Re: [vdr] frequent xine crashes with vdr

2010-08-17 Thread martinez
Hi Reinhard,

Unfortunately I can not reproduce it anymore, because in the meantimeI 
installed a newer version of xine-lib and the problem disappeared.
What I notice is that using vdpau, on 28e BBC HD for example drops many frames 
(unwatchable, although cpu load remains low), whereas using xv the same 
channels plays perfectly
(although ITV1 HD even using xv drops some frames)
So for me it is xv for now as vdpau does not seem quite mature

Regards,

Art
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Pertti Kosunen

On 16.8.2010 19:05, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:

Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these
non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI?


http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210%2C_GT220%2C_or_GT240

Don't know is that 5.1 or 7.1. XBMC forum has long thread about this.

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Hi,

On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 19:05 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:

 Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these
 non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI?

Yes, as VDR User said, the latest generation VP4/VDPAU feature set C
cards (GeForce 210, GT 220, ...) have an integrated audio controller.
The ALSA driver should support 7.1 channel PCM too.

Some older cards have an S/PDIF input header but they don't support
multichannel PCM, obviously.


 I got as PM one tip that pointed to this page
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Table_of_PureVideo_.28HD.29_GPUs
 
 I wonder if some smaller number cheaper model with similar VP4/C skills
 would do? E.g. Asus EN210 Silent? It could also produce less heat? The
 text in Wikipedia is not perfectly in line with the table so I wonder if
 GT2xx is needed for best VDPAU support.

IMO the only reason to go for a separate card over ION would be higher
quality 1080i deinterlacing. You'll need GT 220 for that since GeForce
210 is only slightly faster than ION. They have the same video processor
and therefore the same video decoding capabilities, but post-processing
is done on the graphics cores.


 It seems that the IONs are VP3/B so your prosal is certainly better (if
 there is HDMI audio support).

ION2 has VP4/C, I think.

If you don't need advanced 1080i deinterlacing, Asus AT5IONT-I is a very
good option right now. It has ION2, latest dualcore Atom and USB3, and
it's passively cooled.

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Re: [vdr] xine, eepg and 64 bits

2010-08-17 Thread Dominic Evans
On 15 August 2010 07:44,  marti...@embl.de wrote:
 b) sometimes when changing channel something very weird happens with xine,
 it freezes and I need to kill xine and open it again to zap to
 the new channel. The error log is clear, but how do I fix this?

I've also had this problem with xineliboutput on 64-bits using the
pre-compiled yaVDR packages.

I had to recompile the xineliboutput packages with the gcc
optimization flags (-O2) disabled to fix the issue.

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Rene
On 15.8.2010 21:59, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My old HTPC motherboard died and I'm now looking for a new one to become
 a vdr-sxfe thin client. The old Silverstone case is for normal ATX
 board but I no more need PCI slots so a smaller one, even a Mini-ITX
 would do. Since the PC runs 24/7 I'm interested in low-power
 motherboards with Atom CPU. There should be VDPAU support for MPEG-2
 SDTV decoding + high-quality de-interlacing. I'm watching also sometimes
 H.264 HDTV channels from satellite. There should be 1080p50 video + up
 7.1ch multi-channel PCM audio over HDMI. I'd like to get rid of SPDIF
 connection to AV-receiver.
 
 My HTPC box has a home-brew LIRC receiver that connected to motherboard
 (Asus style) COM port heading. If COM ports are history I could change
 to Bluetooth remote control with a PS3 Blu-Ray remote. Therefore
 integrated BT support would be nice (otherwise some USB-BT dongle). WLAN
 is not mandatory since I stream from vdr server over gigabit ethernet.
 Are there still issues with some ethernet chipsets and Linux?
 
 I found some options such as Asus AT3IONT-I DELUXE, Asus AT3IONT-I, Asus
 AT5IONT-I. I would be happy to hear experiences about these motherboards
 with Linux and Xine. Are there problems with some motherboard features?
 Other recommendations are welcome too!
 
 Cheers,
 Seppo

Hi Seppo,

I'm also starting to check for a new setup, and i'm on the same line as
you: Silent, low-power device that will runn 24/7. I have not yet looked
too much around, but there is one thing i'm wondering. What kind of
dvb-devices will you use? My current setup has two pci-cards, Full
featured Technoternd dvb-s, and an other TT budget dvb-t. I have to
replace the dvb-t card with dvb-c, because i will soon move to an area
with cable-tv.. Is it possible to go with completely dvb-usb devices?
Are thet reliable enough to not freeze/crash etc?

Regards,

René

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear VDR folks,


Am Sonntag, den 15.08.2010, 21:59 +0300 schrieb Seppo Ingalsuo:

 My old HTPC motherboard died and I'm now looking for a new one to become 
 a vdr-sxfe thin client. The old Silverstone case is for normal ATX 
 board but I no more need PCI slots so a smaller one, even a Mini-ITX 
 would do. Since the PC runs 24/7 I'm interested in low-power 
 motherboards with Atom CPU. There should be VDPAU support for MPEG-2 
 SDTV decoding + high-quality de-interlacing. I'm watching also sometimes 
 H.264 HDTV channels from satellite. There should be 1080p50 video + up 
 7.1ch multi-channel PCM audio over HDMI. I'd like to get rid of SPDIF 
 connection to AV-receiver.
 
 My HTPC box has a home-brew LIRC receiver that connected to motherboard 
 (Asus style) COM port heading. If COM ports are history I could change 
 to Bluetooth remote control with a PS3 Blu-Ray remote. Therefore 
 integrated BT support would be nice (otherwise some USB-BT dongle). WLAN 
 is not mandatory since I stream from vdr server over gigabit ethernet. 
 Are there still issues with some ethernet chipsets and Linux?
 
 I found some options such as Asus AT3IONT-I DELUXE, Asus AT3IONT-I, Asus 
 AT5IONT-I. I would be happy to hear experiences about these motherboards 
 with Linux and Xine. Are there problems with some motherboard features? 
 Other recommendations are welcome too!

is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
drivers.

The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build
in. But those devices do not seem to be available in non Asian regions.

AMD/ATI or Intel should also over some products fitting your need. And I
heard the drivers matured quite a bit (besides Intel Poulsbo).

Unfortunately I do not own such systems.


Thanks,

Paul


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[vdr] vdr: [2795] ERROR: remote control XineRemote not ready!

2010-08-17 Thread martinez
I wonder if somebody who understands fully the interaction between lirc, xine 
and vdr can help me debug my setup.
The PC has no keyboard or mouse connected and it is operated exclusively via 
the remote control for most of the part and ssh for the rest

I have only one irritating bug, I use oxine as a front end (then calling shells 
as appropiate) and it I do not press any key on the remote for approximately 5 
minutes while on this screen, the remote ceases to operate until I reboot
(once this happens if I run irw I can see output as usual) I wonder if it is 
because my setup, although working perhaps it is kind of not optimal.

My remote is the type that uses input events (comes with the hauppagge sat 
card)  using dev/input in lirc

dmesg |grep input6
input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge WinTV-HVR400 as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:08.0/:01:06.2/rc/rc0/input6

In xine itself I was not able to map the special vdr commands (I tried but 
would not recognise most buttons)  so I am not using that feature.

My remote.conf 

#LIRC.Up ArrowUp
#LIRC.Down   ArrowDown
#LIRC.Left   ArrowLeft
#LIRC.Right  ArrowRight
#LIRC.Ok Enter
#LIRC.Pause  Pause
LIRC.Stop   Stop
LIRC.Record Record
LIRC.Play   Play
LIRC.0  0
LIRC.1  1
LIRC.2  2
...

I commented out the Arrow buttons because otherwise I was getting duplicate 
responses (for example I would press once the down button and it would go down 
twice, not one)



I call vdr from a script with vdr -c /etc/vdr -E /var/epgvdr --lirc --no-kbd -l 
1 -P'xine -r' 

I have the powerbutton mapped to kill xine (so the script continues and returns 
to the oxine menu once xine is not running anymore and this works fine) 
begin
button = Power
prog   = irexec
repeat = 0
config = sudo killall xine mms
end


and finally mappings for xine itself:

begin
button = Power
prog   = irexec
repeat = 0
config = sudo killall xine mms
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = Menu
config = OSDStreamInfos
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = Enter
config = EventSelect
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = Pause
config = Pause
config = OSDStreamInfos

end
begin
prog   = xine
button = PrevSong
config = SeekRelative-30
end
begin
prog   = xine
button = NextSong
config = SeekRelative+30
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = ArrowLeft
config = EventLeft
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = ArrowRight
config = EventRight
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = ArrowUp
config = EventUp
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = ArrowDown
config = EventDown
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = Power
config = Quit
end


begin
prog   = xine
button = BackExit
config = back
end


begin
prog   = xine
button = VolumeUp
config = Volume+
repeat = 2
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = VolumeDown
repeat = 2
config = Volume-
end


begin
prog   = xine
button = ChannelUp
config = ZoomIn
end

begin
prog   = xine
button = ChannelDown
config = ZoomOut
end


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Re: [vdr] vdr: [2795] ERROR: remote control XineRemote not ready!

2010-08-17 Thread Tony Houghton
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:44:47 +0200
martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:

 I commented out the Arrow buttons because otherwise I was getting
 duplicate responses (for example I would press once the down button
 and it would go down twice, not one)

That might be because input devices generate keyboard events, so xine
gets a keyboard event and a lirc event. Similarly OK = Enter. See
whether lirc has an option to grab the device exclusively; that will
prevent the extra keyboard events. Alternatively there's an
lirc-compatible program especially for input devices, called inputlirc,
and I'm pretty sure that has a grab option.

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

 
 is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
 components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
 drivers.
 
 The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build
 in. But those devices do not seem to be available in non Asian regions.
 
 AMD/ATI or Intel should also over some products fitting your need. And I
 heard the drivers matured quite a bit (besides Intel Poulsbo).
 
 Unfortunately I do not own such systems.

I installed vdr-sxfe to Poulsbo/GMA500 netbook but there is no Xv and VA API is 
not supported by xine-lib. There is mplayer support but I don't know if 
deintelacing is good. I haven't tried.
An unscaled window works but fullscreen is horrible. The real Intel graphics 
stuff is likely better but I have no experience about that. 

Seppo
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:56 +0300, Rene wrote:

 I'm also starting to check for a new setup, and i'm on the same line as
 you: Silent, low-power device that will runn 24/7. I have not yet looked
 too much around, but there is one thing i'm wondering. What kind of
 dvb-devices will you use? 

I use the multiple vdr instance hack proposed in xineliboutput
documentation. My 2xDVB-T(dual tuners) and DVB-S2 cards are PCI and they
are in a separate home server that runs in non-living areas of the
house so noise doesn't matter. There are also several hard disks. 

I don't know what happens if that mobo dies. It could be difficult to
find motherboards with enough legacy PCI slots. I need four because
there's also one extra network card.

 My current setup has two pci-cards, Full
 featured Technoternd dvb-s, and an other TT budget dvb-t. I have to
 replace the dvb-t card with dvb-c, because i will soon move to an area
 with cable-tv.. Is it possible to go with completely dvb-usb devices?
 Are thet reliable enough to not freeze/crash etc?

At least for dish I need PCI type of card because USB cards do not
output enough power for a motorized positioner.

BR,
Seppo



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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:39 +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote:
 Yes, as VDR User said, the latest generation VP4/VDPAU feature set C
 cards (GeForce 210, GT 220, ...) have an integrated audio controller.
 The ALSA driver should support 7.1 channel PCM too.
 

I found that someone has had success with such cards

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143610page=4


 IMO the only reason to go for a separate card over ION would be higher
 quality 1080i deinterlacing. You'll need GT 220 for that since GeForce
 210 is only slightly faster than ION. They have the same video processor
 and therefore the same video decoding capabilities, but post-processing
 is done on the graphics cores.

Good point. I think 1080i is rare content for me. If ION is as good as a
GT220 with 576i, 720p and 1080p then it could be very suitable for my
needs.

 
 
  It seems that the IONs are VP3/B so your prosal is certainly better (if
  there is HDMI audio support).
 
 ION2 has VP4/C, I think.
 
 If you don't need advanced 1080i deinterlacing, Asus AT5IONT-I is a very
 good option right now. It has ION2, latest dualcore Atom and USB3, and
 it's passively cooled.

It's an interesting new board but I wonder if there's some risk for
problems. I tried to search but I could not find reports about success
with Ubuntu or Linux generally. Do Nvidia's binary graphics drivers
support ION2?

BR,
Seppo



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Re: [vdr] frequent xine crashes with vdr

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:45 AM, martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:
 Unfortunately I can not reproduce it anymore, because in the meantimeI 
 installed a newer version of xine-lib and the problem disappeared.
 What I notice is that using vdpau, on 28e BBC HD for example drops many 
 frames (unwatchable, although cpu load remains low), whereas using xv the 
 same channels plays perfectly
 (although ITV1 HD even using xv drops some frames)
 So for me it is xv for now as vdpau does not seem quite mature

I read a lot of complaints about BBC HD.  That surely appears to be a
problem channel.  However, vdpau is working great for many users,
hopefully soon you'll be able to join us. ;)

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Re: [vdr] vdr: [2795] ERROR: remote control XineRemote not ready!

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:44 AM, martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:
 I wonder if somebody who understands fully the interaction between lirc, xine 
 and vdr can help me debug my setup.
 The PC has no keyboard or mouse connected and it is operated exclusively via 
 the remote control for most of the part and ssh for the rest

I have the same type of setup although I'm using a serial ir on my
main VDR box.  I get that ERROR: remote control XineRemote not
ready! message in my logs as well but I just ignore it because
everything seems to work fine.

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Hi Paul,

On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 17:13 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:

 is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
 components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
 drivers.

Hardware decoding through VA-API is working on some Intel chipsets and
CPUs, but I haven't seen any usable GPU deinterlacing implementations
besides those in Nvidia's VDPAU.

AMD's XvBA is closed and still too buggy to be used in practice. I
haven't heard much about S3/VIA. Broadcom CrystalHD has open-source
drivers, but it also doesn't deinterlace anything.

This page list all VA-API compatible hardware solutions:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi


So, basically it's either Intel or Broadcom CrystalHD with open-source
drivers or Nvidia with closed ones. Only Nvidia and CrystalHD hardware
decoding is usable on Atom-based motherboards. For the Intel way, you'd
need to step up to something based on GM45 or Core i3 and forget about
fancy 1080i deinterlacing and other postprocessing.

--

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
 components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
 drivers.

Just wondering why you even care about this...  The Nvidia drivers
work well for me and honestly that's all I care about.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time

2010-08-17 Thread JJussi

 Hi!
I found fix to this problem..  After removing .xine directory (from 
home of 'vdr'; user what runs vdr-sxfe) pausing works as it should be.. 
When vdr-sxfe starts, it created again that .xine directory.. But it 
(directory) stays empty.
After creating config_xineliboutput to that directory (file is empty; 
touch config_xineliboutput) problem returns, but not every time when you 
try to pause playback...


Strange!

On 11.8.2010 14.54, Scott Waye wrote:
Yes, I have same symptoms, no vdpau here.  I put it down to the client 
clearing through its buffer, but that's just a guess.


Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: JJussi v...@jjussi.com
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 12:47
Subject: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time
To: VDR list vdr@linuxtv.org

 Hi!
I have
vdr (1.7.14/1.7.14) - The Video Disk Recorder
skinsoppalusikka (1.7.1) - Soppalusikka skin
xineliboutput (1.0.90-cvs) - X11/xine-lib output plugin

problem is when I'm watching recording and press 'pause' -key, playback
is paused for about 1/10:th of second, then it countinues about 2-3
seconds before pausing totally.
This happens most of time when I press pause.. Some times (rarely) it
really pauses right away.

I have tested different (data) transfer methods (pipe, tcp, udp..) and
parameters when starting vdr-sxfe.. No luck!

Have anybody else have same kind of problems? These came when I changed
from version 1.6.x to current 1.7.x..

OH, one thing I have not yet tested.. What happen if I take vdpau off..
Vdpau was reason why I changend to 1.7.x versions.

--

JJussi






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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
On Tue, 2010-08-17 kello 19:36 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:39 +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote:
  IMO the only reason to go for a separate card over ION would be higher
  quality 1080i deinterlacing. You'll need GT 220 for that since GeForce
  210 is only slightly faster than ION. They have the same video processor
  and therefore the same video decoding capabilities, but post-processing
  is done on the graphics cores.
 
 Good point. I think 1080i is rare content for me. If ION is as good as a
 GT220 with 576i, 720p and 1080p then it could be very suitable for my
 needs.

ION 2 should be about as good as GT220 for those formats. Older ION
works too since you probably don't need all the new features in VDPAU
feature set C.


  If you don't need advanced 1080i deinterlacing, Asus AT5IONT-I is a very
  good option right now. It has ION2, latest dualcore Atom and USB3, and
  it's passively cooled.
 
 It's an interesting new board but I wonder if there's some risk for
 problems. I tried to search but I could not find reports about success
 with Ubuntu or Linux generally.

Yep, that's always the question with new hardware. I'd expect any
showstopping issues to be fixed pretty quickly though, at least on
Nvidia's side. Their Linux support has been quite outstanding in my
opinion.

 Do Nvidia's binary graphics drivers
 support ION2?

It should. The README lists it as Second Generation ION. See:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/README/supportedchips.html

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Re: [vdr] frequent xine crashes with vdr

2010-08-17 Thread Luca Olivetti

Al 17/08/10 18:40, En/na VDR User ha escrit:

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:45 AM, martinezmarti...@embl.de  wrote:

Unfortunately I can not reproduce it anymore, because in the meantimeI 
installed a newer version of xine-lib and the problem disappeared.
What I notice is that using vdpau, on 28e BBC HD for example drops many frames 
(unwatchable, although cpu load remains low), whereas using xv the same 
channels plays perfectly
(although ITV1 HD even using xv drops some frames)
So for me it is xv for now as vdpau does not seem quite mature


I read a lot of complaints about BBC HD.  That surely appears to be a
problem channel.  However, vdpau is working great for many users,
hopefully soon you'll be able to join us. ;)


BBCHD works perfectly with vdpau here, they changed the codec around 
last June, but the vdpau developers fixed it.

Make sure you're using the hg repository for xine 1.2
http://hg.debian.org/hg/xine-lib/xine-lib-1.2

(though I last updated it last June).

Bye
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Re: [vdr] xine, eepg and 64 bits

2010-08-17 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
When it freezes, try just letting it set for up to a minute. It often 
clears. Also, when that happens, check the logs. You might find vdr 
filled up it's buffers.


On 8/17/2010 3:47 AM, Dominic Evans wrote:

On 15 August 2010 07:44,marti...@embl.de  wrote:

b) sometimes when changing channel something very weird happens with xine,
it freezes and I need to kill xine and open it again to zap to
the new channel. The error log is clear, but how do I fix this?


I've also had this problem with xineliboutput on 64-bits using the
pre-compiled yaVDR packages.

I had to recompile the xineliboutput packages with the gcc
optimization flags (-O2) disabled to fix the issue.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time

2010-08-17 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
I use vdr-xine plugin instead and .xine only has 1 file, catalog.cache. 
It is a text readable file created by xine.


On 8/17/2010 9:51 AM, JJussi wrote:

Hi!
I found fix to this problem.. After removing .xine directory (from
home of 'vdr'; user what runs vdr-sxfe) pausing works as it should be..
When vdr-sxfe starts, it created again that .xine directory.. But it
(directory) stays empty.
After creating config_xineliboutput to that directory (file is empty;
touch config_xineliboutput) problem returns, but not every time when you
try to pause playback...

Strange!

On 11.8.2010 14.54, Scott Waye wrote:

Yes, I have same symptoms, no vdpau here. I put it down to the client
clearing through its buffer, but that's just a guess.

Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: JJussi v...@jjussi.com
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 12:47
Subject: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time
To: VDR list vdr@linuxtv.org

Hi!
I have
vdr (1.7.14/1.7.14) - The Video Disk Recorder
skinsoppalusikka (1.7.1) - Soppalusikka skin
xineliboutput (1.0.90-cvs) - X11/xine-lib output plugin

problem is when I'm watching recording and press 'pause' -key, playback
is paused for about 1/10:th of second, then it countinues about 2-3
seconds before pausing totally.
This happens most of time when I press pause.. Some times (rarely) it
really pauses right away.

I have tested different (data) transfer methods (pipe, tcp, udp..) and
parameters when starting vdr-sxfe.. No luck!

Have anybody else have same kind of problems? These came when I changed
from version 1.6.x to current 1.7.x..

OH, one thing I have not yet tested.. What happen if I take vdpau off..
Vdpau was reason why I changend to 1.7.x versions.

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 19:06 +0300 schrieb Seppo Ingalsuo:

  is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics 
  components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary 
  drivers. 
  
  The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build 
  in. But those devices do not seem to be available in non Asian regions. 
  
  AMD/ATI or Intel should also over some products fitting your need. And I 
  heard the drivers matured quite a bit (besides Intel Poulsbo). 
  
  Unfortunately I do not own such systems. 
 
 I installed vdr-sxfe to Poulsbo/GMA500 netbook but there is no Xv and
 VA API is not supported by xine-lib. There is mplayer support but I
 don't know if deintelacing is good. I haven't tried. 
 An unscaled window works but fullscreen is horrible. The real Intel
 graphics stuff is likely better but I have no experience about that. 

What driver did you use?

Anyway, »besides Intel Poulsbo« meant this chip is using closed drivers
and is not supported by xf86-video-intel and so it does not fit into my
wish list.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 09:48 -0700 schrieb VDR User:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Paul Menzel 
 paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
  is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
  components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
  drivers.
 
 Just wondering why you even care about this...  The Nvidia drivers
 work well for me and honestly that's all I care about.

Good for you. As I wrote I do not want to start a flame war. But you
asked. ;-)

Everyone should decide for himself what he wants. I am on the side of
Free Software and believe that it has more advantages than just »it
works«.

For example I believe supporting hardware requiring non-free software
puts more work to the distributions and people working on those because
they have to answer a lot of support request when people contact them
and not Nvidia and they cannot fix problems because they do not have
access to the code. Secondly I guess you will find a lot of requests for
fixes the Nvidia driver which have not been accomplished.

I think you will find a lot of information about this whole issue on the
Internet and others can lay down the points better than I can. But as I
said, it is just an axiom, so you cannot argue what is right or wrong.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Just wondering why you even care about this...  The Nvidia drivers
 work well for me and honestly that's all I care about.

 Good for you. As I wrote I do not want to start a flame war. But you
 asked. ;-)

 Everyone should decide for himself what he wants. I am on the side of
 Free Software and believe that it has more advantages than just »it
 works«.

 For example I believe supporting hardware requiring non-free software
 puts more work to the distributions and people working on those because
 they have to answer a lot of support request when people contact them
 and not Nvidia and they cannot fix problems because they do not have
 access to the code. Secondly I guess you will find a lot of requests for
 fixes the Nvidia driver which have not been accomplished.

 I think you will find a lot of information about this whole issue on the
 Internet and others can lay down the points better than I can. But as I
 said, it is just an axiom, so you cannot argue what is right or wrong.

I just wondered what your reasoning is, nothing more.  There's
absolutely no reason you should assume it's attempt to start a flame
war or argue.  There is no crime in people having different points
of view.  I've now lost interest in this thread but thanks for sharing
your opinion.  Good luck in your qwest.

Cheers,
Derek

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Re: [vdr] check cam status [writing plugin help needed]

2010-08-17 Thread Simon Baxter
I'd like to write a plugin which can provide the displayed SetupCAM 
status via an SVDRP command, and maybe check the CAM menu can be accessed.


As a beginner to such things, can someone help?


I basically want to implement bits of menu.c (the CAM status and menu 
accessing parts) via SVDRP.

Can someone please help?


If I pull some of the following from menu.c I think this should give me 
what I want:


Get list of availablecams:
void cMenuCam::GenerateTitle(const char *s)
{
 SetTitle(cString::sprintf(CAM %d - %s, camSlot-SlotNumber(), (s  *s) 
? s : camSlot-GetCamName()));

}

Get the CAM status (being Ready, Present, -, or Alphacrypt etc:
bool cMenuSetupCAMItem::Changed(void)
{
 char buffer[32];
 const char *CamName = camSlot-GetCamName();
 if (!CamName) {
switch (camSlot-ModuleStatus()) {
  case msReset:   CamName = tr(CAM reset); break;
  case msPresent: CamName = tr(CAM present); break;
  case msReady:   CamName = tr(CAM ready); break;
  default:CamName = -; break;
  }
}
 snprintf(buffer, sizeof(buffer),  %d %s, camSlot-SlotNumber(), 
CamName);

 if (strcmp(buffer, Text()) != 0) {
SetText(buffer);
return true;
}
 return false;
}



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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time

2010-08-17 Thread JJussi
 You can easily test.. Just rename .xine to something (mv .xine 
.xine-org)..
As I wrote, when directory was totally empty, there was no problem with 
pause. When directory had file (even 0 byte), I had pause problems..


JJussi


On 17.08.2010 22:00, Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
I use vdr-xine plugin instead and .xine only has 1 file, 
catalog.cache. It is a text readable file created by xine.


On 8/17/2010 9:51 AM, JJussi wrote:

Hi!
I found fix to this problem.. After removing .xine directory (from
home of 'vdr'; user what runs vdr-sxfe) pausing works as it should be..
When vdr-sxfe starts, it created again that .xine directory.. But it
(directory) stays empty.
After creating config_xineliboutput to that directory (file is empty;
touch config_xineliboutput) problem returns, but not every time when you
try to pause playback...

Strange!

On 11.8.2010 14.54, Scott Waye wrote:

Yes, I have same symptoms, no vdpau here. I put it down to the client
clearing through its buffer, but that's just a guess.

Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: JJussi v...@jjussi.com
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 12:47
Subject: [vdr] xineliboutput - pausing playback takes time
To: VDR list vdr@linuxtv.org

Hi!
I have
vdr (1.7.14/1.7.14) - The Video Disk Recorder
skinsoppalusikka (1.7.1) - Soppalusikka skin
xineliboutput (1.0.90-cvs) - X11/xine-lib output plugin

problem is when I'm watching recording and press 'pause' -key, playback
is paused for about 1/10:th of second, then it countinues about 2-3
seconds before pausing totally.
This happens most of time when I press pause.. Some times (rarely) it
really pauses right away.

I have tested different (data) transfer methods (pipe, tcp, udp..) and
parameters when starting vdr-sxfe.. No luck!

Have anybody else have same kind of problems? These came when I changed
from version 1.6.x to current 1.7.x..

OH, one thing I have not yet tested.. What happen if I take vdpau off..
Vdpau was reason why I changend to 1.7.x versions.

--

JJussi








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