What does anyone make of this Paper?
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topcj/articles/V005/17TOPCJ.pdf
Maybe it was already discussed.
About 7 years ago here on Vortex - before the plasmon/polariton technology
was being spread around cyberspace as being particularly relevant to some
types of LENR (by NASA no less)- and long before the Rossi HotCat, we raised
a relevant issue called triple coherency.
Basically, the question was
FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efimov_state
Three Body coherence.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
About 7 years ago here on Vortex - before the plasmon/polariton technology
was being spread around cyberspace as being particularly relevant to some
i found a patent application that was published on December 2013 on Least
Action Nuclear Process, claiming an alternative explanation of what most of
us see as LENR.
The inventor, Daniel S. Szumski, presented this theory during ICCF17 I
believe.
Jed posted it here at Vortex a while ago.
Link to
Brilliant work Jones.
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 10:47 am
Subject: [Vo]:Triple Coherency
About 7 years ago here on Vortex - before the plasmon/polariton technology
was being spread around cyberspace
Thanks Frank . and BTW - for those not familiar with Frank's observations .
it should be mentioned, even though he did not, that this parameter space
seems to be consistent (or within a close range) with megahertz-meter .
no?
From: fznidar...@aol.com
Brilliant work Jones.
Does that nullify my aliens farting through a wormhole induced by coherent
EMF theory of cold fusion?
On Sunday, January 19, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Thanks Frank … and BTW – for those not familiar with Frank’s
observations … it should be mentioned, even though he did not,
David Roberson wrote:
Observation of your model reminds me of how electrons might be distributed
as a result of the presence of a strong high frequency resonance. If the
particle is tuned carefully then a sharp peak in response would seem
likely. If the drive frequency is not carefully
The author of the patent has the basics right, but I wouldn’t think he
could patent the process.
In Rossi type LENR, there is energy accumulation and storage going on. The
LENR process involves both energy storage and its concentration to
accumulate atomic levels of power.
The Ni/H reactor
Also, there may be some unknown force that arises out of the mix that
coordinates the
activity.
That may be Fano resonance. Infrared photons jump from dipole to dipole and
from soliton to soliton (NAE) to equalize the energy between all member of
the condensate. The isothermal profile of the
Yes, I have to agree on the very small chance of getting this patent
application granted.
A bit further in time this effect will be added to the set of physical
principles. Physical principles can't be patented.
Op zondag 19 januari 2014 heeft Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com het volgende
geschreven:
Some similarity to Hagelsteins theory.
No photons but a nuclear
state, phonons and a nuclear dump state.
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:41:28
-0500, ChemE Stewart wrote:
Does that nullify my aliens farting
through a wormhole induced by coherent EMF theory of cold fusion?
On
Sunday, January 19,
Dave, I suggest you [free] download Vol. 1 of Mills GUTCP and follow the
mathematical derivation of the orbitsphere contain therein. Be aware that the
notion of ‘zero thickness’ has been debated to death in past years. Be aware
also that Dr. Connet, a mathematician and department head
The author lives in Davis, California, which is not that far from me. Here
is the abstract:
This invention describes the Least Action Nuclear Process (LANP). What
makes this process different than that occurring in LENR or cold fusion
devises is the temperature at which the nuclear process
Yes, when the group velocity of the dissolved protons = 1 million meters per
second magic happens.
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 1:34 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Triple Coherency
Thanks Frank … and BTW– for
No have seen pictures of Alkena the beautiful alien on the internet. I would
like to meet her.
Does that nullify my aliens farting through a wormhole induced by coherent
EMF theory of cold fusion?
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From: torulf.greek torulf.gr...@bredband.net
To: vortex-l
Dave, I am happy that you are digging in the right places. Im no expert in
this area. I suggest you join the Society for Classical Physics, moderated
by Dr. John Farrell [a former mentor of Mills]. Mils monitors this forum and
frequently makes terse, cogent comments. Mills asserts that his
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-einstein-wrong.html
Why Einstein will never be wrong
A new theory does not replace a old theory, in improves it. Einstein
improved the old theory of gravity. But we still use the old theory because
it is valid in its own context.
Mills cannot replace the quantum
Mike,
I have no doubt that an electron that is spread into the two dimensional
orbitsphere would not radiate. I think that the exclusion of the radial charge
current components are not necessary for this to be true. I read many pages in
Mill's well written document and came across an
yes, there is a charge density that rotates on the surface, scroll down 1/2
way on this:
http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory-2/theory/atomic-theory/
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Mike,
I have no doubt that an electron that is spread into the two
OK Mike,
I desire a better understanding to what Mills has derived from classical
fields. Perhaps it is appropriate for me to join that group provided I meet
the qualifications.
Perhaps Dr. Mills can answer my questions in person which I would appreciate
greatly.
Dave
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:42 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Can a loss of mass attributed to the formation of hydrinos and their
subsequent escape from the system be shown? This would be strong evidence
as well.
I think the transition from hydrogen to hydrino would show up as
I have a good intro to the basics of Mills's theory (plus much more detail)
at
http://zhydrogen.com/
much of it is details on the hydrogen atom and hydrinos - I don't go into
details of SQM (Standard Quantum Mechanics) vs CQM (Classical Quantum
Mechanics) where Mills's theory is based on CQM.
Dave, Mills cites Newton, Maxwell and Einstein as reference for his
classical theory. QM had its origin in the ultraviolet catastrophe of 19th
century physics. Accelerated electrons must radiate, according to theory.
Orbiting electrons continuously accelerate; there for they should radiate. A
Eric,
I was suspecting that the hydrinos might be diffusing out of the system so that
a relatively large mass would appear missing. The small mass converted to
energy expected by a true fusion reaction is so tiny that it is extremely
difficult to measure. The chemical reaction nature of
I cannot yet understand why a 12,000 amp arc is required to build hydrinos
in the Solid Fuel-Catalyst-Induced-Hydrino-Transition (SF-CIHT) device.
These electrons are lower in energy then most when holes from a catalyst
remove energy from them. And when their energy gets really low then fusion
Erik, conservation f energy applies. Mills understanding of the Resonant
Transfer reaction has evolved over the years. I am sure it will support many
PhD dissertations. Clue: it *does not involve radiation*. Using antenna theory,
it is a *near field* interchange, not involving a photon. If you
Thanks Jeff,
I attempted to download some of the pdfs on BLP site and had no luck so far. I
will look at yours next and hope for better.
I prefer classical fields over quantum mechanics provided it covers the bases.
It would seem very strange to find out that the current theories are easy to
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:
Erik, conservation f energy applies.
Understood. I'm not saying that hydrinos would violate conservation of
mass/energy. I was making a point about what measurements would seem to
record -- that instruments might tell the
Hydrinos are still matter, and is a gas, just like hydrogen, you can feel
it with your hands if it is blowing out a tube. But light will pass
straight through a giant cloud of it without being absorbed or reflected
but it will be gravitationally bent:
I am guessing there is some sort transition state (of slightly higher
energy) that must be overcome before the hydrogen atom can fall below the
ground state into a hydrino state. If an input of energy was not required
hydrinos would form spontaneously.
Harry
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:40 PM,
Unusual, that sounds like an important postulate of the Mills theory. For
those who know it well, where can I find it written in the 2,000 some odd
pages that explains the theory; it takes energy to lose energy.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:13 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
I am
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Jeff Driscoll jef...@gmail.com wrote:
Hydrinos are still matter, and is a gas, just like hydrogen, you can feel
it with your hands if it is blowing out a tube. But light will pass
straight through a giant cloud of it without being absorbed or reflected
but
no, won't refract, just gravitationally bend
here is a better link for dark matter:
http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2013/06/26/does-dark-matter-really-exist/
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:21 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Jeff Driscoll
Mills is in good company when he cites Newton, Maxwell and Einstein. The
belief that an electron is located at a tiny point which then rotates around
the nucleus is the main problem. As you state, an accelerated charge should
always radiate and that most likely is true under most conditions.
Jeff,
Do you expect x-rays and gamma rays to pass through a cloud of hydrinos without
interacting? This might be a way to see them if they are in fact considered
dark matter. I recently read about a super powerful x-ray laser that could
strip all the electrons from atoms and I bet it would
Harry, I have been following the hydrino discussion and I believe that the
theory is that the spontaneous decay can not happen unless a vessel of the
correct energy level is nearby. This catalyst has to accept the energy by near
field coupling methods and not radiation of a photon which would
There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage in. They try to
turn any LENR discussion into Andrea Rossi and his past. LENR had 14,700
replications before Andrea Rossi ever showed up on the scene.
And BTW, Wikipedia recently removed all the supposed convictions of fraud
for Rossi,
The more I think about hydrinos, the more I suspect that they would not be dark
enough to hide from astronomers. Perhaps the clouds of hydrogen that we see
and from which stars form are just a large number of hydrinos being decomposed
back into hydrogen due to gamma radiation. One problem
Kevin, the skeptics have failed to prove that Rossi does not have a real
device. They always fall back on character assassination when they have
nothing left. I guess you might think that if someone once committed a felony,
then it is likely that they might repeat. This belief may be true in
Just to launch a discussion and reveal yet another academic example of
behavior,
I fall on that newslette by Steven Krivit
Federal Investigations Reveal Academic Backstabbing at Purdue University.
http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=efa1558ece17e946d64fd9a89id=cf8ef248b2e=fb001f8a52
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