Seven little words help

[Chris Chaffin]

Need help playing 7 little words.  There must be something I am not doing.  For 
some reason, I can not enter my answer, and I do not get a guess button.
This is what I do:
I double tap on the first clue, vegetable often mashed.
I then go and double tap on, p o, then t a, then t o.  And nothing happens or 
nothing changes.

Any help in how to enter answers would be appreciated!
And I did read the how to play section.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Deidre Muccio]

Definitely write them and tell them they should change guess to entry!

Deidre


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> Well!  I haven't made it to the 50 yet, but I am up to game #13 and there are 
> still 12 hours left for me to reach that magical number.
> Can I contact blueoxtech and beg them to replace "guess", which, really, gets 
> my goat as I am not * guessing which sounds so defeatist,  with, perhaps, 
> entry?
>  
> Jewel   
> From: Janet Bell
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seven Little Words
> 
> good luck, you can pay and have all the daily puzzles back to 2012, that 
> should keep you quiet for a while.  I still haven’t finished them as I try 
> and do some of the other puzzles.  not very good on the hard ones though.
>  
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stop transcribing when in voice mail

[Ann Chiappetta]

Hi,

Is there a way  in the current IOS to stop the transcribing when listening
to a voice mail?

TX

Annie

 

Ann M

 

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

Well!  I haven't made it to the 50 yet, but I am up to game #13 and there are 
still 12 hours left for me to reach that magical number.
Can I contact blueoxtech and beg them to replace "guess", which, really, gets 
my goat as I am not * guessing which sounds so defeatist,  with, perhaps, entry?

Jewel   

From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words


good luck, you can pay and have all the daily puzzles back to 2012, that should 
keep you quiet for a while.  I still haven’t finished them as I try and do some 
of the other puzzles.  not very good on the hard ones though.

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Re: Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Yes we did delete the app and then reinstalled it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As Regina said, it can often help to simply delete the app and then download 
> it again from the app store, sign in again and see if that makes a difference.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Yes, we do have to sign in with a password. We are gonna try and talk to 
> someone in their tech department to see if they can solve some of our voice 
> over problems. Thanks so much for your help. Do feel some better about it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Not really, but I find it strange that a financial institution doesn't 
>> update their  up in over a year. Anyhow, if somebody theoretically could 
>> access your iPhone then they still couldn't use your bank app because I 
>> assume you do have to sign in with your account or bank card number and a 
>> password? They would also need to know your bank password/log in credentials 
>> at which point it would be much easier for somebody to simply log in via a 
>> web browser. I really wouldn't worry, the iPhone is the most secure phone 
>> out there and hacking is just not something you hear about. After all, even 
>> the US government had one heck of a hard time to get access to the iPhone of 
>> that guy who shot all these people in California and that was a much less 
>> secure version of iOS as what we have now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Iphone question
>> 
>> Yes, we always close the app and have rebooted the phone. We looked to see 
>> when the app was update and it was sometimes last year. They replaced the 
>> app with a new app and it has never worked as well as the other app. There 
>> are voiceover problems, but haven't had the problem we have had lately. 
>> Nothing has been bothered in our accounts. But weird things happen and it 
>> just worries me. Have you ever heard of an iphone being hacked? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on 
>>> a computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged 
>>> into my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
>>> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
>>> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
>>> today all was fine again.
>>> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
>>> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Iphone question
>>> 
>>> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
>>> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in 
>>> and it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could 
>>> log in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
>>> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
>>> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
>>> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
>>> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
>>> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
>>> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
>>> Nancy and Gary 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
 I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it 
 might help.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of GARY WILLIAMS
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Iphone question
 
 Hi everyone,
 Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? 
 Thanks for your help. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

On the iPhone there is no USB-C port, still regular Lightning which is similar, 
but still not the same. Apple is not known for giving stuff away which is why 
they are so rich so they probably see no reason to include this. They provide 
the regular Lightning cable which may also have to do with compatibility, after 
all, there still probably are a lot more PC’s and laptops out there with USB 
ports which don’t have USB-C, if they only included a USB-C cable you probably 
would get a ton of complaints from people who don’t have it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:15 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You’re right, Sieghard. But if that’s the case, they should include that new 
wall plug and cable with the device, and not the old standard they’re moving 
away from. They wouldn’t need to include the higher wattage plug, of course, 
but they could include the standard wall plug for an iPhone that fits the USB-C 
plug. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing 

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

You’re right, Sieghard. But if that’s the case, they should include that new 
wall plug and cable with the device, and not the old standard they’re moving 
away from. They wouldn’t need to include the higher wattage plug, of course, 
but they could include the standard wall plug for an iPhone that fits the USB-C 
plug. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: 

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X 

Re: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Caitlyn Furness]

Thanks-got it fixed!  We bought him the particular albums he wanted a while 
ago, so I snagged them from our family purchases section and redownloaded them. 
 so now, they are happily residing on his pc!

We’ve thought about apple music, but just don’t want to pay a monthly 
subscription at this point.  that might change later, but for now, we’re good!  
It is a good deal, though, for families.

Cait

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Why not subscribe to Apple Music, depending on the price of the albums for 
> what it costs to buy these albums you can already pay for Apple Music for a 
> couple of months.
> For $14.99 you can have the family subscription which means both you you can 
> use it, have their own preferences, likes, recommendations and so on. As long 
> as you keep up the subscription you can stream or download as much of the 40 
> Million songs iTunes has, well, I guess when it comes to downloading you'd 
> fill up even a 256 Gb iPhone after maybe 40,000 songs.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer
> 
> Oh, thanks!  We thought we were going crazy!!
> 
> It’s only a couple of albums, so if we get them from i tunes again, stick 
> them on his pc, then we can have them there as well, right?
> 
> Cait
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> What yu are doing syncs from his PC to the iPhone, iTunes does not allow for 
>> content on the phone to be synced in reverse to the PC. For that you need 
>> something like CopyTrans or iTools all of which are completely inaccessible.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto 
>> his pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, 
>> the stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.
>> 
>> Here’s what we’ve done so far:
>> attach i phone to pc.
>> open i tunes
>> click on the i phone button
>> tab over to the list box and select music tab over to the area where it 
>> talks about synching the entire music library(this is checked) tab over to 
>> synch and select that select done after it’s done.
>> 
>> He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
>> windows, so any help would be wonderful!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Caitlyn
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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone 

RE: Iphone question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As Regina said, it can often help to simply delete the app and then download it 
again from the app store, sign in again and see if that makes a difference.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone question

Yes, we do have to sign in with a password. We are gonna try and talk to 
someone in their tech department to see if they can solve some of our voice 
over problems. Thanks so much for your help. Do feel some better about it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not really, but I find it strange that a financial institution doesn't update 
> their  up in over a year. Anyhow, if somebody theoretically could access your 
> iPhone then they still couldn't use your bank app because I assume you do 
> have to sign in with your account or bank card number and a password? They 
> would also need to know your bank password/log in credentials at which point 
> it would be much easier for somebody to simply log in via a web browser. I 
> really wouldn't worry, the iPhone is the most secure phone out there and 
> hacking is just not something you hear about. After all, even the US 
> government had one heck of a hard time to get access to the iPhone of that 
> guy who shot all these people in California and that was a much less secure 
> version of iOS as what we have now.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Yes, we always close the app and have rebooted the phone. We looked to see 
> when the app was update and it was sometimes last year. They replaced the app 
> with a new app and it has never worked as well as the other app. There are 
> voiceover problems, but haven't had the problem we have had lately. Nothing 
> has been bothered in our accounts. But weird things happen and it just 
> worries me. Have you ever heard of an iphone being hacked? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
>> computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into 
>> my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
>> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
>> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
>> today all was fine again.
>> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
>> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Iphone question
>> 
>> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
>> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in 
>> and it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could 
>> log in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
>> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
>> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
>> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
>> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
>> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
>> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
>> Nancy and Gary 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
>>> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it 
>>> might help.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Iphone question
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? 
>>> Thanks for your help. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Mary Otten]

The fact that their native language that they speak, whatever it is, is better 
than mine, is totally irrelevant. I don't live there, I don't need the language 
they speak. I need them to speak the language I speak. And if they can't, there 
is a problem. That's all I'm saying. I certainly would not be able to do that 
job in a second language except for perhaps Russian, and we don't have any call 
centers in Russia. Go figure so I will never get a chance to make some Russian 
call center representatives life easier by using their language instead of mine.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> That and I would venture to guess that their English is better than anyone's  
> Tagalog or Spanish or Hindi who may be calling in. I work in the interpreting 
> field and can attest as to how being able to dominate a second language to 
> the point where you can find and hold down gainful employment and even more 
> so  in such a specialized field to be no small achievement.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my 
> carrier
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the process 
> it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you can always 
> stop before finalizing the order.
> As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in North 
> America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much. Having said 
> this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first of all, they 
> can only be as good as the training they get and secondly I have had some of 
> them who were awesome and I have dealt with north american based support 
> where they had no clue, either. Apple is one such example, the few times I 
> called Apple Accessible it was pretty good, but I have called the general 
> sales line and dealt with people who were in the US who had absolutely no 
> clue whatsoever what I or they for that matter were talking about.
> My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now 
> and over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if you 
> end up working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the items 
> we all want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was younger 
> so I do know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all keep this in 
> mind the next time before you feel like giving one of these people a hard 
> time; it's not their fault they were born there or that our wealthy 
> corporations go there for cheap labour so our welathy society can buy a $20 
> bluetooth headset on Amazon.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Thanks. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:12 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I had the same problem. I deleted the app. Next I logged into my bank online. 
> At the top of the login screen is a place where it asks if you want to use 
> the app. I asked for the app, and it sent me to the app store. I downloaded 
> the app, went to it after download and double tapped on it. Now I had a fresh 
> login screen. I put in everything as if I was a new user. Logged in, and from 
> that point I had "everything back as it was. Working perfectly now. Hope this 
> helps a bit. 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
> computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into 
> my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
> today all was fine again.
> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
> it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log 
> in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
> Nancy and Gary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
>> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
>> help.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Iphone question
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
>> for your help. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[lenron brown]

I called a couple times just to check my order was right even though
on the T-mobile page it was. I am not buying my device out right
though. Going to pay the 45 down plus the sales tax. Then pay the
watch off in 3 or so months. Maybe get apple on the phone if you can't
get threw to T-Mobile.

On 9/17/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
> My problem isn't with where you live, it's when you can't communicate well
> enough with someone who doesn't speak your language, which I don't, so that
> the communications just don't get where they need to be. And no, you don't
> pick a carrier when you do the ordering process with Apple. I got all the
> way to having the stuff in my shopping bag, so that the next step would've
> been to pay. So no carrier selection. I should add that I was not rude or
> nasty to the representative. We just were not communicating. She seemed to
> say one thing, and then when I would repeat back what I understood her 12
> said, the story changed and changed back. So, I think we have a language
> issue, something that I have not experienced with US based representatives.
> That isn't to say that they're all geniuses. I'm not a genius. But I do like
> to be able to have a good feeling that the communications between me and the
> representative have been 100% clear. That doesn't mean you can't get wrong
> info, it just takes the language issue out of the equation.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the
>> process it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you
>> can always stop before finalizing the order.
>> As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in
>> North America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much.
>> Having said this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first
>> of all, they can only be as good as the training they get and secondly I
>> have had some of them who were awesome and I have dealt with north
>> american based support where they had no clue, either. Apple is one such
>> example, the few times I called Apple Accessible it was pretty good, but I
>> have called the general sales line and dealt with people who were in the
>> US who had absolutely no clue whatsoever what I or they for that matter
>> were talking about.
>> My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now
>> and over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if
>> you end up working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the
>> items we all want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was
>> younger so I do know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all
>> keep this in mind the next time before you feel like giving one of these
>> people a hard time; it's not their fault they were born there or that our
>> wealthy corporations go there for cheap labour so our welathy society can
>> buy a $20 bluetooth headset on Amazon.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my
>> carrier
>>
>> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so
>> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through
>> T-Mobile, or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering
>> straight from Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I
>> called T-Mobile today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of
>> those folks overseas, and we clearly were not communicating well. She told
>> me one thing and then seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I
>> guess I will call them again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through
>> Apple and get AppleCare, but I want to make sure I would get the three
>> month free trial at Cetera. And there might be other advantages. Has
>> anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do you understand any
>> differences between going that way or going through your carrier? I hope
>> when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had pretty good
>> luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those overseas
>> people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, and I
>> had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. I
>> thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Cristóbal]

That and I would venture to guess that their English is better than anyone's  
Tagalog or Spanish or Hindi who may be calling in. I work in the interpreting 
field and can attest as to how being able to dominate a second language to the 
point where you can find and hold down gainful employment and even more so  in 
such a specialized field to be no small achievement.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

Hi Mary,

Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the process 
it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you can always 
stop before finalizing the order.
As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in North 
America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much. Having said 
this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first of all, they can 
only be as good as the training they get and secondly I have had some of them 
who were awesome and I have dealt with north american based support where they 
had no clue, either. Apple is one such example, the few times I called Apple 
Accessible it was pretty good, but I have called the general sales line and 
dealt with people who were in the US who had absolutely no clue whatsoever what 
I or they for that matter were talking about.
My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now and 
over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if you end up 
working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the items we all 
want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was younger so I do 
know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all keep this in mind the 
next time before you feel like giving one of these people a hard time; it's not 
their fault they were born there or that our wealthy corporations go there for 
cheap labour so our welathy society can buy a $20 bluetooth headset on Amazon.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so maybe. 
I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, or if 
there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from Apple. 
Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile today, 
which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, and we 
clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then seem to 
contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them again 
tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, but I want 
to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And there might 
be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do 
you understand any differences between going that way or going through your 
carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had 
pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those 
overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, 
and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. 
I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks. 


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Re: Iphone question

[regina alvarado]

I had the same problem. I deleted the app. Next I logged into my bank online. 
At the top of the login screen is a place where it asks if you want to use the 
app. I asked for the app, and it sent me to the app store. I downloaded the 
app, went to it after download and double tapped on it. Now I had a fresh login 
screen. I put in everything as if I was a new user. Logged in, and from that 
point I had "everything back as it was. Working perfectly now. Hope this helps 
a bit. 


Reggie and Lex


On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into my 
Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my accounts 
showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't really worried 
about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, today all was fine 
again.
Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
phone? Did the app have a recent update?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone question

Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log in 
other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain accounts. 
We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called Apple and they 
never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what would the phone do 
or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how would we know? Is 
their something you can check in the phone that would let you know if the phone 
has been hacked? 
Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
Nancy and Gary 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
> help.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone question
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
> for your help. 
> 
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Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Mary Otten]

My problem isn't with where you live, it's when you can't communicate well 
enough with someone who doesn't speak your language, which I don't, so that the 
communications just don't get where they need to be. And no, you don't pick a 
carrier when you do the ordering process with Apple. I got all the way to 
having the stuff in my shopping bag, so that the next step would've been to 
pay. So no carrier selection. I should add that I was not rude or nasty to the 
representative. We just were not communicating. She seemed to say one thing, 
and then when I would repeat back what I understood her 12 said, the story 
changed and changed back. So, I think we have a language issue, something that 
I have not experienced with US based representatives. That isn't to say that 
they're all geniuses. I'm not a genius. But I do like to be able to have a good 
feeling that the communications between me and the representative have been 
100% clear. That doesn't mean you can't get wrong info, it just takes the 
language issue out of the equation.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the process 
> it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you can always 
> stop before finalizing the order.
> As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in North 
> America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much. Having said 
> this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first of all, they 
> can only be as good as the training they get and secondly I have had some of 
> them who were awesome and I have dealt with north american based support 
> where they had no clue, either. Apple is one such example, the few times I 
> called Apple Accessible it was pretty good, but I have called the general 
> sales line and dealt with people who were in the US who had absolutely no 
> clue whatsoever what I or they for that matter were talking about.
> My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now 
> and over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if you 
> end up working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the items 
> we all want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was younger 
> so I do know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all keep this in 
> mind the next time before you feel like giving one of these people a hard 
> time; it's not their fault they were born there or that our wealthy 
> corporations go there for cheap labour so our welathy society can buy a $20 
> bluetooth headset on Amazon.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
> 
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Re: Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Yes, we do have to sign in with a password. We are gonna try and talk to 
someone in their tech department to see if they can solve some of our voice 
over problems. Thanks so much for your help. Do feel some better about it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not really, but I find it strange that a financial institution doesn't update 
> their  up in over a year. Anyhow, if somebody theoretically could access your 
> iPhone then they still couldn't use your bank app because I assume you do 
> have to sign in with your account or bank card number and a password? They 
> would also need to know your bank password/log in credentials at which point 
> it would be much easier for somebody to simply log in via a web browser. I 
> really wouldn't worry, the iPhone is the most secure phone out there and 
> hacking is just not something you hear about. After all, even the US 
> government had one heck of a hard time to get access to the iPhone of that 
> guy who shot all these people in California and that was a much less secure 
> version of iOS as what we have now.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Yes, we always close the app and have rebooted the phone. We looked to see 
> when the app was update and it was sometimes last year. They replaced the app 
> with a new app and it has never worked as well as the other app. There are 
> voiceover problems, but haven't had the problem we have had lately. Nothing 
> has been bothered in our accounts. But weird things happen and it just 
> worries me. Have you ever heard of an iphone being hacked? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
>> computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into 
>> my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
>> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
>> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
>> today all was fine again.
>> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
>> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Iphone question
>> 
>> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
>> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in 
>> and it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could 
>> log in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
>> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
>> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
>> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
>> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
>> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
>> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
>> Nancy and Gary 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
>>> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it 
>>> might help.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Iphone question
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? 
>>> Thanks for your help. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, if  you don't want a monthly subscription and own said albums on CD why 
not just rip them onto the computer and then you have them on the computer and 
you can then sync to your iPhone including these albums.
By the way an individual Apple Music subscription is $9.99 a month and if you 
like listening to the same stuff you could just subscribe to that and both sign 
into Apple Music with the same Apple Id. For me the extra $5 make sense 
especially since my wife and I do have very different tastes.

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Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

Oh, thanks!  We thought we were going crazy!!

It’s only a couple of albums, so if we get them from i tunes again, stick them 
on his pc, then we can have them there as well, right?

Cait

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What yu are doing syncs from his PC to the iPhone, iTunes does not allow for 
> content on the phone to be synced in reverse to the PC. For that you need 
> something like CopyTrans or iTools all of which are completely inaccessible.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto 
> his pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, 
> the stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.
> 
> Here’s what we’ve done so far:
> attach i phone to pc.
> open i tunes
> click on the i phone button
> tab over to the list box and select music tab over to the area where it talks 
> about synching the entire music library(this is checked) tab over to synch 
> and select that select done after it’s done.
> 
> He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
> windows, so any help would be wonderful!
> 
> Thanks!
> Caitlyn
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RE: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not subscribe to Apple Music, depending on the price of the albums for what 
it costs to buy these albums you can already pay for Apple Music for a couple 
of months.
For $14.99 you can have the family subscription which means both you you can 
use it, have their own preferences, likes, recommendations and so on. As long 
as you keep up the subscription you can stream or download as much of the 40 
Million songs iTunes has, well, I guess when it comes to downloading you'd fill 
up even a 256 Gb iPhone after maybe 40,000 songs.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

Oh, thanks!  We thought we were going crazy!!

It’s only a couple of albums, so if we get them from i tunes again, stick them 
on his pc, then we can have them there as well, right?

Cait

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What yu are doing syncs from his PC to the iPhone, iTunes does not allow for 
> content on the phone to be synced in reverse to the PC. For that you need 
> something like CopyTrans or iTools all of which are completely inaccessible.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto 
> his pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, 
> the stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.
> 
> Here’s what we’ve done so far:
> attach i phone to pc.
> open i tunes
> click on the i phone button
> tab over to the list box and select music tab over to the area where it talks 
> about synching the entire music library(this is checked) tab over to synch 
> and select that select done after it’s done.
> 
> He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
> windows, so any help would be wonderful!
> 
> Thanks!
> Caitlyn
> 
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RE: Iphone question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not really, but I find it strange that a financial institution doesn't update 
their  up in over a year. Anyhow, if somebody theoretically could access your 
iPhone then they still couldn't use your bank app because I assume you do have 
to sign in with your account or bank card number and a password? They would 
also need to know your bank password/log in credentials at which point it would 
be much easier for somebody to simply log in via a web browser. I really 
wouldn't worry, the iPhone is the most secure phone out there and hacking is 
just not something you hear about. After all, even the US government had one 
heck of a hard time to get access to the iPhone of that guy who shot all these 
people in California and that was a much less secure version of iOS as what we 
have now.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone question

Yes, we always close the app and have rebooted the phone. We looked to see when 
the app was update and it was sometimes last year. They replaced the app with a 
new app and it has never worked as well as the other app. There are voiceover 
problems, but haven't had the problem we have had lately. Nothing has been 
bothered in our accounts. But weird things happen and it just worries me. Have 
you ever heard of an iphone being hacked? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
> computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into 
> my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
> today all was fine again.
> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
> it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log 
> in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
> Nancy and Gary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
>> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
>> help.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Iphone question
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
>> for your help. 
>> 
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Re: Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Yes, we always close the app and have rebooted the phone. We looked to see when 
the app was update and it was sometimes last year. They replaced the app with a 
new app and it has never worked as well as the other app. There are voiceover 
problems, but haven't had the problem we have had lately. Nothing has been 
bothered in our accounts. But weird things happen and it just worries me. Have 
you ever heard of an iphone being hacked? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
> computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into 
> my Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my 
> accounts showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't 
> really worried about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, 
> today all was fine again.
> Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
> phone? Did the app have a recent update?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone question
> 
> Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
> The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
> it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log 
> in other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain 
> accounts. We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called 
> Apple and they never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what 
> would the phone do or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how 
> would we know? Is their something you can check in the phone that would let 
> you know if the phone has been hacked? 
> Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
> Nancy and Gary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
>> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
>> help.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Iphone question
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
>> for your help. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the process 
it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you can always 
stop before finalizing the order.
As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in North 
America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much. Having said 
this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first of all, they can 
only be as good as the training they get and secondly I have had some of them 
who were awesome and I have dealt with north american based support where they 
had no clue, either. Apple is one such example, the few times I called Apple 
Accessible it was pretty good, but I have called the general sales line and 
dealt with people who were in the US who had absolutely no clue whatsoever what 
I or they for that matter were talking about.
My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now and 
over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if you end up 
working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the items we all 
want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was younger so I do 
know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all keep this in mind the 
next time before you feel like giving one of these people a hard time; it's not 
their fault they were born there or that our wealthy corporations go there for 
cheap labour so our welathy society can buy a $20 bluetooth headset on Amazon.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so maybe. 
I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, or if 
there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from Apple. 
Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile today, 
which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, and we 
clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then seem to 
contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them again 
tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, but I want 
to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And there might 
be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do 
you understand any differences between going that way or going through your 
carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had 
pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those 
overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, 
and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. 
I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks. 


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Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Anna. I've heard a couple of people talking about problems they're 
having with the iOS 11 beta, so since I didn't participate in that cycle, and 
have no first-hand experience, I will probably wait a couple of days to hear 
about the bugs and then decide if I want to order a Watch or just wait. I know 
I have to have iOS 11 to use this new watch. I really like the idea of being 
able to leave my phone at home, but depending on what the issues are with iOS 
11, an immediate upgrade might not be in my future. So maybe it's a good thing 
I'm having a problem with that email. Thanks again.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> AT had no clue about the watches when I called last week to ask about their 
> plan, so I ordered from Apple. I wasn't asked to pick a carrier during the 
> ordering process, so I guess whatever linking of my watch to my mobile 
> account and phone will need to be done once the watch gets here. So I don't 
> see any advantage in ordering from the carrier.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
>> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
>> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
>> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
>> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks 
>> overseas, and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing 
>> and then seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will 
>> call them again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get 
>> AppleCare, but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at 
>> Cetera. And there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch 
>> straight from Apple? And do you understand any differences between going 
>> that way or going through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow 
>> I get somebody in the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last 
>> week, I got another one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed 
>> up an order changing my data plan, and I had to call back and get 
>> tech-support from the United States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was 
>> getting rid of their overseas support folks. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Caitlyn Furness]

Oh, thanks!  We thought we were going crazy!!

It’s only a couple of albums, so if we get them from i tunes again, stick them 
on his pc, then we can have them there as well, right?

Cait

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What yu are doing syncs from his PC to the iPhone, iTunes does not allow for 
> content on the phone to be synced in reverse to the PC. For that you need 
> something like CopyTrans or iTools all of which are completely inaccessible.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29 PM
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> Subject: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto 
> his pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, 
> the stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.
> 
> Here’s what we’ve done so far:
> attach i phone to pc.
> open i tunes
> click on the i phone button
> tab over to the list box and select music tab over to the area where it talks 
> about synching the entire music library(this is checked) tab over to synch 
> and select that select done after it’s done.
> 
> He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
> windows, so any help would be wonderful!
> 
> Thanks!
> Caitlyn
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RE: iCloud and Outlook2016 for Windows question.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Malcolm,

Because of a change in iCloud security standards, app-specific passwords are 
now required for any third-party app/application, including Microsoft products, 
in order to access iCloud data.  

Therefore, in order for you to continue to use Microsoft Outlook to access your 
iCloud account, you will need to generate an app-specific password.  

The following link will take you to an article that describes how this is done. 
 It’s really quite easy.  

As a side note, you can use this newly created password for more than one 
app/application. 

Article at:
https://www.imore.com/how-generate-app-specific-passwords-iphone-ipad-mac

Good Luck,

Mark  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud and Outlook2016 for Windows question.

Hello fellow list members.

I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the issue I am having with iCloud and 
Outlook2016 running on a Windows10 system.

I have downloaded iCloud for Windows and have it correctly configured I can 
access my photos and iCloud Drive.

However, when I start Outlook2016 I am asked to log into my iCloud account.

Having entered what I believe are the correct details – my Apple ID and its 
password the dialog box reappears as something is incorrectly entered.  I have 
ticked the remember password checkbox but to no avail.  I can sign into iCloud 
with Internet Explorer but cannot get Outlook to login.

Any thoughts welcome.

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Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Mary,

AT had no clue about the watches when I called last week to ask about their 
plan, so I ordered from Apple. I wasn't asked to pick a carrier during the 
ordering process, so I guess whatever linking of my watch to my mobile account 
and phone will need to be done once the watch gets here. So I don't see any 
advantage in ordering from the carrier.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 17, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
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RE: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What yu are doing syncs from his PC to the iPhone, iTunes does not allow for 
content on the phone to be synced in reverse to the PC. For that you need 
something like CopyTrans or iTools all of which are completely inaccessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

Hi,
I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto his 
pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, the 
stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.

Here’s what we’ve done so far:
attach i phone to pc.
open i tunes
click on the i phone button
tab over to the list box and select music tab over to the area where it talks 
about synching the entire music library(this is checked) tab over to synch and 
select that select done after it’s done.

He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
windows, so any help would be wonderful!

Thanks!
Caitlyn

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Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Mary Otten]

I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so maybe. 
I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, or if 
there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from Apple. 
Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile today, 
which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, and we 
clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then seem to 
contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them again 
tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, but I want 
to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And there might 
be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do 
you understand any differences between going that way or going through your 
carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had 
pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those 
overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, 
and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. 
I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks. 


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getting songs and artists from i phone to computer

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
I am trying to help my hubby get some songs/albums off of his i phone onto his 
pc.  I thought I knew how to do this, but every time we do this process, the 
stuff he wants doesn’t synch to his pc.

Here’s what we’ve done so far:
attach i phone to pc.
open i tunes
click on the i phone button
tab over to the list box and select music
tab over to the area where it talks about synching the entire music 
library(this is checked)
tab over to synch and select that
select done after it’s done.

He is using a pc with jaws, if that matters.  I am almost hopeless with 
windows, so any help would be wonderful!

Thanks!
Caitlyn

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RE: Iphone question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nothing you can check, did you simply try to login to your bank website on a 
computer? I actually for the first time had a situation where I logged into my 
Scotia account here in Canada with the app on the phone and all my accounts 
showed up but didn't give me a balance but showed N/A. I wasn't really worried 
about it as I assume it is a temporary glitch and so it was, today all was fine 
again.
Have you tried to simply close all apps in the app switcher and reboot your 
phone? Did the app have a recent update?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone question

Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log in 
other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain accounts. 
We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called Apple and they 
never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what would the phone do 
or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how would we know? Is 
their something you can check in the phone that would let you know if the phone 
has been hacked? 
Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
Nancy and Gary 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
> help.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Hi everyone,
> Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
> for your help. 
> 
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Re: Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Sorry about the delay in replying to this. 
The problem involved was in our banking app. We would be trying to log in and 
it would continue to say logging in and it wouldn't. Then when we could log in 
other weird things happed such as not being able to go in to certain accounts. 
We called the bank and they said it wasn't them. Then we called Apple and they 
never would answer the question. So, we began to wonder what would the phone do 
or act like if it had been hacked. Would we know and how would we know? Is 
their something you can check in the phone that would let you know if the phone 
has been hacked? 
Thanks for any input or suggestions that you might have. 
Nancy and Gary 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
> I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
> help.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> GARY WILLIAMS
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone question
> 
> Hi everyone,
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Re: I am stressed now.

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

thank you I will try to copy and cut many of the video and photos to an 
external drive to see if that will allow me more room with dropbox.  Andy and 
Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: I am stressed now.


I have been in direct communication with the developer and due to personal 
reasons, she is not going to develop the app any further. She is willing to 
sell it to another developer, but that was at least 2 years ago and no one has 
stepped up. I will reload the app and see if I can get the process to copy the 
files off to the computer sorted out. I think that was an option.
I'll start a new thread as the subject "I am stressed now," doesn't even hint 
what the topic is.
I would have just deleted it but I heard the first couple lines from the 
preview.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:


  The following definitely is an if there is no other option solution, but 
connect your iPhone to some other recording device via the headphone jack and a 
patch cord, and record them to that device. As was suggested already, I 
definitely might not update to 11 until,  hopefully, they will update list 
recorder. 

  Arnold Schmidt 

  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

  On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


  Keep your current device and don’t update the iOS. When you can, get a new 
device, but keep all your ListRecorder saves where you know you can access 
them. Maybe not the best option, but certainly, it’s an option to keep on the 
table. Keith

   

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Andrew J. LaPointe
  Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I am stressed now.

   

  Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade my 
dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another way?  
I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  what 
some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and Shubert

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RE: Seven Little Words

[Raeleen Smith]

When you complete your first answer, say Armstrong, you need to double tap on 
the Guess button.  Then all should be well. Hope you enjoy Seven Little Words 
as much as I do.

 

Regards

Raeleen

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2017 4:22 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seven Little Words

 

 

I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.

I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

 

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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
You need a 

Re: Bluetooth 5 Audio headset? | AppleVis

[lenron brown]

I want some over the ear headphones that give me what I would get in
the airpods. I really don't want to spend $150 on air pods. I would
always feel like I would lose them even if I wouldn't.

On 9/17/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Since Bluetooth 5 seems to be just getting implemented into smartphones I
> suspect we'll start to see bluetooth 5 devices including headsets and
> earpieces soon. I will believe it really makes a big difference if I get to
> try it myself since apparently Bluetooth 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 were supposed to
> do the same. However, I have had Bluetooth 4 devices which were much worse
> when it comes to lag than some of my old bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0 devices and
> firmly believe it is all in how it is implemented and maybe what components
> are used. Let's hope Bluetooth 5 really offers a virtually lag-free
> experience.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bluetooth 5 Audio headset? | AppleVis
>
>
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/hardware-accessories/bluetooth-5-audio-headset
>
>
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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deb Lewis
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how to 
tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast charging them. All of 
the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.

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RE: Bluetooth 5 Audio headset? | AppleVis

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Since Bluetooth 5 seems to be just getting implemented into smartphones I 
suspect we'll start to see bluetooth 5 devices including headsets and earpieces 
soon. I will believe it really makes a big difference if I get to try it myself 
since apparently Bluetooth 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 were supposed to do the same. 
However, I have had Bluetooth 4 devices which were much worse when it comes to 
lag than some of my old bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0 devices and firmly believe it is 
all in how it is implemented and maybe what components are used. Let's hope 
Bluetooth 5 really offers a virtually lag-free experience.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Kevin Chao
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Subject: Bluetooth 5 Audio headset? | AppleVis


https://www.applevis.com/forum/hardware-accessories/bluetooth-5-audio-headset


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https://www.applevis.com/forum/hardware-accessories/bluetooth-5-audio-headset


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RE: Saving List Recorder Full recordings before upgrading to iOS 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

List Recorder was pretty cool in its day, one had the ability to record voice 
memos but also do text notes, one could create lists and in these lists have 
mixed voice and text notes and one could use motions like tilting the iPhone 
back, forward or left and right to do certain things like deleting notes, 
starting a note etc.
I also used it for a while, but as I mostly prefer just a simple recording app 
for the occasional quick voice memo and always found List Recorder too 
complicated and clunky. For me RecUp what used to be Dropvox also works well 
and I like the fact that your voice memos go straight to Dropbox where I can 
also access them from my PC and of course they are safe in terms of being 
backed up in the cloud.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Saving List Recorder Full recordings before upgrading to iOS 11

In the future, a good recording app is RecUp. I haven't used List Recorder so 
am not familiar with all of its capabilities. But RecUp will make a recording, 
and once the recording is complete automatically upload it to Dropbox.




On 9/17/2017 12:51 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Open List Recorder Full.
> Open one of the files.
> Double tap on share.
> Then double tap on audio functions.
> Then double tap on Open In.
> Depending on other apps you have you will find a variety of apps that you can 
> transfer the file to: OneDrive, DropBox, Audio Memos, Rev Voice Recorder, and 
> others.
> I believe the rev recorder is free and shows up simply as recorder.
> Double tap on the app and you may have to give some permissions, but it works 
> great.
> I was hoping Voice Dream Reader would have been an option, but it didn't show 
> up.
> You will get the strange number file name, so you will want to rename it 
> after it is in the other app, or write down a list with the new, meaningless 
> file name.
> I hope that helps.
> Richard
>

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Re: Saving List Recorder Full recordings before upgrading to iOS 11

[Kelby Carlson]

In the future, a good recording app is RecUp. I haven't used List 
Recorder so am not familiar with all of its capabilities. But RecUp will 
make a recording, and once the recording is complete automatically 
upload it to Dropbox.





On 9/17/2017 12:51 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Open List Recorder Full.
Open one of the files.
Double tap on share.
Then double tap on audio functions.
Then double tap on Open In.
Depending on other apps you have you will find a variety of apps that you can 
transfer the file to: OneDrive, DropBox, Audio Memos, Rev Voice Recorder, and 
others.
I believe the rev recorder is free and shows up simply as recorder.
Double tap on the app and you may have to give some permissions, but it works 
great.
I was hoping Voice Dream Reader would have been an option, but it didn't show 
up.
You will get the strange number file name, so you will want to rename it after 
it is in the other app, or write down a list with the new, meaningless file 
name.
I hope that helps.
Richard



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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Mary Otten]

Well, since I don't actually own a watch yet, I shouldn't be replying to this 
question about Morse code. But as a long time ham radio operator, that is 
certainly the system I would try first. It would be particularly nice if it 
work where you could just have a digits, assuming you know the hour. That seems 
like it would be pretty fast.
Mary


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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I use the Digits method with a long vibration for every 10 hours or minutes, 
> but I find that this system works great for minutes but makes no sense for 
> hours. If it’s 10 AM, 11 AM or Noon you get just the long tap, a long tap and 
> short tap and a long tap and two short taps, respectively. Once you get to 1 
> 1 PM, 2 PM, 3 PM etc. you get 1, 2, 3 short taps and so on. By the time you 
> get to 9 PM you have to really pay attention and here is what I think would 
> make a lot more sense for the hours (the minutes are fine):
> The day has 24 hours. Let’s start at Midnight. Why not long tap once for 
> Midnight (12 AM or 0 hours in military time). Then from 1 AM to 5 AM you get 
> a long tap and 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 short taps, respectively. Then at 6 AM you 
> get two long taps and again from 7 to 11 AM you get two long taps and 1 to 5 
> short taps. At Noon you get 3 long taps and again from 1 to 5 PM a short tap 
> is added for each hour. At 6 PM you get 4 long taps and from 7 PM to 11 PM 
> again a hort tap is added for each hour.
> This would make more sense to me, in order to have fewer long taps they could 
> also start with a single long tap at 6 AM since then for most of the hours 
> when people are awake you deal with one, 2 and 3 long taps and only for 
> Midnight to 6 AM you have 4 long taps followed by 1 to 5 short taps.
>  
> I’d really like to hear what other Apple Watch users think of that and also 
> which method they use. I know a lot of the older folks out there may be or 
> have been Ham radio users and know morse code and maybe they prefer that, but 
> it would be interesting to have a little survey of how many blind Apple Watch 
> users use the taptic time and which method they use.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over 
> settings for the watch.
> There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
> choices and the vibrations that work for each.
>  
> Digits:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten 
> hours, and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every 
> ten minutes, and short tap for each following minute.
>  
> Terse:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
> then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each 
> quarter hour.
>  
> Morse Code:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time 
> in Morse code.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> 

Re: Last meeting

[Richard Turner]

i do not know who you are or what forum you are talking about, but my guess is 
you sent your message to the wrong list. It came to the V;I;Phone users list.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Georgina Joyce 
> wrote:

Hello All,

I understand that the forum meeting expressed a vote of no confidence in me as 
chair.

This is an unlawful act and I do not accept these bullies and their dark 
activities.

Remember the constitution you passed?

It clearly states that I should be given an opportunity to defend myself. I 
don’t even know what the allegations made against me are or who proposed them.

Furthermore such a meeting requires special notices that contain details of the 
reasons for the meeting. Which have not took place.

Secretary, you need to give 14 days notice. Containing the reasons for the 
extraordinary meeting. Having established the facts. You people have just 
bullied and kept me in the dark. and not given me any chance to defend myself.

Here’s the ratified and signed parts of the constitution that are relevant..

Termination of membership.  The right is reserved to terminate the membership 
of any member acting in a manner likely to bring the organisation into 
disrepute, or be detrimental to the aims and objectives.   The member concerned 
will be given every opportunity to present their case, accompanied by a friend, 
if necessary.  The final decision will be taken by ordinary members in a 
general meeting.

Meetings
Meetings will be held on a regular basis throughout the year.  The quorum for 
the meetings will be 5 voting members.
Special General Meetings
Any 3 members can call an extraordinary meeting for special purposes, by 
writing to the secretary.  Resolutions can be passed, if signed by all the 
members, without the necessity for calling a general meeting.

This constitution may be amended at a Special General or Annual General 
Meeting, provided that members are given 14 days notice, with the exception of 
the Aims and Objectives and the Dissolution clauses.



Gena

Georgina Joyce
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Because individuals of groups matter!eorgina Joyce
g...@gena-j.me.uk





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Last meeting

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I understand that the forum meeting expressed a vote of no confidence in me as 
chair.

This is an unlawful act and I do not accept these bullies and their dark 
activities.

Remember the constitution you passed?

It clearly states that I should be given an opportunity to defend myself. I 
don’t even know what the allegations made against me are or who proposed them.

Furthermore such a meeting requires special notices that contain details of the 
reasons for the meeting. Which have not took place.

Secretary, you need to give 14 days notice. Containing the reasons for the 
extraordinary meeting. Having established the facts. You people have just 
bullied and kept me in the dark. and not given me any chance to defend myself.

Here’s the ratified and signed parts of the constitution that are relevant..

Termination of membership.  The right is reserved to terminate the membership 
of any member acting in a manner likely to bring the organisation into 
disrepute, or be detrimental to the aims and objectives.   The member concerned 
will be given every opportunity to present their case, accompanied by a friend, 
if necessary.  The final decision will be taken by ordinary members in a 
general meeting.

Meetings
Meetings will be held on a regular basis throughout the year.  The quorum for 
the meetings will be 5 voting members.
Special General Meetings 
Any 3 members can call an extraordinary meeting for special purposes, by 
writing to the secretary.  Resolutions can be passed, if signed by all the 
members, without the necessity for calling a general meeting.

This constitution may be amended at a Special General or Annual General 
Meeting, provided that members are given 14 days notice, with the exception of 
the Aims and Objectives and the Dissolution clauses.



Gena

Georgina Joyce
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Because individuals of groups matter!eorgina Joyce
g...@gena-j.me.uk




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RE: Voice Dream is updated for iOS 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Dropbox already mentioned full support for the new Files app in iOS 11 when 
their last update came out a few days ago, I think it was version 64.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream is updated for iOS 11

Here is the section from the What's New about the update.
What's New

4.4.0

Updated for iOS 11. We now support iOS 9, 10, and 11. iOS 8 is no longer 
supported.

Added support for loading documents using iOS 11 File Browser, which replaces 
the previous "Cloud Storage (iOS)" option. However, third party cloud storage 
providers such as Dropbox and Google Drive will not work smoothly from File 
Browser until they fully support iOS 11.

Added support for iOS 11 Drag and Drop for files and URLs.

Minor bug fixes and enhancements.

We don't bother you with popups asking for a review. But if you like Voice 
Dream Reader, please give us a 5-star review in the App Store. We'll be 
grateful. Just to go Settings in the Library, tap on Contact US and Write a 
Review.

If you run into a problem, there might be an easy fix or explanation. Please 
email us by tapping on Contact Us and Email Support. We can't help if it's 
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Voice Dream is updated for iOS 11

[Richard Turner]

Here is the section from the What's New about the update.
What's New

4.4.0

Updated for iOS 11. We now support iOS 9, 10, and 11. iOS 8 is no longer 
supported.

Added support for loading documents using iOS 11 File Browser, which replaces 
the previous "Cloud Storage (iOS)" option. However, third party cloud storage 
providers such as Dropbox and Google Drive will not work smoothly from File 
Browser until they fully support iOS 11.

Added support for iOS 11 Drag and Drop for files and URLs.

Minor bug fixes and enhancements.

We don't bother you with popups asking for a review. But if you like Voice 
Dream Reader, please give us a 5-star review in the App Store. We'll be 
grateful. Just to go Settings in the Library, tap on Contact US and Write a 
Review.

If you run into a problem, there might be an easy fix or explanation. Please 
email us by tapping on Contact Us and Email Support. We can't help if it's 
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Saving List Recorder Full recordings before upgrading to iOS 11

[Richard Turner]

Open List Recorder Full.
Open one of the files.
Double tap on share.
Then double tap on audio functions.
Then double tap on Open In.
Depending on other apps you have you will find a variety of apps that you can 
transfer the file to: OneDrive, DropBox, Audio Memos, Rev Voice Recorder, and 
others.
I believe the rev recorder is free and shows up simply as recorder.
Double tap on the app and you may have to give some permissions, but it works 
great.
I was hoping Voice Dream Reader would have been an option, but it didn't show 
up.
You will get the strange number file name, so you will want to rename it after 
it is in the other app, or write down a list with the new, meaningless file 
name.
I hope that helps.
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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Sports Loop would be similar to the Leather Loop which has been available 
for some time, the band is made from interlocking loops rather than a solid 
band. It is supposed to help with breathability since under the solid Sports 
Band if you get sweaty or if your arms is wet the moisture will sort of linger. 
Definitely worthwhile to check Amazon, what Apple charges for their bands is a 
total rip-off. You can buy a Milanese Loop stainless steel band with magnetic 
closure on Amazon for around $20 and Apple charges over $200 (that is here in 
Canada in Canadian Dollars). In the US it’s no different except that the 
Milanese Loop from Apple costs whatever it costs in US, maybe $150 or $160 and 
on Amazon.com you could probably get one for $15.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Chris already explained the methods, here your example with the Digits method, 
10:59:
You would get 1 long tap for 10 o’clock (it is assume the user knows if it’s 
morning or night)
Then there is a brief pause, then you get 5 more long taps each of which 
indicates 10 minutes and then 9 short taps.
If it were 11 o’clock exactly you would simply get one long tap followed by a 
short tap, long for 10 and one short for another hour, so 11 o’clock.
There is only a pause between the indication of hours and minutes. It works 
very well and you quickly get used to it. Obviously if it’s something like 9:59 
all the tapping takes a bit, you would first get 9 short taps for 9 hours, then 
a pause, then the 5 long taps followed by 9 more short taps.
If you already know the hour, say you are in a meeting which started at 2 PM 
and goes to 3 PM and you just want to check how long is left you can tap the 
watch 3 times and only the minutes are tapped out. If it were 2:36 you would 
only get 3 long taps and 6 short taps.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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iCloud and Outlook2016 for Windows question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello fellow list members.

 

I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the issue I am having with iCloud
and Outlook2016 running on a Windows10 system.

 

I have downloaded iCloud for Windows and have it correctly configured I can
access my photos and iCloud Drive.

 

However, when I start Outlook2016 I am asked to log into my iCloud account.

 

Having entered what I believe are the correct details - my Apple ID and its
password the dialog box reappears as something is incorrectly entered.  I
have ticked the remember password checkbox but to no avail.  I can sign into
iCloud with Internet Explorer but cannot get Outlook to login.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I use the Digits method with a long vibration for every 10 hours or minutes, 
but I find that this system works great for minutes but makes no sense for 
hours. If it’s 10 AM, 11 AM or Noon you get just the long tap, a long tap and 
short tap and a long tap and two short taps, respectively. Once you get to 1 1 
PM, 2 PM, 3 PM etc. you get 1, 2, 3 short taps and so on. By the time you get 
to 9 PM you have to really pay attention and here is what I think would make a 
lot more sense for the hours (the minutes are fine):
The day has 24 hours. Let’s start at Midnight. Why not long tap once for 
Midnight (12 AM or 0 hours in military time). Then from 1 AM to 5 AM you get a 
long tap and 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 short taps, respectively. Then at 6 AM you get 
two long taps and again from 7 to 11 AM you get two long taps and 1 to 5 short 
taps. At Noon you get 3 long taps and again from 1 to 5 PM a short tap is added 
for each hour. At 6 PM you get 4 long taps and from 7 PM to 11 PM again a hort 
tap is added for each hour.
This would make more sense to me, in order to have fewer long taps they could 
also start with a single long tap at 6 AM since then for most of the hours when 
people are awake you deal with one, 2 and 3 long taps and only for Midnight to 
6 AM you have 4 long taps followed by 1 to 5 short taps.

I’d really like to hear what other Apple Watch users think of that and also 
which method they use. I know a lot of the older folks out there may be or have 
been Ham radio users and know morse code and maybe they prefer that, but it 
would be interesting to have a little survey of how many blind Apple Watch 
users use the taptic time and which method they use.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over settings 
for the watch.
There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
choices and the vibrations that work for each.

Digits:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten hours, 
and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every ten 
minutes, and short tap for each following minute.

Terse:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each quarter 
hour.

Morse Code:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time in 
Morse code.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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Re: I am stressed now.

[Richard Turner]

I have been in direct communication with the developer and due to personal 
reasons, she is not going to develop the app any further. She is willing to 
sell it to another developer, but that was at least 2 years ago and no one has 
stepped up. I will reload the app and see if I can get the process to copy the 
files off to the computer sorted out. I think that was an option.
I'll start a new thread as the subject "I am stressed now," doesn't even hint 
what the topic is.
I would have just deleted it but I heard the first couple lines from the 
preview.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
> wrote:

The following definitely is an if there is no other option solution, but 
connect your iPhone to some other recording device via the headphone jack and a 
patch cord, and record them to that device. As was suggested already, I 
definitely might not update to 11 until,  hopefully, they will update list 
recorder.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:

Keep your current device and don’t update the iOS. When you can, get a new 
device, but keep all your ListRecorder saves where you know you can access 
them. Maybe not the best option, but certainly, it’s an option to keep on the 
table. Keith

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am stressed now.

Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade my 
dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another way?  
I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  what 
some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
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Re: Tune In Pro - Recording option seems to be missing

[Richard Turner]

while in the Twilight Zone, try clearing your app switcher and rebooting the 
phone.
If that doesn't solve it, then maybe they did change something or you will need 
to try to contact their support, or Rod Serling, whichever is easiest, grin.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:

Hi,

I was going to record a segment on the news this morning, as I have done weekly 
for years with this app (TuneIn Radio Pro), but was surprised to be unable to 
find a button for recording.

On the Home Screen tabs along the bottom, the Recordings tab is gone, too.

I’m signed in, and have had the TuneIn Pro version for years. I tried finding 
information about the current app within the app, but couldn’t find a version 
or anything. I am logged in correctly, and all my Favorites are there.

Have I entered the Twilight Zone, or is there something wrong with this app 
now? I believe there may have been a recent upgrade, but this may be the first 
time I’ve used it since.

Any ideas welcome. Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: I am stressed now.

[Arnold Schmidt]

The following definitely is an if there is no other option solution, but 
connect your iPhone to some other recording device via the headphone jack and a 
patch cord, and record them to that device. As was suggested already, I 
definitely might not update to 11 until,  hopefully, they will update list 
recorder. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:

Keep your current device and don’t update the iOS. When you can, get a new 
device, but keep all your ListRecorder saves where you know you can access 
them. Maybe not the best option, but certainly, it’s an option to keep on the 
table. Keith
 
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Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am stressed now.
 
Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade my 
dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another way?  
I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  what 
some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: some audio book questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

First of all, most of my listening I do at home so why not. Second, if I were 
out and about somewhere then I'm sure I could stream via my LTE connection just 
as I can stream Apple music, Youtube Videos etc. I guess if you don't have much 
data you might not want to do this, but I have 6 Gb of data included with my 
monthly unlimited Canada wide talk and text plan and almost never even get to 1 
Gb since when I have my normal routine I am at my store from 8 or 9 AM until 6 
or 6:30 PM and of course I am on WiFi there and then I go home where I am on 
WiFi again. My "commute" is a 20 minute leisurely walk from my house to my 
store, if I'm in a real rush I can do it in about 12 or 13 minutes. I usually 
listen to a book during this walk with just the right side of the Earpods in my 
ear because I live in a small town and I have just one intersection to cross 
where I stop the book and take the Earpods out even though there is an audible 
signal on the traffic light, but you never know when some idiot driver doesn't 
pay attention.
Anyways, if I could stream I would totally do that and only download if I am 
going away which usually means I am on an airplane for an hour and 45 minutes, 
I have not have downloaded music to my phone ever since I subscribed to Apple 
Music when it came out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions


I would ask, why would you want to stream a Audible book on your ios 
device?  You would have to be tied down to wi-fi.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

I just don't understand why they don't bring this feature to the iPhone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

A, thanks Rus, I knew I had seen streaming somewhere.

Chip


-Original Message-
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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon echo 
devices.

-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, but 
I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the web 
site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download them 
to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they will work 
even if I am out of cell range.

Chip


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does it 
work, you download them and they just come to your phone?
I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:
> Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is 
> really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app 
> or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works 
> as well on Windows.
>
> Another site for MP3 audio books is:
>
> https://www.downpour.com/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: some audio book questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is 
> the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books 
> accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to 
> buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you 
> recommend for apps?
>
> Cheers,

Re: I am stressed now.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You can save less than 2 GB at a time to Dropbox and then move the recordings 
elsewhere on your computer, so you won't have to upgrade Dropbox. List Recorder 
may also have an option to upload the files to your computer using a web 
server; I don't remember for sure. Check out all of its sharing options to find 
the best one.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Keep your current device and don’t update the iOS. When you can, get a new 
> device, but keep all your ListRecorder saves where you know you can access 
> them. Maybe not the best option, but certainly, it’s an option to keep on the 
> table. Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I am stressed now.
>  
> Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
> have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade 
> my dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another 
> way?  I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  
> what some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and 
> Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: List Recorder App and IOS 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And you can take the warning seriously, 32 bit apps will no longer work in iOS 
11. You can of course stay with iOS 10 for now, but you would just postpone the 
inevitable since you won’t be able to avoid upgrading forever so you might as 
well get your recordings on a computer and look for a different recording app.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: List Recorder App and IOS 11


The originator is not developing it any longer and no one has picked it up, so 
no, it will not be updated for iOS 11.
Very sad news.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:49 AM, Richard Petty 
> wrote:
Has there been any word on an update to List Recorder? This is an extremely 
useful app. I have a lot of material recorded in the app.

Do we know if the developer is updating the app? How seriously should we take 
the iOS 10 messages that the app will no longer be compatible with the next 
version of IOS—meaning IOS 11?

If the app is not updated and if it truly will not be compatible with iOS 11, 
how can one best move many audio recordings into a more commonly-readable audio 
file format? I haven’t found the apps internal conversion process to be at all 
intuitive.

Thanks for any help.

Richard Petty
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RE: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There isn’t one. Unfortunately so far pretty much all the third-party 
applications like CopyTrans, AnyTrans, iTools are inaccessible. WALTR2 is 
useable to some degree, but I don’t think it gives you quite the same 
flexibility to transfer content to and from an iPhone.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

Hello list
I installed itools 4 on windows 10 pc but when I open it I do not get any menus 
or info, just “blank, blank, blank” when I tab or downarrow. Can anyone give a 
correct link for an accessible version with jaws?
Regards
Fanus


From: MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

I downloaded the version of iTools for the PC from the same page, if that is
what you are referring to, since the original message is not showing..

-Original Message-
From: kg7...@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

Hi all, according to the page the link took me to, it only seems to be
available for the Mac.  Is there another page for the PC version, and
does it offer a trial?

Thanks in advance:
John


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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how to 
tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast charging them. All of 
the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.

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Tune In Pro - Recording option seems to be missing

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I was going to record a segment on the news this morning, as I have done weekly 
for years with this app (TuneIn Radio Pro), but was surprised to be unable to 
find a button for recording.

On the Home Screen tabs along the bottom, the Recordings tab is gone, too.

I'm signed in, and have had the TuneIn Pro version for years. I tried finding 
information about the current app within the app, but couldn't find a version 
or anything. I am logged in correctly, and all my Favorites are there.

Have I entered the Twilight Zone, or is there something wrong with this app 
now? I believe there may have been a recent upgrade, but this may be the first 
time I've used it since.

Any ideas welcome. Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[michv]

o i thought you were useing skype on your pc. sorry. then i am not shure. from 
Mich i don’t like the skype for ios. from Mich.

From: Stephanie Mitchell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:40 AM
To: Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

there is no menu bar. I'm using skype for ios. It has a new chat or call, my 
info but nothing about adding contacts.

Steph 
On 18/09/2017 1:26 am, =?UTF-8?B?TGllbCBCZW4gU2ltb24=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?4oCr15zXmdeQ15wg15HXnyDXodeZ157Xldef4oCs4oCO?=  
wrote:
>
> Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app 
> general, accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You 
> can demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.
>
> Sent from  my iphone
>
> ‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
>
>> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
>>
>> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
>> pattern will a person get?
>>
>> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
>> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
>> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
>> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
>> just tap the screen 3 times.
>>
>> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
>>> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
>>> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
>>> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
>>> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
>>> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of 
>>> choices first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to 
>>> have Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
>>> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen 
>>> to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what 
>>> is the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the 
>>> Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the 
>>> band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw 
>>> this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Chris Chaffin]

Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over settings 
for the watch.
There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
choices and the vibrations that work for each.

Digits:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten hours, 
and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every ten 
minutes, and short tap for each following minute.

Terse:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each quarter 
hour.

Morse Code:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time in 
Morse code.

HTH,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Stephanie Mitchell]

there is no menu bar. I'm using skype for ios. It has a new chat or call, my info but nothing about adding contacts.
Steph 
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>
> Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app general, accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You can demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.
>
> Sent from  my iphone
>
> ‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>
>> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
>>
>> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration pattern will a person get?
>>
>> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just tap the screen 3 times.
>>
>> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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RE: I am stressed now.

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Keep your current device and don’t update the iOS. When you can, get a new 
device, but keep all your ListRecorder saves where you know you can access 
them. Maybe not the best option, but certainly, it’s an option to keep on the 
table. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am stressed now.

Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade my 
dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another way?  
I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  what 
some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Thing i forgot:go too the Wotch app on your iPhone.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app general, 
accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You can 
demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
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> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: adding someone to skype

[michv]

hi go to the menu bar and then arrow right till you find contacts then arrow 
down and you will see add contact then you can add them to skype. hth. from 
Mich.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adding someone to skype

Hi all,

Can someone please tell me how to add someone to my skype? I can chat with a 
person but cant fin any add buton.

thanks,
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adding someone to skype

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Hi all,

Can someone please tell me how to add someone to my skype? I can chat with a 
person but cant fin any add buton.
thanks,
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I am stressed now.

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Hello, I just got word that list recorder full is not to work with IOS 11.  I 
have many precious recordings of my grandchildren on it.  Now, I can upgrade my 
dropbox to the plus to save the recordings to that but, is there another way?  
I can save some by email but, comcast does not allow files larger than  what 
some of these recordings are.  Please let me know my options!!  Andy and Shubert
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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Richard Turner]

So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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RE: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

[Richard Turner]

First letter did not work for me.
Richard


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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch 
using iTunes 12.7

Richard, can't you use first letter navigation in that list? It's been a while 
since I tried to use iTunes file sharing, but I never could get it to work for 
backing up my library to my computer like you were supposed to be able to do 
before the days of iCloud Sync. That's never worked well for me, either. 
Anyhow, it may be worth a shot to try and use first letter navigation to at 
least get to the apps that begin with V and then start arrowing down from there 
if necessary. I hope that works--it might save you some time! :) 


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Russ,
> Well, one could say it is accessible with Jaws if you are an extremely 
> patient person.
> With your device plugged in:
> Get to the spot where it says "summary"
> Arrow down until you get to file sharing.
> Tab many, many times to the list of apps that can use file sharing.
> Jaws on my system was extremely slow in reading app names, but once you get 
> there arrow down, slowly, very slowly, until you get to Voice Dream.
> Then, tab many more times to the add file button.
> Arrow down and right until you get to the file you want, then tab a bunch to 
> the open button and hit space.
> You can count on Jaws losing focus at least once in this process, at least my 
> system did.
> After you hit open, your file should appear in whatever folder you had open 
> on Voice Dream.
> 
> Why in hell they don't have hot keys to jump to these things is beyond me.
> I will stick with putting things on Dropbox or OneDrive and importing them 
> into Voice Dream that way.  This is stupid!
> I'm usually a very patient person, but this is a perfect example of how Apple 
> works on Windows.  I hope it is easier for those using Macs.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Then, shift tab to your drive list and plan to find your drive where it says 
> closed, arrow right to open.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
> 
> The reason I ask, I want to make sure I can still use itunes file sharing to 
> import content into voice dream reader before updating to itunes 12.7.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:34 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it 
> was before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? 
>> My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
>> touch using iTunes 12.7
>> 
>> Hi Russ,
>> 
>> Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list 
>> of content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file 
>>> sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I 
>>> stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
>>> touch using iTunes 12.7
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
>>> following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
>>> 
>>> The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
>>> manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes
>>> 
>>> You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS 
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
>>> manually syncing specific items to your device.
>>> 
>>> If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you 

Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Chris Chaffin]

Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 

You can change the volume of the watch by two finger double tapping and holding 
until you hear a soft ding, then dragging your fingers up and down to change 
the volume in that direction. The time is generally spoken immediately when you 
press the button on the crown. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

[Suzanne Wilson]

These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound
of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it
has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and
unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its
functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a
Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices
first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have
Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing
attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen
to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what
is the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the
Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the
band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw
this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

 

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

 

Suzanne

 

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Re: some audio book questions

[Russ Kiehne]

   I would ask, why would you want to stream a Audible book on your ios 
device?  You would have to be tied down to wi-fi.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

I just don't understand why they don't bring this feature to the iPhone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chip Orange

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

A, thanks Rus, I knew I had seen streaming somewhere.

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon 
echo devices.


-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, 
but I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).


Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chip Orange

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the 
web site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download 
them to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they 
will work even if I am out of cell range.


Chip


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed 
Barton

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does 
it work, you download them and they just come to your phone?

I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:

Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is
really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app
or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works
as well on Windows.

Another site for MP3 audio books is:

https://www.downpour.com/


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: some audio book questions

Hey guys,

OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is
the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books
accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to
buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you
recommend for apps?

Cheers,
Jed

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Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

[englishrider91]

Richard, can't you use first letter navigation in that list? It's been a while 
since I tried to use iTunes file sharing, but I never could get it to work for 
backing up my library to my computer like you were supposed to be able to do 
before the days of iCloud Sync. That's never worked well for me, either. 
Anyhow, it may be worth a shot to try and use first letter navigation to at 
least get to the apps that begin with V and then start arrowing down from there 
if necessary. I hope that works--it might save you some time! :) 


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Russ,
> Well, one could say it is accessible with Jaws if you are an extremely 
> patient person.
> With your device plugged in:
> Get to the spot where it says "summary"
> Arrow down until you get to file sharing.
> Tab many, many times to the list of apps that can use file sharing.
> Jaws on my system was extremely slow in reading app names, but once you get 
> there arrow down, slowly, very slowly, until you get to Voice Dream.
> Then, tab many more times to the add file button.
> Arrow down and right until you get to the file you want, then tab a bunch to 
> the open button and hit space.
> You can count on Jaws losing focus at least once in this process, at least my 
> system did.
> After you hit open, your file should appear in whatever folder you had open 
> on Voice Dream.
> 
> Why in hell they don't have hot keys to jump to these things is beyond me.
> I will stick with putting things on Dropbox or OneDrive and importing them 
> into Voice Dream that way.  This is stupid!
> I'm usually a very patient person, but this is a perfect example of how Apple 
> works on Windows.  I hope it is easier for those using Macs.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Then, shift tab to your drive list and plan to find your drive where it says 
> closed, arrow right to open.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
> 
> The reason I ask, I want to make sure I can still use itunes file sharing to 
> import content into voice dream reader before updating to itunes 12.7.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:34 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it 
> was before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? 
>> My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
>> touch using iTunes 12.7
>> 
>> Hi Russ,
>> 
>> Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list 
>> of content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file 
>>> sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I 
>>> stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
>>> touch using iTunes 12.7
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
>>> following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
>>> 
>>> The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
>>> manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes
>>> 
>>> You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS 
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
>>> manually syncing specific items to your device.
>>> 
>>> If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage 
>>> music,
>>> but you can still manage videos using the steps below.
>>> 
>>> Manually add items from iTunes
>>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>>> 3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
>>> library.
>>> 4.Look in 

Re: List Recorder App and IOS 11

[Richard Turner]

The originator is not developing it any longer and no one has picked it up, so 
no, it will not be updated for iOS 11.
Very sad news.
Richard


On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:49 AM, Richard Petty 
> wrote:

Has there been any word on an update to List Recorder? This is an extremely 
useful app. I have a lot of material recorded in the app.

Do we know if the developer is updating the app? How seriously should we take 
the iOS 10 messages that the app will no longer be compatible with the next 
version of IOS—meaning IOS 11?

If the app is not updated and if it truly will not be compatible with iOS 11, 
how can one best move many audio recordings into a more commonly-readable audio 
file format? I haven’t found the apps internal conversion process to be at all 
intuitive.

Thanks for any help.

Richard Petty

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Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

[Fanus]

Hello list
I installed itools 4 on windows 10 pc but when I open it I do not get any menus 
or info, just “blank, blank, blank” when I tab or downarrow. Can anyone give a 
correct link for an accessible version with jaws?
Regards
Fanus


From: MamaPeach 
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

I downloaded the version of iTools for the PC from the same page, if that is 
what you are referring to, since the original message is not showing..

-Original Message- 
From: kg7...@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Device to transfer stuff to the iPhone

Hi all, according to the page the link took me to, it only seems to be
available for the Mac.  Is there another page for the PC version, and
does it offer a trial?

Thanks in advance:
John


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Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

[Russ Kiehne]

   Thanks, That is like I did it before.  In this case, I bypass going 
through the apps option.


I would use dropbox but for the fact I transfer several files at once around 
3gb in size.  That would take a while to transfer them into dropbox and then 
import them into voice dream reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7


Russ,
Well, one could say it is accessible with Jaws if you are an extremely 
patient person.

With your device plugged in:
Get to the spot where it says "summary"
Arrow down until you get to file sharing.
Tab many, many times to the list of apps that can use file sharing.
Jaws on my system was extremely slow in reading app names, but once you get 
there arrow down, slowly, very slowly, until you get to Voice Dream.

Then, tab many more times to the add file button.
Arrow down and right until you get to the file you want, then tab a bunch to 
the open button and hit space.
You can count on Jaws losing focus at least once in this process, at least 
my system did.
After you hit open, your file should appear in whatever folder you had open 
on Voice Dream.


Why in hell they don't have hot keys to jump to these things is beyond me.
I will stick with putting things on Dropbox or OneDrive and importing them 
into Voice Dream that way.  This is stupid!
I'm usually a very patient person, but this is a perfect example of how 
Apple works on Windows.  I hope it is easier for those using Macs.


Richard

Then, shift tab to your drive list and plan to find your drive where it says 
closed, arrow right to open.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7


The reason I ask, I want to make sure I can still use itunes file sharing to
import content into voice dream reader before updating to itunes 12.7.

-Original Message- 
From: Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:34 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hi Russ,

On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it
was before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.

Best,
Anna




On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it?
My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?

-Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hi Russ,

Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list
of content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.

Best,
Anna




On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file
sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I
stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?

-Original Message- From: M. Taylor
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Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hello Everyone,

As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:

Mark

Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes

You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS
device.

With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
manually syncing specific items to your device.

If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage
music,
but you can still manage videos using the steps below.

Manually add items from iTunes
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
library.
4.Look in the left sidebar for your device, then drag the content to your
iPhone, iPad, or iPod.

If you're using an iPhone, you can add music or videos only from a single
iTunes Library.

If you're using an iPad or iPod, you can add music from multiple iTunes
Libraries, but videos from only one iTunes Library.

If you can't manually add or remove content from your device

Check to make sure that the "Manually manage music and videos" option is
turned on:
1.Connect 

Re: Seven Little Words

[Donna]

I feel dumb. I was getting 7 little words confused with Word Ladder. Word 
Ladder when a correct ancer is given the game automatically enters the answer 
as correct, no need to tap on guess or submit the answer. Unfortunately, the 
developers of Word Ladder has no intentions of updating the game so it can be 
played on IOS 11. 

Donna 
> 
> Thanks for your help folk!  after a little hunting about, and tapping that 
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> tomorrow evening!  HAA HAA!  now there's unwarranted conceit if you like!
>  
> Jewel
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Re: Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

good luck, you can pay and have all the daily puzzles back to 2012, that should 
keep you quiet for a while.  I still haven’t finished them as I try and do some 
of the other puzzles.  not very good on the hard ones though.

From: Jewel 
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Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

Thanks for your help folk!  after a little hunting about, and tapping that 
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tomorrow evening!  HAA HAA!  now there's unwarranted conceit if you like!

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List Recorder App and IOS 11

[Richard Petty]

Has there been any word on an update to List Recorder? This is an extremely 
useful app. I have a lot of material recorded in the app.

 

Do we know if the developer is updating the app? How seriously should we take 
the iOS 10 messages that the app will no longer be compatible with the next 
version of IOS—meaning IOS 11?

 

If the app is not updated and if it truly will not be compatible with iOS 11, 
how can one best move many audio recordings into a more commonly-readable audio 
file format? I haven’t found the apps internal conversion process to be at all 
intuitive.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Richard Petty

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

Thanks for your help folk!  after a little hunting about, and tapping that 
rather deflating "guess" button, I have everything sorted and have progressed 
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Re: Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

forgive a stupid question but can you play these word games on your pc or does 
it have to be a mac or an iPhone.  Janet

From: Donna 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

>From your description it sounds like you have the wrong app. Here is the link 
>to the correct game. 

7 Little Words by Blue Ox Family Games, Inc.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/7-little-words/id431434152?mt=8

Donna


  I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard 
people speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, 
but I would appreciate some advice about settings.
  I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, 
along with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not 
required for another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill 
in:  e.g:  "First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

Jewel

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

Hi Jewel I only asked because if it had been possible I would have tried to 
help you over the phone or something.  glad you have sorted it.  goodnight and 
don’t play seven words all night long.  Janet

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

Janet!  The solutions are filling in OK, and I have done all that you said 
except for tapping the "guess" button.  Knowing that my answer was correct I 
was too conceited to indicate that a guess it might be!
I don't live in Britain;  in fact, I am about as far away from it as it is 
possible to get, short of residing in Antarctica.  I am nearly there though as 
I live in New Zealand.

  Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

are you double tapping on each set of letters when you find them i.e. bag 
double tapp then find ges double tap then it should say guess so you double tap 
again.  If that is what you are doing then I don’t know what to suggest.  are 
you in the sunrise list? and finally are you in Britain?  hope that is of some 
use

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

I found that if I started at #7 in the list, used letters were being taken out 
but this did not appear to be happening if I began at #1, but completed words 
are still not being deleted, nor are the answers being put into a list;  they 
are still appearing as one humungous word which gets  humungouser, or should 
that be more humungous?  as the game proceeds.
I have completed game #1 of 50, but how do I now move on to #2?  I would have 
thought that the game would have done that without my help! , but it wants me 
to just keep on repeating #1, which, I confess,  gets a bit tiresome!

Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

Morning Jew

when you find the letters you want you double tap and then when you have 
completed the word you have to wait until the phone says guess and double tap 
on this and it will remove the letters from the list.  Hope that is of some 
help to you.

Janetel

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seven Little Words


I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.
I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

  Jewel

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

Donna!  The Blue Ox app is the one that I have, but thanks for the heads-up, 
whatever that means!

 Jewel


From: Donna 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words


>From your description it sounds like you have the wrong app. Here is the link 
>to the correct game. 


7 Little Words by Blue Ox Family Games, Inc.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/7-little-words/id431434152?mt=8


Donna



  I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard 
people speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, 
but I would appreciate some advice about settings.
  I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, 
along with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not 
required for another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill 
in:  e.g:  "First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

Jewel


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Re: Seven Little Words

[Donna]

>From your description it sounds like you have the wrong app. Here is the link 
>to the correct game. 

7 Little Words by Blue Ox Family Games, Inc.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/7-little-words/id431434152?mt=8

Donna
> 
>  
> I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard 
> people speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, 
> but I would appreciate some advice about settings.
> I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, 
> along with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not 
> required for another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill 
> in:  e.g:  "First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill 
> in arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
> mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word 
> instead of being in a list as I would have expected.
>  
>   Jewel
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Re: Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

Janet!  The solutions are filling in OK, and I have done all that you said 
except for tapping the "guess" button.  Knowing that my answer was correct I 
was too conceited to indicate that a guess it might be!
I don't live in Britain;  in fact, I am about as far away from it as it is 
possible to get, short of residing in Antarctica.  I am nearly there though as 
I live in New Zealand.

  Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words


are you double tapping on each set of letters when you find them i.e. bag 
double tapp then find ges double tap then it should say guess so you double tap 
again.  If that is what you are doing then I don’t know what to suggest.  are 
you in the sunrise list? and finally are you in Britain?  hope that is of some 
use

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

I found that if I started at #7 in the list, used letters were being taken out 
but this did not appear to be happening if I began at #1, but completed words 
are still not being deleted, nor are the answers being put into a list;  they 
are still appearing as one humungous word which gets  humungouser, or should 
that be more humungous?  as the game proceeds.
I have completed game #1 of 50, but how do I now move on to #2?  I would have 
thought that the game would have done that without my help! , but it wants me 
to just keep on repeating #1, which, I confess,  gets a bit tiresome!

Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

Morning Jew

when you find the letters you want you double tap and then when you have 
completed the word you have to wait until the phone says guess and double tap 
on this and it will remove the letters from the list.  Hope that is of some 
help to you.

Janetel

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seven Little Words


I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.
I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

  Jewel

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

are you double tapping on each set of letters when you find them i.e. bag 
double tapp then find ges double tap then it should say guess so you double tap 
again.  If that is what you are doing then I don’t know what to suggest.  are 
you in the sunrise list? and finally are you in Britain?  hope that is of some 
use

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

I found that if I started at #7 in the list, used letters were being taken out 
but this did not appear to be happening if I began at #1, but completed words 
are still not being deleted, nor are the answers being put into a list;  they 
are still appearing as one humungous word which gets  humungouser, or should 
that be more humungous?  as the game proceeds.
I have completed game #1 of 50, but how do I now move on to #2?  I would have 
thought that the game would have done that without my help! , but it wants me 
to just keep on repeating #1, which, I confess,  gets a bit tiresome!

Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words

Morning Jew

when you find the letters you want you double tap and then when you have 
completed the word you have to wait until the phone says guess and double tap 
on this and it will remove the letters from the list.  Hope that is of some 
help to you.

Janetel

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seven Little Words


I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.
I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

  Jewel

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

I found that if I started at #7 in the list, used letters were being taken out 
but this did not appear to be happening if I began at #1, but completed words 
are still not being deleted, nor are the answers being put into a list;  they 
are still appearing as one humungous word which gets  humungouser, or should 
that be more humungous?  as the game proceeds.
I have completed game #1 of 50, but how do I now move on to #2?  I would have 
thought that the game would have done that without my help! , but it wants me 
to just keep on repeating #1, which, I confess,  gets a bit tiresome!

Jewel


From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seven Little Words


Morning Jew

when you find the letters you want you double tap and then when you have 
completed the word you have to wait until the phone says guess and double tap 
on this and it will remove the letters from the list.  Hope that is of some 
help to you.

Janetel

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seven Little Words


I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.
I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

  Jewel

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Re: Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

Morning Jew

when you find the letters you want you double tap and then when you have 
completed the word you have to wait until the phone says guess and double tap 
on this and it will remove the letters from the list.  Hope that is of some 
help to you.

Janetel

From: Jewel 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seven Little Words


I have completed the last available game in iAssociate, so having heard people 
speak of Seven Little Words, I have downloaded it from the App Store, but I 
would appreciate some advice about settings.
I thought that, as I completed a word, it would be deleted from the list, along 
with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
mid-dle-ton, the 2 answers, Armstrong and Middleton, appear as one word instead 
of being in a list as I would have expected.

  Jewel

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