RE: Phone update question

2024-03-31 Thread Rob Armstrong
You should first take a backup of your current system just to be safe.  You can 
back up to iCloud.  But the better approach is to take an encrypted backup to a 
Windows computer or a Mac.  I have never had to restore from a backup, but I 
always take a backup before a major update to a new release.

You should probably have your phone plugged into the battery charger while 
doing the update.  Start the update when you are getting ready to go to bed.  
You will have to enter the pass code to begin the update.  After you enter the 
pass code, the update will happen without you having to do anything.

When I did the update a few weeks ago, an error occurred during the download of 
the new version.  There was an option to retry.  After I double tapped Retry, 
the update downloaded and installed without any more problem.

When the update finishes, it automatically shuts down and restarts the phone.  
It will be on the home screen.

Rob

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2024 1:02 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: Phone update question



I'm one of those people who update their phones later than most. This morning, 
I wanted to download an APP and discovered I'd have to have the latest version. 
Good reason to update from iOS 16. Is there a way to do this by having it 
happen overnight, instead of putting my phone out of commission during the day 
while the update is being installed? Thanks for any suggestions.





+Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

+Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-19 Thread davycuppens
Hi I will do that, I am a tester for Apple accessibility! J 
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Michael Irons
Verzonden: maandag 18 december 2023 15:56
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I also really like IOS17.2 AS WELL.  Apart from bard mobile being a
pain and giving me some issues, things are working very well.

On 12/18/23, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> Hey Mark,
>
> I’m glad that it went well for you. Much like you I have not had any show
> stopping bugs. It’s been pretty good so far.
>
> Ed W.
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
>> respective latest versions of the OS.
>>
>> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every
>> aspect
>> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
>> encountered a bug.
>>
>> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a
>> splendid
>> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
>> dare I say it, even TV OS.
>>
>> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
>> find a bug.
>>
>> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
>> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
>>
>> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the
>> latest
>> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
>>
>> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I
>> experienced,
>> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely
>> resolved.
>>
>> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
>> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
>>
>> Before installing the OS I:
>>
>> 1.
>> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the
>> latest
>> version of iTunes.
>>
>> 2.
>> Backed up the device to iCloud.
>>
>> 3.
>> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
>>
>> 4.
>> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
>>
>> 5.
>> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
>>
>> 6.
>> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.
>> This
>> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
>>
>> 7.
>> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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Re: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread Ed Worrell
Hey Mark,

I’m glad that it went well for you. Much like you I have not had any show 
stopping bugs. It’s been pretty good so far.

Ed W.


> On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
> dare I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
> find a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced,
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread M. Taylor
Very well stated, Richard, and thank you for posting such a gracious comment.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs.
I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some 
bugs."  This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and 
operating systems.  
When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience 
without immediately throwing cold water on it.
At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2.  

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread Richard Turner
Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs.
I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some 
bugs."  This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and 
operating systems.  
When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience 
without immediately throwing cold water on it.
At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2.  

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread Michael Irons
You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

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> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

2023-12-18 Thread davycuppens
Mark 

There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 

For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no feedback 
is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that and I am 
testing with them.
So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
will never bet he case, never ever!
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
Experience

Hello All,

Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
respective latest versions of the OS.

I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect of 
all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet encountered a 
bug.

And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid job 
with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare I say 
it, even TV OS.

I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find a 
bug.

In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've used 
since the feature was introduced many years ago.

I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest OS 
so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.

However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, when 
having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.

Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.

Before installing the OS I:

1.
Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
version of iTunes.

2.
Backed up the device to iCloud.

3.
Closed every app via the App Switcher.

4.
Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.

5.
Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.

6.
Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.

7.
Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).

Mark


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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Paula Pinder
Thank you. A factory reset it is then.

Best wishes

Paula

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Icin 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:54:17 PM
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Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

As I get feedback from the user base of 10 users of my app that have it 
installed on the phone, I can confirm that there are people with the same 
problem, as I have received similar feedback from 2-3 users for whom Apple’s 
voices don’t produce any sound (one seem to have more limited problem to just 
CarPlay and as such wouldn’t affect VoiceOver).

According to some recent reports, Apple suggests device restart and factory 
reset for non-reproducible problems that appear after the update. Unfortunately 
according to the information that I have received from this users, a simple 
restart doesn’t help.

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:06:15 PM UTC+2 chocPaula wrote:
Hi All

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot.

Best wishes

Paula

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
The email is actually accessibil...@apple.com

Considering the matter, I believe you're better off Colleen Apple.
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On Sep 21, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:


I'vbe tried all that. I've written to disabil...@apple.com so hopefully they 
will reply. Thanks for your suggestions.

Best wishes

Paula

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Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Thanks all for your messages.

I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried 
everything everyone suggested.

Best wishes

Paula

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First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE



Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



Paula

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Julian
Hi, I'm not sure if this is already been suggested. If you have access to a cited person for a few seconds, have them go in to voiceover settings and change the text to speech engine. I had this happen once while updating a clients phone. This is what fixed it. I used AIRA to help me navigate the screen and go in there and change the text to speech engine. Once I did that, Voiceover was happily talking again. Hope that helps.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 21, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:




I'vbe tried all that. I've written to disabil...@apple.com so hopefully they will reply. Thanks for your suggestions.


Best wishes


Paula



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Thanks all for your messages.


I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried everything everyone suggested.


Best wishes


Paula



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First this isn’t an android list. 
  Second I would just switch back to iOS. 
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who called his show have had good luck.
 

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Hi All

 


I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone?
 Does anyone have any suggestions? 


Thanks a lot.


 


Best wishes


 


Paula


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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Ivan Icin
As I get feedback from the user base of 10 users of my app that have it 
installed on the phone, I can confirm that there are people with the same 
problem, as I have received similar feedback from 2-3 users for whom 
Apple’s voices don’t produce any sound (one seem to have more limited 
problem to just CarPlay and as such wouldn’t affect VoiceOver). 

According to some recent reports, Apple suggests device restart and factory 
reset for non-reproducible problems that appear after the update. 
Unfortunately according to the information that I have received from this 
users, a simple restart doesn’t help. 

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:06:15 PM UTC+2 chocPaula wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It 
> plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android 
> Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I 
> could on the Iphone? Does anyone have any suggestions? 
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paula
>

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Paula Pinder
I'vbe tried all that. I've written to disabil...@apple.com so hopefully they 
will reply. Thanks for your suggestions.

Best wishes

Paula

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Thanks all for your messages.

I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried 
everything everyone suggested.

Best wishes

Paula

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Dennis 
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:23:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE


First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE



Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What happen if you ask Siri for the weather forecast? Is that getting read?
If so, have you told Siri "Turn off Voiceover", then wait 5 or so seconds, 
activate Siri and say "Turn on Voiceover".
If at that point you still don't hear Voiceover, do you have a wired headset 
you can plug into the Lightning port. Try that and see if you hear Voiceover on 
the headset.

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Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply.

I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory 
reset the phone.

Best wishes

Paula

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Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either 
speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the 
volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers 
which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start 
tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly 
become audible.

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On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:


First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE



Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



Paula

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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Paula, have you called Apple Accessibility or, if you have an Apple Store 
nearby, just go there.
I can assure you that updating to iOS 17 did not "break" your phone. Something 
happened which for some reason causes Voiceover not to speak, but I am 99.9% 
certain it can be fixed.

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Thanks all for your messages.

I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried 
everything everyone suggested.

Best wishes

Paula

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First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



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Pinder
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Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
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Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



Paula

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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Or, could be Mute is turned on? 

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Richard Turner
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Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either 
speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the 
volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers 
which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start 
tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly 
become audible. 


Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:





First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to 
iOS.  You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Paula Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

 

Hi All

 

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It 
plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung 
S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the 
Iphone? Does anyone have any suggestions? 

Thanks a lot.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Paula Pinder
Hi Alan

No I haven't called them but it sounds like it would be worth a try. Thanks for 
the suggestion and I'm glad they helped you.

Best wishes

Paula

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Paula,

I'm sorry if a factory reset is the only thing to get your iPhone talking 
again. Did you ever call Apple Accessibility and ask them to connect to your 
device to help with this issue. One time they helped me when VoiceOver volume 
got set to 0 when I was switching between the iPhone's external speaker and a 
connected Bluetooth speaker. This is one reason why I recommend that everyone 
keep a pair of wired Apple Earpods to connect when there are problems with 
VoiceOver or other audio issues.

You've stated that you've done everything suggested in this thread to no avail 
so I hope a factory reset makes things right.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 21, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Paula Pinder  wrote:


Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply.

I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory 
reset the phone.

Best wishes

Paula

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:32:19 PM
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Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either 
speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the 
volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers 
which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start 
tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly 
become audible.

Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)

On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:



First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE



Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



Paula

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Alan Lemly
Paula, I'm sorry if a factory reset is the only thing to get your iPhone talking again. Did you ever call Apple Accessibility and ask them to connect to your device to help with this issue. One time they helped me when VoiceOver volume got set to 0 when I was switching between the iPhone's external speaker and a connected Bluetooth speaker. This is one reason why I recommend that everyone keep a pair of wired Apple Earpods to connect when there are problems with VoiceOver or other audio issues. You've stated that you've done everything suggested in this thread to no avail so I hope a factory reset makes things right. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 21, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Paula Pinder  wrote:




Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply.


I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory reset the phone.


Best wishes


Paula


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Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers which will
 start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly become audible. 



Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:








 

First this isn’t an android list. 
  Second I would just switch back to iOS. 
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who called his show have had good luck.
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Paula Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

 

Hi All

 


I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone?
 Does anyone have any suggestions? 


Thanks a lot.


 


Best wishes


 


Paula


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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Paula Pinder
Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply.

I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory 
reset the phone.

Best wishes

Paula

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Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either 
speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the 
volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers 
which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start 
tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly 
become audible.

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On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:



First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



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Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



Paula

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers which will start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly become audible. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:First this isn’t an android list.    Second I would just switch back to iOS.  You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who called his show have had good luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula PinderSent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE Hi All I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks a lot. Best wishes Paula-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAGd_M16Oexuwr-H0fh6E8P5c8GyxKMMb0JNxvR%3DnG9KdEfE0dQ%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Paula Pinder
Thanks all for your messages.

I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried 
everything everyone suggested.

Best wishes

Paula

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First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.



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Pinder
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Hi All



I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.



Best wishes



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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-21 Thread Dennis Long
First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google 
accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who 
called his show have had good luck.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
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Hi All
 
I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions? 
Thanks a lot.
 
Best wishes
 
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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can ask Siri to "restart my iPhone."

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Hi did you re start your phone after updateing your phone? From Mich.

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Hi All

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Best wishes

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Paula, I've not yet upgraded to iOS 17 so this is just me thinking out loud. My experience with most major iOS updates since getting my first iPhone over 10 years ago is that audio issues abound for a day or two after the upgrade. Whether these issues relate to my TTS VoiceOver voice not speaking the same or some other audio issue such as pronunciation snafus, etc, I can't say. If you've tried the various other suggestions that have been made, I'd suggest asking Siri to set volume to 100 and see what happens. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 20, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:Hi AllThanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy even after trying a reset.Best wishesPaulaOn Wed, 20 Sept 2023, 21:18 Feliciano Godoy,  wrote:




Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset.
*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.
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Hi All


I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? Does anyone
 have any suggestions? 
Thanks a lot.


Best wishes


Paula


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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Lyne
Did you trY headset?

Lyne

> Le 20 sept. 2023 à 16:13, Cristóbal Muñoz  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Did you by any chance turn VO speech off? Three finger double tap toggles 
> that setting.
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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Interesting that a reset of all settings didn't work. How about you have 
someone change the voice synthesizer for voiceover.
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Hi All

Thanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy even 
after trying a reset.

Best wishes

Paula

On Wed, 20 Sept 2023, 21:18 Feliciano Godoy, 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I 
would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so 
if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset.
*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.
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Does anyone have any suggestions?
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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread James Bentley
I am getting in to the middle of this but try doing a 2 finger swipe up and 
very quickly start tapping your volume up buttton to see if you can turn up the 
voice over volume.

 

James B  

 

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Hi All

 

Thanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy even 
after trying a reset.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

 

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Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I 
would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so 
if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset. 

*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Paula Pinder
Hi All

Thanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy
even after trying a reset.

Best wishes

Paula

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> I would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone
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> *** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire
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> Hi All
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> plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android
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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I 
would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so 
if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset.
*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.
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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread michv
Hi did you re start your phone after updateing your phone? From Mich.

 

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Hi All

 

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions? 

Thanks a lot.

 

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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Mary Otten
 If you have your voiceover shortcut set to where you can just turn it off and on that way, you could do that. Otherwise, tell Siri to turn voiceover off. Then tell Siri to turn voiceover back on. That should do it.This sounds like a recurrence of the annoying now you see it now you don’t bug where periodically, VoiceOver speech just decides to go away. In my experience, getting back to the home screen and waiting a couple of seconds brings it back. That’s on iOS 16. Before, when it was worse, I used to have to turn voiceover off and back on. That always worked. If you have your voiceover shortcut set to where you can just turn it off and on that way, you could do that. Otherwise, tell Siri to turn VoiceOver off. Then tell Siri to turn voiceover back on. That should do it. Also, are you sure you didn’t turn speech off accidentally? Three finger double tap toggle between turning speech off and speech on.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 20, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:Hi AllI've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks a lot.Best wishesPaula



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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

2023-09-20 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Did you by any chance turn VO speech off? Three finger double tap toggles that 
setting.

 

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Hi All

 

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions? 

Thanks a lot.

 

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Re: Clubhouse update ruined the app

2023-09-09 Thread joseph hudson
I posted on another group earlier, said that I would take a look at issues. And 
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Re: Clubhouse update ruined the app

2023-09-09 Thread Brian Moore
        Hmmm, I got an update this morning and it still seems usable 
with voice over. Maybe I am not on the latest. don't know.



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I don’t think there’s a way for us to get anything done in that app anymore. 
All of the important controls are completely invisible to voiceover and they’ve 
even rented club deck nonfunctional. The worst part is they know and just don’t 
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Re: Clubhouse update ruined the app

2023-09-09 Thread The Evil Chocolate Cookie
I don’t think there’s a way for us to get anything done in that app anymore. 
All of the important controls are completely invisible to voiceover and they’ve 
even rented club deck nonfunctional. The worst part is they know and just don’t 
care.
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-07 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
It will be interesting to see what these other apps eventually produce. I use 
voice Vista often and have had very good results. I’m even thinking of getting 
Air Pods to use with them and I don’t normally prefer earbuds of any kind. I 
have a waterproof lanyard that I got from Amazon and using Voice Vista I have 
overcome a spot that I have strayed into and got lost consistently for three 
years. Now I go right past it every time. Ironically, I never tried the 
original app once when it was a Microsoft app. Before they released the open 
source into the wild.
Merv


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> Voice Vista works very well and the developer is updating it frequently.
> Thomas Frank
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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-07 Thread Thomas Frank
Voice Vista works very well and the developer is updating it frequently.
Thomas Frank
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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-06 Thread Richard Turner
Actually Andy, no. VoiceVista is one of at least three new apps using the Soundscape code from Microsoft. OpenScape and SoundScape For Everyone are the other two that are both in beta. I have both beta versions on my phone. Even Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:






It was my understanding that the Soundscape replacement is 
called VoiceVista.
 
Andy
 

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wrote:
  
No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the 
current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current 
build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app 
makes an official announcement,  no one knows.



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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-06 Thread Andy Baracco
It was my understanding that the Soundscape replacement is called VoiceVista.

Andy

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  From: Jody ianuzzi 
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  Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Soundscape update


  Hello Richard,


  Thank you for the update.


  JODY


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Weihenmayer


On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  
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No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta 
build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, 
there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official 
announcement,  no one knows.





Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)


  On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  
wrote:


  
  Hi everyone,


  Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come 
out of beta and soundscape for everyone?


  JODY


  To Boldly Go   




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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-06 Thread Jody ianuzzi
Hello Richard,Thank you for the update.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Aug 6, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official announcement,  no one knows.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Hi everyone,Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out of beta and soundscape for everyone?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik Weihenmayer



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Re: Soundscape update

2023-08-06 Thread Richard Turner
No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official announcement,  no one knows.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Hi everyone,Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out of beta and soundscape for everyone?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik Weihenmayer



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Re: SuperSense update

2023-05-03 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Yes, Richard I agree more empty promises!I could remove the app, but having payed no small sum of money to use it I feel that I have the right to comment on its development or rather its lack of it.Malcolm ParfittOn 3 May 2023, at 20:40, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, I could do that.Or, I could leave it there, and see if they ever do any truly substantial updates.And. Let them know, as they requested, how I feel about their app; which I have done.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:09 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: SuperSense update Then it would seem the solution is to uninstall the app, unsubscribe from their announcements and move on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:00 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: SuperSense update That’s it?  wow unreal. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:36 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: FW: SuperSense update I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such great things with these piddly updates.Here is what it says in today's update. "Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team  Richard, USA.  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/010801d97dee%242d754990%24885fdcb0%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/016c01d97df1%246badc180%2443094480%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565668451B4D7DFEBA0F6B2AC76C9%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: SuperSense update

2023-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I could do that.

Or, I could leave it there, and see if they ever do any truly substantial 
updates.

And. Let them know, as they requested, how I feel about their app; which I have 
done.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SuperSense update

 

Then it would seem the solution is to uninstall the app, unsubscribe from their 
announcements and move on.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: SuperSense update

 

That’s it?  wow unreal.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: FW: SuperSense update

 

I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such 
great things with these piddly updates.

Here is what it says in today's update.

 

"Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements 
to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug 
fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech <mailto:superse...@mediate.tech> . Best, 
Supersense Team

 

 

Richard, USA.

 

 

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RE: SuperSense update

2023-05-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Then it would seem the solution is to uninstall the app, unsubscribe from their 
announcements and move on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SuperSense update

That’s it?  wow unreal.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: SuperSense update

I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such 
great things with these piddly updates.
Here is what it says in today's update.

"Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements 
to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug 
fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech<mailto:superse...@mediate.tech>. Best, 
Supersense Team


Richard, USA.


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RE: SuperSense update

2023-05-03 Thread Dennis Long
That’s it?  wow unreal.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: SuperSense update

 

I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such 
great things with these piddly updates.

Here is what it says in today's update.

 

"Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements 
to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug 
fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech  . Best, 
Supersense Team

 

 

Richard, USA.

 

 

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Re: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

2023-02-03 Thread Esther Levegnale
I also like VoiceDream Scanner as well.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 10:30 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> I have a lot better luck with reading text with voice dream scanner, which 
> is a shame because that is a lot cheaper app.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello friends,
>> This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it 
>> said:
>> 
>> Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and are 
>> responding to them with the feature updates that have been in highest 
>> demand. We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense 
>> below: 1) Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a better user 
>> experience 2) Dynamic font size: Supersense is improved to be more 
>> accessible now. All text in the app are now font adjustable for our low 
>> vision users!  3) Minor bug fixes  More exciting news and features are on 
>> the way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the 
>> best solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by 
>> sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Happy 2023! The Supersense 
>> Team
>> 
>> For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates 
>> but they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!
>> 
>> I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!
>> 
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

2023-02-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For what I need the Seeing AI short text or in some cases the document channel 
seem to do very well and it's free.
Can't even remember when I last spend money on an app!


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I have a lot better luck with reading text with voice dream scanner, which is a 
shame because that is a lot cheaper app.

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> On Jan 31, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it said:
> 
> Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and 
> are responding to them with the feature updates that have been in 
> highest demand. We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to 
> Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a 
> better user experience 2) Dynamic font size: Supersense is improved to 
> be more accessible now. All text in the app are now font adjustable 
> for our low vision users!  3) Minor bug fixes  More exciting news and 
> features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to 
> provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know what you 
> think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to 
> superse...@mediate.tech. Happy 2023! The Supersense Team
> 
> For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates 
> but they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!
> 
> I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Mann
I have a lot better luck with reading text with voice dream scanner, which is a 
shame because that is a lot cheaper app.

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> On Jan 31, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it said:
> 
> Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and are 
> responding to them with the feature updates that have been in highest demand. 
> We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) 
> Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a better user experience 2) 
> Dynamic font size: Supersense is improved to be more accessible now. All text 
> in the app are now font adjustable for our low vision users!  3) Minor bug 
> fixes  More exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we 
> appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please 
> let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to 
> superse...@mediate.tech. Happy 2023! The Supersense Team
> 
> For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates 
> but they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!
> 
> I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

2023-01-31 Thread Dennis Long
I agree when are these big updates coming?  

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Parfitt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

Hello friends,
This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it said:

Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and are 
responding to them with the feature updates that have been in highest demand. 
We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) 
Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a better user experience 2) Dynamic 
font size: Supersense is improved to be more accessible now. All text in the 
app are now font adjustable for our low vision users!  3) Minor bug fixes  More 
exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any 
feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know what 
you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. 
Happy 2023! The Supersense Team

For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates but 
they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!

I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!


Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

2023-01-31 Thread Richard Turner
Agreed Malcolm. I feel sorry for anyone who was suckered into buying this app 
at full price based on the various promises. I'm even a little sad that I 
bought it at half price or a little under that. It is not worth even $10.



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> On Jan 31, 2023, at 1:58 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it said:
> 
> Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and are 
> responding to them with the feature updates that have been in highest demand. 
> We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) 
> Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a better user experience 2) 
> Dynamic font size: Supersense is improved to be more accessible now. All text 
> in the app are now font adjustable for our low vision users!  3) Minor bug 
> fixes  More exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we 
> appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please 
> let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to 
> superse...@mediate.tech. Happy 2023! The Supersense Team
> 
> For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates 
> but they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!
> 
> I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Ring Update

2023-01-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have no issues ending a call, of course if the screen locks during your call 
you may have to wake up the phone, but I have virtually no issues with iOS 16.2 
any more at this point.

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Subject: Ring Update

Hi all:
So for months the Ring app was broken with iOS 16 all builds. Worked fine in 
15. Well Ring updated the app to 5.5.50 and iOS 16.2 works great with it.
So Yay I moved to iOS 16.2. Well looks like Ring is the only thing that works. 
Gees. Voiceover rate is faster on a slower setting. Fine I can deal. Siri sucks 
and won’t respond the right way. Been there done that. Fine.. What I cannot 
deal with is when you  make a call, put phone to your ear, then pull it away, 
screen is black. You cannot end call, nor disable VO. Its awful.

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Re: Ring Update

2022-12-28 Thread Dacia Luck
That’s interesting, do you use the Ring app for the ring doorbell or just the alarm system? I have it for the alarm system, have iOS 16, and have never had a problem using the app. Even before the most recent update. I have an iPhone 13.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 28, 2022, at 3:29 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all:So for months the Ring app was broken with iOS 16 all builds. Worked fine in 15. Well Ring updated the app to 5.5.50 and iOS 16.2 works great with it.So Yay I moved to iOS 16.2. Well looks like Ring is the only thing that works. Gees. Voiceover rate is faster on a slower setting. Fine I can deal. Siri sucks and won’t respond the right way. Been there done that. Fine.. What I cannot deal with is when you  make a call, put phone to your ear, then pull it away, screen is black. You cannot end call, nor disable VO. Its awful. 



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Re: voiceclock update

2022-10-24 Thread Joney Owen
Hi all:Someone has probably already answered this, so I apologize if I’m repeating. I’m not getting all of my messages together at the moment. Voice clock is now playing nice with iOS. I have notifications turned on, but I don’t have it showing in the notificatio.  Notification center or on the lock screen or is a banner. It is giving me the voice responses as it always used to. And that’s nice. I didn’t like having to delete 20 tons of voiceover messages. :-) I hope that helps. Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 24, 2022, at 7:26 PM, B. J. Maynard  wrote:






hi,
 
You are correct I applolojise for posting slightly 
wrong information. Thank you Richard.
 
B. J. Maynard

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 6:20 
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  Subject: Re: voiceclock update
  
  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139Note, 
  in the app store, it is called VoiceOver Clock, but on your phone it says 
  VoiceClock I think. Here is the link.
  
  
  
  
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  On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:03 PM, B. J. Maynard 
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hi,I remember reading 
a while ago voiceclock stopped working with a  version of ios. I forget 
if it was 15 or 16. probly 15.  I just saw an update for it today and 
the update included  workes with IOS 16.  If you enjoyed this 
clock ap and the reminders it could give it now works with IOS 16. 
  Just thought some would like to know since I know a lot used 
 it including me. This is a free ap I beleave. I did not pay for it and 
just redownloaded it.Hope This 
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Re: voiceclock update

2022-10-24 Thread B. J. Maynard
hi,

You are correct I applolojise for posting slightly wrong information. Thank you 
Richard.

B. J. Maynard
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: voiceclock update




  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139Note, in the app 
store, it is called VoiceOver Clock, but on your phone it says VoiceClock I 
think. Here is the link.







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On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:03 PM, B. J. Maynard  wrote:


hi,

I remember reading a while ago voiceclock stopped working with a  version 
of ios. I forget if it was 15 or 16. probly 15.  I just saw an update for it 
today and the update included  workes with IOS 16.  If you enjoyed this clock 
ap and the reminders it could give it now works with IOS 16.   Just thought 
some would like to know since I know a lot used  it including me. This is a 
free ap I beleave. I did not pay for it and just redownloaded it.

Hope This helps,

B. J. Maynard


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Re: voiceclock update

2022-10-24 Thread Richard Turner

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139Note, in the app 
store, it is called VoiceOver Clock, but on your phone it says VoiceClock I 
think. Here is the link.




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> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:03 PM, B. J. Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I remember reading a while ago voiceclock stopped working with a  version of 
> ios. I forget if it was 15 or 16. probly 15.  I just saw an update for it 
> today and the update included  workes with IOS 16.  If you enjoyed this clock 
> ap and the reminders it could give it now works with IOS 16.   Just thought 
> some would like to know since I know a lot used  it including me. This is a 
> free ap I beleave. I did not pay for it and just redownloaded it.
> 
> Hope This helps,
> 
> B. J. Maynard
> 
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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-17 Thread Carolyn
Thanks, Lisa, that should help. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 7:51 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being at a 
very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is pressing the 
side button three times to turn VO off once the call is picked up at the other 
end, and then immediately press it three times to restart VO.  Usually VO will 
come back on at whatever volume I had it set to when I made the phone call.  
It's faster than trying to find the rotor and not being able to hear VO.


Hope this helps.


Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
> anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
> volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
> hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
> Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.
>
> I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so 
> that I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I 
> can fix it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
> your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a 
> bug but because of something on your phone.
> Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.
>
> I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
> Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
> volume has gotten turned very low.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover 
> in the background is way, way soft.
>
> Thanks, got headphones set.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My update woe for today.
>
> Hi,
> I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
> on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
> speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
> that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
> aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. 
> I would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
> anything. If anything, play with the different settings.
>
>
> Feliciano
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>
>
>   On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   
>
>   I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
> Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
> and it seemed better.
>
>   
>
>   So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
> Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
> got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the 

Re: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Lisa Belville
Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being 
at a very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is 
pressing the side button three times to turn VO off once the call is 
picked up at the other end, and then immediately press it three times to 
restart VO.  Usually VO will come back on at whatever volume I had it 
set to when I made the phone call.  It's faster than trying to find the 
rotor and not being able to hear VO.



Hope this helps.


Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft.

Thanks, got headphones set.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better.



So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.



She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing t

RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Carolyn
I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem. 

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on 

RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
For tech tips and updates: 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Carolyn
Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Carolyn
I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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Re: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.

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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:


I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with Bluetooth to 
my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, and it seemed 
better.

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. Jim 
tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and got a 
magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back on. That 
did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing the 
phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that I 
did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it.

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a problem 
for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is working 
now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone defaulted to 
Samantha.

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our landline. It 
rang, but, I could not answer it.

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to struggle to 
hear anything on the screen while on a call.

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16.


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RE: whatsapp update query

2022-05-28 Thread anthonyborg001
Hi Anna 

 

I updated the app from the app store and I followed the instructions you had 
sent me. 

 

Hth 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: 27 May 2022 21:35
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Subject: Re: whatsapp update query

 

Hi,

 

I don't think it's ever possible to delete an app from anywhere other than the 
App Store; it's just that apps can announce that an update is available so you 
can go to the store and download it.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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<mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

It was a genuine update because it happened when I opened the whatsapp. That’s 
why I decided to do it. But I did it from the app store. 

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 26 May 2022 18:57
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: whatsapp update query

 

What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
that I should update the app.

 

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To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: whatsapp update query

 

Hi 

I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
account. 

Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
Appstore please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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Re: whatsapp update query

2022-05-27 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I don't think it's ever possible to delete an app from anywhere other than the 
App Store; it's just that apps can announce that an update is available so you 
can go to the store and download it.

Best,
Anna


> On May 27, 2022, at 11:28 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> It was a genuine update because it happened when I opened the whatsapp. 
> That’s why I decided to do it. But I did it from the app store. 
>  
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> Subject: RE: whatsapp update query
>  
> What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
> being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
> actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
> that I should update the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: whatsapp update query
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> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account. 
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please? 
> Thanks in advance 
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RE: whatsapp update query

2022-05-27 Thread anthonyborg001
It was a genuine update because it happened when I opened the whatsapp. That’s 
why I decided to do it. But I did it from the app store. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 May 2022 18:57
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: whatsapp update query

 

What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
that I should update the app.

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: whatsapp update query

 

Hi 

I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
account. 

Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
Appstore please? 

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RE: whatsapp update query

2022-05-27 Thread anthonyborg001
Yes I did have that notice but everytime I was hit enter on the update, it 
wasn’t taking it. So I had to do it from the app store instead. But now the 
issue is resolved. 

 

 

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: 27 May 2022 15:15
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Subject: Re: whatsapp update query

 

Hi,

 

I had that type of notice with the Ten Percent Happier app a week or two ago, 
so it's definitely still possible to get a notice that an update is available 
when you open an app.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On May 26, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve seen this as well, but unless I misunderstood the vendor that maintains 
our apps, the stores no longer allow this, so this might be a thing of the past.

 

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To: VIPhone Mailing List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: whatsapp update query

 

Hi Sieghard and all,

 

I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If the 
message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email message, 
I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.

 

Best,

Anna

 






On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
that I should update the app.

 

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Subject: whatsapp update query

 

Hi 

I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
account.

Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
Appstore please?

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: whatsapp update query

2022-05-27 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I had that type of notice with the Ten Percent Happier app a week or two ago, 
so it's definitely still possible to get a notice that an update is available 
when you open an app.

Best,
Anna


> On May 26, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen this as well, but unless I misunderstood the vendor that maintains 
> our apps, the stores no longer allow this, so this might be a thing of the 
> past.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:59 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: whatsapp update query
>  
> Hi Sieghard and all,
>  
> I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If 
> the message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email 
> message, I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
> being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
> actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
> that I should update the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: whatsapp update query
>  
> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account.
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please?
> Thanks in advance 
>  
> Anthony 
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Re: whatsapp update query

2022-05-26 Thread Wendy Lin
I think my WhatsApp updates automatically, I’ll check again. I’m not sure if 
anyone else on here have noticed but now Voiceover only tells us how many 
groups we have in common with a contact and no longer tells us what groups 
we’re in together.

> On May 26, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
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> 
> I’ve seen this as well, but unless I misunderstood the vendor that maintains 
> our apps, the stores no longer allow this, so this might be a thing of the 
> past.
>  
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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>  
> Hi Sieghard and all,
>  
> I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If 
> the message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email 
> message, I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
> being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
> actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
> that I should update the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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> Subject: whatsapp update query
>  
> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account.
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please?
> Thanks in advance 
>  
> Anthony 
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RE: whatsapp update query

2022-05-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've seen this as well, but unless I misunderstood the vendor that maintains 
our apps, the stores no longer allow this, so this might be a thing of the past.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:59 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: whatsapp update query

Hi Sieghard and all,

I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If the 
message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email message, 
I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.

Best,
Anna



On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
actual app update. I don't recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
that I should update the app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: whatsapp update query

Hi
I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn't find my 
account.
Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
Appstore please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Re: whatsapp update query

2022-05-26 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Sieghard and all,

I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If the 
message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email message, 
I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.

Best,
Anna


> On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
> being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
> actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
> that I should update the app.
>  
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> anthonyborg...@gmail.com 
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>  
> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account.
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please?
> Thanks in advance 
>  
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RE: whatsapp update query

2022-05-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
that I should update the app.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: whatsapp update query

Hi
I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
account.
Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
Appstore please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Re: whatsapp update query

2022-05-26 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Anthony,

Triple-tap the App Store icon, and choose Updates. That will open the App Store 
on your account page. Touch the middle of the screen and flick down with 3 
fingers to refresh the page so all updates will be available.

HTH,
Anna


> On May 26, 2022, at 11:04 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account. 
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please? 
> Thanks in advance 
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Re: Supersense update

2022-04-28 Thread Shane Lowe
I'm sorry for the delay, I missed your message. I've pasted the
section about app updates below.

On Android:
• The document reader is now much better at handling pages with
multiple columns such as newspapers, magazines, and academic articles
• Quick read now works much more quickly and accurately
• Increased the efficiency and accuracy of guidance instructions for
the document reader
• We’re also working on being able to read non-Latin-based languages
in the offline quick read mode. Stay tuned for that!
On iOS, we’ve made the following changes.
• Supersense will now automatically set your currency based on
location. Note that you will still have to download new currencies if
you will be traveling.
• Supersense will now display a processing message while importing a
photo or pdf document
• If Supersense scans a document with no text, it will now inform you
instead of bringing up a blank document viewer
• Much more to come!

On 4/22/22, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Can you please send it to to the list
>
>
>
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>
>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>> I'm not sure why the release notes didn't contain specifics, I'm sorry
>> about that. I've sent a newsletter to be sent out this evening, and that
>> has specifics about those changes.
>> Also, manual capture is in the works. It's slated for May currently.
>>
>> All the best,
>>  Shane
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:

>>> SuperSense just had an update. It said there were UI changes? What UI
>>> changes?
>>> Every update promises big changes; but they seldom arrive.
>>> There are no detectable changes with VoiceOver.
>>> And, another annoying thing about the stupid way of having it
>>> automatically starting the last channel has finally pushed me over the
>>> edge.
>>> I stopped it from looking for bar codes, checked settings for changes;
>>> when I came back to the main screen it immediately was scanning for bar
>>> codes again.
>>> That is bloody ridiculous!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe
>>> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster
>>> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget
>>> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until
>>> it's too late."
>>>
>>> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica
>>> to Paul)
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Re: Supersense update

2022-04-22 Thread Dennis Long
Can you please send it to to the list



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I'm not sure why the release notes didn't contain specifics, I'm sorry about 
> that. I've sent a newsletter to be sent out this evening, and that has 
> specifics about those changes.
> Also, manual capture is in the works. It's slated for May currently. 
> 
> All the best,
>  Shane
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> SuperSense just had an update. It said there were UI changes? What UI 
>> changes? 
>> Every update promises big changes; but they seldom arrive.
>> There are no detectable changes with VoiceOver.
>> And, another annoying thing about the stupid way of having it automatically 
>> starting the last channel has finally pushed me over the edge.
>> I stopped it from looking for bar codes, checked settings for changes; when 
>> I came back to the main screen it immediately was scanning for bar codes 
>> again.
>> That is bloody ridiculous!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
>> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster 
>> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget 
>> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's 
>> too late."
>> 
>> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
>> Paul)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
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Re: Supersense update

2022-04-22 Thread Dennis Long
I agree with Richard 



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
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> Let me know if you didn't see the newsletter, and I can forward it to the 
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> 
> 
> All the best,
>  Shane
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> SuperSense just had an update. It said there were UI changes? What UI 
>> changes? 
>> Every update promises big changes; but they seldom arrive.
>> There are no detectable changes with VoiceOver.
>> And, another annoying thing about the stupid way of having it automatically 
>> starting the last channel has finally pushed me over the edge.
>> I stopped it from looking for bar codes, checked settings for changes; when 
>> I came back to the main screen it immediately was scanning for bar codes 
>> again.
>> That is bloody ridiculous!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
>> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster 
>> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget 
>> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's 
>> too late."
>> 
>> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
>> Paul)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
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Re: Supersense update

2022-04-22 Thread Shane Lowe
Let me know if you didn't see the newsletter, and I can forward it to the list.


All the best,
 Shane
 Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> SuperSense just had an update. It said there were UI changes? What UI 
> changes? 
> Every update promises big changes; but they seldom arrive.
> There are no detectable changes with VoiceOver.
> And, another annoying thing about the stupid way of having it automatically 
> starting the last channel has finally pushed me over the edge.
> I stopped it from looking for bar codes, checked settings for changes; when I 
> came back to the main screen it immediately was scanning for bar codes again.
> That is bloody ridiculous!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
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Re: Supersense update

2022-04-22 Thread Shane Lowe
Hi Richard,
I'm not sure why the release notes didn't contain specifics, I'm sorry about 
that. I've sent a newsletter to be sent out this evening, and that has 
specifics about those changes.
Also, manual capture is in the works. It's slated for May currently. 

All the best,
 Shane
 Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> SuperSense just had an update. It said there were UI changes? What UI 
> changes? 
> Every update promises big changes; but they seldom arrive.
> There are no detectable changes with VoiceOver.
> And, another annoying thing about the stupid way of having it automatically 
> starting the last channel has finally pushed me over the edge.
> I stopped it from looking for bar codes, checked settings for changes; when I 
> came back to the main screen it immediately was scanning for bar codes again.
> That is bloody ridiculous!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
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Re: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread Dan Yates
That’s correct, it is voice over clock that I was referring to. By the way, I 
found the place where I can change the frequency of the time being spoken. 
Thank goodness! When I first installed it, it was speaking the time every 
minute.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure they are talking about VoiceOver clock, which once installed, the 
> icon says Voice clock.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> literophi...@myself.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceClock update.
> 
> Hello,
> What exactly is the name of the app you guys have been talking about? 
> /Searching for VoiceClock in the Appstore, the two results that come up are 
> Voice Over clock and VoiceClock. The second one's price is $ 1.99 
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado.
> 
> "It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." 
> Paul Auster. "City of Glass"
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
> Owen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceClock update.
> 
> You can go into the settings and it has a spot to select what times your 
> clock speaks I have mine set to every half hour every 30 minutes. You have 
> your start and stop time. My start time is 12 AM my stop time is 12 AM. Hope 
> that helps 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>> 
>> The latest VoiceClock works just fine. Thank goodness. What you do is go 
>> into settings, notification, VoiceClock. Make sure that the notifications 
>> are set to immediate. Then make sure that the notification center is 
>> selected and that the other two lock screen and banner are not selected. And 
>> then it works just fine.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently 
>>> doing it every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for anyone’s help! 
>>> Dan
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it 
>>>> doesn’t support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not 
>>>> supported?
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>>> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>>>  escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an update available for the VoiceClock available that has 
>>>>> support for iOS15.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>> 
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RE: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread Richard Turner
I'm sure they are talking about VoiceOver clock, which once installed, the icon 
says Voice clock.  




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceClock update.

Hello,
What exactly is the name of the app you guys have been talking about? 
/Searching for VoiceClock in the Appstore, the two results that come up are 
Voice Over clock and VoiceClock. The second one's price is $ 1.99 

Best,
 Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceClock update.

You can go into the settings and it has a spot to select what times your clock 
speaks I have mine set to every half hour every 30 minutes. You have your start 
and stop time. My start time is 12 AM my stop time is 12 AM. Hope that helps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> The latest VoiceClock works just fine. Thank goodness. What you do is go 
> into settings, notification, VoiceClock. Make sure that the notifications are 
> set to immediate. Then make sure that the notification center is selected and 
> that the other two lock screen and banner are not selected. And then it works 
> just fine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently doing 
>> it every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for anyone’s help! 
>> Dan
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it 
>>> doesn’t support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not 
>>> supported?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>>> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>>  escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> There is an update available for the VoiceClock available that has 
>>>> support for iOS15.
>>>> 
>>>> I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
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RE: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread literophilus
Hello,
What exactly is the name of the app you guys have been talking about? 
/Searching for VoiceClock in the Appstore, the two results that come up are 
Voice Over clock and VoiceClock. The second one's price is $ 1.99 

Best,
 Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceClock update.

You can go into the settings and it has a spot to select what times your clock 
speaks I have mine set to every half hour every 30 minutes. You have your start 
and stop time. My start time is 12 AM my stop time is 12 AM. Hope that helps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> The latest VoiceClock works just fine. Thank goodness. What you do is go 
> into settings, notification, VoiceClock. Make sure that the notifications are 
> set to immediate. Then make sure that the notification center is selected and 
> that the other two lock screen and banner are not selected. And then it works 
> just fine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently doing 
>> it every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for anyone’s help! 
>> Dan
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it 
>>> doesn’t support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not 
>>> supported?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>>> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>>  escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> There is an update available for the VoiceClock available that has 
>>>> support for iOS15.
>>>> 
>>>> I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
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Re: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread Joney Owen
You can go into the settings and it has a spot to select what times your clock 
speaks I have mine set to every half hour every 30 minutes. You have your start 
and stop time. My start time is 12 AM my stop time is 12 AM. Hope that helps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> The latest VoiceClock works just fine. Thank goodness. What you do is go 
> into settings, notification, VoiceClock. Make sure that the notifications are 
> set to immediate. Then make sure that the notification center is selected and 
> that the other two lock screen and banner are not selected. And then it works 
> just fine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently doing 
>> it every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for anyone’s help! 
>> Dan
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it 
>>> doesn’t support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not 
>>> supported?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
 El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt 
  escribió:
 
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 support for iOS15.
 
 I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
 
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Re: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread Joney Owen
The latest VoiceClock works just fine. Thank goodness. What you do is go into 
settings, notification, VoiceClock. Make sure that the notifications are set to 
immediate. Then make sure that the notification center is selected and that the 
other two lock screen and banner are not selected. And then it works just fine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently doing 
> it every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?
> 
> 
> Thanks for anyone’s help! 
> Dan
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it doesn’t 
>> support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not supported?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> There is an update available for the VoiceClock available that has support 
>>> for iOS15.
>>> 
>>> I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-05 Thread Dan Yates
Just downloaded and need to adjust time speaking intervals, currently doing it 
every minute! How do i set for one hour intervals?


Thanks for anyone’s help! 
Dan
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it doesn’t 
> support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not supported?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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>> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt  
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>> There is an update available for the VoiceClock available that has support 
>> for iOS15.
>> 
>> I have just installed it but not yet tried it.Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: VoiceClock update.

2021-10-01 Thread Gerardo Corripio
How come then theversion we have continues to work with iOS15 if it doesn’t 
support it, while other clock apps don’t work even though not supported?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 1 oct 2021, a la(s) 6:12 a.m., Malcolm Parfitt  
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Re: iOS Update Affecting Apple Smart Battery Case

2021-06-13 Thread Joe Orozco
OK, it makes me feel better to have found you and another individual
who are seeing the same issue. Are we aware of a means to send this
problem up to Apple? I'm sure someone by now should have noticed the
issue, but I don't know if there's a way to log the problem. Thanks
for responding.--Joe

On 6/13/21, Julian  wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> I've been experiencing similar behavior as well with my iPhone SE 2020 and
> smart battery case. It seems to be intermittent, meaning that sometimes that
> happens some days it doesn't. I have not yet found any one thing that I can
> do to either trigger or fix it. Hopefully Apple addresses this soon. After
> all, that's the whole point of using their smart battery case over
> aftermarket products.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, ever since I updated to iOS 14.6, my phone seems to have trouble
>> syncing up with the Apple battery case. Whereas before the battery
>> would read 100% until the case itself was drained, it will now give a
>> percentage, say it’s charging, but in truth, it is draining my phone
>> battery. I thought it might be giving me a more accurate readout of
>> the state of the case, given it’s saying it’s charging, but no, when
>> it drops to 20%, I am alerted to the low battery. I removed the case,
>> reattached it, and at least yesterday, it seemed to work again, but
>> this morning it is back to doing the same thing. I have no reason to
>> believe the issue is with the case itself. When plugged in separate
>> from the phone, I still see the LED lights indicating juice power. Has
>> anyone else seen this? Any ideas?
>>
>> Joe
>>
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Re: iOS Update Affecting Apple Smart Battery Case

2021-06-13 Thread Julian
Hi Joe,

I've been experiencing similar behavior as well with my iPhone SE 2020 and 
smart battery case. It seems to be intermittent, meaning that sometimes that 
happens some days it doesn't. I have not yet found any one thing that I can do 
to either trigger or fix it. Hopefully Apple addresses this soon. After all, 
that's the whole point of using their smart battery case over aftermarket 
products.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi, ever since I updated to iOS 14.6, my phone seems to have trouble
> syncing up with the Apple battery case. Whereas before the battery
> would read 100% until the case itself was drained, it will now give a
> percentage, say it’s charging, but in truth, it is draining my phone
> battery. I thought it might be giving me a more accurate readout of
> the state of the case, given it’s saying it’s charging, but no, when
> it drops to 20%, I am alerted to the low battery. I removed the case,
> reattached it, and at least yesterday, it seemed to work again, but
> this morning it is back to doing the same thing. I have no reason to
> believe the issue is with the case itself. When plugged in separate
> from the phone, I still see the LED lights indicating juice power. Has
> anyone else seen this? Any ideas?
> 
> Joe
> 
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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-28 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Sieghard and list
That's exactly what I meant. Our data speed is so slow that this download took 
almost 30 minutes and that is why I like to hear the download percentage so 
that I know the process is still going on. For some reason I have never heard 
the percentage unles I go out of the software update and back again, maybe I 
have not waited long enough because the download is so slow.
Regards
Fanus


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone

Maybe it would show up for me as well, but I usually just start the process, do 
a scrub gesture to go back and then I open Software Update again and it's all 
there.

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Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:06 PM
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I have never had this problem. I do know that during the download process, it 
does take a while before the percentage shows up, for me about 10-15%. Same 
behavior for the installation, about 5-10% before the percentage & time are 
displayed. I’ve always chalked up the slight delay to the system gathering 
download time based on my wifi speed.

Donna   
> 
> Hello list
> When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not 
> hear the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on 
> "general" to go back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. 
> Then I can swipe to hear time and percentage. This is happening for 
> each update since I can remember, so I can not understand why on earth 
> Apple does not correct this after so many years. I notified them 
> several times without any success. Do others experience the same? This 
> iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this was the situation on every 
> phone.
> Regards
> Fanus
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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe it would show up for me as well, but I usually just start the process, do 
a scrub gesture to go back and then I open Software Update again and it's all 
there.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

I have never had this problem. I do know that during the download process, it 
does take a while before the percentage shows up, for me about 10-15%. Same 
behavior for the installation, about 5-10% before the percentage & time are 
displayed. I’ve always chalked up the slight delay to the system gathering 
download time based on my wifi speed.

Donna   
> 
> Hello list
> When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not 
> hear the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on 
> "general" to go back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. 
> Then I can swipe to hear time and percentage. This is happening for 
> each update since I can remember, so I can not understand why on earth 
> Apple does not correct this after so many years. I notified them 
> several times without any success. Do others experience the same? This 
> iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this was the situation on every 
> phone.
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
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Re: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Donna Casteen
I have never had this problem. I do know that during the download process, it 
does take a while before the percentage shows up, for me about 10-15%. Same 
behavior for the installation, about 5-10% before the percentage & time are 
displayed. I’ve always chalked up the slight delay to the system gathering 
download time based on my wifi speed.

Donna   
> 
> Hello list
> When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
> the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
> back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
> time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
> so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
> many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
> experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
> was the situation on every phone.
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Wayne Merritt
Now that someone mentioned it, I can also confirm this. It is
happening on my iPhone 11 and 2020SE. However, as Sieghard said, not
an inconvenience.

Wayne

On 4/27/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I have always had to go back and back into Software Update to get that
> percentage, a small inconvenience, but never enough of one for me to even
> bother trying to petition Apple to change this.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone
>
> Hello Richard
> I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and
> percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's
> requirements differ.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone
>
> You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the
> time, etc.
> For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.
> Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never
> found a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your
> phone processor.
> I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit
> Install; but if you do nothing, it just installs.
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> Hello list
> When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
> the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
> back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to
> hear
> time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can
> remember,
> so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
> many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
> experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
> was the situation on every phone.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have always had to go back and back into Software Update to get that 
percentage, a small inconvenience, but never enough of one for me to even 
bother trying to petition Apple to change this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone

Hello Richard
I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and 
percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's 
requirements differ.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc.
For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.
Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.
I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.


Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Carolyn
I prefer hearing percentage too. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone

Hello Richard

I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and 
percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's 
requirements differ.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

 

You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc. 

For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.

Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.

I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not 
hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to 
hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can 
remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after 
so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and 
this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Richard Turner
As does mine, by touching the top left most item, which states the version 
number followed by the time and percentage.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone

Hello Richard
I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and 
percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's 
requirements differ.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc.
For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.
Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.
I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>


On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Richard

I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and 
percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's 
requirements differ.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

 

You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc. 

For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.

Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.

I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Software update process on iPhone

2021-04-27 Thread Richard Turner
You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc.
For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.
Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.
I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.



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On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Supersense update today

2021-04-05 Thread Shane Lowe
Absolutely, I'll follow up with our developers Wednesday morning on these! :)

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Yes, the explore button makes sense, which is why I thought the other option
> should be there as well.
> Ind of related to my wish to not have it start automatically.
>
> If all the features were buttons rather than one starting by default then
> you could pick your task when you are ready for it.
> Or, having an option in settings to always start with X feature active...
>
> But yes, putting the Bar code info on the bar code screen will help.
>
> Thanks for being open to suggestions.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> Hey Richard,
> Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into it.
> Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient, and
> logical, from the barcode screen itself.
> Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily switch to
> that mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select features button in the
> bottom right corner, except for exploration options.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
>
> On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Shane,
>> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
>> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label
>> area; why is it buried in settings?
>> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap
>> on Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
>> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
>> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems
>> like it is always in the upper right corner.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
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RE: Supersense update today

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, the explore button makes sense, which is why I thought the other option 
should be there as well.
Ind of related to my wish to not have it start automatically.

If all the features were buttons rather than one starting by default then you 
could pick your task when you are ready for it.
Or, having an option in settings to always start with X feature active...

But yes, putting the Bar code info on the bar code screen will help.

Thanks for being open to suggestions.
 


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense update today

Hey Richard,
Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into it. 
Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient, and logical, 
from the barcode screen itself.
Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily switch to that 
mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select features button in the bottom 
right corner, except for exploration options.

I hope this helps!


On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Shane,
> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label 
> area; why is it buried in settings?
> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap 
> on Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems 
> like it is always in the upper right corner.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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Re: Supersense update today

2021-04-05 Thread Shane Lowe
Hey Richard,
Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into
it. Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient,
and logical, from the barcode screen itself.
Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily
switch to that mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select
features button in the bottom right corner, except for exploration
options.

I hope this helps!


On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Shane,
> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label area; why
> is it buried in settings?
> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap on
> Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems like it
> is always in the upper right corner.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
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> It has been a while since this device has come out. I wondered if those of
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