Hello.
Engineer from delta ohm (manufacter) confirms that:
1) The instruments measure enthalpy BY CALCULATION, given RH and
temperature, with Mollier diagrams
2) The probe is suitable only for mneasure humidity IN AIR, not in 100%
vapor mixture
3) Inside the e-cat, without air and with liquid
Jed Rothwell, it’s over.
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:[e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini
instrument is useless
Hello.
Engineer from delta ohm (manufacter) confirms that:
1) The instruments measure
on the screen of the datalogger
would not make sense. So did they calculate the wet fraction
afterwards or did they have it shown on the pc? Else they read the
number on
the little LCD display?? that would be at least bogus
mic
Il 04 agosto 2011 11:48, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com ha
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini
instrument is useless
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Jed Rothwell, it’s over.
So you admit the laws of thermodynamics have not been repealed, and 4.2 joules
still equal 1 calorie? Good. I am glad that you now
, then it should be
able to give you a RH
reading at that temperature... Provided you leave it in the steam long
enough so the RH sensor comes
up to the steam temperature.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mattia Rizzi [mailto:mattia.ri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:56 AM
Galantini said that reads grams of liquid water / m^3 of vapor on display of
HD37AB1347.
From Levi’s report, Galantini used an HP474ACR probe, that measure RH and
temperature.
In the 2nd email, Galantini claim that he measured the preassure inside the
e-cat. Nobody know how he measured, since
Daniel, *you* are wrong!
The ONLY *preassure* probe that can be connected is P37AB147*** and the
P37B147*
And these ones meaure *atmsopheric preassure*
The other probes that can be connected DON’T MEASURE PRESSURE.
And HP474ACR doesnt’ measure preassure.
From: Daniel Rocha
Sent:
Do you now think the eCat is Real or Fake?
Definetly a scientific scam
. That is because boiling point of water is directly
depended on pressure.
- Jouni
2011/8/5 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com:
Daniel, *you* are wrong!
The ONLY *preassure* probe that can be connected is P37AB147*** and
the
P37B147*
And these ones meaure *atmsopheric preassure*
The other
Again, Galantini said that he *measured* the preassure. There’s a big
difference between a calculation and a measuramernt.
Since Delta Ohm’s engineer said that the instrument and the probe IS NOT
SUITABLE for the measurement that Galtini did, then all derived (calculated)
measuremnt are
*Literature.
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini
instrument is useless
Again, Galantini said that he *measured* the preassure. There’s a big
difference between a calculation
IF-IF-IF
If you have 1bar
Yeah, but you need to measure it, and with the probes that can be connected,
you can measure *atmospehric pressure* with –20-+60C. If you put it inside a
100C enviroment, kaboom.
with 0% RH
Yeah, BUT THE PROBE IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE PUT INSIDE AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THE
from delta ohm confirms that
galantini instrument is useless
2011/8/5 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com:
They claims that tehy have measured a temperature 100 C degrees and a
pression equal to ambient preassure, so they claims that the steam is dry.
They may claim whatever they want
I have said that I believe his claims despite this. I believe the temperature
difference was a steady 5 deg C for 18 hours, because I assume Levi and
others are credible
With a temperature probe INSIDE the black box.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:37 PM
To:
In past Galantini said gr of liquid water / m^3 of vapor.
The instrument give gr. of water / m^3 of air, because it's absolute
humidity (read manual or wikipedia)
-Messaggio originale-
From: Enzo
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
originale-
From: Enzo
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Galantini report
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
wrote:
In past Galantini said gr of liquid water / m^3 of vapor.
In past the we didn't have
In krivit’s video the bucket is removed for around 30seconds, not few minutes.
From 11:10 to 11:20 and from 11:26 to 11:46 (SEE KRIVIT’S VIDEO)
And the water flow can’t be 7 liter/h since the pump is pumping every 2.5-3
seconds, so the true water flow is lower than 3 liter/h
LMI P18 pump has a
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
In krivit’s video the bucket is removed for around 30seconds, not few
minutes. From 11:10 to 11:20 and from 11:26 to 11:46 (SEE KRIVIT’S VIDEO)
That is correct, but I saw a longer video from Lewan
:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
And the water flow can’t be 7 liter/h since the pump is pumping every 2.5-3
seconds, so the true water flow is lower than 3 liter/h
LMI P18 pump has a maximum flow of 12 l/h at 100 strikes
2. Apart from the initial heat burst, the temperature was steady, as shown
in the laptop photos they took. So the flow must have been steady.
You have a terrible confusion in your head.
The “laptop photos” doesn’t exists at all for the february test (liquid water
calorimetry)
From: Jed Rothwell
was impressed by Levi in the video interview
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Apart from the initial heat burst, the temperature was steady, as shown
in the laptop photos they took. So the flow must have been steady.
You have a terrible confusion in your head.
The “laptop
Steam Quality Updates
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Again, if you write “7 l/h flow” you are talking about the test done in june,
with Krivit.
In june, there wan’t a weight scale . . .
That is not clear. There may have been one. In any case, this same argument
about how
as specification.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah. There is a problem: in Lewan’s test, where the flow was accurately
measured
Rothwell
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Report of 28 april:
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3166569.ece/BINARY/Report+test+of+E-cat+28+April+2011.pdf
As you
can you be sure it is not true?
Cen we be sure that we are not inside “Thge Matrix”?
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Percolator Effect
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The correct thing to do is to do
What will happen after Rossi’s Energy Catalyzer will be proved as a hoax?
We will ever seen the “rossi-belivers”?
We will see lenr-canr website closed, after this stomach punch?
We will see cold fusion researchers stop doing sloppy calorimetry and focusing
more on STRONG nuclear radiations before
It’s a dosimetric pump.
In every stroke it can inject a maximum volume of 2ml of water (volume is
regulable)
It’s regulable from 20 to 100 strokes/minute.
So with a 100 strokes/min and a volume of 2ml, the pump is running witha flow
of 12 liter/h.
With 25 strokes/min, the pump is running up to
They have not discovered a single valid reason to doubt his work
There is a problem: if you don’t want to watch the reasons, then you can’t see
them.
Jed, if the enrgy catalyzer will be proved as a hoax (or Rossi diseapper from
the public scenes [even with moneys]) then you will close the
Jed, what is your academic background?
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always
lying when they say things that are obviously false
I wrote:
If Jobs seriously believes
Jed Rothwell wrote: » In the first test, Galantini used a Delta Ohm
monitor to measure the relative humidity of the steam. This is a model
HD37AB1347 IAQ with a high temperature HP474AC SICRAM sensor. See:
http://www.deltaohm.com/ver2010/uk/st_airQ.php?str=HD37AB1347
The brochure and the
Jed Rothwell wrote: » In the first test, Galantini used a Delta Ohm
monitor to measure the relative humidity of the steam. This is a model
HD37AB1347 IAQ with a high temperature HP474AC SICRAM sensor. See:
http://www.deltaohm.com/ver2010/uk/st_airQ.php?str=HD37AB1347
The brochure and the
gives only the amount of
liquid water in suspension with steam. That was measured 1.2% and thus steam
quality was 98.8%.
Problem is that critics such as Mattia Rizzi and Krivit has wrong definition
for steam quality. Measuring steam quality is irrelevant because it is always
99-98%. Instead
Not “ISO standard”, but common standard.
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: About measurement of steam with Galantini probe
It’s the manufacter that say the readings are useless, not me.
If you don’t trust the manufacter
Wait a minute.
2011/9/22 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
If this whole thing is a scam, AND the below info is true, then this just
doesn't make sense...
Rossi's Home Sacrificed for Cold Fusion E-Cat Launch - Only several days
ago, Andrea Rossi stated on his blog that he had big
Inside this artcle we have many info
(http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3123849.ece):
“I am assuming all the risks. No one is risking any money except me,” said the
Italian engineer Andrea Rossi
“I get paid (by Defkalion) only when the installation is delivered and if it
3) The money from Defkalion within May.
2011/9/22 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
Inside this artcle we have many info (
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3123849.ece):
“*I am assuming all the risks*. No one is risking any money except me,”
said the Italian
by
sparging it into the water bucket and measure the change of water
temperature. Then we would not need to worry about the amount of overflown
water.
—Jouni
On Sep 22, 2011 6:21 PM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s the manufacter that say the readings are useless, not me
Inside this artcle we have many info ([link suppressed, it's a link to an
interview of Rossi done by Lewan at march]):
“*I am assuming all the risks*. No one is risking any money except me,”
said the Italian engineer Andrea Rossi
“I get paid (by Defkalion) only when the installation is delivered
Somebody read it? It seems blocked by an antispam...
2011/9/22 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
Inside this artcle we have many info ([link suppressed, it's a link to
an interview of Rossi done by Lewan at march]):
“I am assuming all the risks. No one is risking any money except
Ok sorry
2011/9/22 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
I've already read 3 posts from you with the same message above...
Exaclty.
The video was made ny an italian and show a TRUE 5kW 7kg/h (of liquid water)
and it's huge, compared to the krivit video, despite some experts.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Peter Heckert
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi
Ah, same parameters as in Krivit video.
5kW of power, 7kg/h of steam, same diameter of hose.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:21 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry
Exaclty.
The video was made ny an italian
Correction: 7kg/h of water consumed.
The calorimetry done in the video confirm results.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Rossi steam calorimetry
Ah, same parameters as in Krivit video.
5kW of power
The text quoted by Passerini was from a letter from Levi inviting Brian
Josephson to participate and not Brian Josephson's own words.
If was Levi, then This is NOT an official test of the University of Bologna
because the contract is not active yet. make sense.
-Messaggio
As was previously theorized, Rossi may have really been onto something.
Unfortunately, when the reaction occurs, it is difficult to keep stable; it
runs away and needs to be quenched.
Robert, Rossi made 58 of “difficult to keep stable” modules and put together.
If reaction is so instable,
I found who is the secret customer: Men In Black.
Guys, the dream is over. It’s time to wake up.
From: Michele Comitini
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:21 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)
All bets are off. The catalyst that
Rossi timeline:
Sept. 8, 2011 Rossi meeting with fourth potential customer (investor)
Sept. 7, 2011 Rossi device test for Lewan/Ny Teknik. Device shows outflow of
steam and water.
Sept. 6, 2011 Rossi device test with third potential customer (investor). NASA
staff present. Test inconclusive;
It was not brief. The temperature rose from 22:35 to 22:42, 7 minutes. That's
much too long for something like a momentary instrument fluctuation.
From Lewan report i see a rise of 0.7C from 22:35 to 22:40.
And i see temperature spikes up to 40 degrees when “the probe being pulled out
of the
The test was done in July, not June.
And we have a university professor that measure Energy with Kwh/h intead of
kWh.
And that can't do a correct integral (the formula of integral are wrong).
That's italy :(
-Messaggio originale-
From: Akira Shirakawa
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011
, 2011 5:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
That part was written by a Greek not an Italian, LOL. But that is probably a
typo given that it is unusual to write power as kwh/h and that the original
text was in greek.
2011/10/6 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri
that it is unusual to write power as kwh/h and that the original
text was in greek.
2011/10/6 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
The test was done in July, not June.
And we have a university professor that measure Energy with Kwh/h intead of
kWh.
And that can't do a correct integral
of POWER.
The report is totally wrong about this.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Alan J Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
At 08:10 AM 10/6/2011, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
And we have a university
/h (water) Χ 627,5 wh (needed energy for the evaporation of 1 kg of
water) = 9412 wh/h = 9,412 ***Kwh/h ENERGY produced*** in a hour during the
phase shift (evaporation).
http://22passi.blogspot.com/
-Messaggio originale-
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:29 PM
:35 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Here in ITALY, WE USE kWh for ENERGY and kW for POWER.
Not all of you. I know several Italians who use kWh/h, as I mentioned.
Not just Rossi.
kWh/h IS NOT AN INTERNATIONAL STANDARD
@Mixent
Stremmenson wrote:
As a consequence, the total production of thermal energy of this particular
reactor was: 9,412 Kwh/h + 1,22 Kwh/h = 10,6 Kwh/h
He used kWh/h as an ENERGY.
-Messaggio originale-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:55 PM
To:
was: 9,412 Kw + 1,22 Kw = 10,6 Kw
It's simply wrong.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Man on Bridges
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:38 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
Hi,
On 7-10-2011 0:30, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Stremmenson wrote:
As a consequence
to kW) and wrote “energy produced”. That’s very
wrong.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 3:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, i have a scientific degree. I know what are the unit
: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 3:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
You didn’t get the point. What is wrong is that they means kilowatt but they
talk about energy.
Stremmeson used kwh/h (equals to kW) and wrote
, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Stremmeson was a physics/chemistry professor from university of bologna.
He made several error inside this report. That’s not a typo, is a
conceptual error, a big one.
No, it isn't. He's talking about energy (Kwh) flow (/h).
http://www.wolframalpha.com/**input/?i=kWh/hhttp
A *nuclear reactor* cannot have a “CE Mark”.
It’s like searching the “CE Mark” of a Nuclear Bomb.
It’s not a gross market product.
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:52 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
How can you obtain a CE
The “CE mark” is essentially a self-certification.
The problem is that there isn’t a regulation inside the “CE mark” rules for
nuclear reactors.
Because this is a job for the national nuclear agency.
It’s like searching the “CE Mark” for nuclear bombs.
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Monday, October
Rossi says here that they issued some sort of conditional permit, with
restrictions. That is the sort of thing you would expect for an experimental
device. That sounds plausible. It is what I would expect a responsible
government official to issue.
Jed, please.
How can rossi had a permit if
.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Craig Haynie
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hey, it didn't blow up! And by the way, there does seem to
be a permit.
On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 15:20 +0200, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
How can rossi had a permit if inside
, and Nuclear Warning panels.
Here, in Italy too.
2011/10/29 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
How can rossi had a permit if inside the nuclear site there isn’t even a
SINGLE “Nuclear Warning” panel?
I don't know. I have not seen his application or permit
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hey, it didn't blow up! And by the way, there does seem to be
a permit.
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
No matter of what his going on inside the reactor.
Rossi made spectacular claims. He said that he generate heat by gamma
emission.
Yes, he did. Experts
/Isotopes_of_thorium#Thorium-229m
If you consider a gamma ray as photons originated by decays of excited decays
of the nucleus, you can have wave lengths near the visible spectrum,
2011/10/29 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
Am 29.10.2011 16:32, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Mattia Rizzi
, that is, below 120KeV.
2011/10/29 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
The gamma ray can have a small wavelength such that it could almost fit in
the range of visible light
I think you need to read some physics books. Gamma rays have smaller
wavelength then X-Rays and visible light. And a re more
You need to get a lawsuit against Rossi before asking it.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Hey, it didn't blow up! And by the way, there does seem
to be a permit.
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
That does
on small things. Just exchange wavelength to energy in
the quoted part and all is right, I was only talking about photon energy,
anyway.
2011/10/29 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
What are you talking about? You said that gamma rays had longest wavelength
then visibile light (“The gamma ray can
Maybe an Emperor, Jed?
-Messaggio originale-
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 8:26 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?
So he is a colonel. Or was. Interesting. There are not too many of them
in NATO. Perhaps
Peter, have you seen this comment on NyTeknik?
The video is inside the last article by Lewan.
The valve appear almost closed, so that’s why there was not so much liquid
water (5 liters according to the report).
[h=3]Closed water condensate drainage valve[/h]
Somebody asked Mr. Rossi about the
According to the report, EK measured the water flow before the test, but
not *during* the test.
I asked to Essen and confirmed that they doesn't have measured the flow
during the test.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Peter Heckert
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:43 PM
To:
adjust the injected it's not noticeable.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Peter Heckert
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 11:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi 1MW : Why is the energy hidden behind
pressboard?
Am 01.11.2011 22:59, schrieb Mattia Rizzi:
According
it. If there had been a lot of water coming out with steam, that bucket
would have overflowed in no time.
Incorrect since the valve is pratically closed. SImply you don't know.
By the way, i've readed many comments by guys that are experts of
thermodynamics: nobody will use the Colonel approach,
Correction: with the Colonel approach you collect *a part *of the water
already condensed, since there isn't a U water trap!
2011/11/3 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
it. If there had been a lot of water coming out with steam, that bucket
would have overflowed in no time.
Incorrect
Jed, i think you missed the most important part of my message.
So did the colonel, and so did the document they published.
I mean, Rossi and the colonel have worked toghether in the past.
2011/11/3 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
I think that the Colonel was hired
in no time.
Mattia Rizzi: Incorrect since the valve is pratically closed. SImply you
don't know.
By the way, i've readed many comments by guys that are experts of
thermodynamics: nobody will use the Colonel approach, but they install a
Demister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demister_%28vapor%29
a problem when there are
hundred of liquid water mixed with vapour. Mmmh.
2011/11/3 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Jed Rothwell: it. If there had been a lot of water coming out with
steam, that bucket would have overflowed in no time.
Mattia Rizzi: Incorrect since
Jed, i'm still waiting to know why an expert of thermodynamic, hired for
checking a 2,000,000$ trade, would:
1) Mesaure the energy by measuring the liquid water condensed and then
calculate the energy by the ASSUMPTION that the remaining water has been
converted into a dry steam, when there are
I add another piece: the TEG patent was rejected from EPO for lack of
novelty.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Robert Leguillon
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:50 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
I know that this post is going to ruffle some
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
The point 2 is CRITICAL when the measuremnt is done with point 1, because
without using a demister you made a mesuremnt error that *over-extimate*
the real energy produced.
Over-estimate by how much? 470 kW? I doubt
tube.
This not constrain water to go down, especially when there is a high wind
made by the steam.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 3:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Mats Lewan on Steam Quality
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Jed, how
The real purpose would be to find out how to
mass-produce similar machines.
It's interesting how you an write something like this quoted sentence and
still writing how Rossi is a genius and a great business man.
A great business man that sold his secrets for 2M$ USD, with a technology
valued
that and must be
paranoid. What would you do in Rossi's place?
2011/11/7 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
The real purpose would be to find out how to
mass-produce similar machines.
It's interesting how you an write something like this quoted sentence and
still writing how Rossi
: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: A real customer would not have accepted the 1MW plant.
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe filing a *true* patent request, instead of one that is bullshit.
I suspect he is not capable of doing
It's a Master degree.
I'm italian.
-Messaggio originale-
From: Berke Durak
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975
I'm being told that Dottore Magistrale in Filosofia is the
equivalent to a
A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.
-Messaggio originale-
From: David ledin
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat
A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a
version of
Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of
things right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was
the stuff of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the
Harvard Business School.
They will teach how to look like a scammer?
Indeed a good
Many and many times Rossi said that RD is confidential and that no more
information will be made available until patent protection.
Well, i and others guys have asked to Rossi about the publication of
caolorimetry test results from Universities, and if Bologna and Uppsala will be
free to
Ah, ask if results will be made available BEFORE patent protection.
From: Mattia Rizzi
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:04 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that
will be done in Universities
Many and many times Rossi said
We have the great luck that we don't know liers.
LOL
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:can we use such a program?
We have the great luck that we don't know liers.
Thank you for signalling the book.
peter
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011
Not in LENR I want to tell.
So Rossi is not in LENR?
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: can we use such a program?
Not in LENR I want to tell.
Peter
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
And, no, AR does not display any of the bodily traits of deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=uviXoafHWrU
Rossi's face: GOTHCA!
-Messaggio originale-
From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
this statement and disliked strongly the
logic and the ethics on which it is based.
But it is probably my fault and bias.
Peter
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Not in LENR I want to tell.
So Rossi is not in LENR?
From: Peter Gluck
Sent
He is not asking for money
Again? Why someone keeps saying He is not asking for money when it's not
true?
-Messaggio originale-
From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:36 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum
On Sun, Dec 4,
1:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
He is not asking for money
Again? Why someone keeps saying He is not asking for money when it's not
true?
Are you speaking
article on NASA Forum
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
-.-
Rossi is asking for money. He asked money to Defkalion in February/March
(A
LOT OF MONEY) for his technology (deadline of payment around June)
Stop saying that he is not asking for money, because
05, 2011 3:50 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
So Stanley Meter, a scammer (Ohio court sentence), was not a true
scammer?
Mmmh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
Bianchini instrument has a range between 20keV – some MeV, and he didi’t
measure anything in all tests. Shielding was partially cut off in january for
Villa’s detector. Bianchini measured nothing.
From: Joshua Cude
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
By the way I missed this McKubre test in US. Can you tell me more and provide
some pointers ?
I missed it too.
I think that Jed’s memory is wrong.
From: Andrea Selva
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT Triggered by Cosmic Rays?
Sorry Jed.
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