[Vo]:Definitive Divorce- Defkalion is no more Rossi's partner

2011-08-12 Thread Peter Gluck
Despite rumors and info from the Greek press. the divorce is a definitive, and perhaps implicitly irrreversible Rossi dixit: Andrea Rossi August 12th, 2011 at 2:54 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=12#comment-61201 Dear Sterling Allan: It is totally false that EFA srl has

Re: [Vo]:DGT citation: unsuccesful test of end of july 2011

2011-08-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
This is a fake message from a Swedish forum. They are laughing at you! :D http://www.energikatalysatorn.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=217start=110

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...

2011-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Some would like to characterize Krivit as a snake. Rossi, particularly. In my view Krivit is simply a cynic. Being a cynic is neither good or bad. It's what one does with one's innate sense of cynicism that determines whether honoring such a perception of their surroundings serves them (and

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...

2011-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Being a cynic is neither good or bad. It's what one does with one's innate sense of cynicism that determines whether honoring such a perception of their surroundings serves them (and their

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...

2011-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: The truly progressive cynic eventually forms a crusty chrysalis from which eventually emerges a jaded dung beetle. IMHO, a truly progressive cynic has a sense of humor. Some cynics make marvelous comedians. About a year ago I recall Mr. Krivit demanding that Mr. Rothwell publicly

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...

2011-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I sed: I perceive Mr. Krivit as working very hard at the task of being the best investigative journalist that he can be. I think he may still achieve that goal. I just realized that the way I stated the above could imply that I don't perceive Mr. Krivit as possessing very good journalistic

Re: [Vo]:Speaking of finely divided nickel

2011-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
I find Jones’ post on finely divided nickel exceedingly interesting, informative, and valuable. For what it is worth, the content and logic of this post fits in well with my thinking on the Rossi question. To further the discussion, I believe that the nano-structures that actively mediate the

[Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
From PESN.COM Questions: Did Andrea Rossi ever provide your company the industrial secret, which would include the information about how to produce an operating kernel or reactor core? Can you confirm that your company has assembled, built, and tested the kernels (even if they are the exact same

[Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper

2011-08-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi August 12th, 2011 at 10:58 AM TO ALL OUR READERS: TODAY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ON THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS THE VERY INTERESTING PAPER “COLD NUCLEAR FUSION” OF E.N. TSYGANOV, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SOUTHWESTERN, TEXAS, USA. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...

2011-08-12 Thread Rich Murray
Noteworthy that Krivit's 200 page report included detailed contributions by 25 volunteer experts, who showed a broad consensus for a skeptical assessment about excess energy... So it's not just Krivit... Not included -- thermal electrochemical corrosion of the electric input power heating

Re: [Vo]:The Galantini report examined in detail

2011-08-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:39 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: The maximum error in the actual measurement, then, will be +/- 0.1 degree, plus a little, so that it *might* be off by another digit under some circumstances. I.e, suppose the

Re: [Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper

2011-08-12 Thread Rich Murray
This seems to me, an unqualified, careful scientific layman, to be reasonable, simple theory, citing recent experiments: Recent experiments on fusion of elements on accelerators For atom-atom collisions the expression of the probability of penetration through a Coulomb barrier for bare nuclei

Re: [Vo]:The Galantini report examined in detail

2011-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Good point. On a meter with a fixed display, you cannot calibrate any finer than the last digit displayed, minus a tad. McKubre can calibrate RTDs (I think they are) to a fraction of a degree because he is looking at a computer screen with as many digits as you

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: After AR said he did not give them the sauce, it looks like: 1) DGT has no working Hyperions. 2) DGT has working Hyperions and stole the sauce. 3) DGT has their own receipe. You are saying these are the only three likely scenarios, right? They seem to cover all

RE: [Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper

2011-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
Abstract of Tsyganov paper. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510 Recent accelerator experiments on fusion of various elements have clearly demonstrated that the effective cross-sections of these reactions depend on what material the target particle is placed in. In these experiments,

RE: [Vo]:Speaking of finely divided nickel

2011-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
From: Axil Axil * There have been reports that Rossi uses big micro grain sized particles as a lattice support structure to buttress small nano-dimensioned tubule structures of nickel. This more complex topology would cut down some on the maximum surface area that would be provided by a

Re: [Vo]:The Galantini report examined in detail

2011-08-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:46 PM 8/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: No, they wouldn't. You can use the resolution to make temperature comparisons. Jed, maybe I misread the specifications. I did not, however, make this up. And I do know for a

Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics

2011-08-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:30 AM 8/11/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Therefore if someone knows some high impact factor journals that has published recent could fusion findings, I would appreciate to have some examples. See http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Cold_fusion/Recent_sources This is a list of journal and

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
Even if DGT can build a Rossi knockoff, their own testing has shown the knockoff to be potentially dangerous and hard to control. If such a product was sold to the public in general, DGT would be legally exposed if the knockoff cause harm to life or property. It is in the business interest of

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Even if DGT can build a Rossi knockoff, their own testing has shown the knockoff to be potentially dangerous and hard to control. I do not know where you got that information. The Defkalion reactors appear to be better controlled and safer than Rossi's own prototypes.

Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics

2011-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 3:12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics At 06:30 AM 8/11/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Therefore if someone knows some high impact

RE: [Vo]:The Galantini report examined in detail

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd wrote: But pressure is also important, because, of course, boiling point depends on pressure. I see no sign that the actual pressure inside the E-cat was measured directly. I just read a quote yesterday from Galantini, not sure where, but I think is may have been on Passerini's site,

Re: [Vo]:How to present arguments against cold fusion critics

2011-08-12 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Thanks great many Abd ul-Rahman and also Jed. I presented devastating counter-argument to Finnish pseudoskeptics. That Naturwissenschaften article: Status of Cold-Fusion (Storms 2010) http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEstatusofcoa.pdf was something that might be worthy of reading while I find

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Some personal speculations of my own: FWIW, the one little itch that I can't ignore is why does DGT continue to behave in what strikes me as being distinctly conciliatory in their characterization of Rossi's recent actions. DGT claims they have developed more control and a greater safety margin

Re: [Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper

2011-08-12 Thread Rich Murray
Cold Nuclear Fusion, recent experiments and theory re electron shielding in metals: EN Tsyganov, (UA9 collaboration) University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, Texas: Rich Murray 2011.08.12 [Vo]:JNP Cold Nuclear Fusion paper fromAlan J Fletcher a...@well.com reply-to

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the one little itch that I can't ignore is why does DGT continue to behave in what strikes me as being distinctly conciliatory in their characterization of Rossi's recent actions. DGT claims they have developed more control

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
Controversy is bad for both sides, right? This might disturb any other partner that Rossi is or might contract. I just hope this whole affair ends with Rossi just retreating from any business for a long time. In any case, I would be happy if Defkalion just kicked the bucket and went ahead with

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
On August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM Rossi said in part on his blog as follows: “ “I have already perfectly in schedule my 1 MW plant, while the production in big series of the E-Cats was not my duty ( by the way, I always said them that this policy was completely wrong, for the first 2 years, but they

Re: [Vo]:DGT Continues Playing Dodge Ball

2011-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: As a commercial reactor designer, Rossi may not be capable or willing to handle the riggers of quality and revision control for a major product release. Well, there are a lot of engineers willing to help him gratis if he

RE: [Vo]:The Galantini report examined in detail

2011-08-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:40 PM 8/12/2011, Mark Iverson wrote: Abd wrote: But pressure is also important, because, of course, boiling point depends on pressure. I see no sign that the actual pressure inside the E-cat was measured directly. I just read a quote yesterday from Galantini, not sure where, but I