RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-08 Thread pdllogan77
This worked for me ..  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi Sieghard,

I saw on another thread that some people fixed the problem by changing Siri's 
input language and then changing it back. Interesting that that worked for 
them. It's certainly an easier thing to try than updating the phone.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> That is interesting, I have a few shortcuts as well, my problem is that when 
> I want to use them half the time I forgot what I recorded as a phrase to 
> trigger them!
> I'll have to do some testing and see if they don't work on my new iPhone 8 
> which still has the Beta profile on it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:23 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
> I rolled the iPad back to iOS 12.1 on Tuesday to see if I would still have 
> the problem with Siri shortcuts. I didn't. So on Wednesday when iOS 12.1.1 
> came out, I installed it on the iPad and restored my backup, and Siri 
> shortcuts still worked. They weren't working on my phone, so I decided to 
> remove the provisioning profile and load iOS 12.1.1 and see if the shortcuts 
> problem would go away. It did. I probably wouldn't have deleted the 
> provisioning profile except that I really wanted to fix the shortcuts problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> 
>> Do you mean you deleted the provisioning profile and went back to regular 
>> iOS updates? I was also thinking to do so, what was your reasoning?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 1:51 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Hi Jen and all,
>> 
>> I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
>> shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
>>> on Saturday with an update.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> HI Anna,
>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>>> Dresner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was 
>>> a beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the 
>>> guy I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and 
>>> then reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>>> get the person Rich

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-08 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Sieghard,

I saw on another thread that some people fixed the problem by changing Siri's 
input language and then changing it back. Interesting that that worked for 
them. It's certainly an easier thing to try than updating the phone.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> That is interesting, I have a few shortcuts as well, my problem is that when 
> I want to use them half the time I forgot what I recorded as a phrase to 
> trigger them!
> I'll have to do some testing and see if they don't work on my new iPhone 8 
> which still has the Beta profile on it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:23 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
> I rolled the iPad back to iOS 12.1 on Tuesday to see if I would still have 
> the problem with Siri shortcuts. I didn't. So on Wednesday when iOS 12.1.1 
> came out, I installed it on the iPad and restored my backup, and Siri 
> shortcuts still worked. They weren't working on my phone, so I decided to 
> remove the provisioning profile and load iOS 12.1.1 and see if the shortcuts 
> problem would go away. It did. I probably wouldn't have deleted the 
> provisioning profile except that I really wanted to fix the shortcuts problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> 
>> Do you mean you deleted the provisioning profile and went back to regular 
>> iOS updates? I was also thinking to do so, what was your reasoning?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 1:51 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Hi Jen and all,
>> 
>> I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
>> shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
>>> on Saturday with an update.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> HI Anna,
>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>>> Dresner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was 
>>> a beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the 
>>> guy I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and 
>>> then reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>>> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
>>> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out 
>>> what's going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention 
>>> that I know 

RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Anna,

That is interesting, I have a few shortcuts as well, my problem is that when I 
want to use them half the time I forgot what I recorded as a phrase to trigger 
them!
I'll have to do some testing and see if they don't work on my new iPhone 8 
which still has the Beta profile on it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:23 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi Sieghard,

I rolled the iPad back to iOS 12.1 on Tuesday to see if I would still have the 
problem with Siri shortcuts. I didn't. So on Wednesday when iOS 12.1.1 came 
out, I installed it on the iPad and restored my backup, and Siri shortcuts 
still worked. They weren't working on my phone, so I decided to remove the 
provisioning profile and load iOS 12.1.1 and see if the shortcuts problem would 
go away. It did. I probably wouldn't have deleted the provisioning profile 
except that I really wanted to fix the shortcuts problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> Do you mean you deleted the provisioning profile and went back to regular iOS 
> updates? I was also thinking to do so, what was your reasoning?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi Jen and all,
> 
> I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
> shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
>> 
>> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
>> on Saturday with an update.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> HI Anna,
>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
>> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
>> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
>> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
>> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
>> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
>> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gerardo,
>>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> 
>>

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-07 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Sieghard,

I rolled the iPad back to iOS 12.1 on Tuesday to see if I would still have the 
problem with Siri shortcuts. I didn't. So on Wednesday when iOS 12.1.1 came 
out, I installed it on the iPad and restored my backup, and Siri shortcuts 
still worked. They weren't working on my phone, so I decided to remove the 
provisioning profile and load iOS 12.1.1 and see if the shortcuts problem would 
go away. It did. I probably wouldn't have deleted the provisioning profile 
except that I really wanted to fix the shortcuts problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> Do you mean you deleted the provisioning profile and went back to regular iOS 
> updates? I was also thinking to do so, what was your reasoning?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi Jen and all,
> 
> I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
> shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
>> 
>> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
>> on Saturday with an update.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> HI Anna,
>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
>> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
>> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
>> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
>> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
>> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
>> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gerardo,
>>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> I put this question 

RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Anna,

Do you mean you deleted the provisioning profile and went back to regular iOS 
updates? I was also thinking to do so, what was your reasoning?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 1:51 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi Jen and all,

I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
> 
> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
> on Saturday with an update.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> HI Anna,
> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
> comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Gerardo,
>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>>> 
>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary,
>>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. 
>>>>> I would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are 
>>>>> clueless that something has gone very wrong.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Mary Otten
Hopefully, they will all come back eventually. There are still people who have 
never had the problem. That’s when I don’t understand.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> First, given the list of bugs, it is almost like they rebuilt the app.
> I have some My Tuner Radio shortcuts working. I have one Pandora shortcut 
> working and one that doesn't. They all worked prior to this month.
> So, maybe they will all work eventually, or not. It almost isn't worth it.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 3:50 PM, "kellmast...@gmail.com"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Shortcuts app was updated yesterday.  Notice #2 under bug fixes.  Here 
>> are the fixes from Shortcuts app release notes - Apple Support at:
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT209087data=02%7C01%7C%7C9a504f7d0fef4afa49fc08d65bd59aad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636797370307407914sdata=N72KjBPq1OJ5oijnKxfG4taZRq7EEsSd8nMNCTeo1TA%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> What's new in Shortcuts 2.1.2
>> list of 2 items
>> • Added the Post to Tumblr action
>> • The Get Time Between Dates action can now count the number of months 
>> between two dates
>> list end
>> 
>> Bug fixes
>> list of 14 items
>> • Fixed an issue where the screen describing which apps and services are 
>> used by a shortcut may not appear when downloading a shortcut
>> • Fixed an issue that caused shortcuts with the Open App or Play Sound 
>> actions to fail when Siri is used to run the shortcuts
>> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts with Repeat with Each actions may freeze 
>> when they're run from the widget or Library 
>> • Fixed an issue where the Phone Number action may not understand phone 
>> numbers that contain commas (pauses) or have long extension codes
>> • Fixed an issue where the Show Directions action may not work when it's run 
>> from the Shortcuts Today View widget on the Lock screen
>> • Fixed an issue where the Add New Reminder action doesn't work when a time 
>> or location isn't entered
>> • Fixed an issue where the Send Payment action may not appear to finish when 
>> making Apple Pay Cash payments
>> • Fixed an issue where the Ask for Input action’s default answer field for 
>> dates wouldn’t support 24-hour time
>> • Fixed an issue where the Get Name of Emoji action showed the emoji name in 
>> English when the device is set to another language
>> • Fixed an issue where some shortcuts may show an error message when they're 
>> run from Search
>> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts may fail to download web pages with long 
>> Unicode titles
>> • Fixed an issue where the Run Editorial Workflow action doesn't pass a 
>> result
>> • iCloud sync improvements
>> • Localization improvements
>> list end
>> 
>> Kelly Hill
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Well, this is really weird. I now have Shortcuts working on one device and 
>> not on the other. Go figure. As of this morning, they weren’t working at 
>> all. But I just tried them again on my iPhone XR, and to my surprise they 
>> worked. But no joy on the iPhone 7 Plus.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
>>>> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>>>>  escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>>>>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple 
>>>>> fixes this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>>

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Richard Turner
First, given the list of bugs, it is almost like they rebuilt the app.
I have some My Tuner Radio shortcuts working. I have one Pandora shortcut 
working and one that doesn't. They all worked prior to this month.
So, maybe they will all work eventually, or not. It almost isn't worth it.
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 3:50 PM, "kellmast...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> The Shortcuts app was updated yesterday.  Notice #2 under bug fixes.  Here 
> are the fixes from Shortcuts app release notes - Apple Support at:
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT209087data=02%7C01%7C%7C9a504f7d0fef4afa49fc08d65bd59aad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636797370307407914sdata=N72KjBPq1OJ5oijnKxfG4taZRq7EEsSd8nMNCTeo1TA%3Dreserved=0
> 
> What's new in Shortcuts 2.1.2
> list of 2 items
> • Added the Post to Tumblr action
> • The Get Time Between Dates action can now count the number of months 
> between two dates
> list end
> 
> Bug fixes
> list of 14 items
> • Fixed an issue where the screen describing which apps and services are used 
> by a shortcut may not appear when downloading a shortcut
> • Fixed an issue that caused shortcuts with the Open App or Play Sound 
> actions to fail when Siri is used to run the shortcuts
> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts with Repeat with Each actions may freeze 
> when they're run from the widget or Library 
> • Fixed an issue where the Phone Number action may not understand phone 
> numbers that contain commas (pauses) or have long extension codes
> • Fixed an issue where the Show Directions action may not work when it's run 
> from the Shortcuts Today View widget on the Lock screen
> • Fixed an issue where the Add New Reminder action doesn't work when a time 
> or location isn't entered
> • Fixed an issue where the Send Payment action may not appear to finish when 
> making Apple Pay Cash payments
> • Fixed an issue where the Ask for Input action’s default answer field for 
> dates wouldn’t support 24-hour time
> • Fixed an issue where the Get Name of Emoji action showed the emoji name in 
> English when the device is set to another language
> • Fixed an issue where some shortcuts may show an error message when they're 
> run from Search
> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts may fail to download web pages with long 
> Unicode titles
> • Fixed an issue where the Run Editorial Workflow action doesn't pass a result
> • iCloud sync improvements
> • Localization improvements
> list end
> 
> Kelly Hill
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Well, this is really weird. I now have Shortcuts working on one device and 
> not on the other. Go figure. As of this morning, they weren’t working at all. 
> But I just tried them again on my iPhone XR, and to my surprise they worked. 
> But no joy on the iPhone 7 Plus.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
>>> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>>>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple 
>>>> fixes this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Gail
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI Anna,
>>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>>>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets 
>>>> fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>&g

RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread kellmaster1
The Shortcuts app was updated yesterday.  Notice #2 under bug fixes.  Here are 
the fixes from Shortcuts app release notes - Apple Support at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209087

What's new in Shortcuts 2.1.2
list of 2 items
• Added the Post to Tumblr action
• The Get Time Between Dates action can now count the number of months between 
two dates
list end

Bug fixes
list of 14 items
• Fixed an issue where the screen describing which apps and services are used 
by a shortcut may not appear when downloading a shortcut
• Fixed an issue that caused shortcuts with the Open App or Play Sound actions 
to fail when Siri is used to run the shortcuts
• Fixed an issue where shortcuts with Repeat with Each actions may freeze when 
they're run from the widget or Library 
• Fixed an issue where the Phone Number action may not understand phone numbers 
that contain commas (pauses) or have long extension codes
• Fixed an issue where the Show Directions action may not work when it's run 
from the Shortcuts Today View widget on the Lock screen
• Fixed an issue where the Add New Reminder action doesn't work when a time or 
location isn't entered
• Fixed an issue where the Send Payment action may not appear to finish when 
making Apple Pay Cash payments
• Fixed an issue where the Ask for Input action’s default answer field for 
dates wouldn’t support 24-hour time
• Fixed an issue where the Get Name of Emoji action showed the emoji name in 
English when the device is set to another language
• Fixed an issue where some shortcuts may show an error message when they're 
run from Search
• Fixed an issue where shortcuts may fail to download web pages with long 
Unicode titles
• Fixed an issue where the Run Editorial Workflow action doesn't pass a result
• iCloud sync improvements
• Localization improvements
list end

Kelly Hill

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Well, this is really weird. I now have Shortcuts working on one device and not 
on the other. Go figure. As of this morning, they weren’t working at all. But I 
just tried them again on my iPhone XR, and to my surprise they worked. But no 
joy on the iPhone 7 Plus.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
>> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>> 
>>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple 
>>> fixes this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>> 
>>> Gail
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI Anna,
>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>>> Dresner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was 
>>> a beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the 
>>> guy I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and 
>>> then reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>>> and everything worked normally both

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Mary Otten
Well, this is really weird. I now have Shortcuts working on one device and not 
on the other. Go figure. As of this morning, they weren’t working at all. But I 
just tried them again on my iPhone XR, and to my surprise they worked. But no 
joy on the iPhone 7 Plus.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
>> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>> 
>>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple 
>>> fixes this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>> 
>>> Gail
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI Anna,
>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>>> Dresner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was 
>>> a beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the 
>>> guy I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and 
>>> then reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>>> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
>>> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out 
>>> what's going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention 
>>> that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Gerardo,
>>>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>>>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>>>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>>>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied tha

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Jennie Facer
Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>  escribió:
> 
>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>> 
>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>> 
>> Gail
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> HI Anna,
>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call 
>> it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
>> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
>> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
>> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
>> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
>> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
>> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
>> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
>> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
>> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
>> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
>> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
>> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
>> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gerardo,
>>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>>>> yesterday, maybe it

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-06 Thread Gerardo Corripio
After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. Apple 
hurry up and see what’s going on!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
 escribió:

> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
> 
> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
> 
> Gail
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> HI Anna,
> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
> comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Gerardo,
>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>>> 
>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary,
>>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. 
>>>>> I would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are 
>>>>> clueless that something has gone very wrong.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-05 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Jen and all,

I updated my iPhone that was running beta software to 12.1.1, and Siri 
shortcuts are now working fine. So I would suggest trying that.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Jennie  wrote:
> 
> I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me 
> on Saturday with an update.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> HI Anna,
> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
> comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the 
> same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that 
> was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a 
> beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy 
> I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then 
> reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a 
> shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, 
> and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device 
> back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked 
> normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't 
> get the person Richard got. Most people there should be able to walk you 
> through sending in the diagnostic information they need to figure out what's 
> going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta bug and will mention that I 
> know of people running iOS 12.1 who are having the problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Gerardo,
>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part 
>> of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>>> 
>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary,
>>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. 
>>>>> I would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are 
>>>>> clueless that something has gone very wrong.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>&

RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-05 Thread Jennie
I also just reported it to Apple Accessibility and he said he would call me on 
Saturday with an update.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

HI Anna,
My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.

Thanks,
Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi everyone,

I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts worked 
fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the same 
problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that was 
running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a beta 
issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy I spoke 
with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then reset network 
settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a shortcut with Siri on 
his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, and everything worked 
normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device back to iOS 12.1. I did 
that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked normally. I would suggest calling 
Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't get the person Richard got. Most 
people there should be able to walk you through sending in the diagnostic 
information they need to figure out what's going on. I'm also going to report 
it as a beta bug and will mention that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who 
are having the problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerardo,
> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the United 
> States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part of me is 
> really ticked that Apple messed this up.
> I hope it continues to work for you.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
>> latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>> 
>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I 
>>>> would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless 
>>>> that something has gone very wrong.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi richard,
>>>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
>>>>> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
>>>>> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
>>>>> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
>>>>> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
>>>>> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>&

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-05 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone
Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes this. 
I have an SE with iOS 12.1.

Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.

Gail

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

HI Anna,
My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.

Thanks,
Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi everyone,

I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts worked 
fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the same 
problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that was 
running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a beta 
issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy I spoke 
with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then reset network 
settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a shortcut with Siri on 
his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, and everything worked 
normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device back to iOS 12.1. I did 
that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked normally. I would suggest calling 
Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't get the person Richard got. Most 
people there should be able to walk you through sending in the diagnostic 
information they need to figure out what's going on. I'm also going to report 
it as a beta bug and will mention that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who 
are having the problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerardo,
> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the United 
> States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part of me is 
> really ticked that Apple messed this up.
> I hope it continues to work for you.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
>> latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>> 
>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I 
>>>> would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless 
>>>> that something has gone very wrong.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi richard,
>>>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
>>>>> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
>>>>> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
>>>>> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
>>>>> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
>>>>> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>

RE: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Richard Turner
HI Anna,
My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to call it 
comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it gets fixed.

Thanks,
Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

Hi everyone,

I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts worked 
fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the same 
problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that was 
running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a beta 
issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy I spoke 
with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then reset network 
settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a shortcut with Siri on 
his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, and everything worked 
normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device back to iOS 12.1. I did 
that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked normally. I would suggest calling 
Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't get the person Richard got. Most 
people there should be able to walk you through sending in the diagnostic 
information they need to figure out what's going on. I'm also going to report 
it as a beta bug and will mention that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who 
are having the problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerardo,
> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the United 
> States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part of me is 
> really ticked that Apple messed this up.
> I hope it continues to work for you.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
>> latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>> 
>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>>> ago according to the app store.
>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I 
>>>> would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless 
>>>> that something has gone very wrong.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi richard,
>>>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
>>>>> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
>>>>> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
>>>>> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
>>>>> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
>>>>> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
>>>>>

Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Mary Otten
The guy on the other list who reported before that the short cuts were working 
has just reported that they stop working after he rebooted his phone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 5:23 PM, 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> The short cuts are also still working for me and I am in Colorado.
> 
> Gail. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who doesn’t 
> live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for him. Thus 
> far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that other list. 
> This is very strange.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks ago 
>> according to the app store.
>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
>> maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would 
>> encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that 
>> something has gone very wrong.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi richard,
>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
>>> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
>>> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
>>> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
>>> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
>>> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
 working since iOS 12.1.
 She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
 rerecording a phrase.
 I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
 bad results.
 
 They worked fine in iOS 12. 
 I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are 
 ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant 
 people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
 VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
 I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
 experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
 please share.
 Richard
 
 
 
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 books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone
The short cuts are also still working for me and I am in Colorado.

Gail. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who doesn’t 
live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for him. Thus far, 
that is the only useful response I have gotten from that other list. This is 
very strange.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks ago 
> according to the app store.
> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
> maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would 
> encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that 
> something has gone very wrong.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did 
>> work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it 
>> is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either, 
>> because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work. 
>> Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been 
>> all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
>>> working since iOS 12.1.
>>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
>>> rerecording a phrase.
>>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
>>> bad results.
>>> 
>>> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
>>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are ones 
>>> we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant people 
>>> and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
>>> VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
>>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
>>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
>>> please share.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi everyone,

I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts worked 
fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had the same 
problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad that was 
running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed it was a beta 
issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, and the guy I spoke 
with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned off and then reset network 
settings. None of that helped. He also tried accessing a shortcut with Siri on 
his device with VoiceOver off and with VoiceOver on, and everything worked 
normally both times. So he asked me to roll a device back to iOS 12.1. I did 
that with my iPad, and Siri shortcuts worked normally. I would suggest calling 
Apple Accessibility and hoping you won't get the person Richard got. Most 
people there should be able to walk you through sending in the diagnostic 
information they need to figure out what's going on. I'm also going to report 
it as a beta bug and will mention that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who 
are having the problem.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerardo,
> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the United 
> States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part of me is 
> really ticked that Apple messed this up.
> I hope it continues to work for you.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
>> latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>> 
>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>>> other list. This is very strange.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Mary,
 I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
 ago according to the app store.
 So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
 yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I 
 would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless 
 that something has gone very wrong.
 Richard
 
 
 
 "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
 books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
 
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
>> working since iOS 12.1.
>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
>> rerecording a phrase.
>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the 
>> same bad results.
>> 
>> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are 
>> ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant 
>> people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
>> VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
>> please share.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Richard Turner


Gerardo,
Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the United 
States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while part of me is 
really ticked that Apple messed this up.
I hope it continues to work for you.
Richard



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which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
> latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:
> 
>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for 
>> him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that 
>> other list. This is very strange.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks 
>>> ago according to the app store.
>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
>>> maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would 
>>> encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that 
>>> something has gone very wrong.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi richard,
 Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
 voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
 did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
 what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
 either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
 doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
 problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
> working since iOS 12.1.
> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
> rerecording a phrase.
> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
> bad results.
> 
> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are 
> ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant 
> people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
> VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
> please share.
> Richard
> 
> 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Gerardo Corripio
shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also using 
latest iOS on an iPhone SE.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:

> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who doesn’t 
> live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for him. Thus 
> far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from that other list. 
> This is very strange.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks ago 
>> according to the app store.
>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
>> maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would 
>> encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that 
>> something has gone very wrong.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi richard,
>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they 
>>> did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know 
>>> what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover 
>>> either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it 
>>> doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this 
>>> problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
 working since iOS 12.1.
 She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
 rerecording a phrase.
 I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
 bad results.
 
 They worked fine in iOS 12. 
 I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are 
 ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant 
 people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
 VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
 I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
 experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
 please share.
 Richard
 
 
 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Mary Otten
I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who doesn’t 
live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working for him. Thus far, 
that is the only useful response I have gotten from that other list. This is 
very strange.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks ago 
> according to the app store.
> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
> maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would 
> encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that 
> something has gone very wrong.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did 
>> work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it 
>> is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either, 
>> because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work. 
>> Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been 
>> all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped 
>>> working since iOS 12.1.
>>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
>>> rerecording a phrase.
>>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
>>> bad results.
>>> 
>>> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
>>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are ones 
>>> we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant people 
>>> and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with 
>>> VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
>>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
>>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
>>> please share.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Richard Turner
Mary,
I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 weeks ago 
according to the app store.
So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than yesterday, 
maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really odd. I would encourage 
everyone to write Apple since clearly, they are clueless that something has 
gone very wrong.
Richard



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which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on voiceover 
> being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did work after 
> I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it is. But I 
> don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either, because if I 
> turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work. Not that we 
> shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been all over the 
> tech press. It’s really annoying.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped working 
>> since iOS 12.1.
>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
>> rerecording a phrase.
>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same 
>> bad results.
>> 
>> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are ones 
>> we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant people 
>> and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with VoiceOver, 
>> he ignored me. 
>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
>> please share.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Jim Fettgather
I believe that it is an update to the Shortcuts app itself, that is
why Siri shortcuts are broken, and it is very uncool.  So, I do not
think that it is the version of IOS, but rather, the shortcuts app
that is broken


On 12/4/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi richard,
> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on
> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did
> work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it
> is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either,
> because if I turn voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work.
> Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been
> all over the tech press. It’s really annoying.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped
>> working since iOS 12.1.
>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after
>> rerecording a phrase.
>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same
>> bad results.
>>
>> They worked fine in iOS 12.
>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are
>> ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant
>> people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with
>> VoiceOver, he ignored me.
>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are
>> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around,
>> please share.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1

2018-12-04 Thread Mary Otten
Hi richard,
Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on voiceover 
being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since they did work after I 
updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I don’t know what it is. But I don’t 
think it’s the latest iOS, and it isn’t voiceover either, because if I turn 
voiceover off and try to do a shortcut, it doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t 
write Apple. I can’t believe this problem has it been all over the tech press. 
It’s really annoying.
Mary


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> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have stopped working 
> since iOS 12.1.
> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
> rerecording a phrase.
> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with the same bad 
> results.
> 
> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these are ones 
> we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like ignorant people 
> and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had tried it with VoiceOver, 
> he ignored me. 
> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who are 
> experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work around, 
> please share.
> Richard
> 
> 
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