Re: face id opinions wanted
There are gloves you can use with modern touch screens. The finger tips
allow for electric conduction through the material. I don't have a pair
myself, but others living farther north have talked about them on list.
I'm sure you can search for them on the web.
On 12/19/18 2:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Juan, I play piano in ours and tuck mine up under my arms a lot. The keys are
cold too, and I have tried playing with gloves on, can do it, but not easy. I
can't use my iPhone with gloves though, or haven't tried, don't think that
could work.
Best regards,
Carolyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I certainly don’t give a rats ass about what people think of my hand being in
my pocket.
I play violin in church in my community . That church is very cold and I
frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm. People come up to me
after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my
hand being in my pocket during the service.
Juan
On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise mailto:mikedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this
topic.
I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and
we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone
in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As
a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket
bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that
person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this
when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your
pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen
fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other
device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth
keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.
Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID
but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is
very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or
no security at all.
I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but
until then, I think we have a great solution for now.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to
snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation
Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of goshawk on
horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I
certainly
don't!
given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the
phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take
it
out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the
horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Aleeha Dudley" mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> >
To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or
pocket,
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also,
FaceID is
much more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
> mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> sa
RE: face id opinions wanted
Hi Juan, Having face id and finger print reader options, well, that's now cool! LOL! That's what I call choice! Just out of curiosity, how did your wife set up the finger print reader option? I would like that myself. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juan Mojena Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted My wife who is sighted and does not like apple wanted an android so I ordered a Oneplus t 6 phone. It has both Face ID and a finger print reader that is built into the screen. She can just place her finger on the screen and unlock the phone.There is no physical button where onecan put a finger it is just on the bottom of the screen and one just places a finger until the phone unlocks. Juan > On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross wrote: > > Hi All, > Yes, I've also heard that Apple might introduce the touch id as well as the > face id, so people will have a choice. As choice is always welcome. > Janet > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Devin Prater > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > Importance: High > > I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with > in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years > away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com
RE: face id opinions wanted
Juan, I play piano in ours and tuck mine up under my arms a lot. The keys are
cold too, and I have tried playing with gloves on, can do it, but not easy. I
can't use my iPhone with gloves though, or haven't tried, don't think that
could work.
Best regards,
Carolyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
I certainly don’t give a rats ass about what people think of my hand being in
my pocket.
I play violin in church in my community . That church is very cold and I
frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm. People come up to me
after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my
hand being in my pocket during the service.
Juan
On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise mailto:mikedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this
topic.
I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and
we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone
in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As
a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket
bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that
person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this
when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your
pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen
fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other
device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth
keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.
Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID
but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is
very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or
no security at all.
I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but
until then, I think we have a great solution for now.
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Windows 10
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to
snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation
Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High
who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I
certainly
don't!
given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst
the
phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take
it
out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if
the
horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
Simon
- Original Message -
From: "Aleeha Dudley" mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> >
To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or
pocket,
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also,
FaceID is
much more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
> mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch
id
> and
> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone
is in
> something like a bumbag, wi
Re: face id opinions wanted
My wife who is sighted and does not like apple wanted an android so I ordered a Oneplus t 6 phone. It has both Face ID and a finger print reader that is built into the screen. She can just place her finger on the screen and unlock the phone.There is no physical button where onecan put a finger it is just on the bottom of the screen and one just places a finger until the phone unlocks. Juan > On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross wrote: > > Hi All, > Yes, I've also heard that Apple might introduce the touch id as well as the > face id, so people will have a choice. As choice is always welcome. > Janet > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Devin Prater > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > Importance: High > > I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with > in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years > away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V
Re: face id opinions wanted
I certainly don’t give a rats ass about what people think of my hand being in my pocket. I play violin in church in my community . That church is very cold and I frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm. People come up to me after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my hand being in my pocket during the service. Juan > On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise wrote: > > Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this topic. > > I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and we > should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone in > our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As > a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s > pocket bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to > that person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider > this when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in > your pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen > fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some > other device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a > Bluetooth keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad. > > Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID but > otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is very > secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or no > security at all. > > I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but until > then, I think we have a great solution for now. > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of > Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted > > Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up > an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first > generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second > generation Touch Id was or this year's Face Id. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > goshawk on horseback > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > Importance: High > > who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly > don't! > given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the > phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it > out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the > horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aleeha Dudley" <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> > To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > > > <mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote: > > > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > > and > > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > > that > > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > > > Simon > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jed Barton" mailto:j...@jedbarton.com>> > > To: "viphone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > O
Re: face id opinions wanted
I think it has gotten pretty silly. the fact is, the IPhone has no home button and is using face id. Some like it and some don't. No one is being forced to own one without a finger print ID. Marie -Original Message- From: janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Hi Simon and All, Wow, so you think someone should be shot! LOL! Smile! I think this face id issue is well blown out of proportion. Some people are thinking they have to move their head around and around to unlock their phone, this is not the case at all. The only time someone will have to move their head around is during the face id set up process , and then just look at the phone when you want to unlock it. If you want to unlock the phone while in your pocket, try lifting the phone out of your pocket, and look down at it, and place it back in your pocket. Just a thought, so please don't shoot me, just trying to help. I do have face id set up on my xr phone, and I did set it up myself. The face id feature will walk you through the set up process, meaning it will tell you to turn your head to the right or to the left, or to look down, or to look at the screen etc. When I unlock my phone, I press the power button, and look at the phone, and the majority of the time it will unlock, but I've noticed if I don't look directly at the phone, it will not unlock, and I tried that just to see if it would really unlock if I wasn't looking directly at the phone. Now, it does annoy me rather I look directly at the phone or not, and it will still ask me for my security code, but from my understanding from Apple, this is how the face id feature is set up, and the reason is for security purposes, in which I can appreciate, but still annoying at the sametime though. Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I don't either, but the thing is, if someone does, the best thing is to make as little of it as possible. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Carolyn, I understand that, but I still don't see how anyone can say that is weird though. Regardless who said it. Smile! Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I was responding to Christopher's message to Simon. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Hi Carolyn, I really don't understand why anyone would say that is weird to unlock a phone, as we as blind people unlock the phone with face id the same way as sighted people, so I'm really lost on this one! LOL! Janet , -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say way weird, huh. That's the way it is. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: > well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't > have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like > it or lump it! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "alia robinson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have > ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I > soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. > not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still > have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? > -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list o
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Carolyn, I understand that, but I still don't see how anyone can say that is weird though. Regardless who said it. Smile! Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I was responding to Christopher's message to Simon. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Hi Carolyn, I really don't understand why anyone would say that is weird to unlock a phone, as we as blind people unlock the phone with face id the same way as sighted people, so I'm really lost on this one! LOL! Janet , -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say way weird, huh. That's the way it is. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: > well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't > have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like > it or lump it! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "alia robinson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have > ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I > soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. > not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still > have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? > -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to v
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I was responding to Christopher's message to Simon. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Hi Carolyn, I really don't understand why anyone would say that is weird to unlock a phone, as we as blind people unlock the phone with face id the same way as sighted people, so I'm really lost on this one! LOL! Janet , -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say way weird, huh. That's the way it is. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: > well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't > have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like > it or lump it! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "alia robinson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have > ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I > soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. > not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still > have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? > -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of t
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Lenron, You definitely have the wrong idea about this face id. Now, I can understand if you just don't like it, or you just don't want it, as that is your right, but Spin your head around hop up and down to unlock your phone, not so. You are blowing this all out of proportion! LOL! Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty > seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students > is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set > up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going > from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This > usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, > six or so inches away from your face. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/opt
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Hi Simon and All, Wow, so you think someone should be shot! LOL! Smile! I think this face id issue is well blown out of proportion. Some people are thinking they have to move their head around and around to unlock their phone, this is not the case at all. The only time someone will have to move their head around is during the face id set up process , and then just look at the phone when you want to unlock it. If you want to unlock the phone while in your pocket, try lifting the phone out of your pocket, and look down at it, and place it back in your pocket. Just a thought, so please don't shoot me, just trying to help. I do have face id set up on my xr phone, and I did set it up myself. The face id feature will walk you through the set up process, meaning it will tell you to turn your head to the right or to the left, or to look down, or to look at the screen etc. When I unlock my phone, I press the power button, and look at the phone, and the majority of the time it will unlock, but I've noticed if I don't look directly at the phone, it will not unlock, and I tried that just to see if it would really unlock if I wasn't looking directly at the phone. Now, it does annoy me rather I look directly at the phone or not, and it will still ask me for my security code, but from my understanding from Apple, this is how the face id feature is set up, and the reason is for security purposes, in which I can appreciate, but still annoying at the sametime though. Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Carolyn, I really don't understand why anyone would say that is weird to unlock a phone, as we as blind people unlock the phone with face id the same way as sighted people, so I'm really lost on this one! LOL! Janet , -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say way weird, huh. That's the way it is. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: > well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't > have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like > it or lump it! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "alia robinson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have > ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I > soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. > not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still > have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? > -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at ca
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I am a one to say, if someone says something I'm doing is weird that I just say way weird, huh. That's the way it is. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: > well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't > have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like > it or lump it! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "alia robinson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have > ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I > soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. > not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still > have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? > -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi All, Yes, I've also heard that Apple might introduce the touch id as well as the face id, so people will have a choice. As choice is always welcome. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the run
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Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this topic. I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad. Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or no security at all. I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but until then, I think we have a great solution for now. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation Touch Id was or this year's Face Id. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you hav
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Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation Touch Id was or this year's Face Id. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http
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Hi Len, You may not have your phone around people, but millions of people do and to them security does matter. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have > as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone > vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you > have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t > open. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >> >> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>> much >>> >>> easier! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "lenron brown" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>> >>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>> students >>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>>> set >>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>> going >>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>> you, >>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>> Aleeha >>>> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jed >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>
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Having the choice once Touch Id is available to work anywhere on the screen would be ideal. Simon, I'm sure Apple hasn't consulted blind horseback riders which I assume do not make up a large number of Apple's customers, but also remember that there are a lot of people who probably love Face Id because it works so much better for them than Touch Id. If I have a project going in my woodworking shop I can usually forget Touch Id for a week afterwards because I may have little scratches or cuts on my fingers along with maybe a bit of glue or wood finish which comes off gradually, but it's enough for Touch Id to not work. Think of all the thousands of sighted people who are manual workers, who need to wear gloves or simply all of us in the northern regions where you have to wear gloves because it's cold for a good part of the year. Here Face Id is much more convenient. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much easier! Simon - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty > seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my > students > is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you > set > up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were > going > from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This > usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, > six or so inches away from your face. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is
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If Apple offers both it may not be this fall, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were in the Fall of 2020. Qualcom has just announced their Snapdragon 855 chip which supports fingerprint unlock by putting your finger anywhere on the screen and Android phones are expected to adopt it this year. Apple designs their own chip and, once again if this is part of what they want to offer, I'm sure it's well on the way. Of course if Face Id is what Apple decides they want to push then just as with the 3.5mm headphone jack no amount of consumer grumbling will change their mind. By the way, I remember a few people who like Jed with Face Id hated Touch Id when it came out and insisted that it simply was not working for them. My advice to Jed would be to get some help in setting it up and learning how to use it. It seems to work perfectly fine for most others hence I assume it really is simply because he is not setting it up and using it correctly. Once again, this is not meant in a negative way, but I also know people who for the life of them can't put their phone in the middle of a piece of paper and lift it up straight to get a decent OCR result and I knew a girl back in Germany at the school for the blind whose sense of direction was so bad that she would get turned around in a 6 foot wide hallway and she wouldn't notice it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is import
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I understand the problem people are having. However, I have found that if you memorize a spot that works in front of you, as in position, it will work every time. My daughter told me, that often I took the phone back to far. With her ideas and assistance, I can get it to undo itself 90% of the time. I just have to remember that my hand has to be in a certain position and a certain place for it to work. I’m not happy with Face ID, but I’m going to use it because I refuse to allow something technological to beat me. :-) Joney talk2o...@gmail.com "If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it." > On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > > Maybe it’s because I’m getting old but I really wouldn’t care if a future > boss thought I looked strange. I used to be very timid but now I’d likely > tell above-mentioned boss just what I thought of him/her. > > All the best > Angie > >> On 17 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >> >> Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, >> you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, >> and now I’m done. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >>> >>> Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. >>> It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing >>> to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can >>> almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like >>> FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not >>> counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the >>> phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing >>> VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get >>> better, as it did with TouchID. >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, > as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this
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Maybe it’s because I’m getting old but I really wouldn’t care if a future boss thought I looked strange. I used to be very timid but now I’d likely tell above-mentioned boss just what I thought of him/her. All the best Angie > On 17 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > > Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you > would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and > now I’m done. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >> >> Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. >> It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to >> have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost >> guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, >> albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting >> attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone >> without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver >> speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did >> with TouchID. >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, >>> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is >>> much more secure than TouchID ever was. >>> Aleeha >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list
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Are we ever going to let this topic go??? damn! I’m sure I’ll get some negative blow back!smiles > On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:39 AM, Janet Bell wrote: > > Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer > to have your phone in either your bag or pocket and I don't think it looks > strange at all. Janet > > -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe
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Absolutely! Dave. -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump it! Simon - Original Message - From: "alia robinson" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I am not trying to be contravertial but surely if face id is the way things are going we should at least try. I haven't ventured down that road yet because my iPhone 7 is very good to me and until it packs up I don't see why I should change for the sake of it. I will not stop putting my phone in my bag it is safer than trying to use it with one hand walking down the street with your dog and shopping and what have you. will stop moaning now. Janet -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted yet another very good point. Simon - Original Message - From: "Janet Bell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:39 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer to have your phone in either your bag or pocket and I don't think it looks strange at all. Janet -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to v
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yet another very good point. Simon - Original Message - From: "Janet Bell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:39 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer to have your phone in either your bag or pocket and I don't think it looks strange at all. Janet -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is imp
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Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer to have your phone in either your bag or pocket and I don't think it looks strange at all. Janet -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou
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Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one else's business after that. BTW, one of the things I liked about my Nokia running Symbian with Talks and using the T9 interface was how easy it was to use with one hand and without ever having to pull it out of my pocket. On 12/17/18 8:21 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump it! Simon - Original Message - From: "alia robinson" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I don't think iPhone users will have to wait years for this in screen finger print sensor. Android phones from Oneplus are already shipping with in screen finger print sensors and Samsung will include them in the phones they'll start shipping early next year. On 12/17/18 2:00 PM, lenron brown wrote: Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, just as you can go for the IPhone 7 or 8 at this point. Keep in mind lots of companies are trying to get this in screen fingerprint thing off the ground. On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Hi, I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t open. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much easier! Simon - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Hi, I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, six or so inches away from your face. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pleas
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well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump it! Simon - Original Message - From: "alia robinson" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi all, I remember when touch ID first came out it gave some people issues with not reading their finger print. I remember people putting in more than one finger and having to do it over again and again because it would not read their finger every time. Then after the next version of the iPhone and some updates you don't hear any issues with touch ID. So I am guessing this is going to happen with face ID. I heard the same complaining over and over with touch ID when it first came out. Now you don't hear any issues with it. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:54 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to v
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Hi Simon, know i don't ride. Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds! do you ride as well then? Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:19 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted i totally agree! Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post t
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As i said earlier. I was a sighted person too, and i still do all the sighted things, that i use to. But some blind people, find face ID difficult, and that is totally understandable to me. Dave. -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or staring off into space. Moving your head all over the whatever.. Seriously, what are we talking about. People are trying to fit a narrative that isn't true to fit their argument. The only time you may need to move your head around is to do the initial scan. After that and if you're set up right, you just interact with the phone as you normally would when using it. I mean, I lost my vision so some sighted habits are just engrained into me. I still flick the lights on and off when entering my room or bathroom or whatever. I still generally look at/towards my phone when I'm using it, etc. Even with the touch ID, after I unlocked it, I still looked down at it or in its general direction while I was doing whatever or reviewing this or that alert. Maybe it's different if you've always been total. I really can't say. And again, I'm an touch ID guy, but this really is becoming lets exaggerate X to try to win argument Y. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to unlock it. Dave. -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote: mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquin
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this thread started, with people, saying about unlocking their phones, which takes a second. not rubbing around in their pocket. Most of the members, who are talking about not looking blind, will look blind in many other ways. Dave. -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I think it looks a lot weirder rubbing around in your pocket when people don’t know what you’re rubbing on, but that’s just me! LOL, at least if you had a phone near your face they’d have some clue. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Dave wrote: i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to unlock it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I have never seen a thing, and I always turn my head to my phone when I’m using it. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or staring off into space. Moving your head all over the whatever.. Seriously, what are we talking about. People are trying to fit a narrative that isn't true to fit their argument. The only time you may need to move your head around is to do the initial scan. After that and if you're set up right, you just interact with the phone as you normally would when using it. I mean, I lost my vision so some sighted habits are just engrained into me. I still flick the lights on and off when entering my room or bathroom or whatever. I still generally look at/towards my phone when I'm using it, etc. Even with the touch ID, after I unlocked it, I still looked down at it or in its general direction while I was doing whatever or reviewing this or that alert. Maybe it's different if you've always been total. I really can't say. And again, I'm an touch ID guy, but this really is becoming lets exaggerate X to try to win argument Y. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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again, at the end of the day, you know what you are doing, so who gives a toss? Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:28 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted A sighted person wouldn’t know what you are doing. That’s the point. It looks like you are doing something strange in your pocket. The repetitive flicking motion that you use with VO makes the cloth move in such a way that it looks very weird and, to some, inappropriate, especially if it’s your pants pocket or a long coat. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Dave wrote: > > How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if > you have your hand in your bag or pocket? > > and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! > > You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the > middle of the street. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID > is much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id >> and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, >> as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >> that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or
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I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds! do you ride as well then? Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:19 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted i totally agree! Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received
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I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or staring off into space. Moving your head all over the whatever.. Seriously, what are we talking about. People are trying to fit a narrative that isn't true to fit their argument. The only time you may need to move your head around is to do the initial scan. After that and if you're set up right, you just interact with the phone as you normally would when using it. I mean, I lost my vision so some sighted habits are just engrained into me. I still flick the lights on and off when entering my room or bathroom or whatever. I still generally look at/towards my phone when I'm using it, etc. Even with the touch ID, after I unlocked it, I still looked down at it or in its general direction while I was doing whatever or reviewing this or that alert. Maybe it's different if you've always been total. I really can't say. And again, I'm an touch ID guy, but this really is becoming lets exaggerate X to try to win argument Y. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to unlock it. Dave. -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote: mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to v
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my samsung note 8 still uses good old touch id, thank the good lord! Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:10 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new fingerprint technology also. Dave. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley > wrote: > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID > is much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id >> and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, >> as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >> that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questi
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exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:07 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you have your hand in your bag or pocket? and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the middle of the street. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >
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I think it looks a lot weirder rubbing around in your pocket when people don’t know what you’re rubbing on, but that’s just me! LOL, at least if you had a phone near your face they’d have some clue. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Dave wrote: i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to unlock it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to unlock it. Dave. -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote: mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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this is hilarious to me!why does this have to be explained? putting your hand in your pocket, and fondling and stroking your phone, um yeah! LOL I can’t even! On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: Um yeah... This is one of those things where if you've had vision, it's not even a question. It can look really weird if not icky if you're standing or walking around while going to town in your pants or shorts pocket fiddling with your phone. A bag ... well, I guess not as much, but yeah, this really isn't that hard to grasp. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote: mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:30 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted The difference is that your hand doesn’t stay in your pocket when you get your keys out. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave wrote: then never get your keys, or wallet out. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the wrong place. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro
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Um yeah... This is one of those things where if you've had vision, it's not even a question. It can look really weird if not icky if you're standing or walking around while going to town in your pants or shorts pocket fiddling with your phone. A bag ... well, I guess not as much, but yeah, this really isn't that hard to grasp. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention to you that much or care? Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you have your hand in your bag or pocket? and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the middle of the street. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch > id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is > in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. > this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for > example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now > you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >
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Maybe the Apple gods got tired of hearing folks complain... Apple patent describes both Face ID and Touch ID on the same iPhone; Face ID on an Apple Watch https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/17/face-id-and-touch-id/ Fine and dandy, but we're living in the hear and now. Face ID isn't all that, but it's what we've got and it works well enough. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria Reyes Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Even if Apple came out with a phone with Face ID and Touch ID I'd most likely use Face ID more. When I first got my iPhone X, people told me to hold it about arms length and turn my head like a clock. Maria Reyes blindt...@gmail.com my group: blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io > On Dec 17, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention to you that much or > care? > > Best regards, > > Carolyn > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Dave > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you > have your hand in your bag or pocket? > > and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! > > You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the > middle of the street. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch >> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone >> is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. >> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back >> for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. >> but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@
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Even if Apple came out with a phone with Face ID and Touch ID I'd most likely use Face ID more. When I first got my iPhone X, people told me to hold it about arms length and turn my head like a clock. Maria Reyes blindt...@gmail.com my group: blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io > On Dec 17, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention to you that much or > care? > > Best regards, > > Carolyn > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Dave > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you > have your hand in your bag or pocket? > > and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! > > You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the > middle of the street. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch >> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is >> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. >> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for >> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now >> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> Th
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That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention to you that much or care? Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you have your hand in your bag or pocket? and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the middle of the street. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch > id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is > in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. > this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for > example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now > you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroup
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The difference is that your hand doesn’t stay in your pocket when you get your keys out. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave wrote: > > then never get your keys, or wallet out. > > -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the > wrong place. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: >> >> Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're >> going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Aleeha Dudley >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM >> To: viPhone >> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >> Importance: High >> >> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, >> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is >> much more secure than TouchID ever was. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >>> wrote: >>> >>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch >>> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is >>> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. >>> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for >>> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now >>> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jed Barton" >>> To: "viphone" >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >>> Subject: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >
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A sighted person wouldn’t know what you are doing. That’s the point. It looks like you are doing something strange in your pocket. The repetitive flicking motion that you use with VO makes the cloth move in such a way that it looks very weird and, to some, inappropriate, especially if it’s your pants pocket or a long coat. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Dave wrote: > > How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you > have your hand in your bag or pocket? > > and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! > > You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the > middle of the street. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your lis
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then never get your keys, or wallet out. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the wrong place. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the lis
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i totally agree! Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather th
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not if you are having to wave your phone all over the place, just to get the thing unlocked! -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Well, I’m not really worried about everyone being my future boss, but if I was around colleges, I would try to at least use the phone on a desk, but I don’t try to act all flashy and call attention to how “normal” I act. FaceID does help one look more “normal. On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now I’m done. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives
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never heard such rubbish in my life! Would your future boss, think you are strange, if you are using your phone, with the screen curtain on? and they thought you were typing on a blank screen? Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:00 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now I’m done. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group
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android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new fingerprint technology also. Dave. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is i
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How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you have your hand in your bag or pocket? and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the middle of the street. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/vip
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well, what i am finding here guys, now that i managed to get an alternate scan, it's certainly working better. Sorry for the rant. I'll keep everyone posted. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the > wrong place. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz >> wrote: >> >> Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're >> going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket >> pool. >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Aleeha Dudley >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM >> To: viPhone >> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >> Importance: High >> >> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, >> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID >> is much more secure than TouchID ever was. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >>> wrote: >>> >>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch >>> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is >>> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. >>> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for >>> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now >>> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jed Barton" >>> To: "viphone" >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >>> Subject: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or conc
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Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the wrong place. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: > > Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're > going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. > > Cristóbal > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha > Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > Importance: High > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch >> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is >> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. >> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for >> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now >> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received
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Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch > id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is > in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. > this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for > example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now > you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you
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Thing is I can use face id just fine, It's just annoying as hell. I tried it back when my mom had the max for a couple weeks. Also I am not just talking about having the phone in a pocket, there are other things that make it not so nice. Like someone mentioned laying down a bit ago. On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback wrote: > that's probably all well and good if you have a good sense of direction > and/or orientation. if those are a bit rubbish however, then it is a very > different story! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aleeha Dudley" > To: "viPhone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:55 PM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > Hi, > I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have > > as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone > vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you > > have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t > > open. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >> >> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>> much >>> >>> easier! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "lenron brown" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>> >>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>> students >>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>>> set >>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>> going >>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>> you, >>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>> Aleeha >>>> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jed >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>>
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Hyperbolic much? The Touch ID thing and ability to use your iPhone while in your pocket sure was handy, but come on, we're such a small user group. To think Apple's going to somehow change their plans over something like this? Besides, you can still unlock your phone without removing it from your pocket just by simply unlocking with the passcode. Same as before there was a touch ID. I’m not a face ID fan and also prefer the touch ID, but I'm at least not having as many issues as others seem to be having. I do get the failure scan from time to time, but I either just swipe up again or since I've got my hand on the phone anyway, I just punch in the code real quick. If Apple were ever to come out with a phone that has touch ID imbedded in the screen like some android devices already have, I'd probably get it, but face ID while not as convenient isn't the end of the world either. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Importance: High same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any
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any "future boss" that couldn't be open minded enough to just accept how I used my phone, would almost certainly be too closed minded to employ a VI anyway, so again, not really a good argument. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:00 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now I’m done. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. > It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing > to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can > almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like > FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not > counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the > phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing > VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get > better, as it did with TouchID. > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley >> wrote: >> >> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or >> pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, >> FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >>> wrote: >>> >>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id >>> and >>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is >>> in >>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this >>> is >>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, >>> as >>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >>> that >>> with this pesky face id rubbish! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jed Barton" >>> To: "viphone" >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >>> Subject: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Group
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Also, if we want to look normal while using our phone, we gotta get rid of our Bluetooth keyboards, Braille displays, and tactile screen protectors, and never ever let the world hear VoiceOver blaring out of your speakers, no one wants to hear all that computer talk. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:05 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly > don't! > given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the > phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it > out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the > horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aleeha Dudley" > To: "viPhone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id >> and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >> that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators direc
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I think most people would be too surprised to see a blind person using an iPhone just like theirs to notice that oh my goodness the blind person is just using the thing flat on that table while facing me, so how can they see what’s on their phone? > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:02 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > Ha you think I am worried about someone tripping out about me using my > phone a certain way. I am blind my cane would probably be the first > thing to throw them off. > > On 12/17/18, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, >> just as you can go for the IPhone 7 or 8 at this point. Keep in mind >> lots of companies are trying to get this in screen fingerprint thing >> off the ground. >> >> On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: >>> I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my >>> phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id >>> more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my >>> phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. >>> >>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others >>>> have >>>> as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone >>>> vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure >>>> you >>>> have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or >>>> don’t >>>> open. >>>> Aleeha >>>> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >>>>> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >>>>> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >>>>> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >>>>> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>>>>> much >>>>>> >>>>>> easier! >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: "lenron brown" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>>>>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>>>>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>>>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>>>>> students >>>>>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> set >>>>>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>>>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>>>>> you, >>>>>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>>>>> Aleeha >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally >>>>>>>> honest, >>>>>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >&g
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that's probably all well and good if you have a good sense of direction and/or orientation. if those are a bit rubbish however, then it is a very different story! Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:55 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Hi, I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t open. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i > said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what > seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch > off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try > and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. > > On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback > wrote: >> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >> much >> >> easier! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "lenron brown" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >> >> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>> students >>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>> set >>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>> going >>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>> you, >>> six or so inches away from your face. >>> Aleeha >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jed >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>> or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message bec
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who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google
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Well, I’m not really worried about everyone being my future boss, but if I was around colleges, I would try to at least use the phone on a desk, but I don’t try to act all flashy and call attention to how “normal” I act. FaceID does help one look more “normal. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > > Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you > would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and > now I’m done. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >> >> Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. >> It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to >> have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost >> guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, >> albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting >> attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone >> without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver >> speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did >> with TouchID. >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, >>> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is >>> much more secure than TouchID ever was. >>> Aleeha >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
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Ha you think I am worried about someone tripping out about me using my phone a certain way. I am blind my cane would probably be the first thing to throw them off. On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: > Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, > just as you can go for the IPhone 7 or 8 at this point. Keep in mind > lots of companies are trying to get this in screen fingerprint thing > off the ground. > > On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: >> I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my >> phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id >> more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my >> phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. >> >> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others >>> have >>> as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone >>> vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure >>> you >>> have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or >>> don’t >>> open. >>> Aleeha >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>> >>>> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >>>> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >>>> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >>>> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >>>> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >>>> >>>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >>>> wrote: >>>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>>>> much >>>>> >>>>> easier! >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "lenron brown" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>>>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>>>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>>>> students >>>>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When >>>>>> you >>>>>> set >>>>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>>>> going >>>>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>>>> you, >>>>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>>>> Aleeha >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally >>>>>>> honest, >>>>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>>>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>&g
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Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, just as you can go for the IPhone 7 or 8 at this point. Keep in mind lots of companies are trying to get this in screen fingerprint thing off the ground. On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: > I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my > phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id > more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my > phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. > > On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >> Hi, >> I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others >> have >> as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone >> vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure >> you >> have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or >> don’t >> open. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>> >>> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >>> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >>> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >>> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >>> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >>> >>> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >>> wrote: >>>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>>> much >>>> >>>> easier! >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "lenron brown" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>>> >>>> >>>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>>> >>>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>>> students >>>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When >>>>> you >>>>> set >>>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>>> going >>>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>>> you, >>>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>>> Aleeha >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>
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Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now I’m done. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. > It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to > have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost > guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit > without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode > being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least > hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a > little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley >> wrote: >> >> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, >> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is >> much more secure than TouchID ever was. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >>> wrote: >>> >>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >>> that >>> with this pesky face id rubbish! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jed Barton" >>> To: "viphone" >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >>> Subject: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and
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I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have > as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone > vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you > have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t > open. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i >> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what >> seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch >> off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try >> and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. >> >> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so >>> much >>> >>> easier! >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "lenron brown" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >>> >>> >>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >>> >>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>>> students >>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>>> set >>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>>> going >>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>>> you, >>>> six or so inches away from your face. >>>> Aleeha >>>> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jed >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>> or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>> mk...@ucla.e
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Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > > Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, > you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is > much more secure than TouchID ever was. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V
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Hi, I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t open. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i > said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what > seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch > off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try > and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. > > On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback wrote: >> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much >> >> easier! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "lenron brown" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >> >> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>> students >>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>> set >>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>> going >>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>> you, >>> six or so inches away from your face. >>> Aleeha >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jed >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googleg
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Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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You may want to try setting up FaceID again. I’ve gotten rather good at it, and if it doesn’t get it the first time, point your phone screen down, or away from you, then back at your face, and it’ll scan again. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i > said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what > seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch > off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try > and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. > > On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback wrote: >> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much >> >> easier! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "lenron brown" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM >> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your >> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to >> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. >> >> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >>> students >>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >>> set >>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >>> going >>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >>> you, >>> six or so inches away from your face. >>> Aleeha >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jed >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For
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It actually takes less time to set up than Touch ID did. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your > head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to > do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. > > On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >> Hi, >> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students >> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set >> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going >> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, >> six or so inches away from your face. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Lenron Brown > Cell: 985-271-2832 > Skype: ron.brown762 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message
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thanks a lot, that's not a lot of help, as I am using an iPhone X. Simon - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:45 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id > and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do > that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone l
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that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try and unlock my phone. That's 30 seconds when i could be productive. On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback wrote: > exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much > > easier! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "lenron brown" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM > Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted > > > All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your > head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to > do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. > > On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >> Hi, >> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my >> students >> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you >> set >> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were >> going >> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of >> you, >> six or so inches away from your face. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> &
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Well that's the only way I would ever consider buying another IPhone. When my mac dies it will be my last mac, unless I can find some kind of amazing deal on one with everything I want. I am tired of giving companies money and not getting exactly what I want. I just think about the price of having to replace my ssd on my MBP 2014 and it's not even worth it. On 12/17/18, Devin Prater wrote: > I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with > in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years > away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >> >> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id >> and >> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! >> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in >> >> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is >> >> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as >> >> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do >> that >> with this pesky face id rubbish! >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jed Barton" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM >> Subject: face id opinions wanted >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be
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exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much easier! Simon - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty > seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my > students > is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you > set > up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were > going > from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This > usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, > six or so inches away from your face. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
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I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that > with this pesky face id rubbish! > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM > Subject: face id opinions wanted > > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
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same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish! Simon - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: "viphone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM Subject: face id opinions wanted Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. Thanks, Jed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I don’t mind it. Sure, when I’m laying in bed it’s a little of a hassle, but with a Bluetooth keyboard, I’d not really have that problem as I’d just enter my passcode on it anyway. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your > head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to > do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. > > On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: >> Hi, >> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty >> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students >> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set >> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going >> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This >> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, >> six or so inches away from your face. >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >>> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >>> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >>> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >>> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >>> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jed >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Lenron Brown > Cell: 985-271-2832 > Skype: ron.brown762 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list
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All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty > seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students > is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set > up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going > from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This > usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, > six or so inches away from your face. > Aleeha > >> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, >> i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on >> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not >> as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i >> am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 >> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the >> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would >> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess >> that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? >> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times >> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another >> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my >> phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. >> In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my >> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing >> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else >> experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Hi, I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, six or so inches away from your face. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > Hey guys, > > OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, > i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not > as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i > am with it, and i just do the home swipe. It literally took me 17 > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face. it would > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess > that's too much. Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone. What i find, out of 20 times > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time. Another > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my > phone to do something. It never has worked yet when i'm laying down. > In my eyes, this is not acceptable. I like to be productive with my > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable. Has anyone else > experienced this, am i alone? Help me out here guys. > > Thanks, > > Jed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
