will say there are more expensive apps that do less but again I’ve never seen the community so united. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Grant HardySent: Sunday, March 31, 2024 4:47 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hi
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No one in the
: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hi Arnold, None of these would happen. Nothing that dramatic would occur. What Apple could do is simply reject their update and tell them to fix the app so functionality isn't taken away from previous customers. The Apple review team rejects many
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s.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hi Dennis, I was actually surprised that they came on Jonathan's podcast, and to me, that says a lot that they did. Plus, the developer did admit that they handled things in the wrong way and actually apologized for it
, April 3, 2024 2:38 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader They're absolutely violating the guidelines, the guidelines explicitly state to not do what they're doing. The only question is whether it will be noticed or acted upon. I could
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They're absolutely violating the guidelines, the guidelines explicitly state to
not do what they're doing. The only question is whether it will be noticed or
acted upon. I could see it going
@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Grant HardySent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 3:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hey Richard, If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules’ and ‘guidelines’ is a bit pedantic. The App Store
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Hey Christopher, I’m a little bit confused by what you are saying. If Voice Dream Reader’s developer grandfathered in existing users, didn’t provide us
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>>>>>> As you read through that, when you get to the line that says, try the 14
>>>>>> day trial or something like that, it doesn’t say it is a link or butt
seen the community so united. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Grant HardySent: Sunday, March 31, 2024 4:47 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hi Arnold, None of these would happen. Nothing that dramatic would occur. What
hrough that, when you get to the line that says, try the
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>>>> but if you double tap on that, it takes you to the app store where you can
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>>>>> I took Dennis’s advice and made a donation to listen to Jonathan
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Richard I do agree with you I do
: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Brilliant—thanks Feliciano, Richard, Dennis and everyone else who replied. I
did "report a problem" several days ago in the App Store but I think Apple just
uses that for internal purposes. I'll file feedback through the deve
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Feliciano Godoy
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Hi all,
If anyone wants to bring up these concerns, I believe that it is better done
through Apple then on these list. It's fairly easy
.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Grant
Hardy
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I absolutely agree, I follow Jonathan's fantastic podcast and advocacy work and
I'm really glad to see
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I absolutely agree, I follow Jonathan's fantastic podcast and advocacy work and
I'm really glad to see him adding his voice about this issue. I think this
developer
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> state to not do what they're doing. The on
: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
They're absolutely violating the guidelines, the guidelines explicitly state to
not do what they're doing. The only question is whether it will be noticed or
acted upon. I could see it going either way.
Grant Hardy
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Hey Richard,
If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules
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Hardy
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Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hey Richard,
If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Grant
Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hey Richard,
If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules’ and ‘guidelines’ is a
bit pedanti
Hey Richard,
If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules’ and ‘guidelines’
is a bit pedantic. The App Store review guidelines at
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ do also use the
term “rule” frequently throughout the text. For example, they say, “We hope
these
People have been quoting an Apple guideline for Developers concerning Voice
Dream Reader changing to a subscription model and changing people's access to
new content etc.
I decided to look at definitions. Here is the Marium Webster dictionary
definition of "Guidelines:"
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ChaffinSent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 10:36 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader Hi Grant, I agree that not being able to add more to the VDR library is not leaving the app to function the same way. But a couple of thoughts. 1, Since
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On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2024 10:12 PM
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Hey Christopher, I’m a little bit confused by what you are saying. If Voi
ain at Outlook, USA
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Long
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 8:19 AM
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I agree it isn’t sustainable to expect a $10 purchase for 10 years ago to keep
the app go
> have a point about these guidelines, and I think you should definitely
>> raise it with the developers and Apple. ,I know I may keep using the app if
>> this all works out. If not, I’ve already gotten my money’s worth from Voice
>> Dream, and I’ve already started using alternatives
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Hey Christopher, I’m a little bit confused by what you are saying. If Voice Dream Rea
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Hey Christopher, I’m a little bit confused by what you are saying. If Voice
Dream Reader’s developer grandfathered in existing users, didn’t provide us
with any upda
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Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hi Arnold,
None of these would happen. Nothing that dramatic would occur. What Apple could
do is simply reject their update
gt;>>>> can choose to subscribe and get 2 weeks free if you were a one-time
>>>>> purchaser. I don’t know what you get if you are a new subscriber.
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r 30, 2024 at 6:01 PM Richard Turner
>>>>>> mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I took Dennis’s advice and made a donation to listen to Jonathan
>>>>>>> interviewing Kishin Manglani from the Applause Group.
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sers.
>>>>
>>>> As you read through that, when you get to the line that says, try the
>>>> 14 day trial or something like that, it doesn’t say it is a link or button,
>>>> but if you double tap on that, it takes you to the app store where you can
>&
nto the Voice Dream Reader app and
>>>>>> double tap on settings, then on subscription, it brings up the post
>>>>>> titled Pricing Changes for One-Time Purchasers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you read through that, when you get to the
Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 11:47 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Drea
ce that
>>> seems to be called Stripe or something; whatever Jonathan said, the
>>> Applause Group gets a higher cut of the payment than if you go through the
>>> app store.
>>>
>>> I don’t know if people realize, that whatever price you pay for an app
gt;> They will be offering a monthly option in the not too distant future.
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>> Richard, USA
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>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less
>> than a disaster. Either you're g
nis LongSent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 11:47 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader You can subscribe to livingly blindfully plus for just 60 American cents and get access today or wait 3 days. I strongly encourage you to lis
up through the app store.
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>>> HTH,
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>>> Richard, USA
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t; On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 11:47 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader You can subscribe to livingly blindfully plus for just 60 American cents and get access today or wait 3 days. I strongly encourage you
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> and get access today or wait 3 days. I strongly encourage you to listen to
> it. I do think the Voicedream team does care and value our feedback.
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On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 10:00 PM
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I agree with their communication issues. I just wrote them and recommended
they start their own email discussion list. The one
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Subject: RE: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
I took Dennis’s advice and made a donation to listen to Jonathan interviewing
Kishin Manglani from the Applause Group.
It is very much worth listening to. It is
agree they care.
I’m considering the monthly option.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
I took Dennis’s advice and made a donation
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Irons
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Hello eve
, March 30, 2024 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hello everybody I believe that we just have to except what do people with voice
dream reader want to do. That developers are totally free to increase prices or
make free
or to switch to a subscription model then that is entirely
their decision.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hey guys,
If you
: siegh...@live.ca
Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hello Sieghard,
Developer guideline 3.1.2(a) Permissible uses, states, in part:
If you are changing your existing app to a subscription-based business model,
you should not take away the primary
ncrease the price for their app or to charge something for a previously
>> free app or to switch to a subscription model then that is entirely their
>> decision.
>>
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>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of
>> *Grant
>> Hardy
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: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader
Hey guys,
If you search for Voice Dream Reader on the App Store, open the page for the
app, and scroll down, there is an option to "report a problem". Pleas
Hi again,
Apologies, but after listening to Jonathan's take on this, it seems like
support is advising users that this week's update was only a warning, and
that the update which removes functionality won't be released until May. In
that case, I apologize for the misinformation and it may be
Hey guys,
If you search for Voice Dream Reader on the App Store, open the page for
the app, and scroll down, there is an option to "report a problem". Please
consider reporting what the developer is doing to Apple. I am not sure if
it violates any developer guidelines, but it sure seems like it
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