RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Mark Iverson
Jed, As a matter of fact, I do know a bit about history. You can eventually counter most anyone's point by going back in history far enough... You went back 60 years to the time of kamikaze pilots and the Empire of Japan. That's older than I, but not by much! I was speaking more in modern tim

[Vo]:Michael Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

2008-11-02 Thread Steven Krivit
I confirm (as someone has already stated) that the person posting as: Michael Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is not Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One needs not even compare the names or the e-mail addresses. The written "signature" of Michel Jullian is significantly distinct from Michael Juli

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
OK Mark, I apologize for using the phase "as usual". Most of your posts are logical. However, in this case you not only made a statement that I know to be untrue about religions, but also insulted my patriotism. You have no understanding of my political views except I, like an increasing n

Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
The same argument applies to Christains with respect to certain passages in their bible. Harry - Original Message - From: Jeff Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:20 pm Subject: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan > If good Muslims kill all no

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread thomas malloy
R C Macaulay wrote: I noticed that Colin didn't dwell on the oldest running war in history that started way back in Canaan's day, next to 1800 BC with Ismael.. then to Edom.. to Herod ( Esau's kinfolk) and a slight jump to Muhammed in AD600. Or as t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWqX_O4B

RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Jeff Fink
If good Muslims kill all non-muslims why have Jews been living in their cities for over a millennium? Because most Muslims are not living their religion by the book! Only what we refer to as the extremists behave that way. Most Muslims show much more kindness than that. Jeff -Original Mess

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Yes Ed, These types harangues are better suited for the drunk room at the Dime Box Saloon where one can reveal his innermost degradation of intellect without fear of discovery. Richard Sorry Richard, it is sometimes hard to know who said what. So, I ask this question of whomever wrote the d

Re: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Harry Veeder
If good Muslims kill all non-muslims why have Jews been living in their cities for over a millennium? Harry - Original Message - From: Jeff Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008 9:33 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan > Good Christians, liv

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Mark Iverson
Ed wrote: "As usual, your emotions get the better of logic" Tell me how logic supports your conclusion of "As usual" when referring to my post? To me, I'd have to have read at least 4 to 6 postings on a topic in order to feel like I would be justified in using that phrase. Obviously, you think

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Jeff Fink
Good Christians, living their faith by the book, love their enemies. Good Muslims, living their faith by the book, kill their enemies which include all non Muslims. Don't take my word for it. Look it up. The people on this list are technically brilliant, but in some other important areas, the i

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It took Pearl Harbor to get us into the war even though it was obvious that > our ships were being sunk in the Atlantic and Europe was being ravaged. Well, the U.S. began serious preparations before that, in 1939 and 1940, including the first peacetime d

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From Michael Julian, > These guys are ... [snip] Alas, I say this knowing full well that I speak hypocrisy since we U.S. citizens haven't been very good at NOT meddling in the affairs of other countries. Note: This message is N

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Sorry Richard, it is sometimes hard to know who said what. So, I ask this question of whomever wrote the disgusting comments below. Ed On Nov 2, 2008, at 6:06 PM, R C Macaulay wrote: Examine your premise Ed. I did not post this retort.. Michael Julian is shown as the author. Neither did I

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread OrionWorks
>From Michael Julian, > These guys are ... [snip] Woah! As Bones once said to Kirk in a Star Trak movie: "Don't mince words. Tell us how you REALLY feel!" While one can appreciate the passion behind your words it would probably be best if you let us flawed and mortal U.S. citizens sort this one

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Examine your premise Ed. I did not post this retort.. Michael Julian is shown as the author. Neither did I mention Christians in my prior post, you did. Richard - Original Message - From: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, Nove

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
What is wrong with you, Macaulay? Where did you get the impression that such expressions and attitude get you anything but rejection and disgust? On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Michael Julian wrote: These guys are racist muthafukkas. People like them cause all the world's problems, when's t

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread OrionWorks
>From Mark Iverson, > Gee Ed, I don't know any christians, buddists, scientologists or > any other belief systems that want to wipe out other belief systems; > that would strap bombs on their children and handicapped, let > alone 'sane' adults, all in the name of their religion/god. > > With all

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gee Ed, I don't know any christians, buddists, scientologists or any other > belief systems that want > to wipe out other belief systems; that would strap bombs on their children > and handicapped, let > alone 'sane' adults, all in the name of their rel

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
As usual, your emotions get the better of logic. First of all, not all Muslims are suicide bombers nor is this an action that is supported by the general region. Also, how do you separate this action from when we operate when we bomb from the air? Of course, you can say that we are trying

[Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-02 Thread Michael Julian
These guys are racist muthafukkas. People like them cause all the world's problems, when's their generation going to die out? Good ole boy dumbshit kick them off the list! I'm sick of hardworking Americans paying welfare or bailing out their hicks and folks. What's wrong, want the good ole days bac

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Mark Iverson
Gee Ed, I don't know any christians, buddists, scientologists or any other belief systems that want to wipe out other belief systems; that would strap bombs on their children and handicapped, let alone 'sane' adults, all in the name of their religion/god. With all the acrimonious feelings you

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread OrionWorks
>From Richard > I noticed that Colin didn't dwell on the oldest running war in > history that started way back in Canaan's day, next to 1800 BC with Ismael.. > then to Edom.. to Herod ( Esau's kinfolk) and a slight jump to Muhammed > in AD600. Or as the song goes.. "the beat goes on" with Sonny a

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
It took Pearl Harbor to get us into the war even though it was obvious that our ships were being sunk in the Atlantic and Europe was being ravaged. I predict it will take enough ocean rise to destroy a major city in the US to create a response equal to WW-II. By then, it will be too late

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: Of course, CF could help. However, at least 10 years will be required to master CF and introduce it at high level into the energy system. The present system contains enormous financial and infrastructure inertia that prevents adding energy from any source very fast. I'm

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
How do you tell the good Christians from the bad Christians, Richard? Surely you know that bad Christians exist. I suggest you use the same method you would apply to Christians. Ed On Nov 2, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: R C Macaulay wrote: These people have their religious mand

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
R C Macaulay wrote: These people have their religious mandate to kill us. You try separating the good muslims from the bad ones because I can't see the difference. Not a problem! Not long ago, by historical standards, most Japanese people had it in for us, and were determined to kill America

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I don't think there is any possibility of stopping global warming, but this does not mean we should stop trying. I think that with cold fusion, we could easily stop global warming. See chapter 9 of my book, in which I

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: I don't think there is any possibility of stopping global warming, but this does not mean we should stop trying. I think that with cold fusion, we could easily stop global warming. See chapter 9 of my book, in which I take Ed to taks for saying what he said here. It woul

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:23 PM, OrionWorks wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWqX_O4BKY It moved me to tears. Me too. It was such a relief to hear someone at national level give an honest and rational evaluation of the present situation. After hearing unending bullshit for the last s

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
I don't think there is any possibility of stopping global warming, but this does not mean we should stop trying. First of all, the warming is caused by several processes, only one of which we can control, i.e. CO2 emission. Second, the big generators of CO2, such as the US and China will

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
I noticed that Colin didn't dwell on the oldest running war in history that started way back in Canaan's day, next to 1800 BC with Ismael.. then to Edom.. to Herod ( Esau's kinfolk) and a slight jump to Muhammed in AD600. Or as the song goes.. "the beat goes on" with Sonny and Cher. Colin can s

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Wind is not available in many parts of the country, such as Georgia. Ah ha. According to today's Atlanta Journal there are ~10 GW of potential offshore wind in Georgia. See: http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008/11/02/equaled_1102.html I wasn't aware of that. My in

[Vo]:Gort: Klaatu barada nikto!

2008-11-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Yes. "Day the Earth Stood Still" is being remade, with Keanu Reeves as Klaatu, for release this December. I don't see the point, but that's the news. Speaking of the robot Gort, here is a hilarious 49 second ad from the Obama campaign featuring Gort, "Robots attack!" http://www.youtube.com/w

Re: [Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Thomas, Sounds great but they do not address the "greed" factor that has governed the energy industry. Now we are seeing more electric power companies merge in the USA. These huge firms are positioning for a battle with environmentalists. Richard This is a continuation of the previou

[Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-02 Thread OrionWorks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWqX_O4BKY It moved me to tears. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:We can solve it

2008-11-02 Thread thomas malloy
This is a continuation of the previous threat discussing contacting public officials. I'm particularly interested in what Jed and Ed think about this website. http://www.wecansolveit.org/ --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread Edmund Storms
It is hard to tell what might happen based on local conditions. However, a person who has huge crowds at his rallies and collects a huge amount of money must have massive support. In addition. Obama is using his organizing skills to make sure his people vote. I suggest the basis on which pe

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread R C Macaulay
It is not a black and white issue. it's cultural issue with subsets coupled with a stupid war and freakish props to skew an obsolete economic model. Add to that "stew" a nation's youth searching for the "Camelot" they were promised after "sliding thru college". Once heard an ole timer in Key

[Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-02 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Ed wrote: Yes, I voted a week ago and I'm getting sick of hearing about an election that is in the bag. Hi All,11-2-08 It's not in the bag here in Ohio. Several life-long Democrats have given me various esoteric reasons why they can't vote for Obama. When I remark "On top of that, he'