Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread Marx
I like the idea of external channels database. There is well known kingofsat site which is always up-to-date and inspite of scanning it could be easier to simply import channels definition from it. It for example could allow to import only channels from selected provider. I imagine it could be

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread Marx
What do you think about moving collision detection module into plugin? That way it could be easily swapped. I'm sure many people have their preferences different in how such module should work Marx ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Marx acc.for.n...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of external channels database. There is well known kingofsat site which is always up-to-date and inspite of scanning  it could be easier to simply import channels definition from it. It for example could allow

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 18.06.2012 08:37, Marx wrote: What do you think about moving collision detection module into plugin? That way it could be easily swapped. I'm sure many people have their preferences different in how such module should work There is no collision detection in core VDR yet, so there's

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread mtron
On 06/17/2012 02:16 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Concerning whether to use the longer or the shorter version of the name+source, I would choose the shorter version to not increase chances of the new name not fitting in the OSD. Thus: ZDF (S) ZDF (T) ZDF (C) After sleeping

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 18.06.2012 11:27, mtron wrote: On 06/17/2012 02:16 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Concerning whether to use the longer or the shorter version of the name+source, I would choose the shorter version to not increase chances of the new name not fitting in the OSD. Thus: ZDF (S) ZDF

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-18 Thread Ludi
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:55:10 +0200 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On 17.06.2012 16:50, Ludi wrote: Could you please tell us whether the patch is compatible to vdr 1.7.27? It is the version that is currently in use in the development version of yavdr. It should apply

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Henning Pingel
Hi, As some of you might already know, I'm working on a way to semi-automatically assign unique channel IDs to channels of different DVB providers. As I currently don't have time to explain it in detail today, I will just post some links and join this discussion later on when I have more

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Henning Pingel henn...@henningpingel.de wrote: Hi, As some of you might already know, I'm working on a way to semi-automatically assign unique channel IDs to channels of different DVB providers. As I currently don't have time to explain it in detail today, I

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Ludi
Hi Henning, First of all, thanks again for creating and continuing to offer such a service as the channelpedia. Could you please tell us whether the channelpedia already provides an interface that an application can use to retrieve the uniqueID if a is passed to it? I can easily imagine

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Ludi
I intended to say: if a NID-TID-SID is passed to it On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:33:08 +0200 Ludi ludi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Henning, First of all, thanks again for creating and continuing to offer such a service as the channelpedia. Could you please tell us whether the channelpedia

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Tony Houghton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:26:22 -0700 VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: Why not just patch VDR so it cycles through channels that use the same channel number. No bothering with sql databases dependency, no altering the real channel numbers, no real pain that I can think of. For example, say

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 00:13, Marx wrote: I use VDR mainly via www frontends, but I agree that there is need to tell VDR what to do with channels from different tuners. For example detection of recordings collision doesn't take into account that channels are from two different sources (two different

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 09:26, VDR User wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Henning Pingel henn...@henningpingel.de wrote: Hi, As some of you might already know, I'm working on a way to semi-automatically assign unique channel IDs to channels of different DVB providers. As I currently don't have

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Luca Olivetti
Al 17/06/12 12:50, En/na Klaus Schmidinger ha escrit: Well, first of all: there will be no SQL dependency in the core VDR ;-) That's a pity, because channels.conf would be a perfect candidate for being an sqlite table. (Note that I said sqlite, not sql, but since sqlite uses sql it would allow

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Ludi
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:44:06 +0300 Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote: I think having VDR (optionally) show something like (T)/(S) next to the names is the best idea, but I also like the idea that it somehow understands that they can be considered as identical. That was the core of my idea:

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 16.06.2012 16:53, Ludi wrote: Hi Klaus, First of all, thanks for your reply and for taking the problem into account. On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:32:11 +0200 Klaus Schmidingerklaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On 15.06.2012 17:17, Ludi wrote: Hello, Some time ago, I started a discussion in

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 14:16, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 16.06.2012 16:53, Ludi wrote: Hi Klaus, First of all, thanks for your reply and for taking the problem into account. On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:32:11 +0200 Klaus Schmidingerklaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On 15.06.2012 17:17, Ludi wrote: Hello,

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Udo Richter
Why not just patch VDR so it cycles through channels that use the same channel number. No bothering with sql databases dependency, no altering the real channel numbers, no real pain that I can think of. For example, say you have 3 different sources using the same channel number: channel

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 14:16:53 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: - Make a setup option to Show channel names with source (default is no). - Modify cChannel::Name() and cChannel::ShortName() to optionally append the source character (A, C, S, T, I, ...) to the channel name in the (short)

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 14:59, Udo Richter wrote: Why not just patch VDR so it cycles through channels that use the same channel number. No bothering with sql databases dependency, no altering the real channel numbers, no real pain that I can think of. For example, say you have 3 different sources using

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 15:19, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 14:16:53 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: - Make a setup option to Show channel names with source (default is no). - Modify cChannel::Name() and cChannel::ShortName() to optionally append the source character (A, C, S, T,

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Martin
: RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C (Klaus Schmidinger) 2. Re: RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C (Klaus Schmidinger) 3. Re: RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Mikko Tuumanen
Once version 2.0 is finished, I'm planning on dealing with the same channel from multiple sources problem. There is a related problem with the PCTV nanostick T2-usb receiver. The nanostick T2 can receive C/T/T2 though the same antenna connector. Change between C and T is done the normal way

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Ludi
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:16:53 +0200 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: After sleeping over this for a night I tend to follow your idea of using modifed names directly, thus having them appear everywhere. That's great news. I won't change these names in channels.conf, though

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 17.06.2012 16:50, Ludi wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:16:53 +0200 Klaus Schmidingerklaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: ... The attached patch implements this (i18n stuff left out for brevity). Please give it a try. Could you please tell us whether the patch is compatible to vdr 1.7.27? It is

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-17 Thread Henning Pingel
Am 17.06.2012 09:26, schrieb VDR User: No bothering with sql databases dependency Sorry, I didn't say that clearly enough: The Channelpedia uses a sqlite database - but this doesn't mean at all that VDR core would need to use a sqlite database too. Both are totally independent from each

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-16 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 15.06.2012 17:17, Ludi wrote: Hello, Some time ago, I started a discussion in german on the VDR forum about making the VDR more friendly for users that are simultaneously using different sources to receive channels:

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-16 Thread Ludi
Hi Klaus, First of all, thanks for your reply and for taking the problem into account. On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:32:11 +0200 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On 15.06.2012 17:17, Ludi wrote: Hello, Some time ago, I started a discussion in german on the VDR forum about

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-16 Thread Ludi
Hi again, On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:53:58 +0200 Ludi ludi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Klaus, First of all, thanks for your reply and for taking the problem into account. On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:32:11 +0200 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On 15.06.2012 17:17, Ludi

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-16 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 16.06.2012 18:21, Ludi wrote: Hi again, On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:53:58 +0200 Ludiludi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Klaus, First of all, thanks for your reply and for taking the problem into account. On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:32:11 +0200 Klaus Schmidingerklaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: On

Re: [vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-16 Thread Marx
I use VDR mainly via www frontends, but I agree that there is need to tell VDR what to do with channels from different tuners. For example detection of recordings collision doesn't take into account that channels are from two different sources (two different tuners). It also doesn't understand

[vdr] RFE: Make VDR more friendly when using combinations of DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-C

2012-06-15 Thread Ludi
Hello, Some time ago, I started a discussion in german on the VDR forum about making the VDR more friendly for users that are simultaneously using different sources to receive channels: