Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

I believe there comes a point at which a company's updates of its products hit the law of diminishing returns, and either don't improve anything or actively make the product worse. I think Apple has hit that point. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Kathy Brandt

Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

This thing with how the emoji keyboard is now sounding in keyboards is just something else to deal with, besides how they changed the sound of the up-and-down volume buttons, and earlier, the way FaceTime sounds when you make a call, and hell now, on the iPod touch with FaceTime, you have to be

Logitech keyboard

Good morning all; a friend of mine got herself a Logitech k480 keyboard, I no there's been discussion on this keyboard, does anyone have the layout of the keyboard? preferably the top row, and the buttons to the right and left of spacebar. also any other useful information. In advance, thanks

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Same here. It is strange. Godwin Adoyi Agada Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa. (Sent from my iPhone) From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:36:20 AM To:

Re: Logitech keyboard

AI believe the VO keys are one left of the space bar--command, then option, then ctrl, then function. Pressing VO+K, VoiceOver will speak the functions of most of the keys. The top row, however, is a bit of a mystery. There is a home key far to the right, and one maybe second from the left.

the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

Has anyone in the United States tried the Schwan's Food Delivery app lately? It isn't perfect now by any means, but it sure is much better than it was earlier. For, so far at least, I've been able to do pretty much everything I've tried with the app, including reading product preparation

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Kelby, Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used. Very odd. indeed. Richard “The secret is not to make

Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

Not all change is good, sure. But not all change is bad, either. The volume sound now used has been used on the Mac for a long while. Bugs are there, yes, but they’re there for sighted users as well. It is not just us, so don’t feel persecuted against. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:10 AM, kelby

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize the problem either or Samantha. Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of choice. > On Apr 11,

Re: the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

Yes, the schwans app has become a lot more accessible with the latest update. I too can read the preparation instructions as well as search for what I want as well as put an order in. Lelia Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:38 AM, Vicky Collins wrote: > >

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is spelled the same as before: e m o j i. It seems to be saying

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Hello, I have noticed the issue when I use Tom as my voice. I do not notice it when I use other voices like Alex. Greg Wocher > On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right? > This

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Thank God for this thread; now I can stop searching for what it was I did to initiate this strange pronunciation of “Emoji." - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin - "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from man." - US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

That's odd. I'm not noticing this. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when > just using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Yep, definitely on the current version. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right? > This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3. > > Richard > > > > “The

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Richard, I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is so much enthusiasm there.) I just checked the keyboard again and it pronounces the word emoji normally. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr

Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

with a slight hearing loss, I love the new volume sounds! On 4/11/18, Devin Prater wrote: > Not all change is good, sure. But not all change is bad, either. The volume > sound now used has been used on the Mac for a long while. Bugs are there, > yes, but they’re there for

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right? This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM,

removing AND INSERTING sim card

Does it hurt anything to remove and insert a sim card with the iPhone turned on? I have forgotten to turn off the unit a few times when moving my sim between phones and things seemed to be okay afterward, but I thought I would ask, just in case. -- The following information is important for

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables. So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of. But, being in the US if I

Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

Why? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Yolanda Thompson wrote: > > with a slight hearing loss, I love the new volume sounds! > >> On 4/11/18, Devin Prater wrote: >> Not all change is good, sure. But not all change is bad, either.

Re: Logitech keyboard

Actually, on the k480 from the spacebar going left you have: Command, Options, Function, Control. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:38 AM, Ann Byrne

Favorite Tech Podcasts

All, What are your favorite podcasts that are technology-oriented, blind focused or otherwise? Obviously the Daily Fible is great, but I'm also wondering about the best podcasts since DF has to be listened to live. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members

Re: Setting Up FitBit using VoiceOver

I use a Fitbit Alta HR, the only sighted help I needed to set it up was to read the code to type. I find the application quite easy to use on my 5s. Hope this helps a bit, good luck! Marie On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:50:01 PM UTC+2, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > I am considering a FitBit, and am

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

I like the Today In IOS podcast. It sometimes is listed as TII. It is not VoiceOver specific, but he is very aware of VoiceOver and mentions it sometimes. He has an app to, but you can access it from any podcast player. His app is completely VoiceOver accessible. I think it might cost something.

RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my work phone's pronunciation of Emoji. I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri Female did not. She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly. But, since she heard mine, she

RE: removing AND INSERTING sim card

It doesn't matter and won't hurt anything. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Vicky Collins Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: removing AND INSERTING sim card Does it hurt anything to

Re: Setting Up FitBit using VoiceOver

Hi Marie, and anyone else who can give me some information. If zip it that you are using does it have a watch that included on it and do you need your phone to use the watch as far as I know the only real excess a bowl product is the Apple Watch I know that there are many unlabeled or on

Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

Hi Katya, I realize that what I’m about to write here is not going to mitigate the “update” frustrations, but I don’t think that Apple engineers are doing any of this intentionally. Rather, what I believe we (the VoiceOver user community) are experiencing is one of the serious flaws of Object

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

y using the enhance Samantha & she says something other than emoji keyboard. Donna > > Richard, > > I'm using the enhanced version of iOS Samantha. I use it for pretty much > everything on my phone. (Sidenote: I like Alex, but am not sure why there is > so much enthusiasm there.) I just

Re: the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

I have tried the latest update, and I can't log in. When I double tap on the user name and password fields, the keyboard does not come up. Sent from my iPhone Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 > On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicky Collins

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I find it very strange that some have the problem while others using the same voice does not. There has to be a common thread somewhere. Donna > On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support

Outlook and Multi-line text field

Hi all I like Outlook for iOS very much. But one thing that frustrates me is the   repetition of VO saying: Multi-line text field. When your trying to review an email for reply and when you try

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

What is TII? Thank you very much. Peggy Peggy Sent from my IPhone. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi Richard and all, > > The TII app used to cost, but now it's free. I agree that this is an > excellent podcast. > > Best, > Anna > > > > >> On

Re: Questions regarding iPhone voices

Hi Terry, I use british voices on my iPhones. I have noticed that on my iPhone 6, the voices can get distorted, however, on my 8, the voices are much clearer. This is due to the better speakers on the 8. I also like Alex, but it draws a lot on the processor so I've switched to the siri female

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

It stands for today in IOS. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:42 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What is TII? > Thank you very much. > Peggy > > Peggy Sent from my IPhone. > > >> On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Anna Dresner wrote: >> >> Hi Richard and all,

looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

Hello, I wrote a while ago asking if anyone has typing feedback problems using braille displays with the iPhone. Getting no answer I assume nobody has such problems? Could anyone confirm that writing with braille display presents no problem with VoiceOver announcing words when typed? I am

Questions regarding iPhone voices

Hello everyone, I have some questions regarding the iPhone voices. I am not trying to possibly start something here by asking these questions. I would just honestly like to know peoples thoughts on the matter. Alright, for quite a while I used the voice of Alex. It seemed the clearest to

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Hi Richard and all, The TII app used to cost, but now it's free. I agree that this is an excellent podcast. Best, Anna > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I like the Today In IOS podcast. It sometimes is listed as TII. > It is not

AppleWatch Series 3 not reading AutoSpeak Enabled items on Modular watch face after update to current OS

Hi, I updated my AppleWatch Series 3 yesterday to the latest OS. Since, a single tap on the screen only results in the time being spoken, but not any of the AutoSpeak Enabled items in the Modular face complications selected. They all worked prior to this update. I have powered off and back on

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: AppleWatch Series 3 not reading AutoSpeak Enabled items on Modular watch face after update to current OS

Thanks. It is. I’ve enven toggled the AutoSpeak off and then on again, but no joy. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:38 PM To: Blind iPhone MailingList Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AppleWatch Series 3 not

Re: AppleWatch Series 3 not reading AutoSpeak Enabled items on Modular watch face after update to current OS

Hi Keith; Make sure autospeak is turned on for all the items you want to speak. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:35 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Hi, > > I updated my AppleWatch Series 3 yesterday to the latest OS. Since, a single > tap on

Does

Does any one notice with the newest ios 1103 with the serri voice of the femail it is not laggy. I notice it is not laggy on my i pad minni second generation Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns

Re: Fave i phoe voices

samantha enhanced I use as a default voice. -Original Message- From: wui chin Leong Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Fave i phoe voices What is every ones fave ios voice they enjoy using i really like using the serre voice. Sent from my

Re: Fave i phoe voices

Ava Enhanced, but I do like Zoey on my PC, so I need to see if she's come to the iPhone. On 04/11/2018 03:37 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: Tom regular, and Juan regular. El 11/04/2018 a las 03:21 p.m., 'Simon' via VIPhone escribió: samantha enhanced I use as a default voice. -Original

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Peggy Sent from my IPhone. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Candie Stiles wrote: > > It stands for today in IOS. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:42 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> What is TII? >> Thank you very much. >> Peggy >> >>

Re: looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

Hi Ioana. Yes, I had to turn on my speech to confirm this, but it is indeed happening here as well. Regards, Scott On 4/11/18, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > Hello, > I wrote a while ago asking if anyone has typing feedback problems using > braille displays with the iPhone.

Re: Fave i phoe voices

Definitely Alex. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:21 PM, 'Simon' via VIPhone > wrote: > > samantha enhanced I use as a default voice. > -Original Message- From: wui chin Leong > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:18 PM > To:

RE: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Peggy, There was no text in your message. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of pegkan...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts Peggy Sent from my IPhone. On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:44

RE: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Rob, I did a google search and there is tons of info out there, but here is one from Amazon Help where you might find good information. https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8=14284855011 Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”  - Mitch Albom from The

Fave i phoe voices

What is every ones fave ios voice they enjoy using i really like using the serre voice. Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Many thanks for this, would like to append a further question. Could anyone recommend podcasts I can get at via Alexa please? Tia, BobH. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:41 PM Subject:

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

Hi, I found the answer to my question I thought the message body was filled in sorry about that not sure what happened. Thank you for your help. Peggy Peggy Sent from my IPhone. > On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Peggy, > There was no

Re: Fave i phoe voices

Tom regular, and Juan regular. El 11/04/2018 a las 03:21 p.m., 'Simon' via VIPhone escribió: samantha enhanced I use as a default voice. -Original Message- From: wui chin Leong Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Fave i phoe voices What is

Editing something I have dictated

Hello everyone, I wasn't exactly sure what type of subject to put for this question. I am hoping someone can offer me some help, though. I was making a posting on Facebook earlier. I was dictating the post, instead of typing it out. All went well with the dictation. However, part of the

Re: Editing something I have dictated

Hello, Moving blocks of text around without a Bluetooth keyboard is, I find, a bit tricky. I recommend using the rotor set to words or lines and placing VoiceOver cursor at beginning of first word you want to start selecting. Than use the rotor to get to the "select text " option. Then you

Re: Setting Up FitBit using VoiceOver

You do need your phone to use your FitBit, at least as a blind person. The Charge HR does display the time, but since it doesn't talk itself, I can't read the time off of my Charge HR as a blind person. I use the FitBit app with Android now, but I don't see many unlabelled buttons, and I don't

Re: the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

When I first double tap on the sign in button, or I think the app calls it a link, the username edit field is there right away for me just to do a double tap. Then, I am able to start entering my email address as my username. However, should I look around the screen a bit while I'm entering

Re: Questions regarding iPhone voices

Hi I also use Eva and Alex. Indeed he is the loudest voice I have found but I like to alternate. No like others said, if is all very subjective. I find she puts me in a good mood. Lol. Hth. Ioana Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Carla Savage

Re: looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

Hello, Thanks for your response. Hope that you and others with similar problem will consider reporting this to apple. Indeed the best way to deal with this for now is to turn off speech feedback completely. I find I got used to hearing if the word I typed was misspelled. I actually suggested

Re: Editing something I have dictated

There was a great Applevis podcast about dictation. It was a while back, but i'm sure you can find it on the Applevis site. Andy - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:20 PM Subject:

RE: Favorite Tech Podcasts

The app used to cost 99 Cents, but it’s free now. I don’t see a need for it, though, you can listen to it just as well with any Podcast app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Favorite Tech Podcasts

I so far found that listening to Podcasts with the Echo does not work well at all. If as Richard you google this you find a bunch of information mostly saying that Alexa gets the Podcasts from Tune In and that you can use the Alexa app on the phone to search for Podcasts and then play them via

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: AppleWatch Series 3 not reading AutoSpeak Enabled items on Modular watch face after update to current OS

I experienced this after resetting my watch and setting it up as a new device. However, for me a reboot did the trick and it’s all working as it should again. From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:44 PM To:

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: AppleWatch Series 3 not reading AutoSpeak Enabled items on Modular watch face after update to current OS

Sorry, I shouldn’t say it’s all working as it should because Apple really needs to fix that bug where the screen locks a second or two after you tap or press the crown or even sometimes while you are in the middle of doing something. From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone

RE: Editing something I have dictated

The Applevis has fantastic search functionality. Just look for the edit field and type in the word or term you want to search for and press enter. Now use your headings to find the search results and you can now filter it further, you can, for example, apply a "Podcast" filter if you want to see

RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Hello Rich, I am experiencing the same pronunciation problem in iOS 11.3 on all three phone that I tested including my 6 S, 7, and 8 Plus devices. Mind you I removed and then reinstalled Samantha Enhanced TTS on all three phones but the results were the same. As I have stated on more than

RE: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

Hello Bill, A very, very insightful observation about object-oriented-programming. While this thought had not occurred to me, now that you bring it to our attention, I concur. The only non-object oriented programming language of which I am aware is assembly. Are you suggesting that were

Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Hey Donna, This is indeed strange; I have two iDevices, each with iOS 11.3 installed - an iPhone 6 and an iPad II. The iPhone has the Emoji pronunciation issue concerning this thread, the iPad does not!  - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin - "It is even harder for the average ape

Re: Discouraging how updates seem like downgrades

Thanks Mark. Assembly would be quite intensive, but standard C is not an Object Oriented Programming language neither - and there are others as well. The thing about OOP is that Class and Class Inheritance isn’t always obvious where “collateral impact” is concerned and although OOP does

Re: Editing something I have dictated

How do I search on that site? I wish somebody would come up with a course. Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!! > On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > > There was a great Applevis podcast about dictation. It was a while back, but > i'm sure you can find it on

Re: Questions regarding iPhone voices

I like to have different voices for Siri and VoiceOver. I currently use Alex for VoiceOver and tom for Siri. If I use Tom for voiceOver and the male Australian voice for Siri, peple around me act startled to hear an Australian dialect that is clear and confident. So I stick to Alex and Tom so

RE: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

Thanks, Richard. I do use the Samantha voice, so that’s interesting to know other voices may say it correctly. With all screen readers, I find it interesting how different synthesizers are “taught” to say things. Sometimes my synthesizer choice for Window Eyes or Jaws butchers something my