[vchkpw] Looking for a good mailfilter
Hi foolks!
I look for a good mailfilter for my vpopmail.
My currently hae a bug with catch-all adresses:
import EXT
import HOST
VHOME=`/home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if (/^X-Spam-Status: *YES/)
{
exception {
to /var/spool/spam/
}
}
else
{
exception {
to $VHOME/Maildir/
}
}
The problem is the following:
If someone acitivated CATCH-ALL in qmailadmin and some sends an email to
an non-existing account,
the email will be dropped from my mailfilter.
The var $VHOME is not correct set because the mailadress is not
correctly.
So I need the target emailadresse, but dont know how to get this.
Does someone know what I mean? ;)
Have someone a working mailfilter for SA for me, please?
I try so much, but I do not found a solution.
Viele Gruesse,
Peter.
--
www: http://peter.tux.hm
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Re: [vchkpw] Looking for a good mailfilter
Hallo Peter,
At 14:36 27.04.04 +0200, you wrote:
Hi foolks!
I look for a good mailfilter for my vpopmail.
My currently hae a bug with catch-all adresses:
import EXT
import HOST
VHOME=`/home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if (/^X-Spam-Status: *YES/)
{
exception {
to /var/spool/spam/
}
}
else
{
exception {
to $VHOME/Maildir/
}
}
The problem is the following:
If someone acitivated CATCH-ALL in qmailadmin and some sends an email to
an non-existing account,
the email will be dropped from my mailfilter.
The var $VHOME is not correct set because the mailadress is not
correctly.
So I need the target emailadresse, but dont know how to get this.
Schau Dir mal mein QMVC an, dann wirst Du (wahrscheinlich) auf die Lösung
kommen.
Zwei Fälle:
1. Du nutzt Qmails virtualdomains Machnismus.
domain1.com:vdomain1
Emails nach [EMAIL PROTECTED] werden zu [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Im qmail-local Environment (was Du abfragst) gilt dann folgendes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
LOCAL=vdomain1-user
HOST=domain1.com
USER=vdomain1
EXT=user
EXT2=user-IRGENDWAS
etc.
2. Setzt Du zugleich den qmail-users Mechanismus ein, wird
USER=- user per qmail-newu
Mit einem Shell-Kniff, der in meinem QMVC beschrieben ist, kannst du den
PREPEND loswerden.
mfg.
--eh.
Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de/
Wiener Weg 8, 50858 Cologne | T: +49 221 484 4923 | F: ...24
Re: [vchkpw] Looking for a good mailfilter
Hi Erwin! The problem is I have catch-all-accounts and the mailfilter do not know the catch-all-account, so the email get dropped. I show over your programm, but dont know if I understand everything Viele Gruesse, Peter. ;) -- www: http://peter.tux.hm www: http://tux.hm - Linux- und BSD-UserGroup im Weserbergland gpg: http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x690A1AC2
[vchkpw] Multiple open-smtp s?
I use vpopmail strictly for POP authentication on a particular server, and I'd like to make it so that a different SMTP server will read that POP server's open-smtp info *in addition* to its own to allow relaying. I'd like to do this without using MySQL. Can/should this be done using NFS and starting tcpserver with more than one '-x (say -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb AND -x/mnt/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb) or is there a better way to get another .cdb from another host in there? TIA, James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://3.am =
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail + postfix
On Monday 26 April 2004 10:18 am, Chris Ess wrote: How can we setup vpopmail to work with Postfix? Is necessary have qmail installed too? vpopmail was created for qmail only, postfix and qmail are two different MTA's so this is not a solution you can use with postfix. See this sentence from http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail.html : Inter7 has developed vpopmail (vchkpw), a free GPL software package, to provide an easy way to manage virtual email domains and non /etc/passwd email accounts on your qmail or Postfix mail servers. yup. So it looks like there should be a way to get it to work with Postfix. (Or someone needs to fix the page.) There's even a link for a short howto on the Inter7 page: http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/postfix.txt I think that's old, and it might not even be applicable to newer versions of vpopmail or postfix. That said, I have never used vpopmail with Postfix, nor do I ever plan to, so I can't vouch whether or not any of the above is accurate beyond face value. I neither use vpopmail with postfix, nor do I ever plan to. I'm sure there are those out there who do though (or have at least tried, successful or not), does anyone want to come forward and say yay or nay if it still works, or have a howto for it or something? If it no longer works with postfix I'll update the page and put the 'last known operable version' or something on there. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] creating maildir on the fly
On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:15 pm, Thiago Anderson Santos wrote: i need to smtp before pop3 with qmail + vpopmail can i help-me?? - Original Message - From: Tech Info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:59 AM Subject: [vchkpw] creating maildir on the fly Hello there, I have a qmail/vpopmail/mysql set-up running on Redhat 8, I would like to know how I can opt for 'creating user mailbox on the fly' option? Is there anyone who can help me out in this? Ansu where's your message? Oh wait, there it is, at the top of the email crammed between your MUA's quoting and the top of the body. If you're going to top post, at least make it so your post sticks out :\ Also, you seem to have a new question (unrelated to the post you replied to). Please start a new thread if you intend to ask an unrelated question. That being said: [yoinked from up top] On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:15 pm, Thiago Anderson Santos wrote: i need to smtp before pop3 with qmail + vpopmail can i help-me?? I assume you are referring to 'pop before smtp', which vpopmail has support for. Check out the INSTALL file in the root of your vpopmail source tree and look for 'roaming users' support. If you are having trouble implementing this, please formulate a question, with things you've tried, what you expected to happen, what did happen, and related startup scripts, vpopmail configure options, etc, that could be causing the problem. Here's a nice guide written by Charles Cazabon for posting questions to the qmail mailing list. It's written for the qmail list, but can be applied to other mailing lists. http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/writings/12-steps-to-qmail-list-bliss.html -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Major SMTP AUTH Issues
http://scriptkitchen.com/godkills.jpg -- please, think of the kittens On Monday 26 April 2004 08:43 am, Chris Miller wrote: exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 300 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l $LOCAL \ -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $VPOPUID -g $VPOPGID 0 smtp \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd $LOCAL /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /bin/true 21 I recommend Erwin's fixup, as it has bug fixes and updated functionality you may also want to investigate using the -H flag for tcpserver. Thanks, that fixed it. However, now SMTP is really slow (see my other message that should be coming through in a few minutes). To quote Jeremy Kister: you may also want to investigate using the -H flag for tcpserver. or, if that doesn't solve the problem you're having, if you could actually say what you mean by 'smtp is slow', then maybe someone can help you further. Also at this point, I believe we're off topic for the list, so you may want to try the qmail mailing list (or searching the archives, as, if this is what I think it is, it has been discussed NUMEROUS times on the mailing list, and is one of the most frequently asked questions on the qmail list) -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] smtp auth
On Monday 26 April 2004 02:59 am, signo wrote: i'm feel very stupid !!! it does not work!! VPOPUID=`id -g vpopmail` VPOPGID=`id -g vpopmail` LOCAL=`head -1 /var/qmail/control/me` MAXSMTPD=`head -1 /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 300 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l $LOCAL -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c $MAXSMTPD -u $VPOPUID -g $VPOPGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /bin/true 21 did you restart your smtp service after you modified the run script for it? -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
On Monday 26 April 2004 10:42 am, Steve Ames wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:09AM -0400, Chris Ess wrote: vpopmail was created for qmail only, postfix and qmail are two different MTA's so this is not a solution you can use with postfix. See this sentence from http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail.html : You can do it. But basically you need to install postfix and qmail and postfix just handles some of the MTA duties. MDA is still qmail. MDA with vpopmail is actually never qmail. qmail hands off delivery responsbilities to vdelivermail through the .qmail-default file in the domain's 'home directory' It would really be interesting to see vpopmail make the necessary changes to be less qmail specific. Vpopmail could become a solid virtual mail solution for a handful of MTA. so, bloat should be added so it will work with MTAs it wasn't designed for? I disagree. Qmail is a minority when it comes to MTA deployment. I disagree there also. qmail is probably the second most, if not the most, deployed MTA across the internet, and many different surveys have gone to show this. Also, this is WITH most new redhat installations coming with sendmail installed (and enabled) by default, which would skew this number, as sendmail might be running but it's not necessarily doing anything. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Looking for a good mailfilter
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 08:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Erwin! The problem is I have catch-all-accounts and the mailfilter do not know the catch-all-account, so the email get dropped. so tell it what the catchall account is. I show over your programm, but dont know if I understand everything Shall we guess what you don't understand? -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Multiple open-smtp s?
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use vpopmail strictly for POP authentication on a particular server, and I'd like to make it so that a different SMTP server will read that POP server's open-smtp info *in addition* to its own to allow relaying. I'd like to do this without using MySQL. Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl package (http://untroubled.org/relay-ctrl) is far better suited for this style of setup, and is safe to use over NFS (I know, I've done it) and doesn't require rebuilding a CDB for every authentication, etc. Can/should this be done using NFS and starting tcpserver with more than one '-x (say -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb AND -x/mnt/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb) or is there a better way to get another .cdb from another host in there? that's one way you could do it. Or you could run a 1 minute cron job to rsync the cdb file to the other servers, or a number of other things. However, I think you'll be much happier overall with relay-ctrl. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would really be interesting to see vpopmail make the necessary changes to be less qmail specific. Vpopmail could become a solid virtual mail solution for a handful of MTA. so, bloat should be added so it will work with MTAs it wasn't designed for? I disagree. Of course you do. You like qmail :) Seriously though you say bloat and that's a pretty loaded word. Immediately people think we don't want bloat. Bad idea. But in most cases we aren't talking about bloat, we're just talking about un-hardcoding a lot of qmail specific stuff and allowing options. Once when qmail was totally getting in my way I sat down and spent about an hour pondering how to remove it and replace it with postfix and still use vpopmail. I never went beyond the pondering stage because it just started working again *shudder* but most of it looked pretty staright forward code wise. Qmail is a minority when it comes to MTA deployment. I disagree there also. qmail is probably the second most, if not the most, deployed MTA across the internet, and many different surveys have gone to show this. Without pointing to DJB's website, care to back this up? I've seen lots of references to second most (including the title of the qmail page). However I don't think you can actually back that up and any numbers I've ever seen having it come close may have had it high in order but low in total percentage (i.e. the ones higher had WAY more percentage).. and those surveys are years old. *shrug* So... drop that line of argument or point to 3rd party references. I acknowledge that I fired the first shot by saying Qmail was a minority. I'll retract that because I can't find any recent surveys that aren't done by vendors :( Its not really relevent to the discussion anyway. Is it the goal of the vpopmail project to promote the use of vpopmail or to, by proxy, promote the use of qmail. Perhaps the main developers or steering people behind vpopmail would like to put out a little poll on the topic? Lastly we aren't talking about general deployment but deployment by those entities who might wish to have virtualized e-mail and multiple domains. Also, this is WITH most new redhat installations coming with sendmail installed (and enabled) by default, which would skew this number, as sendmail might be running but it's not necessarily doing anything. And not just redhat. Other linux and BSD varients come with sendmail. One that I know of comes with postfix. I don't know any that come with qmail. There's also a lot more Exchange out there these days. -Steve
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: MDA with vpopmail is actually never qmail. Except when using aliases that aren't stored in a MySQL table. And mailing lists, always. qmail hands off delivery responsbilities to vdelivermail through the .qmail-default file in the domain's 'home directory' So vdelivermail handles POP/IMAP mailboxes, and valiases (aliases stored in MySQL instead of .qmail-alias files). -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
Re: [vchkpw] remove_line() logic
On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Rick Widmer wrote: So, is there a reason for keeping the logic in delete_line(), or should I re-write it from scratch based on update_file()? Yes, I think you should. Others may disagree though... I could reduce the failure window even more by moving all the rename operations from delete_line and update_file into the functions that call them. That way all the renames would be done at nearly the same time, after all the files have been created. Is this worth doing? I don't think so. Doing so makes things more complex, but could avoid problems with only some files getting updated. I'd prefer the higher level code to call a single function that does ALL of the work (as it is now). -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Yah. One of my quick hacks pondered using vdelivermail as an MTA from postfix but it calls in too much qmail environment and it got icky. If I could have put that stuff on the command line instead I might have been in business without having to put in a wrapper. - Original Message - From: Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: MDA with vpopmail is actually never qmail. Except when using aliases that aren't stored in a MySQL table. And mailing lists, always. qmail hands off delivery responsbilities to vdelivermail through the .qmail-default file in the domain's 'home directory' So vdelivermail handles POP/IMAP mailboxes, and valiases (aliases stored in MySQL instead of .qmail-alias files). -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Steve Ames wrote: Qmail is a minority when it comes to MTA deployment. I disagree there also. qmail is probably the second most, if not the most, deployed MTA across the internet, and many different surveys have gone to show this. Without pointing to DJB's website, care to back this up? http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Lastly we aren't talking about general deployment but deployment by those entities who might wish to have virtualized e-mail and multiple domains. Yes, and it's with those where there's no alternative to qmail and vpopmail. At least, through a brief search of freshmeat, sf.net and google, I couldn't find anything that comes near vpopmail+qmailadmin+vqadmin+qmail. The problem with qmail is that it's not really developed any further. But given that, it has surprisingly little security-holes found ;-) But the applications more or less dictate the choice of the underlying platform. And the choice could be much worse. Also, this is WITH most new redhat installations coming with sendmail installed (and enabled) by default, which would skew this number, as sendmail might be running but it's not necessarily doing anything. And not just redhat. Other linux and BSD varients come with sendmail. One that I know of comes with postfix. SuSE I don't know any that come with qmail. I don't think anyone will do that. There's also a lot more Exchange out there these days. Yes, but people usually put proxies and paketfilters before that. At least, if they are not completely stupid (or ill-advised). It's very difficult (impossible?) to account for the usage of a MTA, when most of them are now hidden behind AV-gateways. Also: what do you count ? Just handling or actual mailboxes ? It's an endless debate. And until someone comes up with a real cool solution that allows to use postfix as a hosting-platform without writing everything from scratch, qmail and vpopmail are just going to stay around. Unless all those hosted MSFT-Exchange-crap (calendar, groupware) kills it. Unfortunately, OSS-equivalents of these don't work very well, yet. And they don't scale, I'm afraid. Rainer
Re: [vchkpw] remove_line() logic
Tom Collins wrote: On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Rick Widmer wrote: So, is there a reason for keeping the logic in delete_line(), or should I re-write it from scratch based on update_file()? Yes, I think you should. Others may disagree though... Rom: I assume you mean I should re-write the function. Those others have just a few hours to comment, before I start on it, and will probably be able to see the result in CVS within a day or two. Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *sent* to your mail server based on the headers and get a sampling that way. I'll mull this over and see how I might implement this, since our mail server handles over 400K messages a day, it should give us a good idea of what ISP's are using. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Rick Macdougall wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *sent* to your mail server based on the headers and get a sampling that way. I'll mull this over and see how I might implement this, since our mail server handles over 400K messages a day, it should give us a good idea of what ISP's are using. Regards, Rick Hey, I found some more: http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/ Quote: Due to AUP policy violations (Comcast) this will be the last survey done. Apparently NASA and the U.S. Navy did not like the unsolicited connections. ROTFL ;-) From the pages returned by a google search on smtp server survey, I'm afraid anyone who does that actively will be in deep trouble rather sooner than later. The passive approach makes more sense. qmail comes in at 8-10% in these surveys. Rainer Rainer
Re: [vchkpw] Multiple open-smtp s?
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use vpopmail strictly for POP authentication on a particular server, and I'd like to make it so that a different SMTP server will read that POP server's open-smtp info *in addition* to its own to allow relaying. I'd like to do this without using MySQL. Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl package (http://untroubled.org/relay-ctrl) is far better suited for this style of setup, and is safe to use over NFS (I know, I've done it) and doesn't require rebuilding a CDB for every authentication, etc. Sounds like the trick, but will it also work with vchkpw? I couldn't find any indication on Bruce's site (and please don't make me join yet another mailing list to get this one answer!). One of my servers could do without vpopmail, since it's only using it for pop auth, but the other has virtual users. TIA! James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://3.am =
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
- Original Message - From: Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without pointing to DJB's website, care to back this up? http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. I know you didn't just point to DJB's website :) The credentia.cc (http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/) site shows (and it was done April 2003): 8244 38.78% Sendmail 3707 17.44% Microsoft IIS/Other 1981 9.32% qmail 1789 8.42% IMail 1244 5.85% Exim 1243 5.85% smap 825 3.88% CPMTA 537 2.53% Postfix 500 2.35% Microsoft Exchange 340 1.60% CheckPoint FireWall-1 848 3.99% Other Shows qmail in the number 3 slot. However when number 3 means 9.32% (and that's slightly lower than the previous survey 200301 survey so its going down) you gotta admin the minority. Making vpopmail work with sendmail (and that gets you postfix automatically almost). It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Yep. Yes, and it's with those where there's no alternative to qmail and vpopmail. At least, through a brief search of freshmeat, sf.net and google, I couldn't find anything that comes near vpopmail+qmailadmin+vqadmin+qmail. vpopmail being the biggest part to make the virtualization happen. The problem with qmail is that it's not really developed any further. But given that, it has surprisingly little security-holes found ;-) But the applications more or less dictate the choice of the underlying platform. And the choice could be much worse. Yep. No argument. But it could easily be way better :) It's very difficult (impossible?) to account for the usage of a MTA, when most of them are now hidden behind AV-gateways. Also: what do you count ? Just handling or actual mailboxes ? It's an endless debate. Yep. And until someone comes up with a real cool solution that allows to use postfix as a hosting-platform without writing everything from scratch, qmail and vpopmail are just going to stay around. Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make vpopmail work properly with other MTA. -Steve
Re: [vchkpw] remove_line() logic
On Apr 27, 2004, at 3:23 PM, Rick Widmer wrote: Rom: I assume you mean I should re-write the function. Yes, and I assume you mean Tom. ;-) -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:29 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *sent* to your mail server based on the headers and get a sampling that way. but that would be incredibly biased. For instance, I'd say probably 70% of the mail servers that send mail to me run qmail, if not a higher percentage. In a windows shop, you might get 70% exchange, etc. That's not a 'representative sample' I'll mull this over and see how I might implement this, since our mail server handles over 400K messages a day, it should give us a good idea of what ISP's are using. perhaps. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Steve Ames wrote: Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make vpopmail work properly with other MTA. Just jack up the user interface, and replace all the code that does the real work...
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:48 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote: Rick Macdougall wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/ qmail comes in at 8-10% in these surveys. out of 21,000 servers. weak survey. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kitchen @ #qmail on EFNet - Join the party! . Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. www.inter7.com 866.528.3530 toll free 847.492.0470 int'l 847.492.0632 fax GNUPG key ID: 93BDD6CE
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of 21,000 servers. weak survey. Agreed. I couldn't find a better one. The ones on DJBs page are old and the newest one (2001) has less than 1000 servers. 21000 seemed more representative. *shrug* -Steve
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
- Original Message - From: Rick Widmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make vpopmail work properly with other MTA. Just jack up the user interface, and replace all the code that does the real work... I don't believe that's true... especially in an SQL environment. The vpopmail tools mostly do the right thing now. vdelivermail is almost usable as is. I'm not sure which user interface your referring to? -Steve
Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix
Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:29 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *sent* to your mail server based on the headers and get a sampling that way. but that would be incredibly biased. For instance, I'd say probably 70% of the mail servers that send mail to me run qmail, if not a higher percentage. In a windows shop, you might get 70% exchange, etc. That's not a 'representative sample' Hi, As I stated, we are an ISP, not an end user. I think our stats will tend to reflect what the majority of ISP (hence majority of high volume mail servers) are using. Still have to think of a good way to do it though. Regards, Rick
