Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I certainly don’t give a rats ass about what people think of my hand being in
my
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
My wife who is sighted and does not like apple wanted an android so I ordered a
Oneplus t 6 phone. It has both Face ID and a finger
-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I certainly don’t give a rats ass about what people think of my hand being in
my pocket.
I
eople will have a choice. As choice is always welcome.
> Janet
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.
el mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
>
> Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up
> an iPho
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
Hi Simon and All,
Wow, so you think someone should be shot! LOL! Smile! I think this face
id issue is well blown out of proportion. Some people are thinking they
have to move their head around and around to unlock their phone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
Carolyn,
I understand that, but I still don't see how anyone can say that is weird
though. Regardless who said it. Smile!
Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
I was responding to Christopher's message to Simon.
Best regards,
Carolyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say
way weird, huh. That's the way it is.
Best
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
lenron brown
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
Hi Simon and All,
Wow, so you think someone should be shot! LOL! Smile! I think this face id
issue is well blown out of proportion. Some people are thinking they have to
move their head around and around to unlock their phone, this is not the case
at all. The only time someone will have
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say
way weird, huh. That's the way it is.
Best regards
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Absolutely!
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen
touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your
iPhone 8 can last years
ber 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up
an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as
-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk
on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly
don't!
given the choice, I would
>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so
>>> much
>>>
>>> easier!
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "lenron brown"
>>> To:
>&g
,
Sieghard
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk
on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so
AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen
touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your
iPhone 8 can last years too.
> On Dec 17, 2018, a
I understand the problem people are having. However, I have found that if you
memorize a spot that works in front of you, as in position, it will work every
time. My daughter told me, that often I took the phone back to far. With her
ideas and assistance, I can get it to undo itself 90% of the
Maybe it’s because I’m getting old but I really wouldn’t care if a future boss
thought I looked strange. I used to be very timid but now I’d likely tell
above-mentioned boss just what I thought of him/her.
All the best
Angie
> On 17 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
>
> Responding to
pocket and I don't think it looks
> strange at all. Janet
>
> -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag o
Absolutely!
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people
choosing not to use
: Re: face id opinions wanted
yet another very good point.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Janet Bell"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot
safer to have
yet another very good point.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Janet Bell"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot
safer to have your phone in either your bag
id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket,
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is
much more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha
On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
wrote:
same here, who
a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have
all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump
it!
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "alia robinson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I have b
ecember 17, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id.
On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have
all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump
it!
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "alia robinson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: face i
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:54 PM
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you
look really strange to sighted people. It’s
Hi Simon, know i don't ride.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds!
do you ride as well
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may
be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left
hand or staring off into space.
Moving your head all over the whatever.. Seriously
: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I think it looks a lot weirder rubbing around in your pocket when people don’t
know what you’re rubbing on, but that’s just me! LOL, at least if you had a
phone near your face they’d have some clue
I have never seen a thing, and I always turn my head to my phone when I’m using
it.
On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote:
I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be
holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or
again, at the end of the day, you know what you are doing, so who gives a
toss?
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Aleeha Dudley"
To: "viPhone"
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
A sighted person wouldn’t know what y
I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been
aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to
rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act?
On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback
wrote:
exactly! you know
we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds!
do you ride as well then?
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Dave"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
i totally agree!
Dave.
-Original Message-
Fro
: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not
playing games, well having their phone in their pocket.
Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot
my samsung note 8 still uses good old touch id, thank the good lord!
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Dave"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new
f
nt: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you
have your hand in your bag or pocket?
and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks!
You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not d
I think it looks a lot weirder rubbing around in your pocket when people don’t
know what you’re rubbing on, but that’s just me! LOL, at least if you had a
phone near your face they’d have some clue.
On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Dave wrote:
i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking
, to unlock it.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: alia robinson
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around
in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing
this is hilarious to me!why does this have to be explained? putting your hand
in your pocket, and fondling and stroking your phone, um yeah! LOL I can’t even!
On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote:
Um yeah... This is one of those things where if you've had vision, it's not
even a
no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in
your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing.
On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote:
mate, i use to be a sighted person.
And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:30 PM
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
The difference is that your hand doesn’t stay in your pocket when you get
your keys out.
Aleeha
On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave wrote:
then never get your keys, or wallet out.
-Original Message
, this really isn't that hard to
grasp.
Cristóbal
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention
what we've got and it works well enough.
Cristóbal
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria
Reyes
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Even if Apple came out with a phone with Face ID
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
> How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you
> have your hand in your bag or pocket?
>
&
.
-Original Message-
From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you
look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much
more
7 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
> Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the
> wrong place.
> Aleeha
>
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote:
>>
>> Indeed. In your jacket pock
re unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the
> middle of the street.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
> Sorry
then never get your keys, or wallet out.
-Original Message-
From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the
wrong place.
Aleeha
On Dec 17, 2018
i totally agree!
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly
don't!
given the choice, I would
not if you are having to wave your phone all over the place, just to get the
thing unlocked!
-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Well, I’m not really worried about everyone
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic,
you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying,
and now I’m done.
Aleeha
On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Well, to be fair, some
android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new
fingerprint technology also.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Well, to be fair, some blind
Message-
From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket,
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is
much more secure than
Cristóbal
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM
>> To: viPhone
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Sorry to say thi
ardcore game of pocket pool.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha
> Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> Importance: High
>
> So
To: viPhone
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you
look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much
more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43
uot;
> To: "viPhone"
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
>
> Hi,
> I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have
>
> as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone
either.
Cristóbal
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk
on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away
"
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic,
you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying,
and now I’m done.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57
ing to take it
> out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the
> horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
>
> Simon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aleeha Dudley"
> To: "viPhone"
> Sent: M
Literally, if you're a quarter inch
>>>>> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try
>>>>> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback
>>&
g around, and when touch id was so
>> much
>>
>> easier!
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "lenron brown"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
&
it if the
horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Aleeha Dudley"
To: "viPhone"
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone in
Well, I’m not really worried about everyone being my future boss, but if I was
around colleges, I would try to at least use the phone on a desk, but I don’t
try to act all flashy and call attention to how “normal” I act. FaceID does
help one look more “normal.
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM,
e productive.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so
>>>>> much
>>>>>
>>>>> easier!
>>>>&g
gt;
>>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback
>>> wrote:
>>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so
>>>> much
>>>>
>>>> easier!
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>&g
Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you
would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now
I’m done.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>
> Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it
xactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so
>>> much
>>>
>>> easier!
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "lenron brown"
>>> To:
>>> Sent:
Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s
an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it
even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee
that Android manufacturers will adopt something like
much
>>
>> easier!
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "lenron brown"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>>
>>
>> All this just to ge
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you
look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much
more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
> wrote:
>
> same here, who ever had the
>> From: "lenron brown"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>>
>>
>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble
It actually takes less time to set up than Touch ID did.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>
> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
> do is just make my phone unlock.
thanks a lot, that's not a lot of help, as I am using an iPhone X.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Devin Prater"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with
in-sc
gt; Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>
>
> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep f
Well that's the only way I would ever consider buying another IPhone.
When my mac dies it will be my last mac, unless I can find some kind
of amazing deal on one with everything I want. I am tired of giving
companies money and not getting exactly what I want. I just think
about the price of having
exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much
easier!
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "lenron brown"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it.
I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen
touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your
iPhone 8 can last years too.
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
> wrote:
>
> same here, who ever had the stupid idea
same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and
replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in
something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is
particularly
I don’t mind it. Sure, when I’m laying in bed it’s a little of a hassle, but
with a Bluetooth keyboard, I’d not really have that problem as I’d just enter
my passcode on it anyway.
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>
> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it.
All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id.
On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
> Hi,
> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me
Hi,
I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty seconds
to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students is to
think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set up
FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you
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