Re: [videoblogging] full-screen

2007-01-31 Thread groups-yahoo-com
0WNZ

Glad to here it. :)

On 1/29/07, Nox Dineen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Blip just pwns.

 I've been researching all sorts of video hosting options for work, and
 there's nothing out there that even comes close.


 On 1/29/07, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
hey, i noticed blip now has a full-screen option for Quicktime
  movies that pops up BIG. Nice!
 
  Peter
 
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[videoblogging] Re: copyright

2007-01-31 Thread David
Huge fan of music.podshow.com.  But it could be clearer.  They don't 
tell you what license the material is published under.  I sent them 
an email one time asking for clarification.  I asked, can I use this 
in a video that will have advertising associated with it?  They said 
something tantamount to uh ... yeah ... go ahead.  Now I've kept 
that on file somewhere and I will use music from podshow and give 
proper attribution and all that, but a clearer and more precise 
statement on their website would be welcome.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 For music I have used:
 http://music.podshow.com/
 and I have tried to create music too.
 
 PodSafe has it very clear what to do when using music from their 
site.
 
 -Lan
 www.LanBui.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 30, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   With all this discussion of CC licence, I was
   wondering, what do videoblogging members do when
   adding music to films. Do you create your own? How do
   you source your music? How do you refer music? Do you
   abide by the law?
 
 i have had to break a bad habit of using commercial music in my 
videos.
 its tough because ive always found it hard to not use the music i 
hear.
 
 Ryanne (ryanedit.com) has been making her own music in Soundtrack 
in  
 FCP studio.
 its pretty amazing what she can make using their loops.
 
   Personally, I use ccMixter material only, I can not
   make my own music at the moment. I have used really
   small segments of popular mix, and have referenced
   them at the end of a film. Not sure if this is
   breaking the law.
 
 CCmixter a good place. wish there was more stuff to choose from.
 
 Jay
 
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Re: [videoblogging] history

2007-01-31 Thread groups-yahoo-com
It is truely unbelieveable how fast it's moved.

On the other hand, I was just watching bill gates on charlie rose
about how he dropped out of school because they thought they had to
leap on the computing thing.

This is not a boast, I think I can modestly say the videoblogging
group is definitely the homebrew computer club of this little
revolution in media.

Which makes me think of mocking bill gates

Who in their write mind can spend their time shooting and editing
videos simply to give them away for free!  Is it right that you spend
so much time editing and people should just pass your videos around on
the web!? How can we attract the best media makers if all people's
efforts going in to making media are just passed around without them
receiving any payment!

Hopefully more than a few of you geeks have heard of bill gates now
infamous letter to the homebrew computer club regarding the very
uncool free sharing of software.

I remember when... all the really good programs came in byte magazine
and I would spend days typing them in so I could play a crude version
of frooger on my monitor with 8 shades of amber and back them up on
digital tape. Oh how I miss Eamon, my apple IIc, IIe and Atari 800
and autopilot. Best programing language ever. :)

LOL

Peace,

-Mike

On 1/29/07, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I definitely agree with Jay. It's sometimes hard to believe it's
 already 2007 and so much has happened in just the past couple of
 years. It's great to record our memories while they are still
 relatively fresh.

 Regarding videoblogging history posts, I wanted to link to Peter's
 earlier and more comprehensive videoblogging history post from
 December 2005. This would be great to add to the wiki and to start
 actively linking to the various people/event Peter researched then:

 http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2005/12/04/2944/videoblogging-history

 I feel lucky to be able to have been a small part of this recent
 videoblogging history. I can't imagine where everything will be in
 5-10 years (or even 12 months from now). Amazing how long ago 2004
 seems...

 Best,
 Josh

 On 1/29/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mike pointed that out to me last night
so i also posted some related memories.
http://spreadthemedia.org/node/2707
 
 
  add it to the wiki or all will be forgotten!
 
 http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/The%20History%20of%20the%20Videoblogging%20Group
 
  jay
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't believe that contests necessarily have to be zero-sum.  If
 there's adequate promotional opportunity for all participants (or at
 least those participants who have something of a quality entry) they can
 avoid being truly zero sum games.

You may be right.

In fact this reminds me of Current TV. As Rushkoff said they missed a
real opportunity to do something revolutionary.  THey sold the hype of
a grassroots network... and they could have given people a platform to
have their voices heard by encouraging them to create their own
channels... but they didn't. In the end they just said email us your
videos... which IS a zero sum game because 99% of the content would
never ever, ever be seen.

Ultimately what rushkff was talking about would have been a TV network
that rested on top of a giant network of home made media pretty much
like youtube.  Current TV would have had the licenscing rights to all
videos hosted on their site... and kids would have had much more
incentive to post their videos because even if current tv only showed
a tiny percentage of them on TV the community could have enjoyed each
others media.

Ironicly youtube is thinking of doing a TV station... so YES you could
definitely say Current TV missed a major opportunity. A huge loss of
vision.

So... this pulver media thing... it is by no means evil... and it's
not zero sum... network 2 is encouraging you to use your voice... and
I don't think it's to much to ask have them tagged something so they
can be tracked... but I just have one suggestion.

Network2 should STOP emailing people!  It's the prefered method of
spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that immediately
sets people off maybe not as much with this promotion... but
making a first introduction and request... of course that puts people
off... it's the same way all fishing scams work.

So network2 has to establish more trust...

and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and he's
making big heavy handed moves...

this is a space defined by grass roots, the only other giveaway was
Dabble gave away some shuffles...  it's based on mutual respect not
advertising and promotional gimickry. So... more participation... less
heavy handed moves, less old school obvious marketing moves... and
more respect and simple honest appeal would help soften the mood.

Personally, I can't wait to see what's next around the corner for network2.

Peace

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com

  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [chrisbrogan.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:36 AM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver
 
  Interesting points, Jan, and I appreciate your opinion.
  Contests do have a way of picking a winner, which makes them
  a zero sum game, as Covey calls it.
 
  What do I value? Participation. I love community when it is positive.
  (It's a personal flaw of mine that I don't do negative very
  well. Yes, I know discourse is healthy. I am trying to learn
  how to better manage
  it.)
 
  To me, not as someone from Network2, but just me,
  participation is what this means. Is it marketing for
  Network2? Hell yes. But consider these two scenarios:
 
  1.) Old way: pay people to pretend to be videobloggers.
 
  2.) New way: ask videobloggers and producers to make it themselves.
 
  Recently, Robert Scoble took crap for making a video about
  Intel. My very personal opinion is that I'd rather watch
  Robert's interview than yet another ad showing a sterile room
  with flashing neon graphics.
  Robert asked questions, showed us things, got a voice. Participation.
 
  Yes, there's marketing. Yes, there's a competition. But in
  another way, it's a chance for a couple hundred people to
  show themselves, should they choose to do so.
 
  Another cool thing about the Internet over traditional broadcasting:
  we want to show them all.
 
  Oh! Important: Steve Elbows mentioned something about
  negative or parody ads. I think those are fine, too. Remember
  the GM thing? Well, we're not selling a product. We're
  selling an idea. You want to sh!t on the idea of watching
  Internet TV? Cool. Have a blast! You want to sh!t on
  Network2, that it's not [good/right/useful/pretty], that's
  cool too. That's the best part of this two-way communication medium.
  You can raise your voice.
 
  Will we FEATURE it? Maybe not. But we'll watch it for sure.
  And you control the broadcast of it, so you can host it
  wherever. So, if you want to post negative or parody, that's
  okay, too.
 
  I value participation. That's what was behind PodCamp. That's
  what's behind the projects I spend my time on. That's where I
  go when I'm not with my family (meetups and the like).
 
  Hope that helps answer your question.
 
  --Chris Brogan...
  Community Developer
  Network2.tv
 
  --- In 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you want to make it even easier for people to go to your site and
 comment when they watch your film in iTunes, you can add a clickable
 link at the end of your Quicktime video, which people in iTunes can
 click on to take them directly to your site.  Hardly anyone does this
 that I've seen - David Meade does it - see http://www.davidmeade.com/
 archives/344 for an example.  I plan to do it, too, as part of my
 next project.

I know what you mean, it's rather complex and proprietary
technology... then again any mov is proprietary anyway.

 You need a copy of something like Livestage or Adobe GoLive to create
 a sprite within a QT movie.  But you can easily create a free
 standard ident page with a clickable link to your homepage by
 downloading Adobe's 30 day trial of GoLive and following their
 tutorial, then just paste that ident .mov file at the top or tail of
 your QT posts.

One should not have to go to this much trouble.

 I get quite a few iTunes views on the rare occasions I post anything
 - it's just something that the average person can understand, and has
 already on their PC.  I sync it with my iPod and watch most of the
 vlogs I watch on the tube.

Cool, I always like to here how people watch their media.

 And I also find it an easy way of going to the sites of those people
 I've subscribed to - just by clicking on the arrow next to the name
 in the podcast section.

Yeap... it goes to your homepage.

I still want my links going right to the original post. Absolutely
every other aggregator has it, and it's still like number one on
blip.tv and my personal best practices from the good old days.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog
 Rupert

 http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio


 On 30 Jan 2007, at 12:06, Steve Watkins wrote:

 I admit to using it to watch video. Its not the best experience but I
 am not totally satisfied with the other video aggregating apps either,
 and as I often have itunes open to listen to music, it seemed
 convenient.

 I can certainly appreciate the anger about their non-inclusion of the
 accompanying post etc etc, but personally I find that easy to work
 round, if I am at all interested in the video I jsut watched, I track
 down the original site. Hrrdly an adequate workaround, but it does
 work for me.

 I wouldnt be at all surprised if iTunes is used by a lot of people fr
 lsitening to podcasts and watching vlogs, because so many people have
 it for other reasons, and because although I care deeply about the
 stuff thats absent, plenty of people may not. Especially if they are
 using it to get content onto the ipod where they arent going to have
 access to text  comments  the ability to feedback anyway.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Do people even user itunes!?
  
   I sometimes wonder. Because I find it the worst piece of shit
   experience ever for watching videos. I don't know about anyone
 else...
   but I find reading the accompanying post for the video... and going
   and leaving a comment or visiting the original vlog on occassion a
   compelling and essential part of the experience but iTunes POS
   interface doesn't have ANY of this important meta info.
  
   -Mike
  






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Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, Mike, I hadn't read what you'd written - just Steve's reply.
 I should have been clearer.  There *are* links back to your website
 in the fucking interface :-), to allow you to read and comment.

btw... sorry for using the f*ck word... was late :P

I see what you're talking about.

 If you click on the top line of each subscribed podcast in the
 podcast section, a little arrow appears to the right of the name.
 That links back to the site.

Yeap.

 You can click the i at the very right of each podcast episode to
 preview the post's accompanying text.  Then, if you want to read more
 and comment, click the arrow to go to the site.  It's not quite as
 good as a permalink or watching it on the site, but it's not as bad
 as you made out.

Yeap.

Now I want an API for itunes so it can support digg links!

I'm only somewhat joking.

Clearly every other webservice and aggregator has all sorts of
mechanisms for interoperability... itunes is VERY closed. Just want
people to relize that.  I mean if we can't get permalinks back to your
site then how do you expect people to really share and participate in
the dialogue around your media?

Peace,

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com

 If you've got it open anyway for music, like I always do, it's an
 easy way to get distracted and procrastinate, which is great.


 On 30 Jan 2007, at 10:09, Mike Meiser wrote:
 I'm talking about the goddam business end of iTunes. The fucking
 interface where you play
 videos and podcasts. The place where you actually LISTEN and WATCH
 your videos. NOT THE FUCKING DIRECTORY, where your listeners if they
 are real listeners go once and then never ever ever again... I'm
 talking about the place in itunes where it shows the feeds you have
 subscribed to and the items it's downloaded to your computer.

 In that pane... which is where your subscribers will spend 99.% of
 their time watching your videos... there is not a SINGLE link back to
 your website. NONE. FICKING NONE.

 Do people even user itunes!?

 I sometimes wonder. Because I find it the worst piece of shit
 experience ever for watching videos. I don't know about anyone else...
 but I find reading the accompanying post for the video... and going
 and leaving a comment or visiting the original vlog on occassion a
 compelling and essential part of the experience but iTunes POS
 interface doesn't have ANY of this important meta info.

 -Mike





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[videoblogging] Hello

2007-01-31 Thread Michael Szpakowski
Hi
just joined the group.
Actually only found out about it since Doron was kind
enough to post a link here to one of my movies  I got
some feedback from some of you - hello again! - I
guess I lead a sheltered life.
My vlog is at:

http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi

The discussion here looks detailed  interesting  I'm
looking forward to reading what folk have to say 
maybe participating a little.

Actually, just as a little public service, I don't
know whether people have seen it here already, sorry
if yes, there's a blog/vlog submission section in this
event, looks quite interesting:

http://www.artechmedia.net/artechmedia-congreso/artists_call.htm

Also Agricola De Cologne is doing a blog/vlog show -
can't remember the submission address, a little
googling should uncover it..

best wishes
michael





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/30/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Josh, I think you and some others here are able to articulate specific
 arguments against contests in ways folks can understand. I'm not up to the
 task.

Ditto Josh!

 Competing against one another doesn't cut it any more - not in a community
 like this. Either everyone who wants to win will win, or I want no part of
 it - as with the Vloggies and anything else that pits us against one
 another.

 Competition extrapolated gets us to violence and violence is not cool.
 Competition is a dangerous mindset promoted constantly in the MSM and I'm
 fighting back against shows that glamorize, You're fired! and
 ruthlessness.

Jan,

You're fired!  I'm firing you from the vlogosphere. :)

Sorry, but there isn't enough room for everyone here at vloglandia.

We're going to have to sell some of you kids to science... or ummm, let you go.

We're going to be moving a lot of the general vlogging to Malaysia and China.

:)

But seriously, I've always liked that your so focused on collaboration
and not competition.


-Mike

 Please let's write or vlog our best arguments for new ways of celebrating
 and rewarding excellence, dedication, and passion. Please? Pretty please?

 Thanks, folks.
 Jan

 On 1/30/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I wouldn't have a problem making a video talking about how I watch
  internet
  TV I do it in a number of ways, and it has made a big impact on my life.
  (Heck, I videoblogged my proposal! if that doesn't show you i like
  videoblogging, I don't know what does.) my issues lie here:
 
  - making videos for contests does feel like a mad scramble for cash, not a
  respectable way of paying the bills.
 
  - I would much rather have someone come up to me after watching my videos
  from the past 2 years and said, hey you make great stuff, we want to pay
  you money to make more great stuff instead of saying free money come
  make
  videos and you might get it!
 
  - I can talk about internet TV/ watching videoblogs no problem, but
  integrating Network2 into that would be difficult. If I talked about
  watching internet TV it wouldn't involve Network2, I just don't use it.
 
  - I hate the term Internet TV I just started to be ok with the term
  Show... its gonna be light years before I call something TV that isn't on
  a
  TV
 
 
  that is where I stand. I make videos here and there, I am not against
  making
  money, but contests are a whole other bag of worms...
 
 
 
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  www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general

2007-01-31 Thread Rupert
Yeah - you're totally right, of course.

On 31 Jan 2007, at 09:09, Mike Meiser wrote:

Clearly every other webservice and aggregator has all sorts of
mechanisms for interoperability... itunes is VERY closed. Just want
people to relize that. I mean if we can't get permalinks back to your
site then how do you expect people to really share and participate in
the dialogue around your media?

Peace,

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com





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[videoblogging] Re: Is Creative Commons just bullshit?

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Watkins
Cheers for responding :)

What I mean is that services like youtube arent just cc-incompatible
because they wont show license info, but because a fundamental right
granted by creative commons is that people are allowed to download,
redistribute, rehost, etc, the content, just so long as the other
terms are adhered to.

I brought this up once ofr twice before, because when I reviewed
creative commons site it reminded me that this is one of the main
points of creative commons in the first place. They are against stuff
like DRM and preventing people downloading, because this takes away
rights that the license is giving to people.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Please Im begging someone to respond to my point about creative
   commons material needing to be available for download 
redistribution
   in order to stay true to the cc license.
 
 steve...can you be more clear with what you mean?
 you want a CC search engine for CC media?
 
 Jay
 
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[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and aggregators in general

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Watkins
I know what you mean, and its logical on one level. But on the
otherhand Im sure there is rather a lot of material that is
copyrighted, being distributed via RSS and other methods.

For example if I download a podcast from the BBC, its still
copyrighted by the BBC. They have chosen how the distribution
mechanism works, and that I am allowed to download it etc. But its
still copyrighted by them, if I tried to actually redistribute the
file by hosting it elsewhere, by playing it on another radio station
or selling it on CD, they could throw the book at me.

I think it boils down to longstanding arguments and confusions on the
internet about what 'distribution' and 'copying' really mean. The web
blurred the issue slightly, are we really saying that if someone
embeds a blip video on their site, they are rehosting and
redistributing it, when in fact the actual media is still on the
original server?

The way I see it, embedding, hotlinking etc content, is more akin to
'public performance' of a work, than redistributing it. But what I
think isnt at all the same as whats law, I dunno, it gets a bit messy.
What I am reasonably sure of is that choosing to distribute something
in a relatively open way, is not incompatible with attaching copyright
to your work. The BBC let me videotape stuff off the telly and
technically keep it for a fixed amount of time, and this doesnt harm
their ability to claim damages from people who abuse their copyright
on the same material, doesnt give me the right to sell that video etc. 

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's unproven in court so far as I
know... but yes...
 maybe putting your media in RSS has some implications as for your copy
 rights.
 
 BTW, there's really no conflict at all with RSS and the creative
 commons licensces, which is exactly the point.  The creative commons
 licensces were fundamentally designed to say heh, copyright law is
 defective in this new metaverse, it conflicts with the new reality
 that everything must be copied.
 
 I'd personally love to see an RSS feed with the copyright labeled as
 all rights reserved this would seem an absolute contradiction of
 syndication which fundamentally requires copying and redistribution.
 



[videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Dean Collins

 
 Network2 should STOP emailing people!  It's the prefered method of
 spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that immediately
 sets people off maybe not as much with this promotion... but
 making a first introduction and request... of course that puts people
 off... it's the same way all fishing scams work.
 
 So network2 has to establish more trust...
 
 and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and he's
 making big heavy handed moves...
 


First off I was the person who reposted Jeff's email here. It came into 
my inbox that morning and I thought it would be of interest to people 
in this group seeing I dont currently video blog.

Secondly wow, I've never seen a bunch of crying babies more than I've 
seen in the past 24 hours.

You guys even beat the MythTV open source software group.

As for email being the method of spammers, pull your head out of your 
butt. It's the way people communicate. If you dont like it dont read it 
or better still unsubscribe me.

For someone that has just 'wandered' in off the street lately into this 
group I've seen nothing but moaning and groaning and bitching. 

I thought I'd find tips and techniques, discussions about topics, 
reviews on thought provoking vlogs.

Sorry if this sounds out of line but wheres the content???


Dissapointedly,

Dean
P.S. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and I'm not connected 
with F2/Pulver etc if you dont like what I've got to say unsubscribe 
me, it's not like I'd be missing any content anyway.



[videoblogging] Re: Is Creative Commons just bullshit?

2007-01-31 Thread Beth
Give it time
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cambodia4kidsorg/312407445/in/set-72157594504846526/



[videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Watkins
Well I agree that it seems wrong to criticise a company for sending 
out email - otherwise they are damned if they do and damned if they 
dont, previous complaints were about them not talking to people!

How the email is written, the tone etc, is how Id see it, rather 
than whether sending email is wrong per se.

AS for the negativity of the group etc, welcome to the internet! Im 
certainly very guilty of mostly talking negatively, usually because 
if something is OK, I dont usually feel the need to comment on it. 
Thats no justification, just an explanation.

Since the early days of the group, many have wished for more 
discusion of content, etc. A seperate group was even setup for this, 
but all the offshoot groups have failed to maintain much discusion 
at all.

The reasons are probably varied - sometimes its easier to make 
content than to talk about it (not for me though lol), people let 
the content speak for itself. 

The whole negativity thing is also seen a lot with comments on 
people blogs, videos, etc. It seems that getting annoyed or 
disproving of something can be a greater source of motivation for 
people to share their thoughts, than positive stuff. A shame, not 
100% true, dunno how to change it. 

Even if we did talk about content more, it can get even more 
sensitive. A lot of opeople opinions on content also boils down 
to 'I think this is crap', and as people are understandably a bit 
sensitive about their work, it can cause even more bad vibes.

Can you point me to some forums, messageboards, groups or other 
stuff that is a shining example of a more balanced, less moany 
bitchy balance of things? Because its unfortunately my experience 
that this isnt something unique to this group. Indeed the phenomenon 
of negative text communication on the net is one of the many reasons 
some people were attracted to video in the first place!

Youve done nothing wrong and noboy is going to unsubscribe you. You 
can of course unsubscribe yourself if you cant stand to be here. The 
middle way is to set the yahoo options so that you dont get emails, 
but rather you can read just the stuff you choose by looking at this 
group throught he yahoo web interface, where you can also view 
messages grouped by subject, thus making it very easy to avoid whole 
threads of coversation that dont appeal.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dean Collins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  Network2 should STOP emailing people!  It's the prefered method 
of
  spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that 
immediately
  sets people off maybe not as much with this promotion... but
  making a first introduction and request... of course that puts 
people
  off... it's the same way all fishing scams work.
  
  So network2 has to establish more trust...
  
  and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and 
he's
  making big heavy handed moves...
  
 
 
 First off I was the person who reposted Jeff's email here. It came 
into 
 my inbox that morning and I thought it would be of interest to 
people 
 in this group seeing I dont currently video blog.
 
 Secondly wow, I've never seen a bunch of crying babies more than 
I've 
 seen in the past 24 hours.
 
 You guys even beat the MythTV open source software group.
 
 As for email being the method of spammers, pull your head out of 
your 
 butt. It's the way people communicate. If you dont like it dont 
read it 
 or better still unsubscribe me.
 
 For someone that has just 'wandered' in off the street lately into 
this 
 group I've seen nothing but moaning and groaning and bitching. 
 
 I thought I'd find tips and techniques, discussions about topics, 
 reviews on thought provoking vlogs.
 
 Sorry if this sounds out of line but wheres the content???
 
 
 Dissapointedly,
 
 Dean
 P.S. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and I'm not 
connected 
 with F2/Pulver etc if you dont like what I've got to say 
unsubscribe 
 me, it's not like I'd be missing any content anyway.





[videoblogging] Re: Saturday Videoblogging FlashMeeting Presentations

2007-01-31 Thread Nick Schmidt
Yea just let us know what the URL and etc is for the flash meeting..



Re: [videoblogging] Hello

2007-01-31 Thread sull
Welcome!
Interesting Work.

On 1/31/07, Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi
 just joined the group.
 Actually only found out about it since Doron was kind
 enough to post a link here to one of my movies  I got
 some feedback from some of you - hello again! - I
 guess I lead a sheltered life.
 My vlog is at:

 http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi

 The discussion here looks detailed  interesting  I'm
 looking forward to reading what folk have to say 
 maybe participating a little.

 Actually, just as a little public service, I don't
 know whether people have seen it here already, sorry
 if yes, there's a blog/vlog submission section in this
 event, looks quite interesting:

 http://www.artechmedia.net/artechmedia-congreso/artists_call.htm

 Also Agricola De Cologne is doing a blog/vlog show -
 can't remember the submission address, a little
 googling should uncover it..

 best wishes
 michael

  




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http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re:CHECK OUT DIY ANIMATION WORKSHOP

2007-01-31 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Good stuff. Thanks.

Jan

On 1/30/07, andrew L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI EVERYONE.

 its time to go public with the DIY ANIMATION WORKSHOP VLOG.
 I have been producing a 30 minute mix  mash show on public access and
 online for several months.  as of now, i am launching a new, more
 more frequent project. so check it out and spread the word:
 http://animationworkshop.blogspot.com

 come on, come all...get your d.i.y. animation here. homemade 
 handcrafted... we cut and paste so you don't have to! this is the
 headquarters for the breathingplanet/my survival kit animation lab. we
 post frame-by-frame goodness. this is an experiment in
 everydaytournement. enjoy!

 like the show, you might like my music:
 http://breathingplanet.net/node/52

 ovrout

 --
 andrew lynn
 --
 http://www.breathingplanet.net
 http://www.stillweridethemovie.com
 http://animationworkshop.blogspot.com
 http://www.youthchannel.org
 http://www.nymapexchange.net



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[videoblogging] DC MediaMakers Happy Hour this Thursday

2007-01-31 Thread Andy Carvin
Hi everyone,

For those of you in the DC area interested in video
blogging, our humble gathering of DC MediaMakers is
having another happy hour this Thursday night starting
at 6:30pm. It will take place at the Four Provinces at
3412 Connecticut Ave NW, not far from the Cleveland
Park Metro. For those of you who haven't joined us
yet, we get together every other Thursday, alternating
between informal happy hours and more organized
gatherings at a local library, where we demo video
blogs and talk about techniques. We've started posted
our schedule at Upcoming.org, so you can keep track of
what's going on when. 

http://upcoming.org/group/2631/

Hope you can join us!

thanks,
andy


Andy Carvin
andycarvin at yahoo  com
www.andycarvin.com
www.pbs.org/learningnow



RE: [videoblogging] Re: Is Creative Commons just bullshit?

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack
This exists at http://search.creativecommons.org/ 

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay dedman
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:25 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is Creative Commons just bullshit?
 
  Please Im begging someone to respond to my point about creative  
  commons material needing to be available for download  
 redistribution  
  in order to stay true to the cc license.
 
 steve...can you be more clear with what you mean?
 you want a CC search engine for CC media?
 
 Jay
 
 --
 Here I am
 http://jaydedman.com
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: copyright

2007-01-31 Thread Ron Watson
Ryanne,

What terms are you claiming under mangatune?

I hope you're not using the 'commercial but poor' classification as  
your basis for that usage. The last time I went to look for new music  
at mangatune, there was a clarification on that classification.

I've been cutting my own music as of late.

I really must get better at not allowing music to play in the  
background in our pieces. It is so hard though. We always have music on.

Then of course there is the issue of capturing someone's discdog  
routine on video and posting it. One part history and capturing a  
public event and one part copyright. I'd like to think that the  
interests of people (history and public venue) would outweigh the  
interests of profit (copyright), but we all know what's important in  
our society.

I am going to be checking out ccmixter. Maybe I can run into Lucas  
there and apologize for the verbal beating i gave him before I  
understood where he was going (I really got hosed on that email lag -  
totally out of context 24 hours later...).



ron


On Jan 31, 2007, at 2:30 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

 I've used Magnatune, giving credit as they require. But I get very  
 tired of
 the process of hunting for the right soundtrack.

 -- 
 best regards,
 Deirdré Straughan

 www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
 www.tvblob.com (work)

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay dedman
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:56 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences
 
  I don't think the issue is advertising. If it was there 
 wouldn't be an issue since ads with video is now fairly 
 commoditized technology. I think the bigger issue is credit 
 and respect for the terms of the cc license itself, which can 
 put restrictions on commercial use and require proper attribution.
   In terms of videoronk my concern is that credit is given 
 to blip but not to the content creator.
 
 mike, tech question:
 in Blip's feed...does it show the permalink of the Blip page 
 with my video?
 does it list that I am the creator and my website URL?

Yes, all of that information is in the feed.  It includes the permalink
to the post on blip in the item:link element, and also includes special
metadata that's presently unique to blip for credit.  Here's an example
from a random video I picked on blip:

blip:userthatphoneguy/blip:user
blip:show30 Seconds with Phone Guy/blip:show
blip:showpagehttp://thatphoneguy.blip.tv//blip:showpage
blip:picturehttp://blip.tv/uploadedFiles/user_photo_thatphoneguy746.jp
g/blip:picture

So that tells the aggregator that the video is from the 30 Seconds with
Phone Guy series, which can be found at http://thatphoneguy.blip.tv/.
It even gives the aggregator a picture that can be used to represent the
series, which can be found at
http://blip.tv/uploadedFiles/user_photo_thatphoneguy746.jpg.  We'd love
to use standard elements for these pieces of metadata, but they don't
exist yet -- we're including them in our own namespace right now so that
our formal partners can pick up and use the data for attribution
purposes.


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread sull
well said, mike...  that is the truth of this group.

On 1/31/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'd like to add one very simple thing. This group is whatever its
 members make it. While there are list administrators, they're extremely
 hands-off (as I believe they should be) and it's largely been left to
 the approximately 2,500 people on this list to manage themselves and
 direct the conversation wherever they care to. If you'd like to see
 more discussion of content or technique it is entirely within your power
 to provoke that discussion.

  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Steve Watkins
  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:02 AM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver
 
  Well I agree that it seems wrong to criticise a company for
  sending out email - otherwise they are damned if they do and
  damned if they dont, previous complaints were about them not
  talking to people!
 
  How the email is written, the tone etc, is how Id see it,
  rather than whether sending email is wrong per se.
 
  AS for the negativity of the group etc, welcome to the
  internet! Im certainly very guilty of mostly talking
  negatively, usually because if something is OK, I dont
  usually feel the need to comment on it.
  Thats no justification, just an explanation.
 
  Since the early days of the group, many have wished for more
  discusion of content, etc. A seperate group was even setup
  for this, but all the offshoot groups have failed to maintain
  much discusion at all.
 
  The reasons are probably varied - sometimes its easier to
  make content than to talk about it (not for me though lol),
  people let the content speak for itself.
 
  The whole negativity thing is also seen a lot with comments
  on people blogs, videos, etc. It seems that getting annoyed
  or disproving of something can be a greater source of
  motivation for people to share their thoughts, than positive
  stuff. A shame, not 100% true, dunno how to change it.
 
  Even if we did talk about content more, it can get even more
  sensitive. A lot of opeople opinions on content also boils
  down to 'I think this is crap', and as people are
  understandably a bit sensitive about their work, it can cause
  even more bad vibes.
 
  Can you point me to some forums, messageboards, groups or
  other stuff that is a shining example of a more balanced,
  less moany bitchy balance of things? Because its
  unfortunately my experience that this isnt something unique
  to this group. Indeed the phenomenon of negative text
  communication on the net is one of the many reasons some
  people were attracted to video in the first place!
 
  Youve done nothing wrong and noboy is going to unsubscribe
  you. You can of course unsubscribe yourself if you cant stand
  to be here. The middle way is to set the yahoo options so
  that you dont get emails, but rather you can read just the
  stuff you choose by looking at this group throught he yahoo
  web interface, where you can also view messages grouped by
  subject, thus making it very easy to avoid whole threads of
  coversation that dont appeal.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Dean Collins
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   
Network2 should STOP emailing people! It's the prefered method
  of
spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that
  immediately
sets people off maybe not as much with this promotion... but
making a first introduction and request... of course that puts
  people
off... it's the same way all fishing scams work.
   
So network2 has to establish more trust...
   
and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and
  he's
making big heavy handed moves...
   
  
  
   First off I was the person who reposted Jeff's email here. It came
  into
   my inbox that morning and I thought it would be of interest to
  people
   in this group seeing I dont currently video blog.
  
   Secondly wow, I've never seen a bunch of crying babies more than
  I've
   seen in the past 24 hours.
  
   You guys even beat the MythTV open source software group.
  
   As for email being the method of spammers, pull your head out of
  your
   butt. It's the way people communicate. If you dont like it dont
  read it
   or better still unsubscribe me.
  
   For someone that has just 'wandered' in off the street lately into
  this
   group I've seen nothing but moaning and groaning and bitching.
  
   I thought I'd find tips and techniques, discussions about topics,
   reviews on thought provoking vlogs.
  
   Sorry if this sounds out of line but wheres the content???
  
  
   Dissapointedly,
  
   Dean
   P.S. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and I'm not
  connected
   

[videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Dean Collins
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the approximately 2,500 people on this list to manage themselves and
 direct the conversation wherever they care to.  If you'd like to see
 more discussion of content or technique it is entirely within your 
power
 to provoke that discussion. 
 


Fair challenge, I'll take it up.

As some of you may have read yesterday the reason for me subscribing 
to this group is that I'm on the organising commitee for 
www.BarCampUSA.org which is a 'mega' barcamp being held in Wisconsin 
in August (23rd to 26th) later this year.

It is projected that over 5000+ people from around the world (I have 
friends/colleagues coming from as far as Australia, Singapore, India) 
are going to get together for 4 days straight 24 hours a day.

The reason for reaching out yesterday to this group was to make video 
bloggers aware of this event because we have had an overwhelming 
response from the podcasting community (they already have about 10 
different events scheduled over the course of the 4 days and will be 
organising a podshack etc as a communal point for all things podcast).

Personally I wanted to see a lot more video related activities so I 
reached out yesterday to ask who wanted to take this project on, not 
important who but noteably it was the quiet achievers in the group 
who reached out and put their hand up to take on this project (i'm 
sure they are looking for more volunteers and creative ideas so 
contact me if you think you have what it takes).

You're going to need to think big though. 

There are opportunities here to blow the roof off what people 
expectations of what a barcamp is. The 'entertainment' team are 
working on a schedule of artists that will forever define how off the 
wall barcamps really can be (personally I think they are raising the 
bar to a level that is never going to be cleared again).

I'm personally working on a project to do nothing less than finally 
close the bridge between the raw buzz of barcamp and the VC community.
http://www.barcampusa.org/wiki/index.php?title=SpeedPitchShootout

As you may have noticed there is a whole heap of content on that wiki 
that hasn't gone live and been made public yet.

With 5000+ people you owe it to this opportunity to think outside the 
square and really big. If you wanted to do anything to change the 
world what would it be?

Like I said the challenge is there, it's up to you - if you want to 
make a difference you can. I know that sometime in the future I'm 
going to look back on The Woodstock of our generation and know that 
I made a difference.


Cheers,
Dean
www.BarCampUSA.org 






[videoblogging] Ikea

2007-01-31 Thread Dean Collins

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=54\
824Nid=27059p=416179
http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=5\
4824Nid=27059p=416179

Ikea has turned to a new kind of consumer-generated video network that
designed to motivate consumers to interact with and create videos based
on their brands. Unlike others who are treating user-generated content
as advertising, PR or buzz marketing, the Ikea campaign is based on a
very old marketing model: consumer promotion. The promotion, which is
being hosted and managed by Shycast, any early stage company that is
going public today with the Ikea campaign, is essentially a contest that
offers $5,000 in cash to the user who creates the best online video on
making a bed. Actually, the contest asks consumers to break the rules
of bed-making.



As of early this morning, moments after the campaign went live, Shycast
had three video posts: One from Bill showing a bed making itself; one
from Steph, making my bed; and one from Robert J. Moore, asking
whether, you can see me in his bed.
The hope of Ikea and its agencies is that the campaign will prove to be
more than just a test bed, and that it will catch on like wildfire,
tapping a new undercurrent of competition in the user-generated video
space.



How cool is this concept. If you are in the market for an advertising
agency you should hire these guys now. I love it.

Cheers,
Dean

http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html
http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html\




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[videoblogging] Re: Ikea

2007-01-31 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Yeah. I think this has potential. It will inspire others. One thing
leads to another.

Cool 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dean Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=54\
 824Nid=27059p=416179

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=5\
 4824Nid=27059p=416179
 
 Ikea has turned to a new kind of consumer-generated video network that
 designed to motivate consumers to interact with and create videos based
 on their brands. Unlike others who are treating user-generated content
 as advertising, PR or buzz marketing, the Ikea campaign is based on a
 very old marketing model: consumer promotion. The promotion, which 

 offers $5,000 in cash to the user who creates the best online video 

 The hope of Ikea and its agencies is that the campaign will prove to be
 more than just a test bed, and that it will catch on like wildfire,
 tapping a new undercurrent of competition in the user-generated video
 space.
 
 
 
 How cool is this concept. If you are in the market for an advertising
 agency you should hire these guys now. I love it.
 
 Cheers,
 Dean
 
 http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html

http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html\





[videoblogging] Re: Ikea

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Olsen

Sounds the same as what HR Block is doing with their contest.

(Oh no, more video contests!!)

I always wondered if the IKEA folks saw our video, IKEA Parking Lot:

http://www.mnstories.com/archives/2005/07/ikea_parking_lo.html

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=54\
 824Nid=27059p=416179
 http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=5\
 4824Nid=27059p=416179
 
 Ikea has turned to a new kind of consumer-generated video network that
 designed to motivate consumers to interact with and create videos based
 on their brands. Unlike others who are treating user-generated content
 as advertising, PR or buzz marketing, the Ikea campaign is based on a
 very old marketing model: consumer promotion. The promotion, which is
 being hosted and managed by Shycast, any early stage company that is
 going public today with the Ikea campaign, is essentially a contest that
 offers $5,000 in cash to the user who creates the best online video on
 making a bed. Actually, the contest asks consumers to break the rules
 of bed-making.
 
 
 
 As of early this morning, moments after the campaign went live, Shycast
 had three video posts: One from Bill showing a bed making itself; one
 from Steph, making my bed; and one from Robert J. Moore, asking
 whether, you can see me in his bed.
 The hope of Ikea and its agencies is that the campaign will prove to be
 more than just a test bed, and that it will catch on like wildfire,
 tapping a new undercurrent of competition in the user-generated video
 space.
 
 
 
 How cool is this concept. If you are in the market for an advertising
 agency you should hire these guys now. I love it.
 
 Cheers,
 Dean
 
 http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html
 http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/ikea-gets-into-hot-bed.html\
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Olsen
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So how about it jeff? Withdraw the contest, spend it all on courting
 vloggers to come and participate at the VON conference and sponsor it
 with a vloghaus.
 
 What could be better than that?

I'll tell you what's better than that...

Me winning $25 grand!
 ;-)



[videoblogging] Help Needed - In Search of the Third Dimension

2007-01-31 Thread Roger
Someone posted this video to LiveVideo.com in response to a video I made:
http://tinyurl.com/2n9fal

The video that I made... the one they are responding to... is here:
http://tinyurl.com/328obx

Obviously, they need some serious stereoscopic help.
Since I've never worked with USB cams, I *especially* need help in
that department.

 Please help.
 I also posted my video (a better quality version), along with this
message, to my site, if anyone would like to respond there, and I can
relay the information:
http://www.puppetkites.net/320

 Thanks.

Roger



[videoblogging] Re: Congratulations to Kent and Doug!

2007-01-31 Thread bestdamntechshow
Just getting caught up on the list and wanted to say congrats to the
Ninja dudes.

_drew

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From Businessweek:
 
 The folks at Ask a Ninja are pretty excited. I spoke with Kent
 Nichols today and he says that he and Douglas Sarine, the other madmen
 behind the year-old video blog, just signed a deal with blog network
 Federated Media that guarantees them a contract for sales in the low
 seven figures this year.
 
 Full article:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2gp2q9
 
 
 Amazing!  You guys deserve it!





Re: [videoblogging] Help Needed - In Search of the Third Dimension

2007-01-31 Thread sull
thats one funny response :)

speaking of LiveVideo.com... here is a video review from 'I Do It Digital'
http://www.idoitdigital.com/2007/01/30/i-test-drive-livevideo/


On 1/31/07, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Someone posted this video to LiveVideo.com in response to a video I
 made:
 http://tinyurl.com/2n9fal

 The video that I made... the one they are responding to... is here:
 http://tinyurl.com/328obx

 Obviously, they need some serious stereoscopic help.
 Since I've never worked with USB cams, I *especially* need help in
 that department.

 Please help.
 I also posted my video (a better quality version), along with this
 message, to my site, if anyone would like to respond there, and I can
 relay the information:
 http://www.puppetkites.net/320

 Thanks.

 Roger

  




-- 
Sull
http://vlogdir.com (a project)
http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
http://interdigitate.com (otherly)


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RE: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Charles Hope
 

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 23:08

 On top of all that, in this case, when you told them about 
 your issue, they told you I can't do nothin' for ya, man, 
 and claimed to be insulated from dealing with you directly 
 because they're aggregating a different site that already 
 aggregated you.
 
 Short of Whack-A-Mole (or not using RSS at all), prevention 
 is currently impossible.
 
 Recourse is where a traditional license might help you 
 out... or not.


Even a traditional license must be protected by playing Whack-A-Mole.

I sent these guys some feedback through their web page, since I couldn't
find an e-mail address for them, letting them know that blip.tv would
appreciate their abiding by the Best Practices that are listed at
http://tinyurl.com/276vjf. We will see what response we get, if any.


[videoblogging] Half my posts are missing from my feedburner feed!

2007-01-31 Thread missbhavens1969
Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.

I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their videos
exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people are
seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site visits...although,
I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up while I
was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in posts
being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change with
migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts are
old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically backwards from
the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to republish
each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear with
it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my feedburner
feed? Huh?

Any ideas out there?

Sad and cranky,
Bekah
--
http://www.missbhavens.com
http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOfMissbhavens
http://www.missbhavens.com
 



[videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Van Dijck
Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
invite here in the coming hour or two:
http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers-joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417

Enjoy!
Peter

-- 
Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
my job: http://petervandijck.net


[videoblogging] Re: Half my posts are missing from my feedburner feed!

2007-01-31 Thread Heath
your feed was OK, last night as far as I know, since I downloaded 
your latest last night and I use the feedburner feed for my 
Zencasti noticed that all your vlogs now say Jan 30th for the 
date.by adding labels I wonder if you are republishing your vlog 
and as you repost your older ones move up becuase it thinks it is 
brand new?  Maybedon't know but just a guess..

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.
 
 I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their videos
 exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people are
 seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site 
visits...although,
 I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up while I
 was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in posts
 being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change with
 migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts are
 old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
 totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically backwards 
from
 the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to republish
 each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
 peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
 me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear with
 it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
 subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my feedburner
 feed? Huh?
 
 Any ideas out there?
 
 Sad and cranky,
 Bekah
 --
 http://www.missbhavens.com
 
http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOf
Missbhavens
 http://www.missbhavens.com





Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread CarLBanks
Hope I wasn't too late!

On 1/31/07, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
  invite here in the coming hour or two:
 http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers-joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417

  Enjoy!
  Peter

  --
  Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
  my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
  my job: http://petervandijck.net
  


-- 
http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com


[videoblogging] Re: Half my posts are missing from my feedburner feed!

2007-01-31 Thread Bill Cammack
Go to your feed's troubleshootize page and click Resync Now. 
Check the feed in a different tab or window.  Refresh the window three
times.  If the feed still looks wrong, go to the troubleshootize
tab/window and click Resync Now again.  Repeat until your feed looks
the way you know it should look.

This assumes that your original feed (the one that feedburner's
reading from your site, the atom or the rss) looks the way it's
supposed to.  The goal is to keep clicking Resync Now until the two
of them match up.  After that, check your iTunes or Democracy or
whatever your subscribers normally use and make sure it looks proper
there as well.

Bill C.
http://ReelSolid.TV
http://blog.fastcompany.com/experts/bcammack/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
 me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear with
 it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
 subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my feedburner
 feed? Huh?
 
 Any ideas out there?
 
 Sad and cranky,
 Bekah
 --
 http://www.missbhavens.com

http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOfMissbhavens
 http://www.missbhavens.com




Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Nox Dineen
Awesome, thank you. I'm very interested in giving Joost a try.

On 1/31/07, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
 invite here in the coming hour or two:

 http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers-joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417

 Enjoy!
 Peter

 --
 Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
 my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
 my job: http://petervandijck.net
 




-- 
Geek Goddess TV -- www.geekgoddess.tv
Geek Goddess Blog -- blog.geekgoddess.tv


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[videoblogging] Congrats to Hayden! G’night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Street
Via http://newteevee.com

G'night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

Written by Liz Gannes Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 9:32 AM PT
Hayden Black, the creator of mock news show Goodnight Burbank, has
signed a deal to create a pilot for the new HBO Online, he said via
email this morning.

Black said the new show's working title is Abigail's X-Rated Teen
Vlog and he will be writing, starring, producing, and directing it —
oh, and also delivering it by late next week. He is still in talks
with HBO Online regarding picking up his first show, Goodnight Burbank.


http://newteevee.com/2007/01/31/gnight-burbank-scores-hbo-online-pilot/



Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Loiez D.
Not available on a mac ;-(

Loiez


Le 31 janv. 07 à 20:46, Peter Van Dijck a écrit :

 Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
 invite here in the coming hour or two:
 http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers- 
 joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417

 Enjoy!
 Peter

 -- 
 Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
 my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
 my job: http://petervandijck.net

 



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[videoblogging] Re: Half my posts are missing from my feedburner feed!

2007-01-31 Thread missbhavens1969
Hmmm...okay. Well, the date thing can be explained because yesterday
was when I republished a whole mess of posts with those dang labels.

But today my fb feed won't validate (the Blogger atom feed will,
though). I've read about the New Blogger feeds only holding 25
posts...but I would expect them the be the 25 newest ones instead of
the 25 oldest ones, right?

This stuff frustrates the Heck out of me. And the hell, too.

Thanks, Heath,
Bek


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 your feed was OK, last night as far as I know, since I downloaded 
 your latest last night and I use the feedburner feed for my 
 Zencasti noticed that all your vlogs now say Jan 30th for the 
 date.by adding labels I wonder if you are republishing your vlog 
 and as you repost your older ones move up becuase it thinks it is 
 brand new?  Maybedon't know but just a guess..
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
 missbhavens1969@ wrote:
 
  Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.
  
  I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their videos
  exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people are
  seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site 
 visits...although,
  I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up while I
  was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in posts
  being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change with
  migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts are
  old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
  totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically backwards 
 from
  the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to republish
  each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
  peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
  me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear with
  it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
  subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my feedburner
  feed? Huh?
  
  Any ideas out there?
  
  Sad and cranky,
  Bekah
  --
  http://www.missbhavens.com
  
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOf
 Missbhavens
  http://www.missbhavens.com
 





Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread CarLBanks
Yet, I heard they are working on it!

On 1/31/07, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Not available on a mac ;-(

  Loiez

  Le 31 janv. 07 à 20:46, Peter Van Dijck a écrit :

   Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
   invite here in the coming hour or two:
   http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers-
   joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417
  
   Enjoy!
   Peter
  
   --
   Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
   my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
   my job: http://petervandijck.net
  
  

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  


-- 
http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com


[videoblogging] Re: Half my posts are missing from my feedburner feed!

2007-01-31 Thread Heath
You would think they would be the newest.but what I know about 
the tech side of it is woeful at bestand I did recheck your 
feedburner feed and it is different than it looked last night...which 
I know you knowhmm, someone just posted a suggestion maybe that 
would help..you could always email blogger support..  ;)  hey it 
couldn't hurt...  

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmmm...okay. Well, the date thing can be explained because yesterday
 was when I republished a whole mess of posts with those dang labels.
 
 But today my fb feed won't validate (the Blogger atom feed will,
 though). I've read about the New Blogger feeds only holding 25
 posts...but I would expect them the be the 25 newest ones instead of
 the 25 oldest ones, right?
 
 This stuff frustrates the Heck out of me. And the hell, too.
 
 Thanks, Heath,
 Bek
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
 
  your feed was OK, last night as far as I know, since I downloaded 
  your latest last night and I use the feedburner feed for my 
  Zencasti noticed that all your vlogs now say Jan 30th for the 
  date.by adding labels I wonder if you are republishing your 
vlog 
  and as you repost your older ones move up becuase it thinks it 
is 
  brand new?  Maybedon't know but just a guess..
  
  Heath
  http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
  missbhavens1969@ wrote:
  
   Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.
   
   I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their 
videos
   exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people 
are
   seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site 
  visits...although,
   I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up 
while I
   was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in 
posts
   being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change 
with
   migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts 
are
   old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
   totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically 
backwards 
  from
   the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to 
republish
   each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
   peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
   me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear 
with
   it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
   subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my 
feedburner
   feed? Huh?
   
   Any ideas out there?
   
   Sad and cranky,
   Bekah
   --
   http://www.missbhavens.com
   
  
http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOf
  Missbhavens
   http://www.missbhavens.com
  
 





Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I repeat: it's just not that exciting for videobloggers. Yeah, I've looked
at it, it's pretty, so what? From all I've been able to find out, they have
NO intention of allowing just anybody to upload - to protect against
piracy - they only want to distribute professional content. So with Joost
I can watch TV on my PC. Even if I wanted to do that, there are quite a few
ways I could do it already. If this project was being carried out by anyone
but Zennstrom et al, it would not be anywhere near the news it has been. As
always, to they who already have (PR clout), more shall be given...

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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[videoblogging] Re: Congrats to Hayden! G’night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

2007-01-31 Thread Bill Cammack
Sweet!  Congrats! :D

--
Bill C.
http://ReelSolid.TV

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Via http://newteevee.com
 
 G'night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot
 
 Written by Liz Gannes Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 9:32 AM PT
 Hayden Black, the creator of mock news show Goodnight Burbank, has
 signed a deal to create a pilot for the new HBO Online, he said via
 email this morning.
 
 Black said the new show's working title is Abigail's X-Rated Teen
 Vlog and he will be writing, starring, producing, and directing it —
 oh, and also delivering it by late next week. He is still in talks
 with HBO Online regarding picking up his first show, Goodnight Burbank.
 
 
 http://newteevee.com/2007/01/31/gnight-burbank-scores-hbo-online-pilot/





[videoblogging] Feedburner/New Blogger Woes! Woe is Me!

2007-01-31 Thread missbhavens1969
And the hits just keep on coming! I am much vexed.

So after a chat with Bill C. that solidified my desire to move to
Wordpress I set about deleting all those damn Blogger labels...guess what!

Without the labels, the posts reappear in the Feedburner feed!
HOWEVER, they are completely out of order! There is now the de-labeled
posts (chronologically incorrect), followed by a whole lot of no posts
(because they still have the labels on them) followed by all the older
never-labeled posts. This would be fine except that now the whole FB
feed is completely out of order! Time as defined by humans is not a
factor with this feed, now. Dates have become totally irrelevant to
it. I am baffled and annoyed.

I guess I should just be grateful that I can put the posts back into
the feed at all...

No, not so much

Anyone one else out there using their old classic Blogger template
on new Blogger having feed issues? Is it really just me?

Bekah







--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.
 
 I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their videos
 exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people are
 seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site visits...although,
 I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up while I
 was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in posts
 being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change with
 migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts are
 old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
 totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically backwards from
 the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to republish
 each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
 peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
 me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear with
 it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
 subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my feedburner
 feed? Huh?
 
 Any ideas out there?
 
 Sad and cranky,
 Bekah
 --
 http://www.missbhavens.com

http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOfMissbhavens
 http://www.missbhavens.com





[videoblogging] Thx and Canon PowerShot Elph series as video cam

2007-01-31 Thread Caleb
Love the list, even if i can't always keep up. And thanks to everyone
for the help with FCP settings. 

I'm researching tiny video cameras because my Canon SD400 is old. But
it's so good at video with a low profile and the 640/15fps is
surprisingly good. Everything here is from the 400, http://lrntv.blip.tv/
except the Tales of Grim which was minidv as original. 

But to get the point. The Xacti's looks good, and have a mic input,
but I get the feeling it is too early to go there and my Canon will
suffice for a bit more. I just want an Elph with a mic jack basically! 



Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 31.01.2007 kl. 05:11 skrev Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Or of course you could just work with people tring to standardise all
 meta data for video which would include a license portion.

Please don't. There are already standards for attaching licensing  
information to web content (in both HTML and RSS). Don't create a video  
specific one. In fact don't create one at all, use the one that already  
exists.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


RE: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack
Andreas, what should we be doing in our RSS?

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup
Pedersen
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:45 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences

Den 31.01.2007 kl. 05:11 skrev Dean Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Or of course you could just work with people tring to standardise all
 meta data for video which would include a license portion.

Please don't. There are already standards for attaching licensing  
information to web content (in both HTML and RSS). Don't create a video

specific one. In fact don't create one at all, use the one that already

exists.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


 
Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [videoblogging] Thx and Canon PowerShot Elph series as video cam

2007-01-31 Thread Halcyon
funny, I have been using my canon powershot610 for most my videos lately and
very happy with the results (especially for web)..  But just picked up the
Xacti today.

But I've also been looking at an elph as a super mobile option, too.
(Since the Xacti is a bit too...*impresive* a bulge in the ol' pants
pocket.)


-halcyon
pinkbroadcasting.com


On 1/31/07, Caleb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Love the list, even if i can't always keep up. And thanks to everyone
 for the help with FCP settings.

 I'm researching tiny video cameras because my Canon SD400 is old. But
 it's so good at video with a low profile and the 640/15fps is
 surprisingly good. Everything here is from the 400, http://lrntv.blip.tv/
 except the Tales of Grim which was minidv as original.

 But to get the point. The Xacti's looks good, and have a mic input,
 but I get the feeling it is too early to go there and my Canon will
 suffice for a bit more. I just want an Elph with a mic jack basically!

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 31.01.2007 kl. 23:48 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andreas, what should we be doing in our RSS?

I was thinking about the Creatice Commons namespace. You guys are already  
using that so those who subscribe to RSS feeds from blip are already  
getting that information.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


[videoblogging] female journalists fellowship

2007-01-31 Thread Robyn Tippins
Some of you female vloggers might be interested in this.

 

---

The International Women*s Media Foundation is now accepting 


applications for the 2007-08 Elizabeth Neuffer Fellowship, named for 1998
IWMF 


Courage in Journalism Award winner and The Boston Globe correspondent who 


was killed in Iraq in May 2003. Applications will be accepted until 


April 15, 2007, and the fellowship will run from September 2007 - May 


2008. 





One woman journalist will be selected to spend an academic year in a 


tailored program with access to Boston-area universities as well as the 


Boston Globe and New York Times. The flexible structure of the program 


will provide 
 the fellow
 with opportunities to pursue academic research 


and hone her reporting skills covering topics related to human rights. 


The fellow will also have a key role in the annual Elizabeth Neuffer 


Forum. 





The Elizabeth Neuffer Fellowship is open to women journalists whose 


focus is human rights and social justice. A successful applicant will be 


dedicated to a career in journalism in print, broadcast or Internet 


media and will show a strong commitment to sharing knowledge and skills 


with colleagues upon the completion of the fellowship. Excellent written 


and spoken English skills are required. Expenses, including airfare and 


housing, will be covered. 





The International Women*s Media Foundation was launched in 1990 with a 


mission to strengthen the role of women in the news media worldwide. 


The IWMF network includes women and men in the media in more than 130 


countries worldwide. 





An electronic version of the
 application form is located on the IWMF 


website at www.iwmf.org/programs/neuffer/fellowship.php. For more 


information about the program, visit www.iwmf.org/programs/neuffer or e-mail



[EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Please feel free to share this information with interested colleagues. 





Sincerely, 





Elisa Munoz 


Director of Programs 


IWMF

 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: copyright

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Leppik
You could, at least in theory, buy an ASCAP license.  ASCAP is the  
organization which grants blanket music licenses to radio stations,  
night clubs, etc.  This would allow you to legally use just about any  
recording in your podcast or vlog.

The only problem is that ASCAP is really intended for revenue- 
generating businesses, and their minimum license is $288/year for  
online use.  That's a bit pricey for most hobbyists worried about the  
miniscule odds of a lawsuit.

   -Peter

On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Ron Watson wrote:

 Ryanne,

 What terms are you claiming under mangatune?

 I hope you're not using the 'commercial but poor' classification as
 your basis for that usage. The last time I went to look for new music
 at mangatune, there was a clarification on that classification.

 I've been cutting my own music as of late.

 I really must get better at not allowing music to play in the
 background in our pieces. It is so hard though. We always have  
 music on.

 Then of course there is the issue of capturing someone's discdog
 routine on video and posting it. One part history and capturing a
 public event and one part copyright. I'd like to think that the
 interests of people (history and public venue) would outweigh the
 interests of profit (copyright), but we all know what's important in
 our society.

 I am going to be checking out ccmixter. Maybe I can run into Lucas
 there and apologize for the verbal beating i gave him before I
 understood where he was going (I really got hosed on that email lag -
 totally out of context 24 hours later...).

 ron

 On Jan 31, 2007, at 2:30 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

  I've used Magnatune, giving credit as they require. But I get very
  tired of
  the process of hunting for the right soundtrack.
 
  --
  best regards,
  Deirdré Straughan
 
  www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
  www.tvblob.com (work)
 
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 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


 

_
Peter U. Leppik
CEO
Vocal Laboratories Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack
Yeah, we do point to the Creative Commons license using their CC
namespace.  Can we go further than that?  Is there a standard for
conveying the substance of the attribution requirement in RSS?

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup
Pedersen
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:00 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences

Den 31.01.2007 kl. 23:48 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andreas, what should we be doing in our RSS?

I was thinking about the Creatice Commons namespace. You guys are
already  
using that so those who subscribe to RSS feeds from blip are already  
getting that information.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


 
Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
There's a copyright element in RSS 2.0, but that's a human-readable  
string and not really useful for machines. If you want machines to read  
the license info the CC namespace seems to be the way to go. It doesn't  
help that copyright is a channel-level element so it's completely  
useless in many cases.

- Andreas

Den 01.02.2007 kl. 00:01 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yeah, we do point to the Creative Commons license using their CC
 namespace.  Can we go further than that?  Is there a standard for
 conveying the substance of the attribution requirement in RSS?

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup
 Pedersen
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:00 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences

 Den 31.01.2007 kl. 23:48 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andreas, what should we be doing in our RSS?

 I was thinking about the Creatice Commons namespace. You guys are
 already
 using that so those who subscribe to RSS feeds from blip are already
 getting that information.




-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


[videoblogging] Re:Congrats to Hayden! G�night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

2007-01-31 Thread Hayden Black
Thanks guys.   The full scoop; I met with HBO Online
last month and they expressed great interest in 3
different pitches (all comedies and all completely
different from each other and GNB).  

We're proceeding with the first (Abigal's X-Rated
Teen Vlog) and the other two might come into play
later.  We're also discussing HBO's possible
participation in Goodnight Burbank.  I will continue
to write/produce and perform in GNB while
writing/producing and performing  Abigail X.

Hayden




 

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[videoblogging] anniversaries and awards [nsfw]

2007-01-31 Thread Philip Clark
Hi gang,

Today is my fifth anniversary of putting video on a blog at swordfight.org. 
Somehow, that 
original videoblog still exists ~ http://swordfight.org/video

This week also marks the fifth anniversary of Hot Action, a blog of erotic 
non-fiction and 
photographs that would probably be of interest to very few people on this list. 
I've also 
been videoblogging there for a while.

NSFW: http://hotaction.ca

Hot Action has been nominated in a few categories for Dirtyspoke's 2006 Sexblog 
Awards, 
including Sexiest Sexblogger alongside our very own Violet Blue. The voting 
closes 
tonight at midnight EST. If you could spare a moment to vote, I'd appreciate it 
~

http://dirtyspoke.com/2007/01/16/blog-awards/

Warmest regards, your pal, 
Philip.

--
http://swordfight.org
http://hotaction.ca
http://destroyhotaction.com



Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread sull
I was originally told they would allow user uploads but in recent weeks i
have found out otherwise.
Still, it's a great project to keep up on  if your into TV... as someone
who doesnt pay for TV besides netflix and my internet connection, i'm
interested.
Blip will probably partner with them as well.

*Will you be soliciting user-generated video submissions? *

 No, that we will not do, for two reasons. We're all about the TV
 experience--full-length programming, full-screen viewing, and high quality
 not only in terms of entertainment value but in terms of resolution. All of
 our programming is put into channels and you never stop viewing
 something--there's always something following, as with TV. And replicating
 this TV experience has a lot of value to viewers. People spend a lot of time
 watching TV still, even though there are a lot of negative things about TV,
 such as you lock yourself into one location, you lock yourself in time, and
 there are limited interactive features. We take these TV features, bring
 them onto the Internet, and empower users with Internet technologies. That
 said, user-generated content does not really match the fundamental
 philosophy we have today about the TV experience. We are not in the business
 of small clips, short clips, and low resolution. And also there are the
 copyright infringement concerns with these self-uploading mechanisms. We
 have chosen not to enable that on the platform. That may change in the
 future when the two big factors--quality concerns and infringement
 concerns--are solved. That said, we will allow smaller production companies
 to upload. We're unlocking a huge mid-tail section of the content industry
 which does not have an outlet today.

 *What process will these small-scale video producers go through to get
 their content on Joost? *

 We have a manual startup process--you're in a dialogue with us and you
 sign a contract, so we have a personal relationship with everyone. Of
 course, that will not scale so we're automating that process. Due to the
 fact that different content providers use different formats, this is also an
 experimentation process for us and the entire content industry and how we'll
 go digital. Our quality desires are very very high--we are looking for
 higher-resolution and better quality media that we can transcode into a
 DVD-like experience on the Web.



On 1/31/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I repeat: it's just not that exciting for videobloggers. Yeah, I've
 looked
 at it, it's pretty, so what? From all I've been able to find out, they
 have
 NO intention of allowing just anybody to upload - to protect against
 piracy - they only want to distribute professional content. So with
 Joost
 I can watch TV on my PC. Even if I wanted to do that, there are quite a
 few
 ways I could do it already. If this project was being carried out by
 anyone
 but Zennstrom et al, it would not be anywhere near the news it has been.
 As
 always, to they who already have (PR clout), more shall be given...

 --
 best regards,
 Deirdré Straughan

 www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
 www.tvblob.com (work)

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http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
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[videoblogging] Re: Feedburner/New Blogger Woes! Woe is Me!

2007-01-31 Thread Heath
I just switched a couple of days ago and I did use labels, but I did 
not go back and do any retro labeling and I haven't had any issues as 
far as I know..sorry Bekah, not much help from me I know

Heath
http://batamngeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And the hits just keep on coming! I am much vexed.
 
 So after a chat with Bill C. that solidified my desire to move to
 Wordpress I set about deleting all those damn Blogger 
labels...guess what!
 
 Without the labels, the posts reappear in the Feedburner feed!
 HOWEVER, they are completely out of order! There is now the de-
labeled
 posts (chronologically incorrect), followed by a whole lot of no 
posts
 (because they still have the labels on them) followed by all the 
older
 never-labeled posts. This would be fine except that now the whole FB
 feed is completely out of order! Time as defined by humans is not 
a
 factor with this feed, now. Dates have become totally irrelevant to
 it. I am baffled and annoyed.
 
 I guess I should just be grateful that I can put the posts back into
 the feed at all...
 
 No, not so much
 
 Anyone one else out there using their old classic Blogger template
 on new Blogger having feed issues? Is it really just me?
 
 Bekah
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969
 missbhavens1969@ wrote:
 
  Long overdue videoblog clean-up is proving to be a biotch.
  
  I ping and I ping but to no avail. I know the posts and their 
videos
  exist and can be subscribed to in some capacity because people are
  seeing my posts, and I'm sure they aren't all site 
visits...although,
  I just noticied this today so maybe this problem cropped up while 
I
  was asleep. This new  Blogger Labels thingy has resulted in posts
  being zapped from my feedburner feed. Did my site feed change with
  migrating to New Blogger? I checked iTunes too and those posts are
  old-old-old. So I know the feedburner feed is working, but it's
  totally out of date. It is only showing chronologically backwards 
from
  the posts I have not yet labeled using Blogger. I had to republish
  each post with the new labels...what on Earth did it do? I am so
  peeved. Should I re-sych the feed? For some reason that scares
  me...probably because Feedburner associates the word nuclear 
with
  it. And I was poking around in Bloglines and see that I have
  subscribers to three different feeds NONE of which are my 
feedburner
  feed? Huh?
  
  Any ideas out there?
  
  Sad and cranky,
  Bekah
  --
  http://www.missbhavens.com
 
 
http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheMiscellaneousMischievousMisadventuresOf
Missbhavens
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Re: [videoblogging] anniversaries and awards [nsfw]

2007-01-31 Thread Markus Sandy
congrats phil!!!

these are some of my favorite sites :)

On Jan 31, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Philip Clark wrote:

 Hi gang,

  Today is my fifth anniversary of putting video on a blog at 
 swordfight.org. Somehow, that
  original videoblog still exists ~ http://swordfight.org/video

  This week also marks the fifth anniversary of Hot Action, a blog of 
 erotic non-fiction and
  photographs that would probably be of interest to very few people on 
 this list. I've also
  been videoblogging there for a while.

  NSFW: http://hotaction.ca

  Hot Action has been nominated in a few categories for Dirtyspoke's 
 2006 Sexblog Awards,
  including Sexiest Sexblogger alongside our very own Violet Blue. 
 The voting closes
  tonight at midnight EST. If you could spare a moment to vote, I'd 
 appreciate it ~

 http://dirtyspoke.com/2007/01/16/blog-awards/

  Warmest regards, your pal,
  Philip.

  --
 http://swordfight.org
 http://hotaction.ca
 http://destroyhotaction.com



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http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
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Re: [videoblogging] anniversaries and awards [nsfw]

2007-01-31 Thread Rupert
Five years!

On 31 Jan 2007, at 23:40, Philip Clark wrote:

Hi gang,

Today is my fifth anniversary of putting video on a blog at  
swordfight.org. Somehow, that
original videoblog still exists ~ http://swordfight.org/video

This week also marks the fifth anniversary of Hot Action, a blog of  
erotic non-fiction and
photographs that would probably be of interest to very few people on  
this list. I've also
been videoblogging there for a while.

NSFW: http://hotaction.ca

Hot Action has been nominated in a few categories for Dirtyspoke's  
2006 Sexblog Awards,
including Sexiest Sexblogger alongside our very own Violet Blue.  
The voting closes
tonight at midnight EST. If you could spare a moment to vote, I'd  
appreciate it ~

http://dirtyspoke.com/2007/01/16/blog-awards/

Warmest regards, your pal,
Philip.

--
http://swordfight.org
http://hotaction.ca
http://destroyhotaction.com






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RE: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Hudack
Yeah, that's not particularly helpful for us.

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup
Pedersen
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:33 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences

There's a copyright element in RSS 2.0, but that's a human-readable  
string and not really useful for machines. If you want machines to read

the license info the CC namespace seems to be the way to go. It doesn't

help that copyright is a channel-level element so it's completely  
useless in many cases.

- Andreas

Den 01.02.2007 kl. 00:01 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yeah, we do point to the Creative Commons license using their CC
 namespace.  Can we go further than that?  Is there a standard for
 conveying the substance of the attribution requirement in RSS?

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup
 Pedersen
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:00 PM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk  our cc licences

 Den 31.01.2007 kl. 23:48 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andreas, what should we be doing in our RSS?

 I was thinking about the Creatice Commons namespace. You guys are
 already
 using that so those who subscribe to RSS feeds from blip are already
 getting that information.




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[videoblogging] Mooninites take over Boston

2007-01-31 Thread taulpaulmpls
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombscare/index.html

Anybody care to comment on the state of our nation, when a Adult Swim
character shuts down a bridge?

*eyes roll* How these lightboards were mistaken for bombs, is beyond
my comprehension.



[videoblogging] Re: anniversaries and awards [nsfw]

2007-01-31 Thread Enric
Congrats!

This got me wondering when I first put up video on the web.  I edited
a music video for a local San Francisco Bay Area band, Dorothy's
Melting, in July, 1996.  I recently found a copy of the video I made
and put it on my current vlog site, Cirne:

http://www.cirne.com/vlog/2006/12/18/dorothys-melting/

I don't recall if I put it or other video ever on a website before 2001.  

But in 2000 was the 25th Anniversary of the student co-op I lived at
during College at U.C. Berkeley called Lothlorien.  I was talking with
somneone I lived in the house about setting up a site for Lothlorien.
 The domain name Lothlorien was already taken (if you know you're
Tolkein, it's the land of the elves.)  But lothlorienhouse.org was
available.  

So I setup the site, http://lothlorienhouse.org/ .  Each elf clicked
open a window for Photos, Chat, Discussion Board and on the far right
for Video.  I had made several Super-8 films when I lived at
Lothlorien which I had transferred to video.  I digitized some short
sequences and put them up as quicktime movies:

http://lothlorienhouse.org/loth_video78_79.html

On the Internet Arhive WayBack Machine, they first appear on March 1, 2001

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://lothlorienhouse.org
http://tinyurl.com/29dref
http://tinyurl.com/2aojpx

So on March 1st, 2007 will be 6 years that I will have that video on
the web ;)

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://www.cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi gang,
 
 Today is my fifth anniversary of putting video on a blog at
swordfight.org. Somehow, that 
 original videoblog still exists ~ http://swordfight.org/video
 
 This week also marks the fifth anniversary of Hot Action, a blog of
erotic non-fiction and 
 photographs that would probably be of interest to very few people on
this list. I've also 
 been videoblogging there for a while.
 
 NSFW: http://hotaction.ca
 
 Hot Action has been nominated in a few categories for Dirtyspoke's
2006 Sexblog Awards, 
 including Sexiest Sexblogger alongside our very own Violet Blue.
The voting closes 
 tonight at midnight EST. If you could spare a moment to vote, I'd
appreciate it ~
 
 http://dirtyspoke.com/2007/01/16/blog-awards/
 
 Warmest regards, your pal, 
 Philip.
 
 --
 http://swordfight.org
 http://hotaction.ca
 http://destroyhotaction.com





Re: [videoblogging] Mooninites take over Boston

2007-01-31 Thread Rupert
what happen?  somebody set up us the bomb.

whenever i think it's getting crazy and paranoid in england,  
something brilliant happens in america to make me feel ok again.

you have no chance to survive make your time!


On 1 Feb 2007, at 00:33, taulpaulmpls wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombscare/index.html

Anybody care to comment on the state of our nation, when a Adult Swim
character shuts down a bridge?

*eyes roll* How these lightboards were mistaken for bombs, is beyond
my comprehension.





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[videoblogging] Re: joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was originally told they would allow user uploads but in recent
weeks i
 have found out otherwise.
 Still, it's a great project to keep up on  if your into TV... as
someone
 who doesnt pay for TV besides netflix and my internet connection, i'm
 interested.
 Blip will probably partner with them as well.
 
 *Will you be soliciting user-generated video submissions? *
 
  No, that we will not do, for two reasons. We're all about the TV
  experience--full-length programming, full-screen viewing, and high
quality
  not only in terms of entertainment value but in terms of
resolution. All of
  our programming is put into channels and you never stop viewing
  something--there's always something following, as with TV. And
replicating
  this TV experience has a lot of value to viewers. People spend a
lot of time
  watching TV still, even though there are a lot of negative things
about TV,
  such as you lock yourself into one location, you lock yourself in
time, and
  there are limited interactive features. We take these TV features,
bring
  them onto the Internet, and empower users with Internet
technologies. That
  said, user-generated content does not really match the fundamental
  philosophy we have today about the TV experience. We are not in
the business
  of small clips, short clips, and low resolution. And also there
are the
  copyright infringement concerns with these self-uploading
mechanisms. We
  have chosen not to enable that on the platform. That may change in the
  future when the two big factors--quality concerns and infringement
  concerns--are solved. That said, we will allow smaller production
companies
  to upload. We're unlocking a huge mid-tail section of the
content industry
  which does not have an outlet today.
 
  *What process will these small-scale video producers go through to get
  their content on Joost? *
 
  We have a manual startup process--you're in a dialogue with us and you
  sign a contract, so we have a personal relationship with everyone. Of
  course, that will not scale so we're automating that process. Due
to the
  fact that different content providers use different formats, this
is also an
  experimentation process for us and the entire content industry and
how we'll
  go digital. Our quality desires are very very high--we are looking for
  higher-resolution and better quality media that we can transcode
into a
  DVD-like experience on the Web.
 
 
 -- 
 Sull
 http://vlogdir.com (a project)
 http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
 http://interdigitate.com (otherly)

Their resolution statement doesn't make any sense.  I personally use
the DV codec which has to actually be _compressed_ to get down to
mpeg-2 format to go onto a DVD.  I also know of several videoblogs
that are shot on HD, which is CLEARLY higher resolution than DVD. 
They seem to not be aware that there are people/groups shooting on
professional cameras and editing on professional equipment that
compress their output to 480x270 merely to place it on the internet. 
The original source footage could go straight to television or DVD, so
resolution isn't a useful parameter for restricting UGC.

The rest of it makes perfect sense.  For them to offer you a contract,
you have to prove to them that you can deliver content that they would
put on their service.  Not just once, either. :D  You'd have to prove
that you had the ability and concept(s) to continuously provide what
they consider to be full-length (30 minutes minus commercials?),
quality content with high production values.  They're not going to
accept people falling off of skateboards @ 320x240x15fps.  They're
also not going to accept consecutive episodes of a cat playing with a
ball of string.

What they seem to have left out (and I know that was just an excerpt
and not indicative of the entire scope of their project), is what
television allots for the masses, which is public access
television.  ANYBODY can get a 30-minute slot on public access.  If
you're lucky, you might get a consecutive hour-long block.  That's the
tradeoff.  No, you may not put anything on NBC, but here's MNN...
feel free to express yourself there.  I'm not aware of how tough,
time consuming or money-draining it would be for them to make one
channel that showed random material where people could submit their
cat-videos and hope to get a time-slot.

While we're on the subject, I thought that was what Current.TV was
supposed to be, but I had the wrong idea.  I didn't realize that
people vote for videos and then depending on how many votes you get,
you're CONSIDERED for going on the channel.  It's still up to them to
decide whether to put you on or not, even if you get a ton of
greenlights.  No cat-videos there, either.

Anyway, depending on what Joost (supposedly pronounced Yost, like
toast, according to a yet-unconfirmed statement) decides to do as
far as mid-tail production companies, we may see some of the groups
on 

Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging with your Mac account

2007-01-31 Thread Lan Bui
One limitation is bandwidth, 10gb of transfer may not be enough. One  
popular video could easily kill 10gb in the public side of things. If  
the church's membership is small and it will never go over then it  
might be a great option to use if they are already used to using it.  
Less training means more time to be productive.

-Lan
www.LanBui.com





On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Erin Nealey wrote:

I asked this question awhile back and it somehow got lost in the
shuffle and no one responded, so I'll ask again one more time :)

I recently joined the video team at my church, and they are
interested in having me set up a video podcast for them. Currently,
they publish a podcast with iWeb using a Mac account, and I suspect
they are wanting to do the same with a video podcast. I haven't
typically seen many other videobloggers, at least in this group, using
their mac account for their podcast/videoblog. Other than iDisk space
limitations, I have to think there are other disadvantages of doing it
that way, though I wouldn't know for sure because I don't have a full
Mac membership.

I am meeting with them tonight and I am going to be talking with them
about using Blip.tv. I'm going to show them my process of getting my
own videos on the web... but want to make sure there are indeed many
advantages of doing this as opposed to using iWeb/Mac which I don't
know much about.

Can anyone advise? I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

Erin Nealey
Mom's Brag Vlog
nealey.blogspot.com






[videoblogging] Re: copyright-magnatune

2007-01-31 Thread Gromik Tohoku
Thanks for Magnatune,
their licence seems fairly reasonable for educators
wanting to develop projects. Plus they contribute work
to ccMixter.

Thanks for sharing,
Nicolas


Gromik Nicolas
Tohoku University
Sendai, Japan
fax=81-22-7647

http://www.filmedworld.com/page.php?3
http://nag-productions.blip.tv/?
http://sendai-city-tourism-tohoku-university.blip.tv/

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[videoblogging] Re: copyright - attribution

2007-01-31 Thread Gromik Tohoku
sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly does giving
proper attribution mean when dealing with a film?

Does that mean including the source at the end of the
film?

Some state feed back to the artist? is that the same
as above?

Not sure on this one.

Thanks,
Nicolas


Gromik Nicolas
Tohoku University
Sendai, Japan
fax=81-22-7647

http://www.filmedworld.com/page.php?3
http://nag-productions.blip.tv/?
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[videoblogging] send me your links

2007-01-31 Thread Robyn Tippins
I decided to take Dean up on his offer to organize the Barcamp videoblogging
track, so I'm editing the wiki now and need links to list on the page.  What
I am looking for is just people who have vlogs, so someone who's interested
in what videoblogging is can see some examples vlogs.  If you want to show
your show off, shoot me an email offlist.

 

Robyn



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Re: [videoblogging] Congrats to Hayden! G’night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

2007-01-31 Thread Micki Krimmel
Hayden, you rock! Congrats!

On 1/31/07, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Via http://newteevee.com

 G'night Burbank Scores HBO Online Pilot

 Written by Liz Gannes Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 9:32 AM PT
 Hayden Black, the creator of mock news show Goodnight Burbank, has
 signed a deal to create a pilot for the new HBO Online, he said via
 email this morning.

 Black said the new show's working title is Abigail's X-Rated Teen
 Vlog and he will be writing, starring, producing, and directing it —
 oh, and also delivering it by late next week. He is still in talks
 with HBO Online regarding picking up his first show, Goodnight Burbank.

 http://newteevee.com/2007/01/31/gnight-burbank-scores-hbo-online-pilot/

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging with your Mac account

2007-01-31 Thread sull
Hey Erin, hope you are well.

I took a brief look at the mac tools when i bought my macbookpro and I'm
not into it.
The specs are not good either.  For God's sake (heheh ;) use Blip.tv!

sull

On 1/31/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   One limitation is bandwidth, 10gb of transfer may not be enough. One
 popular video could easily kill 10gb in the public side of things. If
 the church's membership is small and it will never go over then it
 might be a great option to use if they are already used to using it.
 Less training means more time to be productive.

 -Lan
 www.LanBui.com
 

 On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Erin Nealey wrote:

 I asked this question awhile back and it somehow got lost in the
 shuffle and no one responded, so I'll ask again one more time :)

 I recently joined the video team at my church, and they are
 interested in having me set up a video podcast for them. Currently,
 they publish a podcast with iWeb using a Mac account, and I suspect
 they are wanting to do the same with a video podcast. I haven't
 typically seen many other videobloggers, at least in this group, using
 their mac account for their podcast/videoblog. Other than iDisk space
 limitations, I have to think there are other disadvantages of doing it
 that way, though I wouldn't know for sure because I don't have a full
 Mac membership.

 I am meeting with them tonight and I am going to be talking with them
 about using Blip.tv. I'm going to show them my process of getting my
 own videos on the web... but want to make sure there are indeed many
 advantages of doing this as opposed to using iWeb/Mac which I don't
 know much about.

 Can anyone advise? I would greatly appreciate it!

 Thanks!

 Erin Nealey
 Mom's Brag Vlog
 nealey.blogspot.com

  




-- 
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http://vlogdir.com (a project)
http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread sull
Good points, Bill.

Joost (pronounced like juiced actually) is more likely thinking about the
world of YouTube and most other clip sharing destinations and not so much
the deeper efforts of videobloggers that can be found here and using
services like blip.tv or youare.tv.  That's why I mentioned the possibility
of Blip brokering some deals for some of the blip hosted shows.  Mid-tail
or torso media has been the hot topic for several months now as being
much more crucial to success for companies (like blip) that are seeing
beyond the bend... and not getting wrapped with the current successes of
clip sharing social sites like YouTube.  Likewise, YouTube and others that
got started as viral video and casual webcam hosting services are also
gearing up to get in on the quality action of independent video makers.

Joost is important because their software works very nicely from my testing
and it will soon run on any platform even VOD and Game consoles
technically.  So it has the potential to penetrate all over the place giving
a simple UI on top of a Fluid P2P video streaming experience.

If Joost proves to maintain this great TV experience for net video, then
they should be golden and everyone will want to channel their media through
Joost.  It would be basically beating Veoh at there game (and others).
Joost has massive talent, money and infrastructure in place with no
immediate risk of failing.

It takes more than just a desktop app and a tie-in to bit-torrentesque tech
and a website to really go far with this Internet Video stuff.  You need to
have cutting edge technology and a network to run it on... and some tight
relationships with content providers.  Page views will continue to matter
not while we head into a similar market as the traditional TV broadcast
medium becomes mirrored in this new net video medium.

320x240 is a preview, baby ;)

sull

On 1/31/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was originally told they would allow user uploads but in recent
 weeks i
  have found out otherwise.
  Still, it's a great project to keep up on if your into TV... as
 someone
  who doesnt pay for TV besides netflix and my internet connection, i'm
  interested.
  Blip will probably partner with them as well.
 
  *Will you be soliciting user-generated video submissions? *
  
   No, that we will not do, for two reasons. We're all about the TV
   experience--full-length programming, full-screen viewing, and high
 quality
   not only in terms of entertainment value but in terms of
 resolution. All of
   our programming is put into channels and you never stop viewing
   something--there's always something following, as with TV. And
 replicating
   this TV experience has a lot of value to viewers. People spend a
 lot of time
   watching TV still, even though there are a lot of negative things
 about TV,
   such as you lock yourself into one location, you lock yourself in
 time, and
   there are limited interactive features. We take these TV features,
 bring
   them onto the Internet, and empower users with Internet
 technologies. That
   said, user-generated content does not really match the fundamental
   philosophy we have today about the TV experience. We are not in
 the business
   of small clips, short clips, and low resolution. And also there
 are the
   copyright infringement concerns with these self-uploading
 mechanisms. We
   have chosen not to enable that on the platform. That may change in the
   future when the two big factors--quality concerns and infringement
   concerns--are solved. That said, we will allow smaller production
 companies
   to upload. We're unlocking a huge mid-tail section of the
 content industry
   which does not have an outlet today.
  
   *What process will these small-scale video producers go through to get
   their content on Joost? *
  
   We have a manual startup process--you're in a dialogue with us and you
   sign a contract, so we have a personal relationship with everyone. Of
   course, that will not scale so we're automating that process. Due
 to the
   fact that different content providers use different formats, this
 is also an
   experimentation process for us and the entire content industry and
 how we'll
   go digital. Our quality desires are very very high--we are looking for
   higher-resolution and better quality media that we can transcode
 into a
   DVD-like experience on the Web.
  
 
  --
  Sull
  http://vlogdir.com (a project)
  http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
  http://interdigitate.com (otherly)

 Their resolution statement doesn't make any sense. I personally use
 the DV codec which has to actually be _compressed_ to get down to
 mpeg-2 format to go onto a DVD. I also know of several videoblogs
 that are shot on HD, which is CLEARLY higher resolution than DVD.
 They seem to not be aware that there are people/groups shooting on
 

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.0 Beta now available !

2007-01-31 Thread Enric
This a major new release of vPIP.  There's new features for people
with different interests doing video on the web.

Before that, vPIP now has it's own domain:  http://vpip.org/  The old
domain, http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/,
informs of the changed domain.  The documentation has been updated for
the changes and a new page is available on using vPIP with Flash:
http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/ .  Let me know of any errors in
the docs.

For HTML Newbies

vPIP can now take all the a href=url to movie ../a links
and make them work immediately with vPIP.  The nmew script vpipit.js
will do that.  All the installation instructions for different web
platforms include vpipit.js.  With this you don't need to figure out
how to call the vPIP function (onclick=vPIPPlay(...)) in the link.
This is similar to how Andreas' and David Meade's scripts
automatically embed.

NOTE:  The downside to this approach is that the web page needs to
fully load before the script sets all a href= links that it sees
pointing to movies to embed with vPIP.  If a viewer clicks on a link
before the page finishes loading it will just jump to the movie rather
than embed through vPIP.  So it's recommended to use the standard
approach of calling vPIP, if you want your movies to consistantly embed.

For Designers
-
You may now design the visual interface of the vPIP internal Flash
player, cirneViewer.swf.  The visual interface for buttons like Play,
Pause, Rewind, etc. are loaded dynamically from an XML file when the
player starts.  You can specify a different XML file than the default
that points to your own images for the visual interface.  The
information on the XML file tags and the controls they dress up is on
the vPIP page for Flash:

http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/

An example of the default interface included is on this recent vlog
entry of mine:

http://tinyurl.com/38lwb5
or
http://www.cirne.com/vlog/2006/11/30/carp-caviar-extracts-122/


For Programmers
---
vPIP has been rewritten as object-oriented javascript.  This should
make it easier to extend and modify vPIP for your own purposes.  This
is a first pass, so furthe encapsulation may be useful.  

If you create a new capability that would be useful for others, please
let me know so that I can look at including it in a future release. 
If you would like to be a co-developer of vPIP, let me know.  I'm
going to look at including it in a open source repository.

More Flash Player Features
--
Besides being able to dynamically load the visual interface, there are
now two versions of the internal flash player.  The smaller version is
320x300 in size and will be used if the video width is 320 or less. 
This is the default width and player.  If the video is larger than 320
in width, it will use the 450x340 player.

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported video (and audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv


;),

Enric
-===-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.cinegage.com





Re: [videoblogging] joost invite (the venice project)

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
 Joost is the new tv project of the Kazaa/Skype guys. You can get an
  invite here in the coming hour or two: 
 http://gigaom.com/2007/01/31/giveaway-thursday-fon-wi-fi-routers-joost-and-some-babelgum/#comment-577417

for the record
Daniel Salber, the original mac developer for FireAnt, is now the lead
developer for the mac version of Joost. So its good to have someone
from the community working on this project. I'm not sure where they
are headingbut I know Daniel understands what we are all tryiong
to do.

jay


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Re: [videoblogging] vPIP 1.0 Beta now available !

2007-01-31 Thread CarLBanks
Sweet! I'm upgrading at once!

On 2/1/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 This a major new release of vPIP. There's new features for people
  with different interests doing video on the web.

  Before that, vPIP now has it's own domain: http://vpip.org/ The old
  domain, http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/,
  informs of the changed domain. The documentation has been updated for
  the changes and a new page is available on using vPIP with Flash:
  http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/ . Let me know of any errors in
  the docs.

  For HTML Newbies
  
  vPIP can now take all the a href=url to movie ../a links
  and make them work immediately with vPIP. The nmew script vpipit.js
  will do that. All the installation instructions for different web
  platforms include vpipit.js. With this you don't need to figure out
  how to call the vPIP function (onclick=vPIPPlay(...)) in the link.
  This is similar to how Andreas' and David Meade's scripts
  automatically embed.

  NOTE: The downside to this approach is that the web page needs to
  fully load before the script sets all a href= links that it sees
  pointing to movies to embed with vPIP. If a viewer clicks on a link
  before the page finishes loading it will just jump to the movie rather
  than embed through vPIP. So it's recommended to use the standard
  approach of calling vPIP, if you want your movies to consistantly embed.

  For Designers
  -
  You may now design the visual interface of the vPIP internal Flash
  player, cirneViewer.swf. The visual interface for buttons like Play,
  Pause, Rewind, etc. are loaded dynamically from an XML file when the
  player starts. You can specify a different XML file than the default
  that points to your own images for the visual interface. The
  information on the XML file tags and the controls they dress up is on
  the vPIP page for Flash:

  http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/

  An example of the default interface included is on this recent vlog
  entry of mine:

  http://tinyurl.com/38lwb5
  or
  http://www.cirne.com/vlog/2006/11/30/carp-caviar-extracts-122/

  For Programmers
  ---
  vPIP has been rewritten as object-oriented javascript. This should
  make it easier to extend and modify vPIP for your own purposes. This
  is a first pass, so furthe encapsulation may be useful.

  If you create a new capability that would be useful for others, please
  let me know so that I can look at including it in a future release.
  If you would like to be a co-developer of vPIP, let me know. I'm
  going to look at including it in a open source repository.

  More Flash Player Features
  --
  Besides being able to dynamically load the visual interface, there are
  now two versions of the internal flash player. The smaller version is
  320x300 in size and will be used if the video width is 320 or less.
  This is the default width and player. If the video is larger than 320
  in width, it will use the 450x340 player.

  About vPIP
  --
  vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
  the viewer clicks on the link.

  Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
  viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
  on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

  The supported video (and audio) formats are:

  * Quicktime
  o .mov
  o .mp4
  o .mp3 (audio)
  o .smi or .smil
  o .3gp
  * Windows Media
  o .avi
  o .wmv
  o .asf
  o .wma (audio)
  * Flash
  o .swf
  o .flv

  ;),

  Enric
  -===-
  http://www.cirne.com
  http://www.cinegage.com

  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: copyright - attribution

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
 sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly does giving
  proper attribution mean when dealing with a film?
  Does that mean including the source at the end of the
  film?
  Some state feed back to the artist? is that the same
  as above?
  Not sure on this one.

here's the exact wording:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/
Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by
the author or licensor. 

So its confusing in the vlogging context when an aggregator site pulls
videos from a feed...and loses connection with the creator. How will
anyone know what kind of attribution you want?
Lucas Gonze feels like its hopeless and futile to worry about any of
this. Just make it...and put it out there.

I still feel like its important we at least try to use Creative
Commons effectively.
we are at such an early stage...its just a matter of education and
creating habits with online video.
we dont need to be dummies like the MPAA/RIAA...but it's healthy to
build respect and awareness for one another.

Right now...I think the best thing to do is put your CC license IN your video.
As Lucas says, expect your video to show up anywhere.
if your CC license is IN your video, then it goes everywhere.

Pick your license:
http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/meet-the-licenses
Then we need to start making crazy, custom videos for them to add to our videos.

Jay






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[videoblogging] Re: copyright

2007-01-31 Thread Diana
I've been using OpSound. What I find most difficult about using sites
like Opsound and CCmixter is that most of the music is too dramatic or
techno to use in my short videos. 

Don't know where I can find more light-hearted music though...

Diana

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  With all this discussion of CC licence, I was
   wondering, what do videoblogging members do when
   adding music to films. Do you create your own? How do
   you source your music? How do you refer music? Do you
   abide by the law?
 
 i have had to break a bad habit of using commercial music in my videos.
 its tough because ive always found it hard to not use the music i hear.
 
 Ryanne (ryanedit.com) has been making her own music in Soundtrack in
FCP studio.
 its pretty amazing what she can make using their loops.
 
   Personally, I use ccMixter material only, I can not
   make my own music at the moment. I have used really
   small segments of popular mix, and have referenced
   them at the end of a film. Not sure if this is
   breaking the law.
 
 CCmixter a good place. wish there was more stuff to choose from.
 
 Jay
 
 
 
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 Here I am
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
  As some of you may have read yesterday the reason for me subscribing
  to this group is that I'm on the organising commitee for
  www.BarCampUSA.org which is a 'mega' barcamp being held in Wisconsin
  in August (23rd to 26th) later this year.
  It is projected that over 5000+ people from around the world (I have
  friends/colleagues coming from as far as Australia, Singapore, India)
  are going to get together for 4 days straight 24 hours a day.
  The reason for reaching out yesterday to this group was to make video
  bloggers aware of this event because we have had an overwhelming
  response from the podcasting community (they already have about 10
  different events scheduled over the course of the 4 days and will be
  organising a podshack etc as a communal point for all things podcast).
  Personally I wanted to see a lot more video related activities so I
  reached out yesterday to ask who wanted to take this project on, not
  important who but noteably it was the quiet achievers in the group
  who reached out and put their hand up to take on this project (i'm
  sure they are looking for more volunteers and creative ideas so
  contact me if you think you have what it takes).

here's the link to the Videoblogging section that Robyn started:
http://www.barcampusa.org/wiki/index.php?title=Videoblogging

Dean, what's the story behind the event?
who are the organizers?

Jay



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: videoronk our cc licences

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
  Yes, all of that information is in the feed.  It includes the permalink
  to the post on blip in the item:link element, and also includes special
  metadata that's presently unique to blip for credit.  Here's an example
  from a random video I picked on blip:
  blip:userthatphoneguy/blip:user
  blip:show30 Seconds with Phone Guy/blip:show
  blip:showpagehttp://thatphoneguy.blip.tv//blip:showpage
  blip:picturehttp://blip.tv/uploadedFiles/user_photo_thatphoneguy746.jp
  g/blip:picture
  So that tells the aggregator that the video is from the 30 Seconds with
  Phone Guy series, which can be found at http://thatphoneguy.blip.tv/.
  It even gives the aggregator a picture that can be used to represent the
  series, which can be found at
  http://blip.tv/uploadedFiles/user_photo_thatphoneguy746.jpg.  We'd love
  to use standard elements for these pieces of metadata, but they don't
  exist yet -- we're including them in our own namespace right now so that
  our formal partners can pick up and use the data for attribution
  purposes.

okayso the info is all there if an aggregator site wants to read
it and provide titles and links.
I see Lucas' argument that its crazy for a vlogger to whine when his
video is posted by another site. But i think its important that we try
to help educate on linking or giving attributing.

and as I said recently, im going to start putting a CC license INSIDE
my videos so I dont need to rely on someone's good will.

or Ill use this:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p132/marshal_rules/169957orjk5u57eg.jpg

Jay



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Is Creative Commons just bullshit?

2007-01-31 Thread Jay dedman
  What I mean is that services like youtube arent just cc-incompatible
  because they wont show license info, but because a fundamental right
  granted by creative commons is that people are allowed to download,
  redistribute, rehost, etc, the content, just so long as the other
  terms are adhered to.
  I brought this up once ofr twice before, because when I reviewed
  creative commons site it reminded me that this is one of the main
  points of creative commons in the first place. They are against stuff
  like DRM and preventing people downloading, because this takes away
  rights that the license is giving to people.

ive been pleasantly surprised to see how most people pretty quickly
learn how to rip those flash videos on Youtube. Its definitely a
barrier...but pretty small.

Looking back...it made sense for Youtube to go with Flash. I remember
when Steve Chen just launched YouTube and he came to one of our meet
the vloggers at the Apple Store in NYC. I hated the flash format
because you couldnt download the videoyou couldnt get the video in
an enclosure. But what they did was make it so drop dead easy to
publish and watch.

as we're learning, there will be different levels of videoblogging.
quick flash video, independent shows, HD fullscreen craziness

Jay

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