Re: Pinch Gesture On Apple Watch Ultra 2

2024-04-30 Thread Tai Tomasi
I can confirm that I too am unable to get this to work using voiceover.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Apr 30, 2024, at 5:32 PM, Edward Przybylek  wrote:Hi all, I’ve been trying to turn on pinch gestures on my Apple watch Ultra 2.  So far, no luck.  I called Apple accessibility support and, after half an hour, the representative told me she didn’t believe the feature works when using VoiceOver at the same time.  I thought I’d write to the list and see if this is the case.  Has anyone gotten this feature to work?  If so, could you please pass on any tips you have that might get the pinch and other gestures working on my watch.  As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Take care,Ed Przybylek 



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Pinch Gesture On Apple Watch Ultra 2

2024-04-30 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi all,

 

I've been trying to turn on pinch gestures on my Apple watch Ultra 2.  So
far, no luck.  I called Apple accessibility support and, after half an hour,
the representative told me she didn't believe the feature works when using
VoiceOver at the same time.  I thought I'd write to the list and see if this
is the case.  Has anyone gotten this feature to work?  If so, could you
please pass on any tips you have that might get the pinch and other gestures
working on my watch.  As always, any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

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Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-22 Thread Diane Giannetti
You are welcome, Richard glad I could help
Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Mar 21, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> I swipe left or right with three fingers to change from one watch face to 
> another. However, it doesn't work consistently, however.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> ,kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Mar 21, 2024 5:12 PM, Richard Turner 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Diane,
>> I'm not Mark, but going to the clock setting on the watch the first item is 
>> swipe to switch watch face, which was off.  Turning it on makes it possible 
>> to change watch faces with a two finger swipe left or right.
>> Thank you.
>> I doubt I would have found it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
>> Giannetti
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch 
>> Faces, on the Fly?
>> 
>> Hi Mark. What you need to do, go to settings on your watch, then go to 
>> Clock, then it should be swipe over to where it says something about switch 
>> face something on off switch it to be on it switch something face hold on 
>> let me see if I can find it quickly Swipe to face and yours probably says 
>> off so put it on and you’ll find that you’ll be able to go from face-to-face 
>> like you used to doing Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I
>>> wanted to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger
>>> swipe from left to right or from right to left on my Apple watch. 
>>> Apparently, this is no longer the case.
>>> 
>>> What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-21 Thread Richard Turner
The gesture should be two finger swipe left or right. It works consistantly for 
me. 


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> On Mar 21, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> I swipe left or right with three fingers to change from one watch face to 
> another. However, it doesn't work consistently, however.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> ,kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Mar 21, 2024 5:12 PM, Richard Turner 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Diane,
>> I'm not Mark, but going to the clock setting on the watch the first item is 
>> swipe to switch watch face, which was off.  Turning it on makes it possible 
>> to change watch faces with a two finger swipe left or right.
>> Thank you.
>> I doubt I would have found it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
>> JAWS version 2024.2403.3
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
>> Giannetti
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch 
>> Faces, on the Fly?
>> 
>> Hi Mark. What you need to do, go to settings on your watch, then go to 
>> Clock, then it should be swipe over to where it says something about switch 
>> face something on off switch it to be on it switch something face hold on 
>> let me see if I can find it quickly Swipe to face and yours probably says 
>> off so put it on and you’ll find that you’ll be able to go from face-to-face 
>> like you used to doing Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I
>>> wanted to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger
>>> swipe from left to right or from right to left on my Apple watch. 
>>> Apparently, this is no longer the case.
>>> 
>>> What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-21 Thread Kathy Blackburn
I swipe left or right with three fingers to change from one watch face to 
another. However, it doesn't work consistently, however.

Kathy Blackburn
,kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Mar 21, 2024 5:12 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Diane, 
> I'm not Mark, but going to the clock setting on the watch the first item is 
> swipe to switch watch face, which was off.  Turning it on makes it possible 
> to change watch faces with a two finger swipe left or right. 
> Thank you. 
> I doubt I would have found it. 
>
>
>
> Richard, USA 
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." 
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe 
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 
>
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> -Original Message- 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
> Giannetti 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:41 PM 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch 
> Faces, on the Fly? 
>
> Hi Mark. What you need to do, go to settings on your watch, then go to Clock, 
> then it should be swipe over to where it says something about switch face 
> something on off switch it to be on it switch something face hold on let me 
> see if I can find it quickly Swipe to face and yours probably says off so put 
> it on and you’ll find that you’ll be able to go from face-to-face like you 
> used to doing Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! 
>
> > On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote: 
> > 
> > Hello All, 
> > 
> > Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I 
> > wanted to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger 
> > swipe from left to right or from right to left on my Apple watch.  
> > Apparently, this is no longer the case. 
> > 
> > What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces? 
> > 
> > Thank you, 
> > 
> > Mark 
> > 
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RE: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-21 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Diane,
I'm not Mark, but going to the clock setting on the watch the first item is 
swipe to switch watch face, which was off.  Turning it on makes it possible to 
change watch faces with a two finger swipe left or right.
Thank you.
I doubt I would have found it.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch 
Faces, on the Fly?

Hi Mark. What you need to do, go to settings on your watch, then go to Clock, 
then it should be swipe over to where it says something about switch face 
something on off switch it to be on it switch something face hold on let me see 
if I can find it quickly Swipe to face and yours probably says off so put it on 
and you’ll find that you’ll be able to go from face-to-face like you used to 
doing Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I 
> wanted to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger 
> swipe from left to right or from right to left on my Apple watch.  
> Apparently, this is no longer the case.
> 
> What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-20 Thread Diane Giannetti
Hi Mark. What you need to do, go to settings on your watch, then go to Clock, 
then it should be swipe over to where it says something about switch face 
something on off switch it to be on it switch something face hold on let me see 
if I can find it quickly Swipe to face and yours probably says off so put it on 
and you’ll find that you’ll be able to go from face-to-face like you used to 
doing 
Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I wanted
> to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger swipe from left
> to right or from right to left on my Apple watch.  Apparently, this is no
> longer the case.
> 
> What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hi,

Disregard the question. 

Apparently, what has been a default feature since the release of Apple Watch 
series 2, is now a feature that must manually be enabled from within the 
settings area of the OS.

I truly don't know why Apple keeps changing even the most basic settings when 
those settings have been time-tested for years.

To manually enable this old feature, open the Settings app, on the watch and 
then go to Clock.  At the top of the list you will see an option to enable this 
feature.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 10:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, 
on the Fly?

Hello All,

Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I wanted to 
change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger swipe from left to 
right or from right to left on my Apple watch.  Apparently, this is no longer 
the case.

What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?

Thank you,

Mark


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Question: What is the VoiceOver Gesture to Change Apple Watch Faces, on the Fly?

2024-03-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

Okay, at one point, in the recent past, with VoiceOver enabled, if I wanted
to change watch faces, on the fly, I could simply 2-finger swipe from left
to right or from right to left on my Apple watch.  Apparently, this is no
longer the case.

What is now the VO gesture to quickly change watch faces?

Thank you,

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RE: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

2024-03-12 Thread blazie.girl
Thanks All,

 

It was that speech was turned off.  I did try turning it back on several times 
before posting my issue with no success.  I guess I finally got my fingers just 
right for it to work.

 

Fortunately that was the only issue.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

 

I have had this happen on several occasions, and it’s always because I somehow 
turned off speech. So I suspect that is the problem.

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 12, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Could it be a three finger double tap was done that muted the speech?

 

Or, try triple tapping the crown to toggle VoiceOver off and then on again, or 
on, if it somehow got turned off.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

 

This has happened to me about 3 or 4 times over the last few months with my 
Apple watch 8. I also could hear the clicking and there was no reason for the 
watch to stop talking. I do use Apple air pods 2nd gen but the watch rarely 
connects to them. The first time I told watch Siri to start outdoor walk 
workout and held the watch close to my ear pod and I could hear it on the 
earpod. Then it started talking again. No rhyme or reason. Lately when it 
happens I go to the watch screen mirroring in the Accessibility under the 
Settings app on my iPhone SE 3. (It does take more than a minute for the watch 
to connect.) Actually I can’t say I followed any specific steps from here but 
after a while of trying various things the sound has come back.

I have been afraid to try turning the watch off without speech since on 
Christmas eve I was going to restart it and it went into emergency mode. 
Luckily that time I was able to get a sighted friend to cancel it.

I wish I could be more precise about what I did but I do hope this might help.

 

I am running watch 10 but it also happened when I was running watch  OS 9 as 
well.

Sherrie

 

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone

 

 

 

On Mar 11, 2024, at 9:54 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

 Hi Everyone,

 

All of a sudden today, my Apple watch 8 stopped talking.  It still makes 
clicking noises when I move around the face and every once in a while a bell 
tone goes off until I do something that shuts it off.  No I don’t remember 
exactly what I do to get the bell to stop and have no idea what I did to make 
the speech stop.  I asked the watch to turn on VO and it did say that it was on 
but that’s all I have gotten it to say.

 

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

2024-03-12 Thread Mary Otten
I have had this happen on several occasions, and it’s always because I somehow turned off speech. So I suspect that is the problem.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Could it be a three finger double tap was done that muted the speech? Or, try triple tapping the crown to toggle VoiceOver off and then on again, or on, if it somehow got turned off.   Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." -- Wolfgang Von Goethe  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sherrie GoslingSent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 8:47 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking This has happened to me about 3 or 4 times over the last few months with my Apple watch 8. I also could hear the clicking and there was no reason for the watch to stop talking. I do use Apple air pods 2nd gen but the watch rarely connects to them. The first time I told watch Siri to start outdoor walk workout and held the watch close to my ear pod and I could hear it on the earpod. Then it started talking again. No rhyme or reason. Lately when it happens I go to the watch screen mirroring in the Accessibility under the Settings app on my iPhone SE 3. (It does take more than a minute for the watch to connect.) Actually I can’t say I followed any specific steps from here but after a while of trying various things the sound has come back.I have been afraid to try turning the watch off without speech since on Christmas eve I was going to restart it and it went into emergency mode. Luckily that time I was able to get a sighted friend to cancel it.I wish I could be more precise about what I did but I do hope this might help. I am running watch 10 but it also happened when I was running watch  OS 9 as well.Sherrie Sent from Sherrie's iPhone   On Mar 11, 2024, at 9:54 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi Everyone, All of a sudden today, my Apple watch 8 stopped talking.  It still makes clicking noises when I move around the face and every once in a while a bell tone goes off until I do something that shuts it off.  No I don’t remember exactly what I do to get the bell to stop and have no idea what I did to make the speech stop.  I asked the watch to turn on VO and it did say that it was on but that’s all I have gotten it to say. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Vivian and Sallie --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ ---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com .To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/024a01da7420%243dec9020%24b9c5b060%24%40gmail.com . insertion point between well. and .Sherrie, at the 1,122nd position-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/070F961C-208D-43A0-A099-8F8FAB2A86F3%40gmail.com.



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RE: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

2024-03-12 Thread Richard Turner
Could it be a three finger double tap was done that muted the speech?

 

Or, try triple tapping the crown to toggle VoiceOver off and then on again, or 
on, if it somehow got turned off.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sherrie 
Gosling
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

 

This has happened to me about 3 or 4 times over the last few months with my 
Apple watch 8. I also could hear the clicking and there was no reason for the 
watch to stop talking. I do use Apple air pods 2nd gen but the watch rarely 
connects to them. The first time I told watch Siri to start outdoor walk 
workout and held the watch close to my ear pod and I could hear it on the 
earpod. Then it started talking again. No rhyme or reason. Lately when it 
happens I go to the watch screen mirroring in the Accessibility under the 
Settings app on my iPhone SE 3. (It does take more than a minute for the watch 
to connect.) Actually I can’t say I followed any specific steps from here but 
after a while of trying various things the sound has come back.

I have been afraid to try turning the watch off without speech since on 
Christmas eve I was going to restart it and it went into emergency mode. 
Luckily that time I was able to get a sighted friend to cancel it.

I wish I could be more precise about what I did but I do hope this might help.

 

I am running watch 10 but it also happened when I was running watch  OS 9 as 
well.

Sherrie

 

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone

 

 

 

On Mar 11, 2024, at 9:54 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

 Hi Everyone,

 

All of a sudden today, my Apple watch 8 stopped talking.  It still makes 
clicking noises when I move around the face and every once in a while a bell 
tone goes off until I do something that shuts it off.  No I don’t remember 
exactly what I do to get the bell to stop and have no idea what I did to make 
the speech stop.  I asked the watch to turn on VO and it did say that it was on 
but that’s all I have gotten it to say.

 

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

2024-03-12 Thread Sherrie Gosling
This has happened to me about 3 or 4 times over the last few months with my 
Apple watch 8. I also could hear the clicking and there was no reason for the 
watch to stop talking. I do use Apple air pods 2nd gen but the watch rarely 
connects to them. The first time I told watch Siri to start outdoor walk 
workout and held the watch close to my ear pod and I could hear it on the 
earpod. Then it started talking again. No rhyme or reason. Lately when it 
happens I go to the watch screen mirroring in the Accessibility under the 
Settings app on my iPhone SE 3. (It does take more than a minute for the watch 
to connect.) Actually I can’t say I followed any specific steps from here but 
after a while of trying various things the sound has come back.
I have been afraid to try turning the watch off without speech since on 
Christmas eve I was going to restart it and it went into emergency mode. 
Luckily that time I was able to get a sighted friend to cancel it.
I wish I could be more precise about what I did but I do hope this might help.

I am running watch 10 but it also happened when I was running watch  OS 9 as 
well.
Sherrie

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



On Mar 11, 2024, at 9:54 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
All of a sudden today, my Apple watch 8 stopped talking.  It still makes 
clicking noises when I move around the face and every once in a while a bell 
tone goes off until I do something that shuts it off.  No I don’t remember 
exactly what I do to get the bell to stop and have no idea what I did to make 
the speech stop.  I asked the watch to turn on VO and it did say that it was on 
but that’s all I have gotten it to say.
 
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 
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Apple Watch 8 Not Speaking

2024-03-11 Thread blazie.girl
Hi Everyone,

 

All of a sudden today, my Apple watch 8 stopped talking.  It still makes
clicking noises when I move around the face and every once in a while a bell
tone goes off until I do something that shuts it off.  No I don't remember
exactly what I do to get the bell to stop and have no idea what I did to
make the speech stop.  I asked the watch to turn on VO and it did say that
it was on but that's all I have gotten it to say.

 

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

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Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

2024-01-04 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
I’m glad that mystery is solved. Actually, I should have twigged I suppose 
because when I first started using sleep focus just before Christmas I noticed 
the display darkens; I can see a tiny bit. I noticed the display come to life 
when tapping the watch. I perhaps should have twigged that I needed to tap it 
once to wake and then twice to get the vibrations.

All the best
Angie


> On 3 Jan 2024, at 20:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
> was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
> first response I received simply stated what the support article said which 
> is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for 
> just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place 
> your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is 
> turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double 
> tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same 
> results".
> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes.
> This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> 
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> 
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article:
> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
> described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
> and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
> in a relatively quick manner.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
> be mentioned.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
> reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
> teams.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
> To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
> you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
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Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

2024-01-04 Thread Tom Rash
I got mine to work consistently as well.  They really need to make it easier to 
understand first time out.  Thanks to all of your persistence in getting it 
explained better. 


> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I finally got taptic time to work for me on my SE watch.
> I had to turn off raise to speak time in the VoiceOver settings, which didn’t 
> seem to do anything.
> Thanks for all the notes, otherwise I would have just thought it was an 
> unreliable service when VoiceOver is running. I was only able to get taptic 
> time to work when I didn’t want it, like when removing the watch from my 
> wrist.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where 
>> this was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because 
>> the first response I received simply stated what the support article said 
>> which is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple 
>> tap for just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is 
>> awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on 
>> Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the 
>> one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed 
>> to get the same results".
>> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
>> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
>> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
>> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
>> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
>> for just the minutes.
>> This is with the screen locked.
>> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to 
>> sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and 
>> then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus 
>> enabled and managed to get the same results.
>> 
>> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
>> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
>> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
>> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
>> appropriate teams for further investigation.
>> 
>> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
>> article:
>> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour 
>> I described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does 
>> nothing and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility  
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
>> To: siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
>> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
>> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
>> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, 
>> one-two” in a relatively quick manner.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
>> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
>> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
>> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should 
>> also be mentioned.
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility  
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
>> To: siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that 
>> will reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the 
>> appropriate teams.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>>

Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

2024-01-03 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I finally got taptic time to work for me on my SE watch.
I had to turn off raise to speak time in the VoiceOver settings, which didn’t 
seem to do anything.
Thanks for all the notes, otherwise I would have just thought it was an 
unreliable service when VoiceOver is running. I was only able to get taptic 
time to work when I didn’t want it, like when removing the watch from my wrist.


> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
> was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
> first response I received simply stated what the support article said which 
> is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for 
> just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place 
> your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is 
> turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double 
> tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same 
> results".
> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes.
> This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> 
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> 
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article:
> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
> described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
> and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
> in a relatively quick manner.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
> be mentioned.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
> reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
> teams.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
> To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
> you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
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RE: Apple watch and sleep focus

2024-01-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
first response I received simply stated what the support article said which is 
a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for just 
minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place your 
palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned 
on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We 
tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results".
Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my initial 
message, their reply, my response and then the second message where they state 
an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:

From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
To:  siegh...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
 
Hello Sieghard,

Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes.
This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.

If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.

You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:
https://support.apple.com/HT209585

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility

On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
 
From: Apple Accessibility  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
 To: siegh...@outlook.com
 Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
 
Hello Sieghard,

We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time in 
any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus does, 
you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
in a relatively quick manner.

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility

On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support article 
about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
be mentioned.
 
From: Apple Accessibility  
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
To: siegh...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch

Hello Sieghard,

We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
teams.

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility


-Original Message-
From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus

Hi all,

I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.

All the best
Angie

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Apple watch and sleep focus

2024-01-03 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
Hi all,

I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.

All the best
Angie

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Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-29 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
Have just sent an email to Apple; I’m very curious to know why this should be 
happening. I wonder if we will ever know.

All the best
Angie

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 18:23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to 
> accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that 
> you also experience this. Which watch do you have?
> You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for 
> Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour.
> Just make sure you also include the watch model you have.
>  
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep 
> focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious.
>  
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to 
> them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep 
> focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> I agree.
> I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens 
> to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures 
> have to add an extra gesture to function.
> And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>  
> I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
> for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
> described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, 
> others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the 
> double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when 
> my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, 
> I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it 
> probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to 
> add 1 tap when sleep focus is on.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
>  
> When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face 
> to feel a haptic version of the time.
>  
> When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to 
> feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic 
> time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>  
> It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. 
> Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but 
> it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
>  
>  
>  
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
&g

Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-28 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
I have Watch 8.

All the best
Angie

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 18:23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to 
> accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that 
> you also experience this. Which watch do you have?
> You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for 
> Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour.
> Just make sure you also include the watch model you have.
>  
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep 
> focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious.
>  
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to 
> them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep 
> focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> I agree.
> I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens 
> to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures 
> have to add an extra gesture to function.
> And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>  
> I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
> for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
> described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, 
> others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the 
> double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when 
> my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, 
> I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it 
> probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to 
> add 1 tap when sleep focus is on.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
>  
> When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face 
> to feel a haptic version of the time.
>  
> When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to 
> feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic 
> time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>  
> It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. 
> Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but 
> it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
>  
>  
>  
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> It does not work consistently for me.  
> I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the fi

RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to 
accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that you 
also experience this. Which watch do you have?
You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for 
Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour.
Just make sure you also include the watch model you have.

From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep 
focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious.

All the best
Angie


On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to them 
it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep focus is 
on r not and it is definitely not like that for me.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

I agree.
I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens 
to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures 
have to add an extra gesture to function.
And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/







On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others 
say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and 
tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep 
focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have 
tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably 
works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap 
when sleep focus is on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to 
feel a haptic version of the time.

When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel 
minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, 
I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/









On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently 
there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 
1-finger double or triple tap.



From:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

It does not work consistently for me.
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.





On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result

Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-27 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep 
focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious.

All the best
Angie

> On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to 
> them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep 
> focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> I agree.
> I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens 
> to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures 
> have to add an extra gesture to function.
> And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>  
> I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
> for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
> described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, 
> others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the 
> double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when 
> my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, 
> I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it 
> probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to 
> add 1 tap when sleep focus is on.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
>  
> When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face 
> to feel a haptic version of the time.
>  
> When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to 
> feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic 
> time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>  
> It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. 
> Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but 
> it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
>  
>  
>  
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
>  
> It does not work consistently for me.  
> I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
> tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.  
> If voice over is turned off, it does not work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>  
> A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
> again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas 
> others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.
>  
> On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good 
> consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. 
> First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the 
> email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture 
> exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any 
> exceptions:
>  
> Hello Sieghard,
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downward

RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to them 
it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep focus is 
on r not and it is definitely not like that for me.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

I agree.
I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens 
to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures 
have to add an extra gesture to function.
And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others 
say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and 
tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep 
focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have 
tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably 
works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap 
when sleep focus is on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to 
feel a haptic version of the time.

When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel 
minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, 
I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/







On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently 
there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 
1-finger double or triple tap.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

It does not work consistently for me.
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.




On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM

Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Earle
I have the latest version of Watch OS, and I have an Apple Watch Ultra. Haptic time is very consistent for me. I would say it works 9 times out of 10. So I really can't complain about that.EarleSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2023, at 1:32 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I agree.I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function.And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say
 they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now
 over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


 

 


When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time.


 


When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.


 



 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


 
It does not work consistently for me.  

I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.  


If voice over is turned off, it does not work.








On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.


 


On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which
 I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:


 


Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same
 results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can
 escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585


 


The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at
 least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two

Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
I agree.I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function.And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic  time.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say
 they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now
 over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


 

 


When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time.


 


When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.


 



 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


 
It does not work consistently for me.  

I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.  


If voice over is turned off, it does not work.








On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.


 


On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which
 I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:


 


Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same
 results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can
 escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585


 


The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at
 least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours
 and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I

RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that 
for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the 
described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others 
say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and 
tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep 
focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have 
tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably 
works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap 
when sleep focus is on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to 
feel a haptic version of the time.

When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel 
minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, 
I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently 
there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 
1-finger double or triple tap.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

It does not work consistently for me.
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.



On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard


--
The following information is important for all members

Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time.When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch


 
It does not work consistently for me.  

I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.  


If voice over is turned off, it does not work.







On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.


 


On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which
 I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:


 


Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same
 results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can
 escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585


 


The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at
 least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours
 and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap.


 


I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at.


 


I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume
 this could also have something to do with it.


 


Best regards,


Sieghard


 


 

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
When I had that turned on, on my series 6, I think it reminded me at 10 minutes 
before the hour.
I don't know if that is customizable.


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> On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> If you have stand reminders enabled it should just remind you although I 
> don't know if it's necessary on the hour. If you had been standing/walking 
> around at say 9:45 AM then I doubt it would remind you 15 minutes later at 10 
> AM that you have to stand again.
> I do have it on, but rarely get the notification because during a normal work 
> day it is not often that I sit for more than an hour at a time.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Apple Watch Ultra 2
> 
> Hi All, and thank you for the help. Does anyone know if there is a way to get 
> Apple Watch altar two to announce when it is time for you to stand on the 
> hour. Thank you and any help would be appreciated.
> 
> God bless,
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RE: Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you have stand reminders enabled it should just remind you although I don't 
know if it's necessary on the hour. If you had been standing/walking around at 
say 9:45 AM then I doubt it would remind you 15 minutes later at 10 AM that you 
have to stand again.
I do have it on, but rarely get the notification because during a normal work 
day it is not often that I sit for more than an hour at a time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wren 
Langley
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi All, and thank you for the help. Does anyone know if there is a way to get 
Apple Watch altar two to announce when it is time for you to stand on the hour. 
Thank you and any help would be appreciated.

God bless,
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RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently 
there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 
1-finger double or triple tap.



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Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

It does not work consistently for me.
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.


On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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2023-12-24 Thread Wren Langley
Hi All, and thank you for the help. Does anyone know if there is a way to get 
Apple Watch altar two to announce when it is time for you to stand on the hour. 
Thank you and any help would be appreciated.

God bless,
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RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The three and four taps work pretty reliably for me whether I have sleep mode 
on or not. I have an SE, and I do have sleep when wrist down set to on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 7:01 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

It does not work consistently for me.
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.


On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Nicola Sanders
Hi all,
I have a Series 7 Apple Watch (41 mm). I am still running Watch OS 9, as I 
gathered that there were some bugs with version 10.
I use Taptic Time frequently, and pretty consistently. I also have Sleep Focus 
enabled, but in my case this does not alter the number of taps required: 
regardless of the time, I always do a one-finger double tap for hours and 
minutes, and a one-finger triple tap for just minutes.
If I want the watch to remain silent, I turn speech off using a three-finger 
double tap, the same gesture as on the phone. Haptic Time works fine when 
speech is turned off. My watch is not an SE, by the way, it's the standard 
model. I hope this is helpful.
Best,
Nicky

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Dec 2023, at 13:24, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> This is wonderful feedback, my friend.  Thank you for posting.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
> 
> A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
> again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas 
> others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.
> 
> On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good 
> consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. 
> First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the 
> email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture 
> exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any 
> exceptions:
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
> tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
> start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced 
> this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all 
> is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 
> PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple 
> tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a 
> quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the 
> minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get 
> just minutes after a triple tap.
> 
> I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
> the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
> definitely be something they take a closer look at.
> 
> I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
> tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
> always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
> assume this could also have something to do with it.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread M. Taylor
This is wonderful feedback, my friend.  Thank you for posting.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-24 Thread Tom Rash
It does not work consistently for me.  
I have S E version of the watch.  It seems like the first time I do a triple 
tap, it doesn’t work.  If I try it again, it usually works.  
If voice over is turned off, it does not work.

> On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
> again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas 
> others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.
>  
> On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good 
> consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. 
> First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the 
> email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture 
> exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any 
> exceptions:
>  
> Hello Sieghard,
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585
>  
> The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
> tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
> start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced 
> this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all 
> is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 
> PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple 
> tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a 
> quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the 
> minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get 
> just minutes after a triple tap.
>  
> I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
> the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
> definitely be something they take a closer look at.
>  
> I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
> tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
> always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
> assume this could also have something to do with it.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

2023-12-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-17 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone
 

 

Thank you. I appreciate this.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 02:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if 
your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply.

 

From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.

Is there such a thing.

 

Thanks.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple 

watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Hi,

 

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.

The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

 

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

 

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.

I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.

Here is what I discovered:

 

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.

I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.

However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

 

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

 

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.

According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

 

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support 
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>
 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If I do a triple tap during the day all I get is minutes and I can reproduce 
this over and over.
Just now, it’s 11:45 PM so well past the start of my 10:30 PM sleep focus, a 
double tap once again does nothing and the triple tap consistently gives me 
hours and minutes in haptic time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if 
your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply.

From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, that is how I have it set up, sleep focus starts at 10:30 PM and that is 
the case on both my iPhone and Apple Watch. If I get up at 6:30 AM or any time 
before 7, I often get a notification on my watcch which says “It looks like you 
are awake” and I am then asked if I want to turn off the 7 AM alarm.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes 
on my iPhone, it’ll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> 
focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don’t have my watch 
with me right now, but I’d check to see if there’s a way to toggle focus in the 
control panel.

BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into 
sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and 
configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone.

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From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes 
on my iPhone, it'll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> 
focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don't have my watch 
with me right now, but I'd check to see if there's a way to toggle focus in the 
control panel.

BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into 
sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and 
configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone.

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From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
Sieghard
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sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone
 

 

Hi all,

 

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.

Is there such a thing.

 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple 

watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Hi,

 

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.

The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

 

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

 

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.

I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.

Here is what I discovered:

 

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.

I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.

However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

 

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

 

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.

According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

 

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support 
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>
 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe 
this plays into it somehow.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2


On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger 
double taps.  I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.



I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never 
gotten that to work either.  Poor sighted folks. :)



Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
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Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread Dan


  
  
On my Apple Watch SE I have never been
able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps.  I have
always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.

  
I have also turned VO off and tried the 2
finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work
either.  Poor sighted folks. :)

  
Dan Beaver 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher
  Chaltain wrote:


  
  
Interesting. I’m not sure anyone
other than myself has said they use three and four taps for
haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep
mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere
that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set
to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked
this way through multiple
  
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested
to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have
something that works pretty reliably for me.
 

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  Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

  
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
  

 
Hi,
 
According to Apple, Voiceover users can use
  the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple
      Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and
  minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want
  minutes indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch
  screen is off/asleep.
 
In a recent discussion it seems many people
  say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3
  times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes.
 
I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm
  that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I
  discovered the following which probably applies also to my
  series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have
  the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it
  comes to selling stuff.
Here is what I discovered:
 
I have a daily “sleep” focus set which
  starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g.
  the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing
  except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts
  hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just
  the minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM
  and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the
  double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the
  triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep
  focus is active it will give me hours and minutes.
 
I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message
  regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure
  until they reply.
 
What I don’t understand is that why we
  can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic
  time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available
  to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you
  said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of
  “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use
  Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment
  to get haptic time.
 
Tell time with haptic feedback on
    Apple Watch - Apple Support
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


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Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread alban hoxha


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
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If I were the group mod or owner he would’ve been removed long ago.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?



On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha 
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Hi Keith,

All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger 
> mailto:kgkramlin...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my 
> iPhone and my Apple Watch.
> How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would 
> be appreciated.
> Thanks. Keith
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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread Ryan Mann
This same person is on other email lists that I am subscribed to.  He does the same thing on the other groups.  I wonder if this  is a bot instead of a human. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Dec 5, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:If I were the group mod or owner he would’ve been removed long ago. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon OlivaresSent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:33 AMTo: VIPhone Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi, Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha <albanhoxha1...@outlook.com> wrote:  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 1:10:26 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,  Hi Keith,All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.Hope this helps,JennJenn and Kumi> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger <kgkramlin...@outlook.com> wrote:> > Hi,> I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my iPhone and my Apple Watch.> How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would be appreciated.> Thanks. Keith> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DM5PR02MB3179E350DA1EF87B7E38F8F4DE87A%40DM5PR02MB3179.namprd02.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2E51FE11-31D6-41A6-8F45-B2227A52A62B%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AS8P251MB02945D6884D7BE3B92DB9845C985A%40AS8P251MB0294.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscrib

RE: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I’d encourage you to follow the wishes of the owner and moderator of this list, 
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or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself” I’m not sure 
what the issue is behind the blank posts, but long time list members should 
know these should not be brought up on list. I end up having to use the delete 
key two or three times instead of just once.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

If I were the group mod or owner he would’ve been removed long ago.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:33 AM
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Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?


On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha 
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Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

Hi Keith,

All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger 
> mailto:kgkramlin...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my 
> iPhone and my Apple Watch.
> How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would 
> be appreciated.
> Thanks. Keith
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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread curmudgeon
Hi, this is Kelly I'm his daughter my father passed away in MayOn Dec 5, 2023, at 7:32 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:If I were the group mod or owner he would’ve been removed long ago. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon OlivaresSent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:33 AMTo: VIPhone Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi, Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha <albanhoxha1...@outlook.com> wrote:  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 1:10:26 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,  Hi Keith,All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.Hope this helps,JennJenn and Kumi> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger <kgkramlin...@outlook.com> wrote:> > Hi,> I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my iPhone and my Apple Watch.> How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would be appreciated.> Thanks. Keith> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DM5PR02MB3179E350DA1EF87B7E38F8F4DE87A%40DM5PR02MB3179.namprd02.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2E51FE11-31D6-41A6-8F45-B2227A52A62B%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AS8P251MB02945D6884D7BE3B92DB9845C985A%40AS8P251MB0294.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/25

RE: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread Dennis Long
If I were the group mod or owner he would’ve been removed long ago.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:33 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,
 
Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?



On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha mailto:albanhoxha1...@outlook.com> > wrote:
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi, 
 
Hi Keith,

All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger  <mailto:kgkramlin...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my 
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> How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would 
> be appreciated.
> Thanks. Keith
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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread Brandon Olivares
Is anything ever going to be done about these empty messages?

> On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:31 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Jennie 
> Facer 
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>  
> Hi Keith,
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> All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
> reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.
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> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
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> > Hi,
> > I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my 
> > iPhone and my Apple Watch.
> > How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide 
> > would be appreciated.
> > Thanks. Keith
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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-05 Thread alban hoxha


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Jennie 
Facer 
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 1:10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

Hi Keith,

All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
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> be appreciated.
> Thanks. Keith
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Re: How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-03 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Keith,

All you have to do is double tap the side button and then hold it up to the 
reader. It has be unlocked on your wrist.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
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> Hi,
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> be appreciated.
> Thanks. Keith
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How do I use Apple Pay from my Apple Watch? Hi,

2023-12-03 Thread Keith Kramlinger
Hi,
I have my credit card loaded into Apple Pay and in my wallet on both my iPhone 
and my Apple Watch.
How do I use my Apple Watch to pay with Apple Pay? A step-by-step guide would 
be appreciated.
Thanks. Keith

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Re: Apple Watch 9 health results

2023-11-05 Thread alban hoxha
yes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Fanus 
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:32:21 PM
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Hello list
Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters
accessible with VoiceOver?
Regards
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Re: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11

2023-11-01 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Sieghard
Thanks for your explanation.
Regards
Fanus


On 10/31/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You can certainly continue to use iOS 17, if there will be major security
> issues Apple will release updates even to versions of iOS which are long
> gone, recently updates were released for both iOS 16 and even iOS 15 for
> some security issue.
> And if you buy an Apple Watch 9 you can certainly update your watch to the
> latest Watch OS even if your iPhone can't be updated to newer versions of
> iOS. Currently if  you buy an Apple Watch 9 you get Watch OS 10 with it and
> I assume you will get Watch OS updates for at least 5 or 6 years for that
> watch. Watch OS this year can be installed on Apple Watches as old as the
> series 4 which was released in 2018 along with the iPhone XS/XS Max and XR.
> Guess we have to see if Watch OS 11 in September 2024 still supports the
> Apple Watch 4 or if the Apple Watch 5 will then be the oldest supported
> model.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Fanus
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11
>
> Hello list
>
> I am considering to purchase an apple watch 9 but my concern is that my
> iPhone 11 will probably not be upgradable to the next IOS version next year.
> So my question is if I would be able to use apple watch 9 and IOS
> 17 on the iPhone for a few years to come. Due to our week exchange rate here
> in South Africa I doubt it if I will ever be able to upgrade my iPhone 11.
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
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RE: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11

2023-10-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can certainly continue to use iOS 17, if there will be major security 
issues Apple will release updates even to versions of iOS which are long gone, 
recently updates were released for both iOS 16 and even iOS 15 for some 
security issue.
And if you buy an Apple Watch 9 you can certainly update your watch to the 
latest Watch OS even if your iPhone can't be updated to newer versions of iOS. 
Currently if  you buy an Apple Watch 9 you get Watch OS 10 with it and I assume 
you will get Watch OS updates for at least 5 or 6 years for that watch. Watch 
OS this year can be installed on Apple Watches as old as the series 4 which was 
released in 2018 along with the iPhone XS/XS Max and XR. Guess we have to see 
if Watch OS 11 in September 2024 still supports the Apple Watch 4 or if the 
Apple Watch 5 will then be the oldest supported model.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11

Hello list

I am considering to purchase an apple watch 9 but my concern is that my iPhone 
11 will probably not be upgradable to the next IOS version next year. So my 
question is if I would be able to use apple watch 9 and IOS
17 on the iPhone for a few years to come. Due to our week exchange rate here in 
South Africa I doubt it if I will ever be able to upgrade my iPhone 11.

Regards

Fanus


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apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11

2023-10-31 Thread Fanus

Hello list

I am considering to purchase an apple watch 9 but my concern is that my 
iPhone 11 will probably not be upgradable to the next IOS version next 
year. So my question is if I would be able to use apple watch 9 and IOS 
17 on the iPhone for a few years to come. Due to our week exchange rate 
here in South Africa I doubt it if I will ever be able to upgrade my 
iPhone 11.


Regards

Fanus


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RE: Apple Watch 9 health results

2023-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can even set heart rate as one of your complications and then it's always 
there on your watch face.


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Buys
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Hello list
Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters accessible 
with VoiceOver?
Regards
Fanus

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RE: Apple Watch 9 health results

2023-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, and you do have a Health app on the watch.


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Hello list
Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters accessible 
with VoiceOver?
Regards
Fanus

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Re: Apple Watch 9 health results

2023-10-20 Thread Wayne Merritt
Yes, they are. You will have to go into the Health app on your iPhone
or iPad in order to view the results. You may be able to view results
from the apps or complications on your Series 9 watch, but I have
gotten more information on my iPhone, not to mention had an easier
time navigating the larger screen.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 10/20/23, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> Hello list
> Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters
> accessible with VoiceOver?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Apple Watch 9 health results

2023-10-20 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello list
Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters
accessible with VoiceOver?
Regards
Fanus

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RE: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No, I'll take a look one of these days, but then again there are a lot of 
things I want to do one of these days. By the time I do those things I have to 
do a lot of time often goes by.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

Have you played around yet with widgets on the watch face? I have a couple on 
my phone but haven't really needed them on the watch since I've got the 
information I want and need from my complications.

Wayne

On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And yes, you are correct or almost correct, I don't only have little 
> usable vision, I have absolutely 0 vision including light/dark since 
> both of my eyes were destroyed in the accident I was in when I was 16 
> and are now prosthetics.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2
>
> That's great to hear of your experience with the Ultra 2. Another 
> reason why your battery is lasting longer is that you don't need the always 
> on display.
> If you have some vision you might, but from your posts over the years, 
> I don't think you have much usable vision. As a result you wouldn't 
> need the display to be on all the time. While I don't really have a 
> need for the Ultra, not to mention the ultra-price, I did upgrade from 
> my old standby Series 6 to a Series 9.
> The extra millimeter I got also makes a lot of difference. I'm using a 
> watch face with 6 complications going mostly down the right side and 
> across the bottom of the display. Now that I know where each one is 
> located, the larger display lets me touch that area instead of 
> flicking through everything to find certain information. I still 
> flick, but I find myself more often going to that part of the display.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
>
> On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch 
>> Ultra last year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would 
>> post my thoughts on this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple 
>> Watch Ultra 2 and I chose the Trail Loop as the band since it seemed 
>> closest in design to the Milanese Loop which I had on  my first Apple 
>> Watch in 2016, a series 2, and also on my Apple Watch series 5 which 
>> I bought in 2019.
>>
>> I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like 
>> the Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in 
>> February/March and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll 
>> have to get one of these Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I 
>> don't like the Trail Loop for daily use I would simply buy a 
>> third-party Milanese Loop on Amazon, Apple doesn't offer it when you 
>> order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it is my understanding that any 
>> band of the other watches will also work on the Ultra. But after a 
>> few days I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just as easy to 
>> use as the Milanese Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the velcro 
>> tabs on it and it's even more secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a 
>> magnet to stay where you put it can get loose if your watch gets 
>> caught on something.
>>
>> I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I 
>> find the larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with 
>> especially with respect to turning the rotor and gestures like the 
>> scrub for going back a screen and everything is just so snappy and 
>> fast. I did have a chance to briefly put somebody's Apple Watch Ultra 
>> from last year on my wrist as I was a bit concerned with the size, 
>> but I must say it's not an issue at all and the watch is amazingly 
>> light given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop stainless steel band 
>> on my Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2 and just 
>> holding them in my hand I can't even tell the difference although the 
>> Ultra 2 itself says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple 
>> Watch 5 which when I looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe 
>> the stainless steel band really make the difference.
>>
>> Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery 
>> life.
>> The first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9 
>> in the morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 
>> 10 PM 2 days lat

Re: New apple watch se user

2023-10-10 Thread Jen .
Hi,
Thanks for this info.
Jen

> On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:01 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Here is what I would do.
> 
> 1. When you turn your watch on, wait a little bit, then press the Digital 
> Crown in 3 times. This will enable VoiceOver.
> 2. Open your watch app. Tap pair new watch
> 3. When it asks you to use the camera, navigate by swiping right with 1 
> finger to the “Pair manually” button.
> 4. Tap pair manually on your watch as well by swiping right with 1 finger
> 5. The watch will give you a 6-digit code to put in your phone.
> 
> Once you do that, your watch will become paired and it will be easy to follow 
> instructions.
> 
> If you want to join my Apple Watch group, please send a blank message to:
> watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> We will approve you, and you can ask all kinds of watch questions. You can 
> also ask them here, but it is another avenue.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jen .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just received an Apple Watch SE and I'm going to pair it this afternoon to 
>> my phone. Wondering if there's anything I need to know as well as what apps 
>> and faces etc. do you guys all find helpful and enjoyable.
>> Are there any settings that should be changed to better assist a complete 
>> voiceover user any help would be appreciated as I am new to the Apple Watch 
>> world.
>> Jen
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Re: New apple watch se user

2023-10-10 Thread Jennie Facer
Hello,

Here is what I would do.

1. When you turn your watch on, wait a little bit, then press the Digital Crown 
in 3 times. This will enable VoiceOver.
2. Open your watch app. Tap pair new watch
3. When it asks you to use the camera, navigate by swiping right with 1 finger 
to the “Pair manually” button.
4. Tap pair manually on your watch as well by swiping right with 1 finger
5. The watch will give you a 6-digit code to put in your phone.

Once you do that, your watch will become paired and it will be easy to follow 
instructions.

If you want to join my Apple Watch group, please send a blank message to:
watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.io

We will approve you, and you can ask all kinds of watch questions. You can also 
ask them here, but it is another avenue.

Thanks,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 10, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I just received an Apple Watch SE and I'm going to pair it this afternoon to 
> my phone. Wondering if there's anything I need to know as well as what apps 
> and faces etc. do you guys all find helpful and enjoyable.
> Are there any settings that should be changed to better assist a complete 
> voiceover user any help would be appreciated as I am new to the Apple Watch 
> world.
> Jen
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Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-10 Thread Wayne Merritt
Have you played around yet with widgets on the watch face? I have a
couple on my phone but haven't really needed them on the watch since
I've got the information I want and need from my complications.

Wayne

On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And yes, you are correct or almost correct, I don't only have little usable
> vision, I have absolutely 0 vision including light/dark since both of my
> eyes were destroyed in the accident I was in when I was 16 and are now
> prosthetics.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2
>
> That's great to hear of your experience with the Ultra 2. Another reason why
> your battery is lasting longer is that you don't need the always on display.
> If you have some vision you might, but from your posts over the years, I
> don't think you have much usable vision. As a result you wouldn't need the
> display to be on all the time. While I don't really have a need for the
> Ultra, not to mention the ultra-price, I did upgrade from my old standby
> Series 6 to a Series 9.
> The extra millimeter I got also makes a lot of difference. I'm using a watch
> face with 6 complications going mostly down the right side and across the
> bottom of the display. Now that I know where each one is located, the larger
> display lets me touch that area instead of flicking through everything to
> find certain information. I still flick, but I find myself more often going
> to that part of the display.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
>
> On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch
>> Ultra last year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would
>> post my thoughts on this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple
>> Watch Ultra 2 and I chose the Trail Loop as the band since it seemed
>> closest in design to the Milanese Loop which I had on  my first Apple
>> Watch in 2016, a series 2, and also on my Apple Watch series 5 which I
>> bought in 2019.
>>
>> I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like
>> the Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in
>> February/March and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll
>> have to get one of these Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I
>> don't like the Trail Loop for daily use I would simply buy a
>> third-party Milanese Loop on Amazon, Apple doesn't offer it when you
>> order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it is my understanding that any band
>> of the other watches will also work on the Ultra. But after a few days
>> I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just as easy to use as the
>> Milanese Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the velcro tabs on it
>> and it's even more secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a magnet to
>> stay where you put it can get loose if your watch gets caught on
>> something.
>>
>> I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I
>> find the larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with
>> especially with respect to turning the rotor and gestures like the
>> scrub for going back a screen and everything is just so snappy and
>> fast. I did have a chance to briefly put somebody's Apple Watch Ultra
>> from last year on my wrist as I was a bit concerned with the size, but
>> I must say it's not an issue at all and the watch is amazingly light
>> given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop stainless steel band on my
>> Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2 and just holding them
>> in my hand I can't even tell the difference although the Ultra 2
>> itself says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple Watch 5
>> which when I looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe the stainless
>> steel band really make the difference.
>>
>> Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery
>> life.
>> The first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9
>> in the morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 10
>> PM 2 days later that I should charge it before going to bed, that is
>> just over 60 hours.
>>
>> Just now it's 1:30 PM on Monday and I had it fully charged last night
>> and put it back on around 10 PM so about 16 hours ago and I am now at
>> 72%.
>>
>> Apple says 36 hours with regular use and 72 hours in battery saver
>> mode, but it seems at least with my usage which is checking time,
>> notifications and taki

New apple watch se user

2023-10-10 Thread Jen .
Hi,
I just received an Apple Watch SE and I'm going to pair it this afternoon to my 
phone. Wondering if there's anything I need to know as well as what apps and 
faces etc. do you guys all find helpful and enjoyable.
Are there any settings that should be changed to better assist a complete 
voiceover user any help would be appreciated as I am new to the Apple Watch 
world.
Jen

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RE: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And yes, you are correct or almost correct, I don't only have little usable 
vision, I have absolutely 0 vision including light/dark since both of my eyes 
were destroyed in the accident I was in when I was 16 and are now prosthetics.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

That's great to hear of your experience with the Ultra 2. Another reason why 
your battery is lasting longer is that you don't need the always on display. If 
you have some vision you might, but from your posts over the years, I don't 
think you have much usable vision. As a result you wouldn't need the display to 
be on all the time. While I don't really have a need for the Ultra, not to 
mention the ultra-price, I did upgrade from my old standby Series 6 to a Series 
9.
The extra millimeter I got also makes a lot of difference. I'm using a watch 
face with 6 complications going mostly down the right side and across the 
bottom of the display. Now that I know where each one is located, the larger 
display lets me touch that area instead of flicking through everything to find 
certain information. I still flick, but I find myself more often going to that 
part of the display.

Warmly,
Wayne

On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch 
> Ultra last year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would 
> post my thoughts on this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple 
> Watch Ultra 2 and I chose the Trail Loop as the band since it seemed 
> closest in design to the Milanese Loop which I had on  my first Apple 
> Watch in 2016, a series 2, and also on my Apple Watch series 5 which I bought 
> in 2019.
>
> I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like 
> the Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in 
> February/March and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll 
> have to get one of these Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I 
> don't like the Trail Loop for daily use I would simply buy a 
> third-party Milanese Loop on Amazon, Apple doesn't offer it when you 
> order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it is my understanding that any band 
> of the other watches will also work on the Ultra. But after a few days 
> I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just as easy to use as the 
> Milanese Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the velcro tabs on it 
> and it's even more secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a magnet to 
> stay where you put it can get loose if your watch gets caught on something.
>
> I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I 
> find the larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with 
> especially with respect to turning the rotor and gestures like the 
> scrub for going back a screen and everything is just so snappy and 
> fast. I did have a chance to briefly put somebody's Apple Watch Ultra 
> from last year on my wrist as I was a bit concerned with the size, but 
> I must say it's not an issue at all and the watch is amazingly light 
> given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop stainless steel band on my 
> Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2 and just holding them 
> in my hand I can't even tell the difference although the Ultra 2 
> itself says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple Watch 5 
> which when I looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe the stainless 
> steel band really make the difference.
>
> Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery life.
> The first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9 
> in the morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 10 
> PM 2 days later that I should charge it before going to bed, that is 
> just over 60 hours.
>
> Just now it's 1:30 PM on Monday and I had it fully charged last night 
> and put it back on around 10 PM so about 16 hours ago and I am now at 72%.
>
> Apple says 36 hours with regular use and 72 hours in battery saver 
> mode, but it seems at least with my usage which is checking time, 
> notifications and taking the odd call on it, it seems to go well past 
> 36 hours. Maybe if I used the workout app or more GPS features it 
> would be closer to what Apple says, haven't had it long enough yet to do all 
> that.
> For now I still use the Infograph watch face as it can have up to 8 
> complications, but I also like some of the extra options you get with 
> the Ultra like elevation. I haven't tried things like the GPS "backtrack"
> feature to see how accessible that is.
> To my surprise I found that Eloquence Reed is quite nice for the Apple 
> Wat

RE: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Wayne,

I was a little torn between a regular series 9 and as you maybe to go with the 
larger size since my series 5 was just the 40 mm. However, I liked the idea of 
the action button as well as the slightly louder speaker volume and the scuba 
dive features even though I really don't get to dive that much.
I agree with respect to complications, most have one in each corner of the 
screen, some have a third in the middle on the bottom and then you have some 
stuff in the middle.
I always put battery at the top left, I usually have sunrise/sunset at the top 
right, my store's alarm app on the bottom left and Phone on the bottom right.
In the middle I have heart rate and usually I can just slide down a little for 
the time although it's always spoken if I wake up the watch and you can of 
course set another complication like battery status or heart rate or 
sunrise/sunset to auto speak when you tap the screen if you wish.

-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

That's great to hear of your experience with the Ultra 2. Another reason why 
your battery is lasting longer is that you don't need the always on display. If 
you have some vision you might, but from your posts over the years, I don't 
think you have much usable vision. As a result you wouldn't need the display to 
be on all the time. While I don't really have a need for the Ultra, not to 
mention the ultra-price, I did upgrade from my old standby Series 6 to a Series 
9.
The extra millimeter I got also makes a lot of difference. I'm using a watch 
face with 6 complications going mostly down the right side and across the 
bottom of the display. Now that I know where each one is located, the larger 
display lets me touch that area instead of flicking through everything to find 
certain information. I still flick, but I find myself more often going to that 
part of the display.

Warmly,
Wayne

On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch 
> Ultra last year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would 
> post my thoughts on this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple 
> Watch Ultra 2 and I chose the Trail Loop as the band since it seemed 
> closest in design to the Milanese Loop which I had on  my first Apple 
> Watch in 2016, a series 2, and also on my Apple Watch series 5 which I bought 
> in 2019.
>
> I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like 
> the Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in 
> February/March and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll 
> have to get one of these Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I 
> don't like the Trail Loop for daily use I would simply buy a 
> third-party Milanese Loop on Amazon, Apple doesn't offer it when you 
> order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it is my understanding that any band 
> of the other watches will also work on the Ultra. But after a few days 
> I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just as easy to use as the 
> Milanese Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the velcro tabs on it 
> and it's even more secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a magnet to 
> stay where you put it can get loose if your watch gets caught on something.
>
> I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I 
> find the larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with 
> especially with respect to turning the rotor and gestures like the 
> scrub for going back a screen and everything is just so snappy and 
> fast. I did have a chance to briefly put somebody's Apple Watch Ultra 
> from last year on my wrist as I was a bit concerned with the size, but 
> I must say it's not an issue at all and the watch is amazingly light 
> given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop stainless steel band on my 
> Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2 and just holding them 
> in my hand I can't even tell the difference although the Ultra 2 
> itself says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple Watch 5 
> which when I looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe the stainless 
> steel band really make the difference.
>
> Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery life.
> The first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9 
> in the morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 10 
> PM 2 days later that I should charge it before going to bed, that is 
> just over 60 hours.
>
> Just now it's 1:30 PM on Monday and I had it fully charged last night 
> and put it back on around 10 PM so about 16 hours ago and I am now at 72%.
>
> Apple says 36 hours with regular use and 72 h

Re: The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
That's great to hear of your experience with the Ultra 2. Another
reason why your battery is lasting longer is that you don't need the
always on display. If you have some vision you might, but from your
posts over the years, I don't think you have much usable vision. As a
result you wouldn't need the display to be on all the time. While I
don't really have a need for the Ultra, not to mention the
ultra-price, I did upgrade from my old standby Series 6 to a Series 9.
The extra millimeter I got also makes a lot of difference. I'm using a
watch face with 6 complications going mostly down the right side and
across the bottom of the display. Now that I know where each one is
located, the larger display lets me touch that area instead of
flicking through everything to find certain information. I still
flick, but I find myself more often going to that part of the display.

Warmly,
Wayne

On 10/9/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra
> last year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would post my
> thoughts on this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and
> I chose the Trail Loop as the band since it seemed closest in design to the
> Milanese Loop which I had on  my first Apple Watch in 2016, a series 2, and
> also on my Apple Watch series 5 which I bought in 2019.
>
> I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like the
> Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in
> February/March and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll have to
> get one of these Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I don't like the
> Trail Loop for daily use I would simply buy a third-party Milanese Loop on
> Amazon, Apple doesn't offer it when you order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it
> is my understanding that any band of the other watches will also work on the
> Ultra. But after a few days I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just
> as easy to use as the Milanese Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the
> velcro tabs on it and it's even more secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a
> magnet to stay where you put it can get loose if your watch gets caught on
> something.
>
> I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I find the
> larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with especially with
> respect to turning the rotor and gestures like the scrub for going back a
> screen and everything is just so snappy and fast. I did have a chance to
> briefly put somebody's Apple Watch Ultra from last year on my wrist as I was
> a bit concerned with the size, but I must say it's not an issue at all and
> the watch is amazingly light given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop
> stainless steel band on my Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2
> and just holding them in my hand I can't even tell the difference although
> the Ultra 2 itself says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple
> Watch 5 which when I looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe the
> stainless steel band really make the difference.
>
> Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery life.
> The first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9 in the
> morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 10 PM 2 days
> later that I should charge it before going to bed, that is just over 60
> hours.
>
> Just now it's 1:30 PM on Monday and I had it fully charged last night and
> put it back on around 10 PM so about 16 hours ago and I am now at 72%.
>
> Apple says 36 hours with regular use and 72 hours in battery saver mode, but
> it seems at least with my usage which is checking time, notifications and
> taking the odd call on it, it seems to go well past 36 hours. Maybe if I
> used the workout app or more GPS features it would be closer to what Apple
> says, haven't had it long enough yet to do all that.
> For now I still use the Infograph watch face as it can have up to 8
> complications, but I also like some of the extra options you get with the
> Ultra like elevation. I haven't tried things like the GPS "backtrack"
> feature to see how accessible that is.
> To my surprise I found that Eloquence Reed is quite nice for the Apple
> Watch, of course very responsive and I can comnfortably use it at 70% speed.
> On my iPhone I prefer US English Siri Voice 4, but for some reason I find it
> doesn't sound as good on the Apple Watch Ultra and if I don't use Reed I
> prefer US English Siri Voice 1 which is the original male Siri voice and
> which sounds very clear and nice.
> All in all I really like the Ultra 2 and while it comes with a premium
> price, I think it will be hard to ever go back to a regular Apple W

The first few days with my Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-10-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,



Since I asked a few weeks ago if anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last 
year regretted it because of the size, I thought I would post my thoughts on 
this. I decided to go ahead and order an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I chose the 
Trail Loop as the band since it seemed closest in design to the Milanese Loop 
which I had on  my first Apple Watch in 2016, a series 2, and also on my Apple 
Watch series 5 which I bought in 2019.

I figured I could always return it and exchange it for something like the 
Marine Loop since I am going to the Philipppines with my wife in February/March 
and plan to use the Ultra 2 for scuba diving so I'll have to get one of these 
Marine Loop bands anyways. I thought if I don't like the Trail Loop for daily 
use I would simply buy a third-party Milanese Loop on Amazon, Apple doesn't 
offer it when you order an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but it is my understanding that 
any band of the other watches will also work on the Ultra. But after a few days 
I think I'l stick with the Trail Loop, it's just as easy to use as the Milanese 
Loop and infinitely adjustable due to the velcro tabs on it and it's even more 
secure as my Milanese Loop which uses a magnet to stay where you put it can get 
loose if your watch gets caught on something.

I must say, however, that I definitely don't regret the upgrade, I find the 
larger screen of the Ultra is much easier to work with especially with respect 
to turning the rotor and gestures like the scrub for going back a screen and 
everything is just so snappy and fast. I did have a chance to briefly put 
somebody's Apple Watch Ultra from last year on my wrist as I was a bit 
concerned with the size, but I must say it's not an issue at all and the watch 
is amazingly light given it's size. I have the Milanese Loop stainless steel 
band on my Apple Watch 5 and the Trail Loop on the Ultra 2 and just holding 
them in my hand I can't even tell the difference although the Ultra 2 itself 
says it is 61 grams and we had the 40mm Aluminum Apple Watch 5 which when I 
looked it up says it is half the weight; maybe the stainless steel band really 
make the difference.

Another thing I really like about the Ultra 2 is the amazing battery life. The 
first time I charged it and took it off the charger around 8 or 9 in the 
morning and I then didn't put it back when I was notified at 10 PM 2 days later 
that I should charge it before going to bed, that is just over 60 hours.

Just now it's 1:30 PM on Monday and I had it fully charged last night and put 
it back on around 10 PM so about 16 hours ago and I am now at 72%.

Apple says 36 hours with regular use and 72 hours in battery saver mode, but it 
seems at least with my usage which is checking time, notifications and taking 
the odd call on it, it seems to go well past 36 hours. Maybe if I used the 
workout app or more GPS features it would be closer to what Apple says, haven't 
had it long enough yet to do all that.
For now I still use the Infograph watch face as it can have up to 8 
complications, but I also like some of the extra options you get with the Ultra 
like elevation. I haven't tried things like the GPS "backtrack" feature to see 
how accessible that is.
To my surprise I found that Eloquence Reed is quite nice for the Apple Watch, 
of course very responsive and I can comnfortably use it at 70% speed. On my 
iPhone I prefer US English Siri Voice 4, but for some reason I find it doesn't 
sound as good on the Apple Watch Ultra and if I don't use Reed I prefer US 
English Siri Voice 1 which is the original male Siri voice and which sounds 
very clear and nice.
All in all I really like the Ultra 2 and while it comes with a premium price, I 
think it will be hard to ever go back to a regular Apple Watch, but in any 
case, I had my series 5 for 4 years and I predict I'll have the Ultra 2 for at 
least this long or maybe longer unless of course Apple releases some amazing 
new watch in 3 years.

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RE: Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not that it should make a huge difference, but did you make sure you specified 
in the app that you wear the watch on the right and which way the crown is 
facing?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Rotor On Apple Watch?

Do we have to activate it? I wear the watch on the right wrist with crown 
facing my fingers. I try to turn it with my left hand but apparently, nothing 
seems to be happening.
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:42 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?

Yes we do, It works just like on the phone.

Best,
Anna


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Do we have rotor on Apple watch?
Thanks!

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RE: Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Now that’s just twisted, Anna!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:54 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?

Hi,

No, you don’t have to activate it. Make sure both fingers are on the screen, 
not the edge, and twist as normal.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 5, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:

Do we have to activate it? I wear the watch on the right wrist with crown 
facing my fingers. I try to turn it with my left hand but apparently, nothing 
seems to be happening.
Thanks!

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?

Yes we do, It works just like on the phone.

Best,
Anna




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Do we have rotor on Apple watch?
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Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

No, you don’t have to activate it. Make sure both fingers are on the screen, 
not the edge, and twist as normal.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 5, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Do we have to activate it? I wear the watch on the right wrist with crown 
> facing my fingers. I try to turn it with my left hand but apparently, nothing 
> seems to be happening.
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:42 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?
>  
> Yes we do, It works just like on the phone.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2023, at 1:40 PM, Mohammad Fazil  <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> Do we have rotor on Apple watch?
> Thanks!
>  
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RE: Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Do we have to activate it? I wear the watch on the right wrist with crown 
facing my fingers. I try to turn it with my left hand but apparently, nothing 
seems to be happening.
Thanks!

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Yes we do, It works just like on the phone.

Best,
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Do we have rotor on Apple watch?
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Re: Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Anna Dresner
Yes we do, It works just like on the phone.

Best,
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Rotor On Apple Watch?

2023-10-05 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Do we have rotor on Apple watch?
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RE: Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Not sure if this is the problem or not, but to enter your passcode on the Apple 
Watch you need to double tap each digit. At least for me, and unless this has 
changed, touch typing doesn't work with the passcode on the Apple Watch.

Did you set up your passcode, and do you know what it is? Is not the same 
passcode you have on your iPhone.

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Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
passcode but the digits are dimmed.
What should I do to enter the passcode, please?
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RE: Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No idea, you may have to contact Apple Accessibility to get help with this.

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Fazil
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Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
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Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-04 Thread Mohammad Fazil

Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
passcode but the digits are dimmed.
What should I do to enter the passcode, please?
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Re: Turning Voiceover On for Apple Watch Via Phone?

2023-10-04 Thread Jennie Facer
What you do is on your phone, open the watch app, go to accessibility, then go 
to VoiceOver and turn it on.

Jenn
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RE: Starting Voiceover on Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Press the digital crown (the big button) 3 times just like you would press the 
side button on the iPhone 3 times.


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Hi, Group.
How can one start Voiceover on Apple Watch SE, please?
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Turning Voiceover On for Apple Watch Via Phone?

2023-10-03 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Hi, Group.
How can I turn on Voiceover via phone on Apple Watch SE, please?
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RE: Starting Voiceover on Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
And a third choice would be to use the Watch app on your iPhone.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:23 PM
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Two choices if you hold down the crown it's like holding down the home button 
on an iPhone SE. You can also try triple clicking the crown
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How can one start Voiceover on Apple Watch SE, please?
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Re: Starting Voiceover on Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-03 Thread Richard Turner
You should be able to press the digital crown 3 times and have VO start. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Oct 3, 2023, at 6:18 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







Hi, Group.
How can one start Voiceover on Apple Watch SE, please?
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Re: Starting Voiceover on Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-03 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Two choices if you hold down the crown it's like holding down the home 
button on an iPhone SE. You can also try triple clicking the crown
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  Hi, Group.

  How can one start Voiceover on Apple Watch SE, please?

  Thanks!


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Starting Voiceover on Apple Watch SE?

2023-10-03 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Hi, Group.
How can one start Voiceover on Apple Watch SE, please?
Thanks!

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-20 Thread ka4wxv
Hello,
Is it possible to play internet streams through the watch speaker on an Ultra?  
I have recently purchased an Ultra and have been unable to achieve this.  I 
have an older Apple watch and was using an app called Streamlets to play 
internet streams through watch speakers.  I really enjoy being independent of 
the iphone.  Thanks for any help you might provide.
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Sep 18, 2023 12:08 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

I purchased the Apple ultra watch last year and really like it. I like the fact 
that it has a bigger screen I can hear it better and I found it to actually 
wear it for a while. I dont even really notice much of a difference in 
terms of weight on my wrist. Its just there and the battery life is 
great because I can usually wear it for two days before I have to charge the 
battery And I do like the action button as well. 

Sent from Barry Abbotts iPhone

On Sep 17, 2023, at 3:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Thanks Matt, a little more space for gestures and all that is something I 
thought might be nice as well. I also assume that even if it may feel a bit big 
and thick in the beginning, you probably get used to it aftrer a few days.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?



I bought one at the end of May and really like the battery life and the action 
button. I started out with a 45 mm watch a few years ago, but my last couple 
have been 41 mm and switching to the ultra feels significantly larger than 
either of those. For one, the watch is much thicker. 


I traded watches with someone for about a week, so they could try out the 
ultra, and I didnt depreciate their watches battery life, but the size 
was a nice change, felt much less obtrusive.


With all that said, I dont think Im going back, for no other 
reason than the battery life. The larger screen makes the keyboard and other 
controls much easier to interact with. Sent from my iPhone




On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch 
series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery 
life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such 
a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't 
so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles 
away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here 
mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an 
Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a 
question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me 
put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where 
if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had 
my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy 
with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not 
by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but 
still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if 
you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
year.


Take care,
Sieghard

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-18 Thread Barry Abbott
I purchased the Apple ultra watch last year and really like it. I like the fact that it has a bigger screen I can hear it better and I found it to actually wear it for a while. I don’t even really notice much of a difference in terms of weight on my wrist. It’s just there and the battery life is great because I can usually wear it for two days before I have to charge the battery And I do like the action button as well. Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhoneOn Sep 17, 2023, at 3:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Thanks Matt, a little more space for gestures and all that is something I thought might be nice as well. I also assume that even if it may feel a bit big and thick in the beginning, you probably get used to it aftrer a few days.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Matt White
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?


 
I bought one at the end of May and really like the battery life and the action button. I started out with a 45 mm watch a few years ago, but my last couple have been 41 mm and switching to the ultra feels significantly larger than either
 of those. For one, the watch is much thicker. 

 


I traded watches with someone for about a week, so they could try out the ultra, and I didn’t depreciate their watches battery life, but the size was a nice change, felt much less obtrusive.

 


With all that said, I don’t think I’m going back, for no other reason than the battery life. The larger screen makes the keyboard and other controls much easier to interact with. Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly
 in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received
 an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy
 with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if you may have had a regular
 Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last year.
 
 
Take care,
Sieghard
 
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RE: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Thanks Matt, a little more space for gestures and all that is something I 
thought might be nice as well. I also assume that even if it may feel a bit big 
and thick in the beginning, you probably get used to it aftrer a few days.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

I bought one at the end of May and really like the battery life and the action 
button. I started out with a 45 mm watch a few years ago, but my last couple 
have been 41 mm and switching to the ultra feels significantly larger than 
either of those. For one, the watch is much thicker.

I traded watches with someone for about a week, so they could try out the 
ultra, and I didn’t depreciate their watches battery life, but the size was a 
nice change, felt much less obtrusive.

With all that said, I don’t think I’m going back, for no other reason than the 
battery life. The larger screen makes the keyboard and other controls much 
easier to interact with. Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch 
series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery 
life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such 
a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't 
so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles 
away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here 
mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an 
Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a 
question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me 
put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where 
if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had 
my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy 
with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not 
by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but 
still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if 
you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
year.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
One of my customers stopped by today and showed me his Apple Watch Ultra. I put 
it on my wrist and I was surprised that it wasn't heavier, but it's definitely 
big and sorry, but I definitely don't think of it as sexy; that word is 
reserved  for a more traditional use with me 

I was surprised that my wife liked it, I really would have thought she would 
find it big; now the issue is that if I decide to get one she probably would 
also like it and of course you can pretty much buy 2 of the regular aluminum 
cellular watches for what 1 Ultra costs. We can also afford to buy two of them, 
but it really becomes a question whether I am not too cheap for that!

I do have one more question, is there a difference in terms of being able to 
play anything like an audio book via the built-in speaker with the Ultra? This 
is still not possible with a regular Apple Watch unless it is changing now in 
Watch OS 10.

I understand the Ultra is a good bit louderbut apart from that, the action 
button and the better battery life, can it do anything else a regular Apple 
Watch can't do? And yes, I know you can use it as a scuba diving watch and 
while I do scuba dive when I have the opportunity, it's not often enough for 
this to be an important consideration.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
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Subject: Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?



Well, I upgraded from series 5 to the ultra that sleeps bigger than what I had. 
I only wish I had kept my Milanese loop because I like that loop but I know I 
can find other loops or sport watch type of bands on Amazon cheaper than an 
apple. I like the trail loop that I have. It’s the trail loop band. It has 
Velcro it’s nice but I wish I had a second band. Maybe I’ll buy one a metal one 
or something.



Sent from my iPhone



> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:25 AM, lenron brown 
> mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to

> me isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is

> different though.

>

>> On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> 
>> wrote:

>> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our

>> Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the

>> features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the 
>> size.

>> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret

>> getting such a large watch?

>> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which

>> unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where

>> we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of

>> stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly in connection with a

>> carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook

>> to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question"

>> type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me

>> put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.

>> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of

>> 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the

>> fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years

>> and that I am the only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just

>> everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of

>> my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am

>> curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if

>> you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
>> year.

>>

>>

>> Take care,

>> Sieghard

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-16 Thread Matt White
I bought one at the end of May and really like the battery life and the action button. I started out with a 45 mm watch a few years ago, but my last couple have been 41 mm and switching to the ultra feels significantly larger than either of those. For one, the watch is much thicker. I traded watches with someone for about a week, so they could try out the ultra, and I didn’t depreciate their watches battery life, but the size was a nice change, felt much less obtrusive.With all that said, I don’t think I’m going back, for no other reason than the battery life. The larger screen makes the keyboard and other controls much easier to interact with. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 16:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly
 in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received
 an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy
 with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if you may have had a regular
 Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last year.
 
 
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-16 Thread CHELA Robles
Well, I upgraded from series 5 to the ultra that sleeps bigger than what I had. 
I only wish I had kept my Milanese loop because I like that loop but I know I 
can find other loops or sport watch type of bands on Amazon cheaper than an 
apple. I like the trail loop that I have. It’s the trail loop band. It has 
Velcro it’s nice but I wish I had a second band. Maybe I’ll buy one a metal one 
or something.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:25 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to me
> isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is
> different though.
> 
>> On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple
>> Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and
>> battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
>> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting
>> such a large watch?
>> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately
>> isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700
>> miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple
>> Watch here mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these
>> stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of
>> our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be
>> willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15
>> minutes.
>> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000
>> where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I
>> have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the
>> only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me
>> by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow
>> to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to
>> say about especially if you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and
>> upgraded to an Ultra last year.
>> 
>> 
>> Take care,
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-16 Thread lenron brown
The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to me
isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is
different though.

On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple
> Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and
> battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting
> such a large watch?
> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately
> isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700
> miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple
> Watch here mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these
> stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of
> our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be
> willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15
> minutes.
> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000
> where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I
> have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the
> only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me
> by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow
> to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to
> say about especially if you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and
> upgraded to an Ultra last year.
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-15 Thread CHELA Robles
I have one and I really like it and if this one ever dies on me, I would buy another one but I’d have to save up for that first so the long answer is save up first then buy it unless there are installment plans which I don’t think there are I had to save up for my Apple Watch Ultra locally I still have AppleCare for it and I pay $4.99 a month for AppleCare. Bought it for my birthday this year.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly
 in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received
 an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy
 with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if you may have had a regular
 Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last year.
 
 
Take care,
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Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

2023-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch 
series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery 
life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such 
a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't 
so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles 
away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here 
mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an 
Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a 
question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me 
put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where 
if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had 
my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy 
with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not 
by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but 
still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if 
you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last 
year.


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Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch

2023-09-01 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

If I’m sleeping with my watch on, I turn the volume way down. That way, if I 
accidentally trigger voiceOver, it doesn’t make noise.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 31, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
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> I'd also suggest using taptic time as well. I'd recommend practicing with it 
> before just trying to use it in the middle of the night. As Nicola says it 
> takes a certain knack to get it to work reliably.
> 
> BTW, for some reason, on my Apple Watch, I have to do a triple tap to get the 
> time and a quadruple tap to get just the minutes.
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nicola 
> Sanders
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 3:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
> 
> Hi,
> The taptic time is working pretty reliably for me on my Apple Watch Series 7, 
> thank goodness. I find that it helps to do the double tap gesture slightly 
> more slowly than normal, i.e. leaving a slightly longer gap between the first 
> and second tap, but not long enough for it to be interpreted as a single tap 
> and set VoiceOver off. When I sleep with my partner at night, I turn speech 
> off using the three-finger double tap, and the taptic time almost always 
> works for me. I do the same at work.
> HTH,
> Nicky
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Aug 2023, at 17:53, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, just realized you said in the subject line it's an Apple Watch so 
>> obviously plugging in a headset isn't an option.
>> Once again, setting the volume low enough is what I do, but my wife also 
>> sleeps through almost anything so not too hard to do.
>> I wish the haptic time feedback was reliable, but especially lately on my 
>> Apple Watch 5 I rarely even get it to work.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
>> 
>> If I use the sleep focus, what is the best way to check the time if I wake 
>> up in the middle of the night?  I don't want voiceOver waking my wife.
>> 
>>> On 8/31/23, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Hi. I use my watch when I sleep every night. I created a sleep focus
>>> mode that comes automatically each evening at 9:15. I get a 15 minute
>>> wind-down before it goes in to sleep mode. The watch doesn't talk
>>> through the night and I have a nice alarm wake me up at 5. You can
>>> set one for the weekend if you like if your routine differs.
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 1:28 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
>>> 
>>> Hi Anna and Malcolm,
>>> 
>>> I had the same question. I want to use my apple watch to track my
>>> sleep but I don't want the watch talking throughout the night if I move.
>>> 
>>> With these settings turned off, do I have to tap the watch to get it
>>> to talk?
>>> 
>>>> On 8/21/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>> 
>>>> Turn off Speak on Wrist Raise either in VoiceOver Settings on the
>>>> watch or in the Watch app on your phone. Then VoiceOver will only
>>>> speak when you wake the watch.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:26 AM, Terri Stimmel
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just have a quick question, or two, regarding my Apple watch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a way to set it, or a way to enable it, so that the watch
>>>>> won't speak, if the face is touched?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, just if I move my arm in a certain way?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This always seems to be happening to me. Which in most cases is fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I will be attending college soon, and I do not want my
>>>>> watch going of

RE: Questions regarding my Apple watch

2023-08-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'd also suggest using taptic time as well. I'd recommend practicing with it 
before just trying to use it in the middle of the night. As Nicola says it 
takes a certain knack to get it to work reliably.

BTW, for some reason, on my Apple Watch, I have to do a triple tap to get the 
time and a quadruple tap to get just the minutes.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nicola 
Sanders
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch

Hi,
The taptic time is working pretty reliably for me on my Apple Watch Series 7, 
thank goodness. I find that it helps to do the double tap gesture slightly more 
slowly than normal, i.e. leaving a slightly longer gap between the first and 
second tap, but not long enough for it to be interpreted as a single tap and 
set VoiceOver off. When I sleep with my partner at night, I turn speech off 
using the three-finger double tap, and the taptic time almost always works for 
me. I do the same at work.
HTH,
Nicky

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Aug 2023, at 17:53, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Sorry, just realized you said in the subject line it's an Apple Watch so 
> obviously plugging in a headset isn't an option.
> Once again, setting the volume low enough is what I do, but my wife also 
> sleeps through almost anything so not too hard to do.
> I wish the haptic time feedback was reliable, but especially lately on my 
> Apple Watch 5 I rarely even get it to work.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Donald Raikes
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
>
> If I use the sleep focus, what is the best way to check the time if I wake up 
> in the middle of the night?  I don't want voiceOver waking my wife.
>
>> On 8/31/23, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi. I use my watch when I sleep every night. I created a sleep focus
>> mode that comes automatically each evening at 9:15. I get a 15 minute
>> wind-down before it goes in to sleep mode. The watch doesn't talk
>> through the night and I have a nice alarm wake me up at 5. You can
>> set one for the weekend if you like if your routine differs.
>>
>> Chris Judge
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 1:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
>>
>> Hi Anna and Malcolm,
>>
>> I had the same question. I want to use my apple watch to track my
>> sleep but I don't want the watch talking throughout the night if I move.
>>
>> With these settings turned off, do I have to tap the watch to get it
>> to talk?
>>
>>> On 8/21/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> Hi Terri,
>>>
>>> Turn off Speak on Wrist Raise either in VoiceOver Settings on the
>>> watch or in the Watch app on your phone. Then VoiceOver will only
>>> speak when you wake the watch.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:26 AM, Terri Stimmel
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just have a quick question, or two, regarding my Apple watch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to set it, or a way to enable it, so that the watch
>>>> won't speak, if the face is touched?
>>>>
>>>> Or, just if I move my arm in a certain way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This always seems to be happening to me. Which in most cases is fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, I will be attending college soon, and I do not want my
>>>> watch going off all the time. The yammering would not be
>>>> appreciated by others, that is for sure. LOL!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terri
>>>>
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