a RedHat 7.3 system.  I've been 
migrating to a CentOS 4.4 box running SA 3.1.7 and MailScanner 4.56.8, 
both again installed from RPMs.


I began to get suspicious about the new installation when I ran a couple 
of spams through spamassassin -t.  Rules like DATE_IN_PAST showed up 
in those tests, but they didn't get tripped when the message was scanned 
by SA under MailScanner.  It looked as though MailScanner was simply 
ignoring the default rules in /usr/share/spamassassin.  A few scans of 
maillog for some of the default rule names didn't show any hits over a 
period of weeks.  For instance, there are no log entries in the new 
installation for commonly-hit rules like 'HTML_[0-9]+' or 'DATE_IN'.


Except... I do get hits for the URIBL rules in 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf.  A locate dnsbl search 
doesn't turn up any other copies of these rules in the directory tree.


So I tried an experiment based on the approach described in 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.virus.mailscanner/4499 of running 
spamassassin -D --lint -C /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.rules.conf 
and the output showed that only /etc/mail/spamassassin was used.  I also 
get a lot of non-existent rule errors that don't appear if I just run 
spamassassin -D --lint.  Running a normal lint without the config file 
specified shows rules being read from both /etc/mail/spamassassin and 
/usr/share/spamassassin.


I've looked all over the system to see if I can find some setting that 
differentiates between these two situations.  I've even tried it with an 
empty /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.rules.conf.  I've looked in places 
like /root/.spamassassin, /var/spool/MailScanner/spamassassin, and the 
like, and can't find anything that would divert SA from using 
/usr/share/spamassassin when invoked by MailScanner.


I read a bunch of postings to the MailScanner list and found nothing 
helpful.  My next step is to run MailScanner in debugging mode, I guess, 
but I'd prefer not to have to interrupt production.  If any of you have 
any clues about what my problem is, I'd appreciate it.  If not, I off to 
debugging land.


Peter

Peter

one for the MailScanner list really

but in MaiLScanner.conf what's your setting for SpamAssassin Local 
State Dir, but as SA is displaying the same simptoms when run outside 
of MailScanner it could be something wrong with the 
spam.assassin.rules.conf settings.


BTW /etc/mail/spamassassin/mailscanner.cf should now be a symbolic to 
spam.assassin.rules.conf so you shouldn't need to put in in -C when 
running spamassassin from the command line anymore.


I'd ask on the IRC channel or mailscanner email list as it sounds like 
your install has problems...


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bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread jeaspam
Hi List
It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
spamassassin?

Do you think that this procedure is good?

 __
(Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
 | it's spam?|
 |__|
 (no, goes to)
|
|
|
   (spamassassin)-(move the message 
to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

How do I do it?

Thanks

JeAn 


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Re: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Mark Martinec

  postfix/qmgr[25394]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis:
  Connection refused
 
  Well, that is about as clear as a warning can get. What don't you
  understand about it?

 Is amavisd running, are you able to connect?
 Any typos in your config?

This warning is not about amavisd daemon not being there,
but about a Postfix service smtp-amavis not being there.
A smtp-amavis service is to be defined in master.cf,
see README.postfix.

  Mark


Re: Thoughts on using DCC

2006-11-17 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Friday 17 November 2006 02:44, Chris wrote:
 On Thursday 16 November 2006 9:21 am, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
  So basically you're right and I haven't added anything. What I can add is
  that I don't use DCC myself, for precisely the aforementioned reason,
  i.e. that it requires to much fiddling with mailing lists.

 If you happen to be running procmail its easy to have your list mail
 processed into the correct folders before spamassassin is even called.

Not so easy if you call SpamAssassin after end of DATA to be able to reject 
spam at SMTP time...

-- 
Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks)


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Re: Rules Du Jour briken?

2006-11-17 Thread twofers
Being as the link http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour is still 
down, could someone that uses Rules Du Jour take a look at this other link to 
some Rules Du Jour stuff and let me know if you think this site contains valid 
info / process or not for installing RDJ?
   
  Am I just being to cautious?

  
http://www.5dollarwhitebox.org/wiki/index.php/Howtos_Spam_Assassin_Rules_Du_Jour_Configuration
   
  Thanks for checking it out.
   
  Wes
  
twofers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.5dollarwhitebox.org/wiki/index.php/Howtos_Spam_Assassin_Rules_Du_Jour_Configuration
   
  Forgot it...
   
  Then what about this link to a RDJ ?
   
  Is it valid? I don't want to mistakenly put something on my server that will 
give me problems.
   
  Wes

twofers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then what about this link to a RDJ ?
   
  Is it valid? I don't want to mistakenly put something on my server that will 
give me problems.
   
  Wes

Raquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:28:06 -0500
Chris Santerre wrote:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:51 PM
  To: twofers
  Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Rules Du Jour briken?
  
  
  twofers wrote:
   Is this link having problems that anyone knows of?
   
   http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour
   
   I can't get to Rules Du Jour.
  
  
  Actually, the whole exit0.us site doesnt work.
 
 Its been down for almost 2 weeks. I thought it would come back up,
 but it may be gone for good :( 
 
 --Chris
 

Then what do we do for rule updates?

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Re: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Matthias Haegele

Mark Martinec schrieb:

postfix/qmgr[25394]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis:
Connection refused

Well, that is about as clear as a warning can get. What don't you
understand about it?

Is amavisd running, are you able to connect?
Any typos in your config?


This warning is not about amavisd daemon not being there,
but about a Postfix service smtp-amavis not being there.
A smtp-amavis service is to be defined in master.cf,
see README.postfix.


i bet its a typo ...
(Something similar happened here not long ago i was overlooking an 
additional 0 in master.cf, in smtp-amavis definition ...)



  Mark


thx
for your correction
MH



Re: bayes_seen on MySQL, growing and growing

2006-11-17 Thread Paolo Cravero

Jim Maul wrote:

I dont use mysql with SA, but you should be able to use truncate instead 
of delete.  It may very well be faster with all those rows.


From MySQL 4.x manual:

For InnoDB, TRUNCATE TABLE  is mapped to DELETE, so there is no 
difference.


We're using InnoDB rather than MyISAM, so there's apparently no big 
difference. It doesn't free disk space, though, so an OPTIMIZE TABLE 
should be issued.


Still no input from developers/maintainers can I empty the 
bayes_seen table without breaking DB consistency?


Thanks,
Paolo


MIMEHeader question

2006-11-17 Thread Jeremy Fairbrass
Hi all,
I have a question about the MIMEHeader plugin: if I have multiple mimeheader 
rules, are they all checked against the same part in a multipart message?

So let me give an example:

Let's say an email has 2 separate mime header sections (perhaps one is TXT 
and the other is HTML, or perhap there are 2 file attachments, or whatever). 
They might look like this:

--=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7099B.069AFD30
Content-Type: image/gif;
 name=Blank Bkgrd.gif
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--=_NextPart_001_0063_01C7099B.069AFD30
Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Then let's say I have a couple of mimeheader rules as follows:

mimeheader  __RULE1  Content-Type =~ /image\/gif/
mimeheader  __RULE2  Content-Transfer-Encoding =~ /quoted-printable/
meta  MY_META_RULE  (RULE1  RULE2)

My question is, will the meta rule trigger, or not? Because as you can see, 
only the first mime header section contains Content-Type: image/gif, and 
only the second mime header section contains Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
quoted-printable. So are my two mimeheader rules being run against each 
header section separately from each other, or are they only run against the 
header sections together, and thus BOTH must fire on the SAME header section 
in order for the meta rule to work??

Cheers,
Jeremy 





Re: Spam surge tied to SpamThru Trojan botnet

2006-11-17 Thread Justin Mason

Peter H. Lemieux writes:
  From this article at eWeek:
 http://www.eweek.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=194218,00.asp
 
 The recent surge in e-mail spam hawking penny stocks and penis 
 enlargement pills is the handiwork of Russian hackers running a botnet 
 powered by tens of thousands of hijacked computers.
 
 Internet security researchers and law enforcement authorities have 
 traced the operation to a well-organized hacking gang controlling a 
 70,000-strong peer-to-peer botnet seeded with the SpamThru Trojan.

Definitely.  As far as I can tell, the SpamThru upsurge: that's the
FHARMACY economize more with http://URL; stuff -- is hitting
HDR_ORDER_FTSDMCXX*, MID_START_001C, and XBL and URIBL rules.

There's also another spammer who's creating another very large batch,
separately: the C*na Petroleum stock spammer, hitting RCVD_FORGED_WROTE
and TVD_STOCK1.

The two sets are quite distinct and on a large scale, and if you look at
the rules freqs by contributor, various people have massively differing
hitrates on their corpora.  For example, HDR_ORDER_FTSDMCXX3 (SpamThru
traffic) is 56% of Daryl's corpus, but only 3.4% of zmi's:

http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20061116-r475642-n/HDR_ORDER_FTSDMCXX3/detail#DETAILS_all_mass_check_date_rev_20061116_r475642_n

And RCVD_FORGED_WROTE, the stock spammer, is 6.3% of my corpus and
only 0.42% of Michael's:

http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20061116-r475642-n/RCVD_FORGED_WROTE/detail#DETAILS_all_mass_check_date_rev_20061116_r475642_n

Interesting.  Not quite sure what that implies though. ;)

--j.


Re: MIMEHeader question

2006-11-17 Thread Justin Mason

Jeremy Fairbrass writes:
 Hi all,
 I have a question about the MIMEHeader plugin: if I have multiple mimeheader 
 rules, are they all checked against the same part in a multipart message?
 
 So let me give an example:
 
 Let's say an email has 2 separate mime header sections (perhaps one is TXT 
 and the other is HTML, or perhap there are 2 file attachments, or whatever). 
 They might look like this:
 
 --=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7099B.069AFD30
 Content-Type: image/gif;
  name=Blank Bkgrd.gif
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 
 --=_NextPart_001_0063_01C7099B.069AFD30
 Content-Type: text/html;
  charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
 Then let's say I have a couple of mimeheader rules as follows:
 
 mimeheader  __RULE1  Content-Type =~ /image\/gif/
 mimeheader  __RULE2  Content-Transfer-Encoding =~ /quoted-printable/
 meta  MY_META_RULE  (RULE1  RULE2)
 
 My question is, will the meta rule trigger, or not? Because as you can see, 
 only the first mime header section contains Content-Type: image/gif, and 
 only the second mime header section contains Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
 quoted-printable. So are my two mimeheader rules being run against each 
 header section separately from each other, or are they only run against the 
 header sections together, and thus BOTH must fire on the SAME header section 
 in order for the meta rule to work??

the former.


amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Maccie Roux

Hi all.

My spam is being block with amavis but it does not send it to my
junk mail box.  Here is my amavisd.conf file:
# $timestamp_fmt_mysql = 1; # if using MySQL *and* msgs.time_iso is 
TIMESTAMP;
#   defaults to 0, which is good for non-MySQL or if msgs.time_iso is 
CHAR(16)


$virus_admin   = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications recip.

$mailfrom_notify_admin = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications sender
$mailfrom_notify_recip = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications sender
$mailfrom_notify_spamadmin = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # notifications sender
#$mailfrom_to_quarantine = ''; # null return path; uses original sender 
if undef


@addr_extension_virus_maps  = ('virus');
@addr_extension_banned_maps = ('banned');
@addr_extension_spam_maps   = ('spam');
@addr_extension_bad_header_maps = ('badh');
# $recipient_delimiter = '+';  # undef disables address extensions 
altogether
# when enabling addr extensions do also Postfix/main.cf: 
recipient_delimiter=+


$path = '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin';
# $dspam = 'dspam';

I think you only need this part.


Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List
 It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
 spamassassin?

 Do you think that this procedure is good?

  __
 (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
  | it's spam?|
  |__|
  (no, goes to)
 |
 |
 |
(spamassassin)-(move the message 
 to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

 I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

 How do I do it?

You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
will run when the message is fed to SA.



Re: Spam surge tied to SpamThru Trojan botnet

2006-11-17 Thread Chris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:59 pm, Steve Lake wrote:
  Oh joy.  So what do we do about this?  Are they going to try and
 bust these guys?  Or can't they touch them?

 At 08:16 PM 11/16/2006 -0500, Peter H. Lemieux wrote:
  From this article at eWeek:
 http://www.eweek.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=194218,00.asp
 
 The recent surge in e-mail spam hawking penny stocks and penis
 enlargement pills is the handiwork of Russian hackers running a botnet
 powered by tens of thousands of hijacked computers.
 
 Internet security researchers and law enforcement authorities have
  traced the operation to a well-organized hacking gang controlling a
  70,000-strong peer-to-peer botnet seeded with the SpamThru Trojan.
 
 Peter

Well as of this morning it 'appears' to have slowed considerably, instead of 
the 200 or so I was seeing at 6am, I have only 40 and only one of those is 
a subject from the recent flood.

-- 
Chris


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Re: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Leander Koornneef


On 17-nov-2006, at 12:59, Maccie Roux wrote:


Hi all.

My spam is being block with amavis but it does not send it to my
junk mail box.  Here is my amavisd.conf file:
# $timestamp_fmt_mysql = 1; # if using MySQL *and* msgs.time_iso is  
TIMESTAMP;
#   defaults to 0, which is good for non-MySQL or if msgs.time_iso  
is CHAR(16)


$virus_admin   = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications  
recip.


$mailfrom_notify_admin = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications  
sender
$mailfrom_notify_recip = [EMAIL PROTECTED];  # notifications  
sender

$mailfrom_notify_spamadmin = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # notifications sender
#$mailfrom_to_quarantine = ''; # null return path; uses original  
sender if undef


@addr_extension_virus_maps  = ('virus');
@addr_extension_banned_maps = ('banned');
@addr_extension_spam_maps   = ('spam');
@addr_extension_bad_header_maps = ('badh');
# $recipient_delimiter = '+';  # undef disables address extensions  
altogether
# when enabling addr extensions do also Postfix/main.cf:  
recipient_delimiter=+


$path = '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/ 
bin';

# $dspam = 'dspam';

I think you only need this part.


Maccie,

why are you sending amavisd questions to the Spamassassin list, while it
seems to me that you would be better served when asking the amavisd list
about these things?

Leander


amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Maccie Roux

Can someone please help me with this message in my maillog.

ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: Too many retries to talk to 
/var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket 
/var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock: Connection refused)


Thanks
Maccie Roux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Justin Mason

Matt Kettler writes:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi List
  It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
  spamassassin?
 
  Do you think that this procedure is good?
 
   __
  (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
   | it's spam?|
   |__|
   (no, goes to)
  |
  |
  |
 (spamassassin)-(move the 
  message 
  to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )
 
  I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it
 
  How do I do it?
 
 You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
 tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
 will run when the message is fed to SA.

in SpamAssassin 3.2.0, you'll be able to do it with SpamAssassin's
bayes -- short-circuit to spam with a high score if BAYES_99 hits,
for example.

--j.


Hi !

2006-11-17 Thread Cristi Tudose
Hi .. 
 
I am new to this list.
 
I need some help.
 
I have installed qmail with qmail-scan, spamassassin and clamav.
The installation was going well.
 
The clamav and spamassassin is running under qscand user.
The mails what came with virus attachment, the attachment is deleted by the
clamav.
But the spam not. I want the subject to be rewrited what's not happen.
 
In my local.cf  I have:
 
rewrite_header Subject SPAM(_SCORE_)
required_score 20.0
required_hits 20
 
what I thing is what I need to spamassassin rewrite the subject.
 
 
The same settings I have added to homedir in qscand In user_prefs.
 
Can anyone help me in how to setup the spamassassin to rewrite the subject ?
 

Thanks!

 
 
PS. I use p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.7_1 and a FreeBSD 6.1 AMD64 
 
 


RE: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 Can someone please help me with this message in my maillog.
 
 ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: Too many retries to talk to 
 /var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket 
 /var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock: Connection refused)

Your clamd is not running OR it is not listening on 
/var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock socket.

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I-53044 Chiusi (SI) - Italy
Ph: +39-0578-21100

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 Thanks
 Maccie Roux
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread jeaspam
I mean, I want the sa-learn examine the message before the spamassassin and 
then goes to spamassassin

The reasons for that:

-I think the incoming mail maybe a spam, but this is relative because the 
concept to spam for an user is not equal to another one ( I have many users 
on my domain )
-At the next time the incoming message like the last one could be processed 
like spam by spamassassin
-If the sa-learn determine it's spam the message will be deleted
--else, the message goes to spamassassin,
-The spamassassin mark the message spam or not spam
--if spam put it on the folder /mailbox/.spam
--else put it on the inbox and the user can define if this is spam or not 
according to his own criteria

JeAn

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: spam lista users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: bayes before spamassassin?


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List
 It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to
 spamassassin?

 Do you think that this procedure is good?

  __
 (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
  | it's spam?|
  |__|
  (no, goes to)
 |
 |
 |
(spamassassin)-(move the 
 message
 to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

 I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

 How do I do it?

 You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
 tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
 will run when the message is fed to SA.
 




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bayes?

2006-11-17 Thread Netlink Tech

Hello,
It seems bayes is not working properly for me.
I have sendmail/MailScanner/Spamassassin setup for my users.
MailScanner version 4.56.8
Spamassassin version 3.1.3
autolearn is on
--

sa-learn --dump magic

0.000  0  3  0  non-token data: bayes db version
0.000  0 487135  0  non-token data: nspam
0.000  0 560705  0  non-token data: nham
0.000  0 139626  0  non-token data: ntokens
0.000  0 1163723330  0  non-token data: oldest atime
0.000  0 1163767343  0  non-token data: newest atime
0.000  0  0  0  non-token data: last journal sync 
atime

0.000  0 1163766599  0  non-token data: last expiry atime
0.000  0  43200  0  non-token data: last expire atime 
delta
0.000  0  49483  0  non-token data: last expire 
reduction count

--

The last journal sync being 0 doesn't seem correct...shouldn't this be 
some positive number?

I even ran sa-learn --force-expire.

When I use 'spamassassin -D spamtest' to feed through a known spam, this 
is one section of the debug with respect to bayes that I am confused 
about.

The score is 0.996 before bayes.
Bayes score is  1.11022302462516e-16
What causes this type of score?
Is this why this message ends up getting -1.603 after the bayes tests?

--
[26760] dbg: rules: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so 
far=0.996

[26760] dbg: rules: ran body rule __NONEMPTY_BODY == got hit: D
[26760] dbg: uri: running uri tests; score so far=0.996
[26760] dbg: rules: ran uri rule __SARE_URI_ANY == got hit: m
[26760] dbg: rules: ran uri rule __URI_ABOUT_COM == got hit: 
about.com

[26760] dbg: bayes: DB journal sync: last sync: 0
[26760] dbg: bayes: corpus size: nspam = 487131, nham = 560694
[26760] dbg: bayes: score = 1.11022302462516e-16
[26760] dbg: bayes: DB journal sync: last sync: 0
[26760] dbg: bayes: untie-ing
[26760] dbg: bayes: untie-ing db_toks
[26760] dbg: bayes: untie-ing db_seen
[26760] dbg: plugin: registering glue method for check_uridnsbl 
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x1c5a020))

[26760] dbg: rules: ran eval rule __SARE_BODY_BLANKS_5_100 == got hit
[26760] dbg: rules: ran eval rule BAYES_00 == got hit
[26760] dbg: rules: ran eval rule __SARE_BODY_BLNK_5_100 == got hit
[26760] dbg: rules: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so 
far=-1.603
[26760] dbg: rules: ran rawbody rule __VIRUS_WARNING268F == got hit: 
From: Daryl Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[26760] dbg: rules: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=-1.603
---
Thanks, Curt


Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I mean, I want the sa-learn examine the message before the spamassassin and 
 then goes to spamassassin


   
snip
 -If the sa-learn determine it's spam the message will be deleted
   
But there's the problem. sa-learn doesn't determine if a message is spam
or not. In fact, you have to explicitly tell it if the message is spam
or not.

sa-learn isn't a bayes evaluator. It's a bayes trainer.



Re: RelayChecker 0.3

2006-11-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:56:21 -0800
Derek Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:26 -0800, John Rudd wrote:
 
  http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/RelayChecker.tar
 
 I've been running this for a few days now and am finding it to be
 pretty effective, especially against the bots that are producing all
 the image spam.
 
 Currently it's running about 87.55% hit rate with only two false
 positives so far (one a company on adsl, the other a mail server with
 no reverse DNS).

For reasons that I haven't investigated closely, I'm finding
RelayChecker consistently tags mail from the dojo toolkit's mailing
list as well as the catalyst toolkit's mailing list.

I lowered the score from 6 to 4.5, though, and it's continued to be
effective, while letting those emails through.

Mike.


failed to run FUZZY_OCR test, skipping:

2006-11-17 Thread Frank Bures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Since upgrading my FuzzyOcr from version 2.3b to version 3.4.2 I am seeing 
these entries in the logs:

spamd[27790]: rules: failed to run FUZZY_OCR test, skipping:
spamd[27790]: Insecure dependency in require while running with -T switch at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/MLDBM/Serializer/Storable.pm line 20

My SpamAssassin runs as UID 'spamd'.


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks


Frank Bures, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Toronto, M5S 3H6
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chem.utoronto.ca
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Re: bayes?

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Netlink Tech wrote:
 Hello,
 It seems bayes is not working properly for me.
 I have sendmail/MailScanner/Spamassassin setup for my users.
 MailScanner version 4.56.8
 Spamassassin version 3.1.3
 autolearn is on
 --
 sa-learn --dump magic

 The last journal sync being 0 doesn't seem correct...shouldn't this be
 some positive number?
Maybe.. perhaps your bayes has never needed to create a journal, thus
never needed to sync one. I by default SA only uses journaling for atime
updates. However, I'd venture to guess it only does so if there's lock
contention. If your system is really non-busy, there may never be a
journal. It's a little odd, but not impossible.
 I even ran sa-learn --force-expire.

 When I use 'spamassassin -D spamtest' to feed through a known spam,
 this is one section of the debug with respect to bayes that I am
 confused about.
 The score is 0.996 before bayes.
 Bayes score is  1.11022302462516e-16
 What causes this type of score?
note that the bayes score isn't a score in points. Its a percentage
expressed as a range from 1.0 to 0. In this case, it's damn close to 0.

That means this message closely matches your bayes training for nonspam
messages.

If you want more bayes information use 'spamassassin -D bayes spamtest'
 Is this why this message ends up getting -1.603 after the bayes tests?
Yes. that would cause the BAYES_00 rule to match, which has a negative
score.



Re: Hi !

2006-11-17 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Friday 17 November 2006 13:52, Cristi Tudose wrote:
 Hi ..

One tip for the future: Hi ! is not a good subject line.

 I have installed qmail with qmail-scan, spamassassin and clamav.
 The installation was going well.

 The clamav and spamassassin is running under qscand user.
 The mails what came with virus attachment, the attachment is deleted by the
 clamav.
 But the spam not. I want the subject to be rewrited what's not happen.

 In my local.cf  I have:

 rewrite_header Subject SPAM(_SCORE_)
 required_score 20.0
 required_hits 20

It appears that Qmail-scanner can be run in one of two modes, and in the fast 
mode it adds its own headers, just like Amavis. See 
http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php#cs, points 16 and 17. Also lower 
the required_score to something more normal.

-- 
Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks)


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RE: Hi !

2006-11-17 Thread twofers
What else do you have in your local.cf?
   
  Wes

Cristi Tudose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
HI ..
   
  I never tried with 5 or 7.
   
  But!
   
  When I send to mysef from yahoo.com a spam message, 
  And I check the full header I see this:
   
  eturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 66234 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 13:25:46 -
Received: from 68.142.236.83 by mail.prosportequipment.ro (envelope-from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-2.01 
 (clamdscan: 0.88.5/2160. spamassassin: 3.1.6. 
 Clear:RC:0(68.142.236.83):SA:1(102.8/20.0):. 
 Processed in 8.861972 secs); 17 Nov 2006 13:25:46 -
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=102.8 required=20.0
X-Spam-Level: 

Received: from web57805.mail.re3.yahoo.com (68.142.236.83)
 by prosportequipment.ro with SMTP; 17 Nov 2006 13:25:37 -
Received: (qmail 4186 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2006 13:25:30 -
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
 s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
 h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type;
 
b=YcAocynBVNVztHvfRsfhaWeSV7bkd2BonJSwagVO9rJ3j9i6yc5JgM6K+XS7uIXW9sCSaWu9/45WIrQlMbAlEXttygutOM5Cnn3fgJvJMredHuQP30HsOPTYJ0gsYAd4GKIHHpvIBiYLv001mitxXCLmO28tV/Gn2n7yuvXltKM=
 ;
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from [80.97.65.247] by web57805.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 
Nov 2006 05:25:30 PST
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Anti Piracy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dsada
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-1106431873-1163769930=:3976

  the score is 102.8 what is huge !
   
  I have set the Subject to subject .. but this not helps me. :(
  Any suggestion ?
   
  Thank you!
   
   
  
-
  
  From: twofers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:18 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Hi ! 

   
Cristi,

 

Have you tried lowering your required_score to something like between 5 and 
7 ?

 

also change rewrite_header Subject SPAM(_SCORE_) to:

 

rewrite_header subject SPAM(_SCORE_)

 

Keep it lower case.

 

You can also run spamassassin -D --lint to check for syntax errors.

 

Wes

 

Depending on what version of SA you are using required_hits is depreciated 
and not used.

Cristi Tudose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi .. 

 

I am new to this list.

 

I need some help.

 

I have installed qmail with qmail-scan, spamassassin and clamav.

The installation was going well.

 

The clamav and spamassassin is running under qscand user.

The mails what came with virus attachment, the attachment is deleted by the 
clamav.

But the spam not. I want the subject to be rewrited what’s not happen.

 

In my local.cf  I have:

 

rewrite_header Subject SPAM(_SCORE_)

required_score 20.0

required_hits 20

 

what I thing is what I need to spamassassin rewrite the subject.

 

 

The same settings I have added to homedir in qscand In user_prefs.

 

Can anyone help me in how to setup the spamassassin to rewrite the subject ?

 

  Thanks! 

 

PS. I use p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.7_1 and a FreeBSD 6.1 AMD64 

 

 

   


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Re: MIMEHeader question

2006-11-17 Thread Jeremy Fairbrass

Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jeremy Fairbrass writes:
 Hi all,
 I have a question about the MIMEHeader plugin: if I have multiple 
 mimeheader
 rules, are they all checked against the same part in a multipart message?

 So let me give an example:

 Let's say an email has 2 separate mime header sections (perhaps one is 
 TXT
 and the other is HTML, or perhap there are 2 file attachments, or 
 whatever).
 They might look like this:

 --=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7099B.069AFD30
 Content-Type: image/gif;
  name=Blank Bkgrd.gif
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

 --=_NextPart_001_0063_01C7099B.069AFD30
 Content-Type: text/html;
  charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


 Then let's say I have a couple of mimeheader rules as follows:

 mimeheader  __RULE1  Content-Type =~ /image\/gif/
 mimeheader  __RULE2  Content-Transfer-Encoding =~ /quoted-printable/
 meta  MY_META_RULE  (RULE1  RULE2)

 My question is, will the meta rule trigger, or not? Because as you can 
 see,
 only the first mime header section contains Content-Type: image/gif, and
 only the second mime header section contains Content-Transfer-Encoding:
 quoted-printable. So are my two mimeheader rules being run against each
 header section separately from each other, or are they only run against 
 the
 header sections together, and thus BOTH must fire on the SAME header 
 section
 in order for the meta rule to work??

 the former.


Okay - so you're saying that the two mimeheader rules will actually run 
separately from each other, on each header section, and thus the meta rull 
WILL trigger? That's actually not how I'd want it to work. Is it possible, 
then, to have a meta rule (or some other method) using the mimeheader rules, 
that will ONLY trigger if both mimeheader rules trigger against the SAME 
header section? ie. all elements searched for by all mimeheader rules, must 
exist within the same header section - is this possible? Or do I have to 
resort to a 'full' rule or something?





Re: RelayChecker 0.3

2006-11-17 Thread John Rudd

Michael Alan Dorman wrote:

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:56:21 -0800
Derek Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:26 -0800, John Rudd wrote:


http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/RelayChecker.tar

I've been running this for a few days now and am finding it to be
pretty effective, especially against the bots that are producing all
the image spam.

Currently it's running about 87.55% hit rate with only two false
positives so far (one a company on adsl, the other a mail server with
no reverse DNS).


For reasons that I haven't investigated closely, I'm finding
RelayChecker consistently tags mail from the dojo toolkit's mailing
list as well as the catalyst toolkit's mailing list.

I lowered the score from 6 to 4.5, though, and it's continued to be
effective, while letting those emails through.

Mike.


Can you post the Received headers for messages from those two mailing 
lists?  (maybe send them to me off-list)


I'll figure out something to put in the readme file to help mitigate it. 
 (someone else contacted me off list for a feature suggestion of 
keywords that indicate a host that should NOT be triggered, such as 
mail or smtp in the hostname; I'll be trying to work that into the 
next version too)






Re: MIMEHeader question

2006-11-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 03:46:28PM +0100, Jeremy Fairbrass wrote:
  mimeheader  __RULE1  Content-Type =~ /image\/gif/
  mimeheader  __RULE2  Content-Transfer-Encoding =~ /quoted-printable/
  meta  MY_META_RULE  (RULE1  RULE2)
 
 Okay - so you're saying that the two mimeheader rules will actually run 
 separately from each other, on each header section, and thus the meta rull 
 WILL trigger? That's actually not how I'd want it to work.

Yes.

 Is it possible, 
 then, to have a meta rule (or some other method) using the mimeheader rules, 
 that will ONLY trigger if both mimeheader rules trigger against the SAME 
 header section? ie. all elements searched for by all mimeheader rules, must 

You can't force where MIMEHeader looks.

 exist within the same header section - is this possible? Or do I have to 
 resort to a 'full' rule or something?

You'd want to write an eval rule.

-- 
Randomly Selected Tagline:
Today I set a motherboard on fire. Now the bizarre thing is that after 
 the smoke cleared it still worked. - Alan Cox


Ignoring outgoing mail

2006-11-17 Thread Jack L. Stone
I have looked through the SA list archives for any method to make SA ignore
outgoing emails but nothing found that helped. I'm using the flag that I
thought helped do this when I load the scanner spamass-milter:
-i 127.0.0.1 (plus a few more IPs)

I do not see any flages on spamd to help with this either.

This may be more of a spamass-milter question, but I have been using spamd
 spamass-milter for years and thought I knew all of the tricks.

The scans are slowing down the send out of emails signficantly and ad to
remove one custom rule I found that was causing a 19 sec timeout  related
delay -- ixhash was the culprit. Once I disable that ruleset, the delay
dropped from 19 secs to only 3 sec.

I have used spamc-milter before and had pretty good results with that one
and see that it has had further updates -- still don't know if I can bypass
the outgoing tho.

Any tips appreciated, pleaase.

Thanks,
Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american


Re: Bayes failure on hi, it's Somebody spam

2006-11-17 Thread Bart Schaefer

On 11/16/06, Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm, that has not been my experience at all... Bayes (99) is
 still catching every one for me.


In this instance, SpamAssassin is running after POP download from
gmail, so I'm only seeing the samples that have already made it
through google's filters.  That may have something to do with it.


Re: RelayChecker 0.3

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

John Rudd wrote:

Stuart Johnston wrote:

Peter H. Lemieux wrote:

Billy Huddleston wrote:

Reverse DNS is a must. I'm surprised at how many people still haven't
got that yet in the IT world.. (Consultants mostly..)


It's not uncommon outside the industrialized world.  Last few days I got
a few false positives for a client that was corresponding with folks in
the Caribbean.

One of the few services I believe AOL provided the rest of us was 
deciding a few years' back not to accept mail from servers without 
reverse DNS.  Suddenly lots of admins had to deal with the problem of 
correct server configuration because you couldn't fail to deliver 
mail to the millions of AOL users worldwide.


Unfortunately, AOL only validates in one direction and some people 
only do the bare minimum.


So, they only look to see that the IP address has a PTR record, but 
don't verify that the PTR record's hostname resolves back to the IP 
address?


That's correct.  You can test it here:

http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/rdns.html

You can put in for example: 209.74.97.115 whose rdns resolves back to a different IP.  AOL 
specifically says:


If the sender's domain is the only domain sending mail from a specific IP address, we recommend that 
the reverse DNS entry (PTR Record) match the domain name (A Record), but we do not require it.


Re: Thoughts on using DCC

2006-11-17 Thread Anthony Peacock

Hi,

Magnus Holmgren wrote:

On Thursday 16 November 2006 12:59, Anthony Peacock wrote:

I realise that DCC is not a direct indicator of spamminess but an
indicator of bulkiness.  And I also realise that the correct answer to
my question is 'it depends on your local needs'...

Given that what are people's thoughts on using DCC in SA?

DCC gives a high hit rate on SPAM here, but also contributes highly to
false positives.  Since setting up DCC I seem to have lots of list
emails reported as false positives, and spend a fair amount of time
checking and tweaking whitelisting settings for these.  And in most
cases a combination of DCC and a highish Bayes score is enough to tip
these over.  I know I could adjust the DCC score, but was wondering what
other people do?


The thing with DCC is that it combines checking and reporting, which is why it 
is an indicator of bulkiness and not spamminess, as you say. To get around 
that you should whitelist all mailing lists so that mailing list mail isn't 
checked against DCC, both to avoid false positives yourself and to help 
others avoid false positives.


So basically you're right and I haven't added anything. What I can add is that 
I don't use DCC myself, for precisely the aforementioned reason, i.e. that it 
requires to much fiddling with mailing lists.



Thanks for your comments.  This confirms where I had reached in my 
thinking about DCC.



--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free  University College Medical School
WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
If you have an apple and I have  an apple and we  exchange apples
then you and I will still each have  one apple. But  if you have an
idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us
will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw


RE: amavisd

2006-11-17 Thread Gary V

 Can someone please help me with this message in my maillog.

 ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: Too many retries to talk to
 /var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket
 /var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock: Connection refused)

Your clamd is not running OR it is not listening on 
/var/spool/amavisd/clamd.sock socket.


---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant


This may help:
http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/clamav-amavisd-new.html

Gary V

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Re: RelayChecker 0.3

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

Michael Alan Dorman wrote:

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:56:21 -0800
Derek Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:26 -0800, John Rudd wrote:


http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/RelayChecker.tar

I've been running this for a few days now and am finding it to be
pretty effective, especially against the bots that are producing all
the image spam.

Currently it's running about 87.55% hit rate with only two false
positives so far (one a company on adsl, the other a mail server with
no reverse DNS).


For reasons that I haven't investigated closely, I'm finding
RelayChecker consistently tags mail from the dojo toolkit's mailing
list as well as the catalyst toolkit's mailing list.


I just noticed that SourceForge's list sever has a kinda funky rdns.  Can RelayChecker handle an 
alias in rdns?  (66.35.250.225)  It looks like neither of the lists you mention use SF but it might 
cause problems for other lists.


email appears to que all the time - sendmail,spamssassin,amavis-new

2006-11-17 Thread Patrick Sherrill
I seem to be getting significant delays in delivery (queue times are set to 
15m). I am currently using amavis-new to hook SA with sendmail (tx and rx 
queue).   What would be the best approach to minimizing delays beyond more 
RAM.

TIA
Pat...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CocoNet Corporation
SW Florida's First ISP
825 SE 47th Terrace
Cape Coral, FL 33904
(239) 540-2626 Voice




New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread Billy Huddleston
I'm getting some new spam coming through.. It's ASCII art (using nothing but 
numbers) and spells out TORA.08 and nothing else..

It looks to be coming from a Bot-Net..  Anyone seen this?

Thanks, Billy

Re: New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread James Galvin
Hi Billy,

I got one of these for the first time just 15 minutes ago.  TORA.08 as well.

James


Billy Huddleston wrote:
 I'm getting some new spam coming through.. It's ASCII art (using
 nothing but numbers) and spells out TORA.08 and nothing else..
  
 It looks to be coming from a Bot-Net..  Anyone seen this?
  
 Thanks, Billy


Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Steve [Spamassasin]
The other night my default gentoo RulesDuJour for Spamassassin acquired new
Adult and General rule-sets from SARE.  Thereafter spamd refused all
connections and subsequently received mail was not spam filtered. 
Issuing '/etc/init.d/spamd restart' as root resolved the situation...
but I don't want to have to do this every time a rule-set is
automatically updated overnight.

This is a (sanitised) extract from /var/log/messages :

--
Nov 15 03:20:00 svr fcron[5328]: process already running: root's
/usr/bin/test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons
Nov 15 03:20:14 svr postfix/pickup[11065]: ...: uid=0 from=root
Nov 15 03:20:14 svr postfix/cleanup[11232]: ...: message-id=...
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: connection from localhost
[127.0.0.1] at port 1125
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: setuid to foouser succeeded
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: processing message .. for
foouser:1000
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: clean message (-2.9/5.0) for
foouser:1000 in 3.1 seconds, 647 bytes.
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: result: . -2 - AWL,BAYES_00
scantime=3.1,size=647,user=foouser,...
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr postfix/local[11237]: ...
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: ...: removed
Nov 15 03:20:19 svr spamd[5462]: prefork: child states: II
Nov 15 03:20:26 svr postfix/pickup[11065]: ...: uid=0 from=root
Nov 15 03:20:26 svr postfix/cleanup[11232]: ...
Nov 15 03:20:27 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: setuid to foouser succeeded
Nov 15 03:20:27 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: processing message ... for
foouser:1000
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: clean message (-2.2/5.0) for
foouser:1000 in 2.7 seconds, 612 bytes.
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: result: . -2 - AWL,BAYES_05
scantime=2.7,size=612,user=foouser,uid=1000,...
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr postfix/local[11237]: EEA5F3B945:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=root, relay=local, delay=3, status=sent
(delivered to command: /usr/bin/proc
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: EEA5F3B945: removed
Nov 15 03:20:30 svr spamd[5462]: prefork: child states: II
Nov 15 03:21:05 svr spamd[5462]: spamd: server killed by SIGTERM,
shutting down
Nov 15 03:21:11 svr rc-scripts: Failed to stop spamd
Nov 15 03:30:00 svr fcron[5328]: process already running: root's
/usr/bin/test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons
Nov 15 03:40:00 svr fcron[11746]: Job /usr/bin/test -x
/usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons started for user root (pid 11747)
Nov 15 03:50:00 svr fcron[11759]: Job /usr/bin/test -x
/usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons started for user root (pid 11760)
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: ...: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/cleanup[11775]: ...: message-id=...
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: 73FAA3B4FB: from=...
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr spamc[11779]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused
Nov 15 03:50:25 svr spamc[11779]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, retrying (#2 of 3): Connection refused
--

Does anyone else have this problem?  Can it be attributed to fcron or
RulesDuJour or something peculiar to my setup?
I don't understand the process already running messages from fcron -
but my cron jobs all seem to be executed normally.

The script which was run immediately prior to spamd stopping accepting 
connections is the standard one supplied for Gentoo - a copy of the version I'm 
using is here : http://temporary.shic.dynalias.net/rules_du_jour

--




I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Jeff Moss
I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.

  Regards
  Jeff Moss


Re: New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread Evan Platt

At 07:40 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
I'm getting some new spam coming through.. It's ASCII art (using 
nothing but numbers) and spells out TORA.08 and nothing else..


It looks to be coming from a Bot-Net..  Anyone seen this?

Thanks, Billy


Just got 2 also to 2 different e-mail addresses. 



RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Suhas Ingale \(QualiSpace\)
Even I have started getting it. 

Have any one cracked any rules for this?

Warm Regards,
Suhas
System Administrator
QualiSpace - A QuantumPages Enterprise
An ICANN Accredited Domain Registrar
===
Tel India: +91 (22) 6792 - 1480
Tel US: +1 (614) 827 - 1224
Fax India: +91 (22) 2530 - 3166
URL: http://www.qualispace.com 
===
For Any Technical Query Please Use: http://helpdesk.qualispace.com 
QualiSpace Community Discussion forum: http://forum.qualispace.com 
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Moss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:15 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.

  Regards
  Jeff Moss





Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Evan Platt

At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.


Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?



Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Dan McCullough

Hey I got the same thing.

On 11/17/06, Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.

Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?




Re: email appears to que all the time - sendmail,spamssassin,amavis-new

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

Patrick Sherrill wrote:
I seem to be getting significant delays in delivery (queue times are set 
to 15m). I am currently using amavis-new to hook SA with sendmail (tx 
and rx queue).   What would be the best approach to minimizing delays 
beyond more RAM.


Reject more messages with (good) DNSBLs and/or (selective) greylisting before 
they get to amavis.


Re: New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread Michel R Vaillancourt

Evan Platt wrote:

At 07:40 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
I'm getting some new spam coming through.. It's ASCII art (using 
nothing but numbers) and spells out TORA.08 and nothing else..


It looks to be coming from a Bot-Net..  Anyone seen this?

Thanks, Billy


Just got 2 also to 2 different e-mail addresses.


Yep.  Saw this just within the past ten mins.

--
--Michel Vaillancourt
Wolfstar Systems
www.wolfstar.ca


Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Billy Huddleston
So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't even know 
what the heck that means!!!



- Original Message - 
From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?



At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.


Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?





RE: Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 The other night my default gentoo RulesDuJour for Spamassassin 
 acquired new
 Adult and General rule-sets from SARE.  Thereafter spamd refused all
 connections and subsequently received mail was not spam filtered. 
 Issuing '/etc/init.d/spamd restart' as root resolved the situation...
 but I don't want to have to do this every time a rule-set is
 automatically updated overnight.
 
 This is a (sanitised) extract from /var/log/messages :
 
 ...omissis...

 
 Does anyone else have this problem?  Can it be attributed to fcron or
 RulesDuJour or something peculiar to my setup?
 I don't understand the process already running messages from fcron -
 but my cron jobs all seem to be executed normally.

Yep! That's a well-known issue to me, but with amavis.

When the rulesdujour script issues a '/etc/init.d/amavis restart', the gentoo's 
init script doesn't  wait enough for amavis termination and times out. I had to 
overcame the problem by configuring ruledujour to restart amavis through a 
simple, my-hand-made, script.

That's it:

#!/bin/bash
AMV_NM=amavisd
AMV_RC=/etc/init.d/amavisd

# Get the amavis' processes pids
PIDS=$( /sbin/pidof ${AMV_NM} )
if [[ ! -z ${PIDS} ]]; then
# Stop amavis
${AMV_RC} stop

# Check for amavis termination
while [[ ! -z ${PIDS} ]]; do
sleep 1
PIDS=$( /sbin/pidof ${AMV_NM} )
done

# (Re)start amavis
${AMV_RC} restart
fi

Please note that, since the stop action is prone to fail, you can't just use 
a start action later. Use a restart instead: it will detect amavis as not 
running anymore and will start it as required.

Of course, this script may be adapted to your needs: simply set AMV_NM e AMV_RC 
to the name and init script's path of spamd.

Regards,

giampaolo

 
 The script which was run immediately prior to spamd stopping 
 accepting connections is the standard one supplied for Gentoo - a 
 copy of the version I'm using is here : 
http://temporary.shic.dynalias.net/rules_du_jour

--




Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread snowcrash+spamassassin

 I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
 TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.


lordy, lordy!

i'm just *SURE* i'm missing the whole point of this sort of spam ...

... but WHY do these spammers even bother with this sort of stuff?

even if it *does* temporarily get past filters -- who in their right
mind clicks on this stuff?  or, worse, would send/invest $$$?


Re: RelayChecker 0.3

2006-11-17 Thread John Rudd

Stuart Johnston wrote:

Michael Alan Dorman wrote:

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:56:21 -0800
Derek Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:26 -0800, John Rudd wrote:


http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/RelayChecker.tar

I've been running this for a few days now and am finding it to be
pretty effective, especially against the bots that are producing all
the image spam.

Currently it's running about 87.55% hit rate with only two false
positives so far (one a company on adsl, the other a mail server with
no reverse DNS).


For reasons that I haven't investigated closely, I'm finding
RelayChecker consistently tags mail from the dojo toolkit's mailing
list as well as the catalyst toolkit's mailing list.


I just noticed that SourceForge's list sever has a kinda funky rdns.  
Can RelayChecker handle an alias in rdns?  (66.35.250.225)  It looks 
like neither of the lists you mention use SF but it might cause problems 
for other lists.



Off the top of my head, I don't know.  I'll be sure to test it before 
the next release.



John


Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

Evan Platt wrote:

At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.


Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?


AH HA!  It is not a url, its a stock symbol!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TORA.OB


RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I 
 don't even know 
 what the heck that means!!!

I guess it is a (japanese?) nickname.

Maybe the nickname of the bot/worm/virus maker?

It is possible that this advertising is targeted to spammers, not to real 
customers: it looks like Ehy, see? I can flood people's mailboxes with it! 
Come and buy my services.

Ah, these business people...

giampaolo

 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?
 
 
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
 I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
 TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
 4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
 Does anybody know what this is about.
 
  Got 2 also.
 
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
  
 



RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Evan Platt wrote:
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
  I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
  TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
  4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
  Does anybody know what this is about.
  
  Got 2 also.
  
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
 
 AH HA!  It is not a url, its a stock symbol!
 
 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TORA.OB

So, it's not 08 but OB.

What does OB stands for? OBnubilated? OBfuscating? OBsessive?

giampaolo



Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:03:54 -0700,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


|  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
| 
| AH HA!  It is not a url, its a stock symbol!
| 
| http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TORA.OB

Trading up 4.5%!

Geez...

At a rough guess that would be 'salt' money. So when someone does
click on it/look it up they see rising stock and buy. Check it again
in a few days.

Nigel


Re: Real fix for stock spams - pick up a pen

2006-11-17 Thread Bookworm

Coffey, Neal wrote:

Bookworm wrote:
  

Pick up a pen, and write to your local congressman, or even to the
SEC, and insist that they penalize those companies who are being
pimped and pumped through spam emails.



Why should they?  The companies being advertised in the stock spams
aren't responsible.  In fact, a good pump-and-dump stock scam can be
very harmful to the target company.
  
This depends on whether it's a pump and dump for the initial IPO (In 
which case, the company knows straight out who they're dealing with), or 
whether it's a pump and dump for an existing stock.  (In which case, the 
spammer stands out big-time, and can be backtracked by the SEC for 
sending out the spam - possibly for pump and dump.  I don't know if 
those are illegal or not, but using spam to do it definitely is)


Either way, it's a Go for the money. 


BW



Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Justin Mason

this seems to catch them:

header __MAILER_OL_6626 X-Mailer =~ /^Microsoft Outlook, Build 10\.0\.6626$/
header __MOLE_2962  X-MimeOLE =~ /^Produced\ By\ Microsoft\ MimeOLE\ 
V6\.00\.2900\.2962$/
meta JM_TORA_XM (__MAILER_OL_6626  __MOLE_2962)

--j.

Billy Huddleston writes:
 So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't even know 
 what the heck that means!!!
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?
 
 
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
 I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
 TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
 4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
 Does anybody know what this is about.
 
  Got 2 also.
 
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
 


RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Suhas Ingale \(QualiSpace\)
Lol

Warm Regards,
Suhas
System Administrator
QualiSpace - A QuantumPages Enterprise
An ICANN Accredited Domain Registrar
===
Tel India: +91 (22) 6792 - 1480
Tel US: +1 (614) 827 - 1224
Fax India: +91 (22) 2530 - 3166
URL: http://www.qualispace.com 
===
For Any Technical Query Please Use: http://helpdesk.qualispace.com 
QualiSpace Community Discussion forum: http://forum.qualispace.com 

-Original Message-
From: Giampaolo Tomassoni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:36 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

 So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I 
 don't even know 
 what the heck that means!!!

I guess it is a (japanese?) nickname.

Maybe the nickname of the bot/worm/virus maker?

It is possible that this advertising is targeted to spammers, not to real
customers: it looks like Ehy, see? I can flood people's mailboxes with it!
Come and buy my services.

Ah, these business people...

giampaolo

 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?
 
 
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
 I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
 TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
 4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
 Does anybody know what this is about.
 
  Got 2 also.
 
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
  
 






Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:09:21 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Evan Platt wrote:
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
  I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
  TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
  4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
  Does anybody know what this is about.
  
  Got 2 also.
  
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
 
 AH HA!  It is not a url, its a stock symbol!
 
 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TORA.OB

So, it's not 08 but OB.

What does OB stands for? OBnubilated? OBfuscating? OBsessive?

giampaolo

- If this is a preferred stock, the letters PR and the letter
denoting the class will typically be added. For example, a fictional
preferred stock called Cory's Tequila Corporate Preferred T's would
have a symbol such as CTC.PR.T.

- If the company has more than one type of stock currently trading,
then it will have the class added to its suffix. For instance,
Berkshire Hathaway comes in two forms: BRK.A and BRK.B.

- If a stock is trading on the Pink Sheets or the Over-the-Counter
Bulletin Board, a PK or OB will be added to the stock symbol.

- On the Nasdaq, a fifth symbol is added to stocks that are delinquent
in certain exchange requirements. For example, the letter Q will be
added to the stock symbol of a company presently in bankruptcy
proceedings.

From http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/03/061903.asp

Nigel


Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Billy Huddleston

Will that not get legit mail from someone sending via Microsoft Outlook ?

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Billy Huddleston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?




this seems to catch them:

header __MAILER_OL_6626 X-Mailer =~ /^Microsoft Outlook, Build 
10\.0\.6626$/
header __MOLE_2962  X-MimeOLE =~ /^Produced\ By\ Microsoft\ MimeOLE\ 
V6\.00\.2900\.2962$/

meta JM_TORA_XM (__MAILER_OL_6626  __MOLE_2962)

--j.

Billy Huddleston writes:
So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't even 
know

what the heck that means!!!


- Original Message - 
From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?


 At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.

 Got 2 also.

 Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?







Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread qqqq
| | 
| | http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TORA.OB
| 
| Trading up 4.5%!
| 
| Geez...
| 
| At a rough guess that would be 'salt' money. So when someone does
| click on it/look it up they see rising stock and buy. Check it again
| in a few days.
| 
| Nigel


Hey...there is money to be made!

Let's all short TORA.OB


Re: Real fix for stock spams - pick up a pen

2006-11-17 Thread Bookworm

Robert Braver wrote:

On Thursday, November 16, 2006, 8:00:09 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:

MS It was $500, and the law changed to make it impossible to collect
MS anymore.

MS Before, it was a 'first strike' and you owe $500.  Now you have to 'opt
MS out' (they can still send you one)

Opt-out applies only if there is an existing business relationship
with the recipient, and several other requirements are met.

The rules haven't changed w/r/t typical junk faxes... you can(and
indeed we are) nailing them for the first fax, last fax, and every
fax in between.

  
Yes - Opt-out _used_ to sometimes be a valid excuse, but especially 
since the change last summer, it's basically Unless you have a piece of 
paper saying that you can send them faxes, you can't send them faxes.   
The only exception to that rule is a fax saying We'd like to send you 
information X.  - you can't include any of the information, just the 
request.  Then they have to send that back.


Faxes are opt-in only, unless you already have a prior business 
relationship (that piece of paper.  Two of my customers that faxed to 
various construction companies (legitimately, they never hid, and they 
always removed), spent weeks sending out if you'd like to continue 
receiving these faxes, please fill this out and send it back papers)


BW



RE: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Suhas Ingale \(QualiSpace\)
Is this safe to try?

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:41 PM
To: Billy Huddleston
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?


this seems to catch them:

header __MAILER_OL_6626 X-Mailer =~ /^Microsoft Outlook, Build 10\.0\.6626$/
header __MOLE_2962  X-MimeOLE =~ /^Produced\ By\ Microsoft\ MimeOLE\
V6\.00\.2900\.2962$/
meta JM_TORA_XM (__MAILER_OL_6626  __MOLE_2962)

--j.

Billy Huddleston writes:
 So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't even
know 
 what the heck that means!!!
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?
 
 
  At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
 I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
 TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.
 
 4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
 6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
 8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
 7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
 6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
 8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
 0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213
 
 
 Does anybody know what this is about.
 
  Got 2 also.
 
  Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?
 





Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Ray Anderson
 Wouldn't a better solution to be check the e-mail for NOT having any 
alpha chars?


All numbers seems like a no-brainer to me, but I'm fairly new at this.  :)

Something like

Body ~= /[^a-zA-A]/  


?

Cheers,

-=Ray


Justin Mason wrote:

this seems to catch them:

header __MAILER_OL_6626 X-Mailer =~ /^Microsoft Outlook, Build 10\.0\.6626$/
header __MOLE_2962  X-MimeOLE =~ /^Produced\ By\ Microsoft\ MimeOLE\ 
V6\.00\.2900\.2962$/
meta JM_TORA_XM (__MAILER_OL_6626  __MOLE_2962)

--j.

Billy Huddleston writes:
  
So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't even know 
what the heck that means!!!



- Original Message - 
From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?




At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
  

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.


Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?

  


  


Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?

2006-11-17 Thread Ken A




Ray Anderson wrote:
 Wouldn't a better solution to be check the e-mail for NOT having any 
alpha chars?


All numbers seems like a no-brainer to me, but I'm fairly new at this.  :)

Something like

Body ~= /[^a-zA-A]/ 
?


Too many false positives with that one. You'd need to be sure you didn't 
hit real short emails containing only numbers, like phone numbers, 
passwords, etc..


The one below also FPs on the real outlook client.
The Date header seems to be a bit messed up.(space,tab,date)
Might look at that too. ;-)

Ken A
Pacific.Net


Cheers,

-=Ray


Justin Mason wrote:

this seems to catch them:

header __MAILER_OL_6626 X-Mailer =~ /^Microsoft Outlook, Build 
10\.0\.6626$/
header __MOLE_2962  X-MimeOLE =~ /^Produced\ By\ Microsoft\ MimeOLE\ 
V6\.00\.2900\.2962$/

meta JM_TORA_XM (__MAILER_OL_6626  __MOLE_2962)

--j.

Billy Huddleston writes:
 
So, here is a question...  Why spam everyone with TORA.08, I don't 
even know what the heck that means!!!



- Original Message - From: Evan Platt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers?


   

At 07:44 AM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
 

I'm getting a bunch of spams this morning that have
TORA.08 spelled out with numbers like this.

4216775   0611576   215556 7 3308011   3258576
   6  7 5   153 85 2   7 3
   8  3 6   50   4   1   2 7   0 5
   7  2 2   257873  5 7  4 1   3387715
   6  2 5   7  1   111500075 8 6   2 2
   8  2 2   7   7  3   2   656   0 3   0 8
   0  6430533   44 8   6   207   5412501   7637213


Does anybody know what this is about.


Got 2 also.

Wasn't there a stock image spam with TORA.TORA or something?

  


  




RE: New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread Darren Cockburn
TORA TECHNOLOGIES (TORA.OB) ???

- Darren.

-Original Message-
From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:18 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: New Spam

On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:40:17AM -0500, Billy Huddleston wrote:
 I'm getting some new spam coming through.. It's ASCII art (using
nothing but numbers) and spells out TORA.08 and nothing else..
 
 It looks to be coming from a Bot-Net..  Anyone seen this?
 
 Thanks, Billy

Yes, one of my virtual mailboxes just got one.  Came from
impsat.net.ar.  I sent off a nastygram to the network admin.

somewhat off-topic

Speaking of which, I have a policy such that if I have to deal with a
piece of spam, I use whois to find the abuse reporting point for the
network the zombie is on, and send them a copy of the spam, headers
and all.  Am I spitting (to use a nicer term) in the ocean, or is it
worthwhile?

In particular, this is an issue with a closed mailing list I manage,
which, alas, is not on my server, so I have no control over how the
MTA is set up.  So I get (as of a couple of days ago) 40 or 50 spams
per day I have to moderate.  So if I have to deal with it, the
spammer pays with (I hope) a shutdown zombie.  In case the spammer is
reading this, it's hammered_dulcimers (at) lists.fmp.com.

/somewhat off-topic

Cheers,
-- 
Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bobcatos.com
Where you go in the hereafter depends on what you were after here.
  - Thanks to Graffiti, 2 March 2004


Re: Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Peter H. Lemieux

Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

# Check for amavis termination
while [[ ! -z ${PIDS} ]]; do
sleep 1
PIDS=$( /sbin/pidof ${AMV_NM} )
done


In cases like this I usually just put the sleep command in the init 
script like this:


...

case $1 in
...

  restart|reload)
stop
sleep 5  =
start
RETVAL=$?
;;

...

I'm not a gentoo user, though, so YMMV.  I'm using RedHat/CentOS.  Still 
I'd bet the init scripts aren't that different.


Peter


procmail and virtual domain

2006-11-17 Thread jeaspam
Hi list
I have postfix with a virtual domain, where I have to create a .procmailrc 
file for procmail? ( I have to create a file or a directory? )
How to configure a system wide?
Thanks

JeAn 






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image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread Thiago LPS

Hello everybody...

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a SPAM... but the
FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??

i really dont want to disable the Hashdb...


RE: Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Peter H. Lemieux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
  # Check for amavis termination
  while [[ ! -z ${PIDS} ]]; do
  sleep 1
  PIDS=$( /sbin/pidof ${AMV_NM} )
  done
 
 In cases like this I usually just put the sleep command in the init 
 script like this:
 
 ...
 
 case $1 in
 ...
 
restart|reload)
  stop
   sleep 5  =
  start
  RETVAL=$?
  ;;
 
 ...
 
 I'm not a gentoo user, though, so YMMV.  I'm using RedHat/CentOS.  Still 
 I'd bet the init scripts aren't that different.

The init script fails because it uses something like your way: a single sleep 5 
:)

The guy who made the script did simply test shutting and restarting the 
amavis/spamd daemon up and down in its own test environment, which basicly is 
low mail load or even no mail at all.

After a while amavis is doing it's dirty job, I noticed it needs a lot of time 
to shut down. It takes to me something around 10 secs in the average and 
sometimes it takes even more. So, a 'sleep 5' simply wouldn't fit.

I don't know why (and I even don't care to know), but the script I'm using 
introduces a delay of at most 1 more sec than the strictly needed in restarting 
amavis and it never failed to me.

Giampaolo


 
 Peter



Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers? - Tora Acquires www.makeup.com

2006-11-17 Thread qqqq
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061020/0175176.html



TORA TECHNOLOGIES INC. 

Robert E. Rook - President 



Contact:
 Contacts:
 Tora Technologies Inc.
 Robert E. Rook
 President
 1-866-347-5057
  



Re: Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Mark Martinec
 The guy who made the script did simply test shutting and restarting the
 amavis/spamd daemon up and down in its own test environment, which basicly
 is low mail load or even no mail at all.

 After a while amavis is doing it's dirty job, I noticed it needs a lot of
 time to shut down. It takes to me something around 10 secs in the average
 and sometimes it takes even more. So, a 'sleep 5' simply wouldn't fit.

To shut down amavisd, use the command: amavisd stop
To restart amavisd, use the command:   amavisd reload

These commands will only exit after they have completed their job,
i.e. waiting for the existing daemon to have stopped.

Fiddling directly with pid file, kill, sleep, etc., is unwise,
and most likely much less careful compared to how amavisd does it.

  Mark


RE: Funny spamd failure... (Maybe SARE/rules-du-jour related?)

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
  The guy who made the script did simply test shutting and restarting the
  amavis/spamd daemon up and down in its own test environment, 
 which basicly
  is low mail load or even no mail at all.
 
  After a while amavis is doing it's dirty job, I noticed it 
 needs a lot of
  time to shut down. It takes to me something around 10 secs in 
 the average
  and sometimes it takes even more. So, a 'sleep 5' simply wouldn't fit.
 
 To shut down amavisd, use the command: amavisd stop
 To restart amavisd, use the command:   amavisd reload
 
 These commands will only exit after they have completed their job,
 i.e. waiting for the existing daemon to have stopped.

Ah, Mark. Really many many thanks for this perl of wisdom.

So, I don't have a Linux distribution running on my servers?

May you suggest to me the kind of OS brand I'm running?


 Fiddling directly with pid file, kill, sleep, etc., is unwise,
 and most likely much less careful compared to how amavisd does it.

Hopefully, amavisd doesn't shuts or starts by itself.

It even installs by itself...


   Mark

giampaolo



Sending Marked up mail to another address

2006-11-17 Thread Luke Shannon
I just got my system going. For the short term I would like to send all
mail marked as spam to another address (not served from the box spam
assassin is on).

I am using sendmail/procmail/spamassissin

Here is my .spamassassin.rc file. Any ideas why this won't work? When
the forward rule is in place, the first rule doesn't work.

I'm new to this so my apologies if this is a trivial/silly error on my
part.

Thanks for the help,

Luke


# (250 * 1024 = 256000 bytes) are processed by SpamAssassin. 
:0fw
*  256000
| /usr/bin/spamassassin --prefs-file=/home/spamfolder/.user_prefs

# All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set
threshold)
# is forwarded to admin
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# Work around procmail bug: any output on stderr will cause the F in
From
# to be dropped.  This will re-add it.
:0
* ^^rom[ ]
{
  LOG=*** Dropped F off From_ header! Fixing up. 

  :0 fhw
  | sed -e '1s/^/F/'
}


Re: procmail and virtual domain

2006-11-17 Thread karlp

On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list
 I have postfix with a virtual domain, where I have to create a .procmailrc
 file for procmail? ( I have to create a file or a directory? )
 How to configure a system wide?
 Thanks


I recommend searching on the internet for 'procmail howto' and find one of the
many very good recommendations there.

I chose to put all procmail recipies for users in ~/.procmail.d/ with a
symlink from ~/.procmailrc to ~/.procmail.d/.procmailrc

Then I have /etc/procmailrc where I call SpamAssassin with spamc, among other
things.

I learned it all from a good howto I found on google.com.

Good luck and I hope that helps.

Karl

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Re: Sending Marked up mail to another address

2006-11-17 Thread Bob McClure Jr
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 01:41:03PM -0500, Luke Shannon wrote:
 I just got my system going. For the short term I would like to send all
 mail marked as spam to another address (not served from the box spam
 assassin is on).
 
 I am using sendmail/procmail/spamassissin
 
 Here is my .spamassassin.rc file.

You mean .procmailrc file?

 Any ideas why this won't work? When
 the forward rule is in place, the first rule doesn't work.
 
 I'm new to this so my apologies if this is a trivial/silly error on my
 part.
 
 Thanks for the help,
 
 Luke
 
 
 # (250 * 1024 = 256000 bytes) are processed by SpamAssassin. 
 :0fw
 *  256000
 | /usr/bin/spamassassin --prefs-file=/home/spamfolder/.user_prefs
 
 # All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set
 threshold)
 # is forwarded to admin
 :0
 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
 /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need a pipe in front of that:

| /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The other way is to just put a bang in front of the email address:

! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See man procmailex and man procmailrc.

 # Work around procmail bug: any output on stderr will cause the F in
 From
 # to be dropped.  This will re-add it.
 :0
 * ^^rom[ ]
 {
   LOG=*** Dropped F off From_ header! Fixing up. 
 
   :0 fhw
   | sed -e '1s/^/F/'
 }

Cheers,
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bobcatos.com
Where you go in the hereafter depends on what you were after here.
  - Thanks to Graffiti, 2 March 2004


RE: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread Sietse van Zanen
Ofcourse, save the image, calculate the hash and then use the
fuzzy-find.pl script to delete it from the bad hash db.

 

Next you'll have to use a little trick to get it into the good hash db,
as that's not possible from the fuzzy-find.pl script.

Simply make an empty word list and yank the image through FuzzyOcr
again. It'll put it into the known good db.

 

-Sietse

 

 

From: Thiago LPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 18:25
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

 



Hello everybody... 

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a SPAM... but
the FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??

i really dont want to disable the Hashdb... 







Re: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread decoder

Sietse van Zanen wrote:


Ofcourse, save the image, calculate the hash and then use the 
fuzzy-find.pl script to delete it from the bad hash db.


Next you’ll have to use a little trick to get it into the good hash 
db, as that’s not possible from the fuzzy-find.pl script.


Simply make an empty word list and yank the image through FuzzyOcr 
again. It’ll put it into the known good db.




It is planned to include this feature, it is really something that is 
missing... maybe I'll hack it up right now and release it :)


Regards,

Chris


-Sietse

*From:* Thiago LPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2006 18:25
*To:* users@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* image exception with FuzzyOCR??



Hello everybody...

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a SPAM... 
but the FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??


i really dont want to disable the Hashdb...







RE: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread Sietse van Zanen
To be more exact, the procedure would be:

 

1.   Save the image file, and the message

2.   Calculate the hash and delete it from the bad hash db with the
fuzzy-find.pl script

3.   Create an empty wordlist, or fill it with some bogus words,
that don't appear in the image

4.   Update the FuzzyOcr.cf file to point to the new wordlist. If
you're using spamd don't restart, it'll keep using the correct wordlist.
Otherwise you might want to stop incoming mail for a little while.

5.   Pipe the message through FuccyOcr.pm directly, it'll put the
hash into the known good db.

6.   Correct the config. (and restart maild).

7.   Send in a feature request to update the fuzzy-find.pl script to
insert hashes into a db. ;-)

 

-Sietse

 

From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 20:09
To: Thiago LPS; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

 

Ofcourse, save the image, calculate the hash and then use the
fuzzy-find.pl script to delete it from the bad hash db.

 

Next you'll have to use a little trick to get it into the good hash db,
as that's not possible from the fuzzy-find.pl script.

Simply make an empty word list and yank the image through FuzzyOcr
again. It'll put it into the known good db.

 

-Sietse

 

 

From: Thiago LPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 18:25
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

 



Hello everybody... 

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a SPAM... but
the FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??

i really dont want to disable the Hashdb... 






Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers? - Tora Acquires www.makeup.com

2006-11-17 Thread Thiago LPS

i've got this spam too

looks like a ASCI ART  with TORA writed in the body of mail...

:(



On 11/17/06,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061020/0175176.html



TORA TECHNOLOGIES INC.

Robert E. Rook - President



Contact:
 Contacts:
 Tora Technologies Inc.
 Robert E. Rook
 President
 1-866-347-5057






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msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xx 81 8735 2591
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Re: I've got TORA.08 spelled with numbers? - Tora Acquires www.makeup.com

2006-11-17 Thread Rejaine Monteiro

how to block this ascii art spams??
i've got many spams with this tora.ob too...

Thiago LPS escreveu:

i've got this spam too

looks like a ASCI ART  with TORA writed in the body of mail...

:(



On 11/17/06, **  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061020/0175176.html



TORA TECHNOLOGIES INC.

Robert E. Rook - President



Contact:
 Contacts:
 Tora Technologies Inc.
 Robert E. Rook
 President
 1-866-347-5057





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would SA benefit from port to Java

2006-11-17 Thread Eric A. Hall

Thinking about the GPL Java announcement some, and trying to imagine the
kinds of opportunities this allows for, it occurs to me that SpamAssassin
might be a natural fit for Java.

I'm just thinking out loud here, not advocating anything...

Would it run better? Would it be faster, have smaller memory footprint,
better reclamation, better hooks for plugins etc? OTOH, would it be harder
to build, given the dependence of SA on perl modules?

Thoughts?

-- 
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Internet Core Protocols  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/


RE: New Spam

2006-11-17 Thread Chris Santerre
We've all got at least one. We've been talking about it on other lists.
Either a goof or a spammer got haxored. 

The real question is, how soon before we see You one a free Playstation 3!
spam?  :-) 

--Chris 

(No, I didn't wait in line for one. ) 


TORA.08 rule

2006-11-17 Thread Rejaine Monteiro


Is safe to use this?? Seems to work...

body ASCIISPAM  /([0123456789] ){5}/i
describe ASCIISPAM  ASCII SPAM
score ASCIISPAM 1.0


Can it get any simpler and not work?

2006-11-17 Thread twofers
I'm just doing some basic testing and what I think should be tagged as spam 
just goes right on thru.
   
  I've added this to local.cf
   
  headerMY_RULESubject =~ /test/i
  describe MY_RULE There is test in the Subject
score MY_RULE100
   
  I restart spamassassin.
   
  Then from a different ISP I send an email to one of the accounts guarded by 
spamassassin with one word, test, in the Subject.
   
  Doesn't even slow it down, then at the same time other email gets tagged as 
spam for the same account.
   
  What could I be doing wrong?
   
  Wes

 
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Re: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread Thiago LPS

On 11/17/06, Sietse van Zanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 To be more exact, the procedure would be:



1.   Save the image file, and the message

2.   Calculate the hash and delete it from the bad hash db with the
fuzzy-find.pl script

3.



In the body of mail marked as spam , i have the hash value...
so.. i removed this hash from hashdb...
it was happen because i didnt yet apply the Patch to only include in hasb db
pictures matched as pic-spam..
after removed the hash and applied the patch... the picture wasn't include
in the hasb db anymore..

but.. the question is: even with patch applied if some good-picture be
included in the hashdb nothing better than a white-hashdb to solve it.. :D
im not expert with perl.. but it doesnt sounds dificult to do.. :D




Create an empty wordlist, or fill it with some bogus words, that don't

appear in the image

4.   Update the FuzzyOcr.cf file to point to the new wordlist. If
you're using spamd don't restart, it'll keep using the correct wordlist.
Otherwise you might want to stop incoming mail for a little while.

5.   Pipe the message through FuccyOcr.pm directly, it'll put the hash
into the known good db.

6.   Correct the config. (and restart maild).

7.   Send in a feature request to update the fuzzy-find.pl script to
insert hashes into a db. ;-)



-Sietse



*From:* Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2006 20:09
*To:* Thiago LPS; users@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: image exception with FuzzyOCR??



Ofcourse, save the image, calculate the hash and then use the
fuzzy-find.pl script to delete it from the bad hash db.



Next you'll have to use a little trick to get it into the good hash db, as
that's not possible from the fuzzy-find.pl script.

Simply make an empty word list and yank the image through FuzzyOcr again.
It'll put it into the known good db.



-Sietse





*From:* Thiago LPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2006 18:25
*To:* users@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* image exception with FuzzyOCR??





Hello everybody...

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a SPAM... but
the FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??

i really dont want to disable the Hashdb...






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C.E.S.A.R - Administrador de Sistemas
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xx 81 8735 2591
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RE: Can it get any simpler and not work?

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
A subject like: I'm attesting your knowledge of SA would match.

See? atTESTing matches.

You probably would do something like

Subject =~ /\wtest\w/i

(\w means word boundary).

Which subjects got matched?

giampaolo
  -Original Message-
  From: twofers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:47 PM
  To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Subject: Can it get any simpler and not work?


  I'm just doing some basic testing and what I think should be tagged as
spam just goes right on thru.

  I've added this to local.cf

  headerMY_RULESubject =~ /test/i
  describe MY_RULE There is test in the Subject
  score MY_RULE100

  I restart spamassassin.

  Then from a different ISP I send an email to one of the accounts guarded
by spamassassin with one word, test, in the Subject.

  Doesn't even slow it down, then at the same time other email gets tagged
as spam for the same account.

  What could I be doing wrong?

  Wes



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Could THIS have doubled my SA Speed...

2006-11-17 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
RE: Could THIS have doubled my SA Speed...

First, I'm using a windows Port of SA... and I use this as a helper application 
in addition to my own custom programmed spam filter. Along these lines, I 
purposely have RBL checks and URI checks disabled in SA because I do these 
myself. But I **do** have Razor2 and DCC enabled.

Anyways, I was trying to see what I could do to speed SA up as it seemed slower 
than it used to be.

I tried adding a resolv.conf file (which wasn't previously there) and entered 
my local DNS caching server there.

Then, I restarted SpamD and ran a corpus of 50 test files through SA (using a 
batch file, processing them one-by-one)... and this 2nd time it processed twice 
as fast. I ask if these results sound correct because I figure that my results 
might be anidotal. Does this type of speedup sound correct?

I know that using a local DNS caching server can speed things up, but I was 
only specifying the SAME one what was already the default DNS server in my NIC 
card setup... so I would have thought that this would have already been the one 
chosen.

But I have another question:

It stands to reason that, even though I have RBLs and URI-checked turned off, 
there must be something ELSE that is getting checked across the network (via 
DNS)... or OTHER DNS traffic besides just RAZOR and DCC. Any ideas what that 
might be?

I guess I was a bit surprised at this speedup since I have most of these 
DNS-type checks disabled. (But maybe there is still more going on via DNS that 
I realize?)

Thanks!

Rob McEwen
PowerView Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: would SA benefit from port to Java

2006-11-17 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 Thinking about the GPL Java announcement some, and trying to imagine the
 kinds of opportunities this allows for, it occurs to me that SpamAssassin
 might be a natural fit for Java.
 
 I'm just thinking out loud here, not advocating anything...
 
 Would it run better? Would it be faster, have smaller memory footprint,
 better reclamation, better hooks for plugins etc?

It would probably run better. I wouldn't say it would work faster. I know for 
shure it would have a much bigger memory footprint... :)


 OTOH, would it be harder to build, given the dependence of SA on perl modules?

This is the main reason for not just starting with it.

Besides, if there wasn't SA pluging, I would prefer a C/C++ version of SA. 
Wouldn't it run better? Wouldn't it be faster, wouldn't have a smaller memory 
footprint, better reclamation, better hooks for plugins etc? :)

giampaolo


 
 Thoughts?
 
 -- 
 Eric A. Hallhttp://www.ehsco.com/
 Internet Core Protocols  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/



Re: would SA benefit from port to Java

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

Thinking about the GPL Java announcement some, and trying to imagine the
kinds of opportunities this allows for, it occurs to me that SpamAssassin
might be a natural fit for Java.

I'm just thinking out loud here, not advocating anything...

Would it run better?


What does that even mean?  Run better?


Re: Rules Du Jour briken?

2006-11-17 Thread Chris Thielen
I emailed the maintainer of exit0.us asking about the wiki site.  Here 
is what he said:


Thanks for the concern Chris, I appreciate it. To make a long story 
short, the person that offered to host the site (Matt) no longer works 
at that company. So without contacting me, they removed the site. Matt 
is going to get me the database from the site. So what I'm going to work 
on, now that I have time, is repairing the site and moving it back out 
to a server. I have no idea as to how long that will take since I plan 
on moving it to different wiki software that will hopefully be less 
prone to wiki vandalism.


You can forward this out to the SA community if you want.

AltGrendel



I am trying to piece together the information that was in the wiki using 
google cache, wayback, etc.  In the meantime, you can get the script 
itself from http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour


Chris Thielen



twofers wrote:

Is this link having problems that anyone knows of?
 
http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour
 
I can't get to Rules Du Jour.
 
Thanks,
 
Wes



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more ascii art spam

2006-11-17 Thread Peter H. Lemieux
I just got a new one with the usual drugs displayed in larged ascii art. 
 It was nearly unreadable, and it didn't pass my SA checks either.


Peter



RE: Bayes column 'token'

2006-11-17 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: woensdag 15 november 2006 18:15
 To: 'users@spamassassin.apache.org'
 Subject: RE: Bayes column 'token'
 
   Well, bayes_mysql.sql does not specify collation; so, like
   you said, the collation will be your MySQL server-set default. And
   searches in MySQL are case-insensitive by default. Might indeed
   perhaps be a good idea to convert to latin1_bin or some such.
 
  There will be any problem if I convert the current data to the new
  collation?
 
 I see no indication (or reason) in the code that tokens are 
 to be handled in an case-insensitive manner. The opposite, ere.
 So, I'm inclined to say that latin1_bin collation is better.
 I don't wanna be responsible for messing up your database, though. :)
 So I will test this a bit on my Vmware box.

Did the testing; and it works very smooth with latin1_bin.

   PRIMARY for `id` and `token` should not have INDEX for `id`
   and `token` added, too.
 
  I don't understand what you mean.
  The couple (id, token) is PRIMARY, not INDEX...
  Where exactly is the problem?
 
 PRIMARY, like UNIQUE, always implies INDEX, too. So, adding 
 an extra INDEX for `id` and `token` basically gives you a double
 INDEX for them.

There's a double INDEX for `atime` too. So, I'd say, in
bayes_mysql.sql, replace this:

CREATE TABLE bayes_token (
  id int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  token char(5) NOT NULL default '',
  spam_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  ham_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  atime int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  PRIMARY KEY  (id, token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx2 (id, atime)
) TYPE=MyISAM;

With:

CREATE TABLE bayes_token (
  id int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  token char(5) COLLATE latin1_bin NOT NULL default '',
  spam_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  ham_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  atime int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  PRIMARY KEY (id, token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (atime)
) TYPE=MyISAM;

- Mark



Re: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

2006-11-17 Thread decoder

Thiago LPS wrote:



On 11/17/06, *Sietse van Zanen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To be more exact, the procedure would be:

 


1.   Save the image file, and the message

2.   Calculate the hash and delete it from the bad hash db
with the fuzzy-find.pl script

3.


In the body of mail marked as spam , i have the hash value...
so.. i removed this hash from hashdb...
it was happen because i didnt yet apply the Patch to only include in 
hasb db pictures matched as pic-spam..
after removed the hash and applied the patch... the picture wasn't 
include in the hasb db anymore..


but.. the question is: even with patch applied if some good-picture be 
included in the hashdb nothing better than a white-hashdb to solve 
it.. :D

im not expert with perl.. but it doesnt sounds dificult to do.. :D
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but FuzzyOcr 3.x has already 
a whitelist hashdb :)



And for all the others, I just checked in revision 40, which contains a 
modified fuzzy-find script, to be found at


http://fuzzyocr.own-hero.net/browser/trunk/devel/Utils/fuzzy-find

Please note that this is bleeding edge, if you want to try it out, go 
for it, but backup the database first in case something breaks...



The script now features --learn-spam, and --learn-ham which will 
manually add the hash of a given image file, i.e. fuzzy-find --learn-ham 
somepic.gif



Best regards,

Chris




 


Create an empty wordlist, or fill it with some bogus words, that
don't appear in the image

4.   Update the FuzzyOcr.cf file to point to the new wordlist.
If you're using spamd don't restart, it'll keep using the correct
wordlist. Otherwise you might want to stop incoming mail for a
little while.

5.   Pipe the message through FuccyOcr.pm directly, it'll put
the hash into the known good db.

6.   Correct the config. (and restart maild).

7.   Send in a feature request to update the fuzzy-find.pl
script to insert hashes into a db. ;-)

 


-Sietse

 


*From:* Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2006 20:09
*To:* Thiago LPS; users@spamassassin.apache.org
mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* RE: image exception with FuzzyOCR??

 


Ofcourse, save the image, calculate the hash and then use the
fuzzy-find.pl script to delete it from the bad hash db.

 


Next you'll have to use a little trick to get it into the good
hash db, as that's not possible from the fuzzy-find.pl script.

Simply make an empty word list and yank the image through FuzzyOcr
again. It'll put it into the known good db.

 


-Sietse

 

 


*From:* Thiago LPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2006 18:25
*To:* users@spamassassin.apache.org
mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* image exception with FuzzyOCR??

 




Hello everybody...

there is a way to do a exception to some image that isn't a
SPAM... but the FuzzyOCR thinks that it is a spam image??

i really dont want to disable the Hashdb...





--
--
Thiago LPS
C.E.S.A.R - Administrador de Sistemas
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xx 81 8735 2591
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Re: Bayes column 'token'

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Johnston

Mark wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 15 november 2006 18:15

To: 'users@spamassassin.apache.org'
Subject: RE: Bayes column 'token'


Well, bayes_mysql.sql does not specify collation; so, like
you said, the collation will be your MySQL server-set default. And
searches in MySQL are case-insensitive by default. Might indeed
perhaps be a good idea to convert to latin1_bin or some such.

There will be any problem if I convert the current data to the new
collation?
I see no indication (or reason) in the code that tokens are 
to be handled in an case-insensitive manner. The opposite, ere.

So, I'm inclined to say that latin1_bin collation is better.
I don't wanna be responsible for messing up your database, though. :)
So I will test this a bit on my Vmware box.


Did the testing; and it works very smooth with latin1_bin.


PRIMARY for `id` and `token` should not have INDEX for `id`
and `token` added, too.

I don't understand what you mean.
The couple (id, token) is PRIMARY, not INDEX...
Where exactly is the problem?
PRIMARY, like UNIQUE, always implies INDEX, too. So, adding 
an extra INDEX for `id` and `token` basically gives you a double

INDEX for them.


There's a double INDEX for `atime` too. So, I'd say, in
bayes_mysql.sql, replace this:

CREATE TABLE bayes_token (
  id int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  token char(5) NOT NULL default '',
  spam_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  ham_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  atime int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  PRIMARY KEY  (id, token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx2 (id, atime)
) TYPE=MyISAM;

With:

CREATE TABLE bayes_token (
  id int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  token char(5) COLLATE latin1_bin NOT NULL default '',
  spam_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  ham_count int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  atime int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  PRIMARY KEY (id, token),
  INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (atime)
) TYPE=MyISAM;


Those are multi-column indexes not duplicates.

INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (id, atime)

is NOT the same as:

INDEX bayes_token_idx1 (id)
INDEX bayes_token_idx2 (atime)

Unless you've verified that the SQL used by the Bayes modules doesn't need these indexes, you 
probably shouldn't change these.


(sorry I didn't notice this earlier in the thread)


Re: Rules Du Jour briken?

2006-11-17 Thread twofers
Thanks Chris,
   
  Appreciate the effort.
   
  I emailed him yesterday but just with notification that the link was broken. 
I didn't hear back, but my request was informative, not inquisitive.
   
  Wes

Chris Thielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I emailed the maintainer of exit0.us asking about the wiki site. Here 
is what he said:

Thanks for the concern Chris, I appreciate it. To make a long story 
short, the person that offered to host the site (Matt) no longer works 
at that company. So without contacting me, they removed the site. Matt 
is going to get me the database from the site. So what I'm going to work 
on, now that I have time, is repairing the site and moving it back out 
to a server. I have no idea as to how long that will take since I plan 
on moving it to different wiki software that will hopefully be less 
prone to wiki vandalism.

You can forward this out to the SA community if you want.

AltGrendel



I am trying to piece together the information that was in the wiki using 
google cache, wayback, etc. In the meantime, you can get the script 
itself from http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour

Chris Thielen



twofers wrote:
 Is this link having problems that anyone knows of?
 
 http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour
 
 I can't get to Rules Du Jour.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Wes

 
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FuzzyOcr failing 'png' tests

2006-11-17 Thread snowcrash+spamassassin

(seems like the 'action' is over here ...)

i'm running SA v3.1.8-r454679, with the FuzzyOCR v3.4.2-release

$SA --lint is error-free.

testing the plugin with provided test messages,

$SA -t -x  /tmp/ocr-gif.eml
$SA -t -x  /tmp/ocr-jpg.eml
$SA -t -x  /dev/FuzzyOcr-3.4.2/samples/animated-gif.eml
$SA -t -x  /dev/FuzzyOcr-3.4.2/samples/corrupted-gif.eml
$SA -t -x  /dev/FuzzyOcr-3.4.2/samples/jpeg.eml
$SA -t -x  /dev/FuzzyOcr-3.4.2/samples/ocr-animated.eml

all show hits/scores with FuzzyOCR rules, as expected.

but,

$SA -t -x  /tmp/ocr-png.eml
$SA -t -x  /dev/FuzzyOcr-3.4.2/samples/png.eml

both complete without apparent error, and score numerous other SA-rule hits, but
no FuzzyOCR scores at all.

i have verified that i'm not auto-disabling FuzzyOcr,

 grep focr_autodisable_score FuzzyOcr.cf
   focr_autodisable_score 999

and, since a number of examples seem to be scoring properly, i'm
guessing either FuzzyOcr itself or my config have a problem.

1st question -- can anyone verify success/failure of those png
examples with their own SA+FuzzyOcr setup?

thanks.


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