Re: Differences between the iPhone 7, an iPhone 8?

[Gordon]

there really isn't much difference as far as we're concerned. the 7 and 
8 are the same size, but the 8 has a glass front and back to allow for 
wireless charging which the 7 doesn't have. T-mobile sells the 7 for 
$449 which is $150 cheaper than the 8. If you're wanting the 7 or 8 
plus, those will be more expensive of course.



On 11/8/2018 10:27 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello everyone,

I know I could look this up and read about it. I could read about the 
differences between the two phones. But sometimes it is easier for me 
to ask on list, because I can look back and read it.


I love my iPhone 6s. I would love to keep it.
 However, within the next month, I will hopefully be receiving the 
continuous glucose monitor ring system. The freestyle Libre.  As you 
can imagine, I am very excited about this prospect. It’s something I 
have been wanting for a while now.


Anyway, in order to be able to use the app on my phone, would this 
interest, I need to have a phone that offers NFC. Of course, my phone 
does not.


 I am most likely going to purchase my phone through T-Mobile, Avenue 
I want to be able to have insurance on it. This is definitely very 
important to me. I would preferred to buy an unlocked phone. But I 
don’t want to go without coverage.


So what are the differences between the iPhone 7, and iPhone 8?
Are there any huge differences I need to be aware of?

Anything you all can tell me will be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Arlene,

Not sure what is the issue for you, but for me this is how it works (I assume 
you know how to pull up the Control Centre and find the Screen Recording icon), 
here is what I do once I am on it:

1. I swipe down and Voiceover says Open Controls
2. I double tap and Voiceover says Screen Recording, Heading, Actions available
3. I flick right and Voiceover says Start Recording button, I flick right once 
more and Voiceover says Microphone Off, Switch Button Off
4. I double tap and Voiceover says On
5. I swipe left once and Voiceover says Start Recording Button, I double tap 
and Voiceover will make a couple of beeps as it does a sort of 3, 2, 1 
count-down before recording starts.
Now as soon as recording starts you will suddenly hardly hear Voiceover any 
more since it speaks out of the earpiece speaker so you may have to hold your 
phone up closer to your ear depending on how good your hearing is.
You can now press the home button a couple of times to get out of screen 
recorder and Control Panel, but the recording will continue and all gestures 
and screens where you go will be recorded.
In order to stop screen recorder you have to again go into Control Centre > 
Screen Recording and double tap the Stop Recording button.
Once you do this the video will be saved to your camera roll.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard , again, we've got to thank you, for you needing others to test the 
recording on their phones, for one thing we weren't aware of the screen 
recording feature in the phone, that you clarified in the message below isn't 
an app, so thanks for informing us of it. the screen recorder, sounds quite 
useful, and we really want to learn it, though we need a bit more help with it. 
We couldn't find any of the controls, even the microphone. Somehow I'm missing 
something not finding these controls. You're instructions are clear, but as I 
said we're not finding the controls,  and as I said this is something we really 
want to learn to use. By the way we changed the rotor settings, we tried all of 
them, thinking that it might have helped, but didn't do anything. There's so 
many useful things to do with it including making tutorials. We're greatful for 
your assistance in using the screen recorder, even though at this point it has 
a bug in it.We meant to be helpful along with us as far as the testing, which 
is not necessary any longer since there's been enough list members that have 
tested the screen record along with your experience. So, if there's something 
that we're missing, please let us know, and thanks again for always sharing 
your own experiences, how to instructions and knowledge.

Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including 

Differences between the iPhone 7, an iPhone 8?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I know I could look this up and read about it. I could read about the 
differences between the two phones. But sometimes it is easier for me to ask on 
list, because I can look back and read it.

I love my iPhone 6s. I would love to keep it.
 However, within the next month, I will hopefully be receiving the continuous 
glucose monitor ring system. The freestyle Libre.  As you can imagine, I am 
very excited about this prospect. It’s something I have been wanting for a 
while now.

Anyway, in order to be able to use the app on my phone, would this interest, I 
need to have a phone that offers NFC. Of course, my phone does not.

 I am most likely going to purchase my phone through T-Mobile, Avenue I want to 
be able to have insurance on it. This is definitely very important to me. I 
would preferred to buy an unlocked phone. But I don’t want to go without 
coverage.

So what are the differences between the iPhone 7, and iPhone 8?
Are there any huge differences I need to be aware of?

Anything you all can tell me will be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: got a new toy!

[Cristobal Munoz]

Here you go: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202658

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Did you go to settings to make that change?What were the steps (for whenever 
> I get a new phone)? Thanks. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: got a new toy!
> 
> Speedwise, the SE can still hold its own. I was getting more hanging and apps 
> taking longer to open, switching between apps  and things like that to where 
> it was getting noticeable for me though. My business line I use for mainly 
> receiving and making calls. All the other work related stuff like alerts, 
> texting, calendar look ups, email, etc I do off of my main phone. Thus I 
> decided to upgrade.
> I'm still not a fan of Face ID and it's fairly frequent that I'm prompted for 
> a passcode. I know the new gestures to replace the home button are there, but 
> I simply don't find them as convenient or intuitive as just pressing the home 
> button. Had they come out with a second generation SE, I would have snatched 
> that sucker up in a second. 
> I know Apple talks up the new gestures a lot, but I find them to be bleh and 
> at the very least a step back in user experience. 
> What I ended up doing too is to enable the assistive touch button and place 
> it in my dock sort of as the fifth app there. Right between the second and 
> third apps. 
> I then changed the behavior of the button so that one tap (VO double tap) 
> would act as the home button and a double tap (VO triple tap) would be the 
> control panel. With the long press and hold activating the menu for the rest 
> of the assistive touch options. 
> This for me works since I can use the XR more comfortably as a one handed 
> device and not bother with the swipe up gesture as the home button as I find 
> just tapping the assistive touch icon much faster. That and I'm lazy too I 
> guess. Makes unlocking the phone quicker for me as well.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got a new toy!
> 
> I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day tasks, 
> it's not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than the 5S. The 
> only thing I have noticed is that the cell reception is not quite as good in 
> some areas as with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less bars in some areas, 
> it's a great little phone, I was kind of sorry to see it discontinued even 
> though the technology in it was starting to show its age.
> Original message:
>> With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 
>> giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 
>> GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness 
>> aside on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it 
>> started to act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers 
>> and often, it would automatically call people.
>> The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 
>> a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 
>> over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 
>> work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 
>> try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.
>> We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also 
>> got designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and 
>> iBotta points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot.
>> We're going to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.
> 
>> Cristóbal
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: got a new toy!
> 
>> I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice 
>> new battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery 
>> replacement program.
> 
>> I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
>> So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
>> phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
>> several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>>> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
>>> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see 
>>> the need at this point and I never found much use for having more 
>>> than one cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 
>>> 5S and thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I 
>>> 

RE: got a new toy!

[Carolyn Arnold]

Did you go to settings to make that change?What were the steps (for whenever I 
get a new phone)? Thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: got a new toy!

Speedwise, the SE can still hold its own. I was getting more hanging and apps 
taking longer to open, switching between apps  and things like that to where it 
was getting noticeable for me though. My business line I use for mainly 
receiving and making calls. All the other work related stuff like alerts, 
texting, calendar look ups, email, etc I do off of my main phone. Thus I 
decided to upgrade.
I'm still not a fan of Face ID and it's fairly frequent that I'm prompted for a 
passcode. I know the new gestures to replace the home button are there, but I 
simply don't find them as convenient or intuitive as just pressing the home 
button. Had they come out with a second generation SE, I would have snatched 
that sucker up in a second. 
I know Apple talks up the new gestures a lot, but I find them to be bleh and at 
the very least a step back in user experience. 
What I ended up doing too is to enable the assistive touch button and place it 
in my dock sort of as the fifth app there. Right between the second and third 
apps. 
I then changed the behavior of the button so that one tap (VO double tap) would 
act as the home button and a double tap (VO triple tap) would be the control 
panel. With the long press and hold activating the menu for the rest of the 
assistive touch options. 
This for me works since I can use the XR more comfortably as a one handed 
device and not bother with the swipe up gesture as the home button as I find 
just tapping the assistive touch icon much faster. That and I'm lazy too I 
guess. Makes unlocking the phone quicker for me as well.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day tasks, it's 
not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than the 5S. The only thing 
I have noticed is that the cell reception is not quite as good in some areas as 
with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less bars in some areas, it's a great 
little phone, I was kind of sorry to see it discontinued even though the 
technology in it was starting to show its age.
Original message:
> With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 
> giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 
> GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness 
> aside on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it 
> started to act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers 
> and often, it would automatically call people.
> The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 
> a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 
> over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 
> work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 
> try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.
> We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also 
> got designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and 
> iBotta points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot.
> We're going to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.

> Cristóbal

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got a new toy!

> I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice 
> new battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery 
> replacement program.

> I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
> So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
> phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
> several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

>> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
>> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see 
>> the need at this point and I never found much use for having more 
>> than one cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 
>> 5S and thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I 
>> quickly noticed I just never did so I sold it.

>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: got a new toy!

>> So, I decided to add another iphone to my 

RE: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

[llumpkin]

I'm using it on iphone 7 with version 12.01

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

Ok on what model of iPhone? Did you update to latest version?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 1:35 p. m.,  
 escribió:

> I use lire all the time and it works fine.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:26 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me
> 
> for those of you who use the Lire RS app, since its latest update, it closes 
> on me all of a sudden, losing the article I was just reading! I uninstalled, 
> reinstalled, set up everything again, and it’s still doing the same thing! I 
> want to throw it out the window! What ideas/suggestions might you guys have 
> aside from again uninstalling, reinstalling, etc? This is getting 
> frustrating! And I use a lot RSS feeds for tech news especially. thanks for 
> info before I go mad.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: got a new toy!

[Gerardo Corripio]

Now that’s an idea about using Assistive touch as a virtual Home button! I 
never thought of that.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 3:55 p. m., Cristóbal Muñoz  
escribió:

> Speedwise, the SE can still hold its own. I was getting more hanging and apps 
> taking longer to open, switching between apps  and things like that to where 
> it was getting noticeable for me though. My business line I use for mainly 
> receiving and making calls. All the other work related stuff like alerts, 
> texting, calendar look ups, email, etc I do off of my main phone. Thus I 
> decided to upgrade.
> I'm still not a fan of Face ID and it's fairly frequent that I'm prompted for 
> a passcode. I know the new gestures to replace the home button are there, but 
> I simply don't find them as convenient or intuitive as just pressing the home 
> button. Had they come out with a second generation SE, I would have snatched 
> that sucker up in a second. 
> I know Apple talks up the new gestures a lot, but I find them to be bleh and 
> at the very least a step back in user experience. 
> What I ended up doing too is to enable the assistive touch button and place 
> it in my dock sort of as the fifth app there. Right between the second and 
> third apps. 
> I then changed the behavior of the button so that one tap (VO double tap) 
> would act as the home button and a double tap (VO triple tap) would be the 
> control panel. With the long press and hold activating the menu for the rest 
> of the assistive touch options. 
> This for me works since I can use the XR more comfortably as a one handed 
> device and not bother with the swipe up gesture as the home button as I find 
> just tapping the assistive touch icon much faster. That and I'm lazy too I 
> guess. Makes unlocking the phone quicker for me as well.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got a new toy!
> 
> I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day tasks, 
> it's not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than the 5S. The 
> only thing I have noticed is that the cell reception is not quite as good in 
> some areas as with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less bars in some areas, 
> it's a great little phone, I was kind of sorry to see it discontinued even 
> though the technology in it was starting to show its age.
> Original message:
>> With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 
>> giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 
>> GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness 
>> aside on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it 
>> started to act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers 
>> and often, it would automatically call people.
>> The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 
>> a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 
>> over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 
>> work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 
>> try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.
>> We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also 
>> got designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and 
>> iBotta points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot. 
>> We're going to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.
> 
>> Cristóbal
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: got a new toy!
> 
>> I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice 
>> new battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery 
>> replacement program.
> 
>> I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
>> So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
>> phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
>> several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>>> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
>>> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see 
>>> the need at this point and I never found much use for having more 
>>> than one cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 
>>> 5S and thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I 
>>> quickly noticed I just never did so I sold it.
> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mike Arrigo
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: got a new toy!
> 
>>> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, 

RE: got a new toy!

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Speedwise, the SE can still hold its own. I was getting more hanging and apps 
taking longer to open, switching between apps  and things like that to where it 
was getting noticeable for me though. My business line I use for mainly 
receiving and making calls. All the other work related stuff like alerts, 
texting, calendar look ups, email, etc I do off of my main phone. Thus I 
decided to upgrade.
I'm still not a fan of Face ID and it's fairly frequent that I'm prompted for a 
passcode. I know the new gestures to replace the home button are there, but I 
simply don't find them as convenient or intuitive as just pressing the home 
button. Had they come out with a second generation SE, I would have snatched 
that sucker up in a second. 
I know Apple talks up the new gestures a lot, but I find them to be bleh and at 
the very least a step back in user experience. 
What I ended up doing too is to enable the assistive touch button and place it 
in my dock sort of as the fifth app there. Right between the second and third 
apps. 
I then changed the behavior of the button so that one tap (VO double tap) would 
act as the home button and a double tap (VO triple tap) would be the control 
panel. With the long press and hold activating the menu for the rest of the 
assistive touch options. 
This for me works since I can use the XR more comfortably as a one handed 
device and not bother with the swipe up gesture as the home button as I find 
just tapping the assistive touch icon much faster. That and I'm lazy too I 
guess. Makes unlocking the phone quicker for me as well.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day tasks, it's 
not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than the 5S. The only thing 
I have noticed is that the cell reception is not quite as good in some areas as 
with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less bars in some areas, it's a great 
little phone, I was kind of sorry to see it discontinued even though the 
technology in it was starting to show its age.
Original message:
> With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 
> giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 
> GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness 
> aside on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it 
> started to act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers 
> and often, it would automatically call people.
> The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 
> a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 
> over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 
> work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 
> try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.
> We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also 
> got designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and 
> iBotta points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot. 
> We're going to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.

> Cristóbal

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got a new toy!

> I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice 
> new battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery 
> replacement program.

> I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
> So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
> phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
> several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

>> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
>> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see 
>> the need at this point and I never found much use for having more 
>> than one cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 
>> 5S and thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I 
>> quickly noticed I just never did so I sold it.

>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: got a new toy!

>> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, 
>> so I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the 
>> Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox.
>> Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, 
>> at least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to 
>> not having a home button but it wasn't too bad, 

Re: got a new toy!

[Mike Arrigo]

I plan on using all of my phones, it's pretty easy to move the sim card 
between them, that's one thing that does concern me if everything goes 
to using the ESIM, that may no longer be possible to do.

Original message:
I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice new 
battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery replacement 
program.


I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.



Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Must be nice to be rich *smile*
I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the 
need at this point and I never found much use for having more than one 
cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and 
thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I quickly 
noticed I just never did so I sold it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo

Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got a new toy!



So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so
I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the
Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox.
Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at
least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not
having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up
from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the app
switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few times,
you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery life
seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the way
down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my collection.



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Re: got a new toy!

[Mike Arrigo]

I find that when I am doing a lot of walking, the iphone SE is more 
comfortable in the pocket. The XR is slightly bigger than the iphone 8, 
it's ok in the pocket but you definitely know it's there a lot more. It 
will be interesting to see how the Intel modem performs in the XR 
compared to the Qualcom modem that is in the iphone 8, there wre 
actuallly two different models of the previous iphone generations, one 
used a Qualcom modem and the other used an Intel modem. Since Apple and 
Qualcom had a falling out, all of the new iphones use Intel modems.

Original message:

Must be nice to be rich *smile*
I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the 
need at this point and I never found much use for having more than one 
cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and 
thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I quickly 
noticed I just never did so I sold it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo

Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got a new toy!



So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so
I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the
Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox.
Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at
least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not
having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up
from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the app
switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few times,
you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery life
seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the way
down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my collection.



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Re: got a new toy!

[Mike Arrigo]

I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day 
tasks, it's not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than 
the 5S. The only thing I have noticed is that the cell reception is not 
quite as good in some areas as with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less 
bars in some areas, it's a great little phone, I was kind of sorry to 
see it discontinued even though the technology in it was starting to 
show its age.

Original message:
With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 
giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 
GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness aside 
on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it started to 
act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers and often, it 
would automatically call people.
The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 
a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 
over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 
work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 
try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.
We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also got 
designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and iBotta 
points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot. We're going 
to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.



Cristóbal



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!


I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice new 
battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery replacement 
program.


I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 
So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 
phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 
several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.



Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Must be nice to be rich *smile*
I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the 
need at this point and I never found much use for having more than one 
cell phone. When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and 
thought I would use it at home, for Audible and all that. I quickly 
noticed I just never did so I sold it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got a new toy!



So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR,
so I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the
Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox.
Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone,
at least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to
not having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short
swipe up from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the
app switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few
times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery
life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the
way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
collection.



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RE: Force a return in text message with braille display

[Robert Wright]

In text messages at least with a BT keyboard to get a hard return without 
sending your message press option + enter
 

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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Force a return in text message with braille display

That is the default behavior even with an external bluetooth QWERTY keyboard.
I think Apple assumes text messages are not needing paragraphs, or even hard 
returns.
In Excel, you can do alt-Enter, but I have no idea if that works in text 
messages.
I doubt it.
I just use punctuation in messages.
Richard




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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, does anyone know how to force a return in a text message? When using 
> the braille display, any of the return commands sends the message.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How do you get regular UberPool instead of express?

[Robert Wright]

I should have asked what is the nearest large city to you. I wonder if they 
have changed their plans based on the size of the town you are in. 

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From: Kathy Brandt
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you get regular UberPool instead of express?

Laurel Maryland

On Nov 7, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:
May I ask what city you are in?
 
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From: Kathy Brandt
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you get regular UberPool instead of express?
 
Hi, I don’t: it says the pool initially, but if I select that, it is only 
talking about the express pool, where you have to walk a little bit from your 
pick up point and wait, and then be dropped off somewhere near your drop off 
address instead of directly at the place. There’s no way to change it.

On Nov 7, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
I am not sure what you mean. I still get 3 separate options, express, pool and 
uberX.
 
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Can’t figure out how to do it; Wish that they were separate options the way 
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Re: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

[Gerardo Corripio]

Ok on what model of iPhone? Did you update to latest version?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 1:35 p. m.,  
 escribió:

> I use lire all the time and it works fine.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me
> 
> for those of you who use the Lire RS app, since its latest update, it closes 
> on me all of a sudden, losing the article I was just reading! I uninstalled, 
> reinstalled, set up everything again, and it’s still doing the same thing! I 
> want to throw it out the window! What ideas/suggestions might you guys have 
> aside from again uninstalling, reinstalling, etc? This is getting 
> frustrating! And I use a lot RSS feeds for tech news especially. thanks for 
> info before I go mad.
> 
> Gera
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RE: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Same here. On an XR currently, but used to use it on an SE not less than ten 
days ago.

Cristóbal

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Subject: RE: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

I use lire all the time and it works fine.


-Original Message-
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Corripio
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To: iPhone List 
Subject: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

for those of you who use the Lire RS app, since its latest update, it closes on 
me all of a sudden, losing the article I was just reading! I uninstalled, 
reinstalled, set up everything again, and it’s still doing the same thing! I 
want to throw it out the window! What ideas/suggestions might you guys have 
aside from again uninstalling, reinstalling, etc? This is getting frustrating! 
And I use a lot RSS feeds for tech news especially. thanks for info before I go 
mad.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: Force return with a Braille display

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You don't have to lock the Option key. You can press dot 2 with dot 7 and the 
spacebar and then do a Return (dot 8). If you use dot 7 with dot 2, it lets you 
enter one character and then unlocks the Option key again.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've 
> never heard of it before.
> Richard
> 
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>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket!
>> 
>> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit 
>> dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit 
>> space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key.
>> 
>> Thank you for your guys help.
>> Traci
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should 
>>> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option 
>>> enter.
>>> 
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RE: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

[llumpkin]

I use lire all the time and it works fine.


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Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:26 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

for those of you who use the Lire RS app, since its latest update, it closes on 
me all of a sudden, losing the article I was just reading! I uninstalled, 
reinstalled, set up everything again, and it’s still doing the same thing! I 
want to throw it out the window! What ideas/suggestions might you guys have 
aside from again uninstalling, reinstalling, etc? This is getting frustrating! 
And I use a lot RSS feeds for tech news especially. thanks for info before I go 
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Gera
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Re: Force return with a Braille display

[Richard Turner]

I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've 
never heard of it before.
Richard



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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket!
> 
> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit 
> dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit 
> space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key.
> 
> Thank you for your guys help.
> Traci
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie  wrote:
>> 
>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should 
>> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option 
>> enter.
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Bill Holton]

Hese have Bluetooth conductivity or some other accessible means to get the data?





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mary 
Otten 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:13:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether 
directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So 
for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for 
around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of 
course.
Mary


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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
>
> Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
> Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
> gets it cleaned and service once a year.
> Good idea to put the model on that
> honey  coupon list
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
>
> CheersReg
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> Hi Reg,
>
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
> is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
>
> If you order one
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
> I want one!
>
> Reg
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. 
Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill 
review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review 
talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. 
So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like.
Mary


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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what 
> date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.
> 
> https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on 
>> the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a 
>> manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where 
>> Cristobal linked to for his   treadmill.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
>>> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up 
>>> with Apple health or my fitness pal.
>>> 
>>> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
>>> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, 
>>> but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
>>> 
>>> Tracy 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Tracy,
 I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
 which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So 
 I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
 everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
 that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since 
 I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. 
 The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and 
 they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more 
 expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
 Mary
 
 
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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they 
> may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can 
> connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is 
> accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside 
> the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the 
> $899 price is the best I have seen.
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort 
>> to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at 
>> the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 
>> miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want 
>> to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every 
>> day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the 
>> Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and 
>> tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get 
>> moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've 
>> tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're 
>> a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't 
>> want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time 
>> you take a step. 
>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to 
>> my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, 
>> but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly 
>> on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the 
>> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid 
>> subscription plan. Being 

RE: got a new toy!

[Carolyn Arnold]

Any time I get another phone, this one goes - learned that about clothes and 
lots of stuff. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: got a new toy!

Must be nice to be rich *smile*
I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the need at 
this point and I never found much use for having more than one cell phone. When 
I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and thought I would use it at 
home, for Audible and all that. I quickly noticed I just never did so I sold it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got a new toy!

So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so I have 
an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the Apple store only 
had one case for it which was an Otterbox. 
Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at least 
not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not having a home 
button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up from the bottom takes 
you home and a longer swipe opens the app switcher. The vibrations are helpful 
but once you do it a few times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each 
function. Battery life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness 
all the way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
collection.

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Re: Force return with a Braille display

[Traci Duncan]

*Claps hands! Option key is the ticket!

I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit 
dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit 
space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key.

Thank you for your guys help.
Traci

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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie  wrote:
> 
> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should 
> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option 
> enter.
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, I meant to tell you in the last message, we never accomplished making 
any recordings since we didn't find any in the photo area, but we're going to 
try your additional directions from the last of your messages I replied too. 
Even though it's not working up to par and hopefully this bug will be fixed, as 
I said we want very much to get this down pat in knowing how to do it. Thanks 
again.

Arlene and Wayne
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 10:13 AM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Also, at this point I don't think it is necessary to send another screen 
recording video since enough people with different devices have now confirmed 
this and this is a bug which is universal so hopefully all those who have 
checked it out have emailed accessibil...@apple.com requesting that this will 
be fixed since when the feature was first introduced you could make a screen 
recording which included Voiceover as well as any comments you spoke just fine. 
It was a wonderful method to send a demo to a developer if there were issues 
with the app showing them exactly what the problem was whether it was an 
unlabelled button, something one could not get to with Voiceover etc. 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Arlene,

 

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.

All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
if you want to post it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address 
is siegh...@live.ca

I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who 
can make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM

  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is 
not an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
how to enable 

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, thank you for these additional instructions which we'll try.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 10:10 AM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Use the rotor, flick to open controls and double tap

  Also, just double tapping on it will start a screen recording and double 
tapping again will end it, but by default the microphone is not on so while 
this will create a video showing your screen and what you do it will be a 
silent video.

  If you double tapped on it before chance are you made some screen recordings 
already, just check your Photos app and delete them if you accidently created 
some.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Arlene,

 

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.

All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
if you want to post it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address 
is siegh...@live.ca

I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who 
can make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM

  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is 
not an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
how to enable the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you 
do it by flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double 
tap, then locate the Microphone toggle.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this 
is what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and 
 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether 
directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So 
for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for 
around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of 
course.
Mary


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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
> Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
> gets it cleaned and service once a year.
> Good idea to put the model on that 
> honey  coupon list
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
> 
> CheersReg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Hi Reg,
> 
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
> is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
> 
> If you order one
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
> I want one!
> 
> Reg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
> screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
> speed/elevation controls built into them so you 

Re: got a new toy!

[Gerardo Corripio]

yes that.s true; I mean thinking now with a cold head, if my SE is working 
great (I had since May) what.s the use of having so many toys? worse if it.s 
with money one has? if these were loaned t record podcast of and you.d have to 
give them back, that.s understanable. If anyone of you guys someday can.t find 
a home for your old phones or phones that you hardly use

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 10:31 a. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
escribió:

> Having more is not always what it's cracked up to be, Gerado. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got a new toy!
> 
> Wow you guys are the envi! I sure wish I could get somehow sponsors for my 
> “Ciberaprendiendo” podcast so I can feature the latest and greatest! Any 
> tips? I’m working like a donkey and don’t get paid over there, thus at least 
> I’d like to get worthwhile pocasts done, hoping I can get sponsors.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 10:25 a. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:
> 
>> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so I 
>> have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the Apple store 
>> only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. Unfortunately the Mophie 
>> juice pack is not available for this phone, at least not yet. I wasn't sure 
>> how easy it would be to get used to not having a home button but it wasn't 
>> too bad, basically a short swipe up from the bottom takes you home and a 
>> longer swipe opens the app switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you 
>> do it a few times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. 
>> Battery life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the 
>> way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
>> collection.
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Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard , again, we've got to thank you, for you needing others to test the 
recording on their phones, for one thing we weren't aware of the screen 
recording feature in the phone, that you clarified in the message below isn't 
an app, so thanks for informing us of it. the screen recorder, sounds quite 
useful, and we really want to learn it, though we need a bit more help with it. 
We couldn't find any of the controls, even the microphone. Somehow I'm missing 
something not finding these controls. You're instructions are clear, but as I 
said we're not finding the controls,  and as I said this is something we really 
want to learn to use. By the way we changed the rotor settings, we tried all of 
them, thinking that it might have helped, but didn't do anything. There's so 
many useful things to do with it including making tutorials. We're greatful for 
your assistance in using the screen recorder, even though at this point it has 
a bug in it.We meant to be helpful along with us as far as the testing, which 
is not necessary any longer since there's been enough list members that have 
tested the screen record along with your experience. So, if there's something 
that we're missing, please let us know, and thanks again for always sharing 
your own experiences, how to instructions and knowledge.

Arlene and Wayne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not 
an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.

  Arlene and Wayne

  www.alldigitalaudio.com

   

  arlenes71...@earthlink.net

  greenwoo...@cox.net

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello,

 

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

 

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could 
test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people 
with 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Reg Sullivan]

Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
gets it cleaned and service once a year.
Good idea to put the model on that 
honey  coupon list


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian 
at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being 
listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure 
between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again 
I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every 
morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can 
do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return 
for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a 
dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the 
winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of 
course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to 
maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 
feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a 
base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
maintain and benefit from.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Thanks a lot for that link, Tracy. I will check it out now and definitely 
report back if I do in fact get to see the treadmill this weekend.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what 
> date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.
> 
> https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on 
>> the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a 
>> manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where 
>> Cristobal linked to for his   treadmill.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
>>> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up 
>>> with Apple health or my fitness pal.
>>> 
>>> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
>>> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, 
>>> but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
>>> 
>>> Tracy 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Tracy,
 I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
 which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So 
 I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
 everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
 that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since 
 I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. 
 The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and 
 they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more 
 expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they 
> may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can 
> connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is 
> accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside 
> the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the 
> $899 price is the best I have seen.
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort 
>> to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at 
>> the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 
>> miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want 
>> to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every 
>> day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the 
>> Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and 
>> tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get 
>> moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've 
>> tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're 
>> a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't 
>> want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time 
>> you take a step. 
>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to 
>> my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, 
>> but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly 
>> on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the 
>> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid 
>> subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good 
>> enough for me. 
>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
>> man. The great 

Force return with a Braille display

[Jennie]

If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should 
force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option enter.

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Traci Duncan]

Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date 
this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.

https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracy,
> Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the 
> manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. 
> Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal 
> linked to for his   treadmill.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
>> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up 
>> with Apple health or my fitness pal.
>> 
>> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
>> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, 
>> but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
>> 
>> Tracy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
>>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So 
>>> I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
>>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
>>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
>>> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
>>> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
>>> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. 
>>> But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
 Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
 really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
 on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they 
 may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can 
 connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is 
 accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside 
 the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the 
 $899 price is the best I have seen.
 
 Traci
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
> wrote:
> 
> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at 
> the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 
> miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want 
> to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every 
> day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the 
> Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and 
> tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, 
> I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a 
> bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want 
> to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you 
> take a step. 
> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my 
> Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but 
> when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on 
> an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the 
> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid 
> subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good 
> enough for me. 
> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
> man. The great equalizer. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> That was 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the 
manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. 
Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked 
to for his   treadmill.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with 
> Apple health or my fitness pal.
> 
> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but 
> from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
> 
> Tracy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I 
>> wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
>> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
>> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
>> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But 
>> you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
>>> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may 
>>> be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up 
>>> to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After 
>>> I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health 
>>> app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the 
>>> best I have seen.
>>> 
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
 wrote:
 
 Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
 maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
 My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
 Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
 since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the 
 very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles 
 for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go 
 for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day 
 isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa 
 Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. 
 Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
 Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, 
 I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
 cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a 
 bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to 
 be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take 
 a step. 
 I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once 
 I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
 coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when 
 the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. 
 There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
 app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
 Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
 A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
 deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
 man. The great equalizer. 
 
 Cristóbal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
 
 That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
 Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
 is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
 I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, 
 but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to 

RE: got a new toy!

[Cristobal Muñoz]

With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was giving me 
more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 GB device since 
it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness aside on the 5S which is to 
be expected for such an old device, it started to act all weird on me. VO 
wasn't reading the phone numbers and often, it would automatically call people. 
The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and a rear 
camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it over the summer so 
as a super simple internet device, it can still work. She's going to buy the 
replacement camera module ($12 or so) and try to fix it. We've got nothing to 
lose. It's already broken. 
We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also got designs 
on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and iBotta points by 
piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot. We're going to use that sucker 
for something until the wheels fall off.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice new 
battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery replacement program.

I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. So the 
7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working phone. That is 
just one phone line. But I think I will be set for several years to come with 
these phones and their big batteries. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the need 
> at this point and I never found much use for having more than one cell phone. 
> When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and thought I would use 
> it at home, for Audible and all that. I quickly noticed I just never did so I 
> sold it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: got a new toy!
> 
> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, 
> so I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the 
> Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox.
> Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, 
> at least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to 
> not having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short 
> swipe up from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the 
> app switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few 
> times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery 
> life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the 
> way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
> collection.
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Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Traci Duncan]

Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why 
I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple 
health or my fitness pal.

I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but 
from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.

Tracy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracy,
> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I 
> wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But 
> you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on 
>> the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be 
>> easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to 
>> three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I 
>> walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. 
>> The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I 
>> have seen.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
>>> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since 
>>> been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very 
>>> least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a 
>>> walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a 
>>> pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't 
>>> always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana 
>>> wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not 
>>> going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
>>> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
>>> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller 
>>> person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on 
>>> something that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once 
>>> I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when 
>>> the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. 
>>> There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. 
>>> The great equalizer. 
>>> 
>>> Cristóbal
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>> 
>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
>>> is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
>>> I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, 
>>> but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my 
>>> store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk 
>>> quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a 
>>> mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a 
>>> half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and 
>>> especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at 
>>> least once a week. 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which 
has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t 
count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who 
read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review 
did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m 
hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, 
is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button 
and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your 
health and safety.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on 
> the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be 
> easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to 
> three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I 
> walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. 
> The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I 
> have seen.
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
>> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since 
>> been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very 
>> least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a 
>> walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a 
>> pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't 
>> always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind 
>> season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to 
>> go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
>> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
>> with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller 
>> person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on 
>> something that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
>> identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the 
>> Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There 
>> were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
>> mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
>> great equalizer. 
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>> 
>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
>> is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
>> I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but 
>> then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my 
>> store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk 
>> quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a 
>> mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
>> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
>> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
>> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
>> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I 
>> am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I 
>> became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have 
>> given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays 
>> I still maintain and benefit from.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
>> Sullivan
>> Sent: 

Re: got a new toy!

[Mary Otten]

I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice new 
battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery replacement program.

I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. So the 
7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working phone. That is 
just one phone line. But I think I will be set for several years to come with 
these phones and their big batteries. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Must be nice to be rich *smile*
> I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the need 
> at this point and I never found much use for having more than one cell phone. 
> When I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and thought I would use 
> it at home, for Audible and all that. I quickly noticed I just never did so I 
> sold it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: got a new toy!
> 
> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so 
> I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the 
> Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. 
> Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at 
> least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not 
> having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up 
> from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the app 
> switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few times, 
> you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery life 
> seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the way 
> down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
> collection.
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RE: Question about backup iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you tab through the options in iTunes there is one spot where it will tell 
you when the last backup was done, i.e. it will give you the date and time.
Also, you could additionally do an iCloud backup in Settings > Your Account (at 
the very top)



From: 'evergreenwoods' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about backup iPhone

Hello,

My iPhone 6S IOS 12 latest version has some problems and I got an appointment 
with Apple. I read that I must backup my phone before the visit. I clicked on 
backup in iTunes. However, can I be sure that I really did the backup, or what 
else do I have to do? Also, where can I find the backup file in my computer?
Rena



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Re: got a new toy!

[Dave]

Quite an Expensive toy.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: got a new toy!

Having more is not always what it's cracked up to be, Gerado.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

Wow you guys are the envi! I sure wish I could get somehow sponsors for my 
“Ciberaprendiendo” podcast so I can feature the latest and greatest! Any 
tips? I’m working like a donkey and don’t get paid over there, thus at least 
I’d like to get worthwhile pocasts done, hoping I can get sponsors.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 10:25 a. m., Mike Arrigo  
escribió:


So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so I 
have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the Apple 
store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. Unfortunately the 
Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at least not yet. I 
wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not having a home button 
but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up from the bottom takes 
you home and a longer swipe opens the app switcher. The vibrations are 
helpful but once you do it a few times, you learn how far you must swipe 
up for each function. Battery life seems really good especially if you 
turn the brightness all the way down and turn off the true tone, over all 
it's a great phone for my collection.


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RE: got a new toy!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Having more is not always what it's cracked up to be, Gerado. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

Wow you guys are the envi! I sure wish I could get somehow sponsors for my 
“Ciberaprendiendo” podcast so I can feature the latest and greatest! Any tips? 
I’m working like a donkey and don’t get paid over there, thus at least I’d like 
to get worthwhile pocasts done, hoping I can get sponsors.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 10:25 a. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:

> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so I 
> have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the Apple store 
> only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. Unfortunately the Mophie 
> juice pack is not available for this phone, at least not yet. I wasn't sure 
> how easy it would be to get used to not having a home button but it wasn't 
> too bad, basically a short swipe up from the bottom takes you home and a 
> longer swipe opens the app switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you 
> do it a few times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. 
> Battery life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the 
> way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
> collection.
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Re: Force a return in text message with braille display

[Richard Turner]

That is the default behavior even with an external bluetooth QWERTY keyboard.
I think Apple assumes text messages are not needing paragraphs, or even hard 
returns.
In Excel, you can do alt-Enter, but I have no idea if that works in text 
messages.
I doubt it.
I just use punctuation in messages.
Richard




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> Hi all, does anyone know how to force a return in a text message? When using 
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> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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RE: got a new toy!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Must be nice to be rich *smile*
I would love an XR, I could afford one but I really just don't see the need at 
this point and I never found much use for having more than one cell phone. When 
I bought my current 6S Plus I first kept my 5S and thought I would use it at 
home, for Audible and all that. I quickly noticed I just never did so I sold it.

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Subject: got a new toy!

So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so 
I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the 
Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. 
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least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not 
having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up 
from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the app 
switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few times, 
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Re: got a new toy!

[Gerardo Corripio]

Wow you guys are the envi! I sure wish I could get somehow sponsors for my 
“Ciberaprendiendo” podcast so I can feature the latest and greatest! Any tips? 
I’m working like a donkey and don’t get paid over there, thus at least I’d like 
to get worthwhile pocasts done, hoping I can get sponsors.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 8 nov 2018, a la(s) 10:25 a. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:

> So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so I 
> have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the Apple store 
> only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. Unfortunately the Mophie 
> juice pack is not available for this phone, at least not yet. I wasn't sure 
> how easy it would be to get used to not having a home button but it wasn't 
> too bad, basically a short swipe up from the bottom takes you home and a 
> longer swipe opens the app switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you 
> do it a few times, you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. 
> Battery life seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the 
> way down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my 
> collection.
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Fighting and fighting with Lire RSS it suddenly closes on me

[Gerardo Corripio]

for those of you who use the Lire RS app, since its latest update, it closes on 
me all of a sudden, losing the article I was just reading! I uninstalled, 
reinstalled, set up everything again, and it’s still doing the same thing! I 
want to throw it out the window! What ideas/suggestions might you guys have 
aside from again uninstalling, reinstalling, etc? This is getting frustrating! 
And I use a lot RSS feeds for tech news especially. thanks for info before I go 
mad.

Gera
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got a new toy!

[Mike Arrigo]

So, I decided to add another iphone to my collection, the Iphone XR, so 
I have an XR, an Iphone 8 and an Iphone SE. It's a nice phone, the 
Apple store only had one case for it which was an Otterbox. 
Unfortunately the Mophie juice pack is not available for this phone, at 
least not yet. I wasn't sure how easy it would be to get used to not 
having a home button but it wasn't too bad, basically a short swipe up 
from the bottom takes you home and a longer swipe opens the app 
switcher. The vibrations are helpful but once you do it a few times, 
you learn how far you must swipe up for each function. Battery life 
seems really good especially if you turn the brightness all the way 
down and turn off the true tone, over all it's a great phone for my collection.


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Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Traci Duncan]

Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really 
liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit 
are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to 
braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or 
four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the 
treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model 
is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I have seen.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been 
> resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 
> miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a 
> day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. 
> Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 
> 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're 
> expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in 
> all that nasty wind.`
> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
> with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, 
> you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something 
> that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
> identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the 
> Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There 
> were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
> mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
> great equalizer. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
> 
> CheersReg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Hi Reg,
> 
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My 
Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been 
resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 
miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. 
With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where 
we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or 
more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting 
another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that 
nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, 
you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something 
that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon 
list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon 
alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also 
some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I 
didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my 
results after my walk is good enough for me. 
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
great equalizer. 
   
Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian 
at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being 
listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure 
between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again 
I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every 
morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can 
do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return 
for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a 
dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the 
winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of 
course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to 
maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 
feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a 
base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
maintain and benefit from.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me 

Force a return in text message with braille display

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, does anyone know how to force a return in a text message? When using 
the braille display, any of the return commands sends the message.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: orbit reader 20 email list

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> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:41, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> hi all, and thank you.
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> Can someone please send me the orbit reader 20 email Less address, because I 
> accidentally deleted it. Thank you.
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> God bless,
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orbit reader 20 email list

[Lea W Langley]

hi all, and thank you.

Can someone please send me the orbit reader 20 email Less address, because I 
accidentally deleted it. Thank you.

God bless,
Wren

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Re: FYI orbit reader 20

['christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone]

Glad to hear it. Our UK distributors RNIB have been selling it since its debut 
last month, a month today to be precise. Enjoy!

> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:37, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> hi all,
> Just wanted to let you know that I called APH and the orbit reader is not 
> expected in for another two weeks.
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> God bless,
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FYI orbit reader 20

[Lea W Langley]

hi all,
Just wanted to let you know that I called APH and the orbit reader is not 
expected in for another two weeks.

God bless,
Wren Langley

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Re: Question about backup iPhone

[Janet Bell]

Hi why not go to setting on your iPhone and go to apple id then down to back up 
and it will tell you your last backup.  hth

From: 'evergreenwoods' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:13 AM
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Subject: Question about backup iPhone

Hello,

 

My iPhone 6S IOS 12 latest version has some problems and I got an appointment 
with Apple. I read that I must backup my phone before the visit. I clicked on 
backup in iTunes. However, can I be sure that I really did the backup, or what 
else do I have to do? Also, where can I find the backup file in my computer?

Rena

 

 

 

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Question about backup iPhone

['evergreenwoods' via VIPhone]

Hello,

 

My iPhone 6S IOS 12 latest version has some problems and I got an appointment 
with Apple. I read that I must backup my phone before the visit. I clicked on 
backup in iTunes. However, can I be sure that I really did the backup, or what 
else do I have to do? Also, where can I find the backup file in my computer?

Rena

 

 

 

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