Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:32:50 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit. Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible? A Greasemonkey solution is the obvious answer (runs only on Firefox and Opera). It'll take like an hour or two to get working I bet. Mail me off-list and we'll spec it out and build it. Don't forget that if you have QT Pro you can right click on the video and save a copy to your harddrive. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk about it and reference it? I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously popular and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only to apply security patches... sort of like heh! idiots! clue in! here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it and learn something from it. Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action, because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point of suppressing free speech. But there's nothing the olympic committee can sue about as long as you say unofficial clearly in the title... because enclosing a video is no less legal than linking directly to a video... and quoting short descriptive captions about the videos is perfectly legal too. These things are the very foundation of the blogging world, basic re-blogging in fact. I repeat, the foundations of blogging. Anyone trying to suppress such basic freedoms would stir a hornets nest of controversy. See Streisand effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_Effect Anyway, this is my idea of
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
This is slightly unrelated, but:Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.jsAnd Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.jsI want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible?I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk about it and reference it? I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously popular and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only to apply security patches... sort of like heh! idiots! clue in! here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it and learn something from it. Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action, because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point of suppressing free speech. But there's nothing
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
doesn't webjay do this?-JoshOn 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is slightly unrelated, but:Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts: http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.jsI want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible?I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk about it and reference it? I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously popular and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only to apply security patches... sort of like heh! idiots! clue in! here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it and learn something from it. Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action, because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond simply protecting such entities
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
There's a Firefox extension called Web Developer that will give the media info on a page - among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web design or development. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60application=firefox Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that you already know/have? I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each time I load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links pops up to all the media files on the page. A browser plugin. If Webjay does it, I'm sold. Just didn't think it did. On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesn't webjay do this? -Josh On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is slightly unrelated, but: Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts: http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit. Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible? I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it. On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I use it on occasion, didn't notice that feature though. On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:46 PM, wtrainbow wrote: There's a Firefox extension called Web Developer that will give the media info on a page - among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web design or development. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=60application=firefox Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that you already know/have? I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each time I load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links pops up to all the media files on the page. A browser plugin. If Webjay does it, I'm sold. Just didn't think it did. On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesn't webjay do this? -Josh On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is slightly unrelated, but: Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts: http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit. Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible? I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it. On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Yes Bill thqt's right. You can even save as QT files from the Flip4Mac playback because I have QT Pro. Amazing technology. I had no idea they were WMP files. Flip4Mac completely hides that fact. BTW My new Quad that I got for $3029 including tax came with TWO 1 GB sticks of RAM instead of the 512 they promised. Whoot! Such a deal. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Bill Streeter wrote: I might go out on a limb here and guess that since he is using the Flip4Mac he is seeing WMV files play back in Quicktime and assuming that these are native QuickTime files. But I could be wrong. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I'm glad Flip4Mac works for you. From my experience, it causes so many conflicts with other software programs, it's more trouble than it's worth. For instance, it conflicts with iSync. Why on EARTH a video conversion utility would conflict with iSync is beyond me, but there you have it. It conflicts with iMovie. Basically, when I need to convert a windows media file to a mac format, I think long and hard about whether or not I really need it, because it's going to be such a PITA to install, use, then uninstall. As with almost everything, I've discovered that if it's only available in a Windows platform, I really didn't need it after all. --Stephanie On 2/14/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Bill thqt's right. You can even save as QT files from the Flip4Mac playback because I have QT Pro. Amazing technology. I had no idea they were WMP files. Flip4Mac completely hides that fact. BTW My new Quad that I got for $3029 including tax came with TWO 1 GB sticks of RAM instead of the 512 they promised. Whoot! Such a deal. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Bill Streeter wrote: I might go out on a limb here and guess that since he is using the Flip4Mac he is seeing WMV files play back in Quicktime and assuming that these are native QuickTime files. But I could be wrong. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Stephanie Bryant wrote: I'm glad Flip4Mac works for you. From my experience, it causes so many conflicts with other software programs, it's more trouble than it's worth. For instance, it conflicts with iSync. Why on EARTH a video conversion utility would conflict with iSync is beyond me, but there you have it. It conflicts with iMovie. Can you be more specific about the conflicts? URLs please? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Well, I can start with: uninstalling flip4mac solved my iSync problem. Reinstall, and the problem recurs. I'm not making that up. A fairly basic google search brings up: http://www.unsanity.org/archives/000425.php and: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/feedback/article.php?story=20060112160911793#comments And the Apple discussion forums mention this issue as well, which is where I found out about it to fix the problem I was having. It also, by the way, can break QuickTime export to iPod, which I also experienced: http://www.tuaw.com/2006/02/06/flip4mac-breaks-quicktime-export/ It seems to me that video software that breaks things that are related to it (QT) as well as things that aren't (iSync) is pretty buggy and broken software. --Stephanie On 2/14/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephanie Bryant wrote: I'm glad Flip4Mac works for you. From my experience, it causes so many conflicts with other software programs, it's more trouble than it's worth. For instance, it conflicts with iSync. Why on EARTH a video conversion utility would conflict with iSync is beyond me, but there you have it. It conflicts with iMovie. Can you be more specific about the conflicts? URLs please? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC broadcast or satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD. But if you must use the internet it's here: http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 12, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Enric wrote: Link to NBC's Olympic Video Blog? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!! It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save as quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minute http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote: You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC broadcast or satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD. But if you must use the internet it's here: http://nbcolympics.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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To me, it looks like NBC is putting video on the web, but not videoblogging. The reason you can't post a link to a specific video blog post, is because there are no permalinks. These videos are kind of in a reverse chronological order on the page, but not really bloggy. The content of the videos might be vloggy, but I see no actual vlog there. No text post with additional links. No comment mechanism either. There is an Olympic blog at http://olympics.about.com/, but I don't see any video there. The whole beauty of putting video into blogs is that it enable a conversation. The conversation can happen when others link to you vlog post via the permalink and talk about it, when viewers talk to you and other viewers in the comments, or when you get an email back about what you have presented. I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:20 AM, Kunga wrote: You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!! It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save as quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minute http://nbcolympics.com --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com My most recent post: VLOG SOUP: Episode 11 http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/02/vlog_soup_episo.html You are worth like 50 million danishes. - Amy Carpenter Alternative reply address: stephen.garfield [AT] comcast.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Uhh...I dont see any vlogs. I see videos of the events but no vlogs. Could you give me a link to a vlog post there. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!! It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save as quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minute http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote: You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC broadcast or satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD. But if you must use the internet it's here: http://nbcolympics.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter On 2/13/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhh...I dont see any vlogs. I see videos of the events but no vlogs. Could you give me a link to a vlog post there. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!! It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save as quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minute http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote: You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC broadcast or satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD. But if you must use the internet it's here: http://nbcolympics.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save asquicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minute got some direct links to these quicktime movies?On 2/13/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!! It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save asquicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/minutehttp://nbcolympics.com --Taylor BarcroftNew Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, FuturecasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon ValleyURL http://FutureMedia.orgRSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMediaiTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87barcroft (gizmo)kungax (Skype)kungag5 (iChat-AIM)On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote: You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC broadcast or satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD. But if you must use the internet it's here: http://nbcolympics.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- - - - - Sullhttp://vlogdir.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Absolutely, I get the same thing. Using Firefox on XP pro. Fresh install of WM10. And clicking just 'play' on any individual vid does nothing, as does clicking 'full screen' clicking 'help' I see Video Support NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher, for PC or Mac. Playlist Support The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac. Layout is nice tho, I'll give you that. I dunno where Kunga sees the quicktime joly I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
The other option I found after a google search for quicktime at the site is an RSS feed for iTunes: http://www.nbcolympics.com/wmaq/5087825/detail.html I tried it and got the last mp3 file on Elgas Leaves for Torino... and MPEG-4 file What is Curling... The funny thing about the What is Curling... video is the audio is not synchronized with the video. I also tried another video Speed Suits... and the audio is also off. I looked for the files where iTunes stored them and found: Speed Suits - NBC5 Olympics Podcast.mp4 What Is Curling_ - NBC5 Olympics Pod.mp4 in QT7 the audio also is out of synce. And the movie info. for Speed Suits... shows: Format: MPEG-4 video, 320 x 240, Millions AAC, Stereo (L R) 24, kHz Movie FPS: 15.00 Data Size 8.99 MB Data Rate: 669.77 kbits/sec -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, I get the same thing. Using Firefox on XP pro. Fresh install of WM10. And clicking just 'play' on any individual vid does nothing, as does clicking 'full screen' clicking 'help' I see Video Support NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher, for PC or Mac. Playlist Support The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac. Layout is nice tho, I'll give you that. I dunno where Kunga sees the quicktime joly I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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sarcasm wow...what an awesome blog /sarcasm David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other option I found after a google search for quicktime at the site is an RSS feed for iTunes: http://www.nbcolympics.com/wmaq/5087825/detail.html I tried it and got the last mp3 file on Elgas Leaves for Torino... and MPEG-4 file What is Curling... The funny thing about the What is Curling... video is the audio is not synchronized with the video. I also tried another video Speed Suits... and the audio is also off. I looked for the files where iTunes stored them and found: Speed Suits - NBC5 Olympics Podcast.mp4 What Is Curling_ - NBC5 Olympics Pod.mp4 in QT7 the audio also is out of synce. And the movie info. for Speed Suits... shows: Format: MPEG-4 video, 320 x 240, Millions AAC, Stereo (L R) 24, kHz Movie FPS: 15.00 Data Size 8.99 MB Data Rate: 669.77 kbits/sec -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup joly@ wrote: Absolutely, I get the same thing. Using Firefox on XP pro. Fresh install of WM10. And clicking just 'play' on any individual vid does nothing, as does clicking 'full screen' clicking 'help' I see Video Support NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher, for PC or Mac. Playlist Support The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac. Layout is nice tho, I'll give you that. I dunno where Kunga sees the quicktime joly I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. There are definitely Olympian videos not only ads. Profiles of different Olympians with their comments on the games and how they got there are all over that site. There are like 15 second Nissan Xtera ads on the front of them, but I never saw a video that was only an ad. You need to get off the home page and drill down to specific articles all of which have accompanying videos. As for the ability to comment and interact, I'm old school and don't care about that and don't think that is necessarily the criteria for a video blog. To me, a video blog is any site that has video on it that I can play and control and save to my HD. http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: The whole beauty of putting video into blogs is that it enable a conversation. The conversation can happen when others link to you vlog post via the permalink and talk about it, when viewers talk to you and other viewers in the comments, or when you get an email back about what you have presented. I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Direct link to these Quicktime movies you mentioned please. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. There are definitely Olympian videos not only ads. Profiles of different Olympians with their comments on the games and how they got there are all over that site. There are like 15 second Nissan Xtera ads on the front of them, but I never saw a video that was only an ad. You need to get off the home page and drill down to specific articles all of which have accompanying videos. As for the ability to comment and interact, I'm old school and don't care about that and don't think that is necessarily the criteria for a video blog. To me, a video blog is any site that has video on it that I can play and control and save to my HD. http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: The whole beauty of putting video into blogs is that it enable a conversation. The conversation can happen when others link to you vlog post via the permalink and talk about it, when viewers talk to you and other viewers in the comments, or when you get an email back about what you have presented. I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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All the Mac users got their Flip4Mac WMV to QuickTime plug-in installed like Josh told us to a couple of weeks ago? The player plug in is free. I am running it in Safari. http://www.flip4mac.com/ http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/5082421/detail.html Clark on winning 2002 gold Defending Olympic champion Kelly Clark reflects on winning halfpipe gold four years ago in Salt Lake. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/5058886/detail.html Bleiler on missing 2002 Games Just missing out on the 2002 Olympics, Aspen native Gretchen Bleiler says, is what sparked her to become the snowboarder she is today: a confident medal contender for the 2006 Games. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:48 AM, WWWhatsup wrote: Absolutely, I get the same thing. Using Firefox on XP pro. Fresh install of WM10. And clicking just 'play' on any individual vid does nothing, as does clicking 'full screen' clicking 'help' I see Video Support NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher, for PC or Mac. Playlist Support The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac. Layout is nice tho, I'll give you that. I dunno where Kunga sees the quicktime joly I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for the ability to comment and interact, I'm old school and don't care about that and don't think that is necessarily the criteria for a video blog. To me, a video blog is any site that has video on it that I can play and control and save to my HD. snip Welcome to the new school. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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not sarcasm wow...what an awesome blog /not sarcasm But the podcast is from January and not now. So I hope they get back up with more soon. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:51 AM, David Howell wrote: sarcasm wow...what an awesome blog /sarcasm David http://www.taoofdavid.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Those are Windows Media Files. Again, would you please post a direct link to these Quicktime videos you wrote about. Thanks David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the Mac users got their Flip4Mac WMV to QuickTime plug-in installed like Josh told us to a couple of weeks ago? The player plug in is free. I am running it in Safari. http://www.flip4mac.com/ http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/5082421/detail.html Clark on winning 2002 gold Defending Olympic champion Kelly Clark reflects on winning halfpipe gold four years ago in Salt Lake. http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/5058886/detail.html Bleiler on missing 2002 Games Just missing out on the 2002 Olympics, Aspen native Gretchen Bleiler says, is what sparked her to become the snowboarder she is today: a confident medal contender for the 2006 Games. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:48 AM, WWWhatsup wrote: Absolutely, I get the same thing. Using Firefox on XP pro. Fresh install of WM10. And clicking just 'play' on any individual vid does nothing, as does clicking 'full screen' clicking 'help' I see Video Support NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher, for PC or Mac. Playlist Support The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac. Layout is nice tho, I'll give you that. I dunno where Kunga sees the quicktime joly I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Awesome Enric. Way to go on the find. Just add this url manually to your iTunes or FireANT and you should be good to go everyone. It the Olympic NBC Video AND audio Podcast and its FREE!!! 4 Audio and 5 video transmissions so far. This is great. Wow!! http://www.nbc5.com/olympics/podcast.rss -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Enric wrote: The other option I found after a google search for quicktime at the site is an RSS feed for iTunes: http://www.nbcolympics.com/wmaq/5087825/detail.html I tried it and got the last mp3 file on Elgas Leaves for Torino... and MPEG-4 file What is Curling... The funny thing about the What is Curling... video is the audio is not synchronized with the video. I also tried another video Speed Suits... and the audio is also off. I looked for the files where iTunes stored them and found: Speed Suits - NBC5 Olympics Podcast.mp4 What Is Curling_ - NBC5 Olympics Pod.mp4 in QT7 the audio also is out of synce. And the movie info. for Speed Suits... shows: Format: MPEG-4 video, 320 x 240, Millions AAC, Stereo (L R) 24, kHz Movie FPS: 15.00 Data Size 8.99 MB Data Rate: 669.77 kbits/sec -- Enric -==- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
extreme sarcasm pretty up to date blog /extreme sacarsm You've lost me here. One minute it's a blog. The next it's a vlog with downloadable Quicktime movies. Now it's a podcast...with month old data. Kwhatever you say there. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sarcasm wow...what an awesome blog /not sarcasm But the podcast is from January and not now. So I hope they get back up with more soon. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:51 AM, David Howell wrote: sarcasm wow...what an awesome blog /sarcasm David http://www.taoofdavid.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
oy, not the what is a videoblog game. Video on a website does not equal a video blog. A blog is a website, but not every website is a blog. Many people misunderstand that, but blogs entail a certain set of shared technological and social protocols, almost none of which seem to be present on this Olympic video site with the exception of the RSS feed discovered by Enric. -Josh On 2/13/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. There are definitely Olympian videos not only ads. Profiles of different Olympians with their comments on the games and how they got there are all over that site. There are like 15 second Nissan Xtera ads on the front of them, but I never saw a video that was only an ad. You need to get off the home page and drill down to specific articles all of which have accompanying videos. As for the ability to comment and interact, I'm old school and don't care about that and don't think that is necessarily the criteria for a video blog. To me, a video blog is any site that has video on it that I can play and control and save to my HD. http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: The whole beauty of putting video into blogs is that it enable a conversation. The conversation can happen when others link to you vlog post via the permalink and talk about it, when viewers talk to you and other viewers in the comments, or when you get an email back about what you have presented. I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. snip From Wikipedia entry for blog, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog : A blog entry typically consists of the following: * Title - main title of the post, * Body - main content of the post, * Comments - comments added by readers * Category (or tags) - category the post is labeled with (optional, multiple categories possible) * Blogroll - other blogs that the blog author reads/affiliates with * Permalink - the URL of the full, individual article * Post Date - date and time the post was published * Trackback - links to other sites that refer to the entry Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Look. I appreciate any effort NBC makes to adopt these new media. So I am not going to sit there and pretend that I am better than they are by putting them down. They are trying. That is the point. You don't have to get all high and mighty about how bad they are when they are obviously trying to adapt as best they can. I think it's great they are doing ANYTHING AT ALL. Just because they are technically incompetent is no reason to put them down. ; ^ ) Wild out of synch audio on that Curling tutorial. But for me, this has NOTHING to do about content. It's all about the media not the message. You guys are way too hung up on content. I really don't pay taht much attention to the content of anything. I am always paying attention to the form of the media not what's in it. There are a lot of videos in each specific article about Olympians. That to me is cool. And the audio is not always out of synch. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:29 AM, David Howell wrote: extreme sarcasm pretty up to date blog /extreme sacarsm You've lost me here. One minute it's a blog. The next it's a vlog with downloadable Quicktime movies. Now it's a podcast...with month old data. Kwhatever you say there. David http://www.taoofdavid.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I think it's good that currently established media companies joins in new and developing net media standards. But, words and terms have meaning and defintion, even if that meaning and definitions are developing. To call something other than what it is, confuses things. It doesn't work for someone to be told they're going to watch a rugby game and it turns out to be football. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look. I appreciate any effort NBC makes to adopt these new media. So I am not going to sit there and pretend that I am better than they are by putting them down. They are trying. That is the point. You don't have to get all high and mighty about how bad they are when they are obviously trying to adapt as best they can. I think it's great they are doing ANYTHING AT ALL. Just because they are technically incompetent is no reason to put them down. ; ^ ) Wild out of synch audio on that Curling tutorial. But for me, this has NOTHING to do about content. It's all about the media not the message. You guys are way too hung up on content. I really don't pay taht much attention to the content of anything. I am always paying attention to the form of the media not what's in it. There are a lot of videos in each specific article about Olympians. That to me is cool. And the audio is not always out of synch. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:29 AM, David Howell wrote: extreme sarcasm pretty up to date blog /extreme sacarsm You've lost me here. One minute it's a blog. The next it's a vlog with downloadable Quicktime movies. Now it's a podcast...with month old data. Kwhatever you say there. David http://www.taoofdavid.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
..Theres glory for you! I dont know what you mean by glory, Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. Of course you dont--until I tell you. I meant theres a nice knockdown argument for you! But glory doesnt mean a nice knockdown argument, Alice objected. When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I choose it to mean-neither more nor less. The question is, said Alice, whether you can make words mean so many different things. The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who is it to be master. That is all. -- Alica Through The Looking Glass, Lewis Carol Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. snip From Wikipedia entry for "blog", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog : A blog entry typically consists of the following: * Title - main title of the post, * Body - main content of the post, * Comments - comments added by readers * Category (or tags) - category the post is labeled with (optional, multiple categories possible) * Blogroll - other blogs that the blog author reads/affiliates with * Permalink - the URL of the full, individual article * Post Date - date and time the post was published * Trackback - links to other sites that refer to the entry -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I *love* shiny DVD discs. Doesn't matter what's on 'em, they are shiny shiny!! Did I get that right? Content might adapt itself to a medium, hence, the ER Show mobile podcast content is created conceptually different (even had to change the theme music) when it's delivered to a mobile phone. Blogs are, for the record, just one teeny piece of the puzzle. A fraction. There are video blogs that don't have blogs (cuz really, auto-delivery in RSS enclosures does not need a blog). And theoretically, device-to-device personal publishing skips the interweb altogether. If the content looks like a vlog's content, but doesn't hit the web, is it still a vlog? Don't care. Doesn't matter. It's media made by people-to-people. And, big media, incorporated can do it too. I watch Verdi. I watch MTV. This is the future of my media. And this is the future of my own brand. How many videos could we have posted to (insert-what-the-hell-ever-medium-here) in all the time it takes to argue unproductive issues. Or in otherwords, did we get one more person to make video, or collectively do we look like a bunch of jackasses? Your call, not mine. I got work to do. Ciao. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for me, this has NOTHING to do about content. It's all about the media not the message. You guys are way too hung up on content. I really don't pay taht much attention to the content of anything. I am always paying attention to the form of the media not what's in it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I just edited that blog entry on wikipedia. It now says: Blog basics A blog entry typically consists of the following: * Title - main title of the post, * Body - main content of the post, * Permalink - the URL of the full, individual article, * Post Date - date and time the post was published A blog entry optionally includes the following: * Comments - comments added by readers * Category (or tags) - category the post is labeled with (optional, multiple categories possible) * Trackback - links to other sites that refer to the entry A blog site typically contains: * Blogroll - other blogs that the blog author reads/affiliates with On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. snip From Wikipedia entry for blog, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog : A blog entry typically consists of the following: * Title - main title of the post, * Body - main content of the post, * Comments - comments added by readers * Category (or tags) - category the post is labeled with (optional, multiple categories possible) * Blogroll - other blogs that the blog author reads/affiliates with * Permalink - the URL of the full, individual article * Post Date - date and time the post was published * Trackback - links to other sites that refer to the entry Yahoo! Groups Links --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com My most recent post: VLOG SOUP: Episode 11 http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/02/vlog_soup_episo.html You are worth like 50 million danishes. - Amy Carpenter Alternative reply address: stephen.garfield [AT] comcast.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
That was written by an opinionated contributor. It is not the LAW. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Enric wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. snip From Wikipedia entry for blog, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog : Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I'm sorry. You guys are right. I'm too into the Olympics in general to be intellectually cognizant here. Forgive the interruption. And now back to the games - slowly exporting HD Game footage to mp4 on the dual 2.5 GHz antique slow as molasses G5. Moving to Quad this afternoon. Got $2500 cash for this dual 2.5. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Enric wrote: I think it's good that currently established media companies joins in new and developing net media standards. But, words and terms have meaning and defintion, even if that meaning and definitions are developing. To call something other than what it is, confuses things. It doesn't work for someone to be told they're going to watch a rugby game and it turns out to be football. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *love* shiny DVD discs. Doesn't matter what's on 'em, they are shiny shiny!! Well, few people buy DVD's to look at them shine at different angles in the light. Most people buy DVDs because of what's on them, and how they play. If you couldn't use menus or the menus pointed to content other than what they said or had pointers to menus that didn't make sense, etc. it would confuse the buyer. There's a standard and expectation in a technology even if it's not consciously defined. Did I get that right? Content might adapt itself to a medium, hence, the ER Show mobile podcast content is created conceptually different (even had to change the theme music) when it's delivered to a mobile phone. Blogs are, for the record, just one teeny piece of the puzzle. A fraction. There are video blogs that don't have blogs (cuz really, auto-delivery in RSS enclosures does not need a blog). And theoretically, device-to-device personal publishing skips the interweb altogether. If the content looks like a vlog's content, but doesn't hit the web, is it still a vlog? If a word means everything it means nothing. If a word means video, than it's just a simile for video. Don't care. Doesn't matter. It's media made by people-to-people. And, big media, incorporated can do it too. I watch Verdi. I watch MTV. This is the future of my media. And this is the future of my own brand. How many videos could we have posted to (insert-what-the-hell-ever-medium-here) in all the time it takes to argue unproductive issues. The two endeavors: * Developing and applying standards * Making films/video are not contradictory. Or in otherwords, did we get one more person to make video, or collectively do we look like a bunch of jackasses? Standards allow more people to produce and distribute work, that's why it's important to have ANSI for basic things like the character sets we use, IEEE, ISO, W3C (HTML, XML, etc.), et. al. Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, et. al. adopt and proposes new standards so that new software will be developed. Standards leads to more content, because the methods are clear. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com Your call, not mine. I got work to do. Ciao. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga kunga@ wrote: But for me, this has NOTHING to do about content. It's all about the media not the message. You guys are way too hung up on content. I really don't pay taht much attention to the content of anything. I am always paying attention to the form of the media not what's in it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry. You guys are right. I'm too into the Olympics in general to be intellectually cognizant here. Forgive the interruption. And now back to the games - slowly exporting HD Game footage to mp4 on the dual 2.5 GHz antique slow as molasses G5. Moving to Quad this afternoon. Got $2500 cash for this dual 2.5. Congrats! -- Enric -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Enric wrote: I think it's good that currently established media companies joins in new and developing net media standards. But, words and terms have meaning and defintion, even if that meaning and definitions are developing. To call something other than what it is, confuses things. It doesn't work for someone to be told they're going to watch a rugby game and it turns out to be football. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
Jebus--are we really going to do this again? This Define Videoblog thing? I'm not saying definitions aren't important, but y'all have been whacking each other over the head with this forever and no one's mind is going to get changed anytime soon, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Passion is cool...beating a dead horse is pointless. Find a definition you like, hang onto it for awhile, see if it works for you, be excited when it morphs into something new, then go take a nap. Bekah http://missbhavens/blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. etc Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
Although I'm generally anti-vlog definition fight -- I gotta say Josh K and Steve G are right on the money. Debating what kinds of content, etc. are a videoblog is one thing. But just slapping video on a static web site is most certainly NOT a videoblog. By that reasoning, almost every web page would be a blog because it has text. You at least need dated entries of some sort to be a blog format. That's what it *is*. Dated entries in reverse chronological order. Comments and RSS feeds are nice, but those are all bells and whistles. You don't have do enable conversation or offer alternative distribution of your content, but it's nice. :-) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jebus--are we really going to do this again? This Define Videoblog thing? I'm not saying definitions aren't important, but y'all have been whacking each other over the head with this forever and no one's mind is going to get changed anytime soon, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Passion is cool...beating a dead horse is pointless. Find a definition you like, hang onto it for awhile, see if it works for you, be excited when it morphs into something new, then go take a nap. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
I would say Chuck probably has it down fairly well since he spent a few years creating a documentary on blogging. He's been around, talked with a lot of people who were instrumental in developing this medium. The amazing thing about it to me is how its still rapidly evolving. -Josh On 2/13/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm generally anti-vlog definition fight -- I gotta say Josh K and Steve G are right on the money. Debating what kinds of content, etc. are a videoblog is one thing. But just slapping video on a static web site is most certainly NOT a videoblog. By that reasoning, almost every web page would be a blog because it has text. You at least need dated entries of some sort to be a blog format. That's what it *is*. Dated entries in reverse chronological order. Comments and RSS feeds are nice, but those are all bells and whistles. You don't have do enable conversation or offer alternative distribution of your content, but it's nice. :-) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jebus--are we really going to do this again? This Define Videoblog thing? I'm not saying definitions aren't important, but y'all have been whacking each other over the head with this forever and no one's mind is going to get changed anytime soon, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Passion is cool...beating a dead horse is pointless. Find a definition you like, hang onto it for awhile, see if it works for you, be excited when it morphs into something new, then go take a nap. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
Personally, I'm a firm believer in that definition. It's the fighting I can't bear. I'm very sensitive ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm generally anti-vlog definition fight -- I gotta say Josh K and Steve G are right on the money. Debating what kinds of content, etc. are a videoblog is one thing. But just slapping video on a static web site is most certainly NOT a videoblog. By that reasoning, almost every web page would be a blog because it has text. You at least need dated entries of some sort to be a blog format. That's what it *is*. Dated entries in reverse chronological order. Comments and RSS feeds are nice, but those are all bells and whistles. You don't have do enable conversation or offer alternative distribution of your content, but it's nice. :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
guess what... i have NO COMMENT today :)On 2/13/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm generally anti-vlog definition fight -- I gotta say Josh K and Steve G are right on the money.Debating what kinds of content, etc. are a videoblog is one thing. But justslapping video on a static web site is most certainly NOT a videoblog. Bythat reasoning, almost every web page would be a blog because it has text. You at least need dated entries of some sort to be a blog format.That's what it *is*. Dated entries in reverse chronological order.Comments and RSS feeds are nice, but those are all bells and whistles. You don't have do enable conversation or offer alternative distributionof your content, but it's nice. :-)--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jebus--are we really going to do this again? This Define Videoblog thing? I'm notsaying definitions aren't important, but y'all have been whacking each other over the head with this forever and no one's mind is going to get changed anytime soon, and that's notnecessarily a bad thing. Passion is cool...beating a dead horse is pointless. Find a definition you like, hang onto it for awhile, see if it works for you, be excited when it morphs into something new, then go take a nap.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- - - - - Sullhttp://vlogdir.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
Don't be so cocky. Give it time. :)On 2/14/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guess what... i have NO COMMENT today :)On 2/13/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm generally anti-vlog definition fight -- I gotta say Josh K and Steve G are right on the money.Debating what kinds of content, etc. are a videoblog is one thing. But justslapping video on a static web site is most certainly NOT a videoblog. Bythat reasoning, almost every web page would be a blog because it has text. You at least need dated entries of some sort to be a blog format.That's what it *is*. Dated entries in reverse chronological order.Comments and RSS feeds are nice, but those are all bells and whistles. You don't have do enable conversation or offer alternative distributionof your content, but it's nice. :-)--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jebus--are we really going to do this again? This Define Videoblog thing? I'm notsaying definitions aren't important, but y'all have been whacking each other over the head with this forever and no one's mind is going to get changed anytime soon, and that's notnecessarily a bad thing. Passion is cool...beating a dead horse is pointless. Find a definition you like, hang onto it for awhile, see if it works for you, be excited when it morphs into something new, then go take a nap.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- - - - - Sullhttp://vlogdir.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome--again with the videoblog definition argument?
At 17:34 -0500 13/2/06, Michael Sullivan wrote: guess what... i have NO COMMENT today :) Me neither. :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
I might go out on a limb here and guess that since he is using the Flip4Mac he is seeing WMV files play back in Quicktime and assuming that these are native QuickTime files. But I could be wrong. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Direct link to these Quicktime movies you mentioned please. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga kunga@ wrote: Well I guess we have different interpretations of the term video blog. There are definitely Olympian videos not only ads. Profiles of different Olympians with their comments on the games and how they got there are all over that site. There are like 15 second Nissan Xtera ads on the front of them, but I never saw a video that was only an ad. You need to get off the home page and drill down to specific articles all of which have accompanying videos. As for the ability to comment and interact, I'm old school and don't care about that and don't think that is necessarily the criteria for a video blog. To me, a video blog is any site that has video on it that I can play and control and save to my HD. http://nbcolympics.com -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: The whole beauty of putting video into blogs is that it enable a conversation. The conversation can happen when others link to you vlog post via the permalink and talk about it, when viewers talk to you and other viewers in the comments, or when you get an email back about what you have presented. I don't see anything like that here. I click the VIDEO link and am presented with a video playlist. I choose a video, and get an ad for ATT, which when done playing stops. NO olympic video plays. I click play again, and I get the same ATT ad. The only good thing I can say about the ad, is that it's short. Maybe I just totally missed the NBC Olympic Videoblog, if you've got one, send me a permalink to an NBC Olympic video blog post. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
Link to NBC's Olympic Video Blog? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here following NBC's Olympic Video Blog? It's on broadcast HD and they are doing new HD things that have never been done before. Am I the only one here who thinks NBC Olympic coverage is Amazing? -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
