Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 01:06:21PM -0500, Jack Cole wrote: > Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. > > http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ That being showing photos of a shipping container?

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On 5/3/2013 11:07 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > What I am saying is that neutrons and protons conform to the quark models (u,u,d) and (u,u,d) when they are probed at high energies. At lower energies they are different. What is your model for them at low energies? - Joe

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

Again, hardly an attack on the strongest of the arguments of the opposing proposition. Please, let's have some intellectual honesty for a change. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Rich Murray wrote: > Joshua Cude is right -- today, 24 years after 1989, is there any lab > anywhere that has a sin

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III < jbarr...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > On 5/3/2013 2:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> >> >> Are you guys positing that a proton is (u, u, d) and a neutron is (u, u, >> d, e+) but only until you probe it at high energies at which point it >> suddenl

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

Joshua Cude is right -- today, 24 years after 1989, is there any lab anywhere that has a single running cold fusion genre experiment that produces verifiable anomalies? With global exponential evolution in all fields concurrent with the Net... I like that Widom and Larsen vividly discuss a huge s

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > On 5/3/2013 1:00 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> The positron resides inside the neutron. There is no reason for the >> positron to leave the neutron as long it is has no association with >> other particles. >> > > The positron will be su

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

I don't know whether to thank you for providing emotional comfort for my working hypothesis that cold fusion's excess heat is a real effect, or whether to curse you for providing such a poor excuse for skepticism that it will lead guys like me to become lax in our genuine skepticism. Going off lik

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Direct link to high definition of the panorama photo: http://postimg.org/image/6v14pk649/full/ On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Michele Comitini wrote: > If exif is true the picture was shot by an iPhone4. Supposedly > Passerini's phone > > http://www.findexif.com/?l=1r9hJxo > > > > > 2013/5/4

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: But there are other ways to conserve momentum. I think Robin has drawn >> attention to the possibility of f/H combining with another nucleus and >> expelling the electron instead of a gamma or a fragment, and Ron Maimon >> proposes something

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

Hi, First let me say I really like your enthusiasm for debunking. It is rare to see that much energy. > Not totally wrong, just wrongly interpreted. > Then you should help the laymen and failed scientists here interpret the misinterpreted evidentiary record -- specifically, you should focus yo

Re: [Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

It does look like a spoof. You can imagine Spock saying this: Align the magnetic fields of one spheromak [positively charged Schatten > norm] with one field reversed configuration [negatively charged Frobenius > norm]. With magnetic equilibrium they could synaptically generate a > reversed field

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

Joshua Cude wrote: > That's cold fusion's problem: the quality of the evidence is abysmal -- > not better than the evidence for bigfoot, alien visits, dowsing, > homeopathy. . . > > Incorrect. The quality of evidence is excellent. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHcoldfusionb.pdf As E

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Joshua Cude swaid: Like I said, there are easy ways to induce fusion in metal hydrides. Axil says: This is true if you consider water a hydride. It has been experimentally demonstrates that EMF enhancement of upto 10^^15 is produced with the proper nanoplasmonic nanoantenna. The referenced ex

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Mea culpa. The activity of the bulk sample decreases by a factor of two as a result of exposure, but the deduced half-life, taking account of the laser duration and volume is pretty dramatic all right. But none of this is contrary to ordinary QM, and plausible mechanisms are proposed. Like I said

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

If exif is true the picture was shot by an iPhone4. Supposedly Passerini's phone http://www.findexif.com/?l=1r9hJxo 2013/5/4 Jed Rothwell > Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > >> Source: http://22passi.blogspot.it/**2013/05/fino-al-limite-di-** >> rottura.html

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Joshua Cude said: As for changing alpha decay with 10^18W/cm^2 lasers, I suppose it's a start. They get a factor of 2, which is not that far from the 20 or 30 orders of magnitude needed in cold fusion. Axil says: How many orders of magnitude is implied by a alpha half-life reduction from 69 year

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

Sorry that was your quote, I should have highlighted it as follows: Joe said: The positron will be subject to EM forces that the neutron is not. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III < jbarr...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > On 5/3/2013 2:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> The positron

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Source: http://22passi.blogspot.it/**2013/05/fino-al-limite-di-** > rottura.html > > It's a 6 months old photo (previously unreleased) of a "Hot-Cat" being > pushed to its operating limits. > It does look

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On 5/3/2013 2:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The positron will be subject to EM forces that the neutron is not. It all depends on the level that you are looking at. Yes, when looking at the neutron on from the outside, you statement is correct. But when looking at the neutron on the inside, the charge

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

I don't know where you get the idea that cold fusion skeptics are skeptical of all discoveries. The 2011 Nobel prize winners postulated the very new dark energy, and they signed their emails Pons and Fleischmann because they were initially uncertain of their results. "We didn't want dark energy to

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

> So, we now have a contest. Not a contest. It's a disagreement. I think CF is almost certainly not real. You seem certain that it is. > Either you and other skeptics are correct or I and other believers in CF are correct. You leave no middle ground. Nature will be the judge and the final judgi

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Nanoplasmonics is a new science that is only a decade old. Almost every day now, this science produces another unbelievable breakthrough. A few days ago, I read an article that showed how light can reach a infinite speed when refracted by a custom build optical material. Invisibility shields are

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

Yes Joshua, I know you do not believe CF is real. You have been consistent in this attitude for years as the evidence kept accumulating. So, we now have a contest. Either you and other skeptics are correct or I and other believers in CF are correct. You leave no middle ground. Nature will b

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

> Yes, tunneling is described using quantum mechanics. Nevertheless, it is applied because the concept of a barrier energy does not work. No, that's wrong. The concept of barrier energy certainly does work. And again, tunneling is not "applied", it is a phenomenon predicted and observed. Set up a

[Vo]:Tunguska Fragments Found

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/514511/first-tunguska-meteorite-fragments-discovered/

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

The positron will be subject to EM forces that the neutron is not. It all depends on the level that you are looking at. Yes, when looking at the neutron on from the outside, you statement is correct. But when looking at the neutron on the inside, the charged quarks fell the electrostatic and magne

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

On 2013-05-03 20:06, Jack Cole wrote: Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ This photo just posted by Daniele Passerini is way more interesting: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XuKgtxpqL9U/UYQSyPJP-OI/JYI/96m

RE: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

We can see on the panorama picture ( http://postimg.org/image/6v14pk649/), the hot cat still in the metallic shelf without electrical feedings. The boxes of the cold cat are different from the October, 2011. It looks like very amateur workshop behind th

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Oops! It seems I was incorrect. Apparently that might be the "hot cat" or the "warm cat." I get these mixed up. Someone informed me: "To be fair Rossi did say that the 'warm-cat' would be in the re-fitted container from the 2011 demo!" The point is, something is being shipped to someone for testi

[Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

The recent editorial in Infinite Energy by Hagelstein represents the incoherent ramblings of a bitter man who is beginning to realize he has wasted 25 years of his career, but is deathly afraid to admit it. He spends a lot of time talking about consensus and experiment and evidence and theory and d

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

It would help if you even tried to understand what other people say rather than using insults. Yes, tunneling is described using quantum mechanics. Nevertheless, it is applied because the concept of a barrier energy does not work. A mathematical model was required to account for the rate

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Let's hope it's not Dempsey Dumpster. :-)

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On 5/3/2013 1:00 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: The positron resides inside the neutron. There is no reason for the positron to leave the neutron as long it is has no association with other particles. The positron will be subject to EM forces that the neutron is not. The neutron will be subject to res

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Tunneling is not "applied" when an unexpected phenomenon occurs. Tunneling is a phenomenon completely described within quantum mechanics. The word is a metaphor because it represents a particle's ability to penetrate a narrow potential energy barrier higher than its own kinetic energy, but the phen

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Susanna Gipp wrote: I would better title this thread as "pictures of 1MW E-cat towing". > Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's > facility? > It is the same one, isn't it? This is the 1 MW reactor, not the "hot cat." That's smaller than 1 MW isn't it? This is bein

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On 5/3/2013 1:00 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: The positron resides inside the neutron. There is no reason for the positron to leave the neutron as long it is has no association with other particles. The positron will be subject to EM forces that the neutron is not. The neutron will be subject to re

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > On 5/3/2013 11:03 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> In recent years I began to feel that high energy physics experiments >> might be places where the properties of sub-atomic particles are *forged >> rather than discovered. With the positro

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

At 12:10 PM 5/3/2013, you wrote: I would better title this thread as "pictures of 1MW E-cat towing". Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's facility? I suppose you could compare the scratch marks etc etc. Myself, I would have taken greater care to strap down all

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

I would better title this thread as "pictures of 1MW E-cat towing". Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's facility? 2013/5/3 Jack Cole > Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. > > > http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Jack Cole wrote: Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. > > > http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ > Ha! Good for him. He often does what he says he will do. It may be there really are 11 professors working on an evaluation. Based on my experience w

Re: [Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

Two-electron Reduced Density Matrix is a mathematical approximation that allows Chemical Physics to calculate the collective behavior of large numbers of fermions and bosons at low temperatures. What this fellow is getting at is the possibility that many body collective action of fermions (electr

Re: [Vo]:Simple phenomenon

This video is significant on symbolic level. Hammer, sword and anvil. The hammer is the steel ball held in hand. The sword is the magnet. The anvil is the other balls. Harry On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Earlier discussion here? > > ** ** > > … guess I missed it.

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

On 5/3/2013 11:03 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: In recent years I began to feel that high energy physics experiments might be places where the properties of sub-atomic particles are *forged rather than discovered. With the positron-in-neutron I can now point to a specific experiment to illustrate th

[Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/

Re: [Vo]:Neutron, Proton and Positron

That is one possible interpretation. Another possible interpretation is that a proton under bombardment assumes properties which are consistent with the standard model of a proton, but in a cool environment the proton is more like a positron and a neutron. In recent years I began to feel that high

Re: [Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

This is obviously a spoof. Someone is just having fun and looking to get a serious reply. Ed On May 3, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM, James Bowery wrote: That's not a TED talk. It's a TED "conversation". Oh. Google Alerts casts its net every wi

Re: [Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM, James Bowery wrote: > That's not a TED talk. It's a TED "conversation". > Oh. Google Alerts casts its net every wider. Can you make head or tail of the content? By the way, I find I now need two separate alerts. One for: cold fusion -coldfusion -"web hostin

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

I already have here up this thread Sorry, the screening comes from polariton production by laser stimuli of nano-particles. Read about it here http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&; source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.phy-astr.gsu.edu%2Fstockman%2Fd

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On 5/3/2013 9:52 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Trying to use ideas based on a high energy process to describe a low energy reaction is where the conceptual problem starts. Indeed.

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Yes Joe, and the term is used for the same reason. Nuclear decay, which looks at the barrier from the inside instead of from the outside, also does not fit the theory. Consequently additional variables are added in the "tunneling" process. Normal decay and conventional nuclear interaction

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On 5/3/2013 8:56 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > We were discussing nuclear reactions. Tunneling is applied when a reaction that should not be possible based on a theory is found to actually occur at an unexpected rate. I kind of understand. The confusing thing is that tunneling is *already* used

Re: [Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

That's not a TED talk. It's a TED "conversation". The difference is between a video presentation to an event and someone who is registered with ted.com posting something to web bbs for discussion. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Google alerts brought me this. I do not kn

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

On 5/3/2013 9:03 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > but the sub-atomic quasiparticle formed from the combination of light and electrons called a poloriton that carries the electric negative charge Can you give me references for these "poloritons"? Quantum electrodynamics (QED) is the study of the interac

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

Joseph wrote: "Based on context, I'm going to assume that what you mean by "screening" is really "blasting nuclei with massively powered lasers". If that's not what you mean, then you still need to explain to me what you mean by screening." In the referenced I sited for you, the dissertation by C

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

Perhaps, Joe, I should be more exact. We are not discussing motion of electrons through a material. The concept of tunneling might be useful to describe this behavior. We were discussing nuclear reactions. Tunneling is applied when a reaction that should not be possible based on a theory is

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On 5/3/2013 8:31 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Eric, tunneling in my mind is not real. It is a conceptual ploy to fix a flawed understanding of how a process actually works. Consequently, I do not use this concept. Tunneling is very real. Semiconductor manufacturers have to worry about tunnelin

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On May 2, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Eric, before you make a conclusion you really need to understand what I'm proposing, rather than using your own imagination. First of all, the Hydroton is a neutral molecule consisting o

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

On 5/3/2013 12:00 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > So sorry, please excuse me, the answer I requested is still pending. You mean this question? "Science recognizes that screening can accelerated alpha decay. How does such screening affect the pions in their ability to keep these nucleons inside the ato

Re: [Vo]:[Vo) nano nickel powders

@D2: Have you ever encounted anomalous heat effects in your experiments? On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM, DJ Cravens wrote: > I tried from 3 nm up to 10 microns. > This was a few years (3) back. I could not make just simple Ni powders > and H2 gas work. > I have gravitated to passing current th

RE: [Vo]:[Vo) nano nickel powders

I tried from 3 nm up to 10 microns. This was a few years (3) back. I could not make just simple Ni powders and H2 gas work.I have gravitated to passing current through the materials. I have heard of at least two other researchers (Rod, and Brian) that have had health related problems with nan

Re: [Vo]:[Vo) nano nickel powders

DJ Cravens wrote: > First, I would like to reiterate what others have pointed out about the > health risks. I personally suffered symptoms of pulmonary hypertension > as a result to exposure. Initially the doctors diagnosed it as PH and > said I had 3 to 5 year life expectancy. But local doct

Re: [Vo]:[Vo) nano nickel powders

Something similar (mixing with oxide to prevent sintering) can be found in this patent: http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2012166808&recNum=264&docAn=US2012040017&queryString=evaporators&maxRec=193361 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > Dennis > > > Were yo

[Vo]:Strange TED talk supposedly about cold fusion

Google alerts brought me this. I do not know what to make of it. http://www.ted.com/conversations/18086/cold_fusion_conjecture_applyi.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Barron's (April 27, 2013) investigates Li-battery fires

On May 2, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Axil Axil wrote: How do theories explain lead, boron, iron and beryllium in LENR ash? Transmutation occurs but not at the a rate required to make detectable energy. Addition of a hydron to a target atom frequently is followed by fission into smaller fragments.

Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

This may be the reason why nanoplamonic experimentation is usually done using gold. Nickel is very reactive. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > > My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air. >> - probably it'

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [New post] The Bedlam Within Protons and Neutrons

Joseph, So sorry, please excuse me, the answer I requested is still pending. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/volltextserver/13138/1/thesis.pdf > > This experimenter found not much alpha decay help from high powered lasers > alone. > > Sorry