Re: [videoblogging] Mevio?
Mevio used to be called PodShow before they re-branded and changed their name. It's the company founded by Adam Curry Ron Bloom, and is one of the first podcast media companies. There's been a lot written about this company online if you search for it. ~ Josh On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.comwrote: I know mevio.com must love me because they long ago scraped my content from my site and put ads on the page. Thanks, Mevio, yer AWESOME. http://www.mevio.com/extshow/406114/Echoplex+Park+Video+Podcast Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Has anyone used or had exposure to Mevio? If so, what do you think about Mevio? Thanks for any input/thoughts. -Nicole You'll possibly get better response if you actually say why you care about Mevio...and what your experience is. Providing a link to this site would also be helpful. As if, it feels as if you;re a marketer for the site. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] PBS Video - full-length episodes online
I'd like to share a freshly launched project with this group -- this is the new video portal for PBS, and is a project that I'm truly proud to have been a part of (I'm the product mgr). http://pbs.org/video/ The first thing you’ll notice is that the site has full-length episodes from many of the iconic shows on PBS (arguably some of the best programming on television). This library of full-length content will be growing substantially over time with new content added every week, and eventually the goal is to make as much programming available on the web as possible. This will include local content, full-length documentaries, and extensive archives. What’s not yet apparent is that this is only the first step of a much larger project that will serve many different constituents at PBS — most importantly our community of 100’s of local stations. There are components that enable stations to publish their own content, share content between stations, and build custom online video experiences. We’re also using the same underlying platform to power video experiences on various PBS producer websites and also PBS KIDS GO! http://pbskids.org/go/video/ The whole effort has required a lot of coordination across departments at PBS and could not have been possible without extensive collaboration with local stations and producers. There’s still a long way to go and a lot of potential yet to be realized -- there's a lot of features that didn't make it into this first launch, particularly some of the more innovative things that might make it more interesting and appealing to this group (aside from the content). So that's why I'm asking for your feedback here! Please take a look, enjoy some of the videos, and feel free to drop a note to let me know what you think. Thanks! - Joshua Kinberg PBS, Dir. Video Product Mgmt Email: jkinb...@gmail.com Twitter: @joshua [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] How patience made a good camera
Imagining the possibilities of Flip + Cisco... When high-speed wireless networks are pervasive (and not constrained by Telecoms), and low-cost purpose-built cameras like Flip can share to the network immediately That will be the AK-47 of video cameras ~ Josh On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Non-techy people love 1) the fact that there's no cable and 2) that the Flip software lets you can transfer, edit and upload to youtube really easily. They're prepared to sacrifice quality and features for simplicity and ease of use. Having better quality pictures isn't worth it if you're less able to share because the technological process daunts you. By the packaging and marketing, I think Flip camera has borrowed their aesthetic from Apple. They are really good at one thing. The iPhone isn't as feature packed as the Nokia, but much easier to use. (we played around with the N96 the other day and it was way too confusing) People like devices that don't need instructions. We've been teaching some non-profits how to document their work...and the Flip camera is really the easiest thing to get them to use. Rupert's reasoning fits our experience. Maybe the Flip is like the gateway drug. Gets people comfortable shooting/uploading...then they'll crave more control and quality. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Live Chat with Bill Moyers happening NOW on PBS.org [started @ 2pm EST]
A live online chat with Bill Moyers is happening right NOW at: http://www.pbs.org/engage/live-chats/02-10-2009/bill-moyers There's some discussion relative to the Micropayment/Sustainability models thread ongoing in this list. Here's a sample: 2:48 pm EST *David Bean, Portland, Oregon:* Wouldn't an independent media ethic include funding for it? How about having subscribers through internet service providers (ISPs) pay for content? * 2:51 pm EST *Bill Moyers: * You've put your finger on the crux of the matter: How to get people to pay for the information they need? Getting them to pay for the information they want – entertainment, for example – is not the big problem. But the information we need as citizens, to make democracy work and hold government accountable – that's the rub. Newspapers are dying less from too few readers than from too little advertising. There were no ads in last Sunday's New York Times Book Review, for example. An executive at the Times was quoted as saying, If people won't pay for what they love, we're out of business. New business models have to emerge, including revenue from subscribers. Joel Kramer – the former editor of the Minneapolis Star (and, I might add, once my intern when I was publisher of Newsday) -- has started a regional journalism Web site base on a not-for-profit model. He sells ads and sponsorships and raises the rest of his budget from people who care about serious news coverage. He puts the issue this way: Serious journalism is a community asset, not a consumer good, and people (and foundations) should support it, as they support museums. Publish a newspaper worth $2 a day, the price of a cup of coffee, and $5 on Sunday. Raise the quality. Make it more i-depth, more analytical, to complement the immediacy of your free Web site, and do not make that deeper more insightful coverage available for free on the web. Joel is part of an interesting debate on these issues going right now at http://roomfordebate.nytimes.com/2009/02/l0/battle-plans-for-newspapers/?hp. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Comment plug-in?
Check out JS-Kit: http://js-kit.com/comments/ - Josh On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember a couple years ago people using Haloscan to add comments to their website. I know there must be some kind of service you could find to turn an HTML site into a blog-like structure. Jay On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:17, foster_image [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - I'm creating a vlog, with content hosted by Blip. I'm building the site myself in Dreamweaver, and just need a way to have viewers post comments. I've looked at wordpress and blogspot - but don't want to use them. Just really need a way to enable posting of comments. What's the best way to do this? Many thanks - Daniel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] thats what pop culture means.....
Popular Culture No Longer Applies to Me http://ia310107.us.archive.org/0/items/punkcast885/88509_art_brut_bad_weekend.mp4 Get the T-shirt: http://shirts.earthlingsoft.net/bought/art-brut.html :-) -josh On 9/25/07, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave Britney alone. On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Jay dedman wrote: I just read this blog post and came across this paragraph: http://newteevee.com/2007/09/21/college-humor-pwns-funny/ And for a business, popularity is key, which is why CollegeHumorTV taps into the rich vein of pop culture to fuel its jokes. Really clever, stand-alone sketches don't do that well on the Internet. They're not the kind of videos that go viral, said Gurewitch. For us to stay a money-making business, we need to make sure videos have a lot of popularity. For some reason it just hit me: the way to be popular is to make videos about what is happening right now. So if people are talking about Facebook, make a funny video about Facebook. This is what talking about, this is what is being searched for online. This is popular culture. This is how to be popular. I'm a retard for not having really grasped this concept. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] FireAnt acquired by Odeo
Today it was announced that FireAnt's software and technology http://GetFireAnt.com was acquired by SonicMountain, a company that also recently acquired Odeo http://odeo.com (see: http://tinyurl.com/3bbpsg). I've been asked to join the new team, serving as VP of Product Development, and will be heading up FireAnt's transition (among other projects) as we re-launch everything under the Odeo brand later this year. First of all, I want to say Thank You to everyone in the videoblogging community who supported FireAnt along the way, especially Jay Dedman, Daniel Salber, Erik Radmall, and Clint Sharp, who were instrumental in launching this project. We met a lot of wonderful creative people, and made some really important lifelong friendships. It's been an amazing privilege to contribute to this dynamic and innovative community, and especially to have been involved from such an early stage. I also want to thank Jonathan Weiss, Drew Reynaud, and Jesse Boley who continued FireAnt's technology development over the past year, which was demo'd at Video on the Net in March 2007. When we first launched ANTs Not TV at Vloggercon in January 2005, there were about 20 active videobloggers – we knew each of them personally and worked with most of them to create those magical RSS feeds with enclosures. It was amazing to see all these video channels updating over time and to watch them in a unified experience. There was nothing else like it. It was clear that something powerful was happening. It was a new kind of television, and yet it was not like TV at all – it was open to anyone and the possibilities seemed endless. And it began to spread… thanks to the many talented and creative video producers, educators, and evangelists. While FireAnt had its share of struggles along the way as a start up, I'm encouraged that the ideas we helped pioneer have grown incredibly stronger over the past few years. This Not TV (now more often called Internet TV) is really changing the media culture, and it's having profound social effects. The medium is enabling new voices and conversations. The playing field is being leveled – the barriers between Internet TV and TV are disintegrating. So it's up to us to create what we want to see and share… We don't have to rely on Rupert Murdoch and Sumner Redstone to create our culture. Thank goodness! I look forward to watching your videos (and subscribing!). When I get back to producing a more regular videoblog (or whatever it's called), I hope you'll subscribe and leave me a comment :-) Best, Josh - http://JoshKinberg.com
Re: [videoblogging] FireAnt acquired by Odeo
Before I forget to mention it: I also wanted to send a VERY heartfelt thank you to Jennifer Myronuk, who took the last 8 months off to help me find a good home for FireAnt's software and really supported me, even when things were tough. Jen's a citizen journalist/documentary video enthusiast who was in the process of launching her own software (a FileMaker shareware program called StoryField) when she stepped in to help out. (She's also my fiance). Thank you, Jen. This space is all about community -- especially the personal space to grow and experience what you're made of. I'm definitely in awe of all of the great work being produced from the teams at Miro and MeFeedia (and many others) and am honored to have had the opportunity to have been part of a early software project and exchange ideas along the way with many great people. - Josh On 9/14/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah memories. It was an amazing time. being able to watch everyone else's video back then. Every... single... video... that everyone else made. Working with Daniel Salber on FireAnt for the Mac was a great experience. New features and bug fixes that I suggested were always implemented quickly. Being able to work that closely with a developer was lots of fun. Sadly the Macintosh development didn't keep up with the PC development and I ended up dropping FireAnt and moving to Miro. During this period, my Mac crashed and I ended up starting over and subscribing to fewer feeds. What's happening now is that I only subscribe to about 13 RSS 2.0 feeds with media enclosures. Others I subscribe to, but go watch online. I find many new videos via Twitter, Email, IM and Facebook. Another thing I frequently talked to Jay about was getting the ability to be able to see what others using Fireant were subscribed to, and beyond that, see what videos they liked or recommended. That feature would have been cool. Good luck with Odeo Josh. I'm interested in seeing what happens. --Steve http://stevegarfield.com On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: When we first launched ANTs Not TV at Vloggercon in January 2005, there were about 20 active videobloggers – we knew each of them personally and worked with most of them to create those magical RSS feeds with enclosures. It was amazing to see all these video channels updating over time and to watch them in a unified experience. There was nothing else like it. It was clear that something powerful was happening. It was a new kind of television, and yet it was not like TV at all – it was open to anyone and the possibilities seemed endless. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Quick update: FireAnt (GetFireAnt.com)
Hi all - It's been awhile since I've participated directly in discussions on the videoblogging list -- although I always enjoy reading all of the posts and keeping up on the latest happenings in the community. Just in case you've wondered why things have been quiet, there's been some behind-the-scenes work on FireAnt and an announcement will be coming out soon about future plans and our new partnership, which includes re-launching the the latest version of our software. At the moment, we're having some trouble with the fireant.tv domain name and are working with the domain registrars to get it resolved. We haven't suddenly switched our focus to bug extermination, as domain parking key words would otherwise indicate. :-) The good news is our main site GetFireAnt.com http://www.getfireant.com is up and running and we've been directing most of our web traffic to that address for a long time. Just wanted to send a quick update and say hi and hope to catch up soon at future events. Best, Josh -- www.joshkinberg.com Mobile: 201.328.4547
Re: [videoblogging] importing opml in fireant on intel mac
Hey Josh, Not sure what exactly the trouble is. Email me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll walk through it together. Best, Josh On 7/16/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some reason i can't import the opml file from my ibook with fireant on my intel imac does this work for anyone? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] NYPD Arrest Video on Rocketboom
Might help if you read the NYTimes article for background on NYPD surveillance leading up the the RNC in 2004: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332648000en=8da9969fc1cbb3d1ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Yes, BikesAgainstBush was a very public project -- it was in the news media, and had a videoblog. The issue is in the way it was treated as a threat by law enforcement and systematically prevented. -Josh On 4/2/07, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Kinberg wrote: Working with Jen Myronuk, we produced/edited a short video/field segment for Rocketboom in response to the NYTimes articles about illegal NYPD surveillance during the 2004 RNC convention. So... you were the good surveillers, doing surveillance on the bad surveillers, is that it...? (Me, I think that if you're in the public record, you're in the public record, and it's strange to try to apply different rules to different people. But I'm probably being insufficiently nuanced again) jd Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] NYPD Arrest Video on Rocketboom
Just a follow-up from my earlier post: Working with Jen Myronuk, we produced/edited a short video/field segment for Rocketboom in response to the NYTimes articles about illegal NYPD surveillance during the 2004 RNC convention. http://www.rocketboom.com/stories/rb_07_mar_28 Just wanted to share this video with the community and would really appreciate your thoughts. I may take part in legal action to get access to the surveillance records under the Freedom of Information Act. Best, Josh
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video on the Net 2007 recap video VON07
Really fantastic work, Jim! Very impressed with your intuitive storytelling techniques, camera work and narration. It's This American Life VON edition. Best, Josh On 3/26/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent piece, Jim. Very nice. :) If you add http:// to your sig, it shows up as a link: http://www.vergenewmedia.com/ -- Bill C. http://TheLab.ReelSolid.TV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi assembled video bloggers, Your intrepid reporter here files a final recap video from the Video on the Net conference. I wasn't able to cover everything. So if there's ideas or themes that missed and you think merit discussion, please link to them in the comments section. Thanks! Jim Long Founder, Verge New Media, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vergenewmedia.com aim: newmediajim skype: newmediajim twitter: newmediajim Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] My videoblogging roots and today's NYTimes article
Today, I'm unsure how to react to this news -- having your person, property and rights violated is an unsettling experience. Would definitely like to hear your thoughts on this as I'm processing the information. On Friday morning, I was informed by a NYTimes reporter that recent documents uncovered just how far the NYPD went to suppress Free Speech -- mine and others -- at the Republican Convention in 2004. Here's what the NYTimes reported in the Sunday edition: City Police Spied Broadly Before G.O.P. Convention http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/nyregion/25infiltrate.html?ex=1332561600en=3af0cd0ac568e430ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Bikes Against Bush http://www.bikesagainstbush.com was my graduate thesis project, a combination of mechanical engineering, WiFi, interactive mobile messaging, and videoblogging. It was featured in Popular Science magazine for the engineering design of the bicycle that printed chalk text messages sent through SMS and from my website onto streets and sidewalks in NYC. Apparently, the NYPD considered this project to be a threat and was determined to shut it down. They had a copy of the Popular Science article in a file along with 4 pages of notes as to why my project was a threat. This led to my bizarre arrest, which happened on national television while I was being interviewed by Ron Reagan on MSNBC's Hardball. I was arrested with no crime being committed. Just simply plucked from the street, jailed for 24 hours, and my computer, cell phone and bicycle confiscated and held for over a year (the bicycle was never returned). The fake charges against me were dropped 6 months later. The NYTimes article confirms what I had long suspected -- that the NYPD was unlawfully conducting surveillance of artists, activists, and others seeking to exercise free speech at the RNC convention in 2004. Here are the videos: The Bike Project http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/iloveny.mov The Arrest -- Street Footage http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/bikesarrest.mov MSNBC Interview http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/blog/msnbc_8-29-2004_med1.mov BikesAgainstBush was important because it was one of the earliest demonstrations of the power of the blogosphere to distribute video -- the raw street-footage of the arrest circulated around the blogosphere and was viewed by millions of people both before and after the edited version aired on MSNBC's Hardball. Immediately after this project, I began working on software to distribute video via RSS. I met Jay Dedman around this time in NYC, and we began working together. This became ANT (ANT's Not Television) and later FireAnt http://FireAnt.tv. I wanted to share my thoughts here, in the videoblogging community, as I'm reflecting today on the state of media, how far we've come and the work that remains... Best, Josh
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
I'll be at VON and look forward to seeing everyone! FireAnt will be presenting in the Video Pavilion and giving a demo of our latest stuff. See you there... Best, Josh On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there as well. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyrights Laws for using Music in Video
http://music.podshow.com has a catalogue of podsafe music that you can use in your own shows. http://magnatune.com also sells music that you can legitimately use in podcasts. Hope these links are helpful. Best, Josh On 2/14/07, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, it's not the best idea to use mainstream copyrighted music if you're trying to be commercial (make money) from your work. There's a lot of smaller artists that are Creative Commons friendly and want you to use their music in return for attribution. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nick Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know anything about the law about using popular bands music in your videos? Do you have to source the band and titled of the song? What does the RIAA think about it? What do we have to do to make it legit? or can we? Nick Schmidt Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Hosts?
Google Video is also good for longer form content. Chuck Olsen recently published his entire feature length film, Blogumentary, there. -Josh On 2/10/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It says brightcove right under his video. -- Bill C. http://ems.blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Beth Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: query from a nonprofit: I need to put 30-60 minutes of video online, with the quality and speed that Obama is using here: http://www.barackobama.com blocked::http://www.barackobama.com/ Can anyone recommend a good host/provider? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Are you a nerd?
Great video... also fascinating that it was created by a professor of cultural anthropology. -Josh On 2/9/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That gave me goosebumps. So what does that make me? -Verdi On 2/9/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all the real nerds out thereyou'll love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOEeurl= this video really lays out how videoblogging was just the next logical step in self-publishing. Now its about what we do with all this stuff... Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails
, by creating a new media Microformat. It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, but it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when you're writing a blog post. P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as well as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information. Peace, -Mike mmeiser.com/blog On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck petervandijck@ wrote: Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may have stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about that, I'm sure he'd be happy to get it running again.. all my fault! Peter On 1/19/07, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: Hi Bill, We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release will support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are included in the link to the video enclosure file like this: a href=http://link/to/video.mov; rel=enclosureimg src=http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg; //a We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, but it seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website update that will address this along with many other bug fixes and new features. Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv On 1/19/07, billshackelford bshackelford@bshackelford%40gmail.com wrote: My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do not utilize the Yahoo Media RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a legal reason.. why don't they just come up with their own namespace? I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails from Mefeedia but my thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my thumbnails show up on FireAnt? Here is my channel on FireAnt: billshackelford.com podcast http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails
Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) The only reason is that rel is not valid XHTML attribute for img -josh On 2/9/07, Devlon Duthie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than rel=thumbnail in this example? (It's consistent?) Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Joshua Kinberg wrote: class=media-thumbnail ? Yes, I think a class attribute on the image is good -- all that is needed is standardization on the class name. Also, it would make sense if the image were contained within some type of block that refers to the video, like this: a href=http://link/to/video.mov; rel=enclosure img src=http://link/to/thumbnail.jpg; class=media-thumbnail / /a That way, you would know which video the thumbnail image is referring to. my .02 cents... -Josh On 2/9/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/9/07, billshackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah. encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. and consider using blip feeds (blip users). sull You're both COMPLETELY missing the point. This is NOT an alternative to mediaRSS. It's not an either or thing. When you're composing a blog post you can't very well mark something up in mediaRSS because you can only markup mediaRSS if you're actually coding your own RSS feeds. You need a way to be able to TELL wordpress... or feedburner or whatever is creating your RSS feed... heh this image, it is the thumbnail, please put it in the thumbnail field of the RSS feed. Secondly... Sull, people cannot just go and use their blip feeds instead of their feedburner feeds. Because their blogs are far more than just videos from blip... their blogs contain text posts, and blogged posts from flickr, and posts that are reblogged from others. That makes about as much sense as telling them just to use their delicious feed, or flickr feed instead of their blog. Maybe my post was to long or something, but I'm sort of disapointed in the responses. Other than the fact that there is no rel atribute to img there's no reason not to do this. Perhaps andreas could suggest and alternative to rel, or perhaps I'd like to suggest playing the devils advocate, does it really matter if there's no rel attribute to img src? What's wrong with extending it? It guarantees there will be no conflicts, and it's in keeping with other standards like relTag, relNoFollow, relEnclosure and many others. Again just to play devils advocate... but what's wrong with extending HTML with a rel standard? If that is evil incarnate what other choices do we have? class=media-thumbnail ? I think this is already getting to convoluted... we need something the everyday people can understand... getting people to make the jump from rel= to class= is a big step to ask thousands of people to remember... these are not coders they're bloggers. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat thing... and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary problem first. I.E. img src= rel=thumbnail It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything. It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure, rel=payment and a host of others. It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like audio, and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element. Any objections to this? -Mike On 2/8/07, duthied2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] duthied%40gmail.com wrote: Hey all. I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried to catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked before But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their entriesdo you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently. Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new ones. -Devlon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on. The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not semantically specified. This is to say they are not specified in standard way which can be recognized
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Server
Hey Mike, How would you determine if a video includes an advertisement in this scenario? -josh On 2/7/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do this. In the future we may charge a fee for hosting videos that carry advertising that we didn't broker. - Original Message - From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Feb 07 13:52:21 2007 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Video Server are there any problems with hosting on Blip, but brokering one's ad deals separately? -M mark raheja www.thememeingoflife.com markraheja [at] gmail [dot] com 416.451.3640 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Wow! Steve Jobs takes a stance against DRM
Posted a reaction on my blog (trying to blog more these days)... http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/archives/2007/02/steve_jobs_take_1.php -Josh On 2/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really interesting. And not just related to music. Online video content is getting seriously locked up with DRM, and exactly the same argument applies: Steve Jobs: The third alternative is to abolish DRMs entirely... and Apple would embrace it in a heartbeat. If the big four music companies would license Apple their music without the requirement that it be protected with a DRM, we would switch to selling only DRM- free music on our iTunes store. Every iPod ever made will play this DRM-free music. Why would the big four music companies agree to let Apple and others distribute their music without using DRM systems to protect it? The simplest answer is because DRMs haven't worked, and may never work, to halt music piracy... these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. I have ripped many of my DVDs to my Mac and iPod, and TV is taped and digitised and YouTubed. Trying to DRM content sold legally on online stores is pointless, expensive and even counterproductive. As I banged on about a couple of weeks ago, the BBC is obsessed with DRM, as so many broadcasters are - they just don't Get It, and yet they could be leading the way since they're uncommercial. They're limiting the growth of the technology and marketplace in pursuit of an expensive lost cause. The assumption is No DRM = Unlimited Piracy = No Revenues Problems with the Regulator. There's a whole lot of politics here, but what annoys me most is that DRM limits the choices of companies like Apple and the BBC in developing their technologies and content, when could really take things forward in a progressive way. We need to put pressure on the advocates of DRM to educate them - they have 20th century mindsets and are afraid of the internet. But who do we persuade and how do we do it? Jobs must have tried to persuade the music companies' managements personally, and I would guess he's done it energetically and articulately for years. And yet it still hasn't worked. No wonder he's pissed off - it's Apple who are getting sued, not the Big 4. (that's only part of the Story, though, isn't it? iTunes aside, Apple have been getting more and more insular and walled recently, it feels, so perhaps they been infected with the DRM bug by their music biz partners and need to take their own advice) On 7 Feb 2007, at 01:03, Joshua Kinberg wrote: This is more related to the digital music industry, but I think its important nonetheless: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ Very interesting that Steve Jobs, whose company has probably benefited most from DRM, is now taking an anti-DRM stance. -Josh [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Wow! Steve Jobs takes a stance against DRM
First, I'm not a supporter of DRM, and I understand its technical shortcomings... but to be clear, I don't think its the case that PlaysForSure is any less effective than any other DRM out there, including FairPlay. PlaysForSure is currently being used by just about every online music and video store, with the exception of iTunes (FairPlay) and eMusic (no DRM). The only reason I can see for Microsoft to use a different DRM for the Zune is to give the Zune Marketplace a particular competitive advantage -- which is the same reason that Apple is using FairPlay for the iTunes Store and does not support PlaysForSure on the iPod. It seems to be less about protection of content (as Steve Jobs claims) and more about protection of a competitive business advantage for the vertically integrated hardware-software combo. Also, you're definitely right that Apple could sell non-DRM music today if they wanted to, the same way eMusic does -- except the catalog of non-DRM music would probably be limited to independent labels as the Big Four music publishers would probably not allow this. -Josh On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, I disagree with your 4th option, it's no more viable and in fact pretty much the same option as #2. The only thing is apple will be on the recieving end of microsoft's inablility to support it's DRM across a wide array of device... as is CLEARLY the case with playsforsure and the fact that microsoft has completely ditched playsforsure for a new proprietary drm on their Zune... it's all shit for shits sake. Wether it's apple's DRM or Microsofts is hardly the point. I thought Steve addressed that when he pointed out Microsoft's failure with plays for sure. I DO however have a HUGE point. Why does Steve Jobs need the major label's permission to sell non-DRM music!? Apple is in a perfect position to start selling non-drm mp3's from major independent labels to prove the model... the exact same way emusic is! Surely there have been many viable labels that have come to apple with big enough independant arts who want to sell non-drm mp3's. Steve needs to put HIS money where his mouth is. I have a forth coming post on this. An open letter is an act in futility, a final straw... the act of the little guy down in the trenches... I find it rather off that someone who has so much power and resources feels compelled to publish an open letter. Steve jobs needs to offer those who want it the opportunity to by non-drm music.. . surely the labels cannot and have not made their contracts on selling OTHERS musicians music non-drm... such would clearly be anti-competitive behavior. Steve jobs has no-one to blame for the perpetuation of DRM but himself. I'd also like to point out he's the head of pixar... and has he tried selling pixar movies without drm. All this said and clearly 2007 might well be the death of drm on mainstream music at least. It's my belief that it may perpetuate for some time in niche markets... such as HQ proprietary markets... like ... Blueray... and HDDVD... which will never be mainstream... and only ever have tiny market share, because they're so damn closed. It's quite simple... the center of the marketplace *must remain open*, to be competitive. And law must remain within the capacity of human choice. The minute law is dictated by technology it divorces itself from the fine balance required to for humanity to function. There is no doubt we're in a prohibition era... an era of lawlessness caused by a seperation between law and reason. law mus remain in the realm of reason and human choice. Black markets such as P2P filesharing or so called darknets are a symptom... as is steve jobs monopoly over music... they are symptoms of society out of balance. At the center of that imbalance is intellectual propery law... copyrights, patents and trademarks which are incompatible with a culture that has in just a few short years completely shifted into the digital paradigm. In the digital realm everything is a copy and everythingnis copyable. Anyway, Steve jobs is not saying anything we haven't already been saying for 5 or more years... there's nothing new there, but he is saying it from a powerful position of authority. I don't think there's anyone else who could claim such authority on the subject. And again, Finally, he had better get off his lazy butt and start offering non-drm music from independant labels who want it. He's a brilliant idiot! He has the means they're just so obvious he has yet to grasp them. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 2/7/07, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted a reaction on my blog (trying to blog more these days)... http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/archives/2007/02/steve_jobs_take_1.php -Josh On 2/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really interesting. And not just related to music. Online video content is getting
[videoblogging] Wow! Steve Jobs takes a stance against DRM
This is more related to the digital music industry, but I think its important nonetheless: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ Very interesting that Steve Jobs, whose company has probably benefited most from DRM, is now taking an anti-DRM stance. -Josh
Re: [videoblogging] Help watching videoblogs on TV - confused
We have both Mac and PC in our house and although I hate Microsoft, it seems like Apple TV doesn't include access to live TV or using a HD recorder, which would lead me towards Windows Media Center. Combine Apple TV with Elgato EyeTV for the Mac and it looks like you have the solution you're looking for: http://www.elgato.com/ Best, Josh On 2/5/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone set up with Apple TV, Windows Media Center (or the new Sony LocationFree thing), to integrate their home systems? What's the best choice for tying everything together? I'm looking for largest range of functions and easiest to use, obviously. Our CD player and DVD player have both finally packed up. Our TV is a 15 year old blurry 14 inch unportable portable. I have been trying to persuade my technophobic wife that instead of replacing these things separately, we could get an integrated media system. She thinks I just want to watch videoblogs on TV. She's right - that's definitely a driving motivation - but I also like the idea of having one system to access: - Our music, both CD and online - Films, both DVDs and downloaded - The 100 or so vlogs that I subscribe to, and podcasts - Live digital broadcast TV with guide - Hard disk recorder and live TV pausing/rewinding Can I get ALL of these things through one nice TV with nice speakers? We have both Mac and PC in our house and although I hate Microsoft, it seems like Apple TV doesn't include access to live TV or using a HD recorder, which would lead me towards Windows Media Center. If there is a better third party system to use, I'd rather use that - but I need an easy navigation remote control system that won't piss off Kate. Does anyone have any views or experience? Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] is Creative Commons bulshit...Part 2
If you want protection CC doesn't matter. Don't do anything and all your rights are preserved. If you want to open up your work so that others can re-use/distribute without having to ask you for permission then CC licenses may be able to help you. The mantra to remember is: Creative Commons licenses gives you less protection that traditional copyright (which is automatic), and that is a good thing. Its important to note, that even with Copyright and CC licenses, there is also the Terms of Service that may apply if you upload your video to any of the video sharing services (eg: YouTube, Blip, others). By uploading to these services, you are agreeing to give away some of the rights you would have had under traditional Copyright... which makes sense because you are authorizing the video sharing service to host and distribute your video by uploading it to them -- but there may be other elements in the TOS that you should be familiar with. Someone recently posted a URL to a comparison chart of the various TOS for some of the video sharing sites out there what was that link? -Josh On 2/2/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 02.02.2007 kl. 23:59 skrev Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Josh Wolf posted a certain video on his blog and before the Feds got a hold of it, the local TV stations ran it on the news. Josh sent them a copy of his CC license and a bill and they paid up. You give away rights when employing a CC license. You don't *gain* any rights you didn't already have. This is an important difference. In Josh Wolf's situation he'd have an even stronger case against the TV-station had he not employed a CC license (not that it mattered since even the CC license was violated). If you want protection CC doesn't matter. Don't do anything and all your rights are preserved. If you want to open up your work so that others can re-use/distribute without having to ask you for permission then CC licenses may be able to help you. The mantra to remember is: Creative Commons licenses gives you less protection that traditional copyright (which is automatic), and that is a good thing. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] history
I definitely agree with Jay. It's sometimes hard to believe it's already 2007 and so much has happened in just the past couple of years. It's great to record our memories while they are still relatively fresh. Regarding videoblogging history posts, I wanted to link to Peter's earlier and more comprehensive videoblogging history post from December 2005. This would be great to add to the wiki and to start actively linking to the various people/event Peter researched then: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2005/12/04/2944/videoblogging-history I feel lucky to be able to have been a small part of this recent videoblogging history. I can't imagine where everything will be in 5-10 years (or even 12 months from now). Amazing how long ago 2004 seems... Best, Josh On 1/29/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike pointed that out to me last night so i also posted some related memories. http://spreadthemedia.org/node/2707 add it to the wiki or all will be forgotten! http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/The%20History%20of%20the%20Videoblogging%20Group jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] how to make a mashup with a youtube video
Perian.org looks like its for Mac OS X only. Here's a site that I don't think was mentioned that can convert FLV to other video formats: http://vixy.net/flv_converter -Josh On 1/26/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah what Phillip said. http://perian.org/ i think it might be against youtube terms though ;) On 1/26/07, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Markus -- On 1/26/07, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] markus.sandy%40mac.com wrote: hi lucas there are firefox plugins that will grab the flv easily https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/ i just tried using iSquint Ok, so let's say I get the FLV. I think that I'd need to convert it to Quicktime to be able to combine my new video with it -- have you ever seen a free tool for converting FLV to QT? -L -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Paid Subscription + CMS
You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan Freitas, who is on this list. Definitely check it out. -josh On 1/24/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron, I have some experience with selling music over iTunes. I suspect that a lot of this applies to selling video on iTunes. If you go to iTunes personally by filling in their online form, it can take six months or more to get your music onto the store because they have such a backlog of private applications to get through... and apparently sometimes they just never get back to you. So the best thing to do is to use a distributor/aggregator. However, most of them will screw you on rights, TC and charges. The company we chose (no personal association, just did research) was Tunecore, whose big selling point is that they don't take ANY rights or royalties, whereas other companies like CDBaby and The Orchard have sneakier TCs. Tunecore don't advertise a video service, but it might be worth getting in touch with them to see if they can do it for you if you choose the iTunes route. Or there may be other companies that specialise in video distribution to iTunes etc, but beware TCs. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org On 24 Jan 2007, at 02:57, Ron Watson wrote: I am wondering what iTunes has to off the little guy. ...iTunes...hmmm. Anybody have any experience navigating the iTunes pay for play scheme? I'm going to look into that right now. How many people would pay a few bucks to learn to teach their dog learn to retrieve in just a few minutes? Any help or discussion would be appreciated. Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] FireAnt.tv video thumbnails
Hi Bill, We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release will support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are included in the link to the video enclosure file like this: a href=http://link/to/video.mov; rel=enclosureimg src=http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg; //a We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, but it seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website update that will address this along with many other bug fixes and new features. Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv On 1/19/07, billshackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do not utilize the Yahoo Media RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a legal reason.. why don't they just come up with their own namespace? I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails from Mefeedia but my thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my thumbnails show up on FireAnt? Here is my channel on FireAnt: billshackelford.com podcast http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] iPhone app lockdown apparently confirmed
Phones/mobile devices with WiFi and fully functional web browsers have been around for a while. In fact, I have a Windows Mobile device in my pocket (T-Mobile Dash) that has WiFi and IE browser. I could also choose to install Opera, Minimo (Mozilla Browser for Windows Mobile), or another commerically available web browser (there are a few others). Is there something more to the WiFi/Browser capability of the iPhone that sets it apart? Is it because the display size is larger/higher resolution? -Josh On 1/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :( But this platform is still a huge step forward. Because of the fully functional web browser and wifi a TREMENDOUS amount of innovation can happen on the webservices layer. All this does is put a limit on innovation. Apple has given themselves a speed brake... That said... in response I almost gurantee that all the competing hardware manufacturers will try to play catchup by opening up their hardware completely in the hopes that 3rd parties will develop on these platforms and make them more competitive with apple. So all in all... it's a great day for the mobile web/ mobile computing. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 1/13/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no opportunity right now for third party development. He told Macworld: Right now the opportunities are limited to the accessory market. http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=16926pagtype=allchandate and other commentary about this at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/12/apple_lockdown_iphone/ Cheers Steve Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Sending camera files over the internet
try these: yousendit.com pando.com On 1/6/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, CarLBanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am collaborating with a friend to do video for our site and other projects. We need to be able to send large files over the internet easily. We tried SpinXpress and no matter how much you guys praise it, we just couldn't get it to work following all of the instructions. Is there a really good and easy way to transfer files over the internet? And I mean other than SpinXpress! -- http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com ftp? -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses
How to block a referrer using .htaccess http://www.bylandwaterandair.com/extras/code/htaccess_single_domain.php If MyHeavy is linking to the FLV files hosted by Blip, Google Video, and others, then those video hosts can implement the simple .htaccess rule and block the referrer links from MyHeavy, or serve alternate content to MyHeavy. As Lucas says, this is probably the most simple solution... -josh On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a link being fetched on the client side, not a copy on the server side, so it's not a copyright issue. I see what you mean. They're pulling to the FLV file from blip.tv and supimposing in flash they're own material on top. Regardless of the method, the presentation and action is breaking the CC non-commercial license. They are presenting through their flash player a video that they are not licensed to present. Their flash player is displaying frames of video without the rights to do that. Media (bytes) that they don't have a right to is being pulled through their player which resides on the client side. -- Enric Iff someone has a problem with something that they can easily fix, they should do the fix. Anything else is willful. What you want video aggregators to do will break the web. The web has a mechanism for doing what you want to do, which is the Referer header. If you use the existing mechanisms, you can achieve what you want and preserve the web at the same time. The alternative course that you are pursuing will not work and will destroy the web. Using Referer headers will work and will preserve the web. -Lucas On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone breaks a copyright whether individual or corporation and seeks to profit by it, then it is the right for the copyright holder to charge a value they want for their work. It is also a right to demand this not happen. Or to put on notice for a suit. The person whose material is being violated should not be considered guilty. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze lucas.gonze@ wrote: Their service is a Flash app which plays an arbitrary FLV file on any server. For example I can patch this URL of theirs for viewing Steve Garfield stuff on blip: http://www.myheavy.com/video.php?video_url=http%3A//blip.tv/file/get/Stevegarfield-BehindTheScenesJohnEdwardsYouTubeAndTheCampaignWebsite426.flvvideo_title=Behind%20the%20Scenes%3A...video_desc=video_author_name=Blip%20TVvideo_author_url=http%3A//blip.tvvideo_thumb_url=http%3A//blip.tv/uploadedFiles/Stevegarfield-BehindTheScenesJohnEdwardsYouTubeAndTheCampaignWebsite586.jpg To use this third party FLV instead: http://www.mediacollege.com/video-gallery/testclips/barsandtone.flv Giving this completely functional URL: http://www.myheavy.com/video.php?video_url=http://www.mediacollege.com/video-gallery/testclips/barsandtone.flvvideo_title=Behind%20the%20Scenes%3A...video_desc=video_author_name=Blip%20TVvideo_author_url=http%3A//blip.tvvideo_thumb_url=http%3A//blip.tv/uploadedFiles/Stevegarfield-BehindTheScenesJohnEdwardsYouTubeAndTheCampaignWebsite586.jpg To make this problem go away 100% blip.tv just needs to do a rewrite rule to block myheavy.com. This will do the job without a crazy lynch mob asking to extend the DMCA to be even more onerous and, given the blip guys' chops, will take less than ten minutes. The sky is not falling. Really. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Fireant podcatcher for the zune
Hi all, We haven't really posted about this one here yet... glad someone else broke the news. We were mostly trying to hit our target launch date to coincide with the Zune launch, and by all accounts, FeedYourZune had a very successful launch and filled an important niche that Microsoft left out of their initial product offering with the Zune. This version of FireAnt is completely new and redesigned -- definitely not the same old windows version. Please download and let us know what you think. FeedYourZune is the result of a lot of hard work over the past few months to re-architect FireAnt -- which is still in-progress. Expect more to come soon... In addition to the entirely redesigned UI, one of the other main features is that FireAnt can be easily branded/skinned. Over the next several months, we plan to launch several different powererd by FireAnt branded media players with various partners. Please stay tuned for much more to come... Looking forward to your feedback! Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv http://FeedYourZune.com On 12/14/06, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume it's just the same old windows version of fireant, but it's black, and has a new name. They should have made it mocha like zune's most infamous color. :) Just joking though, I'm really pleased to see Fireant siezing the moment. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 12/13/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woah that looks awesome! If only the Zune was worthy of FireAnt ;) +nathan Mike Meiser wrote: Anyone notice this? http://www.feedyour zune.com/ http://www.feedyourzune.com/ Imagine my suprise, I just stumbled on it at random and noticed it said powered by fireant. Way to hit the nail on the head Fireant crew. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/ blog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- cruXy: buy/sell/promote independent original creativity http://cruxy.com Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Fireant podcatcher for the zune
Hey Sull, Yes, Try uninstalling the old version of FireAnt first before installing the new... this is an issue we are currently resolving. Alternatively, you can try removing/renaming the FireAnt database located at: C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Application Data\Mycelia Networks\FireAnt\FireAnt.fdb Hop that helps... if you have other questions, we can go over them off-list. Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv On 12/14/06, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Josh. Good luck with the brandable app business. I booted up my PC and downloaded it. Couldnt get things going :( Here is a screengrab: http://spreadthemedia.org/files/feedyourzune_crash.jpg Should I clean out the fireant app first? The UI looked pretty slick from what i did see. Thanks, Sull On 12/14/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We haven't really posted about this one here yet... glad someone else broke the news. We were mostly trying to hit our target launch date to coincide with the Zune launch, and by all accounts, FeedYourZune had a very successful launch and filled an important niche that Microsoft left out of their initial product offering with the Zune. This version of FireAnt is completely new and redesigned -- definitely not the same old windows version. Please download and let us know what you think. FeedYourZune is the result of a lot of hard work over the past few months to re-architect FireAnt -- which is still in-progress. Expect more to come soon... In addition to the entirely redesigned UI, one of the other main features is that FireAnt can be easily branded/skinned. Over the next several months, we plan to launch several different powererd by FireAnt branded media players with various partners. Please stay tuned for much more to come... Looking forward to your feedback! Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv http://FeedYourZune.com On 12/14/06, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]groups-yahoo-com%40mmeiser.com wrote: I assume it's just the same old windows version of fireant, but it's black, and has a new name. They should have made it mocha like zune's most infamous color. :) Just joking though, I'm really pleased to see Fireant siezing the moment. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 12/13/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nathan%40cruxy.com wrote: Woah that looks awesome! If only the Zune was worthy of FireAnt ;) +nathan Mike Meiser wrote: Anyone notice this? http://www.feedyour zune.com/ http://www.feedyourzune.com/ Imagine my suprise, I just stumbled on it at random and noticed it said powered by fireant. Way to hit the nail on the head Fireant crew. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/ blog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- cruXy: buy/sell/promote independent original creativity http://cruxy.com Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Fireant podcatcher for the zune
Hey Josh, I feel your pain... We're a small team with limited resources at the moment. Over the past several months we've had to focus our energy on the Windows version. We are currently at work on a redesigned Mac version, but it is still in the early stages. Hopefully we'll have something on the Mac to show you soon. We always appreciate your feedback! Best, Josh On 12/14/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, us mac users stand in the wings with the old version... what is it a year now without updates? On 12/14/06, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Josh. Good luck with the brandable app business. I booted up my PC and downloaded it. Couldnt get things going :( Here is a screengrab: http://spreadthemedia.org/files/feedyourzune_crash.jpg Should I clean out the fireant app first? The UI looked pretty slick from what i did see. Thanks, Sull On 12/14/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] jkinberg%40gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We haven't really posted about this one here yet... glad someone else broke the news. We were mostly trying to hit our target launch date to coincide with the Zune launch, and by all accounts, FeedYourZune had a very successful launch and filled an important niche that Microsoft left out of their initial product offering with the Zune. This version of FireAnt is completely new and redesigned -- definitely not the same old windows version. Please download and let us know what you think. FeedYourZune is the result of a lot of hard work over the past few months to re-architect FireAnt -- which is still in-progress. Expect more to come soon... In addition to the entirely redesigned UI, one of the other main features is that FireAnt can be easily branded/skinned. Over the next several months, we plan to launch several different powererd by FireAnt branded media players with various partners. Please stay tuned for much more to come... Looking forward to your feedback! Best, Josh http://FireAnt.tv http://FeedYourZune.com On 12/14/06, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]groups-yahoo-com%40mmeiser.com groups-yahoo-com%40mmeiser.com wrote: I assume it's just the same old windows version of fireant, but it's black, and has a new name. They should have made it mocha like zune's most infamous color. :) Just joking though, I'm really pleased to see Fireant siezing the moment. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 12/13/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nathan%40cruxy.comnathan%40cruxy.com wrote: Woah that looks awesome! If only the Zune was worthy of FireAnt ;) +nathan Mike Meiser wrote: Anyone notice this? http://www.feedyour zune.com/ http://www.feedyourzune.com/ Imagine my suprise, I just stumbled on it at random and noticed it said powered by fireant. Way to hit the nail on the head Fireant crew. -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/ blog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- cruXy: buy/sell/promote independent original creativity http://cruxy.com Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Reminder: Webby Awards Film/Video submissions due Dec. 15
Just a reminder that the Film and Video submission deadline for the Webby Awards is this Friday, December 15. I think there are many active members on this list whose work is deserving of a Webby. Please consider submitting. For more info on submitting your work, please see: http://webbyawards.com/entries/index.php From the Webby's site: http://webbyawards.com/ -- Just as the Oscars honor film and the Emmys honor television, The Webbys is the first major award show in the world to honor original film and video programming that first premiered on the Internet. With new Academy members including Harvey Weinstein and Larry Aidem (Sundance Channel) who will judge the work and 11 categories like Comedy, Live Events and Drama, be part of online entertainment history! Enter your original content now! -- Here are the category listings for the Film and Video section: http://www.webbyawards.com/webbys/categories.php#film Best of luck! - Josh Kinberg http://FireAnt.tv http://FeedYourZune.com
Re: [videoblogging] MEDIA.DREAMHOST.COM
If Dreamhost licenses the On2 FLV encoder, then they'll have the same stuff used by just about every video upload portal on the web today. This can convert just about any format to FLV. -josh On 12/7/06, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure they're using ffmpeg, which is good, free and open source but has a significant disadvantage in terms of the latest codecs. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WWWhatsup Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:34 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MEDIA.DREAMHOST.COM I was a little disappointed to find the dreamhost encoder does not accept mp4 joly sull wrote: Dreamhost now offers flv transcoding and flash viewers/tools. It's not all the difference... and so far you cant do batch transcodings... but maybe soon you can. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Windows Server and .mp4
Here's what I found with a quick Google search... I've never dealt with IIS either: http://www.inventua.com/forums.content?forumid=1postid=168view=topic - You can fix this by adding a MIME type for mp4 in the IIS manager. To do this: 1. Open IIS Manager 2. Find your virtual directory/web site, right click, select Properties 3. Click the HTTP Headers tab. In the tab, click the MIME Types button down the bottom. 4. Click New. Enter extension .mp4, MIME type video/mp4. Click OK. - On 12/7/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone help this guy who emailed me? I am running windows server 2003 and I cant get it to read the .mp4 extention. Do you know how to enable it? Here is the error I get... HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found. Internet Information Services (IIS) I've never worked with a windows server before. Thanks, Verdi -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what?
Why not use HaveMoneyWillVlog to raise funds for this development effort? Or create a new HMWV style project for development... VlogDevBounty anyone? -Josh On 12/5/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Id love to help out. Anyway I'll start to talk about it here although I agree that more detailed discussions probably belong elsewhere. Is there somewhere we can go to talk about this in more detail on the web? Should we talk about it on drupal forums or is there better alternatives or reasons not to? I havent tried Drupal 5 beta yet. I plan to install it soon (been testing 4.7 previously). From memory, the video module isnt part of the core is it? So I guess its not really beneficial to have mediaRSS as part of the core unless video is too? I see the video module is being updated quite a lot recently, seems like automatic thumbnails and other stuff got added in November, by the looks of CSV messges: http://drupal.org/project/cvs/25274 So anyways I was ondering if you will be working with whoever is currently maintaining the video module, that sort of thing. I am not a very good programmer so Idoubt I can be too much direct help, but I can do testing give technical feedback. I have some funds that would probably translate to $200 US available to help the cause, if its actually of use. Is there some sort of channel for drual sponsored projects or is it just simply paying directly whoever is willing (eg you by the sounds of it, groovy), to dedicate some time to the work? Both my own future blog/vlog site, and some other projects, are on infinite hold waiting for me to do a drupal site properly with the features I know I want. Drupal has come quite a long way, esp the video module, and Im confident Drupal with the right modules can do 80% of what I need right now. Further improvements to video feed features are something I care enough about to contribute to financially, so may actually have more money than stated above available if this stuff starts to fly. There are also weirder things Id like to do if a few other existing modules did just a bit more, and knew about eachother a little more. I see google map and timeline modules, and it makes me wonder about mashing them together with video content uploaded to the site, and having odd new ways to see peoples videos mapped to time and space. It might be a dud idea for all I know, but until I see it I wont know if its a failure, and I dont qutie have the skills to make it happen. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matt Savarino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure sponsoring a G would improve the chance of adding mRSS to the Drupal core (version 5.0), which is still in beta. After the final release, all changes to the core modules will be part of the next version. However, mRSS would be easy to add alongside an existing Drupal site... You could create a new module that generates your mRSS file(s) upon each node add/edit, or better yet, just run it every hour w/ the cron function built into the module. If others are interested in Drupal, I'd love to talk more with you. I'm going to start building add-on modules for version 5... aggregator: - full support for enclosures, mRSS and geoRSS video: - improve add/edit form - expand mime-types (currently m4v not used w/ QT) - expand services (add myspace video, tagworld, etc) - add iTunes feed (w/ customized options like Feedburner) Email me offlist if you'd like to help out or have other feature requests. -Matt http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Media RSS what?
Here's the MRSS spec: http://search.yahoo.com/mrss It was developed by Yahoo! with a lot of collaboration from a community of contributors, including many folks on this list. FeedBurner supports MRSS in a pretty limited way -- really just as an addition to the enclosure element. Blip.tv includes a lot of MRSS metadata in their feeds, including support for media thumbnails and alternate versions of each video (FLV, Quicktime, etc.). Is there something in particular you want to do with MRSS? -josh On 12/3/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone help me understand about Media RSS? I know that Yahoo has created a spec. How can I create a Media RSS feed with all that cool metadata? Does Feedburner support Media RSS? Jay -- Me http://www.momentshowing.net My Book http://tinyurl.com/e6cap SF community http://RyanIsHungry.com Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com Educate http://node101.org Collaboration http://spinxpress.com Call now to activate 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Media RSS what?
Creating customized feeds of this sort is still rather difficult for non-programmers since its custom functionality that blogging tools just don't come with straight out of the box. It could probably be implemented with a plugin for Wordpress, MovableType, or Drupal (perhaps such plugins exist?) that could add the various custom fields/namespaces to the RSS feed. If these stations are currently using Drupal then that would be the place to start. I remember seeing a couple different Media Modules for Drupal a while back, but I lost interest in Drupal a while ago... might be worthwhile to look into it again and see if these have made much progress. If not, I'm sure you could get a Drupal consultant to make what you want relatively quick and cheap. -Josh On 12/3/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the MRSS spec: http://search.yahoo.com/mrss It was developed by Yahoo! with a lot of collaboration from a community of contributors, including many folks on this list. FeedBurner supports MRSS in a pretty limited way -- really just as an addition to the enclosure element. Blip.tv includes a lot of MRSS metadata in their feeds, including support for media thumbnails and alternate versions of each video (FLV, Quicktime, etc.). Is there something in particular you want to do with MRSS? yepi saw the spec, but am having a hard time fitting my brain around it. I am working with a group of Community TV stations that are starting to upload and trade TV programs for playback around the country. They want to attach a lot of metadata into their postsso they are asking if Media RSS could help them. Questions I have ishow do they create feeds that attach all this info into their feed? Do they need to make their feeds by hand? right now, they are just uploading to their own servers...and using Drupla to create their feeds. Jay Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] The other videoblogging community
frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap. Can you explain this statement further? What is 'crap' about the state of 'communities'? -Josh On 11/17/06, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This weekend at PodCamp West, I'm part of a discussion about Community Imperialism in DIY Media, because frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap. It's been a rough week, seeing everyday people invoking the DMCA, requesting DRM to protect content; open source getting attacked; watching the word 'community' get thrown around when it means 'our silo'. And then I saw this. A 10 minute video that damn near had me in tears. Do you consider them videobloggers? I do. And since they aren't aware of THIS community, I will completely step outside any jurisdiction and award them all a Vloggie Award. They deserve it, too. http://www.ericrice.com/blog/?p=208 ER Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] OT max/msp (was Re: question for Macbook Pro owners)
If you're on Mac, you may also want to check out Pd (PureData) -- its similar program to Max/MSP (also developed by Miller Puckette), except its free and open source. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Data I had been playing around with Pd a few years ago and OpenGL graphics capabilities were still pretty new to Pd (check out the GEM extension, Graphics Environment for Mutlimedia). I'm sure its come a long way and may be much closer now to Jitter in terms of functionality. Plus if you're learning, its great because Pd is free and Max/MSP/Jitter can be expensive. The programming concepts in Pd and Max are almost identical. -Josh On 6/5/06, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are u doing in max/msp/jitter Jan. I was running the student version on my windows laptop and have just upgraded to a macbook pro so waiting for the UB version before buying it. it's a neat program. have you tried Isadora also? very similar with the patching but less build it yourself - more patch it yourself. it's so quick to learn compared to max (so I bought it also for video until I get max again, though it does audio also). I'd love to see some of your work if you have examples - do you add them to your vlogs/site? I've only really made a gps data music generating / effects controller as a project to learn play in max. cheers Kath On 6/2/06, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I WANT a videocard for that slot, so I can hook up two external monitors at the same time -- or rather, two projectors so I can do cool multi-projector things with MAX-MSP / Jitter and my laptop in live performance settings. The project I'm working on right now is a four projector gig, and so we've loaded up a Quad PowerMac with videocards to give us the ability to send separate signals to four projectors and a monitor at the same time, but for smaller versions of this same kind of work... being able to use a laptop would be ideal. Any thoughts on whether or not we'll see a videocard? -- http://www.aliak.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Linux Militants (Was Re: Anyone have Linux?)
That's more than enough formats. Linux users are used to tracking down alternatives in order to get stuff to work for them. In this case, several of those formats can be played in Linux with VLC or Mplayer. -Josh On 6/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if any other videobloggers have been hassled by a Linux journalist/user named Malcolm Dean about the format of their vlogs... Although I posted a message here last month asking if Galacticast works on Linux and I got unanimous responses from the group and other friends not on the group saying it works fine, this guy is telling us we should format our stuff in ancient MPEG2 formats! The thing is; we already have 5 different formats: H.264 .mov, .wmv, standard iPod .m4v (which is an MPEG compression), 3gp and YouTube flash. And since I've been told by at least 4 different Linux users that it all works fine, this guy SEEMS to be acting like an ass about it. Has anyone else had to deal with this guy before? Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got an e-mail from a guy asking why Galacticast isn't available for all operating systems... apparently he was irate because it wasn't working on Linux. As far as I can tell, if he downloads the .wmv file onto his computer and opens it into his default player (Xine), it should work... Does anyone use Linux and wouldn't mind checking it out for me? I don't want to leave anyone out in the cold just because they choose an alternative to Windows... Thanks, Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Linux Militants (Was Re: Anyone have Linux?)
In the not too distant future I'm sure you'll see mpeg2 used for RSS-to-Tivo distribution. -Josh On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to ignore him? MPEG2 for web distribution is not the best format unless you're burning DVDS. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if any other videobloggers have been hassled by a Linux journalist/user named Malcolm Dean about the format of their vlogs... Although I posted a message here last month asking if Galacticast works on Linux and I got unanimous responses from the group and other friends not on the group saying it works fine, this guy is telling us we should format our stuff in ancient MPEG2 formats! The thing is; we already have 5 different formats: H.264 .mov, .wmv, standard iPod .m4v (which is an MPEG compression), 3gp and YouTube flash. And since I've been told by at least 4 different Linux users that it all works fine, this guy SEEMS to be acting like an ass about it. Has anyone else had to deal with this guy before? Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote: I just got an e-mail from a guy asking why Galacticast isn't available for all operating systems... apparently he was irate because it wasn't working on Linux. As far as I can tell, if he downloads the .wmv file onto his computer and opens it into his default player (Xine), it should work... Does anyone use Linux and wouldn't mind checking it out for me? I don't want to leave anyone out in the cold just because they choose an alternative to Windows... Thanks, Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit
What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast? That is stupid. What the hell is a vod? VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast, which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players. Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others. -Josh On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do people listen to this? I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair chance, but wow. TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's Digg.com got big. The whole name bashing is very weak... Blog is short for web log. Vlog is short for video blog. Seems to make the most sense to me. What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast? That is stupid. What the hell is a vod? Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped. Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is probably owned by Verizon. IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV. I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents. -Matt Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Linux Militants (Was Re: Anyone have Linux?)
Here's the specs for mpeg2 video on Tivo: http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv251080.htm -Josh On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I remember Andrew Barron posting the specs that Rocketboom is doing for TIVO distro. But mpeg2 still seems like overkill for the average videoblog. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the not too distant future I'm sure you'll see mpeg2 used for RSS-to-Tivo distribution. -Josh On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to ignore him? MPEG2 for web distribution is not the best format unless you're burning DVDS. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote: Just wondering if any other videobloggers have been hassled by a Linux journalist/user named Malcolm Dean about the format of their vlogs... Although I posted a message here last month asking if Galacticast works on Linux and I got unanimous responses from the group and other friends not on the group saying it works fine, this guy is telling us we should format our stuff in ancient MPEG2 formats! The thing is; we already have 5 different formats: H.264 .mov, .wmv, standard iPod .m4v (which is an MPEG compression), 3gp and YouTube flash. And since I've been told by at least 4 different Linux users that it all works fine, this guy SEEMS to be acting like an ass about it. Has anyone else had to deal with this guy before? Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon caseymckinnon@ wrote: I just got an e-mail from a guy asking why Galacticast isn't available for all operating systems... apparently he was irate because it wasn't working on Linux. As far as I can tell, if he downloads the .wmv file onto his computer and opens it into his default player (Xine), it should work... Does anyone use Linux and wouldn't mind checking it out for me? I don't want to leave anyone out in the cold just because they choose an alternative to Windows... Thanks, Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit
Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple branded name. That was only after people had started to complain, but the podcast train had already left the station. Adam Curry always referred to the iPod platform beginning with Daily Source Code episode #1. -Josh On 6/5/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I've always heard that the 'pod' in iPod stood for Portable On Demand. But you're right the term podcast is almost an Apple branded name. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast? That is stupid. What the hell is a vod? VOD is typical industry jargon for Video On Demand In that sense, Vodcast seems to make even more sense than Podcast, which is a name inspired by a single brand of portable media players. Yet I still prefer Videoblog above all the others. -Josh On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk bullemhead@ wrote: Why do people listen to this? I guess I'll go listen to a different episode to give them a fair chance, but wow. TechTV's Screensaver had a cult following. It is how Kevin Rose's Digg.com got big. The whole name bashing is very weak... Blog is short for web log. Vlog is short for video blog. Seems to make the most sense to me. What do the TWiTs recommend? Vodcast? That is stupid. What the hell is a vod? Video podcast? May be good for the mainstream media and newbies to grasp what it is since the word podcast is being hyped. Vidcast or Vcast? Maybe, but probably won't stick and Vcast is probably owned by Verizon. IPTV? This has nothing to do with TV. I think video blog (vlog for short) and video podcast are here to stay. I do differentiate between the two though. In my mind, vlogs tend to be more like blogs and video podcasts are the shows you can only find in iTunes. Just my 2 cents. -Matt Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters
Hey Will, This is great info! Just a couple notes... this is not part of the FireAnt desktop application, but just a small little web app I'm making. I don't have Flash Media Server (seems expensive for a small little side project like this). Re: FLV support in FireAnt, this is definitely something we wish to improve. The Mac version of FireAnt supports FLV playback, but it could be done in a much better way (we have this duration issue with FireAnt on the Mac too). On Windows, FireAnt plays Flash through the Flash OCX, but it does not yet handle FLV. This is something we plan to address soon. I've done some research here and think I have a good starting point for that problem on the C++ side. Perhaps we should also join the Adobe Developers Network. Thanks! -Josh On 6/1/06, Will Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh 1. There is no magic workaround. If the duration is missing from the metadata of an FLV, then your only options are a) inject it yourself b) use FMS to query the file length. You cannot get or even estimate the duration from the NetStream properties that are exposed, other than by playing it to completion. 2. If your app is a web app, then keep a local copy of FMS running and use it for nothing but querying the length of FLV files on your SAN. 3. If your app is a desktop app, then write your own very simple parser that would figure out the duration of a FLV file and build it into your app. Since FLV is an open format (see http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/), this should be simple and quick. In fact I know it's both since a guy at VitalStream wrote exactly this to figure out the duration of user-uploaded files (they have the same problem of missing metatdata from older encoders) and it only took him a morning to create. I doubt they would release that code, since its company specific, but if you approached your Fireant C++ guru, he may have as quick an answer. Cheers Will From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Kinberg Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:50 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Yes, exactly. It currently supports FLV videos from RSS and XSPF playlists. But the videos must be Flash 8 (or have proper FLV metadata injected) until I can figure out a work around for the issue mentioned in this thread. Unfortunately, all the docs on Adobe simply suggest to either re-encode the videos or inject the metadata... I'm having a hard time believing that there is just no other work around. Come on, Adobe! -Josh On 6/1/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your problem but I would like to know more about the project. I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 1.1574 (20060601) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters
Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? I'd like to support FLV, and that means both Flash 7 and Flash 8 (and Flash 6?? not sure if FLV was part of Flash 6). And how are you loading the FLVs? Is it with NetConnection and NetStream or the Media class? I'm using NetConnection and NetStream. Currently getting duration metadata through the NetStream.onMetaData method. Older versions of FLV simply return undefined because they don't properly have the metadata inside. Hence the need for the metadata injection. -Josh On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? And how are you loading the FLVs? Is it with NetConnection and NetStream or the Media class? -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Yes, exactly. It currently supports FLV videos from RSS and XSPF playlists. But the videos must be Flash 8 (or have proper FLV metadata injected) until I can figure out a work around for the issue mentioned in this thread. Unfortunately, all the docs on Adobe simply suggest to either re-encode the videos or inject the metadata... I'm having a hard time believing that there is just no other work around. Come on, Adobe! -Josh On 6/1/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your problem but I would like to know more about the project. I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters
Jeroen (developer of the standard flv player that most of us use) is also working on xspf and rss playlisting support. I have spoken with him a number of times but i am not sure where he is on this task or if he has started it. Yes, I'm pretty much combining Jeroen's FLV player and his MP3 player that handles RSS/XSPF playlists. -Josh On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeroen (developer of the standard flv player that most of us use) is also working on xspf and rss playlisting support. I have spoken with him a number of times but i am not sure where he is on this task or if he has started it. Not to discourage Joshua of course. Either way, more flv players with xspf/rss etc support the better. sull On 6/1/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your problem but I would like to know more about the project. I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Flash Video question for Actionscripters
I've just started working flash and flash video and love the flexibility of it. The sad thing is that ffmpeg does not transcode to On2VP6 yet. Correct, I don't think FFMpeg will be supporting On2VP6. But, you can get the On2 Flix Exporter and run that on your server. Not sure how expensive it is. I'm pretty sure that's what most of the upload-your-video-here sites are using. -Josh On 6/2/06, Lisa Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean that flash 8 is basically unproblematic with respect to duration and scrubbing? I've just started working flash and flash video and love the flexibility of it. The sad thing is that ffmpeg does not transcode to On2VP6 yet. Lisa http://www.lisaharper.org On 6/1/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters
Try downloading a video from YouTube and tell me if that works for you.
Use http://keepvid.com to get the FLV from YouTube.
-Josh
On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has
several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)?
I'd like to support FLV, and that means both Flash 7 and Flash 8 (and
Flash 6?? not sure if FLV was part of Flash 6).
And how are you
loading the FLVs? Is it with NetConnection and NetStream or the Media
class?
I'm using NetConnection and NetStream. Currently getting duration
metadata through the NetStream.onMetaData method. Older versions of
FLV simply return undefined because they don't properly have the
metadata inside. Hence the need for the metadata injection.
-Josh
I'm using the MediaDisplay control with the associated Media class.
Although the documentation says the total duration is only available
when the FLV completely loads, I'm abile to get it at the start of the
FLV load in the Media.progress event. This seems to work on Flash 7.2
and 8, though I haven't thoroughly tested it.
Here's a sample of the progress event:
flvListener.progress = function(){
...
if (nPercentLoaded .01 nTotalTime = 0) {
nTotalTime = [MediaDisplay instance name].totalTime;
}
...
}
Let me know if this works.
-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.cinegage.com
On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has
several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? And how are you
loading the FLVs? Is it with NetConnection and NetStream or the Media
class?
-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.cinegage.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@
wrote:
I've been looking for a Flash player that
will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any
chance
that this project will have this functionality?
Yes, exactly. It currently supports FLV videos from RSS and XSPF
playlists. But the videos must be Flash 8 (or have proper FLV
metadata
injected) until I can figure out a work around for the issue
mentioned
in this thread. Unfortunately, all the docs on Adobe simply
suggest to
either re-encode the videos or inject the metadata...
I'm having a hard time believing that there is just no other work
around. Come on, Adobe!
-Josh
On 6/1/06, Bill Streeter bill@ wrote:
Josh,
I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your problem but I would
like to
know more about the project. I've been looking for a Flash
player that
will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any
chance
that this project will have this functionality?
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@
wrote:
This is a question for the Flash developers out there...
I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays
Flash
Video files (FLV) from a playlist.
I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8
where
the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time
progress
bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must
be a
trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its
obvious
that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice
from the
Actionscripters out there?
Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom):
http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression
and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html
This documented bug is quite common since most video upload
sites
automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec).
I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV
metadata:
http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/
This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with
Flash
Video 6/7.
-Josh
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Re: [videoblogging] Wired: Yahoo Video Mimics YouTube
rss is definitely preferable to those who use it. unfortunately, the number of people using it is still quite low. i don't know if the majority of people watching online videos are concerned enough about it for rss formats to have an impact. i have three teenaged kids who are well aware of rss but opt for youtube instead. i have no idea why. I don't necessarily think RSS is preferrable -- its just different. With YouTube and other video portal sites you can browse around easier. But, you don't get the same ability to syndicate. So for creators it will eventually be limiting until YouTube and the other sites begin to think beyond the web. RSS will be built into your Tivo, iPod, cell phone, etc... many sites and services today already support it and its only a matter of time before it becomes pretty much de facto. I guess what I'm trying to say is that RSS is not only about end users viewing stuff in a News Reader application even though that is how many of us experience it today. RSS is also used as connective tissue behind the scenes of many current and future web services. -Josh On 5/31/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that the size of the viewership will be a big determinating factor in choosing one of these embedded player hosting sites to host video on...and i think that the size of the viewership is largely determined by the type of content permitted at the site. i think that youtube is big because most of their viewership is there for porn/dancing girl and funny videos (bootlegged content or otherwise). people who want their videos viewed in the largest arena will choose a site like youtube to host it. if yahoo has a policy that is as open as youtube, they will be able to compete. otherwise, they will never get the numbers that youtube generates. somehow, i'm not so sure that yahoo will be as open though. they have had run-ins in the past with chat. i know that yahoo chat lost huge numbers when they clamped down on chat rooms and closed user rooms. i'm sure there will be some that will prefer to be hosted by other sites but, unless yahoo opens up in terms of content, i dont' see a mass exodus. mind you, i saw that they are also going to be a directory for off-site content. if they don't censor that content, it might help boost the number of viewers. hard to say what impact that would have on those looking for hosting services. as for spam...is it spam to put your vids up on all hosting services or is it spreading your content around? not sure about the use of the word spam in this context... rss is definitely preferable to those who use it. unfortunately, the number of people using it is still quite low. i don't know if the majority of people watching online videos are concerned enough about it for rss formats to have an impact. i have three teenaged kids who are well aware of rss but opt for youtube instead. i have no idea why. On 5/31/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe spam vloggers will emerge and start posting the same video to all of the free services to gain maximum exposure? I think this already exists. Not sure if all of it is spam (some of it is), but I know people try to seed videos in many of these clip sharing communities. Ultimately, it will be your RSS feed that should syndicate your videos into all these various services or personalized aggregators, etc... or so i'd like to think. -Josh On 5/31/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An article was just posted on Wired.com about Yahoo Video and how they are going to start hosting user videos (aka mimic YouTube). http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,71043-0.html What will drive the average user to post their video to one service over the other? I assume each will have very similar feature sets. If a user ultimately wants to embed the video somewhere else, will it even matter where they host? Maybe spam vloggers will emerge and start posting the same video to all of the free services to gain maximum exposure? -- Matt http://www.vlogmap.org http://feeds.feedburner.com/vlogmap Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Re: [videoblogging] Fw: RE: (ISF) Yahoo's video streaming service
I never really understand this... a lot of people think they *need* a separate hosting solution for their videos. But for organizations that already pay for a web server, this is generally not the case. There's no reason they can't host videos themselves on their own servers that they already pay for. Blip and YouTube are nice in that they make it easy for people who don't have a server... typically people who use Blogger, MySpace, or a very limited shared server situation. Perhaps you are correct, Nathan -- there is confusion over the word streaming and the perceived need for a streaming server when it comes to video. For some reason people don't have this streaming mental image when it comes to audio. MP3s entered the public conciousness with Napster -- they are meant to be downloaded. This has been reinforced with iTunes/iPod. Now, streaming audio usually refers to something more like an internet radio station or live broadcast. Blip and YouTube are not streaming services. They are hosting services that offer easy uploads and progressive downloads (not technically streaming). -Josh On 6/1/06, nathan.freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting cross post from another Yahoo group I'm on for non-profit tech. This message discusses Yahoo vs. YouTube vs. Blip. Note the use of the word streaming, a word that often comes up when I talk about videoblogging with people outside of this sphere. Much of the worlds entire perspective and expectation of video is still based on a web 1.0, big iron streaming model (aka Real, microsoft Asf/asx, etc) They don't know anything else - they think if you can download a video file you are somehow stealing it. +nathan -Original Message- From: Aldon Hynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (ISF) Yahoo's video streaming service Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:26:35 -0400 I've been playing a lot with various video streaming systems recently and have a bunch of different thoughts. First, I should acknowledge that I haven't played with Yahoo's service, so I can't comment on whether or not it is really worth it. Most of the stuff I've seen recently has been focused on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com They provide free hosting provided you given them certain rights to the videos. For the political campaign I'm working on, http://www.nedlamont.com , volunteers have been making videos, posting them on YouTube and then embedding them in blogs. For a good example, check out http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1420 For most people it streams nicely within the context of the organization's website (or blog as in the example above). There are problems with it stopping and starting when people view it from a slow connection. Meanwhile, other people have been highly recommending http://blip.tv I tested them a little quite a while ago, and had mixed feelings. However, they've made major improvements since then and should be seriously looked at. I've written a bit about other video sharing services in my own blog, check the video section http://www.orient-lodge.com/taxonomy/page/or/14 There are three entries specifically about sharing videos as well as several others that touch on the topic. They mention services like ClipShack, vSocial, Castpost as well as a link to a great article sometime back on TechCrunch. I hope this helps. As an aside, I am organizing a citizen filmmaking workshop and festival at the Media Giraffe Summit at UMass Amherst on June 29th. Check out http://www.mediagiraffe.org/filmmaking/ If you can make it please do. If you have ideas for good panelists or good videos to display, please let me know. Aldon -Original Message- Date: Wed May 31, 2006 2:16 pm (PDT) From: Deborah Elizabeth Finn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yahoo's video streaming service Dear Colleagues, First of all, greetings from the NetSquared conference www.netsquared.org! Secondly, I'm interested in hearing from folks who have used Yahoo to host streaming video for their web sites. One of my esteemed clients is thinking of doing this with Dreamweaver-based site. Some of their concerns are: 1) Will web surfers be move smoothly from the nonprofit organization's web site to the Yahoo-hosted video, and then back to the organization's web site, without losing their look / feel / branding? 2) Are Yahoo's video streaming services a good value for the money? 3) Do users of Yahoo's video streaming experience much in the way of delays or downtime as they move between the web site and the video streaming? 4) What other services are comparable? = The Information Systems Forum is an opt-in, low-traffic, flame-free distribution list for discussions of information technology for nonprofit organizations. To post a message, prepare a regular email and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To join the Information Systems Forum,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wired: Yahoo Video Mimics YouTube
That's interesting. I guess its best to upload uncompressed, or compress as little as possible if you're going to upload to a service that converts and re-compresses the videos. -Josh On 6/1/06, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, i just posted a vid to YouTube, and i can't believe the drop in quality! I made an .mp4 using H264 in Quicktime 7.1, 320x240, 550kbps vid and 80 audio... its a short video, so its only 5.7mb Whatever codec they convert it to (?) looks awful and washed out... certainly larger than 320x240... So there must be a way to get better quality on YouTube... by uploading a movie saved in a certain codec or size to begin with? (so the double compression doesn't totally destroy your data)... They have a limit of 100mb per video, so hmmm Anybody have any ideas? And what about Yahoo's upload specs / codecs? thanks all! Greg Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Flash Video question for Actionscripters
This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters
I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Yes, exactly. It currently supports FLV videos from RSS and XSPF playlists. But the videos must be Flash 8 (or have proper FLV metadata injected) until I can figure out a work around for the issue mentioned in this thread. Unfortunately, all the docs on Adobe simply suggest to either re-encode the videos or inject the metadata... I'm having a hard time believing that there is just no other work around. Come on, Adobe! -Josh On 6/1/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your problem but I would like to know more about the project. I've been looking for a Flash player that will load FLV files from a RSS feed and play through them. Any chance that this project will have this functionality? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for the Flash developers out there... I'm creating a little side-project Flash application that plays Flash Video files (FLV) from a playlist. I've run into a documented bug in FLV versions prior to Flash 8 where the duration metadata is incorrect. This screws up the time progress bar and seeking functionality of my video controller. There must be a trick to get the duration for older versions of FLV since its obvious that other Flash video controllers can do this. Any advice from the Actionscripters out there? Here's some documentation of the bug (scroll to the bottom): http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression and here: http://www.sti-media.com/blog/archives/000111.html This documented bug is quite common since most video upload sites automatically compress with Sorensen (Flash Video 6/7 codec). I've used a tool called FLV Metadata Injector to correct the FLV metadata: http://www.buraks.com/flvmdi/ This does work, but I'd rather be backwards compatible with Flash Video 6/7. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Idea: New microformat: rel=media:thumbnail
From: http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure - By adding rel=enclosure to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is intended to be downloaded and cached. That doesn't reflect what me and others discussed on the Microformats mailing list. I'd give you links to the e-mails in the archive... but I'm too tired right now :-) (And yeah, I know, I saw you over there too. Particularly regarding the rel-payment thing for Atom.) I don't think there's been much dissenting opinion over what an enclosure is on the Microformats list. I've been following there for a little over a year and have been pushing for a media microformat. The above was simply copied from their wiki. Like I mentioned before (and as you mention later), a MIME type is NOT always sufficient to tell if something is a video or not. This is because not all videos have a MIME type of the form video/*. Unfortunately, this is true that there are some fringe cases where Mime type is not sufficient to determine the type of media (video, audio, etc.). Actually, Media RSS has an optional attribute called medium to deal with this problem: From: http://video.yahoo.com/mrss medium is the type of object (image | audio | video | document | executable). While this attribute can at times seem redundant if type is supplied, it is included because it simplifies decision making on the reader side, as well as flushes out any ambiguities between MIME type and object type. It is an optional attribute. One example is Ogg (application/ogg). Although container formats in general will have this problem. (Some container formats have video/* forms though.) I think Ogg may be the *only* container format that does this (ok, maybe Smil, but that's not a binary format). Quicktime, ASF, Matroska, 3GP, MP4, AVI, etc. will all be video/* types. The Ogg folks should probably rectify that by allowing audio/ogg and video/ogg Also, systems that shunt themselves via the web will also have this problem. For example, consider this BitTorrent link... BitTorrent unfortunately is mystery meat. But, the mimetype is correct -- a BitTorrent file is a BitTorrent file. Now what's inside is anyone's guess... could be video, audio, or a collection of files and folders of different types. No single mime type would justify what might be *inside* a Torrent. http://example.com/show.torrent#video.mpeg Note that I'm using a URI fragment to access what's inside the torrent. Would that URI resolve to anything? If not then I would think it doesn't make sense. I've never seen that convention used anywhere. I would stick with established Microformat class attributes rather than create new ones and thus more deviation and noise. Which Microformat class attributes would you suggest? relEnclosure is already pretty well established. I've found that VLC is actually pretty common. (At least in BC, Canada. Everyone seems to use it here. Things may be different globally though.) VLC browser plugin is not common at all. It is separate from the VLC desktop application as far as I know. But I think the whole topic of videos having MIME types NOT of the form video/* is an important one to deal with. (Shunting things via new protocols seems to be out of favor due to the nature of the underlying operating systems. Instead, shunting seems to be done via MIME types now. And this will lead to new non- video/* video MIME types.) I don't understand what you mean by shunting? My motivation for class-video is to learn from SMIL. SMIL has a video element. Thus class-video copies that. (This is the Microformat process. Either observe what being done in the wild with HTML and create a semantic HTML specification -- a Microformat -- for it. Or mimic XML paradigms out there. In this case I'm mimicking the XML paradign of SMIL.) That's not exactly the Microformat process - its defined pretty well on their wiki: http://microformats.org/wiki/process Probably best to start there and then propose it on their mailing list after doing more research and documentation. -Josh See ya -Josh On 5/30/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joshua, On 5/30/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that for most vloggers, they won't bother adding semantic HTML (like rel-enclosure, class-video, or anything) unless they get something else out of it. (Or unless it comes out of some tool.) Absolutely! Its very important to show that you can *do* stuff with semantics. That's why we support the image thumbnail format on FireAnt.tv the way that Andreas described it with the hopes of encouraging people to post images of their videos... However, its still early days, and I think the tools for supporting such standards are still very new. Witness the recent issues with Technorati tags during Videoblogging Week. Even though its a standard
Re: [videoblogging] Idea: New microformat: rel=media:thumbnail
Yeah, I know. In regards to thumbnails you can say 'if you want your thumbnail on fireant you will have to use the image as a link to the video'. Then people who wants thumbnails will have to make image links, and you will hopefully get a slow adoption. Yep, that's exactly what we've done. This is explained in our FAQ. We also get some thumbnails from MeFeedia through their API, but that is often less successful than parsing the HTML for images. If you guys ever want to share any research I'm sure it would be of huge value to the microformats community. The main thing I've learned is that there is literally a cacophony of markup styles, formats, and standards such that its very difficult to really nail things down in practice, even when it comes to relatively vanilla HTML or RSS. The shoddy XML support in iTunes has definitely not helped matters when it comes to RSS standardization. Also, there's are a number of methods people use to try to track downloads with redirect scripts which can botch things up in innumerable ways. You're right though, once we get things settled in a little further we should run some reports and create some sort of state of the vlogosphere. -Josh On 5/31/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2006 02:16:53 +0200, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is rel=enclosure - if that link points to a video resource then you can safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail. e.g. a href="" rel=enclosureimg src=""> //a I only wish people were so consistent and reliable. Truth is that there is vast inconsistency in the wild. Many people use text links to point to videos, sometimes they use special play button icons to link to videos (not exactly a thumbnail). Sometimes people link to an HTML page with the media embedded and somtimes they just embed the media and do not use an image to link to it. In practice relEnclosure is rarely, if ever used. Yeah, I know. In regards to thumbnails you can say 'if you want your thumbnail on fireant you will have to use the image as a link to the video'. Then people who wants thumbnails will have to make image links, and you will hopefully get a slow adoption. We run into all sorts of problems like this trying to parse HTML descriptions when we aggregate feeds on FireAnt.tv. If you guys ever want to share any research I'm sure it would be of huge value to the microformats community. I don't think adding additional semantic HTML attributes would help much either. Often the bloggers who post with strange HTML conventions aren't the type of people who know much about HTML. I certainly wouldn't expect them to grok a Microformat like rel=media:thumbnail ... but then perhaps broad acceptance is not really the goal of this proposal anyway. +1 -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Recording audio itnerviews
My friend who does audio field recording sent me this link: http://www.vermontfolklifecenter.org/res_audioequip.htm Contains great comparison of different types of audio recorders and microphones. Might be more high end than you're looking for, but a great resource nonetheless. -Josh On 5/31/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is perhaps slightly off-topic, but I don't know who else to turn to. I'm going to vloggercon and I plan on recording interviews. For various practical reasons they'll be audio only, so I need to figure out how to record those. Problem is: I don't know anything. I imagine that I need to buy an mp3-player/recorder and a microphone, but I could really use some advice on what to get. Will any mp3-player with a line-in work fine and can you recommend a specific model? What kind of mic should I get if I want the voice(s) of my victims come through, but no the ambient noise of rowdy videobloggers? And can you recommend a model? I *am* on a budget, the university sadly won't pay for this (sucks!) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Publishing Videos with a Wordpress Plugin
There are a few Wrodpress plugins for podcasting and video... a few have been developed by people here on this list. Off the top of my head, here's a few WP plugins for video: http://www.mightyseek.com/podpress/ http://roel.meurders.nl/wordpress-plugins/wp-flv-video-player-plugin/ http://www.rossgerbasi.com/2006/01/21/extreme-video-plugin-20/ http://loadedpun.com/2006/03/31/embedthevideo-wordpress-plugin.html http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ -Josh On 5/31/06, cooperwef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is Tiffiniy from PCF; we have been developing the Democracy Internet TV platform. Things have been going well in the internet TV world, but we think simple blogging tools with video are still scarce. We've been trying to figure out a simple way to let people make video RSS feeds and channels using their blogging software and we wanted to know what people were actually interested in when making sharable video channels. We have been thinking that the simplest way to do something like this is to make a Wordpress plugin for publishing videos to a video RSS feed. Is this the right thinking on this? Basically, people could install the plugin and whenever a video link is added, either as an enclosure or a direct link, the plugin will scrape the enclosure or link and add it to a feed with associated metadata, description, and thumbnail. Publishers can then go in and add information about their video channel -- like a description, channel thumbnail, etc. (Wordpress already does something like this, but doesn't give you a separate video channel). Is this something that would be useful to you? Is there a way we could do this better? We really want to make something that is useful to people and their blogging needs, so any comments would be extremely informative. If you've got ideas of your own, please share them. If you would like to read about the specific features for the plugin, you can go here: https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/WordpressPlugin The page above is a wiki, so please feel free to add comments directly to the wiki and it would be great to have a conversation via email also. Hope to hear from any and all of you. -- Tiffiniy [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.getdemocracy.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Publishing Videos with a Wordpress Plugin
From the wiki, it looks like the only thing I would add would be the option of making different feeds for different formats, as mentioned above. Lots of people need that, and with no absolute web video codec being decided upon in the near future, I think it's a useful addition. +1 on that! This is one of the things I really don't like about WP. Its not as easy as MovableType when it comes to generating separate feeds (yeah, i know it does feeds for categories out of the box, but its hard to have a separate feeds for specific file types as Adam mentions). Also, it would be nice if there were an easy way to generate MRSS compliant feeds that include multiple file formats in the same feed using media:group. -Josh On 5/31/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiffiniy, It would be great to have something like this so your average Wordpress user doesn't have to hack on their templates so much. For example, to make 2 different feeds, one for QT and one for WMV, I had to install this get_custom plugin (http://www.coffee2code.com/wp-plugins/#getcustom) and use it in each feed to get the enclosure values quicktime and windows from a custom field in the post. It shouldn't be that hard. A big round WP Video plugin would be very welcome I think. You could even integrate some of the features of the plugins Josh mentioned earlier. From the wiki, it looks like the only thing I would add would be the option of making different feeds for different formats, as mentioned above. Lots of people need that, and with no absolute web video codec being decided upon in the near future, I think it's a useful addition. Good stuff, good work, thanks for taking this on. -- Adam Quirk thepan.org On 5/31/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a few Wrodpress plugins for podcasting and video... a few have been developed by people here on this list. Off the top of my head, here's a few WP plugins for video: http://www.mightyseek.com/podpress/ http://roel.meurders.nl/wordpress-plugins/wp-flv-video-player-plugin/ http://www.rossgerbasi.com/2006/01/21/extreme-video-plugin-20/ http://loadedpun.com/2006/03/31/embedthevideo-wordpress-plugin.html http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ -Josh On 5/31/06, cooperwef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is Tiffiniy from PCF; we have been developing the Democracy Internet TV platform. Things have been going well in the internet TV world, but we think simple blogging tools with video are still scarce. We've been trying to figure out a simple way to let people make video RSS feeds and channels using their blogging software and we wanted to know what people were actually interested in when making sharable video channels. We have been thinking that the simplest way to do something like this is to make a Wordpress plugin for publishing videos to a video RSS feed. Is this the right thinking on this? Basically, people could install the plugin and whenever a video link is added, either as an enclosure or a direct link, the plugin will scrape the enclosure or link and add it to a feed with associated metadata, description, and thumbnail. Publishers can then go in and add information about their video channel -- like a description, channel thumbnail, etc. (Wordpress already does something like this, but doesn't give you a separate video channel). Is this something that would be useful to you? Is there a way we could do this better? We really want to make something that is useful to people and their blogging needs, so any comments would be extremely informative. If you've got ideas of your own, please share them. If you would like to read about the specific features for the plugin, you can go here: https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/WordpressPlugin The page above is a wiki, so please feel free to add comments directly to the wiki and it would be great to have a conversation via email also. Hope to hear from any and all of you. -- Tiffiniy [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.getdemocracy.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
Re: [videoblogging] Wired: Yahoo Video Mimics YouTube
Maybe spam vloggers will emerge and start posting the same video to all of the free services to gain maximum exposure? I think this already exists. Not sure if all of it is spam (some of it is), but I know people try to seed videos in many of these clip sharing communities. Ultimately, it will be your RSS feed that should syndicate your videos into all these various services or personalized aggregators, etc... or so i'd like to think. -Josh On 5/31/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An article was just posted on Wired.com about Yahoo Video and how they are going to start hosting user videos (aka mimic YouTube). http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,71043-0.html What will drive the average user to post their video to one service over the other? I assume each will have very similar feature sets. If a user ultimately wants to embed the video somewhere else, will it even matter where they host? Maybe spam vloggers will emerge and start posting the same video to all of the free services to gain maximum exposure? -- Matt http://www.vlogmap.org http://feeds.feedburner.com/vlogmap Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Idea: New microformat: rel=media:thumbnail
It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is rel=enclosure - if that link points to a video resource then you can safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail. e.g. a href="" rel=enclosureimg src="" //a I only wish people were so consistent and reliable. Truth is that there is vast inconsistency in the wild. Many people use text links to point to videos, sometimes they use special play button icons to link to videos (not exactly a thumbnail). Sometimes people link to an HTML page with the media embedded and somtimes they just embed the media and do not use an image to link to it. In practice relEnclosure is rarely, if ever used. We run into all sorts of problems like this trying to parse HTML descriptions when we aggregate feeds on FireAnt.tv. I don't think adding additional semantic HTML attributes would help much either. Often the bloggers who post with strange HTML conventions aren't the type of people who know much about HTML. I certainly wouldn't expect them to grok a Microformat like rel=media:thumbnail ... but then perhaps broad acceptance is not really the goal of this proposal anyway. -Josh On 5/30/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is rel=enclosure - if that link points to a video resource then you can safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail. e.g. a href="" rel=enclosureimg src="" //a - Andreas On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:31:24 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an idea just hit me out of the blue ... it may be stupid, or it may be already done, but I figured this group could let me know on either ... You know how we have rel=enclosure for links in a post that should be enclosed in a feed ... how about a new micro-format for rel=media:thumbnail rel=media:thumbnail could be added to an image in a post so that this image could be included as the still image for the MRSS extension. services like blip which cross post to your blog could include the rel=media:thumbnail automatically and feedburner could then insert that image into your MRSS info (feedburner already inserts some MRSS in there). I've got a few cool ideas in the back of my head on ways to consume a feed, but a few of them would work far better if I KNEW what image the blogger wanted to use to represent thier video/audio file. This sort of solution would allow for a much broader adoption of the media:thumbnail element in RSS. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Idea: New microformat: rel=media:thumbnail
I think that for most vloggers, they won't bother adding semantic HTML (like rel-enclosure, class-video, or anything) unless they get something else out of it. (Or unless it comes out of some tool.) Absolutely! Its very important to show that you can *do* stuff with semantics. That's why we support the image thumbnail format on FireAnt.tv the way that Andreas described it with the hopes of encouraging people to post images of their videos... However, its still early days, and I think the tools for supporting such standards are still very new. Witness the recent issues with Technorati tags during Videoblogging Week. Even though its a standard there still seems to be much chaos and non-interoperability. That's not to say that these things won't grow into something more tangible in the future... I certainly hope so, that's why I'm doing these things. I've been working on a _javascript_ thing that creates a little DHTML player if you use class-video. For example... a class=video href="" type=application/ogg.../a Why not go with the existing Microformat, rel=enclosure ? -Josh On 5/30/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joshua, I think that for most vloggers, they won't bother adding semantic HTML (like rel-enclosure, class-video, or anything) unless they get something else out of it. (Or unless it comes out of some tool.) I've been working on a _javascript_ thing that creates a little DHTML player if you use class-video. For example... a class=video href="" type=application/ogg.../a So, people who would use my _javascript_ thing would be incentivized to add a class-video so that the DHTML player works. (That of course would have the added advantage of letting other software understand what is and isn't a video.) But that assumes the vlogger has the skills to do the HTML coding (to add the semantic HTML and bring in the _javascript_ thing). Alternatively, the tools vloggers use to create posts could automagically produce the appropriate semantic HTML. See ya On 5/30/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is rel=enclosure - if that link points to a video resource then you can safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail. e.g. a href="" rel=enclosureimg src="" //a I only wish people were so consistent and reliable. Truth is that there is vast inconsistency in the wild. Many people use text links to point to videos, sometimes they use special play button icons to link to videos (not exactly a thumbnail). Sometimes people link to an HTML page with the media embedded and somtimes they just embed the media and do not use an image to link to it. In practice relEnclosure is rarely, if ever used. We run into all sorts of problems like this trying to parse HTML descriptions when we aggregate feeds on FireAnt.tv. I don't think adding additional semantic HTML attributes would help much either. Often the bloggers who post with strange HTML conventions aren't the type of people who know much about HTML. I certainly wouldn't expect them to grok a Microformat like rel=media:thumbnail ... but then perhaps broad acceptance is not really the goal of this proposal anyway. -Josh On 5/30/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is unnecessary. I have never met a blogger who have put up a thumbnail and then not used it as a link to the video. All you need is rel=enclosure - if that link points to a video resource then you can safely assume that the first image contained in the link is the thumbnail. e.g. a href="" rel=enclosureimg src="" //a - Andreas On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:31:24 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an idea just hit me out of the blue ... it may be stupid, or it may be already done, but I figured this group could let me know on either ... You know how we have rel=enclosure for links in a post that should be enclosed in a feed ... how about a new micro-format for rel=media:thumbnail rel=media:thumbnail could be added to an image in a post so that this image could be included as the still image for the MRSS extension. services like blip which cross post to your blog could include the rel=media:thumbnail automatically and feedburner could then insert that image into your MRSS info (feedburner already inserts some MRSS in there). I've got a few cool ideas in the back of my head on ways to consume a feed, but a few of them would work far better if I KNEW what image the blogger wanted to use to represent thier video/audio file. This sort of solution would allow for a much broader adoption of the media:thumbnail element in RSS.
Re: [videoblogging] Idea: New microformat: rel=media:thumbnail
From: http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure - By adding rel=enclosure to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is intended to be downloaded and cached. E.g. with the following hyperlink: a href="" href="http://homepage.mac.com/kevinmarks/wwdc2005.mov">http://homepage.mac.com/kevinmarks/wwdc2005.mov rel=enclosureWWDC 2005 Keynote with chapters/a the author indicates that the movie should be downloaded. - Doesn't matter whether the link points to a video or a PDF (should it?). The type can be specified with the type attribute, or using correct Mime-types on the server (preferred). I would stick with established Microformat class attributes rather than create new ones and thus more deviation and noise. Seems like application/ogg is quite a fringe case (not even sure if its generally playable in the browser, unless you are playing it with a VLC browser plugin... which is also pretty rare). You could probably modify your _javascript_ to filter based on accepted list of type attributes including video/* and application/ogg and perhaps a handful of other embeddable video formats that use application/*... not sure what those might be? -Josh On 5/30/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joshua, On 5/30/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that for most vloggers, they won't bother adding semantic HTML (like rel-enclosure, class-video, or anything) unless they get something else out of it. (Or unless it comes out of some tool.) Absolutely! Its very important to show that you can *do* stuff with semantics. That's why we support the image thumbnail format on FireAnt.tv the way that Andreas described it with the hopes of encouraging people to post images of their videos... However, its still early days, and I think the tools for supporting such standards are still very new. Witness the recent issues with Technorati tags during Videoblogging Week. Even though its a standard there still seems to be much chaos and non-interoperability. That's not to say that these things won't grow into something more tangible in the future... I certainly hope so, that's why I'm doing these things. I've been working on a _javascript_ thing that creates a little DHTML player if you use class-video. For example... a class=video href="" type=application/ogg.../a Why not go with the existing Microformat, rel=enclosure ? As far as I can tell, rel-enclosure conveys a totally different meaning than class-video. rel-enclosure essentially says the thing, at the end of this link, is attached to this document (that the rel-enclosure is contained within). It does NOT say play it. It does NOT say it is a video. And it does NOT even say prefetch it. Consider this example... a rel=enclosure href="" .../a There's a rel-enclosure there, but this is a PDF. Certainly we would NOT want to try to play this as a video. You might say, but I know this is a PDF,... of course I'm not going to try and play it as a video. But, Now, what if we didn't put an extension on our file, and instead we had... a rel=enclosure href=""> What would we do then? It is still a PDF, but we can't immediately tell. So, we might try using the a's type attribute, and have something like this... a rel=enclosure href="" type=application/pdf.../a But is the type attribute enough. If we had something like any of these, then I'd say yes... a rel=enclosure href="" type=video/mpeg.../a a rel=enclosure href="" type=video/3gpp.../a a rel=enclosure href="" type=video/jpeg.../a But this depends on have all videos have a MIME type of form video/*. But this is NOT always the case. Some videos do NOT have a MIME type of the form video/*. For example... a rel=enclosure href="" type=application/ogg.../a application/ogg is the MIME type for Ogg. Ogg, like QuickTime, Matroska, 3GPP, and ASF is container formats. And you can put all sorts of things in them. (And not just necessarily video.) Like text, audio, images, and video too. But a particular file does NOT have to have any video at all. Now, you could claim that videos that don't have a MIME type of the form video/* are messed up and have done something wrong. However, this is a reality that we have to live with it. And eventually, you come back to the question of,... how do you show a link in an HTML file points to a video. (And given you don't see anything wrong with my reasoning and logic) we need something like class-video to show it. So I suggest class-video. See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fire
Re: [videoblogging] 3D animator [WAS Re: Elephants Dream film is an open source success story]
Hey OJ, Cool stuff. Are you using Second Life for these animations? Also, while I'm sure there are more places on the web to find cool 3D models, I recently discovered this new offering from Google -- still pretty empty though: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ -Josh On 5/29/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey OJ, We're starting to use 3D on our new show (Galacticast.com), although due to online accessability and time restraints we've been using a lot of pre-made models. Casey --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ojjolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a 3d animator. Don't use blender though. I was wondering if there were any other 3d animators on the list. Would love to discuss the topic of 3d animation vs. timely vlogging. Topic may be more suited for off list. OJ The Silicon Soul Show http://somestrange.com/siliconsoulshow/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: That's really cool that this animation was created using Blender. I first heard about BLender when it went open source in 2002, but then didn't really track its progress. Looks like its come a very long way. http://www.blender.org/ Are there any 3D animators on this list? I've always wondered when we'd start seeing more 3D animation shorts distributed via videoblogs/RSS... I know there are a few Flash animation RSS feeds out there now. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Large vlog posts
You may also want to consider using BitTorrent if you are regularly publishing large files. If you decide to do this, I'd consider using Prodigem.com to host and serve the Torrents, or perhaps BitTorrent.com since they just launched a publishing/hosting service too. -Josh On 5/29/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's a short documentary that has to fit three purposes, and one actually is for TV. So, in its natural state, it's a little under 15 minutes long. Thanks for the data rate advice. -- Rhett. Rhett- Follow Michael Verdi's advice... I used the Freevlog tutorials to compress Kitkast (kitkast.com) and I often had shows between 13-15 minutes. If you follow Freevlog's tutorials, you'll probably get it down to about 60 MB. Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Elephants Dream film is an open source success story
That's really cool that this animation was created using Blender. I first heard about BLender when it went open source in 2002, but then didn't really track its progress. Looks like its come a very long way. http://www.blender.org/ Are there any 3D animators on this list? I've always wondered when we'd start seeing more 3D animation shorts distributed via videoblogs/RSS... I know there are a few Flash animation RSS feeds out there now. -Josh On 5/27/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote Elephants Dream is a new 11-minute animated short film produced by the Orange Blender Project. Described as the first open movie, Elephants Dream was modeled, animated, rendered, and composited using open source software, and all of the original content and data files have been released under a Creative Commons license. The film premiered last month, and is now available on DVD. /quote Article on NewsForge... http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/25/1513215 Download/watch film... http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -Matt -- http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblog as documentation
An RSS feed with enclosures would help propagate the media further... just sayin'... -Josh On 5/26/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since I taught people at my community TV station how to videolbogthey are now unstoppable. check out this recent videoblog: http://m24nyc.blogspot.com/ they made it just to document this one day in NYC when they protested at the Verizon building. I like this becauseit leaves a trail. people come together and then dispersebut the videoblog remembers them. all this will build up. a people's history. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Cell: 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Voxmedia wiki: Flash video
yes, but On2 VP3 (theora) and VP6 (Flash 8) are vastly different.-JoshOn 5/23/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I didn't know that On2 made the video codec for Flash 8 On2 is also the ones who originally developed the codec for Ogg Theora.See ya On 5/23/06, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macromedia Flash Player Penetration as of April, 2006 is 97.7%: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/penetration.html or http://tinyurl.com/qh7lf -- EnricWhoa!Adobe has been hyping the penetration of what they call Flashwith some very misleading figures.First, there are several generations ofFlash. The current release is Flash 8. Please go this site and seefor yourself: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetrat\ ion.htmlThe 98 per cent -- or thereabouts -- penetration is forearlierversions.Flash 8 has much better quality for streaming than theearlier versions and, in my opinion, is well worth looking into for vlogging.But.And it is a big butt.You need a Flash 8 Player to look at Flash8 video.It is a plugin for the browser, but there have been many,many, problems with the upgrade for IE on Windows for people who are not computer literate.Adobe has been dreadful about promoting the playersfor the general public. I have been dealing with this issue sinceJanuary, 2006.People who have just gotten used to email and Google searching are terrified to update because the process is-- to them -- very daunting.You know, people over 30...While many of the visitors to vlogging sites are comfortable with theupdate process, I have found that the great unwashed of the generalpublic gets frustrated with the upgrade process. While it is true that adoption rates for Flash 8 are climbing, none ofthe major aggregators such as Youtube, Google Video, etc. are streamingFlash 8.If you want to see what computer chaos would be like, imagine what would happen if they converted.On2 Technologies, the outfit that licenses the Flash 8 compression codeto Adobe and others helped me with the player problem by putting up asite that will do an express install (no need for user intervention) for all platforms.You are welcome to use it and link to it:http://on2.com/flashtestNow Adobe is making noise about a Flash 9 player coming out very soon. Does that mean that Flash 8 will be replaced?It only came out in September of 2005.If you want to see a comparison of the two versions and an explanationof the player issues (with an updater),you can see how I dealt with it on http://hestakaup.typepad.com/hestablog/2006/02/flash_test.htmlThere are quite a few clips of Flash 8.Stan Hirson http://hestablog.com http://hestakaup.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, I thought Flash only had about 90% saturation (not 98%).See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] mac rss feeds?
Can't you just change the itpc:// protocol into http:// ? I think ITPC stands for iTunes Podcast -josh On 5/20/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm getting emails from people asking how to turn this (from http://averagesoul.net) itpc://rss.mac.com/averagesoul/iWeb/AverageSoul/Podcast/rss.xml into a real RSS feed. It's the default feed generated by mac accounts, it seems, but it seems locked-in into iTunes? Is there an easy way to turn those into an RSS feed? tnx! Peter Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] does FireAnt support image enclosures?
Hey Michael, Are you talking about FireAnt on Mac or Windows? Windows version will let you download non-media files, but it will warn you first. Mac version will skip them. Images won't playback in FireAnt though. We had this in very early on, but it seemed to confuse people. Dunno, maybe we should add it back in? Not sure about that... also, when in the 'view content' tab, is their a reason why i cannot navigate or leave comments from that internal web browser? it pops up every link and this usually breaks comment forms. i notice that the FA directory works fine. just wondering if this needs to be like this or if its a bug. Ah, ok you're talking about the Windows version here. You can press the comment button (looks like a speech bubble) to launch the URL in your browser. The View Content tab renders the web page but has a lot of functionality disabled. Its there because many RSS feeds only contain snippets of the content. You can disable HTML view there in Tools-Options and only show the RSS content there. In fact, we've debated changing or removing the View Content tab in future versions. (sorry, i am removed from FA lists due to spam) Really? I don't get any spam from that group. Maybe it all gets caught in my spam filter and I don't notice it? The group is open only to moderator approval anyway, so if there's spam there we usually manage it pretty quickly -- the same as this videoblogging group. -josh http://FireAnt.tv On 5/19/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA, i cannot seem to get image enclosures to work and FA wants to try and play them like a video. should they work? also, when in the 'view content' tab, is their a reason why i cannot navigate or leave comments from that internal web browser? it pops up every link and this usually breaks comment forms. i notice that the FA directory works fine. just wondering if this needs to be like this or if its a bug. thanks. sull (sorry, i am removed from FA lists due to spam) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Specs for mobile video
I believe that most mobile phone networks require the .3gp videos to be delivered via a streaming protocol like RTSP rather then HTTP.That could be the issue with the Sprint handsets.Nokia always seems to be a more open and forgiving handset platform, but of course there are network provider issues beyond the handset hardware. -JoshOn 5/19/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Debi,Any ideas on how to get around this? Ideally there would be a solution that doesn't rely on the network's willingness or unwillingness to deliver certain files, like maybe a simple Bluetooth or USB transfer that could be set up easily by the viewers? They would still need to download the appropriate format though. 3gp is the most widely accepted codec, right? I'm glad we're talking about mobile again here. I subscribed to your blog earlier today. Very interesting stuff.Thanks,Adam Quirk thepan.org On 5/19/06, mobile_jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There more than just production factors involved with mobile video delivery. For example, while Rocketboom and other vlog offer a .3pg files, not all networks will deliver them via a WAP link. Many services which deliver video today use device detection to determine which device is requesting the file and therefore what network, screen size, storage and codecs are used by the handset. The result is that I can download and view Rocketboom on a Nokia over Cingular, but I can't view Rocketboom on a Samsung over Sprint. ...Debi --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 19/5/06 Irene Duma mentioned about ===SPAM=== [videoblogging] Specs for mobile video that: Any one know where one can find tech and production specs for mobile video? I would like to make some mobile compatible vlogs. I have info on what works creatively ( a nice summary here http://mobifest.ca/pdfs/MakingMobileMovies.pdf) http://mobifest.ca/pdfs/MakingMobileMovies.pdf) but am more interested in screen size, compression, device compatibility etc. dpends how fancy you want, easiest is to launch qt pro, select Movie to 3g from export settings, click options and read off the specs. pixel sizes are 128 x 96, 176 x 144, and 320 x 240, though technically the spec. doesn't say this, it says something like n times 16 x 16 blocks so you could have video that is 16 x whatever it needs to be long and it would follow the spec, you just wouldn't have a mobile phone screen that you could view it on. for more detail start at URL: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/mpeg4/ -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Anyone have Linux?
the iTunes (h.264) versions should work on Linux using VLC media player. -josh On 5/18/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got an e-mail from a guy asking why Galacticast isn't available for all operating systems... apparently he was irate because it wasn't working on Linux. As far as I can tell, if he downloads the .wmv file onto his computer and opens it into his default player (Xine), it should work... Does anyone use Linux and wouldn't mind checking it out for me? I don't want to leave anyone out in the cold just because they choose an alternative to Windows... Thanks, Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Full window alternative to Freevlog popup maker?
So the Freevlog popup thing is the same thing I wrote that is at http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker and that is also at http://embedthevideo.com It creates a popup window that passes the URL of the video file in the GET query string. The resulting popup page is actually a PHP page that takes the video URL from the query string and displays all the proper HTML embedding stuff based on the file extension. It correctly handles the Microsoft-EOLAS patent issue too so that you do not see the click to acivate Active-X warnings (this is a problem only for Internet Explorer and not Firefox). As Michael said, you can edit the code that you paste into your blog entry generated by the popupmaker. It contains values for height and width of the resulting window. You can set these to whatever you'd like. -josh On 5/14/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, gmjoyce_y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm trying to create a website/blog and I want to add my videos to it. When people come to my site and click on my videos, I want the videos to: 1.) start playing before they have downloaded fully. There are two places that you need to check... make sure the Quicktime movie was exported using fast start and then make sure that the object-embed code contains autoplay=true. 2.) play without site visitor having to click on that box that says Click to run an Active X control on this webpage. Verdi describes the problem in his tutorial. Can you provide a link to the tutorial and a link to your site. I need to see this problem in order to understand it better. 3.) play in a completely new window at full size, not a popup. Again, I'm not sure the exact problem but you don't even need _javascript_ in order to open a new (regular) window. Just use the target property... a href="" target=_blankLINKTEXT/a Hope all this is a step in the right direction. -Matt Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Beyond Broadcast - OMDS II
I'll see you guys there.Peace,joshOn 5/11/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Hudack and I are going up as well. Looks like we are staying in the Radisson. JV wrote: I'm here in Boston getting ready for the weekend. If anyone wants toget together, drop me a line. It is a bit rainy, but I'm still up formeeting anywhere around Harvard.Look forward to seeing everyone in person or online. Online Registration - http://www.beyondbroadcast.net/blog/?page_id=31 Jim Vinson DivX, Inc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Video Serials and The Internet Achive
Well, the stuff on the Internet Archive is public domain content, so technically there is no problem with what this person is doing... although I would agree that a remix or recontextualization would certainly be more interesting. -Josh On 5/10/06, Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Denis, At 18:12 + 10/5/06, Dennis wrote: Radar Men from the Moon Chapter 4 at http://serialexperience.libsyn.com and http://radionostalgia.libsyn.com Also, starting soon, Sonic Movies. Greats from the past Enjoy I was wondering why you would take the video of an old serial, download it from the Internet Archive where it is hosted, upload it to your own site, and publish it in a feed, without adding anything extra. Surely if someone goes to your site, they'd be interested in either a commentary of the episode, or perhaps an introduction by yourself. I noted the colourised version of the title screen as your blog image, so I was half expecting maybe a colourised version of the video, or for you to have redubbed the voices. Strangely enough, I was drawn to you post for this reason, because I started redubbing RADAR Men from the Moon a few years ago, but never finished it. Simply republishing other peoples' material on your own site, is a moral no no in this day and age, and especially on this list. You have to either remix it, or add something of additional value, or at least credit the original source. The Internet Archive deserves if not absolutely demands our support and respect, otherwise it may cease to be. Regards, Richard Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] dinner conversation-sexism and stuff
Maybe I'm coming to this whole conversation late... I've been trying to pick up the thread and I can't seem to figure it out... Seems like it started from someone basically sending out a casting email to the list seeking an actress to host a video podcast show about Golf. I think this is the first time a casting email has been sent to this group which is often more DIY oriented and tends to shun things like traditional scripts and actors.I don't think the casting email was sexist in any way... just sort of misplaced since it would probably acheive better results from a craigslist posting for an actress rather than to this list. Hey, if a video producer is seeking an attractive woman to host a show about golf, go right ahead. That's the person they're seeking for the role. It has nothing to do with any of the conversation happening here. Carry on... -JoshOn 5/10/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at dinner last night, with 2 women and 4 guys, and the 2 women totally dominated the discussion. Why can't we look at people as individuals that are either assertive or retiring, and quit looking at their chests for some sort of pattern or correlation? I won't shut someone up because of their sex; so why should I try to give them extra floor time? This is just perpetuating group-based thinking. I don't want more female vloggers. I don't want fewer of them either. I wouldn't mind more vloggers, but why should I value them more or less based on their genitalia?! SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Video Serials and The Internet Achive
Ooops, you are correct, Markus.I do believe that specific movie is public domain though.-JoshOn 5/10/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey Josh, i imagine you were referring to the particular movie collection but i thought it was worth emphasizing that not everything on the archive is in the public domain much of it is CC licensed of course some of it is even traditional copyright with no special licensing Joshua Kinberg wrote: Well, the stuff on the Internet Archive is public domain content, sotechnically there is no problem with what this person is doing...although I would agree that a remix or recontextualization wouldcertainly be more interesting. -JoshOn 5/10/06, Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Denis,At 18:12 + 10/5/06, Dennis wrote: Radar Men from the Moon Chapter 4 athttp://serialexperience.libsyn.com and http://radionostalgia.libsyn.com Also, starting soon, Sonic Movies. Greats from the past Enjoy I was wondering why you would take the video of an old serial,download it from the Internet Archive where it is hosted, upload itto your own site, and publish it in a feed, without adding anything extra.Surely if someone goes to your site, they'd be interested in either acommentary of the episode, or perhaps an introduction by yourself.I noted the colourised version of the title screen as your blog image, so I was half expecting maybe a colourised version of thevideo, or for you to have redubbed the voices. Strangely enough, Iwas drawn to you post for this reason, because I started redubbingRADAR Men from the Moon a few years ago, but never finished it. Simply republishing other peoples' material on your own site, is amoral no no in this day and age, and especially on this list. Youhave to either remix it, or add something of additional value, or atleast credit the original source. The Internet Archive deserves if not absolutely demands our supportand respect, otherwise it may cease to be.Regards, RichardYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandyhttp://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] dh vblog?
probably more accurately a video podcast, eh? -Josh On 5/8/06, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all so, this is a video blog? um, where is date of entry? trackback? text? comments? this is video on a web page that has some RSS If i viewed this in two weeks would week1, 2, etc have same content, and which week in which year would that be from? Though I imagine this is a question for the theory list :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I've actually met several lurkers on this list in person (you might be surprised who is lurking here). Often they are happy to sit back and watch the conversation as it happens -- though there is certainly a lot of conversation to take in on this list as it can be high-flow at times. Make no mistake about it -- there is great information that passes through here, from new ideas and new trends, technical innovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggers exploring new possibilities. -Josh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:55:25 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give up. apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and 18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas. Life is too short for ad hominem arguments. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re:Downloading from YouTube
When YouTube counts views they are actually counting how may times that page has loaded, not how many people viewed the video in entirety. You can witness this by simply refreshing the YouTube video page and watch the view count increase. So, yes, I think a zippy title like transsexuals in action could lead to some distorted viewing stats by luring people expecting to see (or searching for) transexuals, which by the way is not an uncommon search term. You could also name the video deepthroat blowjobs or something like that and watch the view count soar even higher!-JoshOn 5/7/06, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Hope and Josh hit similar note in their commentary about the large number of hits one of my videos got on YouTube: From: Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat May 6, 2006 3:57pm(PDT) Subject: Re: Downloading from YouTube.Quite right. I'm sure that most of the viewers were expecting some Cwith D porno. I wonder how many stayed through to the end of the video.Joshua Kinberg wrote:The thing you may be overlooking here with the viewercounts on YouTube is the fact that you titled that vlog entry,transsexuals in action.Sex sells, and on YouTube, that is certainly your best bet... whetheror not that video has anything to do really with transsexuals inaction (I didn't watch it), the title seems to imply that I would seetranssexuals performing sexual acts.-Josh** I don't see anything wrong in zippy packaging of a product or a message. Regardless of their motivation, three thousand people found themselves confronted with transgendered people listing the injustices they endure. I'm sure a number did watch the entire video because the speakers constituted a social show of sorts to the extent they varied greatly in appearance. Some looked like ordinary women. Others looked like males who had had sex change operations. If you're selling eithera message or just tickets to a movie, your primary goal is to get the viewing public in to see the show/hear the message. Wasn't the title of one movie about Jesus Christ entitled The Greatest Story Ever Told? Would a film entitled The Life of Jesus Christ be as popular? My title Transsexuals in Action was not inaccurate. This was the first time in the world that transgendered people had come together to give speeches and march in the streets demanding their rights. That's action isn't it? Putting a zippy title on your vlog is no different than putting a zippy cover on your book. The best book in the world with a plain cover will die on the shelves. An intriguing cover at least gets people to pick up the book (or open the vlog) and give the contents consideration. Writing a book that is never read is a waste of time. Producing a vlog that no one bothers to watch is also a waste of time. I'd rather be flooded with hate mail for a vlog I produced than to get no response at all. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Downloading from YouTube.
The thing you may be overlooking here with the viewer counts on YouTube is the fact that you titled that vlog entry, transsexuals in action.Sex sells, and on YouTube, that is certainly your best bet... whether or not that video has anything to do really with transsexuals in action (i didn't watch it), the title seems to imply that I would see transsexuals performing sexual acts. -JoshOn 5/6/06, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh mentions that there are geeky (or hacker) ways to download videos from YouTube. I use a very simple one. I set my digital video camera on a tripod in front of my LCD screen (resolution 1800 by 1200) and videotape the few rare gems I find there. I learned to do that when I tried to revisit some vlogs I thought were interesting and found they had been removed by YouTube or the person who posted them. The positive attraction YouTube offers is the size of the viewing audience. I only post vlogs there that I don't worry about maintaining exclusive ownership of. One of my vlogs entitled Transsexuals in Action, posted on February 3rd of this year has gotten a total of 65 views on Blip and 2,978 views on YouTube (forty-five times more views). That vlog, which is footage from the first rally and march for transgendered rights in Greenwich Village last summer, has also generated a number of hate comments but has received a 3 1/2-star rating from viewers who voted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqfH_1tyJc I have only posted a few vlogs on YouTube. Most of them are serious and haven't gotten such excessiveviews as has the above. Yes, the title was crafted to be salaciously inviting and on YouTube it has obviously worked. I only wonder what those who posted hateful comments were looking for when they clicked the link. Quality always finds its market and Blip TV is much better in that regard. A vlog I did on both Blip and YouTube, Women's Rights: A Worldwide Horror Story!, has received only 2 views on YouTube in the fifteen hours since I posted it but has gotten 92 hits on Blip and is near the top of Blip's most watched list. http://www.blip.tv/file/30495 You really have to be immune to the number of viewers and focus on producing the best product you can. Some of my best vlogs have gotten fewer viewers than some of my worse. I'd be interested in hearing about other experiences people have had with different hosting sites. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] can you do rss enclosures with video hosted by You Tube?
You are correct, Dawn.YouTube has a no download policy.You can embed the videos in a webpage (as long as they are served from YouTube's servers), but YouTube does not want to allow the videos to be downloaded and played from a location other than their own servers. There are known work-arounds, but they are rather hack-ish (I'm the author of one of these work-arounds, so its most definitely hack-ish).-joshOn 5/3/06, Dawn Endico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally have something new to post to my video blog decided to try out You Tube. Its pretty nice, but there doesn't seem to be any way to access my mp4 file directly so i can't make an rss enclosure and the videos aren't accessible via Fire Ant or iTunes. I guess I'll upload things to You Tube for people reading the blog with a web browser and continue uploading to the Internet Archive for people using rss readers. Or am I wrong? Here's the post in question http://walkingonairvideo.blogspot.com/2006/05/rattlesnake-wrestling.html -- http://tafoni.net/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] PDFcasting
faxcast faxicate syndifax podfax ... -josh On 4/28/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: I can't believe I'm using these buzzwords, but... Would this be... Web 2.0 faxing?! Social Faxing! +nathan Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] PDFcasting
be on the look out for faxr It could be like Skype for faxing... which is actually not a bad idea. Let's you share files via P2P and fax documents to actual fax machines like Skype-Out. Quick someone write that on a napkin! -josh On 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be on the look out for faxr On 4/28/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: faxcast faxicate syndifax podfax ... -josh On 4/28/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: I can't believe I'm using these buzzwords, but... Would this be... Web 2.0 faxing?! Social Faxing! +nathan Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] PDFcasting
Julian Bleecker has written about similar topics under the name Blogjects, or objects that blog. http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/02/manifesto_for_blogje.html And not to toot my own horn, but Bikes Against Bush was pretty much a blogject with many of these capabilities... it could receive messages, print them in physical space, and blog the message in virtual space with photographs and location info via GPS generated maps (pre-google maps) -- and then it ended up in an NYPD warehouse for a year... which sucked. FWIW, Julian Bleecker was also one of my instructors at Parsons... -josh On 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then toasters and fridges will start communicating, banding together into loose tribes of man-hating appliances. Like Terminator, less bullets, and more flinging toast, dangerously-swinging fridge doors, etc. On 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/28/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see it now. Appliancecasting Damn, that can get scary. hackers Use RSS to black out a NYC Or even just use RSS to make that ex's milk sour :) On 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/28/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be on the look out for faxr It could be like Skype for faxing... which is actually not a bad idea. Let's you share files via P2P and fax documents to actual fax machines like Skype-Out. hm...this would be pretty cool actually. Faxes via rss/p2p/skype right to fax machines. Fax-spam the planet! Quick someone write that on a napkin! -josh On 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be on the look out for faxr On 4/28/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: faxcast faxicate syndifax podfax ... -josh On 4/28/06, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: I can't believe I'm using these buzzwords, but... Would this be... Web 2.0 faxing?! Social Faxing! +nathan Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com
Re: [videoblogging] PDFcasting
precisely... and tags... and it has a HOTT web 2.0 name like Faxr!or maybe Faxoodle.-joshOn 4/28/06, Charles HOPE
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Dude, that's so 1.0. This comes with AJAX!
robert a/k/a r wrote:
how is this different from the emailing pdf to fax-out servers that existed as both an in-house mail server connectors and outside services that have been around since approx the 90s?oh wait. soldering on an rssemail mod, is that what you mean?
--cheersrDeconstructing the status quo, collaborativelymy vlog: http://r.24x7.com
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
be on the look out for faxr
It could be like Skype for faxing... which is actually not a bad idea.Let's you share files via P2P and fax documents to actual fax machineslike Skype-Out.Quick someone write that on a napkin!
-joshOn 4/28/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
be on the look out for faxrOn 4/28/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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faxcast faxicate syndifax podfax ... -josh On 4/28/06, Nathan Freitas
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Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
I can't believe I'm using these buzzwords, but...Would this be... Web 2.0 faxing?!
Social Faxing!+nathan
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: even better than Rolling Stone...
Hey Deirdre, Thanks for finding this. Is there a link to the article online? -josh On 4/26/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps The Economist says Podcasting is even expanding from audio to video, although this trend is as yet so new that several words (vodcasting, vidcasting , vlogging) are still vying for the honour. - but they themselves seem to favor vlogging. On 4/26/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh Kinberg is cited in the Economist's survey of New Media, specifically http://ia300104.us.archive.org/1/items/TaylorBarcroftJoshuaKinberginterviewbyTaylorBarcroft91605/JoshKinberg.mov -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: lightbox for Video
We used to use this technique to display video on FireAnt.tv, but we decided to scrap that method for a number of reasons. It ended up being a rather confusing interface, it often caused problems in different browsers, and it made it harder for people to link directly to videos to bookmark them, etc. Just my opinion... -josh On 4/26/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do it -- probably next release. Thanks for the suggestion! -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah Michael Sullivan has adapted this for video and uses it at Vlogdir.com. But A Wordpress plugin would be cool too. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: I just started using Lightbox for photos on my blog and germany blog/vlog click on a picture in this post: http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ I was thinking that it would be kinda cool to have this work for video as well, I am using the wordpress plugin that automatically uses lightbox when an image is linked to another image, i imagine it could be hacked to work with linked video lightbox: http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/ WP plugin: http://zeo.unic.net.my/2006/01/17/wp-lightbox-js-wordpress-plugin/ any thoughts? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: lightbox for Video
the idea of modal windows like the lightbox script isnt a bad one just because the FireAnt approach didnt work well enough. Just stating my opinion on using this method on our site for a while and why we switched to a different technique. Take it or leave it. The biggest problem in my eyes was that there was no visible video permalink appearing in the browser address bar to copy-paste. I think people generally expect that when they want to link to something or bookmark it. Again... simple observations from using this technique on our site. -joshOn 4/26/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the idea of modal windows like the lightbox script isnt a bad one just because the FireAnt approach didnt work well enough. I remember it and it did crash my browser on occasion... it slid up and down and was prob trying to do too much with the general idea. i do like the lightbox approach because when i am watching a video, i like to focus on the video. dimming out the rest of the screen really helps cut down on the noise of a site and it makes me absorb the video content better... makes sense to me. though, i also sometimes like to have a popup video opened so i can browse and watch. it usually depends on the type of content and my mood. sullOn 4/26/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We used to use this technique to display video on FireAnt.tv, but wedecided to scrap that method for a number of reasons. It ended upbeing a rather confusing interface, it often caused problems indifferent browsers, and it made it harder for people to link directly to videos to bookmark them, etc.Just my opinion...-joshOn 4/26/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do it -- probably next release. Thanks for the suggestion! -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah Michael Sullivan has adapted this for video and uses it at Vlogdir.com . But A Wordpress plugin would be cool too. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: I just started using Lightbox for photos on my blog and germany blog/vlog click on a picture in this post: http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/ I was thinking that it would be kinda cool to have this work for video as well, I am using the wordpress plugin that automatically uses lightbox when an image is linked to another image, i imagine it could be hacked to work with linked video lightbox: http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/ WP plugin: http://zeo.unic.net.my/2006/01/17/wp-lightbox-js-wordpress-plugin/ any thoughts? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.comYahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help with ActiveX
Yep, the Active-X issue is major and something we had to fix across every webpage at FireAnt.tv last week. Michael Verdi did a great job updating the pop-up maker script and incorporating it into Freevlog. I haven't yet had a chance to update it on my own site or embedthevideo.com, but I'd suggest people use the Freevlog version anyway. Thanks, Michael! -josh On 4/21/06, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, We're paying attention to this latest update over at blip, and we're working to release new code that will hopefully avoid these security pop-ups. We're a little swamped with ongoing business right now, but we'll release something asap. Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Verdi wrote: If the alert that they user is seeing is related to the recent IE security update then won't they see it even if the video is Flash since it will use the Object tag? huh? Let me pour another cup of coffee here ;-) [ Later: ah, got it, I think... for Is use of Flash affected by the recent Microsoft browser change? then yes, it is, with lots more info here: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent ] When I go to a page where someone has posted a flash movie with code they get from blip I get a Click to activate and use this control message when I mouse over it. Also, for example the website for my theater uses flash for thier navagation and I get that same thing on each page I navagate too. The solution I beleive lies not in what format you choose but in how you write it into the page. The way I understand it and have experienced it so far is that any use of the Object, Embed or Applet tags gets you the alert in IE 6. Hmm, if an underlying question Is the new 'click to activate' tooltip in Microsoft Internet Explorer like the 'missing plugin' or 'update your plugin' alerts browsers sometime show?, then I don't think so... different issues. But I'm not sure I pulled the right question-mark out of the paragraph of periods. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh
Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip rather than a preview -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for them. They forced users into an opt out situation when they had never in fact opted in. This is dishonest. -josh On 4/20/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: exactly!!! Michael Verdi wrote: For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company
I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content. If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics. -josh On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users. It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Reltag support
Why would you need multiple tag URIs with the same tagname but for different tag services. In theory, you would only need one tagname and any consuming service should pick it up.FYI, relTag support is something on our roadmap as well and should be implemented in the FireAnt directory in the not too distant future... eventually, I would expect many sites and services that consume RSS and also have tagging to support relTag. -JoshOn 4/18/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps but doesnt HREF actuall mean hypertext reference ... this wouldnt be a html doc, and would have to point to one (maybe it points to anohter xml doc)URL seems to be a pretty strandard attribute in RSS ... I could see using IRI ... eh, we'll burn that bridge if the extension is ever actuall designed. :-P On 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,On 4/18/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah they arent really the same thing. All the ways they are different hit you when you try to code around them. I've treated them mostly the same on my site, but have found myself very limited at times because of it. I've often wished I'd written my system differently so that it made clear what was a category and what was a tag ... but back when I was learning the difference I relied on Technorati to show me the way ... which may not have been the best idea. :-P I like Devlon's description: Posts belong to categories. Tags belong to posts.Not to get too far off topic here but the more I think about a tag extension to rss the more I love the idea. It could even have optional links to various clouds. Something like: tag name=videobloggingweek2006 link url="" href="http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/" target="_blank" > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/MeFeedia/link link url="" href="http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006" target="_blank" >http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006Technorati/link link url="" href="http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?" target="_blank" > http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?FireAnt/link ... etc etc ... tag I know I'm nitpicking (yet again), but... if you want to go down that path... I'd suggest calling that attribute href instead of url. Here's some reasons for that: We keep on changing the name we call these things. First they were URL's. Then they were URI's. And now they're IRI's. (There might even be a new name now.) So picking a name like that will, at best, make it seem dated, and at worst, confuse people. href has much much more common usage.href is used by HTML (so this will seem familiar to people who know HTML).href is used by Atom (so this will seem familiar to people who know Atom). See ya I imagine a script could be written pretty easily for use in most/any/all blog systems to parse out rel=tag and add the rss info. Anyway ... great update to mefeedia! :-)- Dave On 4/18/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Peter,On 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity, why is it philosophically the wrong approach to use the RSS category element?Because a category is not the same as a tag.. Tags are useddescriptively, categories are often things like Announcements, things that aren't really tags. I am quite wary about using tags inthe wrong way... But there is no right answer, of course.Peter Hmmm... I've always considered them to be exactly the same thing. They're just labels you are labelling things with. I think the scope is different. Tags are granular, portions of a post can be tagged...categories are like 'containers'. Posts belong to a categorytags belong to a post. That's just my read on it though. I didn't think it mattered whether you call them tags or categories or keywords. They all really seem the same. (It's up to you in what kind of meaning you put behind them.) The only difference I've seen with this type of stuff is whether the creator or the users tagged this stuff. (But, what we're talking about here is creator tagged stuff.) See ya-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc .charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Re: [videoblogging] Reltag support
RSS doesn't have real links that you can click on, unless its rendered as HTML. RSS isn't hypertext. It's just data. What you do with that data is another story, and its quite common to use XSLT to transform RSS into hypertext that can be rendered in a browser appropriately. -Josh On 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello David, HTML is just one example of Hypertext. (Although probably the most popular one.) Both RSS and Atom are Hypertext too! Basically, if you've got links, then (by definition) you're Hypertext. See ya On 4/18/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps but doesnt HREF actuall mean hypertext reference ... this wouldnt be a html doc, and would have to point to one (maybe it points to anohter xml doc) URL seems to be a pretty strandard attribute in RSS ... I could see using IRI ... eh, we'll burn that bridge if the extension is ever actuall designed. :-P On 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 4/18/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah they arent really the same thing. All the ways they are different hit you when you try to code around them. I've treated them mostly the same on my site, but have found myself very limited at times because of it. I've often wished I'd written my system differently so that it made clear what was a category and what was a tag ... but back when I was learning the difference I relied on Technorati to show me the way ... which may not have been the best idea. :-P I like Devlon's description: Posts belong to categories. Tags belong to posts. Not to get too far off topic here but the more I think about a tag extension to rss the more I love the idea. It could even have optional links to various clouds. Something like: tag name=videobloggingweek2006 link url= http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/;MeFeedia/link link url=http://technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006;Technorati/link link url= http://fireant.tv/directory/tags/videobloggingweek2006?;FireAnt/link ... etc etc ... tag I know I'm nitpicking (yet again), but... if you want to go down that path... I'd suggest calling that attribute href instead of url. Here's some reasons for that: We keep on changing the name we call these things. First they were URL's. Then they were URI's. And now they're IRI's. (There might even be a new name now.) So picking a name like that will, at best, make it seem dated, and at worst, confuse people. href has much much more common usage. href is used by HTML (so this will seem familiar to people who know HTML). href is used by Atom (so this will seem familiar to people who know Atom). See ya I imagine a script could be written pretty easily for use in most/any/all blog systems to parse out rel=tag and add the rss info. Anyway ... great update to mefeedia! :-) - Dave On 4/18/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Peter, On 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity, why is it philosophically the wrong approach to use the RSS category element? Because a category is not the same as a tag.. Tags are used descriptively, categories are often things like Announcements, things that aren't really tags. I am quite wary about using tags in the wrong way... But there is no right answer, of course. Peter Hmmm... I've always considered them to be exactly the same thing. They're just labels you are labelling things with. I think the scope is different. Tags are granular, portions of a post can be tagged...categories are like 'containers'. Posts belong to a categorytags belong to a post. That's just my read on it though. I didn't think it mattered whether you call them tags or categories or keywords. They all really seem the same. (It's up to you in what kind of meaning you put behind them.) The only difference I've seen with this type of stuff is whether the creator or the users tagged this stuff. (But, what we're talking about here is creator tagged stuff.) [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Reltag support
iTunes and MRSS provide namespaces for keywords. -josh On 4/18/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 18, 2006, at 11:16 AM, David Meade wrote: ah ok. I may rework how I do most of my tags one day although not today for the same reason #2 you gave. :-) I only did it that way because for a while Technorati really strongly pushed that method. It's still listed as their #1 way to tag items, although they seem to have moved more fully into the rel=tag camp. what we really need is a tag extension for rss (seperate from category) :-P That's a really good idea. I'm not sure off hand if Media RSS has that already, but I haven't finished realing this thread. My guess is by the time I read all the posts someone will have answered this question throughly. -Mike On 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, we don't support the category element yet. Two reasons: 1) I think it's philosophically the wrong approach, and 2) It's another day of coding and I don't have time right now, gotta finish some consulting work :) Not to say we won't, if I find some time I might implement that. Cheers! Peter On 4/18/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats awesome. Will it also tag posts with the item's category elements in the feed? I typically rely on these for technorati tagging. On 4/18/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, From today, Mefeedia supports the rel=tag standard. This means that you can put tags in your blogpost, and your video will be tagged automatically at Mefeedia. No more having to come to Mefeedia just to tag all your videos. To add tags, just add something like the following to your blogpost: a rel=tag href= http://mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/ videobloggingweek2006/a As with the other sites that support this standard, the link can go to any website, like Technorati, Wikipedia or Mefeedia, as long as the last part of the link is the same as the tag. We also used our Powers (tm) to run the script back in time, to the beginning of 2006, so if you were already using tags in your blogposts, all your videos have been tagged since January 2006. So all your videoblogging2006 tags are in Mefeedia now, whether you tagged them in Mefeedia or not: http://mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2006/ Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Peter Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Videoblogging group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
