Josh, nice spending time with ya this week, but when you write:
let's cut the guy a break.
He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step.
Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobody
knows what to do here, and paying lawyers to do this gets expensive...
and the
All I'm saying is let's give them the opportunity to make adjustments
now that the issue has been brought up. Its probably not something the
service owners thought much about. Its likely they simply copied it
from somewhere else. Rather than continue to jump on them here, let's
give them the
Hey Guys,
Sorry for the super long post...
I am with YouAreTV, and I wanted to give you a brief on what we are
doing. We actually want to be very different than youtube and google
video. When we first started we wanted to be like all of the companies
out there, but we realized that all of the
Welcome,
Well this is the problem. Some people wont be happy with that. Whilst
they remain they owner of the footage, they give you pretty much the
rights to do whatever you like with that video once they publish it
using your service.
If you got a deal on TV in future, you could show all the
Steve,
Thanks for the input. We'll certainly take a look at our terms.
However, this idea of rights for specific channel and don't touch
my content characteristics of old media companies, and explains why
they attempt the lock distribution channels, google had to develop
their own DRM scheme,
We are neither producers or lawyers. All we want to do is help users
get their video out there. That is our mission.
This is the first time EVER in history that individuals have had the
reach through video that they have had.
Imagine someone reporting from india when the earthquakes happen, or
I didn't read the terms, but however philanthropic it may be, asking people to
sign away
perpetual rights to their content, especially without even having a
conversation, is about
as extreme as it gets in terms of taking advantage and it certainly feels
gross to even
think about.
Is that
I really do hate to get into this over a message board.
But the terms basically say:
1. You have rights to whatever you upload.
2. You will always have those rigthts.
3. The stuff you upload you give YouAreTV NON-EXCLUSIVE rights to
distribute that content.
With Current TV and other sites
I didnt read the agreement in its entirety, but in the bottom half of 'graph 5B the agreement reads:
For clarity,
you shall retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions.
However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouAre.TV, you hereby
grant YouAre.TV a worldwide,
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:31:53 +0100, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I didn't read the terms, but however philanthropic it may be, asking
people to sign away
perpetual rights to their content, especially without even having a
conversation, is about
as extreme as it gets in terms
Perhaps I have misunderstood though it seems you have avoided my question:
1. Do you, youare.tv, get perpetual rights to the material? Yes?
The reason why this is so terrible for the content creator can be illustrated
by the following
example:
This xmas season, a guy made a video of his
Ted,
Right now we don't make any revenue from you videos. This clause helps
us to avoid any user from coming back and sue us saying HEY YOU OWE
ME $XXX. We are taking our terms down temporarily, and will have
counsel edit them to clarify that the model will change once we allow
users to share in
Andrew,
I am not legal, but in this case please keep in mind all we have are
the rights to distribute and edit that content. We don't own the
content itself.
Under our agreement he still would have been able to sell it to the
beer company. Basically he sold the rights to the Beer company to
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, esteban_k2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This clause helps
us to avoid any user from coming back and sue us saying HEY YOU OWE
ME $XXX.
This is just my personal opinion - my personal interpretation:
I don't believe you.
Yahoo! Groups Links
* To
Andrew,
I am not legal, but in this case please keep in mind all we have are
the rights to distribute and edit that content. We don't own the
content itself.
Under our agreement he still would have been able to sell it to the
beer company. Basically he sold the rights to the Beer company to
Well it can be difficult to find the right balance with such terms
conditions. Yours isnt he only service thats been talked about here
for having 'perpetual' and other things in the tc.
I mean you have to make the users grant you some rights or you wouldnt
have the right to distribute their
David -
Your project looks promising. Any service that can raise the
signal-to-noise ratio is welcome in that it is harder and harder to see
everything that is out there. I agree with you that the medium has
changed and the indepenent voice can carry much farther than in the
past, howecer we
Thankfully you have graced us with your presence, now check out the wonderful vid pjkproductions has posted.
http://55broad.video.blip.tv/Pjkproductions-PaulsDream988.mp4
paul
knight
On 13 Jan 2006, at 22:22, Andrew Baron wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, esteban_k2 [EMAIL
We are adding user page perma links, video page perma links, and
individual page permalinks. We are also looking at adding rss feeds
based on keyowrds, favorites and videos. Our goal is to allow you to
Get your video out there.
And when people are on YouAreTV, we want to enable you to create
Hi Esteban,
Where do you saw riots in France ?
I am trying your website and i'll send my opinion to all the french
vloggers
At first i think you have a good concept
Keep rockin'
it's goog for all vloggers
Loiez
http://www.loiez.org
Le 13 janv. 06 à 22:10, esteban_k2 a écrit :
Imagine
graced us? I can see the eye a' rollin all over the place on that one.
But thanks for the nice words. And I really did like the video, very creative.
If you are going
to ask someone to listen to your dreams, you might as well show them right?
As an aside, up until a few weeks ago, I've kept
On 1/13/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After hearing feedback from some of us, I commend you for taking your ToS under review, and will continue to watch your site develop.
I'm with Ted on this one. I'm no fan of all-rights TOS's, but I'm glad you're engaging in the dialog and
You think it, nurse it, produce it and, if you so choose to, upload to this services you lose all of your rights to your creation?"YouAre.TV a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully paid-up, royalty-free,irrevocable, perpetual, sublicenseable and transferable license touse, reproduce, distribute,
Okay all... this is great feedback, but seriously let's cut the guy a break.
He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step.
Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobody
knows what to do here, and paying lawyers to do this gets expensive...
and the lawyers can
i agree. On 1/13/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay all... this is great feedback, but seriously let's cut the guy a break.He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step.Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobodyknows what to do here, and
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