RE: looking for an accessible listing for sirius xm channels.

[Jim Fettgather]

This is amazing, this is fantastic!
Thanks for the tip regarding the favorites!

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Chaffin
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for an accessible listing for sirius xm channels.

Hi Jim,

As far as accessing the favorites in StarPlayrx, it is quite simple.

After starting the app, just swipe to All Stars and double tap. This is located 
right before All Channels.
As you swipe on the next screen, you will first come to a few defaulted 
channels that are listed, but after that, you will have your list of channels 
that you have favorited within the app. Just double tap to start playing the 
favorite channel that you want.

Hope this has been helpful.

Chris


> On May 7, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
> StarPlayrX  found in the app store, 
> Is an app that lists all Sirius XM channels accessibly.
> The only thing it seems that people have not collectively been able to figure 
> out is how to access the Favorites.
> Everything else works great!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Judd
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:51 PM
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> Subject: looking for an accessible listing for sirius xm channels.
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I am looking for an accessible listing of the sirius xm channel guide 
> that includes all of the new extra channels they keep adding.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Chris
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RE: looking for an accessible listing for sirius xm channels.

[Jim Fettgather]

StarPlayrX  found in the app store, 
Is an app that lists all Sirius XM channels accessibly.
The only thing it seems that people have not collectively been able to figure 
out is how to access the Favorites.
Everything else works great!

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Judd
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:51 PM
To: IPhone list 
Subject: looking for an accessible listing for sirius xm channels.

Hey all,

I am looking for an accessible listing of the sirius xm channel guide 
that includes all of the new extra channels they keep adding.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris

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IOS 14.5, Apple Maps and Accessing City Guides

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.

I have found that I can choose a City Guide from Apple Maps, but that when
the city guide is loaded, the 3 finger swipe up  or down does nothing, but
neither does the scroll bar, it will hot advance, even when you scroll it to
what should be continuing parts of a specific city guide, nothing happens
with Voiceover.

I do realize that not too many people may wish to access these guides, but I
sure do love reading about specific geographical locations,  so I am
wondering if anyone has worked with these city guides in Apple Maps, IOS
14.5.

Thanks.

 

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RE: Doordash App

[Jim Fettgather]

I did leave a review in the app store pointing out these horrible focus 
inconsistencies.

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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Doordash App

I've tweeted them, b/c DD help usually responds on Twitter to issues. Haven't 
received a response.

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Janusauskas
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 3:49 PM
To: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Doordash App


Sounds like several have observed the regression in accessibility. Has anyone 
actually reported the issues to DoorDash to make them aware?


> On Apr 25, 2021, at 2:41 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again everyone,
> 
> 
> This is for you all that might use the Doordash App.
> 
> 
> Have you all noticed that for a while now, the App doesn't seem as accessible?
> 
> Not that it was ever 100 percent accessible. But I feel it used to be much 
> better. I can't seem to scroll through the list of restaurants anymore. It 
> seems as though the App keeps refreshing or something. It is very annoying! 
> We use this App sometimes several times a month. So it makes it a problem 
> when I struggle to use it.
> 
> 
> I have also noticed that I struggle to add items to the cart, when I am 
> trying to work with previous orders we have placed.
> 
> However, I have gotten this to work a few times.
> 
> 
> What has been your experiences with the App lately?
> 
> And are there possible work arounds I am not aware of.
> 
> I do use the search feature, when I know exactly what restaurant we want to 
> order from.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Does this Cable for the iPhone Exist?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

At one time, I had a patch chord that would connect to the iPhone through a
3.5 inch adapter and then to the lightning plug through an adapter to the
output of the iPhone..

The other end of this chord was a USB connector.

This chord would somehow magically allow the iPhone to be seen as an
alternative input device, thereby allowing me to record directly from the
iPhone onto the PC using any recording program.

I have looked and looked all over Amazon, but cannot find this chord again.

As I say, it was wonderful to be able to record the audio output from the
iPhone right on to the PC.

Just curious if anyone knows about this type of chord, or what it might be
called, or does it still exist?

Any assistance appreciated!  

Thanks.

 

 

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RE: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

[Jim Fettgather]

I have a 12 Pro Max, and would not look back.
I am so delightfully happy that I got it, for the camera, the stereo sound 
through the fairly large speakers, the screen real estate for Braille Screen 
input,  it is just an incredible phone. No regrets. 

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Belville
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 12:58 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

Hi, all.


My poor iPhone SE is on it's last legs, bad battery, etc.  This is the 
original SE purchased in the spring of 2017.  I'm looking at either the 
iPhone 12 Pro or the 12 Pro Max.


I like the size of the SE 2020, but I need a good battery, and it seems 
like the SE 2020 and the iPhone 12 mini fall a bit short.


What are people's experiences with the iPhone 12 Pro Max?  I know 
there's no home button, but how easy is it to unlock the screen as a 
totally blind person?  Was it difficult getting used to the larger screen?


TIA for the info.


Lisa


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Recording Videos, IOS 14.2, X S Max

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.

All of a sudden, when I record a video,  the volume  is really really low,
and after about 20 seconds, it begins to fade up to the normal volume.

What the heck?  I wonder what could be causing this, I have been through all
of the Camera options in settings, and it is recording in stereo,  but I
cannot find any other settings that may pertain to volume levels..

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

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RE: CBS All Access

[Jim Fettgather]

I do not know why this is, but in order to get audio description for CBS All 
Access, I must launch the All Access app  itself, it just won't come through 
Apple TV or the phone.
And I have AD turned on everywhere I know to look.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: CBS All Access

Hi John,
I am not yet subscribed to CBS All Access, although I plan to do that. Since 
this is all through Apple TV and their app, I wonder if a call to Apple 
accessibility might not be in order. It was my understanding that anything 
offered by Apple was done through Apple servers. Therefore, this might be an 
Apple issue, although I don’t know why it would work on your phone and not on 
your Apple TV. But Apple are the experts so give them a shout.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 3:55 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Greetings, wondering if anybody else has experienced problems like this.
> 
> I have two Apple TV HD ‘s. Both are on current software. Also iPad and iPhone.
> 
> 
> If I play Star Trek discovery on my iPhone I get audio description. If I play 
> it on either of the Apple TVs no audio description for Star Trek discovery. 
> Though I do have audio description on some other shows.
> 
> All the settings are correct I have done every kind of troubleshooting I can 
> think of I’ve been in contact with CBS all excess help. They have been no 
> help. They just email me every once in a while asking if I’m still having the 
> problem.
> 
> Has anybody else experienced anything like this with either Star Trek 
> discovery or another show?
> 
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RE: Using dictation with iMessages and e-mail?

[Jim Fettgather]

Here is a thought.

If you wish to create a new paragraph, you should say New Line.

I promise.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:32 PM
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You may want to check on this. 

Verify if the settings under accessibility then spoken content then 
pronunciation. In there check to see if there’s any word that is a substitution 
for  The word paragraph 

for example, if I created in pronunciation a  word  Let’s say “hello”  and 
substitute that word to dodo , voiceover is going to read the word paragraph 
any time it sees the word “hello” Just a thought.

Best regards,
Sree B. roy


703-973-7733 Sent from my iPhone





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I have no idea then. the dictation feature clearly thinks it hears paragraph  
then. Perhaps a call to Apple Accessibility?


Richard

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On Dec 9, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> > wrote:

 

The word paragraph is in the text but he never spoke the word.  We don’t know 
where or why dictation is getting the word paragraph from when it is not said.

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 9 Dec 2020, at 20:27, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

What is the punctuation setting on the phone that is reporting paragraph when 
there isn't the word?

 

If they are using line breaks, as in "new line" if punctuation is on all, maybe 
it is determining that is a paragraph?

That is a pure guess on my part.

Otherwise, I'd say stop feeding the gremlins, grin.

 

 

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Joseph Hudson

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:23 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Using dictation with iMessages and e-mail?

 

Hi Malcolm, no I have not experienced this. However, most of my emails I sent 
with my Mac. I do do a lot of texting with my iPhone now. But still I don't 
have that problem.

 

On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> > wrote:

 

When I receive e-mails or iMessages from my friend where he has used dictation 
often the word paragraph is inserted into the body of the message without his 
having said the word.  Has anyone experienced this and if so have you managed 
to resolve it?

 

I’m talking about dictation and not items sent with Siri.

 

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RE: Apple TV and apps

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I do not believe that you can use Twitter or email through your Apple 
TV, but one thing that you can do, which I have done quite often is to  use 
Screen Mirroring in Control Center to Stream Facebook Live, Youtube, and any 
other apps that produce audio or video.
If you have the correct hardware, you can literally connect your phone via the 
lightning port to HDMI output to your entertainment system, this hardware is 
sometimes called an iPhone camera kit.
I have streamed to the apple tv both ways, and some apps even support airplay, 
which is also another third method for getting sound or video from your phone 
to your home theater system to Apple TV.

  

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Subject: Re: Apple TV and apps

Sorry priscilla your message is blank

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Subject: Re: Apple TV and apps



> On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
> it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
> things like Facebook or Twitter?
> I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
> coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
> entertainment system.
> Tom
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Re: Apple TV and direct touch

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, It seems like direct touch has an effect on whether 3 different
areas are accessible or work properly.
What they are referring to as Top Shelf, then another area called
Watch Now, and finally, the typical rows and columns of the interface
containing all of your regular apps.
To add to the confusion, some third party apps, when launched, will
result in Voiceover saying, Direct Touch Area.
It sounds as if in cases such as these, there is no other choice than
to use Direct Touch.
It seems quite counter intuitive and no documentation that I have located.
Thanks.

On 10/27/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe that if you do a two finger triple tap on the touchpad of the
> Apple TV remote but it will toggle it back to the other rotor options. God
> only knows why Apple decided to do this, I see no practical use for taking
> direct touch out of the rotor and adding this extra step to the process.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 27, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>
>> I have an Apple TV HD with the latest version of tvOS. Ever since I
>> updated to the latest version, I seem to be in a permanent direct touch
>> state. The only options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read
>> after screen delay, and sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can
>> never really seem to get to work. As a result I have about nine apps that
>> I can’t close. Any way to turn the direct touch capabilities off so I can
>> actually navigate in a ot zooming speed around the screen?
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Re: A Question for iOS / iPad OS CBS All Access Subscribers

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello Mark, Fantasy Island is definitely not listed on CBS All Access
on any of my devices.
I went to the master list of Audio Described programs on the ACB Audio
description page, which contains 7200 programs.
Here are the only two entries pertaining to Fantasy Island.
• Blumhouse's Fantasy Island
is on
DVD,
PRIME-VIDEO,
SPECTRUM-ACCESS
• Blumhouse's Fantasy Island: Unrated Edition
is on
ITUNES,
SPECTRUM-ACCESS

Sorry I could not be of more assistance.


On 10/12/20, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am prepared to sign up for a CBS All Access streaming subscription for
> use
> with my Apple devices.  However, I seem to be encountering a strange
> inconsistency that I do not understand.
>
> I want to sign up for the service because I was lead to believe that the
> 1970s television series, Fantasy Island, is on offer.
>
> However, when I search for the show on one device, I see that it is, in
> fact, offered, however, when I search on another device, the show is
> nowhere
> to be found.
>
> So, to those of you who are subscribed to CBS All Access:
>
> 1.
> Is the show available for steaming on any of your Apple devices?
>
> 2.
> Is there a customer service telephone number one can call in order to
> confirm what shows are currently available on CBS All Access?  Again, I
> have
> downloaded the app on several devices but ...
>
> 3.
> Just so you know:  QUOTE:  Fantasy Island is an American fantasy drama
> television series created by Gene Levitt. It aired on the ABC television
> network from 1977 to 1984. The series starred Ricardo Montalbán as the
> mysterious Mr. Roarke.  END QUOTE.
>
> You see, I do not want to sign up for the service is the series is not, in
> fact, available for streaming.
>
> 4.
> One more thing, if the show is not available on CBS All Access, does anyone
> know from which, if any, streaming service it may be streamed?  I have
> searched and searched and, for whatever reason, it is nowhere to be found
> except for the references to CBS All Access as it was initially distributed
> by Columbia broadcasting.
>
> Mark
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RE: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

[Jim Fettgather]

AD is available, but your local channels must carry the audio description, 
since Youtube TV gets its feed directly from the channels in your specific 
market or city.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy 
Lowe
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other 
Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

> I have also been thinking about subscribing to youtube tv.  Do the channels 
> have audio description.  I would be accessing it with my iPhone SE 2020.


Thanks.  
Candy

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RE: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, yes, Google has a pretty simple process to set up a payment method for 
any and all Google services, so it is really easy to opt out of any of them, 
but you're correct that you need a credit card on file.
Thanks.

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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other 
Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

Okay, Jim,

I will keep this in mind.  

I'm presuming that one must have a credit card on file with Google in order to 
subscribe to YouTube TV, right?

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other 
Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

I really enjoy Youtube TV, and let me just say, it is very very easy to pause 
your subscription for 8 weeks, or subscribe or unsubscribe, even though you 
cannot use the Apple subscription service to perform these actions. The process 
just takes 2 or 3 minutes. 
Thanks
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other Live 
Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

Hello Everyone,

I am thinking about subscribing to YouTube TV for use on my Apple TV device.


Does anyone know if the app is VoiceOver accessible?  

I am going to assume that if the app is VoiceOver accessible on Apple TV, then 
it will most likely be accessible on iPad OS 14; I hope.

Believe it or not, I am currently in a situation where, because of the pandemic 
lock-down, I cannot get new cable TV service installed in my home from my 
preferred cable provider.  

So, because I would very much like to have a live local TV streaming service, I 
have been researching various TV streaming services and YouTube TV seems to 
come very highly recommended.  

The only thing about YouTube TV that I don't like is that one cannot sign up 
for a subscription through Apple.  It has been my experience that, while it may 
be easy to sign up for a monthly third-party subscription, it can be much more 
difficult to unsubscribe.

I prefer to subscribe to third-party services through Apple because I know that 
I can easily unsubscribe when ready, without any hassle.

So, if anyone knows of a local live TV streaming service that allows 
subscriptions through Apple please let me know as I would greatly appreciate 
any help on this.

Thank you,

Mark


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RE: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other Live Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

[Jim Fettgather]

I really enjoy Youtube TV, and let me just say, it is very very easy to pause 
your subscription for 8 weeks, or subscribe or unsubscribe, even though you 
cannot use the Apple subscription service to perform these actions. The process 
just takes 2 or 3 minutes. 
Thanks
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is YouTube TV VoiceOver Accessible on Apple TV? Are There Other Live 
Streaming TV Services You Would Recommend?

Hello Everyone,

I am thinking about subscribing to YouTube TV for use on my Apple TV device.


Does anyone know if the app is VoiceOver accessible?  

I am going to assume that if the app is VoiceOver accessible on Apple TV,
then it will most likely be accessible on iPad OS 14; I hope.

Believe it or not, I am currently in a situation where, because of the
pandemic lock-down, I cannot get new cable TV service installed in my home
from my preferred cable provider.  

So, because I would very much like to have a live local TV streaming
service, I have been researching various TV streaming services and YouTube
TV seems to come very highly recommended.  

The only thing about YouTube TV that I don't like is that one cannot sign up
for a subscription through Apple.  It has been my experience that, while it
may be easy to sign up for a monthly third-party subscription, it can be
much more difficult to unsubscribe.

I prefer to subscribe to third-party services through Apple because I know
that I can easily unsubscribe when ready, without any hassle.

So, if anyone knows of a local live TV streaming service that allows
subscriptions through Apple please let me know as I would greatly appreciate
any help on this.

Thank you,

Mark


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Starting a Movie from the Beginning in the IOS Disney app

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.

So, I have no trouble playing a movie, but cannot seem to find a way to
start the movie from the beginning.

There is a time scrubber, but every time I start swiping it, the movie
begins to play again after having been paused, and it would take 20 or 30
minutes to go 90 minutes backwards back to the beginning.  Any tips for
starting a movie from the beginning in the IOS Disney app?

Thanks. 

 

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RE: Does anyone else lose voice over after they listen to a voicemail?

[Jim Fettgather]

For whatever reason, if I use a wired headset, I do not lose Voiceover after 
hearing a Voicemail.
It is still a nasty bug though, and I have written to Apple Accessibility.
Thanks..

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does anyone else lose voice over after they listen to a voicemail?

Hello,
Yes I have seen this issue also. I would second Paul's suggestion on
reporting this to Apple accessibility and attempting to be as specific
as possible.

On 8/8/20, Kimberly  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Whenever I listen to a voicemail, voice-over cuts out for several seconds or
> until I press the home button to exit the phone app altogether. Has anyone
> else seen this behavior?
>
> I’m running 13.6 on a 2nd gen SE.
>
> Thanks
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RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

[Jim Fettgather]

Nothing compares to the actual audio produced by the Homepod, nothing.

Except maybe for the Amazon Studio Speaker.

The Amazon devices certainly have a few more skills, no doubt about it, but 
Homepod sounds fantastic, far better than most Amazon devices.

Just an opinion.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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hi, Alan, I totally agree with you. The echo has a tremendous sound. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Janet,

 

I thought Apple's digital assistant is Siri. I would strongly recommend you 
stick with the Amazon Echo rather than investing in a Home Pod running Siri. 
All of these devices and systems have issues from time to time but my opinion 
is that the Amazon Echo is the best of the lot.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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please would someone tell me whether apple’s equivalent of the echo is any good 
as they are having trouble with the echo and wonder whether it is worth 
changing.  Janet

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RE: Audio Routing Location

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, so when you have audio destination selected in the rotor, it only 
appears when you are playing audio or video, when there is an alternative 
destination available.

When you select audio destination, you can flick up or down to select the 
destinations.

This is my understanding, I hope it makes sense.

Thanks. 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Audio Routing Location

 

Hi all,

 

Would someone please give me a hard push in the direction of the audio routing 
settings in iOS13.4.1?  I've been all over the settings and either just totally 
brainfarting or just missing it.  For clarification it's audio routing and not 
the switch to speaker phone setting when the phone moves away from the ear.  
Thank much.


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RE: accessible apps list for android

[Jim Fettgather]

Now really, I despise Android just as much as the next guy or gal, but there is 
a list for accessible Android apps,

www.inclusiveandroid.com 

It is not kept up to date very well, but it is there, just to be fair..

 

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Long
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:13 PM
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There isn’t one.

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:16 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: accessible apps list for android

 

Hi,

 

I know this isn't about apple stuff but I can't seem to find a list like the 
applevis site but for android apps.

 

does anyone know of such a thing?

 

Thanks.

 

  

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Audio Destination in the Rotor

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.

I have made certain that audio destination is selected in the Voiceover
rotor, 13.4.1.  .

However, it never shows up.

Not for any situation under any scenario.

So, even though I consider myself to be a pretty decent and knowledgeable
Voiceover user, I am stumped, and could use some hints.

Thanks a lot 

 

Have a great day!

 

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RE: using the spectrum app on apple tv

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi Larry,

I love using the Spectrum app on the iPad or iPhone, it is wonderfully 
accessible.

I still have the third generation Apple TV, do not have a fourth generation 
Apple TV, but I found this article on spectrum.net that looked pretty good and 
may be helpful.

 

https://www.spectrum.net/support/tv/apple-tv-guide-narration/

Hope this helps

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:45 PM
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Subject: using the spectrum app on apple tv

 

I installed the spectrum app on the apple tv and it seems somewhat difficult to 
use. Does anyone know of any documentation for the app especially documentation 
for the voice over interface?

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RE: Apple Music VO navigation

[Jim Fettgather]

You are right about the headings, that does not work.

When I flick down, I hear Cap A, selected.

Cap B, selected.

But it goes through the entire alphabet.

I am disappointed and mystified, from your description, I cannot tell why it is 
stopping after just 3 letters.

I will try this on other devices, and see if I can replicate the same annoying 
behavior that you are describing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cedric 
Green
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music VO navigation

 

Jim,

 

Thanks for your prompt reply. That is the right side that I spoke about. I can 
only flick through about two or three letters before I get that sound saying 
that I cannot go down anymore. I also tried the headings rotor gesture which 
did not work either.

 

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 11:01 AM Jim Fettgather mailto:jimfettgat...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Cedric 

Regarding navigating the Apple Music Library:

At one time, you could navigate by heading through each letter of the alphabet, 
and it worked quite well.

There is apparently another way that,  for me, works just as well.

If you touch the very right edge of the screen, you should hear Voiceover say, 
Section Index, Adjustable.

You may then flick up and down through the letters of the alphabet, and 
hopefully, your rotor will automatically adjust to a setting called Adjust 
Value.

This took a bit of getting used to,  but I can navigate by Artist, Album, or 
Song using this method through the entire alphabet.

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Music VO navigation

 

Hello good people,

 

 

I signed up for a free month trial of Apple Music yesterday. I moved all of my 
playlists and favorite artists with an internet service. In the library tab in 
the bottom left corner. When I go to the right side of the page that has the 
letters from A to Z going down the page. I cannot use the flick gesture to go 
past the C. I can use the three finger swipe down to go from page to page but 
that of course does not tell me where I am on the page. I called Apple 
Voiceover desk and they escalated the issue. I wanted to know if anyone else is 
having this issue. I have had Spotify for years and wanted to give Apple Music 
and try Since I haven’t used it since the launch.

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RE: Apple Music VO navigation

[Jim Fettgather]

Cedric 

Regarding navigating the Apple Music Library:

At one time, you could navigate by heading through each letter of the alphabet, 
and it worked quite well.

There is apparently another way that,  for me, works just as well.

If you touch the very right edge of the screen, you should hear Voiceover say, 
Section Index, Adjustable.

You may then flick up and down through the letters of the alphabet, and 
hopefully, your rotor will automatically adjust to a setting called Adjust 
Value.

This took a bit of getting used to,  but I can navigate by Artist, Album, or 
Song using this method through the entire alphabet.

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cedric 
Green
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music VO navigation

 

Hello good people,

 

 

I signed up for a free month trial of Apple Music yesterday. I moved all of my 
playlists and favorite artists with an internet service. In the library tab in 
the bottom left corner. When I go to the right side of the page that has the 
letters from A to Z going down the page. I cannot use the flick gesture to go 
past the C. I can use the three finger swipe down to go from page to page but 
that of course does not tell me where I am on the page. I called Apple 
Voiceover desk and they escalated the issue. I wanted to know if anyone else is 
having this issue. I have had Spotify for years and wanted to give Apple Music 
and try Since I haven’t used it since the launch.

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RE: Sharing A Book

[Jim Fettgather]

This may not be good news, as most books from the iBooks store are copy 
protected with DRM when you purchase them, making it not possible to share them.
I don't think there is a way to do this, even though the book is offered for 
free right now.
Thanks.
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Hi,
Some years ago I decided to learn about Macs, so I went to the iBooks store and 
bought Tim Snipfen’s book entitled Mastering The Macintosh With VoiceOver.
The book is still on my iPhone and I refer to it from time to time. Anyway, I 
just started working with a new student and told her about the book. We went 
looking for it and it doesn’t seem to be available anymore. While doing a 
Google search for it, I found an article dated some time in 2016 which said 
that the book was being offered for free in the iBooks store. The article had a 
link to the book, but the link is of no use.
Since the book is “out of print” and was at one time being offered for free, 
would it be legal to give a copy of the book to my student or anyone else who 
might be interested? If so, how can I do that? I tried saving it to Voice Dream 
Reader and it didn’t show up in Voice Dream Reader’s library. I went into the 
Books app’s library and attempted to share it with my student via AirDrop. No 
go. 
Btw, neither Bookshare nor Bard have it. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Tom

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Re: Video editing apps

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I was slightly confused by this new slightly modified interface
for trimming videos, but it is essentially the same as before, the
first control that you encounter says Volume, Unmuted button. Then,
there is a plug-ins button, which appears to be dimmed.
Then, there is a media scrubber Frame, I do not know what that is for,
so I do not mess with it.
Then, you have a Start slider that you cam adjust with a one finger
swipe up or down.
Then, you can ignore the next key frame control, and flick over to the
end Slider, which is adjusted the same as the start time. There are a
few other controls, but you should finally encounter a Done button,
after which you can save as a new video, or replace the existing one.
I hope this explanation is helpful in some way.

On 1/16/20, Cory Jackson  wrote:
> Hi, are used to use the Photos app to trim videos quite often. However, it
> seems to be different in iOS 13. I cannot figure out how to do it.
>
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>
>> You can trim videos in the photos app, then combine in iMovie.
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Cory Jackson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am searching for an application that will allow me to edit videos on my
>> iPhone. The big thing that I need to be able to do is trim videos and
>> possibly merge two videos together.
>> any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards:
>> Cory Jackson
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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to shame

 

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so. 
 

Sent from my iPhone





  On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

   

  Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

   

  From: Mary Otten 

  Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM

  To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

   

  I wonder if this is accessible.

   

  Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

  Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter





  Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.


  At a Glance

  · Documents 7 
  Learn more 

  on App Store 

  It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

  Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who 
created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades 
allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all 
from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.



  Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

  Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating keyboard. iPad 
users can also now open more than one Documents window at a time, great for 
side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between them.

  Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from iCloud 
Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. Naturally, 
there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for seamlessly accessing 
content stored there, as well as opening files saved in existing Locations 
within Documents 7.

  PDF master
  From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are conveniently 
located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app settings just to clear 
data or change the location of file downloads. There’s even a new option to 
choose DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Ecosia, or Yahoo as the default search engine 
instead of Google. (Yay, privacy!)



  Whether it’s cloud storage, network-attached devices, or remote servers, 
Documents 7 makes file management a snap.

  While Documents has always been a very capable PDF reader, version 7.0 
introduces an option to turn the app into a full-fledged editor as well. After 
upgrading to an annual subscription ($50 per year), Documents 7 unlocks a full 
complement of professional tools, allowing users to edit, convert, and reduce 
the size of PDF files.

  If you already own PDF Expert 6, those editing features are available free of 
charge in Documents 7. Unfortunately, three advanced tools recently added to 
PDF Expert 7 do not get shared, so the only way to customize the Favorites 
toolbar or convert and compress PDF files is to pay for another annual 
subscription. That stinks, but Readdle offers a discounted upgrade to PDF 
Expert owners ($10 for the first year). For the moment, this is the only in-app 
purchase offered—everything else is absolutely free.



  Documents 7 can effortlessly transfer files between iOS devices and personal 
computers using any web browser.

  Bottom line
  For those underwhelmed by the built-in Files app, do yourself a favor and 
install 

SplitView with iPad Using a Keyboard

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.
Perhaps not too many people have tried this, but I am really hoping
that it might be possible to use keyboard commands using, for example,
the Magic keyboard paired with an iPad using iPad IOS to switch
between open web pages.
I managed to use gestures to get two web pages on screen in Split View
Mode, each taking half of the screen.  However, Command Tab, or
Control Tab does not seem to switch from one web page to the next.  In
many lists of keyboard commands I have referenced, this is supposed to
be a pretty common command, so I am very curious to know if anyone has
tried this and if there is a way to use the keyboard to switch among
open web pages in Split View.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

[Jim Fettgather]

Honest, you do not need TuneIn Radio for this to work, this is a new
feature of IOS 13.
Here is an article from Apple support:

https://support.apple.com › listen-to-broadcast-radio-ipha562cea63 › ios



On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>
> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>
> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or Homepod?
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for
>> the station.
>> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>> software as well.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS
>> 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in
>> radio etc.
>>
>> I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access
>> mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one
>> commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but
>> couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
>> access to all these new stations?
>>
>> At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
>> play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>>
>> Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
>> sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
>> compared to just asking directly.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

[Jim Fettgather]

Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to work in 
IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit finicky on 
complying with your request, depending on how you ask for the station.
It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest software 
as well.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

Hi all,


I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS
13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in
radio etc.

I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access
mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one
commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but
couldn't get to anything else.

My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
access to all these new stations?

At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.

Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
compared to just asking directly.

Thanks


Gary

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Re: Google Keep

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, yes, I have used Google Keep on the iPhone.
It works very well, it will create both text notes, and additionally, audio 
recordings.
And if you wish, your audio recording will be transcribed as you speak into 
readable text.
This feature is not always perfect, but if you are speaking clearly and 
annunciate properly, just as you would for most dictation, you can expect good 
results.
The interface is a bit confusing at first, but if you examine the screen 
carefully, you should have no trouble using it, as all of the elements are 
labeled properly.
Thanks.

From: Vicki W. 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:40 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Google Keep

Has anyone ever used the app Google Keep and how accessible is it?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: Why do you use the outlook for IOS ap?

[Jim Fettgather]

In the Outlook for IOS app, you may have conversation view disabled,
so that you have individual messages.
I find the Calendar to be highly superior, as when you tap the
Calendar Tab, you can just flick up with one finger, and all events
are read beautifully.
And, for even more fun, if you have an Office 365 account, you may now
enable Cortana, tap on Play my Emails, and Cortana will gladly read
you your messages, pausing long enough for you to skip to the next
message, or reply to the current one.
You cannot at this time send a new message using Cortana.
Thanks.

On 12/19/19, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
> Ah, thanks for the responses. I had no idea what a focused inbox was.
> Honestly, I, too, would prefer seeing all my e-mails, and generally
> enjoy the native app.
>
> My issue with the native app is that for my personal e-mail address,
> where I'm subscribed to a bunch of mailing lists, I'm ok with my
> messages being threaded, whereas with my work inbox, I actually prefer
> them not to be. As far as I know, this level of customization is not
> yet available.
>
> Shermeen
>
>
> On 12/19/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> We are all different, focused Inbox which is supposed to learn what is
>> important and not hides certain emails and replaces the Clutter feature
>> in
>> Outlook which I also never liked. I make a special point to ensure it is
>> turned off, but as I said, we are all different and I personally want to
>> see
>> all my emails in my Inbox and deal with them personally. In the same way
>> I
>> also don’t like unified Inboxes, I have 2 accounts set up on my iPhone,
>> personal and business, and I much prefer it to look at my two Inboxes
>> separately rather then to have all new emails show up in one Inbox.
>> As for threading, Chermeen, why not use this feature with the native Mail
>> app, it works well and as I said in my reply to Janet, I like Outlook on
>> my
>> PC, but never found it superior to the Mail app on iOS. But you should
>> try
>> for yourself and as I also said, it’s been a few years since I tried to
>> use
>> it so I’m sure it’s changed since then as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Cedric Green
>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 8:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why do you use the outlook for IOS ap?
>>
>> For me, its the focused inbox feature. Upon setting it up you may need to
>> train the app but anything to filter down my inbox is greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Shermeen Khan
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 11:28 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Why do you use the outlook for IOS ap?
>>
>> Hi there,
>> For those of you who use this app, can I ask why? what advantages to
>> you find that this app has over the native mail app? One of the
>> reasons I am thinking of getting it is so that I can have my messages
>> threaded in my native mail personal account, while viewing them as
>> un-threaded in outlook, but that on its own doesn't feel like a very
>> good reason.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm interested in your thoughts.
>>
>> Shermeen
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Question

[Jim Fettgather]

Two things to try to create a line break in messages:
Option Enter
or Command e
Hope one of these will work.

-Original Message- 
From: alex stoodley

Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Question

Using an Apple bluetooth keyboard and iPhone 8, how do I enter a line break
in composing a texxt message? Pressing the  key doesn't work.

Thanks for any help.



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Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.
Even after updating to 13.3, when I press the side button on the X S
Max, Voiceover will start chattering away, making it impossible to
speak a request to Siri.
After a bit, things seem to settle down, but I am just wondering if
anyone is pexperiencing this annoying behavior.
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Re: Apple Music Search results?

[Jim Fettgather]

I have tried a few searches with very popular artists, such as George
Strait for example, and get tons of results as always, I wonder if the
song/search term/artist for whom you are looking makes a difference?

On 12/9/19, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> You are quite right, but even after choosing this I appear to get less
> results than I used to.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 9 Dec 2019, at 11:58, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>
>> Hi! usually there is a see all button after the songs or albums heading.
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2019, at 5:57 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is it just me or does Apple Music return less results than it used to for
>>> any given search?
>>>
>>> Either they have removed albums or their search returns less results for
>>> some reason.
>>>
>>> I have repeated searches I did some time ago and far fewer results have
>>> been returned.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm whether their experiences match mine?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Malcolm
>>>
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Re: Siri in the HomePod

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, My HomePods are playing everything from Apple Music normally as they 
should, you may wish to unplug the HomePod and then re-connect a couple of 
minutes later to see if this clears up the problem.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri in the HomePod

I have an absolutely no luck today getting Siri to play anything on my 
HomePods. I can hand off from my phone, but if I ask her directly on the 
HomePod to play some album or other that I know is in Apple Music or in my 
iTunes library, she has said she can’t find it every single time. Seems to 
be functioning normally in all other respects on my other devices. Has 
anyone else experienced this problem?

Mary


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Re: iPhone 8 and triple click home

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Hello, I have noticed that the triple click home is not always set to
turn on Voiceover, so I have had to go to settings, then
accessibility, and way down at  the bottom,, in fact, the last option,
is Accessibility Shortcut.  This is the one you may want to activate
to ensure Voiceover is selected.
Thanks.

On 11/21/19, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I just got a new iPhone 8 last Friday and today I had the occasion to turn
> off Voiceover. I tried the triple click home and it just took me to the App
> Switcher. I played with the speed of the home click and tried several times
> with it being on the default or the slowest and it made no difference. My
> husband has a new iPhone 8 also and he isn't having a problem with this.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
>
>
> We are both running IOS 13.2.3
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Debbie
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Re: Keystroke to quickly cycle between apps?

[Jim Fettgather]

I had read somewhere that it might be Control Tab?
This is one to try for IOS 13.
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Keystroke to quickly cycle between apps?

I tried that with my Logitech K480 and it didn't work.  


Richard
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  On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Justin Harris  wrote:


   You can also cmd tab to cycle through just like on the mac. Works great.


  Enviado desde mi iPad


El nov. 17, 2019, a la(s) 9:24 a. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:


 I only know of using Control+Options+h twice quickly to simulate the app 
switcher. 





Richard
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  On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:


  Where in the settings, or what keystroke do you guys use with your 
bluetooth keyboards on the iPHone, to quickly cycle between running apps?

  Gera
  Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: Audio description missing missing on Apple TV+ series

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello Anisio
You appear to be absolutely correct on this, this is really uncool.
The first 2 episodes  of For All Mankind appear to have audio description, 
but the third episode, even has audio descriptions for other languages, but 
not English.
This program is difficult to follow without this feature, I hope I can 
figure out contact info for Apple TV plus, especially since this is a paid 
service.

Thanks for mentioning this.

-Original Message- 
From: Anisio Correia

Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio description missing missing on Apple TV+ series

Hello all,

I have been enjoying some of the new shows on Apple TV+. However, to my 
disappointment, audio description is not available on episode 3 of the 
series For All Mankind. Has anyone noticed this?


Anisio Correia

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Re: IOS 13.1.3 released.

[Jim Fettgather]

The mail appworks more consistently, and  this update has also
addressed the difficulty of locating the status bar as well.
Thanks.

On 10/16/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> The navigating messages thread is a Voiceover feature.
> I have only made a few calls, but so far Voiceover and sounds have not gone
> away, either. As far as whether you should update or not that isn't even a
> question you should consider, at this point you should always update to any
> new iOS 13 release. Yes, there is always a chance Apple could introduce a
> major new bug and you could wait a day or so because if they did you'd hear
> about it almost immediately on this list, but the chances of that are fairly
> small and there is a much bigger likelihood existing bugs are getting
> fixed.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.3 released.
>
> What about VoiceOver?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.3 released.
>
> I have an iPhone 8 plus for work that I just updated to 13.1.3 and I think;
> fingers crossed, the navigating message threads might be fixed.
> I only had one thread I could test quickly, so I hope others can test more.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
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>   On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:58 PM, Larry Smith  
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>   Ios 13.1.3 is now available for download. I don’t know what has been 
> fixed
> or not fixed with VoiceOver. I am currently running iOS 13.2 beta.
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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Jim Fettgather]

I also am experiencing the situation where after reading a message,
and pressing the Back button, focus will be random and sometimes jump
to the top of the list, very unsettling.
I have started using Outlook for IOS, which is free, and will connect
very nicely to most email services.
No focus problems in this app, very Voiceover friendly.

On 10/8/19, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
> Apple store to get my phone looked at.
> It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
> After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
> change and it seems to be working fine.
> Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
> never think would get fixed with just that change.
> cursor bouncing all over the place
> Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason
> Lots of intrusive messages such as
> Try this and try that
> Suggested this and that messages
> intrusive autofill when typing
> "voice control is not listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone
> I think there were more, but I can't remember them all.
> It was super bizarre behavior.
> My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
> anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
> what was going on this time.
> Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the Apple
> Store.
>
> For the person having trouble reading email.
> I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
> to see what you might be talking about.
> I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
> the reading part that way.
> Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
> "More Actions Available"
> When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
> the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
> a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
> junk to get rid of it.
> Has someone else found the delete button?
> Teresa☺
>
>
>
>
> On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not sure
>> if
>> you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, turning it
>> off
>> helps with composing, but reading is another issue altogether. I spend so
>> much time just looking for the body of a message that it is ridiculous.
>> And
>> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just double
>> tap
>> it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and sometimes the
>> delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at the bottom of the
>> screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful right now and I really
>> hope it gets fixed soon.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it worked
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email
>>> app
>>>
>>> penny,
>>> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:

 Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am having
> sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top of my email
> inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, still running
> 12.4
> or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I open
> an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top of the
> inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I have to trawl
> through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become unusable for mail. I
> have tried a reset settings, but it made no difference.
>
> Help please! Sandy.
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Editing Videos in 13.1.2 on iPhone

[Jim Fettgather]

Wow, they have really changed the photos app, especially in terms of trimming 
the beginning and end of videos, I cannot figure out what’s happening.
There seems to be two sets of sliders, one is having to do with a frame of some 
kind, the other is the end time, and the same thing for the start time, two 
sets of sliders.
But when I tried to trim the end time, to make it shorter, the done button is 
grayed out, and so I cannot trim the end of the video.
Is there a new secret to this now?
I really like to tighten up the start and end times, so this change is very 
strange, so if anyone has figured it out, I could sure use a hint.
Thanks a lot.

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Tune In Radio on Homepod

[Jim Fettgather]

Interesting situation with HomePod.
It will play stations from I Heart radio, but when asked to play, let’s say
KDFC, it will respond, Playing KDFC from Tune In, but then no music.
Anyone else experienced this?
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Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

[Jim Fettgather]

I accidentally turned on two factor authentication while setting up a New Mac 
computer, and have regretted it ever since.
I do not think there is a way to turn it off, I find it highly annoying!


From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

Unfortunately I don’t think you can. I tried to do this a couple of months ago. 
It looks to me like, once its on youre stuck with it.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 2 Aug 2019, at 23:21, Cris Ali  wrote:


   
  Hello folks,

  Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to 
do that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also logged 
on to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check boxes or 
drop down menus to turn it off.  It shows under security as turned on, but it 
does not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know how to do that?

   

  I appreciate any help.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Cris

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Re: Dick Tatian problem

[Jim Fettgather]

Perhaps instead of trying to improve Siri's voice in IOS 13, maybe the
dictation could be fixed?
It is not horrible, but dictation is far more accurate on other platforms.

On 8/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work for
> me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:
>
> Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and not
> the number 6.
> I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want
> this number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral six
> bananas".
>
> And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger word
> and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get
> wrong otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were
> introduced, come on Apple.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
> Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem
>
> www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:37 AM
> Subject: Dick Tatian problem
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the dictation
>
> on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email
> address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a letter
>
> off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address and
>
> I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
> Michael
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Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[Jim Fettgather]

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv
app during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Jim and Everyone,

When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a way 
to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
VoiceOver?


Thank you,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Fettgather

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations that 
have been made regarding this app.
However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am wondering if 
anyone else is having the same issue.

Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
I am hearing the following:
Time:   Name of show.
Time:  Name of show.
In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not 
announced, only the word "time."
Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times are 
announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.

Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that 
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in 
the U.S.


1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not 
work with VoiceOver.


2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, 
also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how 
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad 
and both experiences are marvelous.


3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to 
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary 
member is subscribed? For no additional costs.


So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television 
cable service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your 
devices so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within 
your home and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can 
authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their 
mobile devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say 
limited because these users cannot access your actual account in terms of 
receiving bills, seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the 
items that you allow them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an 
example.  Each of your authorized limited users will have her own login 
user ID and Password, separate and distinct from your own.  You can change 
their account access permissions or remove them from your account at any 
time, at which point the Spectrum TV app and any of its related features 
will be immediately disabled.


The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, 
is completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.


Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum 
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the 
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced 
account management.


So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so, 
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.


Mark


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Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[Jim Fettgather]

I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations that 
have been made regarding this app.
However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am wondering if 
anyone else is having the same issue.

Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
I am hearing the following:
Time:   Name of show.
Time:  Name of show.
In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not announced, 
only the word "time."
Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times are 
announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.

Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in
the U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not
work with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad
and both experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary member
is subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices
so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home
and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills,
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password,
separate and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access
permissions or remove them from your account at any time, at which point the
Spectrum TV app and any of its related features will be immediately
disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced
account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so,
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

Mark


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Siri and Reading Email

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Hello to the list.
Siri does a fine job reading aloud text messages, and allowing one to
respond as well.
It seems that with email, Siri only reads the sender's name and
subject, but not the actual email message.
It does not appear that there is a way to get Siri to do this, unless
I am missing a step.
Alternatively, I am wondering if there might be an accessible app in
the app store that would simulate this functionality, allowing for the
reading and resonding to email messages on the iPhone or iPad.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: getting the phone to stop having voice over talk while on a call

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This exact same situation has happened to me, IOS 12.3, iPhone X S.
It is as if the phone is in speaker phone mode, but it is not.
The caller is coming through the earpiece, but your cheek can make Voiceover 
speak icons on the screen, such as numbers on the keypad, and, incoming 
notifications are heard through the earpiece while the call is in progress.


I cannot replicate this problem consistently, but it has happened on a 
number of occasions.




-Original Message- 
From: Casey

Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 8:11 AM
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Subject: getting the phone to stop having voice over talk while on a call

Hi I have the iPhone 10 XR.

And when I am on A call and I touch the screen I have voice over talking
while on the call how do you correct this?

With out having to turn voice over off every time you make A call?

Also when notifications come in how do you make them now talk while on A
call thank you very much.



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Bluetooth Speaker, Voiceover and Siri

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
I am using an iPhone X S which is paired via bluetooth to a Bose Mini
Sound link speaker.
All audio sounds fantastic.
Voiceover comes through the bluetooth speaker along with all music.
However, Siri responses are still going through the iPhone speaker
instead of through the Bose bluetooth speaker.
I am hoping perhaps there is a way to change this?
I would like for Siri responses to play from the Bose as well, but do
not know if this is possible.
Thanks for any suggestions..

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Re: about Spectrum app.

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When in the guide for the spectrum TV app, the times of the day are
not announced at all after activating a channel number, followed by
network schedule.
What is up with that?  Very uncool..

On 3/18/19, Mama Peach  wrote:
> Me too. Ever since we switched to Spectrum, I have had no problems using the
> app. It is superior to other services that I have tried in the past.
>
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 4:10 PM
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> I like the iphone app very much.
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> Andy
>
>   - Original Message -
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>   Subject: about Spectrum app.
>
>   Cable provider, Spectrum now offers an app in the app store for their
> users. I can't say I like it very much, but it is there. I was hoping to
> find a way to enter particular channel numbers, but thus far have not been
> able too. I guess the one thing I can say is that I'm glad it's there, now
> just wish they'd do one for the Fire TV.
>
>   Fred Olver
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Question about the Photos App and Voiceover

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
When I am in the photos app, scrolling through photos, when I do a 3 finger 
single tap, often, Voiceover will give a quite accurate detailed description of 
the photo, without even needing to open the photo.
But other times, the same gesture will just say page 344 of 345, and no 
detailed description is spoken.
I cannot figure out how to get these descriptions spoken consistently, because 
when they are spoken, they are quite detailed and accurate.
Thanks for any tips on this inconsistent behavior in the photos app for this 
puzzling problem.

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Find My Friends with IOS 12.1.4

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Hello to the list.
I had been curious to know if the App, sometimes called Find Friends, sometimes 
called Find My Friends, works well with Voiceover.
I did not have to download the app, it appeared to be pre-installed on the 
iPhone.
When I had established a contact to share their location, I looked around on 
the app, found the contacts phone number, and Voiceover spoke, 1 mile away, or 
2 miles away, and so on.
However it would be far more preferable to get a precise intersection, address, 
or something more helpful than just how many miles away.
If anyone has worked with this app, and knows any secrets, I would sure 
appreciate hearing about it.
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Re: Adding songs to a playlist within Apple music

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Terri,
So, let's say you are playing a song within the music app on your iPhone.

While the song is playing, you will want to find the part of the screen that 
says Album Artwork, image.
The first thing that you will then hear, is Dismiss now playing screen, but 
we don't want to do that.

You will want to flick until you reach the More button.
Double tap on that, and if you flick to the right, you will see a button 
that says Add to a Play List.
You may then choose to create a new play list, or add to an existing play 
list.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:19 PM
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Subject: Adding songs to a playlist within Apple music

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, how do I go about adding songs to a playlist, within Apple 
music?
I want to know how to add songs I search for. As well as songs that are in 
my library.


Any help is very appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Photos and the Share Sheet, Where is Seeing AI

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
At one time, I could open the photos app, open a photo, choose Share, and 
Recognize with Seeing AI was one of the choices on the Share Sheet.
Now, even with Seeing AI running in the background, it has disappeared as an 
option.
I cannot even get Envision AI, with it running in the background, to show up on 
the share sheet.
Anyone know of a way to fix this situation, to get Seeing AI back on the share 
sheet after selecting a photo?
Thanks for any thoughts.

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IOS App Store, Where is the Share button?

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Hello, I had thought that somewhere in the app store, when you are looking at 
the app, there is a share button to send the info about the app to others.

Is there no longer a Share button?  If there is, I sure cannot find it with 
Voiceover.
Thanks for any tips.

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Re: Spectrum TV App

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Hello, the only way I have now found to silence the sound while Live TV is 
playing is to activate one of the other tabs on the bottom of the screen, such 
as Guide.
At least for me, with the iPhone in portrait mode, this silences the audio.
Not the best solution, but it seems to work every time.
Thanks.



From: Sherrie Gosling 
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App

I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to navigate. 
I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is currently 
playing on each in a list.

I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play it 
on the living room TV!

What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When I 
go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio from 
some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through the list 
and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the previous 
one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the living room 
TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or so off from 
the audio from the actual TV.

I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when 
watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.

Sherrie Gosling

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

 

I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also works 
delightfully well right from with in the app.

Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play 
immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.

 

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App

 

Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just 
wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP channel 
for that .. which is another topic all together … 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to 
the secondary audio channel.  

I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor 
have I found any fast forward controls.

I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.

There is a bit of a problem with the guide.

You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on 
network schedule for that channel.

The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the day 
that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the program, 
but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then announced 
correctly.

I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could be 
made.

Thanks.

 

 

 

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello,

 

Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions 
relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …

 

I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also 
switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching recorded 
stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and are you able 
to rewind and fast forward?

 

Thanks for any assistance … 

 

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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Jim Fettgather]

I have not tried this, but have you tried a two finger double tap to
silence the audio while watching live TV?

On 1/4/19, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to
> navigate. I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is
> currently playing on each in a list.
> I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play
> it on the living room TV!
> What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When
> I go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio
> from some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through
> the list and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the
> previous one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the
> living room TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or
> so off from the audio from the actual TV.
> I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when
> watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.
> Sherrie Gosling
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>
> I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also
> works delightfully well right from with in the app.
> Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play
> immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.
>
> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App
>
> Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just
> wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP
> channel for that .. which is another topic all together …
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
> Fettgather
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>
> Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to
> the secondary audio channel.
> I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor
> have I found any fast forward controls.
> I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.
> There is a bit of a problem with the guide.
> You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on
> network schedule for that channel.
> The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the
> day that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the
> program, but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then
> announced correctly.
> I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could
> be made.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spectrum TV App
>
> Hello,
>
> Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions
> relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …
>
> I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also
> switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching
> recorded stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and
> are you able to rewind and fast forward?
>
> Thanks for any assistance …
>
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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Jim Fettgather]

I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also works 
delightfully well right from with in the app.
Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play 
immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App

Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just 
wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP channel 
for that .. which is another topic all together … 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to 
the secondary audio channel.  

I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor 
have I found any fast forward controls.

I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.

There is a bit of a problem with the guide.

You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on 
network schedule for that channel.

The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the day 
that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the program, 
but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then announced 
correctly.

I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could be 
made.

Thanks.

 

 

 

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello,

 

Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions 
relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …

 

I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also 
switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching recorded 
stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and are you able 
to rewind and fast forward?

 

Thanks for any assistance … 

 

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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to 
the secondary audio channel.  
I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor 
have I found any fast forward controls.
I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.
There is a bit of a problem with the guide.
You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on 
network schedule for that channel.
The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the day 
that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the program, 
but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then announced 
correctly.
I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could be 
made.
Thanks.



From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Spectrum TV App

Hello,

 

Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions 
relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …

 

I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also 
switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching recorded 
stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and are you able 
to rewind and fast forward?

 

Thanks for any assistance … 

 

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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

[Jim Fettgather]

I believe that it is an update to the Shortcuts app itself, that is
why Siri shortcuts are broken, and it is very uncool.  So, I do not
think that it is the version of IOS, but rather, the shortcuts app
that is broken


On 12/4/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi richard,
> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on
> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did
> work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it
> is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either,
> because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work.
> Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been
> all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped
>> working since iOS 12.1.
>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after
>> rerecording a phrase.
>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same
>> bad results.
>>
>> They worked fine in iOS 12.
>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are
>> ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant
>> people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with
>> VoiceOver, he ignored me.
>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are
>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around,
>> please share.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, iMore

[Jim Fettgather]

If GBoard from Google will improve its accessibility and compatibility with 
Voiceover, it could provide an alternative method for dictation, as this is 
so frustrating the way it is now in IOS 12.
Additionally, I have noticed that if I dictate into the IOS version of 
Google Docs, no dictation errors, no changes after dictation is completed, 
it is quite accurate and quite amazing.
-Original Message- 
From: TaraPrakash

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, 
iMore


I second that. And sometimes u  dictate something it reads back do you 
something completely different. But actually typing what do you ask it too. 
The recognition accuracy has significantly come down athlete.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:28 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Sieghard, I know what you mean about dictation. Sometimes it just gets it 
so, so wrong! And I've found lately that dictation has gotten even weirder 
lately. What happens is that you'll dictate something, and when it's read 
back, VO reads what you dictated, and it's correct. Then, when you go and 
double-check the message, just in case, things will be completely screwed 
up. It's like dictation does a second pass through your text, and you'll 
end up with all sorts of errors--slightly wrong words, completely 
different words, whole chunks of your sentence missing, and the last, and 
worst, only the last word of your sentence being dictated. Now, I've used 
an iPhone since September of 2011, so I'm not a new user by any means, and 
know how to dictate very well; in fact, it drives me nuts when people 
don't dictate punctuation. This worsening behavior is just awful.


I know what you mean about dictation not getting a certain word right, no 
matter how much you say it. My word that it screws up on all the time on 
one day was raisin. This happened both when I tried to dictate it and when 
I tried asking Siri how to spell it. It kept inputting or giving me the 
answer of reason, which was totally frustrating!



Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I had a real good chuckle at the dictation mention and how better it is 
to talk than type at times.
Of course this would be true if SIRI wasn't so stupid and make so many 
mistakes.
I dictate a lot, but I have made it a rule never or at least extremely 
rarely will I send a message without going over it word by word because 
sometimes especially with a bit of background noise just hearing it read 
back can sound like it's OK when it is not.
I find especially often I will say "a" or "him" or "them" and SIRI puts 
"the" instead of "a", "them" instead of "him" and so on.
A couple of weeks ago I send a message to my Mom where I was talking 
about my niece who wants to get a backpack for Christmas. As some of you 
know I own a retail business and sell outdoor and hunting gear and 
backpacks are definitely an item we have lots of. Anyways, I dictated the 
message but instead of "backpack" SIRI wrote "fuck fuck", sorry for the 
bad word, but I am not kidding and I sent the message and didn't catch it 
because I was doing this as I was walking with traffic noise and it 
honestly sounded correct. My Mom did realize what happened so it wasn't 
the end of the world, but sometimes what SIRI comes up with can be 
potentially extremely embarrassing and at times I really scratch my head. 
Another one is my guide dog's name which is Radar, SIRI never gets that 
right, it either puts "reader" or "raider" or "rider"




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, iMore

Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!
By Rene Ritchie, 24 Nov 2018
Tap. Shake. Press. Whether you're using an iPhone on the go or an iPad 
Pro to get your very real work… or play… done, the more efficient you can 
be, the better. Including typing. Especially typing.
Following the launch of the latest iPad Pro, even basic typing tricks 
like trackpad mode and cursor movement spread through social with viral 
shock and delight. Years old, many people still simply didn't know.

Well, let's fix that now.
I usually try to do these things in order, but this one got so much 
attention lately I'm going to front load so you get it first. If you're 
using the virtual keyboard you can quickly switch it to a virtual 
trackpad, which makes precisely placing the cursor for precision edits 
much, much easier.

1.Touch and hold the Space Bar.
2.Swipe your finger over the trackpad to move the cursor.
On a 3D Touch iPhone, you can also press firmly to switch to trackpad 
mode, and press again to switch between moving the cursor and text 
selection.
On an iPad, you can just use two fingers directly on the text to move the 
cursor, and 

Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[Jim Fettgather]

I have great results with Short Text, but that Document channel does
take a very precise positioning, hard to get it to work consistently,
I have had better luck using a ScanJig scanning stand.

On 11/28/18, kelbycarl...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Does anyone have more specific suggestions? Like I said, I've even had my
> wife use the app to scan documents and she hasn't gotten any better results
>
> than I have. I can sometimes get decent results with the short text channel
>
> and it is useful for scanning barcodes, but the document channel never
> works. I do try to position it farther away from the document and follow
> the guidance instructions, but nothing helps.
>
> On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:41:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Ed wrote:
>>
>> You could try uninstalling the app and reinstalling and see if that helps
>>
>> any.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> vip...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:39 PM
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
>>
>> Seeing AI it’s probably the most efficient   And most impressive app  that
>>
>> costs nothing. Maybe you shouldn’t use the app more often to get familiar
>>
>> and successful with results
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:29 PM, kelby carlson > > wrote:
>> >
>> > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary
>> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more
>> often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and
>> readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always
>> inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never perfect.
>>
>> Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the
>>
>> pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many documents.
>>
>> For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.
>> >
>> > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in
>> >
>> the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the
>> lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I
>> havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are
>> positioning the camera correctly with bad results.
>> >
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Re: Regarding the iPhone XS

[Jim Fettgather]

Just a quick note, you do not need to use a passcode, or Face ID on the X S.
You may elect to use neither of them.

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Regarding the iPhone XS

Hello everyone,


Today I got to look at a friend's iPhone XS. I found it to be rather
interesting, and different. But I also found it to be rather frustrating.


I did not know that now you either have to use a passcode, or face ID. I
honestly feel it should be your personal choice rather or not as to if
you should have to use any of it. But that's just me. I am 1 who never
mis-places their phone. I don't leave it unattended, and it's always on
me, or near me. But I also realize that not everyone is this fortunate.


I knew there was no longer a home button. I really didn't care for this.

I mean, how in the world does anyone get back to a main screen? Or out
of either an App you are in, or out of a list of your Apps?

I know it's doable, because I listened to what Voiceover told me to do.
But I just could not get the hang of those gestures. I kept closing
Apps, and I wasn't even using 3 fingers to slide up.


So it was a very odd, and unusual experience. I would like to spend more
time with 1 of these phones, just to try and figure it out. But I don't
think I want to personally own 1.

But I know in time these are likely going to be the only options I have.
So I feel I should have a better grasp of how to use 1.


I will say that I liked the feel of the phone in my hand. I liked the
texture of it. It was out of the case.


So that was my experience. I just wanted to share this with you all.


Terri

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Re: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Jim Fettgather]

I have two home pods,  and I am so glad I made the purchase!
They are fantastic, they can fill an entire room with incredibly rich, 
beautiful stereo sound.
Incredible bass, they can be unbelievably  loud if you are not careful, I 
have mine at 50% and that is plenty loud!
And of course, they can make phone calls and send text messages as well, 
they are among the best purchases I have ever made.

You can move them around easily if you wish, they are great!
-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com ; 
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Subject: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

Hi all,
This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the 
HomePod speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair 
of those in an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice 
stereo set up, but it’s rather old, although the speakers are still 
wonderful. I’m just curious what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, 
especially as a stereo pair in a moderate sized living room, as well as how 
it works otherwise. Siri, phone calls, etc.

Mary


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Re: Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone

[Jim Fettgather]

The dictation, when you get it working, is quite a bit more accurate
than the built in IOS dictation.
The only problem I am experiencing is that while dictating, the
dictation is simultaneously being spoken back by Voiceover.  If I can
figure out how to turn that off, I think it can be a viable
alternative for accurate dictation.


On 11/5/18, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> what is the advantage using this keyboard?
>
> Lyne
>
>> Le 5 nov. 2018 à 09:07, Gordon  a écrit :
>>
>> If you find a way not to be cut off so quickly let me know. You
>> practically have to say everything with no pauses or it will cut you off.
>> Then you have to hit the ike keyboard button again in order to use the
>> space bar again to dictate.
>>
>>> On 11/5/2018 6:13 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>> Hello, I also now have this up and running beautifully, thanks for the
>>> tip, I have noticed however, that voiceover is speaking the message as I
>>> dictate, but I think that there is a Hide or Show Preview button, but not
>>> sure where it is located.
>>> I am certainly enjoying the accuracy of this dictation, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Gordon
>>> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:22 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using Google's GBoard with the   iPhone
>>>
>>> I got this up and running on my phone. The ike button is on the bottom
>>> left corner of the screen. You can hold the space bar when you first open
>>> the keyboard and talk. But you have to hit this ike button if you want to
>>> continue to dictate because holding the space bar wont work after the
>>> first dictation unless you do. And you have to be fast and don't pause
>>> when talking or it will stop your dictation. But it does type and
>>> dictations are really accurate unlike the stock keyboard.
>>>
>>>> On 11/4/2018 11:56 PM, Robert Wright wrote:
>>>> Just out of curiosity do you have problems correcting dictated
>>>> messages?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>>>> you!***
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Jim Fettgather
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi to the list.
>>>>
>>>> I am so close to get this to working, but I cannot figure out a few
>>>> steps.
>>>>
>>>> You may have experienced less than stellar results with IOS dictation,
>>>> even so far as to experience dictating text, having it show up correctly
>>>> when reviewing, and then when you look at the results, you get back
>>>> something quite different than what you had originally dictated, and
>>>> sometimes, dramatically different.
>>>>
>>>> I decided to download and install Google’s GBoard, and make it a third
>>>> party keyboard, but only with partial success.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, there is a button that you must activate called Hide
>>>> Keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> I have only been able to find this button only one time.
>>>>
>>>> When you do this, you double tap and hold on the spacebar, and Google’s
>>>> dictation will begin.
>>>>
>>>> Google’s dictation, at least for right now, is incredibly more accurate
>>>> than the dictation in IOS, at least, this is what I have found,
>>>> especially in the messages app.
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get perfect dictation results, but now that darn Hide
>>>> Keyboard button has disappeared!
>>>>
>>>> I fully understand and appreciate that some may be experiencing no
>>>> problems with dictation at all.
>>>>
>>>> So, I am wondering if anyone has tried installing and using GBoard,
>>>> available for free in the app store,  and what your experiences may have
>>>> been.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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Re: Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I also now have this up and running beautifully, thanks for the tip, I 
have noticed however, that voiceover is speaking the message as I dictate, but 
I think that there is a Hide or Show Preview button, but not sure where it is 
located.
I am certainly enjoying the accuracy of this dictation, thanks.



From: Gordon 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone

I got this up and running on my phone. The ike button is on the bottom left 
corner of the screen. You can hold the space bar when you first open the 
keyboard and talk. But you have to hit this ike button if you want to continue 
to dictate because holding the space bar wont work after the first dictation 
unless you do. And you have to be fast and don't pause when talking or it will 
stop your dictation. But it does type and dictations are really accurate unlike 
the stock keyboard.  




On 11/4/2018 11:56 PM, Robert Wright wrote:

  Just out of curiosity do you have problems correcting dictated messages?

   

  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
***

   

  From: Jim Fettgather
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone

   

  Hi to the list.

  I am so close to get this to working, but I cannot figure out a few steps.

  You may have experienced less than stellar results with IOS dictation, even 
so far as to experience dictating text, having it show up correctly when 
reviewing, and then when you look at the results, you get back something quite 
different than what you had originally dictated, and sometimes, dramatically 
different.

  I decided to download and install Google’s GBoard, and make it a third party 
keyboard, but only with partial success.

  Apparently, there is a button that you must activate called Hide Keyboard.

  I have only been able to find this button only one time.

  When you do this, you double tap and hold on the spacebar, and Google’s 
dictation will begin.

  Google’s dictation, at least for right now, is incredibly more accurate than 
the dictation in IOS, at least, this is what I have found, especially in the 
messages app.

  I was able to get perfect dictation results, but now that darn Hide Keyboard 
button has disappeared!

  I fully understand and appreciate that some may be experiencing no problems 
with dictation at all.

  So, I am wondering if anyone has tried installing and using GBoard, available 
for free in the app store,  and what your experiences may have been.

  Thanks.

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Using Google's GBoard with the iPhone

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.
I am so close to get this to working, but I cannot figure out a few steps.
You may have experienced less than stellar results with IOS dictation, even so 
far as to experience dictating text, having it show up correctly when 
reviewing, and then when you look at the results, you get back something quite 
different than what you had originally dictated, and sometimes, dramatically 
different.
I decided to download and install Google’s GBoard, and make it a third party 
keyboard, but only with partial success.
Apparently, there is a button that you must activate called Hide Keyboard.
I have only been able to find this button only one time.
When you do this, you double tap and hold on the spacebar, and Google’s 
dictation will begin.
Google’s dictation, at least for right now, is incredibly more accurate than 
the dictation in IOS, at least, this is what I have found, especially in the 
messages app.
I was able to get perfect dictation results, but now that darn Hide Keyboard 
button has disappeared!
I fully understand and appreciate that some may be experiencing no problems 
with dictation at all.
So, I am wondering if anyone has tried installing and using GBoard, available 
for free in the app store,  and what your experiences may have been.
Thanks.

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Re: Netflix questions

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi Bill, it seems as if there are 2 ways to make this happen.
 You can try setting this up right from  the iPhone, Settings,
General, Accessibility, scroll all the way down, you will fine, Audio
Descriptions, and make sure it is turned on.
Netflix claims that it will honor this setting.
Alternatively, you need to actually go into Netflix, and start a show playing.

And, sure enough, I just started a show from within the app, the
screen switches to landscape, and there is a button that says Audio
and Subtitle options.
And, English Audio Description is one of the choices.
So there you have it, there two ways to make this happen, and the
second way will definitely work.



On 10/26/18, Bill Outman  wrote:
> I am using the iPhone 8 Plus to watch in Netflix.
>
>
>
> I found App Settings button under the More tab, but didn’t find enabling
> audio description as was described.
>
>
>
> Bill Outman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Netflix questions
>
>
>
> I also find Netflix very to use. My only complaint is that they don't change
> stuff up enough. Amazon video prime or Amazon prime videos are very easy to
> use two from the app. Only problem with that format is that once you start
> playing something you can't add it to your watchlist so when you close out
> that show if you close the app then you have to go back find it again and
> then find the episode you last were watching. Better to just leave the app
> open if you don't mind the energy drain. Or having it in The background.
>
> Deidre
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>
> Hi All, here is my experience from the UK:
>
>
>
> Accessing the list of AD films is different on the iphone to the Apple TV.
> On the iphone it feels like it is at the bottom of a vertical category list,
> while in the apple TV it is at the end of a horizontal list. Clicking on the
> category brings up over 700 currently described shows.
>
>
>
> These lists change over time with some being withdrawn.
>
>
>
> Sometimes older films are brought in. Jaws and the Back to the Future
> trilogy are currently available.
>
>
>
> Annoyingly, sometimes AD will be missing even if listed. This has happened
> especially in TV series, such as Gotham. The first three series had AD.
> Series 4 was listed as having it, but AD only appeared around episode 15.
> This is very frustrating.
>
>
>
> What I do is go through the whole list every now and again, adding ones that
> look good to the My List category for future reference.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps. Netflix is still the best experience out there in my humble
> opinion.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 26 Oct 2018, at 05:13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>
>
> Netflix doesn’t have a lot of the older movies, I haven’t looked, but I
> doubt they have Jaws.
>
> What device did you use to watch, iPhone or Apple TV? Whether you get audio
> descriptions or not depends a bit on that.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:   viphone@googlegroups.com <
>  viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Bill Outman
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:03 PM
> To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Netflix questions
>
>
>
> Well, during the past week I finally got the courage to use my Netflix
> account.
>
>
>
> I successfully watched White Christmas and Pocahontas.  I did this throught
> the browse feature.  I found Pocahontas under the audio description under
> the audio description list, but couldn’t figure out how to play the audio
> described version, or find it for the other movie if it had it.  Is there
> some setting I need to adjust in the app so that button shows up?
>
>
>
> I am not sure if I am finding all the search results when I type the name of
> a film or television show.  How can I tell if I am seeing all the results or
> if Netflix just doesn’t have what I’m looking for.  Today I happened to be
> looking for a couple major films, Jaws and The 40-Year-Old Virgin.
>
>
>
> I want to work on these issues before I work on other apps such as Hulu
> which I also have.
>
>
>
> Bill Outman
>
>
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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, Mark, thanks for these observations and suggestions.
Interesting, when I use my Home Pod to dictate a message, the accuracy is 
almost 100%.
I have noticed on the iPhone 8 plus, during dictation, I am hearing a whooshing 
sound while dictating, but only in messages.
Maybe this has something to do with this refresh rate to which you are 
referring.
I had read on a forum somewhere, a possible solution.
First, disable dictation.
Then, completely disable Siri.
These must be disabled for 24 hours so that all of your voice data will be 
erased from Apple servers.
I am going to try this, since I am now obsessed by this highly strange and 
irritating situation.
Thanks.

  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Okay, I have an iPhone 8 Plus and cannot reproduce this dictation bug.  
Generally speaking, I use either my Apple AirPods or the inline EarPods that 
shipped with the phone, itself.

Here's the thing, though, I can kind of see how others are getting this 
dictation bug.  I think it has to do with the video refresh rate problem that I 
mentioned, a couple of days ago.  This refresh rate issue occurs more 
frequently when VoiceOver is enabled.  

It's very difficult to explain because it has to do with a hiccup that takes 
place within nanno-seconds.  I remember that this kind of thing happened back 
in the early days of iPhone 6.  

Just report your findings to Apple and, hopefully, they will correlate them and 
discern the problem.  I'm almost positive that the solution will have something 
to do with the various video display drivers on various models.  

By the way, some non-VoiceOver users are reporting similar hick-ups at various 
times.  In fact, I had two sighted people call me, today, asking why there 
phones kind of stall, only for a split second, but something, nevertheless.  

Hang in there and we'll all get this figured out.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

I also have an iPhone 8 and I am experiencing the same problem. It is also 
adding words to the sentences that I have not spoken. I’m not sure what is 
causing this. I have had an iPhone 5 six and seven and have use cases on all of 
them and have never experienced this before. I have even taken it to the Apple 
store so that they could see if something was going wrong with the speaker and 
according to them the hardware with my phone is great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
> you use a headset?
> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other 
> iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a 
> wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate, 
> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start 
> fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really 
> like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Jim Fettgather]

The only other observation that I  have, and I truly do not know the
answer, is that I also have an iPad connected with the same Apple ID,
and dictation is almost always perfect.
Plus, on other iPhone8's that I have tried, the dictation is almost
always flawless.
There is just some variable, either on the local device, or somewhere
in the cloud, that is affecting these outcomes.



On 9/25/18, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> My dictation could also be very frustrating and very inaccurate in any apps
> that I use.itwith. If I use dictation in a quiet room with no other sounds
> heard or music playing.
> It usually works just fine under these circumstances.
>  I thought that in this latest update Applewould improve Siri however I
> guess they haven’t.
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Then I realluy don't know, on my 6S Plus it works just as well when I
>> dictate a text or iMessage as it does if I dictate an email, Whats App
>> message, Facebook Messengewr message or Note using the Notes app.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and
>> also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other
>> dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely
>> compromised.
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or
>> do you use a headset?
>> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other iPads
>> and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a wonderful
>> job with dictation in I-Message.
>> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
>> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
>> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start fresh,
>> it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really like to be
>> able to count on its dictation capabilities.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Jim Fettgather]

Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and 
also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other 
dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely compromised.
Thanks

-Original Message-
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Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
you use a headset?
Do you have a case on your iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
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Re: iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi there, I have been using OOTunes for many years, it's my favorite radio app.
So, I went to my favorites list, started a station, and to pick
another one, I pressed the Back button, and chose another stream,
started it, and was again able to press the Back button to the list of
favorites.
I am not certain whether this is the exact scenario that you are
describing, but this is how I have always operated OOTunes, including
now in IOS 12.
Thanks.

On 9/20/18, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  wrote:
>  I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this
> app in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming
> apps) user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so
> streams in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the
> initial one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver
> goes silent, ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable
> conditions appear.
>
> This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave
> ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other
> streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate
> either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.
>
> I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?
>
>
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Re: Creating a contact from an i-message

[Jim Fettgather]

Thanks, it took me a few tries, how are people going to figure this
out, and where is it documented?  It is amazing that you figured it
out.

On 9/19/18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Yes, it seems like there is one more layer at least.
> Open the text message.
> Then double tap on the phone number.
> Then, double tap on the phone number again.
> Then flick right to the info button and double tap.
> You have to then double tap again on the number before you find the create
> contact option where it usually shows up.
> Pretty convoluted.
> Richard
>
>
>
> "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the
> right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." -
> Dorothy Nevill
>
>
>
> [Sent from my little hand-held computer]
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Jim Fettgather
> mailto:jimfettgat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is driving me mad.
> I swear i could do this in ios 11, but I cannot figure this out in IOS 12.
> So I have an i-message from a 10-digit number, and I would really like
> to make this individual into a contact.
> I have tapped everywhere, but the web results are few and far between
> since the operating system is new.
> Most of the results tell you how to block senders.
> So, does anyone know how to create a contact from a sender who is not
> yet a contact?
> Thanks for any assistance.
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Creating a contact from an i-message

[Jim Fettgather]

This is driving me mad.
I swear i could do this in ios 11, but I cannot figure this out in IOS 12.
So I have an i-message from a 10-digit number, and I would really like
to make this individual into a contact.
I have tapped everywhere, but the web results are few and far between
since the operating system is new.
Most of the results tell you how to block senders.
So, does anyone know how to create a contact from a sender who is not
yet a contact?
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Re: IOS 12 and message notifications

[Jim Fettgather]

Apparently, if you have a pass code, the messages will properly open
from the lock screen.
If you do not have a pass code, they will not open.
One way I have found to get around this annoying bug is to flick down
to View while the notification is highlighted.
Hope that helps.

On 9/18/18, Todd W  wrote:
> Hi Marie,
>
> I haven’t seen this problem on iOS 12.  I’ve updated my iPhone, iPad, and
> have another iPad which ran the beta.  Double tapping asks me to unlock
> with TouchID or my pin and goes right into the conversation.  You may
> already have, but if you haven’t, try restarting your phone.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:02 PM Marie N.  wrote:
>
>> I noticed this problem in the beta and reported it to Apple but now it is
>> still not fixed.
>> In the past, when a message came up on your locked screen, you could
>> double tap on it and would be taken directly into the Messaging app and
>> with the thread open and the keyboard on screen. Now however, tapping on
>> the message on the locked screen does nothing whatsoever. This means you
>> have to
>> 1. Unlock your screen
>> 2. Open the messaging app
>> 3 Find the thread with the unread message and double tap
>> 4 Double tap on the message to bring up the keyboard.
>> Obviously, this is a step backwards and much more cumbersome.
>> I realize that you could invoke Siri and use it to reply but I am one of
>> those who does not like using Siri for texting and this is very annoying
>> and time consuming.
>> Please try this to see if your experience is the same and if so, please
>> send feedback to Apple. I have now sent feedback twice.
>> Marie
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Recent Calls List with Unexpected Behavior

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I am wondering if this is new behavior, in the Phone App, under
recent calls.
I had called a hotel, so, I wanted to add it to my contacts.
I went into recent calls, tapped the More Info button expecting the
contacts screen to open.
Wow! Was I surprised to find all kinds of reviews, maps, other info
about the hotel, and finally, the Create new Contact.
I had never had this  happen before, it was a bit jarring, but not
unpleasant, just unexpected.
Is this new?

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Re: Reading Text Formatting

[Jim Fettgather]

I have tried this both in Notes and in Pages with a Bluetooth keyboard.
Control Option T reports fairly good font and formatting information.

On 8/24/18, Devin Prater  wrote:
> I’m sorry, but there isn’t. If you are on the web, or in apps, formatted
> text is a separate element than normal text. In iBooks, there is no way.
>
>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Kelby Carlson 
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Deleting messages in IOS 11.3.1

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.
I have noticed that while in a group of messages, and I flick down to
delete a group of messages, and then respond to the delete
confirmation, I am placed back at the Edit button at the top left of
the screen, instead of focus being in the list of messages right where
I left off.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Thanks.

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Re: scrolling in the tipps app is not accessible in ios11.3.1 or what am I doing wrong?

[Jim Fettgather]

OK, this is a bit tricky, and does not work exactly as it should, but it does 
work.
Make sure your focus is in the text of the tip, in other words, touch the text 
on page one of five.
Do a three finger flick left.
The page will change, but you will not initially know it, but the text will be 
different, you will have changed to the next page.
I did write to Apple accessibility about this, they told me the trick of how to 
change pages, and are aware of the problem.
I do enjoy reading the tips, and now that I am aware of the way to scroll the 
page, it’s not perfect, but it does work.
Thanks. 

From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: scrolling in the tipps app is not accessible in ios11.3.1 or what am I 
doing wrong?

Hi folks 

When scrolling into the tips in various sections of the apple tips app you can 
only see one tip the first above in the list and then it says: 1 of 6 for 
example.
Is there a way to see the other tips, even with voiceover off and a sighted 
gesture for scrolling and turn vo back on then?
Regards
Davy 
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RE: Working with videos on an iPhone 7?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi Jim, as near as I can determine, iMovie, which is free, is going to be the 
best way to attempt to do this.
Now, I have good success trimming the beginning or the end of a video, but the 
trick is, when you want to perhaps delete something out of the middle.
Fortunately, if you have a Bluetooth  keyboard, this process is a lot easier.
With the keyboard, you need to pause the video, then press command B to split 
the tracks.
Now, somehow, through this process of splitting and then joining tracks, you 
can get an edited video suitable for posting to Youtube.
Please keep in mind that I am just starting out with this entire concept of 
video editing, but I am pretty certain that with some practice, and knowing the 
Bluetooth keyboard commands, of which there are quite a few, I really   feel 
that this can be accomplished successfully.
Thanks.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Working with videos on an iPhone 7?

Good morning,
I tried sending a message to the list yesterday but don’t know if it got there, 
so I thought I’d ask again.

Two days ago, I had someone video record something on my iPhone 7.  Now, I’d 
like to see if I can go into the video, take a clip or two from it, and be able 
to post it on Youtube or Facebook.
The entire video is too long, but if I can find a way of taking some parts, 
that would be great.
What app might be useful for this job?  Does anyone have experience in doing 
something like this, and if so, might you be willing to give me some advice or 
assistance?
Thanks very much.
Jim Portillo


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RE: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps voice doesn't change,

[Jim Fettgather]

Maybe someone has already mentioned this, but I find that if I add a new voice, 
I sometimes have to turn Voiceover completely off, then back on again, for the 
new voice to become available.

Thanks

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps 
voice doesn't change,

 

I can't explain it any more clearly than I did. We did all the right steps 
including selecting Tom, and the voice does not change. Thank you for replying.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 9:14 AM

Subject: RE: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps 
voice doesn't change,

 

You would really need to post a message explaining step-by-step what you do.

The only thing that is obvious to me is that you obviously are in Voiceover 
Settings when you start, but I would start here and put down things like 1. 
Double tap on Speech, 2. Double tap on Voice etc.

Also, point out what it currently says, e.g. I use Samantha Enhanced so when I 
swipe to “Voice” after tapping on “Speech”, Voiceover says “Voice, Samantha 
Enhanced button”.

Lastly, let us know what you are trying to do, here are the 3 options you have:

1. Do you want to change your default voice from whatever it is now to Tom 
Enhanced without adding a second voice?

2. Do you want Tom Enhanced to be your default voice and have another voice 
available as a second option which you can choose with the language rotor?

3. Do you want another voice to be the default and have Tom Enhanced as a 
second voice which you can choose with the language rotor?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps 
voice doesn't change,

 

Thank you, we've done all that, and actually tom was already in there, so we 
weren't adding voices. Wayne was able to change the voice last month on one of 
the phones and even on that one we can't change it again to another voice. 
Thank you if anyone else knows what we could be missing.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:11 AM

Subject: RE: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps 
voice doesn't change,

 

I assume you somehow are missing a step. Are you changing the default voice or 
are you adding a second voice? If you are adding Tom as a second voice then 
after you have done so you need to turn the rotor to languages and flick up or 
down to select it. Otherwise maybe give Apple Accessibility a call and see if 
they can walk you through it step by step over the phone.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: need some more help with switching voices doing all the steps 
voice doesn't change,

 

This is so strange, Michelle, and, Barb, we did everything you both said to do, 
and it's troubling the voice isn't changing. If anyone has any idea what could 
be wrong, and what to do, please let me know. I'm also going to check on apple 
vis, of which I did get the same directions. I just want to see if there's any 
more information on there that might be helpful. Thank you again, Barb, and 
Michelle.

 

Arlene

- Original Message - 

From: Michelle Hurdt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: need help with switching voices

 

 

Hi,

 

Once I go to settings. I go to general, double tap on accessibility, then 
double tap on voiceover, double tap on speech, double tap  on voice, than 
double tap download button  next to Tom. Once Tom is downloaded double tap on 
Tom and double tap on top in hats. Then Tom should be speeking. I hope this 
helps you.

 

Take care,

Nichelle Hurdt 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 19, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Arlene  > wrote:

Thank you, but we all ready did that and it's not changing.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:38 PM

Subject: RE: need help with switching voices

 

External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
I would really like to find a great stereo microphone that will
connect via the lightning port to the iPhone, primarily for recording
videos, or audio interviews.
Some of the accompanying software for some of these  microphones, such
as some of the Irig models, does not seem to work so well, and some of
the hardware can only be used in conjunction with their accompanying
apps.
The cost is irrelevant, I really would like to find a microphone,
preferably with a way to monitor the output through a built in
headphone jack, that will do the best job possible for recording
stereo.
Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations.

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Re: The IOS Tips App

[Jim Fettgather]

Thanks for asking, I tried every conceivable gesture, all 1, 2, and 3 finger 
gestures. from right to left, and up and down, could not get anything to 
work.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The IOS Tips App

Did you try a 3-finger swipe from right to left or bottom to top?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The IOS Tips App

Hello.
I have found the beginning of many great articles in the Tips app.
However, they always say, 1 of 5, or 1 of 10, but there seems to be no way 
to advanced to the next page.
Double tap, double tap and hold, nothing works, and there seems to be no way 
to adjust that slider.

Anyone notice this behavior in IOS 11.2.5?
Thanks a lot.

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The IOS Tips App

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.
I have found the beginning of many great articles in the Tips app.
However, they always say, 1 of 5, or 1 of 10, but there seems to be no
way to advanced to the next page.
Double tap, double tap and hold, nothing works, and there seems to be
no way to adjust that slider.
Anyone notice this behavior in IOS 11.2.5?
Thanks a lot.

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Re: google assistant questions

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, just playing around with the Google Assistant app, it looks like you can 
ask all of the same questions  that you would ask a physical Google Home 
speaker such as the weather, or to set an alarm, or even to play music from 
Google play music if you are subscribed.

Having said that,  you definitely need a Google account to make all of this 
work.
Not difficult to set up, and of course it is free.


From: Louise Peyton 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: google assistant questions

Hello, all:

Can google assistant be used with the iPhone like siri?  If so, how do I set it 
up?  Do I need a google account which I don’t have currently?  Thanks in 
advance.

Louise Peyton

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Re: Attaching Photos to an Email

[Jim Fettgather]

Well, I closed the app out of the app switcher, relaunched photos, and there is 
that select button, I am very grateful for this response and for this new 
information regarding sending photos. This really helps a lot.
Thanks.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Attaching Photos to an Email

Jim, 
What version of iOS are you running?
When I open photos, and the photos tab is selected in the bottom left of the 
screen, and there are a list of photos on the screen, I have no edit button, 
but there is a select button in the upper right corner.
This is iOS 11.2.6.
Richard




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On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Thanks, Sieghard
  But This is odd, when I open  the first tab in Photos, which is simply called 
Photos, I find an Edit button, but not a Select button, so I must be opening 
something differently than what you have described.

  -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:09 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Attaching Photos to an Email

  This still works for me, but not as you describe it. As soon as you double 
tap on a photo so that the photo is displayed larger you do have options to 
share, delete etc., but in order to select multiple photos do the following:

  1. Open the photos app and select "All Photos" (or another album you may have
  2. At the top right double tap the "Select" button
  3. Now double tap all the photos you want to send by email, Voiceover will 
say "selected" each time you do this and if you check near the top it will tell 
you how many photos are selected
  4. As soon as you select a photo this way, you will find a few buttons near 
the bottom, one of them is Share, double tap it
  5. Select "Mail" from the share sheet and Mail will open with the photos 
attached, type the email address or name of the person to whom you want to send 
them, type a subject and, if you wish, text in the message body and then tap 
"Send" at the top right.

  Regards,
  Sieghard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Attaching Photos to an Email

  Hello to the list.

  There was once a way, that no longer seems to work, that I found quite handy 
to attach a photo, or rather several photos, to an email.
  I would open the photos app, and open one photo that I wanted to attach to an 
outgoing message.
  Then, I would tap the Share button.  By doing so, I could select more than 
one photo simply by double tapping it.
  So now, when I perform these steps, the second I tap that second photo, the 
iPhone with Voiceover becomes completely silent and locked up, so that I cannot 
activate the Message or Mail buttons in order to send the photo.  The phone 
becomes completely unresponsive.  I do realize that this may be an unorthodox 
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Re: Attaching Photos to an Email

[Jim Fettgather]

Thanks, Sieghard
But This is odd, when I open  the first tab in Photos, which is simply 
called Photos, I find an Edit button, but not a Select button, so I must be 
opening something differently than what you have described.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attaching Photos to an Email

This still works for me, but not as you describe it. As soon as you double 
tap on a photo so that the photo is displayed larger you do have options to 
share, delete etc., but in order to select multiple photos do the following:


1. Open the photos app and select "All Photos" (or another album you may 
have

2. At the top right double tap the "Select" button
3. Now double tap all the photos you want to send by email, Voiceover will 
say "selected" each time you do this and if you check near the top it will 
tell you how many photos are selected
4. As soon as you select a photo this way, you will find a few buttons near 
the bottom, one of them is Share, double tap it
5. Select "Mail" from the share sheet and Mail will open with the photos 
attached, type the email address or name of the person to whom you want to 
send them, type a subject and, if you wish, text in the message body and 
then tap "Send" at the top right.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Fettgather

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Attaching Photos to an Email

Hello to the list.

There was once a way, that no longer seems to work, that I found quite handy 
to attach a photo, or rather several photos, to an email.
I would open the photos app, and open one photo that I wanted to attach to 
an outgoing message.
Then, I would tap the Share button.  By doing so, I could select more than 
one photo simply by double tapping it.
So now, when I perform these steps, the second I tap that second photo, the 
iPhone with Voiceover becomes completely silent and locked up, so that I 
cannot activate the Message or Mail buttons in order to send the photo.  The 
phone becomes completely unresponsive.  I do realize that this may be an 
unorthodox way to attach photos to a mail message.
This used to work really really well, but now, I apparently need to use the 
alternative method of going into the mail app, choosing Edit, Insert Photo, 
then Choose, and so on, but with this method, you may only attach one photo 
at a time, so that it is more time consuming than the prior method.
I have tried this both on an iPhone 7 and an 8 Plus, with the latest 
updates.

Anyone else notice this strange and unwelcome change?.
Thanks a lot.

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Attaching Photos to an Email

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.

There was once a way, that no longer seems to work, that I found quite
handy to attach a photo, or rather several photos, to an email.
I would open the photos app, and open one photo that I wanted to
attach to an outgoing message.
Then, I would tap the Share button.  By doing so, I could select more
than one photo simply by double tapping it.
So now, when I perform these steps, the second I tap that second
photo, the iPhone with Voiceover becomes completely silent and locked
up, so that I cannot activate the Message or Mail buttons in order to
send the photo.  The phone becomes completely unresponsive.  I do
realize that this may be an unorthodox way to attach photos to a mail
message.
This used to work really really well, but now, I apparently need to
use the alternative method of going into the mail app, choosing Edit,
Insert Photo, then Choose, and so on, but with this method, you may
only attach one photo at a time, so that it is more time consuming
than the prior method.
I have tried this both on an iPhone 7 and an 8 Plus, with the latest updates.
Anyone else notice this strange and unwelcome change?.
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Re: Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

[Jim Fettgather]

I hope that this is not off topic, but you cannot possibly compare the sound 
of the Home Pod with the Sonos Play 1, or the Sonos Play 3.
It's simply not in the same category.Now, the Sonos play 5 speakers for $499 
each, if you want true stereo, sound great. but remember, once you move away 
from that sweet spot, right in front of the speakers, you lose the balance 
and the great sound, , while the home pod radiates sound everywhere in the 
room.
I am highly impressed with the Sonos Play 5's, but even more astounded and 
impressed with the versatility and amazing sound of the home pod.




-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

Evan,

I have never used Sonos.

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Evan Reese

Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

Better even than the Sonos speakers? Which a friend of mine, said he paid
$199 for each.
I was pretty impressed with those when I heard them during a visit over the 
holidays especially considering their size.

Evan

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

I promise I won't flood the list with these kinds of posts but I have to 
admit that I found myself doing something this evening that I haven't done 
in over 10 years.  I actually sat in my living room, with a hardcopy Braille 
novel and enjoyed listening to my music on my HomePod, in front of my 
fireplace.  The sound was so pleasant that I can actually see myself doing 
this on a regular basis.


During the past 10 years I've purchased over 10 Bluetooth speakers and none 
have compelled me to just sit and listen and read.  In fact, I ended up 
giving all of them away but not this time.


Regardless of the lack of AI skills, the sound alone is definitely worth the
400+ dollars I paid for the device.

Okay, no more unsolicited testimonials' from me.

My only regret is that I cannot have all of you, my brothers and sisters, 
here, so we can experience these beautiful moments, together.


Sincerely,

Mark


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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

[Jim Fettgather]

Please do not wait, put aside your misgivings, doubts, fears and 
trepedation, otherwise, your life will be filled with regrets and you will 
always be thinking of how life could have been and the opportunities you may 
have missed.
You can use Airplay from your phone to stream whichever music service you 
wish.
It may be two years, or even longer, before there is new hardware, so, you 
know you want one, you know you need one, get right over to that Apple store 
and pick one up before it's too late!

I have one, Airplay works just fine, the sound is phenomenal!



-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

Hello Everyone,

I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
does not have such a port.

Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
permit legacy-device attachments.

Thoughts?

Mark

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The Files App in 11.2 and Playing Music

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
I have been using the Files app to access various content in iCloud
drive, and it works quite well.  I have noticed however, that when
playing an audio file, there is a button labeled Media Time Line.
One would guess that this control would give you access to advancing
the audio file, but it seems to only pause the audio.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with this Media Time Line
control, found in the Files App when playing an audio file, and if can
be made to perform a useful action..
Thanks.

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Re: Purchasing a show episode

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.
The iTunes store has a couple hundred movies with audio description, but for 
some reason, any of the network TV shows, that have audio description do not 
carry over to the iTunes store.

This is highly unfortunate.



-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Purchasing a show episode

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, if I were to purchase an episode of a show from iTunes,
and it had audio description.

Would what I purchase come with the audio description?


Thank you,


Terri

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New iPhone 8, Not Receiving Notifications

[Jim Fettgather]

I am delighted with the new iPhone 8 plus acquired a couple of days ago, but
there is something amiss with notifications, I don't appear to be getting
any notifications, except for text messages, but none from the various news
outlets that I had previously set up on the prior phone.

I have already tried Reset Netwowrk Settings, so I must be missing
something.

Sorry if this has been previously discussed, I may have missed it, but any
tips would be great.

Thanks a lot.

 

 

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RE: very frustrated with Blindfold's Millionaire game: possible answers aren't spoken

[Jim Fettgather]

I've experienced the same silence when trying to pick an answer, so I wrote to 
the developer, we will see if they write back.
Many of the other blindfold games work very well.


-Original Message-
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Donna
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: very frustrated with Blindfold's Millionaire game: possible 
answers aren't spoken

This is the #1 reason I do not play Blindfold games;  the player loses coins 
when trying to trouble shoot what may be a bug in a game. 

I realize time is put into developing the Blindfold games. I have no problem 
paying for a game that the developer gets rid of bugs within a game in a timely 
manner. In my opinion, to purchase unlimited game play for most of the 
Blindfold games is Way over priced!

Donna
> 
> Has anyone op here tried Blindfold's Milionaire game? because here on a 5s, 
> the plssible answers aren't spoken back. I uninstalled.reinstalled, closed 
> the game from the App-switcher, but nothing! I don't know what else to try! 
> and to top things off, I'm without coins to if any solutions are given, I'm 
> unable to try! so...
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S
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RE: If messages are getting cut off especially like the "Closing Apps" in the App Launcher

[Jim Fettgather]

Scott, I am using an iPhone 7 plus. IOS 11.02.
Thanks.

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Scott Berry
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:52 PM
To: Vi Phone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: If messages are getting cut off especially like the "Closing Apps" 
in the App Launcher

Jim,

If you don’t mind me asking what version of phone are you on and I’ll get back 
with you.



> On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This sounds promising and possibly very helpful, but after turning on
> Assistive Touch, I have Customize Top Level menu, a setting called
> Idle  Opacity,  and Create New Gesture.  I cannot find a custom
> actions menu.
> 
> I wonder where it might be hidden?
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/10/17, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> This is extremely useful info, Scott.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Berry
>> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 12:28 PM
>> To: Vi Phone
>> Subject: If messages are getting cut off especially like the "Closing Apps"
>> in the App Launcher
>> 
>> Hello there everyone,
>> 
>> I was asked by an Apple employee to share with people.
>> 
>> If you have a problem where words are cut off when performing actions within
>> the Notification Center there is a remedy.  The remedy is as follows:
>> 
>> 1.  Please go to Settings/General/Accessibility.
>> 
>> 2.  Then got to Assisistive Touch and inside the Assistive Touch menu option
>> there is an On/Off toggle Switch it must be on.
>> 
>> 3.  Now while in the Assistive touch menu you may swipe to the right or use
>> the rotor to find the Headings rotor setting if that’s set within your rotor
>> settings under Voiceover. And find Custom Actions.
>> 
>> 4.  Under the Custom Actions heading you will find a setting which is a
>> button and it also says “None” which is fine.
>> 
>> 5.  Double tap on this button.
>> 
>> 6.  Under this button you will find a double tap time out and set it by
>> using the increase button or typing “0.40.
>> 
>> This allows Voiceover to have a little more time to speak when in the
>> Notification Center.  This may also be useful for single actions but I have
>> had no reason to change anything there.
>> 
>> called Double Tap
>> 
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Re: If messages are getting cut off especially like the "Closing Apps" in the App Launcher

[Jim Fettgather]

This sounds promising and possibly very helpful, but after turning on
Assistive Touch, I have Customize Top Level menu, a setting called
Idle  Opacity,  and Create New Gesture.  I cannot find a custom
actions menu.

I wonder where it might be hidden?



On 10/10/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> This is extremely useful info, Scott.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Berry
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 12:28 PM
> To: Vi Phone
> Subject: If messages are getting cut off especially like the "Closing Apps"
> in the App Launcher
>
> Hello there everyone,
>
> I was asked by an Apple employee to share with people.
>
> If you have a problem where words are cut off when performing actions within
> the Notification Center there is a remedy.  The remedy is as follows:
>
> 1.  Please go to Settings/General/Accessibility.
>
> 2.  Then got to Assisistive Touch and inside the Assistive Touch menu option
> there is an On/Off toggle Switch it must be on.
>
> 3.  Now while in the Assistive touch menu you may swipe to the right or use
> the rotor to find the Headings rotor setting if that’s set within your rotor
> settings under Voiceover. And find Custom Actions.
>
> 4.  Under the Custom Actions heading you will find a setting which is a
> button and it also says “None” which is fine.
>
> 5.  Double tap on this button.
>
> 6.  Under this button you will find a double tap time out and set it by
> using the increase button or typing “0.40.
>
> This allows Voiceover to have a little more time to speak when in the
> Notification Center.  This may also be useful for single actions but I have
> had no reason to change anything there.
>
>  called Double Tap
>
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Inaccurate Dictation, but only in the Messages App

[Jim Fettgather]

This problem, with my iPhone 7 plus,  is driving me to obsession and
distraction.
When dictating in Notes, Mail, an app called Threema, or any time
there is a text field, dictation is always close to 100% accurate.
But in messages, this is not the case, often, there are tons of
dictation errors which are a pain to edit and fix.
I have tried:
Toggling off and then back on dictation.
Toggling off and then back on Siri.
Reset Netwowrk settings
Hard reset with Power button and volume down button.
We have an iPhone 6 plus in the house, and these dictation errors do
not occur using that phone.
The inaccuracies do not happen every time, but when they do, which is
quite often, the dictation results are a complete mess.
When using Siri to send a message, inaccurate dictation does not
occur, but this is not my preferred method for dealing with messages.

Before I try Erasing all content and settings, and just setting up the
phone again, I am desperately seeking ideas, as I use this feature a
lot.
Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: playing youtube red on iphone

[Jim Fettgather]

There is an IOS app called YT music that works beautifully if you have
YouTube  red.

On 6/22/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
> The YouTube music app should do it I would think. Maybe even the regular
> YouTube app.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Larry McCreary 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for an app to play music from youtube red on iPhone.  I would
>> like to find a simple music player to download and play material.
>> Thanks much for any help.
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