Re: Air Pods Pro Question

[Deb Cook Lewis]

All of tahe settings for them are under the bluetooth connection in Settings.

On 1/16/22, Carla  wrote:
> I just got my Air Pods Pro and they were working fine but this morning I
> hear nothing in the left pod.  Any suggestions on how to bring it back?
> Thanks.
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Re: iPad in portrait or landscape

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I'd agree with tom's comments. My low vision students have generally
liked the landscape mode. But as a VO user, i've never seen any
advantage for it. The one exception might be in any browser, I like
the way it lays things out in landscape mode for the browser. but
otherwise, I see no real advantage. And I'm also looking forward to
hearing a different opinion on this.

On 1/7/22, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> I Dean,
> The only observations I have are more with your students more than you. If
> your student is low vision, they may like the larger size of youtube videos
> when in landscape mode. Otherwise, the only difference I see is that the
> keyboard has larger keys in landscape mode, which some user like better.
>
> Looking forward to hearig other people’s opinions.
>
> Thom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 7, 2022, at 6:23 AM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I have acquired an iPad, mostly for learning it so as to be able to
>> instruct others. With the iPhone I've always preferred locking orientation
>> to portrait, and haven't found a reason to use landscape. I'm open to
>> other viewpoints on orientation preferences and advantages for the iPhone,
>> but I'm especially wondering if there are sound reasons to keep the iPad
>> in landscape orientation, or use it that way in some circumstances. So I
>> would appreciate any experienced views..
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Re: Questions about the echo earbuds

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Oh I totally agree. I only raised my point because this is your phone,
not your Amazon device. You can use your Amazon dvices without
allowing them to have access to yhour contacts if you so desire. But
you can't even install these buds if you don't allow access to your
contacts for example. i get why they're doing it, I might be willing,
but it's more invasive than other headphones, that's all. If you're
already using your Amazon device to make phone calls for example,
there'd be no difference and probably convenient to have the phone do
it.

On 12/29/21, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> I don’t want to stimulate a privacy rights debate. However, one could argue
> if one already has an Amazon device, your privacy has already been
> penetrated. It is possible to mute the microphone on the earbuds, but then
> you are sacrificing a basic function of the product. Ultimately, people
> should decide when and how to spend their money,  but as to the original
> question, they are a very competitive choice when pitted against other brand
> names, Especially given the current promotion. I don’t necessarily like the
> ear fit, but I was very pleasantly surprised at the sound quality and
> general integration with Alexa.—Joe
>
>
> Sent from Joe's iPhone
>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Deb Cook Lewis 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely don't think these are a good idea. Theyw ant way too much
>> permission just to be earbuds. They want access to everything you do
>> on your phone not just waht you do with the Alexa app. This is partly
>> how the iPhone is designed, when it gives permission it gives it
>> across the board. But I don't want it recording everything I do on my
>> phone, not that I do anything, but still. So I use my regular Airpods
>> to listen to audible books on my phone using the Audible app and that
>> works great.
>>
>>> On 12/29/21, colleyd1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Thank you for the info.
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joe
>>> Orozco
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 8:26 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Questions about the echo earbuds
>>>
>>> I have the Echo Buds and am using them with an iPhone SE 2020. They work
>>> well. I personally don’t like their bulbous form factor, but this is a
>>> highly personal preference thing. They work great with Audible and
>>> YouTube
>>> and general article reading. Setting them up was a breeze if you have
>>> the
>>> Amazon Alexa app installed. The whole process was accessible. I have not
>>> tried adjusting the EQ, but this is one neat little feature you can’t
>>> necessarily do with the AirPods.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/29/21, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> I should have gone to Amazon before sending my message. It says it
>>>> needs IOS
>>>> 12 or later to use them. So yes, they can be used with the S E 2.
>>>>
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If they say they only can be used with the iPhone 12 and later, then
>>>> no, they can not be used with the S E 2, which has the processor of an
>>>> iPhone 11. If I am incorrect, if somebody has used these with an
>>>> iPhone less than the model 12, please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 4:22 PM, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> What can anyone tell me about the echo earbuds? Amazon is having a
>>>> special on them right now. Can they be used to read or listen to music
>>>> with the iphone? It says you pair them using the echo ap and iphone
>>>> 12+. Would they work with the iphone SE20?
>>>>
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Re: Questions about the echo earbuds

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I absolutely don't think these are a good idea. Theyw ant way too much
permission just to be earbuds. They want access to everything you do
on your phone not just waht you do with the Alexa app. This is partly
how the iPhone is designed, when it gives permission it gives it
across the board. But I don't want it recording everything I do on my
phone, not that I do anything, but still. So I use my regular Airpods
to listen to audible books on my phone using the Audible app and that
works great.

On 12/29/21, colleyd1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Thank you for the info.
>
> Denise
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 8:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about the echo earbuds
>
> I have the Echo Buds and am using them with an iPhone SE 2020. They work
> well. I personally don’t like their bulbous form factor, but this is a
> highly personal preference thing. They work great with Audible and YouTube
> and general article reading. Setting them up was a breeze if you have the
> Amazon Alexa app installed. The whole process was accessible. I have not
> tried adjusting the EQ, but this is one neat little feature you can’t
> necessarily do with the AirPods.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 12/29/21, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> I should have gone to Amazon before sending my message. It says it
>> needs IOS
>> 12 or later to use them. So yes, they can be used with the S E 2.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> If they say they only can be used with the iPhone 12 and later, then
>> no, they can not be used with the S E 2, which has the processor of an
>> iPhone 11. If I am incorrect, if somebody has used these with an
>> iPhone less than the model 12, please let us know.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 4:22 PM, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What can anyone tell me about the echo earbuds? Amazon is having a
>> special on them right now. Can they be used to read or listen to music
>> with the iphone? It says you pair them using the echo ap and iphone
>> 12+. Would they work with the iphone SE20?
>>
>> Denise
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Re: Question about T-Mobile

[Deb Cook Lewis]

When I lived in a city, my T-Mobile experience was excellent. I now
live in a more rural area, and I experience lots of dropped calls,
some that just go to voicemail, and plenty of areas with no service.
This is not a place without good coverage, but for supposedly having
the largest network, I'd have to say not where I am. so check
carefully if you're not in an urban area. I would do much better with
any other carrier, but this is inexpensive and my husband doesn't want
us to switch.

On 12/3/21, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have been with t-mobile for several years and don’t have any problems.  I
> am qite happy with them.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about T-Mobile
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I use AT, but I’m planning to change to T-Mobile. I would like to know if
> anyone uses T-Mobile and if she or he is happy with this company. My main
> concerned is that I read that in periods of congestion I can experience
> some slow service. Please, I will appreciate your opinions.
>
> Thank you,
>
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>
> Rena
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
> Perhaps they could comment further.
>
> I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
> accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
> might fit the bill.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
>> scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
>> Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
>> update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
>>
>> The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
>>
>> So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
>> about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
>> and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
>> other options.
>>
>> I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
>> Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is
>> that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported
>> a while.
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Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

[Deb Cook Lewis]

It was farther down into my updates than i thought but I do see it now
and it's coming. I'll go ahead and update my phone then because I've
skipped out on the last couple of updates. Interesting that they could
provide it an update without it being in the app store. And it's a
good lesson to not remove something you wish was updated, I know I'd
have removed it had I updated. My scale has the same issues, no longer
made and when I get a new phone the app won't be available.

On 7/7/21, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> When i updated my phone, the app would not open, and the message said it was
> no longer available.i left the app on my home page even it no longer worked.
> Today, i tapped the app to open, and it opened right up!(Now, if only i
> hadn’t already given my InstantPot away to my daughter!) No worries though!
> I already called her, and she’s happy to give it back!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Julian  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You might need to refresh your App Store. Once you're on the updates page,
>> put focus anywhere in the middle of the screen then swipe down with three
>> fingers and that should refresh it and show you all of the latest updates
>> that you have available. Hope that helps.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>>
>>> I still have the old app but I don't see any update for it. I didn't
>>> update my phone though. I'm wondering if I have to update my phone for
>>> the update to appear or if my phone wasn't updated at some magic
>>> moment if I'll still not benefit. Sure would be ice if there was
>>> communication somewhere. I'm not sure if I should take the risk or
>>> not.
>>>
>>>>> On 7/7/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> If you got rid of the app from your phone like I did, you should be able
>>>> to
>>>> get it back as a previously purchased app. That’s what I did. I
>>>> couldn’t
>>>> find it with an App Store search. But I was able to re-download it
>>>> because I
>>>> had had it before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Deb Cook Lewis 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not seeing the update. Wonder if it's becuase I didn't let my
>>>>> phone update from when it stopped working for others? I do still have
>>>>> the app. I don't know how it can bet an update without being in the
>>>>> app store though. I guess I'll take a chance on updating the phone and
>>>>> see if I get the update to the app?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>>>> I saw the update to the app on my phone this morning.  Wonder why
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> changed their minds?  Just think of all the grumbles they got from
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that has the older pots.  It wouldn't have been just blind people
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a
>>>>>> habit.
>>>>>> -Aristotle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Penny Reeder" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:29 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is such good news! Thank you for sharing it.
>>>>>> Penny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>>>>> I think it is the second one from the bottom on the right hand
>>>>>>> column.
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> need to press and hold it for it to go in to pairing mode.  Hope
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a
>>>>>>> habit.
>>>>>>> -Aristotle.
>>>>>>

Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I still have the old app but I don't see any update for it. I didn't
update my phone though. I'm wondering if I have to update my phone for
the update to appear or if my phone wasn't updated at some magic
moment if I'll still not benefit. Sure would be ice if there was
communication somewhere. I'm not sure if I should take the risk or
not.

On 7/7/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> If you got rid of the app from your phone like I did, you should be able to
> get it back as a previously purchased app. That’s what I did. I couldn’t
> find it with an App Store search. But I was able to re-download it because I
> had had it before.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not seeing the update. Wonder if it's becuase I didn't let my
>> phone update from when it stopped working for others? I do still have
>> the app. I don't know how it can bet an update without being in the
>> app store though. I guess I'll take a chance on updating the phone and
>> see if I get the update to the app?
>>
>>> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> I saw the update to the app on my phone this morning.  Wonder why they
>>> changed their minds?  Just think of all the grumbles they got from
>>> everyone
>>>
>>> that has the older pots.  It wouldn't have been just blind people
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a
>>> habit.
>>> -Aristotle.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Penny Reeder" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is such good news! Thank you for sharing it.
>>> Penny
>>>
>>>> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>> I think it is the second one from the bottom on the right hand column.
>>>> You
>>>>
>>>> need to press and hold it for it to go in to pairing mode.  Hope this
>>>> helps.
>>>>
>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a
>>>> habit.
>>>> -Aristotle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  - Original Message -
>>>>  From: Mary Otten
>>>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 10:23 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Well I finally found my purchase history and I think I have download
>>>> the
>>>> correct app. Now of course, it's not connected. Can someone tell me
>>>> please
>>>> which button I have to press to make this happen? I don't recall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Cristobal Munoz
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>?
>>>>I still had it on my phone. Doing a quick search in the App Store,
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't seem to come up though. I don't know if it will come up in the
>>>> purchase history if you by any chance removed it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Kay Malmquist
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>  Wow!  that is way cool!  Did you have to download the new app or
>>>> did
>>>> you still have the old one?
>>>>
>>>>  Kay Malmquist
>>>>  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>  We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but
>>>> a
>>>> habit.
>>>>  -Aristotle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: Cristóbal Muñoz
>>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 9:11 PM
>>>>Subject: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, well. Maybe the folks at Instant Pot got tired of hearing
>>>> us
>>>> complain. Imagine my surprise when I checked for any app updates and
>>>> had
>>>> the
>>>&

Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I'm not seeing the update. Wonder if it's becuase I didn't let my
phone update from when it stopped working for others? I do still have
the app. I don't know how it can bet an update without being in the
app store though. I guess I'll take a chance on updating the phone and
see if I get the update to the app?

On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> I saw the update to the app on my phone this morning.  Wonder why they
> changed their minds?  Just think of all the grumbles they got from everyone
>
> that has the older pots.  It wouldn't have been just blind people either.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
> -Aristotle.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Penny Reeder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>
>
> This is such good news! Thank you for sharing it.
> Penny
>
> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> I think it is the second one from the bottom on the right hand column.
>> You
>>
>> need to press and hold it for it to go in to pairing mode.  Hope this
>> helps.
>>
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>
>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a
>> habit.
>> -Aristotle.
>>
>>
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Mary Otten
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 10:23 PM
>>   Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>
>>
>>   Well I finally found my purchase history and I think I have download
>> the
>> correct app. Now of course, it's not connected. Can someone tell me
>> please
>> which button I have to press to make this happen? I don't recall.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Cristobal Munoz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ?
>> I still had it on my phone. Doing a quick search in the App Store, it
>> doesn't seem to come up though. I don't know if it will come up in the
>> purchase history if you by any chance removed it.
>>
>>
>>   On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   ?
>>   Wow!  that is way cool!  Did you have to download the new app or
>> did
>> you still have the old one?
>>
>>   Kay Malmquist
>>   kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>
>>   We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but
>> a
>> habit.
>>   -Aristotle.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 9:11 PM
>> Subject: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>
>>
>> Well, well. Maybe the folks at Instant Pot got tired of hearing
>> us
>> complain. Imagine my surprise when I checked for any app updates and had
>> the
>>
>> smart cooker Instant Pot app show up. Low and behold, it downloaded and
>> the
>>
>> app works again. The only update mentioned had to do some with security
>> certificate for it to work with newer versions of iOS.
>>
>> Sure enough, the app opens like normal again.
>>
>> Cool beans.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cristóbal
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Question about Instant Pot and iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Not only is the app no longer supported, the newer pot and app are not
particularly accessible.

On 5/20/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> I found that when I upgraded to one of the iOS 14 versions, which I now
> don’t remember if it was four or five, my Bluetooth app quit working. It
> would not open. And that has not changed. The app is no longer in the App
> Store. If I try to open the app, I get a notice on my iPhone saying that the
> developer needs to update the app. But it’s no longer in the store and is
> not being supported. Therefore, you should not look forward to being able to
> use your Bluetooth app anymore at least in my experience. Somebody said
> there’s was still working, but I don’t remember if it was on this list or
> somewhere else, and I have to think it’s a fluke. But I can’t explain it.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 20, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I hope this is a good list to ask this question.
>> A few years ago, I got one of the first Smart Instant Pots that hooked up
>> to the iPhone via Bluetooth. It worked well, and while I could use it to
>> some extent with just the buttons, I found that being able to use it with
>> my phone really helped and made it easier to take advantage of its
>> capabilities.
>> Since I upgraded to my iPhone 12, I found that my Instant Pot doesn’t
>> connect to my phone. I thought I had to re-pair it via the app, and when I
>> tried going that direction, either my phone or the Instant Pot didn’t seem
>> to recognize one another. If there is some recognition, it is only for an
>> instant, and then it goes away and I can’t use the Instant Pot with the
>> phone.
>> I’m wondering what you think could be wrong, or if I should get one of the
>> newer ones.
>> I like being able to use it and set the temperatures with ease without
>> having to memorize and count and do all of those extra things.
>> This is still in good condition, except for the Bluetooth capabilities.
>> What are people using now? What do you guys think about the newer Smart
>> Instant Pots? How accessible are they? Are they worth it?
>> I’d like to read your thoughts before I make any decisions.
>> Jim
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RE: Arboleaf scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I wouldn't think you should have to enter your weight, won't it record that the 
first time you step on it? I really have to get a new scale because mine is no 
longer in the app store so I'm very interested in all this. But I'm puzzled 
that you'd have to enter your weight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Arboleaf scale

This is an oversight I made in talking about this model, I cheated setting up, 
using residual vision and Zoom to set up initially, I tried today to set up a 
guest user, and I did the height, using voiceover, to duplicate the scenario, 
and got through the height pickers, then weight disappeared completely. So I’m 
baffled by this as well. Was hoping to find a customer service number or email 
in the FAQ, but couldn’t find anything. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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Twitter: @lpnalda

> On May 7, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Kayla King  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all,
> I thought I would try this scale as an alternative to my Withings. However, 
> for some reason I can’t enter my weight or height when trying to set up my 
> account.
> Did anybody else struggle with this?
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12
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RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well the question was, could you use the newer app with the old model, I don't 
think so.
The newer app is still in the app store if it would work.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

No, you cannot use the older app with the new model. I have both models.
Thanks 

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No, you cannot use the newer app with the old pots in my experience.
If someone knows differently, I'm all ears please.
I will lose the Instant Pot and my weight scale when i get a new phone so my 
hope was to keep my 8+ around for just that purpose so I'd like to not lose the 
IP bluetooth model just yet. I know there's always a risk.

On 4/27/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It may help if you mentioned exactly which app you use, e.g. name and 
> version number which you can find either in the app store app or if 
> you open the app and find where in Settings or Help this information 
> appears, but most apps do show this information. I have never bought 
> an Instant Pot yet because I don't like their flaky approach to 
> accessibility, but I thought you can also use the newer app with the older 
> Bluetooth pots?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Danny Keys
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>
> OK,
> The Instant Pot and the Bluetooth app are working just fine.
> Note.
> This  the older Bluetooth model, not the Wi-Fi model.
> I’m running iOS 15 and on an iPhone SE second gen.
> So, I don’t know what’s going on. Of course, I cant say that you will 
> have the same success. But I hope you do.
> Again. This is the older Bluetooth app.
> I uninstalled it several months back. Then several weeks ago, I went 
> back through my purchase history and reinstalled the app while under iOS 14.
> At least here, it is working under iOS 15.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ok.
>> I’ll post in a short while in either case.
>> Just give me a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>> I hate to sound bossy, but could you do this asap?  Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to 
>>> tell anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call 
>>> attention to their shining - just shine.
>>> Dwight L. Moody - 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Danny Keys" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> This is the app I download it I think in 2016 or 17.
>>>
>>> I removed it from the phone several months ago.
>>>
>>> A month or so ago I reinstalled it on the phone just to see if it 
>>> would work whenever the new update came out.
>>>
>>> So far, at least the app is accessible.
>>>
>>> Sometime in the next few days I'll give it a try with the Insta pot 
>>> and see how it does.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Wow! That's interesting. I wonder why am I still not working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I haven't connected to the Insta pot today I did open the app 
>>>>> on iOS
>>>>> 14.5 it does open and it does go to all the menus.
>>>>>
>>>>> note I'm using an iPhone SE second generation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Deb Cook Lewis 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>&

Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

No, you cannot use the newer app with the old pots in my experience.
If someone knows differently, I'm all ears please.
I will lose the Instant Pot and my weight scale when i get a new phone
so my hope was to keep my 8+ around for just that purpose so I'd like
to not lose the IP bluetooth model just yet. I know there's always a
risk.

On 4/27/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It may help if you mentioned exactly which app you use, e.g. name and
> version number which you can find either in the app store app or if you open
> the app and find where in Settings or Help this information appears, but
> most apps do show this information. I have never bought an Instant Pot yet
> because I don't like their flaky approach to accessibility, but I thought
> you can also use the newer app with the older Bluetooth pots?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny
> Keys
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>
> OK,
> The Instant Pot and the Bluetooth app are working just fine.
> Note.
> This  the older Bluetooth model, not the Wi-Fi model.
> I’m running iOS 15 and on an iPhone SE second gen.
> So, I don’t know what’s going on. Of course, I cant say that you will have
> the same success. But I hope you do.
> Again. This is the older Bluetooth app.
> I uninstalled it several months back. Then several weeks ago, I went back
> through my purchase history and reinstalled the app while under iOS 14.
> At least here, it is working under iOS 15.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ok.
>> I’ll post in a short while in either case.
>> Just give me a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>> I hate to sound bossy, but could you do this asap?  Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to
>>> tell anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call
>>> attention to their shining - just shine.
>>> Dwight L. Moody - 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Danny Keys" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> This is the app I download it I think in 2016 or 17.
>>>
>>> I removed it from the phone several months ago.
>>>
>>> A month or so ago I reinstalled it on the phone just to see if it
>>> would work whenever the new update came out.
>>>
>>> So far, at least the app is accessible.
>>>
>>> Sometime in the next few days I'll give it a try with the Insta pot
>>> and see how it does.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Wow! That's interesting. I wonder why am I still not working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I haven't connected to the Insta pot today I did open the app
>>>>> on iOS
>>>>> 14.5 it does open and it does go to all the menus.
>>>>>
>>>>> note I'm using an iPhone SE second generation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Deb Cook Lewis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Is it still true that if we update to 14.5, the Bluetooth Instant
>>>>>> Pot will no longer work as previously reported by beta testers? My
>>>>>> phone is old and doesn't benefit much from updates except of
>>>>>> course for security, but I won't update it if I lose access to my
>>>>>> instant pot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Gordon
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:06 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
&

RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I don't think it's in the App store now though so removing it would be too 
risky now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5

hi,

This is the app I download it I think in 2016 or 17.

I removed it from the phone several months ago.

A month or so ago I reinstalled it on the phone just to see if it would work 
whenever the new update came out.

So far, at least the app is accessible.

Sometime in the next few days I’ll give it a try with the Insta pot and see how 
it does.




Dan


> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Wow! That’s interesting. I wonder why am I still not working.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> Well I haven’t connected to the Insta pot today I did open the app on iOS 
>> 14.5 it does open and it does go to all the menus.
>> 
>> note I’m using an iPhone SE second generation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it still true that if we update to 14.5, the Bluetooth Instant Pot will 
>>> no longer work as previously reported by beta testers? My phone is old and 
>>> doesn't benefit much from updates except of course for security, but I 
>>> won't update it if I lose access to my instant pot. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Gordon
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> The long wait is over, IOS 14.5 has just been released.
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RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Is it still true that if we update to 14.5, the Bluetooth Instant Pot will no 
longer work as previously reported by beta testers? My phone is old and doesn't 
benefit much from updates except of course for security, but I won't update it 
if I lose access to my instant pot. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Time to grab IOS 14.5

The long wait is over, IOS 14.5 has just been released.

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RE: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I'm going to be very interested because it talks about Android but no mention 
of syncing with Apple Health for example.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

Thanks that is exactly what I am looking for.  I just purchased it.

I will post a review once I get it.

On 4/4/21, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> This one has Wi-Fi. It’s about the fifth or sixth one down when I did 
> a search foraboleaf scale
>
> Arboleaf Smart Scale, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Weight Scale, 14 Body 
> Composition Monitor with iOS Android APP, Wireless Cloud-Storage for 
> Unlimited Data, 8 Users, BMR BMI Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat by 
> mozdius Learn more:
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>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>
>> I looked at the arboleaf scale on amazon and it is definitely in my 
>> price range right now.  Does it just use bluetooth or is it wifi 
>> connected as well.  The description was unclear about the 
>> connectivity.  I would prefer to have something wifi enabled so I 
>> don't have to have my phone with me when i get on the scale since I 
>> usually leave my iPhone in my office to charge at night and I would 
>> want to use the scale first thing in the morning.
>>
>>> On 3/29/21, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> A couple years ago, we bought the Arboleaf scale. The iPhone app 
>>> works well with Voiceover. This scale measures weight, body fat, 
>>> BMI, water, muscle mass, medibolic age, and BMR.
>>>
>>> Traci
>>>
>>>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Donald Raikes 
> wrote:

 Hi,

 I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that 
 are iOS/VoiceOver friendly.

 I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing 
 it on amazon.

 Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?

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RE: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah the blood pressure cuff is still there but the scale is absolutely not. 
Definitely spelling it correctly. I was planning to buy this too.
I'm totally surprised that it's not there. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:55 PM
To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

Did you spell it correctly?  It’s qardio with a q, not the usual way of 
spelling cardio..

I have the qardio base 2 and love it.  The app works well with vo.  It easures 
weight, body fat, bmi, and muscle and bone massl.  You can also set goals with 
it.

Caitlyn


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> Hi,
> 
> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are 
> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
> 
> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it 
> on amazon.
> 
> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
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RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I was successful in connecting them, but like most Bluetooth devices, they 
really don’t work well in windows at all. It’s windows. My experience was 
similar with other Bluetooth headphones.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

 

Hi All,

I received my AirPods last night. They are working fine with my iPhone. I am 
having problems connecting them to my PC. I powered off my iPhone to make 
certain there was not a conflict. I called Apple Accessibility and we 
eventually got them connected, but no sound comes from them when running Jaws 
on my Pc. I’m not certain they are really connected, as they seem to vacillate 
between connecting and connected. I looked in Sound Settings and do not see 
them listed there. Has anyone been successful in using these with a PC? I will 
also contact Microsoft Accessibility to see what they have to say. A little 
disappointed thus far with this issue, but I do expect it will be resolved. 
After all, they are Bluetooth headphones. I really want to use these with Zoom 
on my Surface Pro 5. Thanks for any assistance.

Best Regards,

 

Les

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Interval timer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have Intervals Pro but have had no success getting settings to save. Each
time, it has defaulted to zero although the event itself has saved.

So, is there a better intervals app? And if not, what might I be doing wrong
here? This really isn't intuitive at all. I set the active and passive
times, and the number of repeats. Each time I go to run the timers it has
set back to zero, in some settings there's a done button and sometimes not,
but I do the overall save when it looks right. 

All I want is the timers, my watch can track the activity.

 

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RE: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes it's on to backup to Icloud, and yes my Icloud has enough space.
I've hard reset the phone, updated the phone, done everything I can think of. 
Same problem on my husband's phone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BlindSquare Crashing?

My only other thought that hasn’t been mentioned- Are you signed into iCloud? 
How much free storage space is available in iCloud? Is Blind Square turned On 
to backup to iCloud? If you go to Settings, iCloud & swipe down to Blind Square 
you can check to confirm that Blind Square is on to backup to iCloud. Any of 
the saved places in the Blind Square app are saved to iCloud for each use of 
the app. I am not having any problems with the app. I have the latest update to 
the app, 5.1 that was released 3 months ago. My only other suggestion is to 
contact the app developer. It seems that you are the only person having the app 
crash immediately upon launching the app.

Donna 
> 
> Well it's no longer working on either my or my husband's phone, but it has 
> nothing to do with OS version because he and I aren't on the same one. So 
> I'll wait then to see if an update comes for this.
> I realize most people think Soundscape does all this and more, but it doesn't 
> interface as well with map programs, and most personally, it doesn't have all 
> my saved places in it. 
> So will wait and see.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BlindSquare Crashing?
> 
> Blind Square is still being updated. We have moved the list to a different 
> web service. If you would like to join the list, the subscription address is 
> below. And if you were a part of the beta program, that list is also moved as 
> well. But I would have to verify before I give you that information to 
> subscribe to that list it is it is not a public list.
> blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io
>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m 
>> not even sure it’s still under development.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb 
>> Cook Lewis
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?
>> 
>> I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
>> reading about this. 
>> I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
>> Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have 
>> the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for 
>> BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
>> crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> Deb
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RE: Bose connect app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I just used the bose connect app yesterday to update a supported device 
and I had no difficulty with any aspect of the app or the process.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose connect app

 

Make sure also you don't have image or screen recognition on or, if they are 
off, try screen recognition because in some cases this can relaly help just as 
in others (Facebook is a good example) it totally messes things up if it is on.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

The descriptions in the app store say which devices the app works with, so it 
should be relatively easy to figure out the app you need. 

 

Richard

 

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve got a few bose products and they don’t use the connect app,

 

They use the music app,

 

Have you tried the bose music app to see if that makes a difference?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

It was for sure.  The sound was coming out of it.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

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- Original Message - 

From: Brad Snyder   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Bose connect app

 

Make sure your Bose device is powered on, and connected to your iPhone or 
whatever device has the Bose connect app on it.

- Brad -


On Mar 15, 2021, at 14:46, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

I just tried getting in to my Bose Connect app to see if there is an update for 
my Bose Sound link mini and I could not get it to work.  What I mean is that I 
skipped the log in page and then a product carousel came up.  I could not read 
anything else on that page except the about link.  It used to be reasonably 
accessible.  Do I have to create an account now?  Any thoughts on this?  Thanks 
much.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

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RE: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I did all this. Even reinstalled it. Not working on two different phones. Just 
closes immediately.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:12 PM
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Blind square on my phone is working normally, with no issue.

You might try rebooting your phone, and checking your Wi-Fi/cellular signal 
strength.

- Brad -


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I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
reading about this. 

I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have the 
latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for BS. 
Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?

 

Thanks!!

Deb

 

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RE: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well it's no longer working on either my or my husband's phone, but it has 
nothing to do with OS version because he and I aren't on the same one. So I'll 
wait then to see if an update comes for this.
I realize most people think Soundscape does all this and more, but it doesn't 
interface as well with map programs, and most personally, it doesn't have all 
my saved places in it. 
So will wait and see.


-Original Message-
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Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BlindSquare Crashing?

Blind Square is still being updated. We have moved the list to a different web 
service. If you would like to join the list, the subscription address is below. 
And if you were a part of the beta program, that list is also moved as well. 
But I would have to verify before I give you that information to subscribe to 
that list it is it is not a public list.
blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io
> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m not 
> even sure it’s still under development.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb 
> Cook Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?
>  
> I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
> reading about this. 
> I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
> Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have 
> the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for 
> BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
> crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?
>  
> Thanks!!
> Deb
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RE: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The most recent update was two months ago according to the Appstore. So if not, 
this means it just stopped. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m not 
even sure it’s still under development.

 

 

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Cook Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?

 

I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
reading about this. 

I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have the 
latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for BS. 
Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?

 

Thanks!!

Deb

 

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BlindSquare Crashing?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I don't always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don't recall
reading about this. 

I haven't used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine.
Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have
the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for
BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it's still
crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?

 

Thanks!!

Deb

 

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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Based on the demo I saw on YouTube, there are not default times and temps. Each 
menu has its own defaults. I think the easiest way to go about this would be 
with Aira or beMyEyes to just get the ones for what you actually make. I know 
she said the defaults were fine for rice, but from her description, vegetables 
needed to be less than the default. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi Dan,
I can't seem to find a user manual online.  Is it possible you could send me a 
cheat sheet of what the default times and temps are for the functions or a link 
to a user manual so I'd know what my starting point is?
Thanks,
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi,
We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
However, both time and temperature do not talk.
Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
so.



Dan


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
> should they fix the issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>> recipes.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. 
>>> That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the 
>>> total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. 
>>> So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
 
 I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
 had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
 function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
 updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
 Johna
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
 
 Johna, 
 I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
 device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
 we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
 was that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the 
 default. I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, 
 the one you got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still 
 have to do a cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
> 
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
> 
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

There is a really great and largely accessible video demo of the coocoo cooker 
on Yourtube if you search for demo cooker multicooker. Gosh, she could have 
done just a little more and it would be totally accessible. She demos the 
talking menus, and you can observe that the time and temp do not talk although 
she doesn't comment on that. At first she doesn't wait long enough for any 
menus to talk,but then she does and it's quite cool. Most of the things she 
made could be at the default time, she thought that the vegetables were a 
little done to her liking and from her description, I agree. But it sounds 
pretty useable.
Apple is having trouble with Bluetooth and some braille products too so you're 
darned if you do and darned if you don't on these upgrades. 
But I think that all in all if my Instant Pot doesn't work after the next 
upgrade, I'm likely to buy this coocoo thing instead rather than give these 
people any more of my money. 
Although you can press buttons and set the instant pot by hand if you know what 
you're doing, it won't tell you when you've come to full pressure etc. I don't 
like not having any info about what it's doing. 
My sister says she doesn't know about accessibility, but the wIfI instant pot 
is wonky in her view. 
So just some observations. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I asked about the app that controls the BlueTooth IP in a Facebook group for 
blind people who discuss cooking with small electric kitchen appliances. Two 
people have responded that the WiFi app is “mostly accessible.” One can 
apparently also set pressure level and time with Alexa. I don’t know how 
closely one can monitor cooking while using the app with VoiceOver. I am not 
eager to buy a new Instant Pot, but i don’t want to forego updating my Iphone 
either. Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> The Bluetooth Instant pot app was perfectly accessible. The problem is that 
> it no longer will open. As for the other one, the one with Wi-Fi, I don’t own 
> that, so I have no way of testing it out. But the Bluetooth app is simply 
> gone. It will not open and it is no longer in the App Store not being 
> supported.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
>> possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
>> screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
>> apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both 
>> apps are no longer updated. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
>>> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 Thank you Mary,
 I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
 update if it breaks accessibility.
 And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, 
 then they are monumentally stupid.
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
 realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
 My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
 
 Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
 blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank 
 you.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
> beta tester but read my license agreement(s). 
> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes 
>>> that Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update 
>>> it. Since they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update 
>>> won’t be happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now 
>>> a 

Question about Airpod Max accessories?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I see the audio cable and the power adaptor. And I see cushions, but are
those extra or you get them without the cushions? Just didn't want to buy
what I do not need?

 

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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Deb Cook Lewis]

No, it doesn't work. Once it's gone from the App store it's not available to 
download at all.
Family Sharing just shows apple that you're entitled, it doesn't actually make 
anything available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and put 
the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope this 
makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out 
I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with 
my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for 
now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future 
since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm 
the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov



Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve 

RE: my name in Zoom meetings

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes, if you do not have a name, Zoom will ask you to enter your name and email 
to authenticate that you’re not a robot. 

You do not actually have to enter your email, just something that looks like 
one. So it must contain an at sign and a period. I have often used d...@d.com 
  which is definitely not an email address, let alone mine. 
I do take the trouble to write at least my first name so I won’t be iPhone.

If you do this in the Zoom app, it can actually remember you if you check a box 
foer that. You can do this without an account.

The supreme advantage to creating a free account is that you can actually save 
lots of useful settings including ones for how much zoom chatters. And your 
name will be there once for all. But even without it, you can make the signing 
in process a little easier than it offers to be.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

 

Robin,

 

I think creating a Zoom account and signing into it on the Zoom app will 
address the issue you posted about.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

 

Alan,

I had not created an account, since I was not hosting meetings and was able to 
log in without it. Maybe I need to do this.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: my name in Zoom meetings

 

Robin,

 

Have you ever created a Zoom account which included your name and logged into 
it with the Zoom app on your iPhone? I did this when I first started using Zoom 
in late 2018 and I'm always identified by my name when I attend Zoom meetings 
using the Zoom Cloud Meetings app on my iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]   
On Behalf Of R Van Lant
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: my name in Zoom meetings

 

Hi,

As it true for most of us, I’m doing a lot more meeting by Zoom and I often 
attend via  the app on my phone.  If it’s a large group meeting where the 
attendees do not get to unmute, it seems that I’ll get prompted to register and 
enter my display name and email.  My annoyance is for those meetings that are 
more casual where I’m just directly connected to the meeting. In these, my 
display name always comes up as just “iPhone”.  I changed the name of my iPhone 
in IOS Settings to include my name, but this doesn’t carry over to the Zoom.  
Does anyone know how I can change this?  While in a meeting, I cannot find 
anything in settings that ill allow me to change my display name.  If I click 
on the link in an email, the Zoom app loads and I’m not prompted to enter a 
name.  for others who attend via the Zoom app on the phone, have you found a 
way to change this or is this just the default for all iPhone app users?  

 

Robin – iPhone SE2020 

 

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RE: Beets Blu bathroom scale app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I unfortunately don't think you'll hear from them but will be very interested 
if you do. They haven't updated that site in years, the highest iPhone model it 
lists is the 6+. Their Amazon link goes to an out of stock item. So I truly 
think they're no longer supporting the scale. When I replace my phone, I assume 
I will no longer have it. So definitely let us know if you hear something from 
them.


-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app

I found the Beets Blu site.  It’s www.beetsblu.com.  Duh.  I wrote to customer 
support and Now I’ll wait.  That would so suck if I needed to replace it 
because of an obsolete app.  Supposedly it’s possible to pair it with the IOS 
health app but I don’t find how.

Thanks for your responses.

Kim

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have the scale and I had it paired with my phone at one time and now it 
> doesn’t seem to pair. I’m thinking it might be the iOS because it was paired 
> with iOS 12 and now it won’t pair with iOS 14 sell something to do with the 
> scale I think.
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando 
> Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:50 AM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
>> 
>> I am having trouble with the Renpho Bluetooth scale hpairing with the app 
>> on my iPhone. Has anyone successfully paired this phone? Any tips would be 
>> appreciated. Also I would appreciate knowing what accessible scale you 
>> bought.
>> Thanks very much.
>> Terrie Terlau
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Peter Logan
>> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app
>> 
>> Ran into the same thing about three months ago… Ended up buying a new 
>> scale…
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhome.
>> 
 On Feb 7, 2021, at 12:29 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I’ve had this scale for several years but have not used it for about a 
>>> year.  This morning I discovered that my app is out dated and no longer in 
>>> the app store.  I’ve been looking for the Beets Blu  site on Google with no 
>>> luck and then I discovered an app with the same name (samrt scale) in the 
>>> app store but it is not accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, after all of this I’m wondering if anyone else is using this scale and 
>>> if so what have you done about the app issue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kim
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RE: A Bluetooth Question

[Deb Cook Lewis]

On mine, there's a button that performs various functions and one is to switch 
between the phone and the speaker if it is pressed and held when you want it to 
change. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Question

In answer to your question, I can initiate a call with the speaker. But it 
still comes through the phone when the other party answers.

 

> 
> On Jan 29, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Can you initiate the call from the Bose?
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 5:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Bluetooth Question
> 
> I suspected that might be the issue. It's probably a Bose issue.
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on the speaker. On my Amazon speakers phone calls don't¢don't 
>> come in, but on my Hangaround one, they do.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 29 ene 2021, a la(s) 7:21 a.m., Duane Steele  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> Sometimes when I make a call, I want it to come through my Bose bluetooth 
>>> speaker so I can hear it better. But I can't seem to make that happen. If 
>>> I'm listening to music and the phone rings, it comes through the speaker 
>>> loud and clear as expected. How can I make this happen when making a call. 
>>> Or, is this not possible. It's not a big deal. But it surely would be 
>>> convenient sometimes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
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RE: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I can confirm that it is true for the APH products and that for several others 
it is not true. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

 

I’ve had no issues at all with my Orbit Reader 20 plus.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

 

Not sure if anyone has seen or verified thinformation. I got it from a 
different list. If it isn’t correct then I send my apologies in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

Here is some extremely important information for anyone who uses any Braille 
display with their iDevice running IOS 14.4. I know this only talks about the 
APH products but it is true for all Braille displays.

 

 

 

From: The AT Center mailto:ataem_i...@ocali.org> > 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:59 AM

To: =?utf-8?Q??= mailto:maria...@denningweb.com> >

Subject: Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 Update from APH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 > View this email in your browser 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 > 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

Dear Requestors,

 

The AT Center would like to share with you this update from APH regarding 
the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have identified connection issues for the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 after 
upgrading to iOS 14.4. We recommend that you turn off automatic updates, and do 
not upgrade to 14.4. This is a regression introduced by Apple in this release. 
We alerted them to this issue during 14.4 beta testing, and we hope they will 
correct it in a possible 14.4.1 release. Stay tuned to your inbox for further 
updates.

 

Once upgraded to iOS 14.4, and as soon as users lock their iPad or iPhone with 
the Mantis or Chameleon connected, the braille display will not automatically 
reconnect once the device wakes back up. You can force it to reconnect by 
leaving the terminal and reconnecting from there, but then you won’t get 
braille. The only way to get braille back is to toggle Bluetooth on the iOS 
device, but the issue will happen again as soon as you lock your device or it 
goes to sleep.

 

To stop an iOS device from auto updating, do the following:

 

* Open the Settings app

* Activate the General option

* Activate the Software Update option

* Activate the Automatic Updates option

* Turn off both, “download iOS updates,” and “Install iOS updates.”

 

If you’ve already updated to iOS 14.4, please refer to this link for 
instructions on how to downgrade your iOS device:  

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RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Oh gosh, I did everything in the world except that I guess. I did try to get to 
the notification center etc. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim 
Appleby
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

 

Hi there. If you want to completely rid yourself of that update complete dialog 
on the watch, you do a 2 finger swipe up until you get to the end of that 
dialog, you will then find that “OK” button.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Tim Appleby

 

Sent from GMmail for iOS

 

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:02 PM Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I’ve apparently deleted it 
think it didn’t apply to me. So my watch updated last night and I cannot get 
rid of the update complete screen. I even did a hard reset which I thought did 
it, but no luck. I can turn vO on and off with the crown but otherwise the 
crown and power button seem to perform no functions and the update won’t 
dismiss. The watch appears to be functioning normally otherwise. There’s just 
no dismiss button. 

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Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently deleted
it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last night and I cannot
get rid of the update complete screen. I even did a hard reset which I
thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on and off with the crown but
otherwise the crown and power button seem to perform no functions and the
update won't dismiss. The watch appears to be functioning normally
otherwise. There's just no dismiss button. 

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RE: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I’ve seen this too, and forgot to mention it. Maybe it’s contemplating charging 
for the scan? LOL. In my case it seems to happen when the light is not direct 
so that might be a clue.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

 

Hi Shane and all,

I was experimenting with the Smart scan mode on some items in the kitchen.  I 
was trying to figure out if there was any way to get expiration dates reliably.

 

I had a half gallon jug of milk on the counter and as I was moving the camera 
around, a couple of times it said Ten dollars… there is nothing around there 
that says ten dollars or looks like a ten dollar bill.

 

I was then on the other side of the kitchen testing it on can labels and 
comparing to Seeing AI, when it again said ten dollars, a couple of times.

 

I double checked with my wife and we do not have any ten dollar bills lying 
around or anything with those words on it.

 

Just thought you might like to know.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

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RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Braille does not keep up with speech but it remains available so after it has 
found text, you can move the phone away and still read the Braille. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Hi Scott,
I just did.
There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with braille 
is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying since there are 
other document scanning apps that work fine with braille displays.

The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep 
the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with what 
is being spoken.
You may want to give the free trial a try.
But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.



Richard, in the U.S.

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a 
trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this 
with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
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>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, 
>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it 
>> would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would 
>> be really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I 
>> thought I got it for a good price. That app did not pan out very 
>> well. I am like you Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various 
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with 
>> specific messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch 
>> to the left, etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I 
>> would possibly buy it.
>>
>> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
>> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s 
>> product channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>>
>> Currency, Pros: very fast.
>> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, 
>> a 

RE: Anker Soundcore Q10

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The Bluetooth on those headphones doesn’t work at all well in windows from my 
experience. And when you plug it in via the cable, you’ll only have headphones, 
not the mike.

I’ve not seen any Bluetooth headphones that works well in windows unless you 
have one of the dongles.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jasmine 
Kotsay
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anker Soundcore Q10

 

Hi,

I haven’t worked with those headphones with the PC other than to plug in the 
wire that goes from the headphones to the PC. No wireless dongle necessary.





On Dec 3, 2020, at 2:47 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have it bluetoothed to my PC. so far only the mic works in Team Talk and the 
speakers  only work in Zoom.

Was there suppose to be a wireless dongle?

*
family Times weekly Movie times

 


go to Doc's Stream
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Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

 

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RE: headset retraction

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Oh, I too love this headset and appreciate that someone found it on Amazon. 
I've searched routinely and won't pay 4120 for it. Best Buy also has them. My 
first one died after 5 years, the dongle broke actually. So I bought one on 
Best buy a couple months ago and just ordered a spare on Amazon. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: headset retractionI find the battery to be long enough and the 
replacements do not fare well in the ratings, so I'll continue with what is 
provided. 

I'm surprised you like this headset.  I saw one on amazon for $69 and another 
for $119.  It got very bad reviews on amazon.  I personally wouldn't purchase 
it.  Hope you enjoy it though.

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older 
phones.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you 
haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an 
older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced 
these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have the image description 
stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is 
not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I hear it without doing anything. When I use my scale app, it reads the weight 
and then starts talking about the sky unsolicited. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> 

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Not on my phone, It’s too old for that. Mine is an 8+ and I believe you have to 
have the 10 for this, but in any case, I don’t have the option.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well I am getting it in my weight scale app. I’m not seeing it in any other 
app. Maybe it thinks my weight has gone sky high? It’s the only app I’m seeing 
it in.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

i wonder if it has to do with detection of ambient light.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Arnold Schmidt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM

Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hello Listers,

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

Noe

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[Deb Cook Lewis]

It has only happened one time so far on my phone. I suspect it has something to 
do with the weather wigit or with the wallpaper. In my case it was actually 
showing itself irrelevantly in an app that has no context of sky. So I’m 
thinking there’s a setting involved here since I’d have no clue what you’re 
talking about except that it happened to me today for the first time, and only 
once.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah LOL.

So now they’re not asking me to push the button, I must have finally held it 
long enough. But connection still fails.

But I’ll try anything so perhaps I can purchase a cat? Our dog would enjoy that 
a lot. 

Maybe I should buy a new phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Ok, try something different,

 

Put them down,

Put your phone down,

 

And go get a big glass of wine and relax for a while watching the sun rise or 
fall depending on where in the world you are.

 

Then in an hour try pairing them with your ipad in stead of your phone.

 

If that doesn’t work,

Kick the cat!

Lol.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:22 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yes, I totally know this. 

It sees them, I press connect, it then tells me to press that button. It 
eventually tells me connection failed. They’ve been connected for a long time, 
both of them. I had no trouble connecting them when I got them. So something is 
wrong somewhere but I don’t’ know how to tr4oubleshoot that.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

I would be surprised if your pods are still connected with your iPad

 

You need to take note of the prompts on the screen when trying to pair the pods 
and things will work.

 

Remember that when you try to pair you need to have the pods in the case and 
the case lid open I hold the case over my phone and press the little button on 
the back until the phone prompts you that the pods are paired / connected,

 

If you don’t hold the button down the pairing wont work.

 

And with the pods,

If your iPad and iPhone are using the same apple id,

The pods can be paired on one device and therefore pair with all devices that 
use that apple id,

 

So if you have removed the pods from one device it will be gone from all your 
devices.

 

So get rid of the didn’t work message and try it again.

 

Sf

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I did find it, finally. And I got rid of the thing about not being my airpods. 

But it says connection failed. So it’s definitely about the phone since they 
connected to my iPad.

I don’t know what’s going with apple have tried to call twice and on hold two 
hours each time.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

It’s in the middle of the back of the case and if you press you will feel it go 
in or move,

 

Press it as it wont hert the pods or the case.

 

  But when you go to pair them you have to have the lid of the case open with 
the pods in the charging ports,

 

So make sure the pods are removed from the Bluetooth connection of your phone,

 

Then open the case lid and a message should pop up saying to pair the pods,

If you have unpaired them then yeah it will say they aren’t yours.

 

But press the button on the back of the case and hold it while the pods 
charging case lid is kept open.

 

And follow the prompts on the phones screen.

 

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yeah I’m looking on the case. There’s a little strip so close to the lid it’s 
hard to find it, but I think that must be what you press. Nothing happens. 

But part of the problem is that it says “not your airpods pro” even though I 
forgot the device in settings and reset them with the lid closed. Online 
support says they’re not forgotten if you see this message, but if they’re not 
present I can’t forget them again. They don’t show up in the Bluetooth list at 
all.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@google

RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes, I totally know this. 

It sees them, I press connect, it then tells me to press that button. It 
eventually tells me connection failed. They’ve been connected for a long time, 
both of them. I had no trouble connecting them when I got them. So something is 
wrong somewhere but I don’t’ know how to tr4oubleshoot that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

I would be surprised if your pods are still connected with your iPad

 

You need to take note of the prompts on the screen when trying to pair the pods 
and things will work.

 

Remember that when you try to pair you need to have the pods in the case and 
the case lid open I hold the case over my phone and press the little button on 
the back until the phone prompts you that the pods are paired / connected,

 

If you don’t hold the button down the pairing wont work.

 

And with the pods,

If your iPad and iPhone are using the same apple id,

The pods can be paired on one device and therefore pair with all devices that 
use that apple id,

 

So if you have removed the pods from one device it will be gone from all your 
devices.

 

So get rid of the didn’t work message and try it again.

 

Sf

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I did find it, finally. And I got rid of the thing about not being my airpods. 

But it says connection failed. So it’s definitely about the phone since they 
connected to my iPad.

I don’t know what’s going with apple have tried to call twice and on hold two 
hours each time.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

It’s in the middle of the back of the case and if you press you will feel it go 
in or move,

 

Press it as it wont hert the pods or the case.

 

  But when you go to pair them you have to have the lid of the case open with 
the pods in the charging ports,

 

So make sure the pods are removed from the Bluetooth connection of your phone,

 

Then open the case lid and a message should pop up saying to pair the pods,

If you have unpaired them then yeah it will say they aren’t yours.

 

But press the button on the back of the case and hold it while the pods 
charging case lid is kept open.

 

And follow the prompts on the phones screen.

 

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yeah I’m looking on the case. There’s a little strip so close to the lid it’s 
hard to find it, but I think that must be what you press. Nothing happens. 

But part of the problem is that it says “not your airpods pro” even though I 
forgot the device in settings and reset them with the lid closed. Online 
support says they’re not forgotten if you see this message, but if they’re not 
present I can’t forget them again. They don’t show up in the Bluetooth list at 
all.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

No on the back of the case that the pods pro come in,

that’s the wireless charging case,

 

if you flick the lid of the case open,

approx. half a centimeter  below the lid on the back panel,you should be able 
to feel a button that is very slight but if you pres you will feel it.

 

The little things on the pods are not what you are looking for.

 

And no you shouldn’t have to reset your network settings,

Just forget the pods and then start again to pair them.

 

Good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that.

RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes I never have found that before so really appreciate this. 

So the junk is cleared out but they still won’t connect. Making progress though.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Interesting,

 

I think you have found the hinge of the case lid,

 

There should be a small round button quarter of an inch down from that and in 
the very middle of the cases back panel.

 

 

Try pressing down on different areas of the back panel and see what you find or 
feel.

Try using your fingers and feeling rather than trying to see it,

Your fingers can be more sensitive than eyes.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I know there’s a button like that on the standard airpods but I don’t see one 
on the case for the pros.

Just a long strip.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Viola Bentson
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yes Deb it’s a little round button about the size of the tip of your finger.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

No on the back of the case that the pods pro come in,

that’s the wireless charging case,

 

if you flick the lid of the case open,

approx. half a centimeter  below the lid on the back panel,you should be able 
to feel a button that is very slight but if you pres you will feel it.

 

The little things on the pods are not what you are looking for.

 

And no you shouldn’t have to reset your network settings,

Just forget the pods and then start again to pair them.

 

Good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
 On Behalf Of Deb Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that. It said to press volume up, down and then hold power until 
it reboots, but it never came back. So I was able to just reboot it and I have 
no idea if it reset. But I’ve recycled power and Bluetooth for sure.

I don’t want to reset all network settings if I can hep it because I’d have to 
repair my watch and all I assume.

Ugh.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi,

 

Same thing,

 

On the back of the pro case is a button you can press to reconnect your airpods 
pro.

 

Also have you rebooted your phone since having this issue occur?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I 
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device, and 
I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don’t connect. I can connect 
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it’s probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they’re not my airpods. Things 
I read online says this is because they haven’t been forgotten. But they don’t 
appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on the back of the Airpods to no avail. I can’t 
figure out what to press on the Pros because I never had to do that in the 
first place.

My phone is an 8+ so I know it’s older, but things were all fine.

All of my other Bluetooth devices that are not the airpods of either kind are 
connected and working fine.

Why not the airpods?

I tried to call Apple aCcessiblity and waited

RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I did find it, finally. And I got rid of the thing about not being my airpods. 

But it says connection failed. So it’s definitely about the phone since they 
connected to my iPad.

I don’t know what’s going with apple have tried to call twice and on hold two 
hours each time.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

It’s in the middle of the back of the case and if you press you will feel it go 
in or move,

 

Press it as it wont hert the pods or the case.

 

  But when you go to pair them you have to have the lid of the case open with 
the pods in the charging ports,

 

So make sure the pods are removed from the Bluetooth connection of your phone,

 

Then open the case lid and a message should pop up saying to pair the pods,

If you have unpaired them then yeah it will say they aren’t yours.

 

But press the button on the back of the case and hold it while the pods 
charging case lid is kept open.

 

And follow the prompts on the phones screen.

 

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 6:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yeah I’m looking on the case. There’s a little strip so close to the lid it’s 
hard to find it, but I think that must be what you press. Nothing happens. 

But part of the problem is that it says “not your airpods pro” even though I 
forgot the device in settings and reset them with the lid closed. Online 
support says they’re not forgotten if you see this message, but if they’re not 
present I can’t forget them again. They don’t show up in the Bluetooth list at 
all.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

No on the back of the case that the pods pro come in,

that’s the wireless charging case,

 

if you flick the lid of the case open,

approx. half a centimeter  below the lid on the back panel,you should be able 
to feel a button that is very slight but if you pres you will feel it.

 

The little things on the pods are not what you are looking for.

 

And no you shouldn’t have to reset your network settings,

Just forget the pods and then start again to pair them.

 

Good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that. It said to press volume up, down and then hold power until 
it reboots, but it never came back. So I was able to just reboot it and I have 
no idea if it reset. But I’ve recycled power and Bluetooth for sure.

I don’t want to reset all network settings if I can hep it because I’d have to 
repair my watch and all I assume.

Ugh.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi,

 

Same thing,

 

On the back of the pro case is a button you can press to reconnect your airpods 
pro.

 

Also have you rebooted your phone since having this issue occur?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I 
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device, and 
I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don’t connect. I can connect 
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it’s probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they’re not my airpods. Things 
I read online says this is because they haven’t been forgotten. But they don’t 
appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on th

RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I know there’s a button like that on the standard airpods but I don’t see one 
on the case for the pros.

Just a long strip.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Viola 
Bentson
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Yes Deb it’s a little round button about the size of the tip of your finger.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

No on the back of the case that the pods pro come in,

that’s the wireless charging case,

 

if you flick the lid of the case open,

approx. half a centimeter  below the lid on the back panel,you should be able 
to feel a button that is very slight but if you pres you will feel it.

 

The little things on the pods are not what you are looking for.

 

And no you shouldn’t have to reset your network settings,

Just forget the pods and then start again to pair them.

 

Good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that. It said to press volume up, down and then hold power until 
it reboots, but it never came back. So I was able to just reboot it and I have 
no idea if it reset. But I’ve recycled power and Bluetooth for sure.

I don’t want to reset all network settings if I can hep it because I’d have to 
repair my watch and all I assume.

Ugh.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi,

 

Same thing,

 

On the back of the pro case is a button you can press to reconnect your airpods 
pro.

 

Also have you rebooted your phone since having this issue occur?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I 
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device, and 
I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don’t connect. I can connect 
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it’s probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they’re not my airpods. Things 
I read online says this is because they haven’t been forgotten. But they don’t 
appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on the back of the Airpods to no avail. I can’t 
figure out what to press on the Pros because I never had to do that in the 
first place.

My phone is an 8+ so I know it’s older, but things were all fine.

All of my other Bluetooth devices that are not the airpods of either kind are 
connected and working fine.

Why not the airpods?

I tried to call Apple aCcessiblity and waited on the phone more than two hours 
before giving up. 

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

 

Deb

 

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RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I’m looking on the case. There’s a little strip so close to the lid it’s 
hard to find it, but I think that must be what you press. Nothing happens. 

But part of the problem is that it says “not your airpods pro” even though I 
forgot the device in settings and reset them with the lid closed. Online 
support says they’re not forgotten if you see this message, but if they’re not 
present I can’t forget them again. They don’t show up in the Bluetooth list at 
all.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi Deb,

 

No on the back of the case that the pods pro come in,

that’s the wireless charging case,

 

if you flick the lid of the case open,

approx. half a centimeter  below the lid on the back panel,you should be able 
to feel a button that is very slight but if you pres you will feel it.

 

The little things on the pods are not what you are looking for.

 

And no you shouldn’t have to reset your network settings,

Just forget the pods and then start again to pair them.

 

Good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that. It said to press volume up, down and then hold power until 
it reboots, but it never came back. So I was able to just reboot it and I have 
no idea if it reset. But I’ve recycled power and Bluetooth for sure.

I don’t want to reset all network settings if I can hep it because I’d have to 
repair my watch and all I assume.

Ugh.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi,

 

Same thing,

 

On the back of the pro case is a button you can press to reconnect your airpods 
pro.

 

Also have you rebooted your phone since having this issue occur?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I 
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device, and 
I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don’t connect. I can connect 
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it’s probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they’re not my airpods. Things 
I read online says this is because they haven’t been forgotten. But they don’t 
appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on the back of the Airpods to no avail. I can’t 
figure out what to press on the Pros because I never had to do that in the 
first place.

My phone is an 8+ so I know it’s older, but things were all fine.

All of my other Bluetooth devices that are not the airpods of either kind are 
connected and working fine.

Why not the airpods?

I tried to call Apple aCcessiblity and waited on the phone more than two hours 
before giving up. 

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

 

Deb

 

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RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

There’s a long thing on the back of the airpods pro,is that the button? And yes 
I’ve rebooted my phone. I actually tried to do a hard reset, but I’m not sure I 
succeeded with that. It said to press volume up, down and then hold power until 
it reboots, but it never came back. So I was able to just reboot it and I have 
no idea if it reset. But I’ve recycled power and Bluetooth for sure.

I don’t want to reset all network settings if I can hep it because I’d have to 
repair my watch and all I assume.

Ugh.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

Hi,

 

Same thing,

 

On the back of the pro case is a button you can press to reconnect your airpods 
pro.

 

Also have you rebooted your phone since having this issue occur?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, 6 November 2020 5:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

 

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I 
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device, and 
I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don’t connect. I can connect 
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it’s probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they’re not my airpods. Things 
I read online says this is because they haven’t been forgotten. But they don’t 
appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on the back of the Airpods to no avail. I can’t 
figure out what to press on the Pros because I never had to do that in the 
first place.

My phone is an 8+ so I know it’s older, but things were all fine.

All of my other Bluetooth devices that are not the airpods of either kind are 
connected and working fine.

Why not the airpods?

I tried to call Apple aCcessiblity and waited on the phone more than two hours 
before giving up. 

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

 

Deb

 

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Cannot connect Airpods or Airpods Pro

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have both Airpods and Airpods Pro.

The other day I was using my Airpods Pro and they suddenly disconnected. I
could not get them to reconnect. 

So following various online advice, I told the phone to forget this device,
and I restarted the phone.

I then discovered that my original Airpods also don't connect. I can connect
them both to my old Ipad running iOS 12 so it's probably not the pods.

But when I try to reconnect them the phone says they're not my airpods.
Things I read online says this is because they haven't been forgotten. But
they don't appear so no way to forget them again.

I try pressing the button on the back of the Airpods to no avail. I can't
figure out what to press on the Pros because I never had to do that in the
first place.

My phone is an 8+ so I know it's older, but things were all fine.

All of my other Bluetooth devices that are not the airpods of either kind
are connected and working fine.

Why not the airpods?

I tried to call Apple aCcessiblity and waited on the phone more than two
hours before giving up. 

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

 

Deb

 

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RE: Question About Notifications in the Watch App

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Go to the Watch app on the phone, and make any changes you wish under 
notifications. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question About Notifications in the Watch App

How can you tell when a notification is either on or off in the watch app? I 
keep getting a message about breathe and I want to make it stop sending to me. 
It vibrates which I didn't want to hear the sound it makes any longer. Also, I 
can't make Siri work on my watch. She keeps telling me to repeat what I said 
again. I was trying to get her to set a timer and I never could get her to do 
that on my watch so I manually did it. It does not say to my knowledge when a 
notification is ehter on or off.

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Re: Need Help with Chimes

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Are you talking about the Chimes on the watch under accessibility?
Asking because you mentioned your watch. My series 3 watch is not
getting those chimes either since the update. It's a very tiny chime
at best and the haptic is more defined than the sound. but I actually
don't think it's workong in my Series 3 watch where it did before.
If you're talking about the chime app for the iPhone, that hasn't
worked for me since iOs 8 or so. I know it works for Richard, we've
been there before on this, but there's nothing I can get it to do on
our 6S+ or 8+ here.


On 9/18/20, Jed Barton  wrote:
> Is the app just called chimes?
>
> On 9/18/20, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> I see chimes in accessibility and I have everything turned on. Should I
>> turn
>> prominent on or leave default on? I never saw chimes in notifications
>> where
>> you could turn it on on the locked screen. Chimes worked until I had to
>> pair
>> the watch again. I just can't figure out what is not turned on to make it
>> work. My alarms go off when they are supposed to. Also, how do I get rid
>> of
>> breathe or at least turn it off?I have the series 3 watch with cellular.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Richard Turner
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Did you double tap on the place it says "On?"
>>> Also, did you make sure that in Notification settings you have it set to
>>> allow on lock screen and sounds are on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>>> Edward Herbert
>>>
> On Sep 18, 2020, at 4:46 AM, Shirley Baker 
> wrote:
>
 I have my chimes set to bells and they are supposed to go off on the
 half hour but they are not and I have that selected. What else do I
 need
 to do to make chimes work? I have the series 3 watch. Since getting my
 update finally downloaded, everything else is working fine at last!

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3

[Deb Cook Lewis]

My update completed. We don't get much for our Series 3's but I hope we got 
some security updates at least.
Now I'd like to get a couple of my apps back, but the app store just hangs. 
This may be because everyone is updating so I'll wait for that, but I hope this 
doesn't mean something else is wrong.
Ugh.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3

Hello,
I did end up having to completely reset my watch to get it to work. I took off 
everything I could find including all the watch faces except the one I was 
using. Once I did the reset it let me start the update. It is in the middle of 
it right now and is at 44% complete. It is taking forever this time for some 
reason. I hope all this frustration is worth it. LOL.



Greg Wocher

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Mine is updating now and I did not reset it. I read through all the 
> forums and saw that this is a pretty common problem even with models 
> higher than the series 3. So after I removed everything it would let 
> me remove, and i do mean everything, I then followed their suggestion 
> to simply restart both the watch and the phone. Finally, it showed 
> enough cleared space and the eternal download has started. This may 
> take days but at least it's happening. Most of what I uninstalled I 
> don't need back, and the couple I do I'll just redownload. The other 
> thing they confirmed is that the install doesn't actually need nearly 
> what it says and that it will be easy enough to put things back once 
> it's done. Very annoying though.
> 
>> On 9/17/20, Peter Logan  wrote:
>> Probably you will need to set it up as a new watch .. and then 
>> restore your apps from a ICloud backup.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Contact apple and discuss it with them as the s3 is meant to take the 
>> watch os 7 version.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Deb Cook Lewis
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:07 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> OK. It says I’m about a half gig short of the space required for the update.
>> I have deleted all 3rd party apps, I have no songs, pictures etc. 
>> I’ve deleted every app that Apple says I can delete from the native 
>> apps. I’m still the same amount short for the install. If I have even 
>> less than Apple provided on my watch, how I can I get to less than 
>> this long enough to install the update? I hate to completely erase the watch.
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Mine is updating now and I did not reset it. I read through all the
forums and saw that this is a pretty common problem even with models
higher than the series 3. So after I removed everything it would let
me remove, and i do mean everything, I then followed their suggestion
to simply restart both the watch and the phone. Finally, it showed
enough cleared space and the eternal download has started. This may
take days but at least it's happening. Most of what I uninstalled I
don't need back, and the couple I do I'll just redownload. The other
thing they confirmed is that the install doesn't actually need nearly
what it says and that it will be easy enough to put things back once
it's done. Very annoying though.

On 9/17/20, Peter Logan  wrote:
> Probably you will need to set it up as a new watch .. and then restore your
> apps from a ICloud backup.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3
>
>
>
> Contact apple and discuss it with them as the s3 is meant to take the watch
> os 7 version.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Deb Cook Lewis
> Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:07 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3
>
>
>
> OK. It says I’m about a half gig short of the space required for the update.
> I have deleted all 3rd party apps, I have no songs, pictures etc. I’ve
> deleted every app that Apple says I can delete from the native apps. I’m
> still the same amount short for the install. If I have even less than Apple
> provided on my watch, how I can I get to less than this long enough to
> install the update? I hate to completely erase the watch.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
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Can't Upgrade apple Watch Series 3

[Deb Cook Lewis]

OK. It says I'm about a half gig short of the space required for the update.
I have deleted all 3rd party apps, I have no songs, pictures etc. I've
deleted every app that Apple says I can delete from the native apps. I'm
still the same amount short for the install. If I have even less than Apple
provided on my watch, how I can I get to less than this long enough to
install the update? I hate to completely erase the watch.

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

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RE: Seeking recommendation for a Mic

[Deb Cook Lewis]

It does work fine on the Mac as well. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendation for a Mic

 

I use the Logitech H800 wireless headphone. It has a USB dongle that you can 
plug into a USB port and the computer treats it as an audio device. 

There is also a bluetooth channel that you can pair with your iPhone and toggle 
between the two with a three position switch on the right ear.

The switch is off, bluetooth, and USB dongle from bottom to top.

It has a decent microphone that is like a boom mic, only very short.

It tucks behind the right ear pad, and when lowered, reaches about have way to 
my mouth, but no one has any trouble hearing me.

I use a Windows computer, so I don't know if Mac computers would treat the USB 
Dongle differently.

You cannot use both at once. Either it is on the bluetooth channel, so you can 
talk and listen on the iPhone or on the USB channel with the computer.

I paid about $62 for it from Amazon.

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com  

 





On May 26, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Brett Campbell mailto:blindinnova...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, like many, I’m now working from home. I meet over Zoom, Webex, and VOIP 
calls with Jabber. I don’t know anything about mics, or mic headset 
combinations. In a perfect world I’d have a solution I can use with my Mac and 
iPhone. I’d appreciate any suggestions if you have any.





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Re: Accessing zoom breakout rooms with voiceover on an iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Depending on how the host creates the breakout rooms will determine
whether or not you have to do anything. But the doing is minimal
regardless.
On your other problem, go into the Zoom settings and turn off the
audio indication and also displaying when people come. My Iphone is
completely silent during zoom meetings without turning off speech or
leaving the zoom window. This is all controlled in Zoom settings.
Finally, in windows I really do recommend bryan Hartgen's scripts
which shut it all up. But again, actually configuring the client is
your friend because zoom gives you a lot of control.


On 5/22/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
> OK. Thanks for the responses. I guess I will just see how it goes.
> MaryOK. Thanks for the responses. I guess I will just see how it goes.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> Mary,
>> Speaking generally, only the meeting's host can manage and assign
>> people to break out rooms. If you are a co-host, you do not have the
>> ability. I have been using Zoom a lot for work, and this week we've
>> been doing a lot of the break out rooms. I haven't done it on the
>> iPhone, and probably won't since I usually Zoom when at work. I would
>> assume it works much the same way on iOS that it does on the computer.
>> All of this is mute unless you are the host though. If you are
>> attending a meeting and will be assigned to a break out room, there's
>> nothing you have to do other than show up at the appointed time. The
>> host handles everything else.
>>
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>>> On 5/22/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> My zoom experience has been quite limited. I get a link in an email,
>>> double
>>> tap on it, and get into the zoom meeting. And I turn speech off, so I
>>> don’t
>>> hear voice over chattering about who joined, left, and what they’re
>>> typing
>>> into the chat box. That’s all very nice, as long as there is basically
>>> somebody lecturing, and then perhaps people asking questions one at a
>>> time
>>> that get answered. But I am supposed to be part of a zoom meeting in a
>>> few
>>> days which will include getting into breakout rooms. How do you do that
>>> on
>>> an iPhone with voiceover?
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
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RE: Kindle Books on iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I believe you have to go to your digital part of Amazon and select which device 
or devices you want them to appear on. 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle Books on iPhone

 

I would have thought that when you opened the Kindle app they would be in your 
library. 

Perhaps someone has another idea?

 

Richard

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Sent from the iPhone SE 2020





On Apr 27, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All,

 

Someone has purchase 2 Kindle books for me and I got emails asking me to accept 
the books.  Well I’ve done that more than once and am unable to figure out how 
to get the books.

 

I do most of my email on my PC but usually read Kindle books on my iPhone 7 
running 13.3.

 

Hoping someone has a suggestion as to exactly what I need to do or where I need 
to go.

 

Many thanks for any assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

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RE: Any app that makes sounds every second?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I just looked and the metronome I have is called Tempo Perfect and it is still 
on the app store. 

It has 3 poorly labeled adjustments. Set the first to 60 and the other two to 0 
and you’ve got a beat every second.

 

 

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TaraPrakash
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

Thank you for this wonderful suggestion.  There seems to be a bit of noise in 
the line but it will do my job 

  

Thanks again 

 

Sent from my iPhone





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Until you find an app that makes a noise every second, and I hope you do, I 
have a very low tech work around. If you call 303-499-7111, that is the 
National Bureau of Standards clock, the same one that is heard on shortwave 
WWV. I don't know how long it will let you listen before it cuts you off, I 
think it is about 3 or 4 minutes, but you could record this and use it as a 
counter. After I listen for a while, I get pretty good at being able to count 
it myself. Thanks to Ed Potter, he stated in one of the Playback issues that 
the most accurate way he had found to count seconds was to say 1 mississippi, 2 
mississippi, and so on. Hey, I warned you that this is a work around until you 
can do better. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Sadly, I think you are stuck with searching the app store and reading all the 
app descriptions that even remotely talk about counting seconds. 

 

Richard

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Sent from the iPhone SE 2020





On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:57 AM, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Rather than telling me what time it was after every minute, I want iPhone to 
just indicate one minute was over  . But , preferably,  I want to register the 
end of seconds  not minutes 
Thanks 


Sent from my iPhone




On Apr 27, 2020, at 2:42 AM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

You could do it by the minute with your iPhone by unlocking your phone, 
focusing on the clock. Leave the focus there, you should get a minute by minute 
announcement. At least it works for us.

Wayne and Arlene

 

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To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:49 PM

Subject: RE: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

 

What, you mean like a clock?

 

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Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 6:37 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

Hello all.   Is there any built in utility in iPhone or any app that indicates 
the passing of seconds?   There used to be a radio station on short wave which 
used to chime every second in an ounce time every 15 minutes

 

 

 

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RE: Any app that makes sounds every second?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I haven’t followed this too closely so forgive me if this has been suggested, 
but I used to use a metronome for this purpose. Just set it to 60 beats. There 
used to be several accessible ones on the app store, but haven’t looked 
recently. It worked perfectly though.

 

 

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

Until you find an app that makes a noise every second, and I hope you do, I 
have a very low tech work around. If you call 303-499-7111, that is the 
National Bureau of Standards clock, the same one that is heard on shortwave 
WWV. I don't know how long it will let you listen before it cuts you off, I 
think it is about 3 or 4 minutes, but you could record this and use it as a 
counter. After I listen for a while, I get pretty good at being able to count 
it myself. Thanks to Ed Potter, he stated in one of the Playback issues that 
the most accurate way he had found to count seconds was to say 1 mississippi, 2 
mississippi, and so on. Hey, I warned you that this is a work around until you 
can do better. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Sadly, I think you are stuck with searching the app store and reading all the 
app descriptions that even remotely talk about counting seconds. 

 

Richard

Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020





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Rather than telling me what time it was after every minute, I want iPhone to 
just indicate one minute was over  . But , preferably,  I want to register the 
end of seconds  not minutes 
Thanks 


Sent from my iPhone




On Apr 27, 2020, at 2:42 AM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

You could do it by the minute with your iPhone by unlocking your phone, 
focusing on the clock. Leave the focus there, you should get a minute by minute 
announcement. At least it works for us.

Wayne and Arlene

 

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To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:49 PM

Subject: RE: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

 

What, you mean like a clock?

 

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TaraPrakash

Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 6:37 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Any app that makes sounds every second?

 

Hello all.   Is there any built in utility in iPhone or any app that indicates 
the passing of seconds?   There used to be a radio station on short wave which 
used to chime every second in an ounce time every 15 minutes

 

 

 

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RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

[Deb Cook Lewis]

If the wire is connected, does this block use of the internal mike or can you 
use that? 

-Original Message-
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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

If you need to use it for calls, then no.  The microphone won't work
if the headset is wired.  It is a fantastic sounding headset though.
I might actually purchase myself an extra headset just because it
sounds so good.

On 3/26/20, andrew  wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
> I heard the tutorial & know of the company that you are referring to. I'm
> not sure that phone calls are possible when the wire is on. Are you able to
> use headset for calls when the wire is on?
> drew
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds
> please
>
> The headset covers the entire ears.  I even have an audio tutorial that
> talks about all the features of the headset.  The tutorial was done by
> another company that unfortunately I was very over charged for the headset.
>
> On 3/26/20, Marie  wrote:
>> I keep looking for something like this. Could you give a little more
>> description of the headset? Is it over the head and do the ear pieces
>> cover
>>
>> the ear entirely or just sit on the outside? Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no
>> earbuds please
>>
>> Hi Andrew.  I think I've found what you're looking for.  There is a
>> company called Tribit and they make a set of wireless bluetooth
>> headphones that can also be used wired.  This company not only
>> includes a case with their headphones, but a cable as well that can
>> turn them from wireless bluetooth headphones into a wired pair.  They
>> only cost $40 and by the way they sound, you'd think they were around
>> $100 instead of $40.  I've got a set of these headphones and they
>> sound incredible.  Here's the link from amazon.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_at
>> f_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8=A0423315UF4AFWAT1LOJ=%2FTribit-XFree-B
>> luetooth-Headphones-Built%2Fdp%2FB0759QFPQ3%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fkeyw
>> ords%3Dtribit%2Bheadset%26qid%3D1585218885%26sr%3D8-1-spons%26psc%3D1&
>> qualifier=1585218885=5335408836311685=sp_atf
>>
>> On 3/26/20, andrew  wrote:
>>> I wasn’t the only one who got taken on that deal.
>>>
>>> Going to return them ASAP
>>>
>>> drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no
>>> earbuds please
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could imagine a $14 headset sounding pretty awful.
>>>
>>> I hope you returned them.
>>>
>>> I know there are some that can sound pretty good.
>>>
>>> Let me do a little more digging.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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>>> >> .turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84
>>> df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219=9qG
>>> 6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
>>>
>>>
>>> “
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:28 PM, andrew >> 
>>>
>>>  >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have the adapter actually. Thank you for at least answering my
>>> inquiry Richard.
>>>
>>> I bought a wired headset  on amazon for $14.. That was a terrible
>>> waste of fourteen bucks.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:55 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no
>>> earbuds please
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your subject line said, wired.
>>>
>>> The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning
>>> plug.
>>>
>>> Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m sure there are some out there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
>>> Oregon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Sent: 

RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah it just is very inconsistent though about working.
When it works, it's cool.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

There is a blank line between the headers and the content. Also when you go 
down the page to say "states in the US." You will hear a plus or minus sign 
spoken on the far left. If there is a Plus sign spoken, press the spacebar to 
expand the table content and then arrow down through the states. Looks like 
this:

+ Breakdown of states in the United States
Press space on the plus sign and you will hear:
- (minus)  Breakdown of states in the United States


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

I did the same and it didn't work. Tried in Chrome and Firefox with same 
result. I just see the table headers even though I clicked on various of the 
headers. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
karl Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

I went to it in Firefox and then to statistics by state and there was a table 
with states in order of infections. This part was working for me.

Karl



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

If it helps I am using IE I am not shure if it works in other brosers or not. 
From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sharonda 
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Sent: March 26, 2020 11:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

I'm with Mich on this. I don't see how to read the statistics on the site 
either. Am I missing something?

On 3/26/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> I have tried this but can’t figger out how to get it working on my 
> windows pc. I have gone to the menu expanded it gone to the stistickis 
> and all it says is one hedding and that is it. From Mich.
>
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>
> Have not tried this on my phone, but it is extremely accessible on a 
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> https://cvstats.net
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RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

[Deb Cook Lewis]

OK. This time it did open up the table for me. I think it might be a bit hit 
and miss but it’s lovely when it does.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

 

Have not tried this on my phone, but it is extremely accessible on a Windows 
machine and updated continuously. 

https://cvstats.net

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RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I did the same and it didn't work. Tried in Chrome and Firefox with same 
result. I just see the table headers even though I clicked on various of the 
headers. 

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karl Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

I went to it in Firefox and then to statistics by state and there was a table 
with states in order of infections. This part was working for me.

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Subject: RE: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

If it helps I am using IE I am not shure if it works in other brosers or not. 
From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sharonda 
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Sent: March 26, 2020 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible COVID-19 Statistics Tracker

I'm with Mich on this. I don't see how to read the statistics on the site 
either. Am I missing something?

On 3/26/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> I have tried this but can’t figger out how to get it working on my 
> windows pc. I have gone to the menu expanded it gone to the stistickis 
> and all it says is one hedding and that is it. From Mich.
>
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RE: update on the Bluetooth Instant pot

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I never had any problem with mine in iOS 13 all versions. It’s about the only 
Bluetooth device I haven’t had trouble with.

 

 

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terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the Bluetooth Instant pot

 

Hello all,

I am excited to report that the Instant pot with Bluetooth works better than 
ever before with the iPhone in 13.3

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

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RE: Setting up iPhone 11 from iPhone 6S Plus with Quick Setup

[Deb Cook Lewis]

When I did this, it didn’t take more than a half hour.

But her phone is much older than mine was and I wonder if the slower processor 
impacts this. Still, I wouldn’t think it should take hours like this. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up iPhone 11 from iPhone 6S Plus with Quick Setup

 

So, here is the scenario:

My mother has an iPhone 6S Plus and she recently bought an iPhone 11.

Today I spoke with her on the phone to help her set it up.

I recently bought an iPad Air for my business and used my iPhone 8 and the 
quick setup option, after I scanned the barcode on the iPad with my phone it 
took a very short time for the setup to complete, I had to enter the passcode I 
used on my iPhone and after that the iPad configured itself, it automatically 
connected to my WiFi and so on.

When it was done it asked if I wanted to restore a backup or set up as a new 
device and I chose to set up the iPad as a new device.

I did not notice that any apps got transferred via the quick setup, when I just 
looked all my photos from my iPhone are also on the iPad, but I am not sure if 
this happened via the quick setup or whether they simply downloaded because I 
have iCloud Photo Library and Photostream turned on.

 

Anyways, here my question: if others have used this quick connect or quick 
setup feature where you bring your new phone close to your old one and then 
scan the code, how long did it take?

On my Mom’s new iPhone 11 it said after she scanned the code that it was 
setting up and this could take several minutes, but it’s been saying this now 
for the last 5 or so hours.

She says there still is a little wheel that is spinning as if it’s doing stuff, 
but it just goes on and on.

I even called Apple Accessibility, but the guy I spoke with couldn’t really 
give me an answer. I Know you have to have Bluetooth on for this to work, but 
what I don’t know is what actually gets transferred and if, for example, all 
photos which potentially could be several Gigabytes of data, get transferred 
via Bluetooth to Bluetooth then this could of course take a long time. But why 
would Apple then say “this can take several minutes”, they should “this can 
take 8 hours”.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: help with apple watch issue

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yes, Apple has a formula for determining with each exercise what constitutes a 
required heartrate and movement ratio. If you want every minute to count 
regardless of what you are doing, select Other as the workout type. In the 
regular categories they provide, only my elliptical gets me a minute per minute 
of activity. All others are less depending on how strenuous, but Other is 
documented to give you a minute for every minute regardless. 

 

 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: help with apple watch issue

 

Interesting thoughts,

 

I can understand the minutes of exercise walking needing to be higher to make 
up for a minute of activity walked,

But if you do a 2 hour walk with an HR up around 100 bpm 

That to me is a good stress free workout with a higher than normal HR meaning 
your exercise rate is higher.

 

I’ll have to contact apple accessibility.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: help with apple watch issue

 

It could simply be the case that not every minute of your walk counts as 1 
minute of “exercise”

You may want to call Apple Accessibility or do some Google searches to see if 
that is the case, but in a similar way, if I ride my spin bike for 20 minutes 
this counts as exercise, but it does not count towards my “Move” goal or at 
least not entirely. I assume in order for an activity to be considered exercise 
maybe a certain heart rate needs to be achieved? .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 2:09 AM
To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: help with apple watch issue

 

Morning all,

 

I have a question re workouts on an apple watch Series 4,

 

I use my apple watch workout daily,

The main work out is the outdoor walk 

 

What I’m finding is that what I see in the activity report which is kilojoules  
 (movement), exercise (minutes moving),

And standing,

 

I’ve noticed over the passed few months that the exercise or movement time 
recording doesn’t meet with what the outdoor walk in this case workout report.

 

Tonight I walked for 35 minutes on the workout,

After walking 25 minutes to work this morning and again on my walk home so 
approx. 1.5 hours of walking,

 

Yet my exercise activity app on the watch records only 16 minutes,

 

I want to know if anyone else has noticed such a thing and if so what they did?

 

Note this is an apple watch sport series 4,

Running Watch OS 6.1.1

 

 

And sincs to my iphone 11 pro max running the latest Ios version.

Not that it should matter but all are space grey.

 

Cheers for any information people might be able to assist with.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Simon F

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RE: Weight Watcher's App

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah she actually couldn’t do it with VO off, but I don’t think I’ve tried that 
in the last update. 

And I’ve also bought stuff from their store. I find that’s easier on a PC with 
a browser. The trick there is to tab through the links and they will read 
correctly but if you arrow through them they do not. 

I really wish they’d fix the weirdness in the app though.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weight Watcher's App

 

If you are referring to, in the profile, where it says, 24 seven coaching, 
monthly pass, find a studio, invite friends, yes, you are correct. Voiceover we 
are unable to go on each one individually. I find whatever of the four that I 
hit it always goes to the studio. I can’t seem to figure that one out at all. 
So the only thing I do Is when I bring my phone up to have them scan it when I 
get Wade, turn voiceover off and let them do it. That is the only way that can 
happen. If you’ve turned off your voiceover for your sister to try it she would 
be able to do that then. I know that’s not an answer and I’m hoping that if 
enough of us contact we watchers, they would be able to do something. However, 
I did go on to the area where you could talk to a coach and they just told me 
that perhaps voiceover doesn’t work with that. I said no kidding, That is what 
I’m asking you to help me with. I asked them if they had a disability person 
they are to be able to help us out. They said they have nothing like that. So I 
don’t know where to go to from here to help us deal with that situation.

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On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Well adding foods is very accessible. What puzzles me though is that when you 
go into the profile, about four of the menu options are on one button. Even my 
sighted sister could not get it to display my monthly pass for example. On the 
Android app, all of that works very well. I don’t know what’s with the iOS 
though because this problem has existed for several versions.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Diane Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Weight Watcher's App

 

Hi Linda. Yes, I am using the Weight Watcher app and it is extremely 
accessible. It works very well.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!






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Is anyone using the ww mobile app? If so, how is the accessibility? For 
example, accessing the food database and adding foods that you have eaten? 

 

 

Thank you, 

 

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RE: Weight Watcher's App

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well adding foods is very accessible. What puzzles me though is that when you 
go into the profile, about four of the menu options are on one button. Even my 
sighted sister could not get it to display my monthly pass for example. On the 
Android app, all of that works very well. I don’t know what’s with the iOS 
though because this problem has existed for several versions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weight Watcher's App

 

Hi Linda. Yes, I am using the Weight Watcher app and it is extremely 
accessible. It works very well.

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Is anyone using the ww mobile app? If so, how is the accessibility? For 
example, accessing the food database and adding foods that you have eaten? 

 

 

Thank you, 

 

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RE: Something Braille Device users will find helpful.

[Deb Cook Lewis]

If I disconnect the Braille display, it is my experience that the keyboard 
returns immediately by double tapping an edit field. 

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terri...@gmail.com
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Thank you Duane,
This is a great tip!
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth


-Original Message-
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Steele
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 1:17 PM
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Subject: Something Braille Device users will find helpful.

Here's a tip for Braille Device users.

One of my first postings to the iPhone list was an inquiry about what to do 
when the keyboard on the phone is hidden.  On the day that I posted my 
question, I had tried to use my phone's keyboard, only to find that it wasn't 
there.  I was advised that the only way I could make the keyboard visible again 
was to perform an action on the Braille device, spacebar plus keys 1, 4 and 6, 
the sh sign.  Ever since that time, I go into a text field such as a text 
message and perform this operation before turning off the braille device.  The 
performed action is a toggle operation.  So I suggest it be performed whenever 
you're about to put your device away.  Otherwise, you could be out somewhere 
without the device as I was, and have no way to bring the keyboard's visibility 
back into Focus .
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RE: question on an app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

On my phone, the app for the Bluetooth model is called Smart Cooker and the app 
for the WIFI model is called Instant Pot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question on an app

 

That's weird. I thought that was correct, but in my apps listed on the phone, 
the apps I would open to use, it just shows up as Instant Pot. I wanted to make 
sure they were the same thing.

 

Thank you.

 

Vicki

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 8:23 AM

Subject: RE: question on an app

 

If you mean Remote Control for Smart WiFi 
  
then this is the official app for the Instant Pot Smart WiFi which you would 
need to connect your Instant Pot Smart WiFi to your home wireless network and 
to control and monitor it.

This was updated on December 6, nothing is said in the What’s New about 
Voiceover improvements, hopefully some who have one of these Instant Pots and 
use it can report if much has changed for better or worse.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 3:12 PM
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Hi,

 

What is the Remote Control Smart Wifi App?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: Food scales update

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Siri reads them. I don’t use Hey Siri so I do have to interact with my phone 
initially, but if you are hands-free with siri, you would be with this as well.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

How do you get read-outs? Does Voiceover speak the weight as you add it or do 
you have to interact with the scale? For me any scale which would require me to 
do anything to hear the weight would be out.

I enjoy baking a fair bit and since I am German I like to bake German cakes and 
pastries and almost all recipes require ingredients to be weighed, e.g. the 
recipe will ask for 300 grams of flour, 150 grams of sugar, 100 grams of butter 
etc. This is much more precise than if the recipes asks for 2 cups of flour and 
1 cup of sugar or whatever and the My Weigh talking scale speaks the weight as 
I add ingredients into the bowl. You have to stop for a couple of seconds and 
let it settle, but it’s quite quick and easy and I certainly don’t want to 
touch my phone or ask SIRI first before finding out how much is on the scale.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

Another scale that has been discussed is the Smart Chef. 

The accessibility of this unit is based on Siri shortcuts. The app developer 
has provided a lot of them in the app, and you just have to incorporate the 
ones you want. So there’s a bit of work to getting it going. 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

Side note, I put my scales be it the My Weigh ones and even this drop scale in 
zip lock bags to avoid this exact scenario. The drop scales are more 
sturdy/resistant about that sort of thing, but I’ve been known to have off aim 
every blue moon and baggies help to protect against this and makes for easy 
clean up. 

 

Cristóbal

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Food scales update

 

It started out ok, but then it got to where I couldn’t tell anymore . Was like 
water got into the speaker...yet I never had it near liquids ... It was simple 
to use ...

 

Sent from my IPhome.

 

On Dec 2, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I agree that the voice isn’t great, but I don’t usually have any issues 
understanding it and since it’s a simple utility the voice isn’t such a big 
deal for me. It does what it’s supposed to do and that is what matters to me.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

I had a MyWay .. the voice was always raspy and difficult to understand .. 
maybe I got a bad one .. 

 

I think someone else a while back had mentioned one other connected scale, 
other than the Drop .. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

HAHA! Thanks…? I am become death. Destroyer of worlds and talking scales or 
something. 

I actually still have a My Weigh scale brand new in its box as an emergency 
backup, but so far, this drop scale has held up.

 

Cristóbal

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

When it comes to a scale I  still like the MyWeigh talking scale. I know 
Cristobal seems to break them at a prodigious rate, but I had my first for 20 
years and then the company sent me a replacement for the shipping cost of $25, 
that was now I think 3 years ago and the new one is going strong.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 1

RE: Food scales update

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Another scale that has been discussed is the Smart Chef. 

The accessibility of this unit is based on Siri shortcuts. The app developer 
has provided a lot of them in the app, and you just have to incorporate the 
ones you want. So there’s a bit of work to getting it going. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

Side note, I put my scales be it the My Weigh ones and even this drop scale in 
zip lock bags to avoid this exact scenario. The drop scales are more 
sturdy/resistant about that sort of thing, but I’ve been known to have off aim 
every blue moon and baggies help to protect against this and makes for easy 
clean up. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Food scales update

 

It started out ok, but then it got to where I couldn’t tell anymore . Was like 
water got into the speaker...yet I never had it near liquids ... It was simple 
to use ...

 

Sent from my IPhome.

 

On Dec 2, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I agree that the voice isn’t great, but I don’t usually have any issues 
understanding it and since it’s a simple utility the voice isn’t such a big 
deal for me. It does what it’s supposed to do and that is what matters to me.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

I had a MyWay .. the voice was always raspy and difficult to understand .. 
maybe I got a bad one .. 

 

I think someone else a while back had mentioned one other connected scale, 
other than the Drop .. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

HAHA! Thanks…? I am become death. Destroyer of worlds and talking scales or 
something. 

I actually still have a My Weigh scale brand new in its box as an emergency 
backup, but so far, this drop scale has held up.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

When it comes to a scale I  still like the MyWeigh talking scale. I know 
Cristobal seems to break them at a prodigious rate, but I had my first for 20 
years and then the company sent me a replacement for the shipping cost of $25, 
that was now I think 3 years ago and the new one is going strong.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Food scales update

 

It’s the one I’m still using. I bought it back in March of 2018. Replaced the 
battery which cost me less than $5 in Spring of this year. I think there were 
one or maybe two iOS updates in this time which for me messed with Vos ability 
to announce weight in real time, but those were quickly acknowledged by staff 
and fixed.

I believe there were one or two more models also mentioned for kitchen scale 
purposes, but for me at least, the drop scale has so far worked like a champ. 
I’ve had no need to look for a replacement device. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Food scales update

 

I know a while ago there was some discussion on this forum about the Drop 
kitchen scale and it’s app.  Wondering if that is still the best choice for a 
kitchen food scale, and accompanying IPhone app?  Are there any other connected 
scales that people are using that are accessible with the IPhone?

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RE: Niv text version of the Bible wioutout the footnotes and references.

[Deb Cook Lewis]

You could put either of them on your MPower, but the .brl might be the best 
choice for you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri elliott
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Niv text version of the Bible wioutout the footnotes and 
references.

 

Would I be able to put the h t m l on my braille notetaker?  I don’t know 
anything about the brl version whether that could be transferred to the empower 
braille notetaker.

 

Terrin 

Sent from my iPhone





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I have it in html and brl. Would either of these work for you? The html is 
broken into books and chapters where each chapter is a separate html.

 

**

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  

 

From: terri elliott  
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:49 PM
To: vi phone  
Subject: Niv text version of the Bible wioutout the footnotes and references.

 

Hi.  I am trying to find a text version of the Niv version that does not have 
the footnotes and references in it.  So far all of the versions that I have 
found have the footnotes and references right in the middle of the chapter and 
the verses which is hard to find out where you left off to read the next 
verses.  Thanks much.

 

Terri 

 

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RE: making the at sign in braille

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The at sign is dots 4-7 if you're writing in 8-dot computer Braille for an 
email address etc. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nancy Lynn
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making the at sign in braille

We keep getting nothing but your signature. Will you please write an actual 
message?
Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making the at sign in braille



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:23 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

Wayne, just got your signature.  Please resend your message.  Thanks.

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:46 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you 
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a 
senior moment.  Smile!! Thanks for help.

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If you are using an iPhone with a braille display, here's how you do it. Go 
to eight-dot braille with the 2-3-6 chord. Then use dot 7 which is right 
next to the dot 3 key. Use dot 7 and dog 4 together. Then, if you need to go 
back to grade do the 2-3-6 chord again. I have to flip between the two when 
I have to do web addresses. Hope this helpsffl



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If you are using a braille display with an iPhone and ar
using grade two  braille,


are using a braille display with an iPhone, here's how to do an "at" sign. 
Go to eight-dot braille input, (Chord 2-3-6). There, type together the dot 7 
key and the dot 4 key. The dot 7 key is located next to the dot 3 key. After 
you do that sign, go back to grade two (contracted braille) with chord 
2-3-6. Whenever I do an email address or web address, I switch between the 
two. Eight-dot braille and 

RE: ScripTalk app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

It really works well though an dgoes on the plus side for upgrading.

With some NFC type functions I’ve had to take the case off of my phone, but 
with scriptalk I don’t have to at all, and it quickly find the tag. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenny Bomareto
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app

 

I put the app on my phone earlier this evening. It works fantastic.

 

On a side note,  I love my ID made, and how it gives the blind great 
independence that we really need. However there is one downside to the ID mate. 
 doing your prescriptions works much better than say if barcodes were on the 
bottles without the tag on the bottom of the phone  just automatically find the 
barcodes without having to start all over like ID mait users have to do when 
searching for products or items that people are looking for using the ID mait .

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 12, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



That explains it.  I’m not ready to take the IOS 13 plunge just yet.  Waiting 
for some big bug fixes before I do.  Thanks. Now I’m not totally annoyed or 
feeling like I don’t know what the heck I’m doing.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: ScripTalk app

 

Paula,

 

Be aware that you must be running iOS 13.x for ScripTalk. I'm still running iOS 
12.4.1 and when I searched for ScripTalk in the Apps Store, I also didn't get a 
hit for it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: ScripTalk app

 

Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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RE: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

No, it's the iOS. It's jumping all over in messages too just since this update. 
Really a mess.


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Teresa Christian
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
Apple store to get my phone looked at.
It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
change and it seems to be working fine.
Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
never think would get fixed with just that change.
cursor bouncing all over the place
Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason
Lots of intrusive messages such as
Try this and try that
Suggested this and that messages
intrusive autofill when typing
"voice control is not listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone
I think there were more, but I can't remember them all.
It was super bizarre behavior.
My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
what was going on this time.
Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the Apple Store.

For the person having trouble reading email.
I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
to see what you might be talking about.
I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
the reading part that way.
Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
"More Actions Available"
When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
junk to get rid of it.
Has someone else found the delete button?
Teresa☺




On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not sure if
> you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, turning it off
> helps with composing, but reading is another issue altogether. I spend so
> much time just looking for the body of a message that it is ridiculous. And
> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just double tap
> it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and sometimes the
> delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at the bottom of the
> screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful right now and I really
> hope it gets fixed soon.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it worked
>> for you.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email
>> app
>>
>> penny,
>> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
>> Sandy
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>>
>>> Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>  wrote:

 Hi,

  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am having
 sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top of my email
 inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, still running 12.4
 or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I open
 an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top of the
 inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I have to trawl
 through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become unusable for mail. I
 have tried a reset settings, but it made no difference.

 Help please! Sandy.

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RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Our paratransit did this in our old location, but when I added them to my 
contacts that problem went away.


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Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:47 PM
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My paratransit provider makes a robocall to let you know that the driver has 
arrived.  This is often flagged as unknown caller.  If that call doesn't 
come through, I miss my ride.

Andy

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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!


Probably so, since it cannot know that this one unknown caller is important 
and you can't know which numbers to add to your contacts in advance.

That is why it is an option.

In your case, and others, probably not a good thing.

In my case, it is fantastic.

Since they can leave a message I figure I will find out when I touch the 
phone icon and it says there are 1, 2, or whatever new items.

I trust everyone is able to make their own choices and will make the one 
best for them.
Richard

 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

If you enable this, doesn’t it also mean that anyone ringing through an 
office switchboard will also be rejected? When clinics or government 
agencies ring me, they also appear as unknown caller.
Harry

> On 28 Sep 2019, at 19:55, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Amen to that one, Richard! I wanted that and implemented it first thing.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Silence Unknown Callers is great!
>
> I know some have complained loudly and persistently about iOS13, but if it 
> added nothing but the silence unknown callers, it is completely worth it 
> to me.
>
>
>
> I was checking my recent calls  list for a completely unrelated issue and 
> there was a number I did not recognize from another State.  It happened at 
> a time I was using Voice Dream Reader and I had no idea a call had 
> happened.
>
> They didn’t leave a voice mail, so as I do with such things, I blocked the 
> number.
>
>
>
> But, I did not get interrupted, which is fabulous in my book.
>
> I have received an increasing number of robo calls in the last 6 months, 
> so this is worth any other issues to me.
>
>
>
> Just my 2¢ worth.
>
>
>
> Richard
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>
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RE: ios13.1.1 the bugs

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The Braille drivers for all displays come from Apple. The hardware developers 
have very little control. So if something isn’t working right, you need to go 
to Apple. It doesn’t hurt to talk to both of course, but Apple has totally 
control. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kheve...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ios13.1.1 the bugs

 

My understanding is that humanware would no longer be updating the apex, 
especially now that the are using the android system with braillenote touch and 
touch plus.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: ios13.1.1 the bugs

 

Davie,

Has Apex had any firmware updates?

I have not handle one for several years.

If Humanware hasn't kept it updated, it could be an issue with the older 
hardware/bluetooth.

Or, it could be a What's App issue.

I don't use that app.

 

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Michael McKay mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi! Folks:

Concerning the bugs in this iOS 13.1.1 update. Is there any problem concerning 
the loss of power with the battery supply for the iPhone, or any other mobile 
phone when downloading this new update. I need to know for sure so that I can 
be aware of it. So far all the updates for me have not been any problem. But 
having a good battery supply, And a long lasting battery life while using my 
iPhone is in the Cecily for me. I cannot afford to keep plugging this thing in 
all day long as it would impede tasks that I need to do and information that I 
need to collect while away from my computer.

I would appreciate anybody on the list letting me know specifically what the 
situation is.

Thank you all in advance.

 

Regards!

Michael G MacKay BA,‘ 05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2019, at 10:33, Davy Cuppens mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi folks 

 

I must say: ios13.1.1 is not a disaster. I can work and live with it but for 
those that are in doubt whether to update or not I should say: wait wait wait.

2 major bugs 

First, the notification center is a mess like I said and Apple refuses to take 
steps to examine those bugs while there were 4 beta rounds in which blinds have 
reported these issues without any correction.

Second: there are still severe braille bugs with editing text with a brail 
display. After typing ca 30 seconds or 1 minute, voiceover stops giving 
feedback.

Regards

Davy 

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RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I haven’t contacted them about this yet but I most definitely plan to do so. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

 

Have you given that kind of detail to apple Accessibility?

 

I have wanted various kinds of rule settings for a long time.  I’d especially 
like to create a rule for Emails like you can in Outlook.

I know now I can mute threads kind of, but that isn’t quite the same.

If Apple could do something like what you are describing, that would be better 
for sure.

 

But again, they can leave messages and you can tell from the phone app that you 
have received a new call.  Unless someone turns off badges for the phone app.

 

Richard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

 

I like the way this is implemented on Android somewhat better though and for 
that reason I haven’t implemented it on my Iphone although I’d like to.

On Android, it doesn’t block all unknown callers but blocks those that might 
have spam characteristics. I had a lot of calls in my recents on that phone, a 
few of which were spam. It identified them all correctly. 

But I do get some legitimate calls from people I haven’t bothered to add to my 
contacts because they don’t call much, usually related to some event I’m part 
of or whatever, and they’re definitely not spam. So I feel like this is too 
global. Another example of calls I get are from state agencies which mask their 
numbers using other numbers. No idea why, it’s totally supid, and I can 
recognize them even if they’ve never used that number before, but it makes it 
impossible to enter them in your contacts because they never call from the real 
number. 

On my Android phone, it was able to determine that these weren’t spam, but if 
they were, I could make a rule for that and they’d probably all be. 

So I hope that Apple will get more sophisticated about this over time because I 
like the concept.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

 

I know some have complained loudly and persistently about iOS13, but if it 
added nothing but the silence unknown callers, it is completely worth it to me.

 

I was checking my recent calls  list for a completely unrelated issue and there 
was a number I did not recognize from another State.  It happened at a time I 
was using Voice Dream Reader and I had no idea a call had happened.

They didn’t leave a voice mail, so as I do with such things, I blocked the 
number.

 

But, I did not get interrupted, which is fabulous in my book.

I have received an increasing number of robo calls in the last 6 months, so 
this is worth any other issues to me.

 

Just my 2¢ worth.

 

Richard

 

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RE: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I like the way this is implemented on Android somewhat better though and for 
that reason I haven’t implemented it on my Iphone although I’d like to.

On Android, it doesn’t block all unknown callers but blocks those that might 
have spam characteristics. I had a lot of calls in my recents on that phone, a 
few of which were spam. It identified them all correctly. 

But I do get some legitimate calls from people I haven’t bothered to add to my 
contacts because they don’t call much, usually related to some event I’m part 
of or whatever, and they’re definitely not spam. So I feel like this is too 
global. Another example of calls I get are from state agencies which mask their 
numbers using other numbers. No idea why, it’s totally supid, and I can 
recognize them even if they’ve never used that number before, but it makes it 
impossible to enter them in your contacts because they never call from the real 
number. 

On my Android phone, it was able to determine that these weren’t spam, but if 
they were, I could make a rule for that and they’d probably all be. 

So I hope that Apple will get more sophisticated about this over time because I 
like the concept.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Silence Unknown Callers is great!

 

I know some have complained loudly and persistently about iOS13, but if it 
added nothing but the silence unknown callers, it is completely worth it to me.

 

I was checking my recent calls  list for a completely unrelated issue and there 
was a number I did not recognize from another State.  It happened at a time I 
was using Voice Dream Reader and I had no idea a call had happened.

They didn’t leave a voice mail, so as I do with such things, I blocked the 
number.

 

But, I did not get interrupted, which is fabulous in my book.

I have received an increasing number of robo calls in the last 6 months, so 
this is worth any other issues to me.

 

Just my 2¢ worth.

 

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Issues with Series 3 watch following Os Update

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I did that and at least yesterday it hadn’t helped. But today I notice 
that it did accept dictation at least once so maybe it’s a cloud problem. I 
haven’t tried since taking today’s phone update. But that it worked once was a 
better sign.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Issues with Series 3 watch following Os Update

 

As for the dictation issue, I had a client recently who would dictate into the 
name fields in her contacts, but it stopped working.

I know this isn’t a watch, but the solution might be related.

I went into the settings and toggled dictation off and then back on again.

That fixed it.

 

I don’t have an Apple watch, so I don’t know what the settings would be for it.

 

 

 

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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Issues with Series 3 watch following Os Update

 

Hiana,

My watch often automatically triggers a walking workout when I’m out. I have 
stopped using the work out because it’s sometimes problematic to quickly end 
the work out. Is there a way to end a workout session with Siri?

Thanks in advance, Keith

 

On Sep 27, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

 

Hi Deb,

 

I can confirm the first and third issues. I suggest contacting 
accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> . That way, the bugs 
can be fixed.

 

in the meantime, you can use Siri to adjust your workout. You can say, for 
example, "Start a 30-minute outdoor walk." I hope that helps.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Sep 26, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have two major problems with my Apple Watch since updating both my Iphone 8+ 
and the series 3 watch.

First, I cannot adjust any increments in the workout app. So, if you’re going 
to do something for ten minutes, you can’t use the picker item to adjust it to 
15 or 5. It just does nothing. 

Second, I cannot dictate in response to a message. I see this problem 
occasionally and the fix is to reboot the watch and the phone. It’s not 
working, and even a hard reset on the watch doesn’t get it. The dictate button 
responds, but no text is inserted. 

The final issue isn’t too big but it’s definitely not right. When I put the 
watch on and enter my passcode it has always been that you have to double tap 
each number and you get the confirmation click. Now you get nothing when double 
tapping the number but it does take. 

The first two I described though are both really annoying. If this is a known 
issue and there’s a work around, I’m all for it.

I would say in general that this has been the bumpiest update for me ever 
overall. It might be that my items are older, I usually have upgraded my phone 
by now but have really seen no need these days. 

But I would like to get my watch back in order, adjust my workout settings and 
dictate responses to my messages. So handy.

 

 

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Issues with Series 3 watch following Os Update

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have two major problems with my Apple Watch since updating both my Iphone
8+ and the series 3 watch.

First, I cannot adjust any increments in the workout app. So, if you're
going to do something for ten minutes, you can't use the picker item to
adjust it to 15 or 5. It just does nothing. 

Second, I cannot dictate in response to a message. I see this problem
occasionally and the fix is to reboot the watch and the phone. It's not
working, and even a hard reset on the watch doesn't get it. The dictate
button responds, but no text is inserted. 

The final issue isn't too big but it's definitely not right. When I put the
watch on and enter my passcode it has always been that you have to double
tap each number and you get the confirmation click. Now you get nothing when
double tapping the number but it does take. 

The first two I described though are both really annoying. If this is a
known issue and there's a work around, I'm all for it.

I would say in general that this has been the bumpiest update for me ever
overall. It might be that my items are older, I usually have upgraded my
phone by now but have really seen no need these days. 

But I would like to get my watch back in order, adjust my workout settings
and dictate responses to my messages. So handy.

 

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RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Deb Cook Lewis]

This happened to me. Iphone 8+. I called Apple Accesibility because I had not 
read about this problem. They advised me that the recommended solution was a 
hard reset. But they further recommended to do the hard reset with the phone 
unplugged because sometimes the phones are going into recovery mode instead of 
rebooting. He said that this shouldn’t happen unless plugged into a PC, but it 
most definitely was. We did it with mine plugged in, and sure enough it did go 
into recovery which forced me to do the procedure again unplugged. Having done 
it, I’ve had no more difficulties and it has been 24 hours. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

 

I had a client who was on the beta of iOS 13.1 last week who has an iPhone 7, 
who experienced this issue several times.

When he came in for our training session, I called his phone and I answered it 
and the phone worked fine.

I called his phone again and he answered it and it locked up.

He did the power button/home button reboot.

After that, he didn’t experience it again.

It certainly is not a wide spread issue.

But, if it keeps happening, you will need to deal with Apple directly.

 

You could try a reset of network settings I suppose but if it keeps up after 
that, then it is time to contact Apple.

 

 

 

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Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

 

Hi folks 

 

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?

And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?

Regards 

Davy 

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RE: Trouble With IPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well there are a few things to try for sure. 

The first thing I’d do is see whether it really turned itself off or just 
stopped talking. 

First, make sure it’s plugged in even if you think the battery is fine. 
Plugging it in will actually start it if it’s powered off in most cases. While 
you’re at it, and if it is plugged in, unplug it and replug it in. Note whether 
the little power noise happens.

This doesn’t guarantee anything I found with my last major problem, but try 
muting and unmuting it. If the phone has power, and if you can make it mute and 
unmute, you’ll get that little haptic on muting, this is another good indicator 
that you have power to it.

If you don’t have power to it, leave it plugged in for about 20 minutes and try 
all this again. 

So we’ve got power and it mutes and unmutes, but still not talking. Plug in 
some headphones. Or if you have it paired to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, 
activate that. If that gets sound, but the speaker does not, we can go from 
there. 

If you know you have power, you can try turninging voiceover on and off if 
you’ve set that up on triple click home.

If you still can’t get its attention, we’ll probably have to talk in prep for 
you to call Apple.

I’ve always been able ultimately to recover my phone, there are a few things 
that typically happen. But the very most recent time it was a total system fail 
and Apple had to replace it. Even that was a challenge, I had to use Rick’s 
phone to get into mine to turn off Find My Iphone for them. If we get to that 
miserable place, I can do that for you as well because it’s something they will 
not do. But we’re not to that yet. 

Let me know if none of this gets it, I’m home all day if you need to call.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bonnie Blose
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble With IPhone

 

I was just listening to notifications when my phhone either locked or turned 
itself off. Is there anything I can do that might bring it back? I have an 
IPhone 7. Thanks. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

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RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

[Deb Cook Lewis]

There’s a button for current location. You only need to select a square if you 
enter another location. And yes, it will change if you go to another part of 
your home unless you live on a postage stamp.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Im totally blind. How does a person who is totally blind select where they are 
on the map??? GPS on the device finds the person & the person selects on the 
map what is the closest to them. With this info the 3 words are displayed. My 
14y/o described the app like above. 

 

Couldnt convince her to leave her swing perch, to see if the 3 words would 
change if she were to go inside.

 

Donna 

 

This makes no sense to me, if as they said Mongolia is adopting this system for 
postal codes then how can this work if the words are changing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Merv 
Keck
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

I was curious about that myself. My three words changed at least five times 
even though I never moved an inch. I wouldn’t know which three words to give 
and how they would find me if the words kept changing.

Merv

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 9:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

That’s what I found out too.  Last night the 3 words were trendy, melt, and 
rent and tonight they were closer, dart and like.

 

I’d love to know how the police would know exactly where you are if the words 
keep changing.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

By the way, the three words for any particular address are not perminent. They 
change quite frequently. For this reason, before you give a three words address 
to any one, one has to check the three words at the time they need to determine 
their exact location. For example, if the three words address to your backyard 
now is cat.dog.bird, after half an hour the words could become, car.shop.mouse. 
This is what I noticed, so please correct me if you have a different experience.

 

Regards

 

Cris

 

 

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On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I also installed it and found out what 3 words are for my house.  I will see if 
my police department has it and uses it.

 

I didn’t notice the duplicate English USA but if it was there, I just selected 
the first one I came to.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Hi Robin,

 

I installed it and it seems to be accessible to some degree, but there are 
buttons that are not described and I'm not sure what they do.  Also when 
choosing your language English United States is there twice and it's not clear 
which one you're supposed to select.  This is not the only language that has 
double choices.  No, I haven't used it, per say, I'll try it if I get lost 
between my man-cave and the bedroom!  LOL  LOL  

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that 
somebody screwed up.

- Original Message - 

From: Robin Frost   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:47 PM

Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Have you used it? Is it accessible? I’ll have a look now for fun.

Robin

 

From: Mike B. 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:18 PM

To: VIPhone 

Subject: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Howdy y'all,

 

I came across this and thought it was worth sharing.  This app is in the App 
Store.

 

From: Allan 

 

What3words: The app that can save your life

 

By Duncan Leatherdale 
BBC News

 

Firefighter at fire with what3words grid showing location nameImage copyright 
What3words 
Image caption 
What3words divides the world into 57 trillion squares, each with a unique 
three-word address 

 

Police have urged everyone to 

RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

[Deb Cook Lewis]

This an also send lat and lon information which as you point out is important 
in some cases.

I to live in an area with minimal cell coverage and I think that’s one of its 
most significant drawbacks.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

You may not always be at an address, e.g. what if you are in the middle of a 
large urban park which is hundreds or thousands of acres in size or maybe not 
even in an urban park, but out and about on a wilderness hike etc. Of course 
this system totally relies on you having cell phone coverage which where I live 
is not at all a given, in this case something like a Garmin Inreach is still 
the only and best option to get out an emergency signal if something serious 
happens and you need search and rescue to come get you. Inreach is satellite 
based and works anywhere and it sends your long/lat coordinates which still 
works just as good.

They say What3Words has split the world into I think it was 3 by 3 meter 
squares which is approx.. 10 by 10 feet, so even an average 6,000 square foot 
residential property will have 60 What3Word addresses and a 1,000 square foot 
house or apartment will have 10, your bedroom could have 2 depending on its 
size..

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

 It is indeed a very interesting concept. However, I am not 100% certain that I 
follow its logic. Or perhaps what I mean to say is “follow the point “. Why 
complicate things by having to remember words or use words to find an address 
when using an address is the best way for someone to find  you in most cases? 
The address system currently being used has been tried and true for what seems 
like forever. Am I also missing something?

 

 

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 9:52 AM mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I must be missing something here.  What is the problem with giving first 
responders your address?  No problem with them only getting close.  This is an 
interesting concept but until I hear that 9 1 1 is using it, I'll not risk 
giving them the 3 words & have the dispatcher not know what I am talking about. 
 Also, isn't it true that 9 1 1 dispatch can get your location if you are using 
a cell phone with location on?

Sherry  Wells

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RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have been playing with this and I don’t think the words change.

GPS on the phone is not entirely accurate. I can tell this better on my Android 
phone than on my Iphone. But basically, my location is varying slightly even 
when I don’t move because of the changing accuracy of GPS. I think if I go to 
an outside location it will be more consistent. But what I find is that old 
words still get me here. So although my words appear to change, the original 
words still yield close to my location. Just like with GPS sometimes it puts me 
next door and sometimes here. So I think any words it gives you will get 
someone close. And I think if you’re outdoors it will be closer. So I’m going 
to declare my words the ones in front of my house even if in my room they’re 
different and also more changing.

On the web site they talk about putting your words on your web site or on a 
sign. And if this is the address system for some place, then they numbers do in 
fact have to be static. Everything I reads indicate they are static, so I think 
it’s the accuracy of GPS.

It’s hard for us because when you put your address in, they still want you to 
pick a square which we can’t do. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

So what happens if you give a first responder those three words, and by the 
time the person looks them up, the words change?

 

On 8/16/2019 8:04 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

By the way, the three words for any particular address are not perminent. They 
change quite frequently. For this reason, before you give a three words address 
to any one, one has to check the three words at the time they need to determine 
their exact location. For example, if the three words address to your backyard 
now is cat.dog.bird, after half an hour the words could become, car.shop.mouse. 
This is what I noticed, so please correct me if you have a different experience.

 

Regards

 

Cris

 

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RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Well it also says that it’s linked with all of the map apps but I have failed 
to get anything but puzzlement when I ask Google or Apple maps. I’m late to 
this party so maybe I’ve missed how to do that, but according to their web site 
I just have to ask for it.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

This makes no sense to me, if as they said Mongolia is adopting this system for 
postal codes then how can this work if the words are changing.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Merv 
Keck
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

I was curious about that myself. My three words changed at least five times 
even though I never moved an inch. I wouldn’t know which three words to give 
and how they would find me if the words kept changing.

Merv

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 9:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

That’s what I found out too.  Last night the 3 words were trendy, melt, and 
rent and tonight they were closer, dart and like.

 

I’d love to know how the police would know exactly where you are if the words 
keep changing.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

By the way, the three words for any particular address are not perminent. They 
change quite frequently. For this reason, before you give a three words address 
to any one, one has to check the three words at the time they need to determine 
their exact location. For example, if the three words address to your backyard 
now is cat.dog.bird, after half an hour the words could become, car.shop.mouse. 
This is what I noticed, so please correct me if you have a different experience.

 

Regards

 

Cris

 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I also installed it and found out what 3 words are for my house.  I will see if 
my police department has it and uses it.

 

I didn’t notice the duplicate English USA but if it was there, I just selected 
the first one I came to.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Hi Robin,

 

I installed it and it seems to be accessible to some degree, but there are 
buttons that are not described and I'm not sure what they do.  Also when 
choosing your language English United States is there twice and it's not clear 
which one you're supposed to select.  This is not the only language that has 
double choices.  No, I haven't used it, per say, I'll try it if I get lost 
between my man-cave and the bedroom!  LOL  LOL  

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that 
somebody screwed up.

- Original Message - 

From: Robin Frost   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:47 PM

Subject: Re: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Have you used it? Is it accessible? I’ll have a look now for fun.

Robin

 

From: Mike B. 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:18 PM

To: VIPhone 

Subject: What 3words, The app that can save your life

 

Howdy y'all,

 

I came across this and thought it was worth sharing.  This app is in the App 
Store.

 

From: Allan 

 

What3words: The app that can save your life

 

By Duncan Leatherdale 
BBC News

 

Firefighter at fire with what3words grid showing location nameImage copyright 
What3words 
Image caption 
What3words divides the world into 57 trillion squares, each with a unique 
three-word address 

 

Police have urged everyone to download a smartphone app they say has already 
saved several lives. What is it and how does it work?

 

Kicked. Converged. Soccer.

 

These three randomly chosen words saved Jess Tinsley and her friends after they 
got lost in a forest on a dark, wet night.

 

They had planned a five-mile circular stroll through the 4,900 

RE: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah this is tough, LOL. With the sale, they’re $200 difference.

So when you say you can sync it, does it give you any data that an Apple Watch 
wouldn’t already pick up? Obviously my watch is going to record it as activity. 
But my sister thought it might be more strength training than aerobic. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
I’m a geek and love things that connect together.

Aleeha 





On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would you 
be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always subjective, 
but I’m really struggling with this. 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

Hi, 

I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.

Aleeha Dudley 






On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> 
deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive one 
if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I can’t 
tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using the 
app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just tracking my 
own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

Deb

 

 

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RE: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would you 
be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always subjective, 
but I’m really struggling with this. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

Hi, 

I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.

Aleeha Dudley 





On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive one 
if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I can’t 
tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using the 
app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just tracking my 
own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

Deb

 

 

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Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Amazon's deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk
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data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive
one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I
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If I don't determine that it is somewhat accessible, I'll probably get the
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tracking my own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

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Re: Question about magnetic cables

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I believe, Denise, you bought the micro USB magnetic cables we
discussed on another list. The Iphone takes a lightning cable so no,
it absolutely won't work. And it wouldn't be a good idea because that
cable already fits tightly. Where some peple like them is with the
micro USB ports that sometimes are pretty fragile.

On 6/27/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Which magnetic cables would that be?
> The only Apple device I’ve heard of using Magnetic charging cables is the
> Mac computers.
>
> Magnets should be kept away from phones.  Though, I doubt the magnets are
> that strong.
>
>
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Re: Food scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah I don't think I meant to post at all so I must have hit send when
I wasn't meaning to do that. Sorry for the clutter for sure.
I do have one question though about the Drop scale so I must have been
thinking about posting and decided not to then. I'm assuming about
your comment on the battery that it was user replaceable? I've never
seen even the small lithium batteries only last a year so I found that
interesting. It does sound like a very workable option though. I
fundamentally like the My Weigh scale but I have quite a time
understanding it. I normally am pretty good with this stuff, but the
other day she said 9 ounces and I would swear she said one, but I know
my food weighed closer to 9. That's pretty bad though.

On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> If you posted something, I couldn't find it. Did you bottom post by any
> chance?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb
> Cook Lewis
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Food scale
>
> On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> Indeed. This is the model I have. To be clear, my preference is to
>> have a simple talking scale that doesn’t need to be connected to any
>> device to work, but alas, I’m apparently  kryptonite to My Weigh talking
>> scales.
>>
>> The Drop Kitchen scale measures to the tenth of the gram and from what
>> I can tell, is pretty accurate. There is a button the the scale itself
>> where you can zero out the weight and when in the scale screen, if you
>> are on the actual element that gives the weight, VO will speak it in
>> real time as you add or subtract whatever it is you’re measuring.
>> Focus may end up at the top of the screen however if you get an alert
>> or if you take a heavier item like a bowl or plate off the scale. It
>> isn’t always, but it does happen every now and then. I recently
>> changed out the battery after a year of usage. It cost me less than
>> $5. The scale can weigh up to 6 KG. More than enough for kitchen
>> purposes.
>>
>> For powdery things like flour or whatever or if I know I’m going to
>> get my hands dirty and even though my phone’s an XR so in theory it
>> should be able to handle a little moisture or dust, I’ll still maybe
>> slip the phone into a little zip lock or sandwich bag to avoid getting it
>> gunked up or dirty.
>>
>> I hadn’t heard of the smart chef scale, but it also sounds like an
>> interesting option.
>>
>> The Drop Kitchen scale also promotes itself as a cooking tool as I
>> think you can use it with a separate recipe function, but honestly,
>> I’ve never even bothered with that part of it since it was the scale
>> aspect I was looking for.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Food scale
>>
>>
>>
>> There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and
>> seems to like it.
>>
>> I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how
>> well it would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of
>> automatic read outs.
>>
>> I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight
>> instead of adding them by cup or table spoon, tea spoon etc. If I need
>> 500 grams of flour I usually use a cup measurement to put it in the
>> bowl which is on the scale, I have one of the MyWeigh talking scales.
>> After I put on a bunch I wait for a couple of seconds and the scale
>> tells me the weight, then I can add a bit more etc. I would have to
>> know for sure that with something like the Drop Kitchen scale or any
>> other which may exist I could have the app open and Voiceover focused
>> on the right area and I would get virtually instant and automatic read
>> outs, I would not want to have to touch the phone.
>>
>> I think Cristobal and others said that the MyWeigh talking scales keep
>> breaking on them, I had my first one for at least 15 and maybe as long
>> as 20 years, it then didn’t work any more and I contacted MyWeigh and
>> they send me a new one for just a relatively small shipping fee of I
>> think $20 or $25 Canadian. I definitely call this good customer
>> service and doubt that Drop provides such a long warranty (I didn’t
>> even have my original receipt or record of purchase any more).
>>
>> I have now had that new model for about 2 years and it’s been working
>> flawlessly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>&

Re: Food scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> Indeed. This is the model I have. To be clear, my preference is to have a
> simple talking scale that doesn’t need to be connected to any device to
> work, but alas, I’m apparently  kryptonite to My Weigh talking scales.
>
> The Drop Kitchen scale measures to the tenth of the gram and from what I can
> tell, is pretty accurate. There is a button the the scale itself where you
> can zero out the weight and when in the scale screen, if you are on the
> actual element that gives the weight, VO will speak it in real time as you
> add or subtract whatever it is you’re measuring. Focus may end up at the top
> of the screen however if you get an alert or if you take a heavier item like
> a bowl or plate off the scale. It isn’t always, but it does happen every now
> and then. I recently changed out the battery after a year of usage. It cost
> me less than $5. The scale can weigh up to 6 KG. More than enough for
> kitchen purposes.
>
> For powdery things like flour or whatever or if I know I’m going to get my
> hands dirty and even though my phone’s an XR so in theory it should be able
> to handle a little moisture or dust, I’ll still maybe slip the phone into a
> little zip lock or sandwich bag to avoid getting it gunked up or dirty.
>
> I hadn’t heard of the smart chef scale, but it also sounds like an
> interesting option.
>
> The Drop Kitchen scale also promotes itself as a cooking tool as I think you
> can use it with a separate recipe function, but honestly, I’ve never even
> bothered with that part of it since it was the scale aspect I was looking
> for.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Food scale
>
>
>
> There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and seems to
> like it.
>
> I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how well it
> would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of automatic read
> outs.
>
> I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight instead of
> adding them by cup or table spoon, tea spoon etc. If I need 500 grams of
> flour I usually use a cup measurement to put it in the bowl which is on the
> scale, I have one of the MyWeigh talking scales. After I put on a bunch I
> wait for a couple of seconds and the scale tells me the weight, then I can
> add a bit more etc. I would have to know for sure that with something like
> the Drop Kitchen scale or any other which may exist I could have the app
> open and Voiceover focused on the right area and I would get virtually
> instant and automatic read outs, I would not want to have to touch the
> phone.
>
> I think Cristobal and others said that the MyWeigh talking scales keep
> breaking on them, I had my first one for at least 15 and maybe as long as 20
> years, it then didn’t work any more and I contacted MyWeigh and they send me
> a new one for just a relatively small shipping fee of I think $20 or $25
> Canadian. I definitely call this good customer service and doubt that Drop
> provides such a long warranty (I didn’t even have my original receipt or
> record of purchase any more).
>
> I have now had that new model for about 2 years and it’s been working
> flawlessly.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> probably about
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> pdlloga...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: 'Vi Phone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>
> Subject: Food scale
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a food scale that will connect to the IPhone and give
> readings on the phone?  Just wondering as I need to replace a scale, and was
> thinking if available I’d go the smart route.
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Re: Food scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I see this Smart Chef one on Amazon for $29. It has terrible reviews
but if weighing the food itself is accessible, that would be good
enough for me. I'm very tempted especially at that price.



On 6/21/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> There is one called the Smart Chef, Smart Food scale that I reviewed on
> Applevis.com.
> It has lots of Siri shortcuts so you can use it mostly hands free for
> weighing items.
> It is quite responsive, but only the Talking Scale function is really
> accessible right now.
> I have worked with them on the accessibility, as has others. They are very
> responsive to feedback. I cannot remember how many updates have been done
> since I first inquired about this scale a few months ago; but it is a lot.
> The app is called:
> Smart Chef Smart Food Scale by ReFleX Wireless Inc.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/smart-chef-smart-food-scale/id995829381
> I believe it costs around $50. It is the Pocket model, which is about 3.5 or
> 4 inches square and fairly thin.
> HTH,
> Richard
> GU
>
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> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and seems to
> like it.
> I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how well it
> would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of automatic read
> outs.
> I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight instead of
> adding them by cup or table spoon, tea spoon etc. If I need 500 grams of
> flour I usually use a cup measurement to put it in the bowl which is on the
> scale, I have one of the MyWeigh talking scales. After I put on a bunch I
> wait for a couple of seconds and the scale tells me the weight, then I can
> add a bit more etc. I would have to know for sure that with something like
> the Drop Kitchen scale or any other which may exist I could have the app
> open and Voiceover focused on the right area and I would get virtually
> instant and automatic read outs, I would not want to have to touch the
> phone.
> I think Cristobal and others said that the MyWeigh talking scales keep
> breaking on them, I had my first one for at least 15 and maybe as long as 20
> years, it then didn’t work any more and I contacted MyWeigh and they send me
> a new one for just a relatively small shipping fee of I think $20 or $25
> Canadian. I definitely call this good customer service and doubt that Drop
> provides such a long warranty (I didn’t even have my original receipt or
> record of purchase any more).
> I have now had that new model for about 2 years and it’s been working
> flawlessly.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> probably about
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> pdlloga...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: 'Vi Phone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Food scale
>
> Does anyone know of a food scale that will connect to the IPhone and give
> readings on the phone?  Just wondering as I need to replace a scale, and was
> thinking if available I’d go the smart route.
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Re: Chime app not working?

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The Blacktree Chime app does not work for me either. I've noted this
before and have given it up, but nothing makes it work. I'm genuinely
curious why it does work for some and not for others, but I'm not one
of the ones on any device I have. The only time app that works
consistently for me is westminster Chimes.

On 6/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have the notifications on lock screen selected?
> Is it set to only chime on the hour?
>
> Richard
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 10:43 PM,
> "li...@damorris.com"
> mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
> The app by blacktree is the one I’m using that doesn’t work.
> Any ideas?
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 14 June 2019 14:50
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Chime app not working?
>
>
> this Chime app works fine for me:
> Chime by Blacktree
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/chime/id414830146
>
>
> richard
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Janet Wright
> mailto:jan...@wrighthere.net>> wrote:
> Not sure if its in the ap storeIt still working for me
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Chime app not working?
>
> Is that app still in the app store?
> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with
> your contact information and I will happily add you.
> mreyes5...@gmail.com
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Adam Morris
> mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Have installed the app, set it to announce from 8 AM to 10 PM.
>
> Have it set to the ma.le voice.
>
> Nothing happens at the top of the hour.
>
> notifications are on in settings.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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