Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I agree that there is something very interesting going on with microtubules. I beleive that water has a role to play in this and have an article exploring this possibility for FtsZ, the procaryotic homolgue of tubulin, the building block of microtubules. In microtubules this should provide an environment within which the microtubules could well be doing some very interesting things. However, I dont think they are the substrate for conciousness. Firstly microtubules, even in neurons are far to dynamic to be able to store persistent information. If you start thinking instead of microtubules being able to 'tune in' to information that is not physically stored in the microtubules then there is nothing in the microtubules that tunes the information to a specific individual, which is surely what is neede for a quantum soul. For this part of the story I think you need to go elsewhere, particularly the nucleus, and particularly within the nucleus to the nucleolus. Try looking up information about what DNA is found in the nucleolus (as well as the ribosomal genes) and the structure of this DNA, and also, returning to Hameroff, , the effect of anaesthetics on the nucleolus. Nigel Dyer On 18/01/2014 05:41, H Veeder wrote: My Spider Senses are starting to tingle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk Harry On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Discovery of Quantum Vibrations in 'Microtubules' Inside Brain Neurons Supports Controversial Theory of Consciousness Jan. 16, 2014 — A review and update of a controversial 20-year-old theory of consciousness published in Physics of Life Reviews claims that consciousness derives from deeper level, finer scale activities inside brain neurons. The recent discovery of quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons corroborates this theory, according to review authors Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction, or Orch-OR. The two actually developed the idea separately, Sir Penrose being a physicist and Hameroff being a physician who specialized in anesthesia and cancer research. Roger was seeking a model of the brain that did not require computation. Hameroff wanted to know how anesthesia worked and where the conscious went when under. Penrose theorizes that spacetime is granular at the size of the Planck length and that quantum superposition is linked to the curvature. Orchestrated Reduction is the collapse of the superposition. Hameroff brought in the neuron microtubles which provide the structure. He sees a synchronous oscillation in neural MT can influence other neurons. Together they see these electrons as a sea embedded in the geometry of spacetime. Needless to say, they have many critics. :-)
[Vo]:ball lightning
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-instance-ball-lightning-captured-video.html#ajTabs
[Vo]:The photo reactor
Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community. Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3 Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2. Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of the science of Nanoplasmonics. Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12 W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do in fact occur. Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power. The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon input energy will produce a nuclear reaction. In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of more effective methods and materials, together with improved nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that 10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be reached. In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures. Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors. By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other examples of photo reactors but these inventors just don’t know it yet. The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topc ... 7TOPCJ.pdf This is just another spark driven nanoplasmonic LENR system. The photo driven anapole magnetic field produced by nanoparticles is recognized by the inventor but it is called a Santilli magnecules. A pattern is forming involving spark driven nanoparticle based LENR systems: Santilli, Mills, Rossi and DGT. The inventors of these systems all have a differing theoretical explanation of their reaction, but they are all basically the same nanoplasmonic driven photo reactors.
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the particles? The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this field that lowers the threshold required to fuse? One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. What is your opinion as to the mechanism? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:09 pm Subject: [Vo]:The photo reactor Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community. Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3 Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2. Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of the science of Nanoplasmonics. Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12 W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do in fact occur. Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power. The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon input energy will produce a nuclear reaction. In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of more effective methods and materials, together with improved nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that 10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be reached. In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures. Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors. By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other examples of photo reactors but these inventors just don’t know it yet. The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topc ... 7TOPCJ.pdf This is just another spark driven nanoplasmonic LENR system. The photo driven anapole magnetic field produced by nanoparticles is recognized by the inventor but it is called a Santilli magnecules. A pattern is forming involving spark driven nanoparticle based LENR systems: Santilli, Mills, Rossi and DGT. The inventors of these systems all have a differing theoretical explanation of their reaction, but they are all basically the same nanoplasmonic driven photo reactors.
RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP
Eric, the point is simply force people to get a license and pay royalty if they sell product. A patent is basically license to sue. Undefended, it is useless paper. Once BLP is able to produce a commercially viable device, entrepreneurs in many countries will attempt to copy it. BLP is very open about the technology, although *study* is required because it is very new. A copier may even achieve partial success, but not optimum performance without help. The investors deserve to be repaid many times over for their patience. I once worked for RCA, the source for compatible color television technology, now a world standard. Although the patents expired, RCA sold licenses to major Japanese companies for technical assistance and access to RCA engineers. Ideally, Mills would like a basic patent on hydrinos, but they exist in nature as “dark matter” and cannot be patented. Mike Carrell From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: His patent disclosers are descriptive of many possible strategies and ingredients [to catch any copiers] while concealing in plain sight the optimum path which s disclosed to licensees. Why would he intentionally make it hard for people to work out how to build the devices described in his patents? My understanding is that if people skilled in the art cannot do it, he risks losing the patent. If they can replicate and wish to use the procedure or device in something that they wish to sell, they must negotiate a license. Eric This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion...
For those of us who might want to bother to read: How did they control for contamination by atmospheric nitrogen? On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topcj/articles/V005/17TOPCJ.pdf Harry
Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP
Mike, You say that hydrinos are dark matter. What do you base this statement upon? I have long believed that dark matter and energy do not actually exist, but am open to ideas. It seems that the scientific community comes up with concepts to explain everything except LENR by imagining possible solutions. They may be correct about the dark duo, but it is important for them to show some firm proof, which is lacking. Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:34 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP Eric, the point is simply force people to get a license and pay royalty if they sell product. A patent is basically license to sue. Undefended, it is useless paper. Once BLP is able to produce a commercially viable device, entrepreneurs in many countries will attempt to copy it. BLP is very open about the technology, although *study* is required because it is very new. A copier may even achieve partial success, but not optimum performance without help. The investors deserve to be repaid many times over for their patience. I once worked for RCA, the source for compatible color television technology, now a world standard. Although the patents expired, RCA sold licenses to major Japanese companies for technical assistance and access to RCA engineers. Ideally, Mills would like a basic patent on hydrinos, but they exist in nature as “dark matter” and cannot be patented. Mike Carrell From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: His patent disclosers are descriptive of many possible strategies and ingredients [to catch any copiers] while concealing in plain sight the optimum path which s disclosed to licensees. Why would he intentionally make it hard for people to work out how to build the devices described in his patents? My understanding is that if people skilled in the art cannot do it, he risks losing the patent. If they can replicate and wish to use the procedure or device in something that they wish to sell, they must negotiate a license. Eric This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.
RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP
Hydrinos are hydrogen atoms whose electrons are at a lower energy state and whose orbital radius is reduced. The can for compounds as hydrides, but such is not yet exploited because of a lack of quantity. They are lighter than air and non-toxic. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:54 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP Hydrinos are electron groups who need their collective action to function. Think of them like cooper pairs of electrons. Once the cooper pair is removed from the influence of the superconductor, they become normal everyday electrons. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 PM, torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote: If hydrinos exist, the use of hydrino power may produce a surplus in hydrino gas. Its probable that this substance is no toxic and not a greenhouse gas. But I'm not so sure that will happened then it reach the ozone layer. Ozone is highly oxidative and may be destroyed by hyrinos. Are there any study about this? On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:17:05 -0500, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: I'm a long-standing observer/participant in Vortex, CMN S and the former Hydrino Study Group, and now the Society for Classical Physics [moderated by Dr, Farrell with Dr. Mills as a participant.] For what it's worth, I have shaken hands with both Mills and Fleischmann. I think I can give some perspective on the current discussion. Mills' back-story includes study at MIT where he gained new insight into the physics of accelerated electrons which led to his Orbitsphere model and the possibility of sub-ground states induced by the *close proximity* of energy holes presented by catalysts. Mainstream physics teaches a ground state of *isolated* hydrogen atoms. The Resonant Transfer reactions postulated and experimentally verified by Mills requires the **close proximity** of an energy hole receptor of specific magnitudes to effect a *non-radiative energy transfer* from the H atom, destabilizing it, which then shrinks into the hydrino state. In that moment, the H atom is no longer *isolated*. In Mills' current work, the favored hydrino state is H[1/4]; spectroscopic signatures of lower states have been seen. The energy release is measured at 200 times the energy required to produce an isolated H atom. Mills' task has been to find a means to utilize this energy on a commercial scale. The above are not speculations, but based on experiments done with instruments calibrated to national standards by a staff which includes six Ph.D.s and independent laboratories. Mills' experiments have included liquid, gas, and solid phases. The solid fuels include compounds of inexpensive materials when heated create the catalytic conditions for H atoms also in the molecule to transition to the hydrino state: hence CIHT- Catalyst Induced Hydrino Transition. This is the invention of master chemist. Mills has been supported by $[tens of millions] from private investors over a period of some 20 years. He is under no obligation to publish, but his publication record is exemplary, with over 90 Journal papers, three books available as free downloads from the BLP website. He has an obligation to protect his investors with a strong patent position. A irony is that his major discovery is world-changing but is a natural phenomenon which cannot be patented as such. This is typical of 'chemical' patents. His patent disclosers are descriptive of many possible strategies and ingredients [to catch any copiers] while concealing in plain sight the optimum path which s disclosed to licensees. Mills has shown reduction to practice by frequent posting on his website technical papers at each stage of his progress. One might see these as 'field notes' which with refinement wind up in juried technical journals listed on the website. Summary and tutorial information makes its way into the Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics, available as a free download form the website. As of the preset writing, the BLP website is in a very fluid state, which has led to misunderstandings by participants of Vo and CMNS to jump to conclusions, but others to dig in and do homework. The Home Page is current and contains links to relevant papers and the patent disclosure. The rest covers an earlier embodiment of CIHT with excellent validation reports. BLP is revising he website and has promised a demonstration of the new device on Jan. 28 to a restricted audience. Even that is not the whole system, for it will not include the magnetohydrodynamic cryogenic output module. Mills chooses his words carefully, and even apparently radical statements have an observational base. He must present a positive outlook to keep his investors happy without compromising the growing patent position. The current device is a compact machine to feed a series of fuel pills to a reaction chamber and to recharge the pills with ordinary water and reuse them. The reaction chamber zaps
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
EMF concentration is just on of the features that the Maxwell equations allow to happen. With the proper methods, materials and procedures involving EMF waveforms(sub-wave-length focusing and resonances), restrictions on EMF concentration can be overcome to fantastic levels. The deep infrared(terahertz) is ideal for this type of wavelength manipulation because the wavelength is so long. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the particles? The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this field that lowers the threshold required to fuse? One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. What is your opinion as to the mechanism? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:09 pm Subject: [Vo]:The photo reactor Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community. Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3 Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2. Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of the science of Nanoplasmonics. Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12 W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do in fact occur. Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power. The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon input energy will produce a nuclear reaction. In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of more effective methods and materials, together with improved nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that 10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be reached. In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures. Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors. By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other examples of photo reactors but these inventors just don’t know it yet. The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topc ... 7TOPCJ.pdf This is just another spark driven nanoplasmonic LENR system. The photo driven anapole magnetic field produced by nanoparticles is recognized by the inventor but it is called a Santilli magnecules. A pattern is forming involving spark driven nanoparticle based LENR systems: Santilli, Mills, Rossi and DGT. The inventors of these systems all have a differing theoretical explanation of their reaction, but they are all basically the same nanoplasmonic driven photo reactors.
Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP
Dear Mike, Just about the BLP's Demo of Jan 28, I want to mention that DGT has presented a 9+ hours demo at ICCF 18 and 2 days before it has officially published A PROTOCOL predicting the paameters and results they will obtain during the demo. See please: DEFKALION'S TEST PROTOCOL FOR PUBLIC DEMO http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/test-protocol-for-public-demo-test-code.html DEFKALION HAS KEPT ITS PROMISE http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/defkalion-has-kept-its-promise.html I think Randy could do the same thing, it demonstrates that he rules the situation and the device. Plus he can explain what he actually has achieved , both in power and in energy. Such a Protocol is necessary, I think. Peter On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mike, You say that hydrinos are dark matter. What do you base this statement upon? I have long believed that dark matter and energy do not actually exist, but am open to ideas. It seems that the scientific community comes up with concepts to explain everything except LENR by imagining possible solutions. They may be correct about the dark duo, but it is important for them to show some firm proof, which is lacking. Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:34 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP Eric, the point is simply force people to get a license and pay royalty if they sell product. A patent is basically license to sue. Undefended, it is useless paper. Once BLP is able to produce a commercially viable device, entrepreneurs in many countries will attempt to copy it. BLP is very open about the technology, although **study** is required because it is very new. A copier may even achieve partial success, but not optimum performance without help. The investors deserve to be repaid many times over for their patience. I once worked for RCA, the source for compatible color television technology, now a world standard. Although the patents expired, RCA sold licenses to major Japanese companies for technical assistance and access to RCA engineers. Ideally, Mills would like a basic patent on hydrinos, but they exist in nature as “dark matter” and cannot be patented. Mike Carrell *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.comeric.wal...@gmail.com?] *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 11:35 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: His patent disclosers are descriptive of many possible strategies and ingredients [to catch any copiers] while concealing in plain sight the optimum path which s disclosed to licensees. Why would he intentionally make it hard for people to work out how to build the devices described in his patents? My understanding is that if people skilled in the art cannot do it, he risks losing the patent. If they can replicate and wish to use the procedure or device in something that they wish to sell, they must negotiate a license. Eric This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP
Dear Mike, The Mills concept of the electron is simplistic. Mills has made the ‘only one world mistake’. There are at least 500different phases of matter; each phase lives in its own world. Most of these new phases of matter involve the electron. To understand that particular world, one must study it in its own context. Each phase corresponds to a particular set of movements that the electron ensemble executes. The key concept is COLLECTIVE, in other word more than one election is required to dance. (Phys.org)—“Forget solid, liquid, and gas: there are in fact more than 500phases of matter. In a major paper in today's issue of Science, Perimeter Faculty member Xiao-Gang Wen reveals a modern reclassification of all of them. Using modern mathematics, Wen and collaborators reveal a new system which can, at last, successfully classify symmetry-protected phases of matter. Their new classification system will provide insight about these quantum phases of matter, which may in turn increase our ability to design states of matter for use in superconductors or quantum computers. This paper, titled, Symmetry-Protected Topological Orders in Interacting Bosonic Systems, is a revealing look at the intricate and fascinating world of quantum entanglement, and an important step toward a modern reclassification of all phases of matter.” Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-12-phases-phase.html#jCp On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: Hydrinos are hydrogen atoms whose electrons are at a lower energy state and whose orbital radius is reduced. The can for compounds as hydrides, but such is not yet exploited because of a lack of quantity. They are lighter than air and non-toxic. Mike Carrell *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 8:54 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP Hydrinos are electron groups who need their collective action to function. Think of them like cooper pairs of electrons. Once the cooper pair is removed from the influence of the superconductor, they become normal everyday electrons. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 PM, torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote: If hydrinos exist, the use of hydrino power may produce a surplus in hydrino gas. Its probable that this substance is no toxic and not a greenhouse gas. But I'm not so sure that will happened then it reach the ozone layer. Ozone is highly oxidative and may be destroyed by hyrinos. Are there any study about this? On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:17:05 -0500, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: I’m a long-standing observer/participant in Vortex, CMN S and the former Hydrino Study Group, and now the Society for Classical Physics [moderated by Dr, Farrell with Dr. Mills as a participant.] For what it’s worth, I have shaken hands with both Mills and Fleischmann. I think I can give some perspective on the current discussion. Mills’ back-story includes study at MIT where he gained new insight into the physics of accelerated electrons which led to his Orbitsphere model and the possibility of “sub-ground” states induced by the **close proximity** of energy holes presented by catalysts. Mainstream physics teaches a “ground state” of **isolated** hydrogen atoms. The “Resonant Transfer” reactions postulated and experimentally verified by Mills requires the **close proximity** of an energy hole receptor of specific magnitudes to effect a **non-radiative energy transfer** from the H atom, destabilizing it, which then shrinks into the hydrino state. In that moment, the H atom is no longer * *isolated**. In Mills’ current work, the favored hydrino state is H[1/4]; spectroscopic signatures of lower states have been seen. The energy release is measured at 200 times the energy required to produce an isolated H atom. Mills’ task has been to find a means to utilize this energy on a commercial scale. The above are not speculations, but based on experiments done with instruments calibrated to national standards by a staff which includes six Ph.D.s and independent laboratories. Mills’ experiments have included liquid, gas, and solid phases. The solid fuels include compounds of inexpensive materials when heated create the catalytic conditions for H atoms also in the molecule to transition to the hydrino state: hence CIHT- Catalyst Induced Hydrino Transition. This is the invention of master chemist. Mills has been supported by $[tens of millions] from private investors over a period of some 20 years. He is under no obligation to publish, but his publication record is exemplary, with over 90 Journal papers, three books available as free downloads from the BLP website. He has an obligation to protect his investors with a strong patent position. A irony is that his major discovery is world-changing but is a natural phenomenon which cannot be patented as such. This is typical of ‘chemical’ patents. His
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. In the context of known physics, a p+p reaction will not go anywhere very quickly (unless Jones is right about reversible proton fusion). The proton-proton chain that is thought to power the sun relies upon a step in which a very unstable and short-lived [pp]* state is followed by a beta-plus decay to get a deuteron (and a positron and electron neutrino). This second step depends upon the weak interaction and is extremely slow, and hence unfavored. If the weak interaction were faster, the sun would rapidly burn through its fuel (or perhaps explode). For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR are compelled either to modify the application of the weak interaction (as in the case of Ed Storms, who seems to be saying that it just doesn't apply to the hydroton) or increase the rate of beta-plus decay by localizing energy in the system to get a neutron (Widom and Larsen) or do something else along these lines. It is the weak interaction that is causing their explanations so much difficulty. Because the weak interaction is (normally) so slow, I find the d+p, d+d, p+Ni, etc., reactions much more promising. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Under intense EMF radiation, the charge of the fermions: nucleus, nucleon, and quark are screened in part or completely based on the EMF power level. When the EMF is removed, matter will reconfigure itself in transmutation. There will be a good deal of probability and uncertainty involved in this transmutation process but the process must release positive energy to meet the conservation of energy requirements. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. In the context of known physics, a p+p reaction will not go anywhere very quickly (unless Jones is right about reversible proton fusion). The proton-proton chain that is thought to power the sun relies upon a step in which a very unstable and short-lived [pp]* state is followed by a beta-plus decay to get a deuteron (and a positron and electron neutrino). This second step depends upon the weak interaction and is extremely slow, and hence unfavored. If the weak interaction were faster, the sun would rapidly burn through its fuel (or perhaps explode). For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR are compelled either to modify the application of the weak interaction (as in the case of Ed Storms, who seems to be saying that it just doesn't apply to the hydroton) or increase the rate of beta-plus decay by localizing energy in the system to get a neutron (Widom and Larsen) or do something else along these lines. It is the weak interaction that is causing their explanations so much difficulty. Because the weak interaction is (normally) so slow, I find the d+p, d+d, p+Ni, etc., reactions much more promising. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
I wrote: For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR ... (Widom and Larsen) That was a little poorly thought-through. Widom and Larsen are not proposing a p+p reaction. They're proposing a p+e electron capture reaction, which also relies upon the weak interaction. Apparently the weak interaction can be sped up if the mass of the electron is increased, and this is what I think they are trying to do. I assume that if the electron mass cannot be increased through the local concentration of energy (as may argue is impossible or ill-conceived), the weak interaction will proceed slowly and cause the difficulties I was getting at. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Maxwell's equations are classical and quantum mechanics are the more recent theory. I am wondering how quantum mechanics explains this behavior. Or, do they remain silent about the effect? What wave function allows this to occur? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor EMF concentration is just on of the features that the Maxwell equations allow to happen. With the proper methods, materials and procedures involving EMF waveforms(sub-wave-length focusing and resonances), restrictions on EMF concentration can be overcome to fantastic levels. The deep infrared(terahertz) is ideal for this type of wavelength manipulation because the wavelength is so long. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the particles? The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this field that lowers the threshold required to fuse? One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. What is your opinion as to the mechanism? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:09 pm Subject: [Vo]:The photo reactor Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community. Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3 Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2. Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of the science of Nanoplasmonics. Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12 W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do in fact occur. Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power. The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon input energy will produce a nuclear reaction. In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of more effective methods and materials, together with improved nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that 10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be reached. In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures. Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors. By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other examples of photo reactors but these inventors just don’t know it yet. The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topc ... 7TOPCJ.pdf This is just another spark driven nanoplasmonic LENR system. The photo driven anapole magnetic field produced by nanoparticles is recognized by the inventor but it is called a Santilli magnecules. A pattern is forming involving spark driven nanoparticle based LENR systems: Santilli, Mills,
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Hot Electrons Do the Impossible - Plasmon-Induced Dissociation of H2 http://www.princeton.edu/mae/people/faculty/carter/EAC-267.pdf Did I explain this to you before? On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR ... (Widom and Larsen) That was a little poorly thought-through. Widom and Larsen are not proposing a p+p reaction. They're proposing a p+e electron capture reaction, which also relies upon the weak interaction. Apparently the weak interaction can be sped up if the mass of the electron is increased, and this is what I think they are trying to do. I assume that if the electron mass cannot be increased through the local concentration of energy (as may argue is impossible or ill-conceived), the weak interaction will proceed slowly and cause the difficulties I was getting at. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Since the mid-20th century, it has been understood that Maxwell's equations are not exact laws of the universe, but are a classical approximation to the more accurate and fundamental theory of quantum electrodynamics. In most cases, though, quantum deviations from Maxwell's equations are immeasurably small. Exceptions occur when the particlehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photonnature of light is important or for very strong electric fields. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Maxwell's equations are classical and quantum mechanics are the more recent theory. I am wondering how quantum mechanics explains this behavior. Or, do they remain silent about the effect? What wave function allows this to occur? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor EMF concentration is just on of the features that the Maxwell equations allow to happen. With the proper methods, materials and procedures involving EMF waveforms(sub-wave-length focusing and resonances), restrictions on EMF concentration can be overcome to fantastic levels. The deep infrared(terahertz) is ideal for this type of wavelength manipulation because the wavelength is so long. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the particles? The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this field that lowers the threshold required to fuse? One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. What is your opinion as to the mechanism? Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:09 pm Subject: [Vo]:The photo reactor Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community. Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3 Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2. Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of the science of Nanoplasmonics. Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12 W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do in fact occur. Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power. The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon input energy will produce a nuclear reaction. In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of more effective methods and materials, together with improved nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that 10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be reached. In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures. Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors. By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other examples of photo reactors but these inventors just don’t know it yet. The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
David,
Here is an very simplified view of how colliding oppositely charged
plasmon waves might look when two adjacent metallic nanoparticles are
subjected to a large voltage gradient.
Surface electrons and protons (or +ions) quickly flow to opposite sides
and the nanoparticles collide with assistance of the local coulomb field.
The positive and negative charges at the collision point receive
large additional energy kicks from like-charges behind them and
opposite-charges in front. The additional collectively supplied
energy/momentum can be very large - and analogous to how the atom
at an arrow's tip borrows energy from the arrow body to penetrate
a target it would bounce off of if it was a separate atom.
| (+) (-) |
| -- VOLTAGE - |
| |
-+-+
---+++---+++
--- +++ --- +++
---+++---+++
-+-+
---+++---+++
--- +++ --- +++
---+++---+++
-+-+
NANOPARTICLE NANOPARTICLE
David Roberson wrote:
Axil,
How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics
of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the
particles?
The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface
of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this
field that lowers the threshold required to fuse? One of my favorite
concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing
magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be
a form of hot fusion if active.
What is your opinion as to the mechanism?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 2:09 pm
Subject: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Beside neutrons, there is another less traveled road to the initiation of
nuclear reactions that has been under the radar in the nuclear community.
Many years ago, it was shown that high energy lasers could induce fission
and fusion if the power of the laser pulse was strong enough
http://physics.aps.org/story/v5/st3
Photo induced nuclear reactions begin to occur when the power density of
the infrared light reached just under 10^^20 W/cm2.
Since the time of unaided photo nuclear reactions were demonstrated at the
turn of this century, it has been shown that gold nano-particles used as
nano-lenses can amplify and concentrate infrared light by 9 orders of
magnitudes. This is experimentally verified performance that comes out of
the science of Nanoplasmonics.
Now with gold Nano-particles, it is logical to expect nuclear reactions
will occur when laser light with an intensity of 10^^10 W/cm2 to 10^^12
W/cm2 will occur. If you are interested, experimental results have been
published as verification. That is 9 orders of magnitude less than unaided
photo irradiation. Experiments using gold nano-particles in water
suspension irradiated by laser light of this reduced level of intensity do
in fact occur.
Since then, experimentally verified light amplification by nano-structures
has been observed to reach a top end of 10 to the 15 power.
The idea is that if more and more nano-particle infrared photo
concentration is applied to a system, then less and less infrared photon
input energy will produce a nuclear reaction.
In current photo reactors under development, with additional tweaking of
more effective methods and materials, together with improved
nano-structure shapes and topology, it is not unreasonable to expect that
10 to the 20th power concentration or more of photo application might be
reached.
In current photo based nuclear reactors, that means that it is reasonable
to assume that nuclear reactions will occur if UNAPMLIFIED infrared light
were to interact with properly engineered nanostructures.
Increased infrared photo amplification is what has been done in the design
of the current crop of Nickel/Hydrogen reactors.
By the way, both the Mills reactor and the Santilli process are other
examples of photo reactors but these inventors just donât know it yet.
The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27
Confirmations of Santilliâs Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of
Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations
J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang
Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate
controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Hot Electrons Do the Impossible - Plasmon-Induced Dissociation of H2 http://www.princeton.edu/mae/people/faculty/carter/EAC-267.pdf Did I explain this to you before? You have mentioned this before. From the abstract: Surface plasmons excited in the Au nanoparticle decay into hot electrons with energies between the vacuum level and the work function of the metal. That appears to place an upper bound on the hot electrons of the work function of the metal. That of gold is 4-5 eV [1]. Is an electron in the range of 4-5 eV sufficient to bring about electron capture in the way that Widom and Larsen would like? (My guess: a lot more than 5 eV is going to be required.) Eric [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_function#Work_functions_of_elements
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
I suppose that the reactions you favor such as d + p appear to be easier to believe because it is difficult to detect the p + p immediate ash. One suspicion that I have harbored for some time now is that the p + p reaction is very common within the sun's active region. But, the energy released at that event is rampart in the local environment and can easily break up one of the nearby proton pairs so that they return to separate components. From earlier research, I saw absolute proof that PP can not remain in that form, even thought the strong force should overcome the coulomb force once they are in contact. The reason being that D is the only stable pair of nucleons and any other pair will decay into D. This includes NN or PP. It does take time for the PP to decay into PN by the weak force, so I suspect that the reaction is not going to be all that common. The forces ready to break up the PP pair have plenty of time to do their jobs unless some mechanism exists that takes this energy out slowly. An electron capture seems to be the best bet since the 511 keV pairs are not detected. Ed's concept might be able to assist with this problem. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. In the context of known physics, a p+p reaction will not go anywhere very quickly (unless Jones is right about reversible proton fusion). The proton-proton chain that is thought to power the sun relies upon a step in which a very unstable and short-lived [pp]* state is followed by a beta-plus decay to get a deuteron (and a positron and electron neutrino). This second step depends upon the weak interaction and is extremely slow, and hence unfavored. If the weak interaction were faster, the sun would rapidly burn through its fuel (or perhaps explode). For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR are compelled either to modify the application of the weak interaction (as in the case of Ed Storms, who seems to be saying that it just doesn't apply to the hydroton) or increase the rate of beta-plus decay by localizing energy in the system to get a neutron (Widom and Larsen) or do something else along these lines. It is the weak interaction that is causing their explanations so much difficulty. Because the weak interaction is (normally) so slow, I find the d+p, d+d, p+Ni, etc., reactions much more promising. Eric
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
A pile of particles(micro and nano) act as a system where the big particles feed power to the little particles. It is like a multi stage rocket where the big stage feed power to the smaller stage. At the end of the line, the smallest stage has a huge amount of power built up from all the bigger fellows down the line of contact. The bigger the pile and the broader the particle size differences, the more power is fed to the smallest particles in line. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Hot Electrons Do the Impossible - Plasmon-Induced Dissociation of H2 http://www.princeton.edu/mae/people/faculty/carter/EAC-267.pdf Did I explain this to you before? You have mentioned this before. From the abstract: Surface plasmons excited in the Au nanoparticle decay into hot electrons with energies between the vacuum level and the work function of the metal. That appears to place an upper bound on the hot electrons of the work function of the metal. That of gold is 4-5 eV [1]. Is an electron in the range of 4-5 eV sufficient to bring about electron capture in the way that Widom and Larsen would like? (My guess: a lot more than 5 eV is going to be required.) Eric [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_function#Work_functions_of_elements
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
More http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201207019/pdf Organized Plasmonic Clusters with High Coordination Number and Extraordinary Enhancement in Surface-Enhanced Raman Scattering (SERS) On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: A pile of particles(micro and nano) act as a system where the big particles feed power to the little particles. It is like a multi stage rocket where the big stage feed power to the smaller stage. At the end of the line, the smallest stage has a huge amount of power built up from all the bigger fellows down the line of contact. The bigger the pile and the broader the particle size differences, the more power is fed to the smallest particles in line. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Hot Electrons Do the Impossible - Plasmon-Induced Dissociation of H2 http://www.princeton.edu/mae/people/faculty/carter/EAC-267.pdf Did I explain this to you before? You have mentioned this before. From the abstract: Surface plasmons excited in the Au nanoparticle decay into hot electrons with energies between the vacuum level and the work function of the metal. That appears to place an upper bound on the hot electrons of the work function of the metal. That of gold is 4-5 eV [1]. Is an electron in the range of 4-5 eV sufficient to bring about electron capture in the way that Widom and Larsen would like? (My guess: a lot more than 5 eV is going to be required.) Eric [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_function#Work_functions_of_elements
Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document
In reply to David Roberson's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:59:32 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] I mentioned the energy lost to the catalyst when I actually meant to include all of the various sinks. The main point I was intending to make is that energy and thus the mass associated with that energy exits the hydrino. I have one idea as to how that loss of mass may be distributed among the electron and proton. If the volume taken up by the electric fields is reduced by the closer orbital of the electron, then I would tend to think of it as being extracted from the field pattern. That would appear to include both components. This is speculation on my part. Dave It's precisely the same speculation I made. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion...
Not having read the article in detail: Taken at face value, Figure 11 is consistent with air contamination. The peaks containing oxygen increase in an amount consistent with a ratio of 1:5 O:N in the atmosphere. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:41 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us who might want to bother to read: How did they control for contamination by atmospheric nitrogen? On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topcj/articles/V005/17TOPCJ.pdf Harry
Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:06:06 -0500: Hi, [snip] If the spin and charge leave the elctron, what happens to the orbit and energy of the electron. Remember that he quantum properties of the electron can be separated(delocalized) into separate quasiparticles: spin, charge, and orbit. To me, a quasi particle sounds like a mathematical manipulation, not necessarily a real phenomenon. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document
Thinking in terms of particles give people a warm feeling, but the quasi particle concept comes out of the wave mature of matter. One concept that Mills does not accept is non locality of a particle's quantum properties. It is analogous to a person that accepts monotonic music that is produced by one instrument but does not believe in the music that is produced by an orchestra. A collection of electrons can form a complex song rich in wave function complexity. To make this complex song of the electron easer to understand, the quasiparticle concept was invented. For example, photons and electrons can come together to form a single complex waveform called polaritron(a quasiparticle). I strongly suspect that Mills would not accept that this type of waveform is real even though a complete branch of science is based on it. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:06:06 -0500: Hi, [snip] If the spin and charge leave the elctron, what happens to the orbit and energy of the electron. Remember that he quantum properties of the electron can be separated(delocalized) into separate quasiparticles: spin, charge, and orbit. To me, a quasi particle sounds like a mathematical manipulation, not necessarily a real phenomenon. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:A world sound record
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-world-longest-duration-echo-man-made.html New world record set for longest duration echo in a man-made structure The whispering gallery wave is central to photonic energy concentration in LENR. An echo lasting just under two minutes was created in a large oil tank. The sound wave of a gunshot traveled round the inner tank for a very long time before it lost all its strength.
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion...
*Confirmations Via Excess Heat * It is evident that the sole measurements of excess Nitrogen following the activation of the arc is not sufficient to establish that said excess originated from the ICNF of Deuterium and Carbon into Nitrogen due to various possible alternative interpretations. Due to the crucial character of heath measurements, Hadronic Reactor V was equipped with a variety of internal and external sensors connected to the touch screen control of the arc that had an accurate recording of absorbed electric power, internal and external temperatures and other data all expressed as a function of time. Copy of the complete record of these data can be downloaded from the link of Ref. [16]. In Fig. (*14*), we report one of the various temperature profiles on hand measurements via thermocouples for the main cylindrical part of the hadronic reactor and of the end flanges during the conduction of one of the tests. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:21 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Not having read the article in detail: Taken at face value, Figure 11 is consistent with air contamination. The peaks containing oxygen increase in an amount consistent with a ratio of 1:5 O:N in the atmosphere. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:41 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us who might want to bother to read: How did they control for contamination by atmospheric nitrogen? On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topcj/articles/V005/17TOPCJ.pdf Harry
Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:39:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] For example, photons and electrons can come together to form a single complex waveform called polaritron(a quasiparticle). I strongly suspect that Mills would not accept that this type of waveform is real even though a complete branch of science is based on it. You might want to take a look at his derivation of the photon equations, based upon excited states of the electron. I think the photon/electron interaction is basic to his theory. He talks about a trapped photon providing pseudo charge. Now trapped photon + electron sounds to me an awful lot like your definition of a polariton, except that it's a genuine one for one coupling, rather than a photon with an ensemble of electrons. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document
Wiil do. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:39:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] For example, photons and electrons can come together to form a single complex waveform called polaritron(a quasiparticle). I strongly suspect that Mills would not accept that this type of waveform is real even though a complete branch of science is based on it. You might want to take a look at his derivation of the photon equations, based upon excited states of the electron. I think the photon/electron interaction is basic to his theory. He talks about a trapped photon providing pseudo charge. Now trapped photon + electron sounds to me an awful lot like your definition of a polariton, except that it's a genuine one for one coupling, rather than a photon with an ensemble of electrons. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:15:56 -0500: Hi, [snip] Beauty comes from truth. The truth is not always beautiful. However what I was trying to say is that whether or not one finds something easy to swallow varies from one person to the next. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion...
very astute. Harry On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:21 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Not having read the article in detail: Taken at face value, Figure 11 is consistent with air contamination. The peaks containing oxygen increase in an amount consistent with a ratio of 1:5 O:N in the atmosphere. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:41 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us who might want to bother to read: How did they control for contamination by atmospheric nitrogen? On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The Open Physical Chemistry Journal, 2013, 5, 17-27 Confirmations of Santilli’s Intermediate Controlled Nuclear Fusion of Deuterium and Carbon Into Nitrogen Without Harmful Radiations J. V. Kadeisvili, C. Lynch and Y. Yang Abstract: We present five independent confirmations of the intermediate controlled nuclear fusion of Nitrogen from Deuterium and Carbon without the emission of harmful radiations or the release of radioactive waste, first achieved by R. M. Santilli [12] following extended mathematical, theoretical and experimental research, and preliminarily confirmed by R.Brenna, T. Kuliczkowski, and L.Ying [13]. http://www.benthamscience.com/open/topcj/articles/V005/17TOPCJ.pdf Harry
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills' GUTCP is very beautiful. What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery impacts those features. This *is* what GUTCP is all about. Many have attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the website, with details in journal papers. The salient beautiful feature of Mills' work is that he has a consistent system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills' work may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
Dear Mike, A new theory is only as good as the predictions that it can make that are latter proven to be true. Einstein made predictions that were proven true superseded and extended the laws of *Newton*. Where are the list of predictions made by the Mills theories that will extend existing laws? When I see that these predictions are supported by new experimental results, then Mills theory will no doubt gain acceptance. When the Mills reactor proves successful and can be improved by applying Mills theory, then Mills theory will be more broadly taken seriously. For one thing, having spent little time understanding Mills ideas if someone knows, why does the Mills reaction need a spark to activate the hydrino formation process? A energy hole will extract energy from a close by hydrogen bound electron when the catalyst gets within a close range. A spark is a high energy item. It’s a seeming contradiction that a high energy event can cause an electron to lose energy. This I don't yet understand. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills’ GUTCP is very beautiful. What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery impacts those features. This **is** what GUTCP is all about. Many have attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the website, with details in journal papers. The salient beautiful feature of Mills’ work is that he has a consistent system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills’ work may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. Mike Carrell *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? It would seem that much of the recent quantum computing, etc. fairly well establishes that qbits exist. What is your take on them? Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 9:50 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills’ GUTCP is very beautiful. What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery impacts those features. This *is* what GUTCP is all about. Many have attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the website, with details in journal papers. The salient beautiful feature of Mills’ work is that he has a consistent system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills’ work may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this list, claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: Hi, How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses orbitals in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills experiments can't. [snip] Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.
Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
Observation of your model reminds me of how electrons might be distributed as a
result of the presence of a strong high frequency resonance. If the particle
is tuned carefully then a sharp peak in response would seem likely. If the
drive frequency is not carefully tuned, the peak would be reduced a large
amount provided the particle acts as a high Q resonate tank.
I have difficulty accepting the condition that most of the particles have the
same resonant frequency since that parameter should be a strong function of the
3 dimensional shape of each nano particle as well as coupling to the nearby
ones. Perhaps the scrambling of the powder by external and internal fields or
vibrations results in regions that have a sharp resonant response where your
model operates. Also, there may be some unknown force that arises out of the
mix that coordinates the activity. Non linear systems occasionally tend to
generate peaks that far exceed any expected by linear vector additions and
rouge ocean waves appear to exhibit this type of behavior.
The reported extreme magnetic fields of the DGT device could be the agent that
scrambles and then coordinates the resonance you describe. I suspect that the
particles would be pushed and pulled by such a field.
My favorite type of coordinating mechanism is one that exhibits positive
feedback. In that case, the effect you seek causes a change to a variable that
reinforces the original agent of change. In this manner the field and effect
build together to a value that far exceeds any that would be observed by the
interaction of the relatively minor early stages. If the system only depended
upon the initial levels, the effect would be buried within the noise. My model
of Rossi's ECAT works in a manner somewhat consistent with that description.
If the ECAT did not exhibit positive feedback by thermal means, the controlled
power output would be much less. He appears to be fortunate in finding a
control means that allows his device to operate with a COP greater than 6.
If we delve into the world of oscillators, some ideas might arise that reveal
important clues. The large magnetic field seen by DGT likely is a result of a
large flow of charged particles within the device. Assuming that there is no
significant magnetic field before LENR takes over, I immediately would conclude
that there is some form of feedback involving the local magnetic field level
and the fusion reaction. Furthermore, the fusion reactions that arise as a
result of the local field must somehow cause that field to increase in
magnitude. Perhaps we should look for a mechanism that ejects electrons or
other charged particles in sync with the current magnetic field at each
location. If these suspect charged particles are randomly emitted, then they
would not tend to reinforce the original control field. This search for a
process appears to be an excellent project.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: pagnucco pagnu...@htdconnect.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor
David,
Here is an very simplified view of how colliding oppositely charged
plasmon waves might look when two adjacent metallic nanoparticles are
subjected to a large voltage gradient.
Surface electrons and protons (or +ions) quickly flow to opposite sides
and the nanoparticles collide with assistance of the local coulomb field.
The positive and negative charges at the collision point receive
large additional energy kicks from like-charges behind them and
opposite-charges in front. The additional collectively supplied
energy/momentum can be very large - and analogous to how the atom
at an arrow's tip borrows energy from the arrow body to penetrate
a target it would bounce off of if it was a separate atom.
| (+) (-) |
| -- VOLTAGE - |
| |
-+-+
---+++---+++
--- +++ --- +++
---+++---+++
-+-+
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--- +++ --- +++
---+++---+++
-+-+
NANOPARTICLE NANOPARTICLE
David Roberson wrote:
Axil,
How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics
of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the
particles?
The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface
of the metal which of course leads to a strong magnetic field. Is it this
field that lowers the
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement
Mills states: *The BEC is incorrectly interpreted as a single large atom having a corresponding probability wave function of quantum mechanics.* Since excitation occurs in units of ¥ in order of to conserve angular momentum as shown previously for electronic (Chapter 2), vibrational (Chapter 11), rotational (Chapter 12), and translational excitation (Chapter 3) and Bose Einstein statistics arise from an underlying deterministic physics (Chapter 24), this state comprised of an ensemble of individual atoms is predicted classically using known equations [110]. As in the case of the coherent state of photons in a laser cavity (Chapter 4), the coherency of the *BEC actually disproves the inherent Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle *(HUP) of quantum mechanics since the atomic positions and energies are precisely determined simultaneously. Furthermore, it is possible to form a BEC comprising molecules in addition to atoms [111] wherein the molecules lack zero order vibration in contradiction to the HUP. The classical physics underlying Bose Einstein statistics was covered in the Statistical Mechanics section. These are some of my favorite ideas wahed away by Mills theory. It must be possible under Mills theory to form a BEC out of ground state hydrinos. Are there ground state hydrinos? These things are Atoms( bosons) aren't they? Let 's see an experiment that produces a hydrino BEC and look for absolute certainty and determinism. That would be something to see. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? It would seem that much of the recent quantum computing, etc. fairly well establishes that qbits exist. What is your take on them? Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 9:50 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills’ GUTCP is very beautiful. What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery impacts those features. This **is** what GUTCP is all about. Many have attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the website, with details in journal papers. The salient beautiful feature of Mills’ work is that he has a consistent system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills’ work may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. Mike Carrell *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com janap...@gmail.com?] *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in strongly correlated systems. The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly correlated chemical system? The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and orbitals. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: Hi, [snip] I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if these exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on
