Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
Looks to me that the hashtag most people are using on Twitter now is #vlomo09 So perhaps our tag recommendation should be that we all use vlomo09. On 22-Oct-09, at 1:26 PM, David King wrote: Hey - just the librarian in me showing it's ugly head :-) David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: yes. search. the way most people navigate the web. and what i do for a living. oops. you're right. both is a good way to go, i guess... :) On 22-Oct-09, at 1:20 PM, David King wrote: It's just a slightly easier way to keep track of things that happened that year. So if there are 3-4 years of navlopomo, and you search for that tag, you get everything. But if you search for navlopomo09, you would just find the stuff happening in 2009 (assuming eeryone used the tag). I'm ambivalent - heck, use BOTH tags, and you're covered both ways! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
It's just a slightly easier way to keep track of things that happened that year. So if there are 3-4 years of navlopomo, and you search for that tag, you get everything. But if you search for navlopomo09, you would just find the stuff happening in 2009 (assuming eeryone used the tag). I'm ambivalent - heck, use BOTH tags, and you're covered both ways! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
yes. search. the way most people navigate the web. and what i do for a living. oops. you're right. both is a good way to go, i guess... :) On 22-Oct-09, at 1:20 PM, David King wrote: It's just a slightly easier way to keep track of things that happened that year. So if there are 3-4 years of navlopomo, and you search for that tag, you get everything. But if you search for navlopomo09, you would just find the stuff happening in 2009 (assuming eeryone used the tag). I'm ambivalent - heck, use BOTH tags, and you're covered both ways! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
Hey - just the librarian in me showing it's ugly head :-) David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: yes. search. the way most people navigate the web. and what i do for a living. oops. you're right. both is a good way to go, i guess... :) On 22-Oct-09, at 1:20 PM, David King wrote: It's just a slightly easier way to keep track of things that happened that year. So if there are 3-4 years of navlopomo, and you search for that tag, you get everything. But if you search for navlopomo09, you would just find the stuff happening in 2009 (assuming eeryone used the tag). I'm ambivalent - heck, use BOTH tags, and you're covered both ways! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
...that is a great moment...showing... Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 9:01:30 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 I love that coffeeblog that you linked to, that inspired and moved you: http://momentshowin g.typepad. com/momentshowin g/images/ coffeeblog. mov classic jay extreme close up pulling back and round to wide shot. an eye that sees beautiful little and big things everywhere. one of my favourite jay shots comes at the end of this video http://tinyurl. com/crazyarms which i can never resist the opportunity to link to from ant to shoe to walking down a three lane highway sidewalk, after the sudden end of the music. kills me, every time. On 22-Oct-09, at 1:39 AM, Adam Warner wrote: http://oneeyedview. com/ode-to- jay-dedman Adam W. Warner Learn Web Tools _ _ __ _ _ __ From: Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail. com To: videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Although it looks like I have the day after Dedman, so I'm kind of hoping to see a 14 minute in-depth meditation on a single slug. Im going to make you work for it. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman. com http://twitter. com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
1 minute is a very nice constraint, might have missed conversation but others: size? format? do we care? On 22/10/2009, at 2:11 AM, Rupert Howe wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? cheers adrian miles
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
with all due respect to the services... i say fuck'em all. if needed, i will create a page with a player and playlist. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Yes - I thought we could do this with a Blip playlist and player with browsable list of videos on the right hand side. Have two embeddable players - one during November that shows the latest video at the top, and one for afterwards that plays through all the videos in chronological sequence. I think Blip's playlist player is nicer than YouTube, and it plays H264 videos in their original format without conversion, whereas YouTube still crunches quality even in HQ mode . Just today Kath and I were wrangling with YouTube because it was unnecessarily buggering up thin animated lines in a video she'd made, even using their recommended upload settings. That said, though, it would also be great to have these on YouTube. I'm using YouTube annotations for another similar game I'm doing at the moment. I've recently started using Pixelpipe to easily upload to multiple sharing services at once. Makes it easy to upload to Blip, YouTube, Facebook, Myspace, Vimeo, Viddler, Flickr, Blogs - pretty much anywhere. On 20-Oct-09, at 11:22 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Rupert, If everyone posts thier video to YouTube, you could make a playlist and add a new video everyday. Then you could play them in sequence with the contols that allow skiping ahead. --Steve --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: H YEAH! Brilliant. Every date is now taken - unless anybody drops out or needs to change, in which case please say so here as soon as possible. Adrian, I've left you at the start. Roll on November 1st! R On 20-Oct-09, at 1:03 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Nov 29th --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote: Yup - no conflicts so far - it's all first come first served - will put into the Calendar whoever replies here with a date. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal On 19-Oct-09, at 11:08 PM, ernmander wrote: I'll go for the 18th if it's free :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@ wrote: I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaumont@ I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
i love rupert. just needed to put that out there. carry on. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: i can see advantages and disadvantages of adding more people formally on certain dates. And I'm reluctant to be the Dungeon Master here :) on the one hand there's a simplicity in the idea of a single chain of 30 videos. for this game. on the other hand, NaVloPoMo is an open month of making videos, and should be kept wide open - it's great when a whole bunch of people make videos responding to one thing. but i think we can have both. this game has a closed structure of the 30 dates with people definitely signed up to do videos on those dates - but that doesn't stop anybody who wants to responding to any of the videos at any time. i mean, i think it would be good if those people who have signed up would make a video that is influenced or inspired by the person who's signed up to do it on the day before. to keep the chain. but of course other people can also join in, responding to videos and maybe even starting their own tangential threads and conversations. I'd quite like to do that myself throughout the month. then the people who are signed up can respond to those other videos *as well as* the video they're scheduled to follow in this game. after all, we haven't defined the way that one video might inspire the next - people can respond to any element of a video - and they don't have to explain themselves, so it'll probably get pretty abstract in places. which provides room for all kinds of connections with multiple videos, not just one. So - yeah - don't feel like you have to only make one video next month if you want to make more - and don't feel like you can't play if you didn't bagsy a date before they were all taken. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 10:12 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: could we double up on days so everyone can play? maybe the person on the next day could choose one of the two or be inspired by both? 2009/10/21 Richard (Show) Hall rich...@richardshow.orgrichard%40richardshow.org All taken ... how sad :( ...richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
agreed. previous years, it was just like trying to watch as many videos as you could because they were all posted in novemember. madness! and posting a video each day? no thanks. a week is ok. a month is not. not for me at least. but i tend to not want to post any old raw video. i've done it, but dont like doing it. i really wanted a smaller subset pool of videos/people to focus on. like reminiscent of 2004/2005 videoblogger days. that was a special time of net video realization where it got more social. i was posting video to blog posts since 2002. but not until i joined this mailing list in 2004 did the social element really get interesting to me. that time quickly ended as the online video boom emerged. and i've always missed it. NaVloPoMo as per Rupert's initiative is a perfect way to get some of that spirit back. 11/11 sull[eleven] On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. I've enjoyed the challenge for the last two years - even if I was only 75% successful each time. Last year, though, I realised that finding time to make a video every day for a month was interfering with my enjoyment of watching responding to other people's videos. Especially with new baby and new job in a new house and new country. In the end, finding the time was causing too much stress, so I stopped. This year, with all the things I'm supposed to be doing for other people, there's no way I could let myself even start to do the daily challenge. So I thought that, instead of doing nothing, I'd like to suggest a small game that would build on the community/collaboration part of NaVloPoMo. Hopefully, I'll find some time to post quite a few other videos, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 6:28 PM, Juan John Cardenas wrote: cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Drpoulette%40gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009- �from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
shh! my wife will hear! On 21-Oct-09, at 9:13 AM, sull wrote: i love rupert. just needed to put that out there. carry on. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: i can see advantages and disadvantages of adding more people formally on certain dates. And I'm reluctant to be the Dungeon Master here :) on the one hand there's a simplicity in the idea of a single chain of 30 videos. for this game. on the other hand, NaVloPoMo is an open month of making videos, and should be kept wide open - it's great when a whole bunch of people make videos responding to one thing. but i think we can have both. this game has a closed structure of the 30 dates with people definitely signed up to do videos on those dates - but that doesn't stop anybody who wants to responding to any of the videos at any time. i mean, i think it would be good if those people who have signed up would make a video that is influenced or inspired by the person who's signed up to do it on the day before. to keep the chain. but of course other people can also join in, responding to videos and maybe even starting their own tangential threads and conversations. I'd quite like to do that myself throughout the month. then the people who are signed up can respond to those other videos *as well as* the video they're scheduled to follow in this game. after all, we haven't defined the way that one video might inspire the next - people can respond to any element of a video - and they don't have to explain themselves, so it'll probably get pretty abstract in places. which provides room for all kinds of connections with multiple videos, not just one. So - yeah - don't feel like you have to only make one video next month if you want to make more - and don't feel like you can't play if you didn't bagsy a date before they were all taken. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 10:12 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: could we double up on days so everyone can play? maybe the person on the next day could choose one of the two or be inspired by both? 2009/10/21 Richard (Show) Hall rich...@richardshow.orgrichard %40richardshow.org All taken ... how sad :( ...richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
I'm going to attempt a video each day + the community game. I think I'll manage 1 a week + game-day in reality :) but I'm going to use it as an excuse/project to try learn more processing or maybe modul8 or isadora. they might be quick 12seconds.tv duration tests/samples though. other years I got all days done but sometimes I caught up later due to work hours, and I found I was often posting same sort of stuff just because I was meant to post a video. I was sometimes away from my computer so didn't have s/w I wanted to play in so they ended up as drive-to-work or hotel videos ;) am looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with. running 2 projects sounds like a great solution. thanks again Rupert for helping me with the youtube uploads! was driving me crazy how it drops the res so much I didn't know it could take divx work better - learnt a lot! kath [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? On 21-Oct-09, at 2:10 PM, proctorjen wrote: Make it one minute! A good challenge, not too terribly long when all put together. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King davidleek...@... wrote: I think around 3 minutes or less is good. Just make it good. Agree - 3 min or less is a nice loose time constraint. Shorter tends to be better, just enough to cover your idea. I'm thinking that having one video inspire the next is enough of a subject/theme constraint, that we don't need to introduce a subject/ theme at the beginning? agreed. I imagine a carp caviar vibe. everything fits. we'll all push each other. It should be pretty interesting to see all the videos at once - it'll be a type of loose story, or one just inspiration flowing into the next (which will be cool too). I'm smiling, thinking of the childhood game of whispering a phrase, passing it along 31 times, then seeing what comes out the other end :-) Should be a great month! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
which tag are we going to use? pepa garcía http://teleperra.tumblr.com http://pepa.tv http://twitter.com/pepa 2009/10/21 Kath O'Donnell alia...@gmail.com I'm going to attempt a video each day + the community game. I think I'll manage 1 a week + game-day in reality :) but I'm going to use it as an excuse/project to try learn more processing or maybe modul8 or isadora. they might be quick 12seconds.tv duration tests/samples though. other years I got all days done but sometimes I caught up later due to work hours, and I found I was often posting same sort of stuff just because I was meant to post a video. I was sometimes away from my computer so didn't have s/w I wanted to play in so they ended up as drive-to-work or hotel videos ;) am looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with. running 2 projects sounds like a great solution. thanks again Rupert for helping me with the youtube uploads! was driving me crazy how it drops the res so much I didn't know it could take divx work better - learnt a lot! kath [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
Any other views on specific length? On 21-Oct-09, at 4:22 PM, Jay dedman wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
A compromise might be 90 seconds. Flickr's maximum video length. Whatever that means. On 21-Oct-09, at 9:07 PM, deirdreharvey2002 wrote: On 21-Oct-09, at 4:22 PM, Jay dedman wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Which is going to present its own challenges, given that we're taking inspiration from the video from the day before! Also for those of us on GMT, we'll likely be getting vids at 5am to inspire us for the next day's work. Although I guess we'll have cumulative inspiration from all the videos posted to that point. Excited. I also agree with 1-2 minute videos. 1 minute might be better, so the final compilation is 30 minutes rather than a full hour. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
I have to admit, I've always struggled to do anything shorter than about 2-3 minutes. I can easily run to 10 minutes without any trouble. It will really be a challenge if I have to do a 60, 90 or 120 second video. Whatever the final time limit is, I will probably put a timer in the corner, counting down to 0. Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 A compromise might be 90 seconds. Flickr's maximum video length. Whatever that means. On 21-Oct-09, at 9:07 PM, deirdreharvey2002 wrote: On 21-Oct-09, at 4:22 PM, Jay dedman wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Which is going to present its own challenges, given that we're taking inspiration from the video from the day before! Also for those of us on GMT, we'll likely be getting vids at 5am to inspire us for the next day's work. Although I guess we'll have cumulative inspiration from all the videos posted to that point. Excited. I also agree with 1-2 minute videos. 1 minute might be better, so the final compilation is 30 minutes rather than a full hour. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
For the sake of anyone planning to watch all 30 videos, it would be merciful for us all to limit ourselves to 90 seconds. It will also be easier for the next day's producer to ingest and digest a 90 second video for inspiration rather than a 6 or 10 minute one. Although it looks like I have the day after Dedman, so I'm kind of hoping to see a 14 minute in-depth meditation on a single slug. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:10 PM, mgmoon mgm...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the length of the video is irrelevant to the challenge. Some will produce short clips, others may have a whole production planned. Let loose the reigns that bind the creators. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Any other views on specific length? On 21-Oct-09, at 4:22 PM, Jay dedman wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Although it looks like I have the day after Dedman, so I'm kind of hoping to see a 14 minute in-depth meditation on a single slug. Im going to make you work for it. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo
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http://oneeyedview.com/ode-to-jay-dedman Adam W. Warner Learn Web Tools From: Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Although it looks like I have the day after Dedman, so I'm kind of hoping to see a 14 minute in-depth meditation on a single slug. Im going to make you work for it. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman. com http://twitter. com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I love that coffeeblog that you linked to, that inspired and moved you: http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/images/coffeeblog.mov classic jay extreme close up pulling back and round to wide shot. an eye that sees beautiful little and big things everywhere. one of my favourite jay shots comes at the end of this video http://tinyurl.com/crazyarms which i can never resist the opportunity to link to from ant to shoe to walking down a three lane highway sidewalk, after the sudden end of the music. kills me, every time. On 22-Oct-09, at 1:39 AM, Adam Warner wrote: http://oneeyedview.com/ode-to-jay-dedman Adam W. Warner Learn Web Tools From: Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Although it looks like I have the day after Dedman, so I'm kind of hoping to see a 14 minute in-depth meditation on a single slug. Im going to make you work for it. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman. com http://twitter. com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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alternatively, you could post a scooter journey every day in November :) On 22-Oct-09, at 3:00 AM, taoofdavid65 wrote: woops...I think I missed this. It'll be fun being an innocent bystander and watching the output :) David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: I'm confused about the whole adding-the-year-onto-everything thing. my twitter stream is full of weird conference abbreviations with 09 at the end. seems to me that the things being tagged in Navlopomo will have their own dates anyway - whether videos or blog posts. and it's already a long word. can we not just do navlopomo as the tag and #navlopomo as the hashtag? am i missing a scenario in which the 09 is vital, or is it a case of it conforming with good tag standards...? On 22-Oct-09, at 2:03 AM, David King wrote: Navlopomo09 David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: which tag are we going to use? Navlopomo Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'll take the 24th. Thanks, Frank. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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25th? or i could do the 29th at a push. Trine On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Frank Carver frank.car...@googlemail.comwrote: I'll take the 24th. Thanks, Frank. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- twitter.com/trine [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Marvellous! V glad you'll be ending it :) There's now only 1 slot left - the 29th. On 20-Oct-09, at 12:22 PM, Mary wrote: I'll take Monday Nov. 30th. Mary Matthews Videopancakes.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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H YEAH! Brilliant. Every date is now taken - unless anybody drops out or needs to change, in which case please say so here as soon as possible. Adrian, I've left you at the start. Roll on November 1st! R On 20-Oct-09, at 1:03 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Nov 29th --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Yup - no conflicts so far - it's all first come first served - will put into the Calendar whoever replies here with a date. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal On 19-Oct-09, at 11:08 PM, ernmander wrote: I'll go for the 18th if it's free :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@ wrote: I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaumont@ I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009-�from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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All taken ... how sad :( ...richard On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Mary mcmpr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take Monday Nov. 30th. Mary Matthews Videopancakes.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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could we double up on days so everyone can play? maybe the person on the next day could choose one of the two or be inspired by both? 2009/10/21 Richard (Show) Hall rich...@richardshow.org All taken ... how sad :( ...richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yes - I thought we could do this with a Blip playlist and player with browsable list of videos on the right hand side. Have two embeddable players - one during November that shows the latest video at the top, and one for afterwards that plays through all the videos in chronological sequence. I think Blip's playlist player is nicer than YouTube, and it plays H264 videos in their original format without conversion, whereas YouTube still crunches quality even in HQ mode . Just today Kath and I were wrangling with YouTube because it was unnecessarily buggering up thin animated lines in a video she'd made, even using their recommended upload settings. That said, though, it would also be great to have these on YouTube. I'm using YouTube annotations for another similar game I'm doing at the moment. I've recently started using Pixelpipe to easily upload to multiple sharing services at once. Makes it easy to upload to Blip, YouTube, Facebook, Myspace, Vimeo, Viddler, Flickr, Blogs - pretty much anywhere. On 20-Oct-09, at 11:22 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Rupert, If everyone posts thier video to YouTube, you could make a playlist and add a new video everyday. Then you could play them in sequence with the contols that allow skiping ahead. --Steve --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: H YEAH! Brilliant. Every date is now taken - unless anybody drops out or needs to change, in which case please say so here as soon as possible. Adrian, I've left you at the start. Roll on November 1st! R On 20-Oct-09, at 1:03 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Nov 29th --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote: Yup - no conflicts so far - it's all first come first served - will put into the Calendar whoever replies here with a date. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal On 19-Oct-09, at 11:08 PM, ernmander wrote: I'll go for the 18th if it's free :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@ wrote: I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaumont@ I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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i can see advantages and disadvantages of adding more people formally on certain dates. And I'm reluctant to be the Dungeon Master here :) on the one hand there's a simplicity in the idea of a single chain of 30 videos. for this game. on the other hand, NaVloPoMo is an open month of making videos, and should be kept wide open - it's great when a whole bunch of people make videos responding to one thing. but i think we can have both. this game has a closed structure of the 30 dates with people definitely signed up to do videos on those dates - but that doesn't stop anybody who wants to responding to any of the videos at any time. i mean, i think it would be good if those people who have signed up would make a video that is influenced or inspired by the person who's signed up to do it on the day before. to keep the chain. but of course other people can also join in, responding to videos and maybe even starting their own tangential threads and conversations. I'd quite like to do that myself throughout the month. then the people who are signed up can respond to those other videos *as well as* the video they're scheduled to follow in this game. after all, we haven't defined the way that one video might inspire the next - people can respond to any element of a video - and they don't have to explain themselves, so it'll probably get pretty abstract in places.which provides room for all kinds of connections with multiple videos, not just one. So - yeah - don't feel like you have to only make one video next month if you want to make more - and don't feel like you can't play if you didn't bagsy a date before they were all taken. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 10:12 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: could we double up on days so everyone can play? maybe the person on the next day could choose one of the two or be inspired by both? 2009/10/21 Richard (Show) Hall rich...@richardshow.org All taken ... how sad :( ...richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. I've enjoyed the challenge for the last two years - even if I was only 75% successful each time. Last year, though, I realised that finding time to make a video every day for a month was interfering with my enjoyment of watching responding to other people's videos. Especially with new baby and new job in a new house and new country. In the end, finding the time was causing too much stress, so I stopped. This year, with all the things I'm supposed to be doing for other people, there's no way I could let myself even start to do the daily challenge. So I thought that, instead of doing nothing, I'd like to suggest a small game that would build on the community/collaboration part of NaVloPoMo. Hopefully, I'll find some time to post quite a few other videos, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 6:28 PM, Juan John Cardenas wrote: cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009- �from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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November is presenting it's own peculiar challenge for me. Here's my November. 1. Do one blog post (text) every day on Viewpoint 2. Do one video blog post every day on Viewpoint 3. Do one tweet every day on my twitter feed. 4. Do my contribution to the community NaVloPoMo on the 14th. I have absolutely no idea if I'll succeed in this. Doing a week of posts was tough enough back in April. But I'm up for a challenge. Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. I've enjoyed the challenge for the last two years - even if I was only 75% successful each time. Last year, though, I realised that finding time to make a video every day for a month was interfering with my enjoyment of watching responding to other people's videos. Especially with new baby and new job in a new house and new country. In the end, finding the time was causing too much stress, so I stopped. This year, with all the things I'm supposed to be doing for other people, there's no way I could let myself even start to do the daily challenge. So I thought that, instead of doing nothing, I'd like to suggest a small game that would build on the community/collaboration part of NaVloPoMo. Hopefully, I'll find some time to post quite a few other videos, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 6:28 PM, Juan John Cardenas wrote: cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009- �from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I've noticed that most people (myself included) crap out three quarters of the way through - within sight of the end. Expect confusion, stress and demotivation around the 21st, 22nd or 23rd. If you can get past that... You can do it! On 21-Oct-09, at 1:01 AM, Ian Beaumont wrote: November is presenting it's own peculiar challenge for me. Here's my November. 1. Do one blog post (text) every day on Viewpoint 2. Do one video blog post every day on Viewpoint 3. Do one tweet every day on my twitter feed. 4. Do my contribution to the community NaVloPoMo on the 14th. I have absolutely no idea if I'll succeed in this. Doing a week of posts was tough enough back in April. But I'm up for a challenge. Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. I've enjoyed the challenge for the last two years - even if I was only 75% successful each time. Last year, though, I realised that finding time to make a video every day for a month was interfering with my enjoyment of watching responding to other people's videos. Especially with new baby and new job in a new house and new country. In the end, finding the time was causing too much stress, so I stopped. This year, with all the things I'm supposed to be doing for other people, there's no way I could let myself even start to do the daily challenge. So I thought that, instead of doing nothing, I'd like to suggest a small game that would build on the community/collaboration part of NaVloPoMo. Hopefully, I'll find some time to post quite a few other videos, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 6:28 PM, Juan John Cardenas wrote: cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009- �from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. Maybe someone else can start another calendar for November. We could have two groups projects if there were enough people into it. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'll take the 6th unless a real vlogger wants it :) On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Mike Atherton Saying the wrong thing since 1972 Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong http://www.sizemore.co.uk http://twitter.com/sizemore [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaum...@virgin.net I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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gworn then, pick a date! On 19-Oct-09, at 10:55 PM, ernmander wrote: What a fabulous idea. Real great idea. Sounds like huge fun http://www.ernmander.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yup - no conflicts so far - it's all first come first served - will put into the Calendar whoever replies here with a date. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal On 19-Oct-09, at 11:08 PM, ernmander wrote: I'll go for the 18th if it's free :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell alia...@... wrote: I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaum...@... I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Given your impending exam, I figure even the mighty Mike Moon wouldn't be able to keep up a 30 day posting schedule... :) On 20-Oct-09, at 2:12 AM, mgmoon wrote: I'll take November 22. Sounds like a great idea. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ill clean up after the new Brit and take Nov 19. Jay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Given your impending exam, I figure even the mighty Mike Moon wouldn't be able to keep up a 30 day posting schedule... :) On 20-Oct-09, at 2:12 AM, mgmoon wrote: I'll take November 22. Sounds like a great idea. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Oops replied to Rupert not the group - if the 27th is open I'll take it! Brook On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Ill clean up after the new Brit and take Nov 19. Jay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tvrupert%40twittervlog.tv wrote: Given your impending exam, I figure even the mighty Mike Moon wouldn't be able to keep up a 30 day posting schedule... :) On 20-Oct-09, at 2:12 AM, mgmoon wrote: I'll take November 22. Sounds like a great idea. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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It's yours! On 20-Oct-09, at 2:54 AM, Brook Hinton wrote: Oops replied to Rupert not the group - if the 27th is open I'll take it! Brook On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Ill clean up after the new Brit and take Nov 19. Jay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tvrupert%40twittervlog.tv wrote: Given your impending exam, I figure even the mighty Mike Moon wouldn't be able to keep up a 30 day posting schedule... :) On 20-Oct-09, at 2:12 AM, mgmoon wrote: I'll take November 22. Sounds like a great idea. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Nice. Six slots left. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal I'm off to bed. I imagine that everyone's too shy to choose the End. So it'll be left to whoever is last. That's OK, I think. I thought about suggesting that all the participants submit a video for the final day. Or asking if anybody wanted to do a big mashup of the whole month. But that seems a bit much to ask. What do you all think? And do you think there should be any other constraints? Time, maybe. Perhaps there should be a 2 minute limit, so the whole thing is watchable in an hour? Or 1 min or 3 mins? I'm thinking that it can be embedded as a playlist in a Blip Show Player, and torrented as a group of files or a DVD. I'm thinking that having one video inspire the next is enough of a subject/theme constraint, that we don't need to introduce a subject/ theme at the beginning? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 2:34 AM, Jay dedman wrote: Ill clean up after the new Brit and take Nov 19. Jay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Given your impending exam, I figure even the mighty Mike Moon wouldn't be able to keep up a 30 day posting schedule... :) On 20-Oct-09, at 2:12 AM, mgmoon wrote: I'll take November 22. Sounds like a great idea. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I thought about suggesting that all the participants submit a video for the final day. Or asking if anybody wanted to do a big mashup of the whole month. But that seems a bit much to ask. What do you all think? I think itll all make sense when we get there. maybe itll just be a big free for all. And do you think there should be any other constraints? Time, maybe. Perhaps there should be a 2 minute limit, so the whole thing is watchable in an hour? Or 1 min or 3 mins? I'm thinking that it can be embedded as a playlist in a Blip Show Player, and torrented as a group of files or a DVD. I think around 3 minutes or less is good. Just make it good. I'm thinking that having one video inspire the next is enough of a subject/theme constraint, that we don't need to introduce a subject/ theme at the beginning? agreed. I imagine a carp caviar vibe. everything fits. we'll all push each other. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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I think around 3 minutes or less is good. Just make it good. Agree - 3 min or less is a nice loose time constraint. Shorter tends to be better, just enough to cover your idea. I'm thinking that having one video inspire the next is enough of a subject/theme constraint, that we don't need to introduce a subject/ theme at the beginning? agreed. I imagine a carp caviar vibe. everything fits. we'll all push each other. It should be pretty interesting to see all the videos at once - it'll be a type of loose story, or one just inspiration flowing into the next (which will be cool too). I'm smiling, thinking of the childhood game of whispering a phrase, passing it along 31 times, then seeing what comes out the other end :-) Should be a great month! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
