Re: [Vo]:Unsubscribe me, please

Thanks, and thanks for all the superb work you are doing for the LENR community, Jed. Lawry > On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Lawrence de Bivort <ldebiv...@gmail.com > <mail

[Vo]:Unsubscribe me, please

Thanks. Lawrence de Bivort > On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net <mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: > > Yes I was referring to high school grads for that rating, but it r

Re: [Vo]:The Future Of Solar

Hmmm. I think it is the native Americans who view the European immigration a as the unmitigated disaster. Of course, it was the indigenous people around the world who suffered from the European immigration a and colonizations. And it still going on in several places in the world. Sent from my

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

Good thing Sailer isn't hallucinating or mind-reading here! Hmm. His dad ran for Sudanese president. How suspicious! Hmmm. Kid builds a clock and this means he is…demonizing the West! On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:31 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Keep providing payoffs in terms of

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

Let's say that the kid's clock looked like a Hollywood bomb. The kid gets accosted by school personnel. So far so good. But instead of handcuffing him, belittling him, calling the cops, and suspending him, intelligent school personnel would have looked at the clock seen that it was no bomb,

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

nuances" are there to justify anti-"anyone not exactly like me." Lawry On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Lawrence de Bivort <ldebiv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Well, hell,

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

, probably not. But maybe in your world, "maybe" is sufficient. Cheers, Lawry Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Lawrence de Bivort <ldebiv...@gmail.com> >> wrote:

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

The biggest tragedy is that adults have failed to learn an important lesson--don't pander to your fears, don't embrace your bigotry, and don't throw our laws (against false arrest, and the right of adolescents to have their parents present when they are being interrogated) for example) and

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

I don't forget it. I was directly affected by it. Nor do I forget the atmosphere of bullying that the Columbine principal and coaches fostered in the school, and how the students-turned-killers were the standing target of that bullying. When will people learn that when people are mistreated,

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

" I don't want them reacting the way the ones in Texas did." Thank you for this, Eric. To react differently, people have to change their thinking, abandon their emotional and cognitive scarring from the past, eschew their bigotries, challenge their own assumptions and the assertions of

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

Jed, this may seem unconventional, but has a crowd-sourcing approach been considered? I know of at least one scientific program -- small, admittedly -- that is being crowd-funded. A LENR proposal would appeal more broadly, I think, and might be able to raise adequate research funding. A

Re: [Vo]:Boiling at 0g

test -- please disregard On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Michele Comitini wrote: Quite different from what we are used to: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2001/09/03/ast07sep_2_resources/bubble0g.mpg Full article here:

Re: [Vo]:NASA officially responds to an FOIA request that Rossi has never proved his claim

- On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Dusty wrote: That sounds about right! SCAM! Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/10/nasa-engineer-explains-why-rossi-demos-failed/ According to a slide presentation given by NASA engineer Michael A. Nelson, which New

Re: [Vo]:Krivit names some Rossi customer names

On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: In Italy too Is that a bamboo bong on Lisa's shoulder? Not that I would know what a bong is, mind you. T

Re: [Vo]:?CENSORSHIP? re: NASA's BPP Russian version

You guys have it all wrong. The Iranian arsenal consists not only of the aforementioned nukes but about 85% of Saddam Hussein's WMD stash. These will be delivered via secret faith-powered gravity tunnels that now link Iran and Tel Aviv (the Gaza tunnels are just a cover for this construction)

Re: [Vo]:?CENSORSHIP? re: NASA's BPP Russian version

Damn. You are right. back to the drawing board. On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: doesnt sound plausible. where's yellowstone supervolcano, missing suitcase-nukes and ye olde pulse.. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Lawrence de Bivort debiv...@evolutionaryservices.org

Re: [Vo]:Downwind Faster than the Wind (DWFTTW)

Sailboats vary enormously in terms of their favored point of sailing. I would guess that most sailboats do best with the wind on their beam (90 deg.) My boat is best on that point, and I can also sail into the wind to about 28 degrees without pinching, which is exceptionally. Downwind is

Re: [Vo]:Downwind Faster than the Wind (DWFTTW)

I am guessing that the propeller propels a belt/chain which is geared into the wheels. Lawry On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I do not see how this can work! They are going with the wind, so if they start to travel at the same speed as the wind, the propeller should stop

Re: [Vo]:Downwind Faster than the Wind (DWFTTW)

vertically, with the wind providing the forward thrust.) Interestingand impressive to a sailor like me who has often cursed down-wind speeds. Lawry On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote: I am guessing that the propeller propels a belt/chain which is geared into the wheels

Re: [Vo]:Video of every known nuclear explosion conducted on the planet

the Polakow-Suransky book, and look at the VELA materials. On Jul 31, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Lawrence de Bivort wrote: France mounted a nuclear weapons program when it decided that it shouldn't rely on the US nuclear umbrella and established its 'force de frappe' policies

Re: [Vo]:Video of every known nuclear explosion conducted on the planet

I read this quickly and think it is pretty good. The FAS people do good research and have a lot of good sources to draw on. Note that the 1990-2020 nuclear weapon projections are just that, projections made by the DIA back in 1999. For what it's worth, I believe the estimate that Israel has

Re: [Vo]:Video of every known nuclear explosion conducted on the planet

France mounted a nuclear weapons program when it decided that it shouldn't rely on the US nuclear umbrella and established its 'force de frappe' policies. Israel detonated at least one atmospheric test off the coast of South Africa and in conjunction with the then apartheid/Boer government of

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR visit count goes over 2 million

Congrats, Jed. Good job, and a great service to us all. Lawry On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I updated the download and visit count for the first time in a few months: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads The number of visits exceeded 2,007,000. Total downloads stand

Re: [Vo]:Two arrested in Mallove murder

And what would be their motive? Suppressing CF? This requires that the 'bad guys' perceive CF as a serious threat. I have heard it argued that the 'energy companies' would wish to suppress CF, but much more likely is that they will if CF shows any promise commercially simply buy the

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

There is a lot of wisdom in Islam, Abd ul-Rahman. Many thanks for elaborating on the thought. Lawrence de Bivort On Apr 1, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 08:22 PM 3/31/2010, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com

Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick

Below-median IQ. I wonder what percentage have above or below average IQs. Does anyone know if IQ has a discovered genetic basis? What happens to IQ as a person grows older? On Mar 24, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: It's frightening to think that half of the people of the world

Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick

Irv Dardik is no quack. He has developed an approach to human health and performance that is based on extensive experience with the US Olympic effort, an inquiring and astute mind, and a considerable track record. Like many new things, it has its skeptics, but I've looked into it and it makes a

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Wozniak reports Prius problem

Wozniak also said that he thinks the problem is a software one, rather than a mechanical one. Cheers, Lawry On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is off topic but it is related to technology, and to the latest bruouhaha in the news. People have called into question the

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Wozniak reports Prius problem

LOL On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Also on this subject, perhaps it is time for Toyota to re-think their advertising slogan: Moving Forward - Jed

RE: [Vo]:DIA-08-0911-003 text

Many thanks, Jed. Would there be any utility to taking your text and adding some formatting to resemble the actual report? (I'm not suggesting that you must be the one to do it.) Lawry -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17,

RE: [Vo]:Heat is the principal signature of the reaction

Jed, a point of information, from this non-scientist: I understand that you are saying that heat, above all else, is the required product, and that any other products are of secondary importance when it comes to asserting that the effect has been produced. Separately, you are saying that

RE: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

Captain Crunch, and then there were tone voice whistlers, and blue, black and red boxes -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff

RE: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

I like these lines of thought, Abd ul-Rahman. Communities-of-practice are similar to what, as I understand it, you are proposing and thinking. A substantial amount of thinking and experience has now emerged around the communities-of-practice idea, and several such communities have received

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:09 AM To: debiv...@evolutionaryservices.org; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy At 06:40 PM 10/22/2009, Lawrence de Bivort wrote: I don't think books will do I what I believe needs to be done, no matter how well written -- because

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy At 11:03 AM 10/22/2009, Lawrence de Bivort wrote: What do you think? Does this make sense? Do you want me to say more about 'out-framing'? Or does the above give you an adequate sense of what I am talking about? I think

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

I was visiting a lab in Cambridge and met a senior, well-respected, and highly intelligent researcher who had at MIT unsuccessfully tried to replicate the original CF experiments. He was now quite dismissive of the possibility of CF advances and clearly wanted to keep distance between himself and

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

sense of what I am talking about? Lawrence _ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:55 AM To: debiv...@evolutionaryservices.org Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy Lawrence de Bivort wrote

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

Jed, and others, thanks for your responses. I wasn't clear. My apologies. This person does not rank his own early research as being either superior or definitive or adequate. Indeed, he agreed that his effort had been tentative and sandwiched in among other research, that it may well have been

RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy

- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:11 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Obama visiting MIT to discuss energy Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Like it or not, he IS a scientist, and quite prominently respected as one. And more than that, he

RE: [Vo]:Re: Has Vortex been Compromised?

LOL! I suppose the poor spelling and grammar may be another tip-off! -Original Message- From: j...@mail941c35.nsolutionszone.com [mailto:j...@mail941c35.nsolutionszone.com] On Behalf Of Taylor J. Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:58 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re:

RE: Mandatory Vaccinations? Re: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder Find a different one to take issue with, one to do with the current situation. I got some of it including that from: http://www.rense.com/general86/whdo.htm Though it has no more detail. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Lawrence de Bivort debiv

RE: Mandatory Vaccinations? Re: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

I love this stuff! Let's take one assertion at random: The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its' primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans. (Fact, 1985-ongoing) Please provide your primary

RE: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

This sounds like another run-of-the-mill scare-story to me. 1. There is no 'forced-vaccination' program being proposed. 2. The use of live virus in the making of vaccines is routine. Some vaccines, like the Salk polio vaccine, is made with attenuated live virus. These kinds of

RE: [Vo]:I'm back

Welcome back, Jed. I'm hoping for clarification, too, on the appropriateness of discussion regarding the political management of CF, vs the appropriately banned general political discussion. Lawrence -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday,

RE: [Vo]:Discussion/Debate: Creating [VoT] to handle OT discussions.

Or, one could run VoB by the rules you are proposing for VoT, and not run any list at all for trolls posters. Lawrence -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:24 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Discussion/Debate:

RE: [Vo]:Discussion/Debate: Creating [VoT] to handle OT discussions.

Agreed. If there is a general will to ban trolls from our discussions, why feel obligated to provide them with a list of their own? Clearly, there is a desire to have a list that is able to go beyond specific science and research discussions--and VoB, troll-less, could be readily used for this

[Vo]:Politics and 'politics'....

It seems to me that there are, for our purposes here, two very different politics. There is political commentary dealing with the world at large. Sometimes it is informed commentary, sometimes it is rant, and sometimes it is mere labeling and insult. And then there is the 'politics' of CF, or

RE: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear

Hi, Robin, Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as you point out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed in the process and, I would add, the non-trivial matter of economics. There is a reason we aren't making carbon-based materials out of CO2. And this same

RE: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear

LOL. Thanks, Horace. I was trying to figure it out. I like the idea: treat CO2 as an asset from which to produce a useful material, rather than as a pollutant to be released into the environment. That would present a double advantage. I'll go check the website. I hope it has some preliminary

RE: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear

Someday, I imagine, humankind will rue having burned oil for fuel, realizing that it was far more valuable as material feedstock for plastics than it is as fuel. It may be our children who come to realize this, and they may wonder why their parents and grandparents didn't realize it and why they

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan goes off the deep end! -- The psychology of bigotry

Interesting hypothesis. Some 'substitutes' for racial bigotries come readily to mind: anti-Muslim (from evangelical Christians and current American society); anti-Semitism (eg from the Nazis); anti-Palestinians (from Israelis). Perhaps anti-Liberals? The need to assert individual or group

RE: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

Solo sailors at sea, and especially in shipping lanes, learn to wake up every 20 minutes or so to take a look around the horizon. We do this whether we are sleeping during the night or day. It creates a sustainable rhythm without, it seems, impairing sailing adeptness, personal energy or boat

RE: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

There used to be US gov't funding some years ago, but it was discontinued. The fact that it received such funding is being used to bolster current claims to credibility. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:02 AM To:

RE: [Vo]:letter to Shirley Jackson

A comment and a query. Some of the phrases in the draft seems too defensive and resentful. For example, We have to self fund our experimental activities. Worse, there is also a well documented pattern of suppression of this technology. I will probably have to leave America in order to bring

RE: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

Stay safe. Might think about keeping a cell phone and whistle handy. Flashlight, too. We'll be thinking about you and your family. Lawrence -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:58 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in

RE: [Vo]:Wind energy breakthrough

Virtually ALL cost-accounting ignores secondary and tertiary effects of an operation, even though some of these might easily outweigh the cost elements of the operation itself. See, for a fuller treatment of this theme, ECOCIDE, on Russia's deadly failure to include environmental and toxic

RE: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

Greetings, all, Yes. It is human nature when things are complicated and much unseen to conclude that the situation must be caused by a cabal or a conspiracy. Usually, though, these perplexing and often frustrating human-based situations are the result of inadvertent patterns of interaction and

RE: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

Years ago, the EPA was given the mandate to carry out environmental impact assessments on large federal projects. It would have been prudent and forward looking for EPA some years ago to have studied the impacts of large-scale solar paneling. There was nothing -- except a lack of responsibility

FW: [Vo]:Ethanol not all bad?

The 'evil conspiracy of Big Oil' might seem less so if there were more transparency in their dealings with US government officials. Why do you suppose the participants in and gist of the conversations between Big Oil officials and Vice President Cheney were refused release to the public? Lawrence

RE: [Vo]:Ethanol not all bad?

The reality, I think, is that the business of governance has become too complex for the institutions and people responsible for legislation. Lobbyists feed into this complexity by suggesting that issues can be broken down into independent issues, and tackled one by one with little attention to

RE: [Vo]:Re: New ENERGY TIMES (tm) May 10, 2008 -- Issue #28

Greetings, all, Without anticipating Robin's response, it seems to me that Bush as a 'plant' in the quoted sense is right on target. Having observed US presidencies closely for several decades, I can say that I have never seen a US President so easily and egregiously manipulated by others, in

RE: [Vo]:More rejection!

Even in Saudi Arabia Bush is a lame duck. Hm...I wonder if the Saudi response has anything to do with Bush's lovefest with Israel??? -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:40 AM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:More rejection!

RE: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

Hmmm...would that be fast food? Lawry -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:39 AM To: vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre At the risk of stirring up another Hundred Years' War, let me opine that the British Taboo on

RE: [Vo]:letter to Tom Valone

Good morning, Your letter seems truncated in this posting. Can you post the rest of it? You mention 'peace negotiations' between Israelis and Palestinians, and suggest that it might be The Peace. If that proves to be the case, then indeed the laws of physics would have to be redefined. Cheers,

RE: [Vo]:Went to see Hillery - dropped her a note.

One fully-loaded railroad car can carry as much (about 100 tons) as four semi trucks. Between the cost of diesel (now around $4/gal) and the shortage of drivers, rail transport is now significantly cheaper for distance hauling. Lawry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

Richard, have you seen any estimates of what gold would be worth if it was not used by some as an investment strategy against currency fluctuations? That is, if it were only used as a common material in manufacturing and jewelry, what might it be worth? Lawrence _ From: R C

RE: [Vo]:Moon bases or free-floating space colonies

Hi, all. What I am thinking of are free-floating self-contained micro-gravity permanent space colonies for quite small numbers of people -- ten-to hundreds of thousands of people. These colonies could be produced in space on a modular basis, and, in the end, inexpensively. Once people started

RE: [Vo]:Moon bases

Robin, you are talking about planet-based society, right? I was thinking about space, and how to go there. Free floating space colonies should be able to grow their own food. All they have to do is park close enough to a star for photosynthesis and energy, and mine low-gravity asteroids for

RE: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit? Oragnization and performance

Good morning, everyone. Robin makes an astute observation: layers of hierarchy are also past of the problem. The best solution that we have been able to find is decentralization of large organizations, but decentralization with several sub-principles. 1. Each unit within the organization must

RE: [Vo]:Moon bases

Bah! Free-floating space stations and asteroid mining will free us from the tyranny of gravity and the competition for territory Lawrence -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

RE: [Vo]:Re: Christensen Innovator's Dilemma -- Iraq

I would propose that in any conflict involving human value and fears that there are always MORE than 'two sides' to a story, and that it is our cognitive propensity to think in terms of polarities or dualisms that contributes to the difficulties thinking clearly and the mistakes we make. The

RE: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

Hi, Jones, You are right, we don't generally disagree, and I would add a couple of comments: 1. Though Ford and GM are 'giant' and -- yes -- have or had the resources needed to reorient themselves to the changing nature of the world and American automotive markets, they failed utterly to do so,

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium Lawrence de Bivort wrote: What would inhibit the cold fusion 'community' from indeed organizing itself along these or comparable lines? Actually, Bill Collis is probably doing the best anyone could over at ISCMNS: http

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

Jed, interesting. I have been focusing on future organizational aspects of cold fusion. What would inhibit the cold fusion 'community' from indeed organizing itself along these or comparable lines? Cheers, Lawrence -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: [Vo]:Tooo obvious for Detroit?

Mike, many thanks for this first-hand account of the practical environments in which manufacturing takes place. One of my 'hats' is that of an organizational performance specialist and I can say that your description rings absolutely true. When embedded in complex systems, especially ones that

RE: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

obvious for Detroit? --- Lawrence de Bivort wrote: My sense is that everyone does the best they can - all the time. It is perhaps the greatest tragedy of mankind that we can see better ways of doing things... One the contrary, Lawrence, I strongly believe that this is absolutely wrong... so wrong

RE: [Vo]:Re: Compressed air car

: Lawrence de Bivort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Compressed air car How do I find my way to the archives?

RE: [Vo]:Re: Compressed air car

must admit that I am a bit surprised that this trick can be so efficient that it yields 120 miles per gallon of fuel, if this is for real the guy must have put his finger on the most efficient way to turn combustion energy into mechanical energy! Michel - Original Message - From: Lawrence de

RE: [Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

thermal expansion or shrinking produce a significant force BTW? How would one go about calculating this? Michel - Original Message - From: Lawrence de Bivort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat

RE: [Vo]:Re: Sez Here, Entire U.S. Could Blow Up At Any Moment

]:Re: Sez Here, Entire U.S. Could Blow Up At Any Moment LOL :) Are you of French ascendance as your name suggests BTW? Michel - Original Message - From: Lawrence de Bivort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nick Palmer' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:40 PM

[Vo]:Compressed air car

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7241909.stm An engineer has promised that within a year he will start selling a car that runs on compressed air, producing no emissions at all in town. The OneCAT will be a five-seater with a glass fibre body, weighing just 350kg and could cost

RE: [Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

But what use might this device be? Random 'walks' through the ocean, which seems to be what it is used for, but beyond that? With only one knot of speed, no matter how it was guided, the thing if caught in the Gulf Stream in Florida it would end up off the coast of Portugal before its batteries

RE: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

Maybe someone will invent a 'stupid-people' virus and do us all a favor. -Original Message- From: Rhong Dhong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely --- Robin van Spaandonk

RE: [Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

Here is a better explanation of how the glider works, from the Science Notebook of today's the Washington Post: Monday, February 11, 2008; Page A05 Motorless Sub Keeps Going Scientists seeking to gather temperature, salinity and other data from the oceans have long had two choices: steam out to

RE: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

Having looked at quite a few 'terrorist threat' scenarios from technical and political PoVs, my sense is that the 'single most serious threat to the national security of the United States' is the election of another US president who is both out of touch with international realities and susceptible

[Vo]:Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7234544.stm The heat differentials expand or constrict wax, which provides energy for propulsion. Battery power needed to sensors and communications. Lawrence

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Agreed, Jed. We are, as a species, entering an age of globalized systems, and I think tackling them will require a new set of linguistic skills. The language we use in politics and policy today is still based on national models of human organization -- one might almost say, tribal. My guess is

RE: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

It would be quite a mistake to assume that terrorists are likely to be Muslim, or that Muslims are likely to be terrorists. It is true that this is what many Americans believe, and that they have been urged on in this misimpression by some who wish Muslims poorly, so let us be doubly vigilant to

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Gore The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters. Harry On 28/1/2008 6:06 PM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Agreed, Jed. We are, as a species, entering an age of globalized systems, and I think tackling them will require a new set of linguistic skills. The language we use

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large portions of the Sahara. Lawrence -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse'

RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:23 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee - Original Message - From: Lawrence de Bivort [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:32 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from

RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:42 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Cool, if he means MY god! Not sure I'd trust his, whoever he is referring I think he means the Koran. Do you have

RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

Cool, if he means MY god! Not sure I'd trust his, whoever he is referring to. Do you have a source, Jed? Lawrence -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:12 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from

RE: [Vo]:The OC Magnetic Perpetual Motion Machine

Does the force of a magnet 'run down' as it is used? That is, does it lose internal alignment as a result of its countering interaction with other magnetic bodies? Lawry -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:08 PM To:

RE: [VO]: OT: New cities of the world

The children of Joseph, Judah and Esau Can you say more about what you mean, Richard? Cheers, Lawry _ From: R.C.Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:50 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [VO]: OT: New cities of the world Howdy Vorts,

RE: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

There have been many studies of the relationship between cultural attributes and economic or technological 'progress.' I think several things can be said about this that these studies tend to miss: 1. As I see it, 'Progress' is itself a culturally defined notion. What seems like progress

RE: [Vo]: OT: Poetic N Justice

Agreed. Also salient is the reality that different groups within 'racial' categories seem to exhibit quite different general levels of societal 'intelligence'. Having said that, we are left with the task of developing a metric of societal intelligence, and then assessing the actual performance of

RE: [VO]: Economic models

Eric Beinhocker examines a new model for economics in THE ORIGIN OF WEALTH: The Radical Remaking of Economics and What It Means for Business and Society. Pretty provocative and it may answer Richard's criterion. Good weekend, all. image001.gif