Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-30 Thread Rick Widmer
Steve Ames wrote: Am I reading into this statement that vpopmail is already in the process of layering the code in such a manner as to isolate qmail thus allowing, potentially, other MTA libraries to be added and used? If thats the case then I will positively help in whatever way is needed. I h

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-29 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: "Rick Widmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you want to do something, grab the latest development CVS from > SourceFORGE and get familiar with the code. Mbowe has a number of good > comments in the source code on things that need to be done. Pick one > and submit

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-28 Thread Rick Widmer
Steve Ames wrote: - Original Message - From: "Rick Widmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make vpopmail work properly with other MTA. Just jack up the user interface, and replace all the code that does the real work... I don't beli

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-28 Thread Craig Green
Rainer Duffner wrote: Steve Ames wrote: Lastly we aren't talking about general deployment but deployment by those entities who might wish to have virtualized e-mail and multiple domains. Yes, and it's with those where there's no alternative to qmail and vpopmail. At least, through a brief sear

RE: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-28 Thread Joseph Schmitt II
> (http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/) > 8244 38.78% Sendmail > 3707 17.44% Microsoft IIS/Other > 1981 9.32% qmail > > Shows qmail in the number 3 slot. I'm hoping you don't consider MS IIS/SMTP service as a MDA... And remember as a MTA, it probably has no re

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Rick Macdougall
Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:29 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *sent* to your mail server based on the headers and get a sampling that way. but that would be incredibly biased. For instance, I'd say probably 70%

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: "Rick Widmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make > > vpopmail work properly with other MTA. > > Just jack up the user interface, and replace all the code that does the > real work... I don't believe that

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > out of 21,000 servers. weak survey. Agreed. I couldn't find a better one. The ones on DJBs page are old and the newest one (2001) has less than 1000 servers. 21000 seemed more representative. *shrug* -Steve

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:48 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Rick Macdougall wrote: > > Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt > >> That's from 2001. > http://www.credentia.cc/research/surveys/smtp/200304/ > qmail comes in at 8-10% in these surveys. out of 21,000 serv

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Rick Widmer
Steve Ames wrote: Right. However what I'm saying is that it wouldn't take much to make vpopmail work properly with other MTA. Just jack up the user interface, and replace all the code that does the real work...

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:29 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: > Rainer Duffner wrote: > > http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt > > That's from 2001. > > > > It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. > > The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of > > d

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: "Rainer Duffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Without pointing to DJB's website, care to back this up? > > > > > http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt > That's from 2001. I know you didn't just point to DJB's website :) The credentia.cc (http://www.credentia.cc/r

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rick Macdougall wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Hi, That would be a fun script to writ

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Rick Macdougall
Rainer Duffner wrote: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt That's from 2001. It would be a fun project to try to do that again, though. The biggest challenge will probably be to get a representative sample of domains and MXs Hi, That would be a fun script to write. See what mail server *s

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Rainer Duffner
Steve Ames wrote: Qmail is a minority when it comes to MTA deployment. I disagree there also. qmail is probably the second most, if not the most, deployed MTA across the internet, and many different surveys have gone to show this. Without pointing to DJB's website, care to bac

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Ames
: "Tom Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix > On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: > > MDA with vpopmail is actually never qmail. > > Except whe

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Tom Collins
On Apr 27, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: MDA with vpopmail is actually never qmail. Except when using aliases that aren't stored in a MySQL table. And mailing lists, always. qmail hands off delivery responsbilities to vdelivermail through the .qmail-default file in the domain's 'home d

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It would really be interesting to see vpopmail make the necessary > > changes to be less qmail specific. Vpopmail could become a solid > > virtual mail solution for a handful of MTA. > > so, bloat should be added so it wi

Re: [vchkpw] Re: vpopmail with Postifix

2004-04-27 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Monday 26 April 2004 10:42 am, Steve Ames wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:09AM -0400, Chris Ess wrote: > > > vpopmail was created for qmail only, postfix and qmail are two > > > different MTA's so this is not a solution you can use with postfix. > > > > See this sentence from http://www.i

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