Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread Donald L. Roberts
e that. Ok, 50 years of long cane availability is an age, > but worth noting it wasn't always so. > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM &

RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
the subject from now on. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CN

RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread Cristóbal
: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an image that represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s look to them. Rob, humanity

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread Kelly Pierce
rs of long cane availability is an > age, but worth noting it wasn't always so. > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: Apple

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when using a long cane in crowd

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, you can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front of you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so then walking in a

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-27 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Appreciate this description and definition, Thank you. - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities,

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Jewel
At the start of this thread, someone said that those who were complaining about the type of cane being used in the image would, really, have something to beef about if what was shown was those huge, clunky dark glasses that sometimes blind people are depicted as wearing. It is those huge,

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Pete Nalda
com> On Behalf Of > TaraPrakash > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET > > “This is not how most blind people travel, > particularly the most independent a

RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
com> On Behalf Of TaraPrakash Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET “This is not how most blind people travel, particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ particularly three people

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Richard Turner
to:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:30 AM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I'm glad Apple is going to put some accessibility items in the ever growing emo

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread TaraPrakash
“This is not how most blind people travel, particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ particularly three people that I know Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US The US is just one

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Jewel
AM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I'm glad Apple is going to put some accessibility items in the ever growing emojy category. As stated before, the general populous is not going to make buying decisions based off of cane emojys

RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Cristóbal
, March 26, 2018 2:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET You should ask ACB this question, not me. ACB leadership approved this controversial design. The inclusion of the blind emoji depends whether Apple stands behind its

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Kelly Pierce
n canes and dogs, and are super fun to use, plus they're free. >>> >>> Wayne >>> >>>> On 3/25/18, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote: >>>> Rob! It is true that I am short, but petite! I, regretably, am not! >>>> >>>> Jewe

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Gerardo Corripio
rter. I swear that, hardly, a day goes by when I don't have >>> to >>> stand on less and less >>> toe tip to reach shelves. >>> and Christopher! you don't know how short our streets are! so I might >>> not >>> have been exaggerating >>

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Kelly Pierce
mobility aids as such, soon now, and sorry I fell >> for >> the bait too. >> >> BobH. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jewel" <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, Mar

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-26 Thread Wayne Merritt
> > Jewel > -- > From: "'RobH.' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:22 AM > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabili

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Jewel
get off mobility aids as such, soon now, and sorry I fell for the bait too. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Jewel" <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people wit

RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread David Moore
, and never hit a person with my cane. Above the chest is not for me! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I love this comment. Some

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
, and sorry I fell for the bait too. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Jewel" <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I * used to be 5 feet:

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
gt; Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:06 AM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET Christopher, Perhaps you have not been following Jewel's post for a long time now. you don't grasp her usual tongue and cheek or brand

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Message - From: "Deidre Muccio" <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET Christopher, Perhaps you have not been following Jewel's post for a long

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Jewel
hen I am close, not still halfway down the street! >> It will be understood that I grew up in the era before the long cane, so my >> mobility education >> was >> with the 3 footer! >> >> Jewel >> >> -------------

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Deidre Muccio
ood that I grew up in the era before the long cane, so my >> mobility education was >> with the 3 footer! >> >> Jewel >> >> ------ >> From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Sunday

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ct: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I became suspicious when I noticed that the only blindness organization consulted by Apple in press reports was the American Council of the Blind. A sighted friend examined the emojis and found the canes appear to only extend to t

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-25 Thread Jewel
gt; Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:54 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET I became suspicious when I noticed that the only blindness organization consulted by Apple in press reports was the American Council of the B

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think the NFB holds Apple in disdain or is motivated by whether Apple donates to the NFB or not. The NFB has passed plenty of resolutions praising Apple, and on non-iPhone mailing lists that I';m on, the NFB is considered quite pro-Apple. Apple is also not perfect, so there are areas

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-24 Thread TaraPrakash
As an NFB member myself, I have found NFB’s disdain towards Apple unfortunate and opportunistic. They try to pass resolutions against Apple in their national conventions and sometimes do succeed despite opposition from the floor. They here is for the board who is not happy that apple does not

Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

2018-03-24 Thread Kelly Pierce
I became suspicious when I noticed that the only blindness organization consulted by Apple in press reports was the American Council of the Blind. A sighted friend examined the emojis and found the canes appear to only extend to the elbows of the blind people, who appear to be age 12. This cane