bloomberg video report about rossi
http://www.buildecat.com/view/74/Bloombergs-EnergyNow-Names-ECat-as-Weeks-HotZone.html
I didn't try it so far, but I will do for sure.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Will soon be able to share our
data as well. I also note mention of better results with electropolished Ni.
Any
Nice list you put together Peter. We will try to get all the papers and
have them translated. It should not take too long for a patent attorney
to obtain those papers or do have a source of them translated? If so
care to share? You see, I don't like re-inventing the wheel and those
papers
Be aware that it is a Piantelli cell and that many blokes worldwide
are trying replications- and this actions would lead to many variants of
practical energy sources. I wish you sucess!
Peter
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for the link and
Yes, thanks to you Peter, I do now understand the Ni-H cell design is
Piantelli. Before I start changing anything, I will attempt to replicate
his design as described in the Focardi and Piantelli paper in 1998 and
in the Piantelli patent. I'm an old and cautious engineer, who has
learned not
Dr. Focardi talking in Italian on TED.
http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxBologna-Sergio-Focardi-LE-c There is
a nice shot of a early prototype E-Cat reactor sitting in a red plastic
bucket, during his presentation plus a few more, which gives me a lot of
hope to replicate a Piantelli LENR
A nice idea could also be: Use a nickel tube and apply heat as well as hydrogen
/inside/ of the tube.
If there are any gamma rays or particles that trigger other reactions, the
efficiency should be better.
Also parasitic heat losses are minimized, because the hottest surface is inside.
Also
*
11/08/11 - Cold Fusion – Boondoggle and Bonanza?
At his public demonstration in October, Mr. Rossi built a larger version of
the E-cat, by combining many smaller cold fusion modules. At this
demonstration, an initial energy input of 400 watts was put into each
module. Each module, then produced
I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside
for all the reasons you listed. This could result in a very simple to
make cell as thermal heat, H2 and vacuum only needs to be applied to the
inside of the tube. Using a stainless tube with Ni electroplated and
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
The issue of complete vaporization has plagued the E-Cat from the
beginning. In the early E-Cats, water was able to run straight out
of the E-Cat and down a drain, without ever being collected or
sparged.
The important thing with the e-Cat is that there don't seem to be any good faith
classical models left around to explain the effect.
In other words, all the various demonstrations disprove the notion that this is
just misunderstood classical physics.
It is either an elaborate hoax, or this is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.11.2011 13:21
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication
I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside
for all the reasons you listed.
The problem is that it is easy to come up with fraudulent methods that
could have delivered the observed demo results. Add to which Rossi has had
no end of opportunities to remove all doubt, at no extra cost in effort or
materials, and without danger of loss of IP, but has chosen not to for
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Again, I don't know of anyone being allowed to see the insides of the
30x30x30 interior box.
1. Levi and the people at Defkalion say they saw inside. Lewan says you can
see more than the photograph shows. There is no sign of concrete.
2. In
I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/058288
Al. I'm starting to understand the nuclear process he is describing. Is
this for real? To me it seems logical and simple to understand but then
I'm not a physicists. Has this nuclear fusion like exchange of
Piantelli's been
By assuming that all of the water pumped in was evaporated. Unfortunately, it
was fed into the steam condensers and back into the E-Cat in a closed loop.
This us why the October 6th test was so important. It stood the chance to
produce viable calorimetry. Unfortunately, the placement of the
As I soon (4 to 8 weeks) will hopefully be doing my own calorimeter
measurements, Robert will you please assist my learning curve by
pointing how the 6 Oct E-Cat thermocouple input and output heat
exchanger measuring points were incorrect and how they should have been
done properly so I don't
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Robert Lynn
robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem is that it is easy to come up with fraudulent methods
that could have delivered the observed demo results.
This is true and that's one of the points.
Add to which Rossi has had no end of
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.11.2011 15:17
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication
I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/058288
Al. I'm starting to understand the
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:17 AM, kulintsov kulint...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't try it so far, but I will do for sure.
I see the catalyst has many uses. If you find you are unsuccessful at
replicating the Rossi Reaction, you can likely make a large profit
using this process:
From Robert Lynn
The problem is that it is easy to come up with fraudulent methods
that could have delivered the observed demo results. Add to
which Rossi has had no end of opportunities to remove all doubt,
at no extra cost in effort or materials, and without danger of
loss of IP, but has
I doubt this process is profitable. I'm pretty sure that any aspect of
that business is unbearable for 99%, and only government agents can deal
with it.
On 11/08/2011 06:39 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:17 AM, kulintsovkulint...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't try it so far,
These is a very descriptive write of of the Piantelli process in the
patent application I referenced. Link here:
http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010058288recNum=1docAn=IB2009007549queryString=ALLNAMES:%28piantelli%29maxRec=1
Is this the latest?
AG
On 11/9/2011
Suggesting that it is due to his inability to get a patent points again to
why he should have done a proper black box demo in January - then he could
have quickly signed up a large expert technology development partner that
could have quickly resolved all of his IP ownership problems. The system
I spoke with George Miley of the University of Illinois about his most
recent tests with palladium zirconium alloys with gas loading. Here are
some notes from the conversation and some related information about some of
Mizuno's experiments.
A set of PowerPoint slides here shows his results up
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Suggesting that it is due to his inability to get a patent points again to
why he should have done a proper black box demo in January - then he could
have quickly signed up a large expert technology development partner that
could have quickly
My sympathys. Also thanks for your Miley report, heartening to see the
reverse engineering is progressing so fast. I'm sure others won't be far
behind, and once Chinese govt et al awakens there'll be several hundred
thousand (ex-petroleum?) engineers and scientists working on understanding,
I wrote earlier that Rossi is in a bind because he has no viable patent.
Then just now I wrote that I have urged him to do a proper test, get
funding, and then hire experts, the way, Robert Lynn recommends.
The problem is, Rossi does not trust outsiders. He cannot even bring
himself to give a
Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
Designing and setting up an iron-clad demonstration for public consumption
is a major task, and is never good enough if there is disinformation by the
mainstream media.
Designing and setting up a demonstration would take a week or two. However,
Rossi
I wrote:
It would not be appropriate for Rossi to assist or kibbutz
I meant kibitz. Voice input does not handle Yiddish well.
This means, To look on and offer unwanted, usually meddlesome advice to
others.
I expect that people in a Kibbutz often kibitz.
- Jed
On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote earlier that Rossi is in a bind because he has no viable
patent. Then just now I wrote that I have urged him to do a proper
test, get funding, and then hire experts, the way, Robert Lynn
recommends.
The problem is, Rossi does not
Am 08.11.2011 15:56, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
These is a very descriptive write of of the Piantelli process in the
patent application I referenced. Link here:
* *
*Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged.*
* *
* *
*The Piantelli theory is based on a quasiparticle: a negative hydrogen ion
that acts as an electron in the nucleus of a nickel atom. *
* *
*In a nutshell according to the the Piantelli theory, the negative hydrogen
ion
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
11/08/11 - Cold Fusion – Boondoggle and Bonanza?
At his public demonstration in October, Mr. Rossi built a larger version of
the E-cat, by combining many smaller cold fusion modules. At this
demonstration, an initial energy
Jed, I have reason to believe that the output thermocouples are reading
incorrectly. Rossi has stated on several occasions that he has only one core
working within the ECAT used for the October 6 test. One core can only
generate approximately 3.4 kW of power since three are needed to
Am 08.11.2011 18:22, schrieb Axil Axil:
**
*Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged.*
**
**
*The Piantelli theory is based on a quasiparticle: a
_/negative/_hydrogen ion that acts as an electron in the nucleus of a
nickel atom. *
**
attachment: harris-01.jpg
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, I have reason to believe that the output thermocouples are reading
incorrectly.
Then I suggest you address the paper uploaded by Houkes, and show where it
is in error.
- Jed
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Rossi's behavior is absurd, unless he doesn't believe in the technology
himself. Then it makes complete sense.
His behavior is irrational and absurd. However, such behavior is common
among inventors and discoverers, and it has been throughout
On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Again, I don't know of anyone being allowed to see the insides of
the 30x30x30 interior box.
1. Levi and the people at Defkalion say they saw inside.
Levi and Defkalion people saw inside the 6
It is apparent that the model is not accurate. For one issue, the thermal
insulation surrounding the entire heat exchanger is not modeled. Also, if the
results do not match the real world, then which should we believe? It is the
burden of the modeler to demonstrate that his model represents
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, I have reason to believe that the output thermocouples are
reading incorrectly.
Then I suggest you address the paper uploaded by Houkes, and show
where it is in error.
- Jed
Why is this
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Rossi's behavior is absurd, unless he doesn't believe in the
technology himself. Then it makes complete sense.
His behavior is irrational and absurd. However, such behavior is
common among
I wrote: This is a different statement from the one I made. I
implied Rossi's behavior makes complete sense if he does not believe
in the technology himself. I did not say it makes complete sense
that Rossi does not believe in the technology. There is a
difference. The question though
lame LENR H-Ni run report by Sergio Focardi and Francesco Piantelli, 9
pages, Il Nuovo Cimento, November 1998 -- recent news: Rich Murray
2011.08.20
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/08/lame-lenr-h-ni-run-report-by-sergio.html
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The question though should be which premise is more consistent with
Rossi's behavior, he believes his own claims, or not?
The premise that best fits his behavior is the same one that fits Harrison,
Patterson, William Shockley, and many other
I wonder if the vortex would consider the following scenario:
It has been reported that the ECATs were completely filled with water before
the power was applied to the control systems and associated heating elements so
I would expect the following to take place.
1). Water starts to
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Then I suggest you address the paper uploaded by Houkes, and show where it
is in error.
Why is this material not in pdf format like other material on
LENR-CANR.org?
Because:
1. I have not got around to it.
2. I figure the authors may want to
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Levi and Defkalion people saw inside the 6 Oct E-cat?
So they say.
If they saw inside some other device at some other time then that is
irrelevant.
That one, as far as I know. It was tested before. It shows signs of having
been run many
It helps to put the discovery and development of new technologies into the
proper perspective. Thank you for posting the link below as I found it quite
informative. Complex systems always progress in starts and stops as the
underlying problems are resolved with hard work and a great deal of
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The question though should be which premise is more consistent with
Rossi's behavior, he believes his own claims, or not?
The premise that best fits his behavior is the same one that fits
On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Levi and Defkalion people saw inside the 6 Oct E-cat?
So they say.
Just to be clear, they say they saw inside the 30x30x30 cm inside box
in the 6 Oct E-cat demo? Do you have a reference on
The SSE has another issue online of their EdgeScience magazine:
http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/
http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/edgescience_09.pdf
- Anecdotal Evidence
- Letters: Tunguska and UFOs
- The plasma universe of Hannes Alfven
-
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Just to be clear, they say they saw inside the 30x30x30 cm inside box in
the 6 Oct E-cat demo? Do you have a reference on this?
No, just what they say. Take it or leave it. If you don't believe me, or
them, believe Archimedes.
- Jed
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:15:15 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
So, he just wrote AR a check and hooked the container up to his F250
and drove away? So, there wasn't a single investigative reporter who
hopped on their Vespa and followed him? Are we to believe that it now
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
It is difficult to believe that Harrison, Patterson, or Shockley would put
on about a dozen demonstrations of their technology, repeatedly botch the
scientific aspects of the demonstrations, and refuse to acknowledge or fix
the problems.
How hard?
http://pesn.com/2011/11/08/9601951_Steorn_Announces_HephaHeat_Oveurnity_Technology/
Excerpt:
Steorn, the Dublin, Ireland based free energy company, has announced
their latest overunity technology that they have named HephaHeat.
The technology produces excess energy in the form of heat, by
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-11/06/cold-fusion-heating-up?page=all
Follow-up on their earlier two articles. (They say Rossi has 13
orders? Challenged).
Hank Mills v Crude,Maryugo,Krivit in the comments
(lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- Hi, google!)
On 2011-11-08 23:10, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Hank Mills v Crude,Maryugo,Krivit in the comments
Krivit also posted a comment in today's Physorg.com article on Rossi here:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-rossi-e-cat-customers.html
Cheers,
S.A.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Just to be clear, they say they saw inside the 30x30x30 cm inside box in the
6 Oct E-cat demo? Do you have a reference on this?
http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/Foto/articoli/ecat071011-3.jpg
Source:
Thank you Axil, that is my understanding as well and explained much
better than I could. I have been told that Piantelli has confirmed each
step is correct.
AG
On 11/9/2011 3:52 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
**
*Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged.*
**
**
*The Piantelli theory
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/Foto/articoli/ecat071011-3.jpg
Thanks, Terry.
The corrugated thing at the top which looks like a radiator is the cell.
It is a little hard to see from the photo, but I gather you can actually
see inside the box below
From Jeane Manning:
http://changingpower.net/articles/physicists-insights-on-greece-and-rossi%E2%80%99s-e-cat/#more-716
Her source says:
It is known that the type of asserted reaction, namely Ni -Cu
transition, must release gamma photons in the 511 Kev range but this
was never actually
Joshua Cude, MaryYugo, Steven B. Krivit, and Engineer offer very cogent
critical posts in the 3 pages of comments in three days.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/**archive/2011-11/06/cold-**
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The corrugated thing at the top which looks like a radiator is the cell.
Those heat fins reside on both the top and bottom. Three reactors are
sandwiched within. There were a lot of witnesses who described it.
Concrete
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The corrugated thing at the top which looks like a radiator is the cell.
Those heat fins reside on both the top and bottom.
Look at Bob Higgins'
Some more inside shots
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3295952.ece/BINARY/w468/kall_fusion_rossi_sprattad_lada_1_468_320.jpg
At 02:58 PM 11/8/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
Joshua Cude, MaryYugo, Steven B. Krivit, and Engineer offer very
cogent critical posts in the 3 pages of comments in three days.
Engineer doesn't seem to be.
Feudian slip ... Cude, not Crude. MaryYugo
That's the rest mass of the electron... So, any idea?
2011/11/8 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
From Jeane Manning:
http://changingpower.net/articles/physicists-insights-on-greece-and-rossi%E2%80%99s-e-cat/#more-716
Her source says:
It is known that the type of asserted reaction, namely
brief puzzled Rossi eCat summary in PhysOrg.com: Rich Murray 2011.11.08
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-rossi-e-cat-customers.html
Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Some more inside shots
http://www.nyteknik.se/**incoming/article3295952.ece/**
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Tue, 8 Nov 2011 22:19:28 -0200:
Hi,
[snip]
That's the rest mass of the electron... So, any idea?
This has already been extensively covered on Vortex since January. See the
archives (hint:positron).
2011/11/8 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
From Jeane
Yes it looks a mess but just created a lot more energy than was
inputted, so fair go. As for the fin design, I could do better 40 years
ago. I mean the water enters in the lower left corner at the bottom and
the steam exits at the upper right on the top. I assume the rate of
water flow through
Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Still it would not be hard to do a better job, he says inside a fire proof
suit having yet to build and then to get working a LENR device ;)
Speaking for fire-proof suits, here is a Japanese news article and photo of
a robo-suit, or mechanical
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HSKyHmjyrkAfeature=
Well I got some sleep and am catching up on this thread. I am very
disappointed. The confusion here is incredible. It also appears no
one has read my paper at all:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf
especially the sections T2 THERMOCOUPLE LOCATION and VOLUME
I wrote: It is a reactor housing that supposedly keeps the reactor
dry and protected, and to which 1 /4 inch and 1 inch water sealed
conduit pipes connect which carry water, main power, and the
frequency generator power from the outside to the stuff inside the
box.
That should read: It
I have spent some time on working out what is what in the Exposed E-Cat
photos.
What can be seen is boiler scale on the reactor heat radiation fins,
external conduits and assembly bolts which seems to indicate water and
steam occur in the outer box as the Higgins drawing suggests and not
On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
That's the rest mass of the electron... So, any idea?
2011/11/8 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
From Jeane Manning:
http://changingpower.net/articles/physicists-insights-on-greece-and-
rossi%E2%80%99s-e-cat/#more-716
Her source says:
It is
On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
I have spent some time on working out what is what in the Exposed E-
Cat photos.
What can be seen is boiler scale on the reactor heat radiation
fins, external conduits and assembly bolts which seems to indicate
water and steam occur in
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/09/poor-journalism-by-wired-u-
k-on-rossi-story/
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Mate I'm not a physicists or an antagonists. Just a very practical old
power systems engineer. You have come up with a exotic theory of scam
that requires you to prove it. If I say I doubt your theory, that is my
right and you have no right to say Nonsense cause you have absolutely
no proof of
Krivit produced no references for his statements. And you would believe
him why? Especially which his very public anti Rossi stance, which I
believe is not justified by anything Krivit had or has not published.
Just by 2 pence worth. Maybe time to pass the buttered popcorn?
I'm pro Rossi's
2011/11/9 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
Because it looks like something I would build if I was in a big hurry
(well I would have done a better job on the heat exchanger) and all the
Italian Ni-H research papers, especially that of Piantelli and a few
private discussions.
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