- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 19.12.2011 03:03
Betreff: [Vo]:Private information about Rossi was the Ampernergo tests
described by McKubre
Here is a key issue. Rossi's personality is an open book thanks to
You write too much. A lot of citations and it is unclear in which context there
where made.
A citation from Westinghouse, who where a competitor.
(If this citation was about AC, then Westinghouse was correct. Not anything
that Edison did or propagated, was a success)
I think your other
Am 19.12.2011 15:43, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Susanna Gippsusan.g...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we have something else excepts a bunch of words ?
Yes, data.
Do you know who they are ?
Yes, I said I did. Please read my message more carefully.
Same what Allan Sterling says about the Penderev
Am 18.12.2011 05:17, schrieb Sean True:
If Dr. Miley is in need of low thousands of dollars to get to a breakthrough,
is there a possibility of using kickstarter.com to raise the money? I'd kick in
a thousand dollar pledge if Jed said it would get the good doctor over the hump.
Miley is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com, peter.heck...@arcor.de
Datum: 16.12.2011 00:26
Betreff: [Vo]:Possible Proof of Peter's theory of gravity and New Matter Accrual
Peter, your thoughts about matter sucking ZPE and
LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible?
If we see physics as a statistical phenomenom, then energy is another
word for probability.
So, Low Energy reactions are low probability reactions - reactions that
dont happen frequently ;-)
It is therefore improbable to get energy out of
Am 16.12.2011 21:59, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc
It is interesting and looks very convincing.
However, it is unclear to me how performant this is.
For example they measure neutrons. So far I know the neutrons from
cosmic rays are 20 neutrons /(cm^2*s)
Am 14.12.2011 21:05, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charly Sistovaris
charlysi...@gmail.comwrote:
That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North.
You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome.
I simply copied the information given by
Am 15.12.2011 19:12, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Am 14.12.2011 21:05, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charly Sistovaris
charlysi...@gmail.comwrote:
That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North.
You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome.
I
Am 15.12.2011 19:50, schrieb Alan J Fletcher:
At 10:32 AM 12/15/2011, Peter Heckert wrote:
The mechanism is constructed in such a way that any hard x-rays
so far, so good ...
or external gamma measurements are detected and it will trigger.
How can you detect an EXTERNAL gamma measurement
Hi,
my thesis is that matter sucks up energy and this is the reason for gravity.
I dont know in which frequency range this happens, but I think matter
sucks up zeropoint energy and converts it to matter.
There was a similar theory that was discussed by Clerk Maxwell and
Boltzmann and others.
Lets assume we play in lottery. Sometimes we win, mostly we dont win.
Is this a scientific proof that lottery delivers excess money?
No, it is not. I think this is clear to everybody, no explanation is necessary.
Of course, only those people who have won, report.
Those, who have lost, dont
- Original Nachricht
Von: peter.heck...@arcor.de
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 14.12.2011 12:06
Betreff: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.
Lets assume we play in lottery. Sometimes we win, mostly we dont win.
Is this a scientific proof that
Bushnell had the vision to make Mars habitable. Ok, thats an utopy.
But can make deserts green and siberia habitable.
Its unclear what this does to global climate.
It can solve the water problems in far east and israel and can prevent wars for
oil.
But this all must be seen with care. Each new
Am 13.12.2011 23:21, schrieb ecat builder:
Hi All,
Just a brief update on the replication attempt by Chan. Chan is an
anonymous poster who claims to have replicated the Rossi reaction
using powders on two builder sites, ecatbuilder.com and buildecat.com.
He uses an RFG connected to a induction
- Original Nachricht
Von: mix...@bigpond.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 14.12.2011 07:22
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: check out this 10,000 volt single cell battery near end
of lecture
In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:30:30
-0500
(EST):
- Original Nachricht
Von: Moab Moab moab2...@googlemail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 13.12.2011 21:51
Betreff: [VO]: ENEA endorses the phenomenon
my first post ...
Mary Yugo wrote
As Carl Sagan was fond of pointing out, the more extreme the claim, the
Allan Sterling has an interesting article about it:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026116_energy_free_population.html
The article is very long and I citate only the end.
citation:
Handing this over to human beings now would be like giving a child a set
of big red buttons for launching nuclear
Am 12.12.2011 23:16, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Allan Sterling has an interesting article about it:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026116_energy_free_population.html
Sorry, I was in error, this article is not by Sterlin Allan. I found it
linked, when searching for his religious articles.
But I think
So far I have read, they got strong evidence, but not this high evidence that
is needed for such a fundamental discovery.
They are not like Rossi. They will test it again and again and doubt and harden
it by all possible methods, before they confirm it.
Scientific evidence is yet not reached.
There are scientists that report much better results:
http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/204israel.html
citation:
- Run #64b gave 1500% excess heat over a duration of 80 hours with a
total excess energy of 4.6 Megajoules
So, why do they all stare at Rossi and his poor COP and
Am 11.12.2011 15:15, schrieb Robert Lynn:
The key is the brass manifold - the heat exchanger is unimportant. But I
have not seen the Brass manifold anywhere on their website.
I dont think the heatexchanger is unimportant.
I got the heater applications handbook from SWEPS website.
Am 11.12.2011 16:49, schrieb David Roberson:
The exchanger did work in the horizontal position. All it has to do is to
condense and cool the vapor/water mixture that enters into the primary. The
temperature of the exiting liquid was low enough and that is proof that the
device transferred
Am 11.12.2011 17:12, schrieb David Roberson:
Peter, Mats Lewan measured the output water temperature at two points in time
and it was quite low. Review his report. What evidence do you have that the
heat exchanger did not transfer the heat?
I did not say that.
Of course it transferred the
I downloaded an image from Ny Teknik and enhanced contrast and
brightness and sharpened it, to make the thermoelement visible:
http://hphsite.de/vortex/thermoelement.jpg
Yes, I do now think, the heat exchanger should do it in the horizontal
orientation.
I tested this as follows:
I downloaded and installed the heatexchanger calculation software from
SWEP.
It is unregistered and in demo mode. Registering is free bust must be
approved, so I have none.
In this
magnitudes will give similar results. Why should I
repeat it? The result is plausible.
Only an experiment with the real thing could bring new findings, but i
doubt it.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de]
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:23 PM
Am 11.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint:
Peter:
There's a bit of a language barrier here...
I was not suggesting that you actually repeat the analysis, or do something a
little different... but I think most readers will understand my point.
I dont understand your point.
If I could
Am 09.12.2011 22:11, schrieb Horace Heffner:
Photos are from Alan Fletcher's site, the page with the nifty FEA
simulations:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php
If air bubbles are collected at the blue side, this would produce rather
large errors in thermal coupling:
Am 10.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Colin Hercus:
Did you see in the specs that the heat exchanger should be mounted
vertically when used for phase change. Having it horizontal should reduce
effectiveness and err in Rossi's favour
Yes. It must be vertical.
But I think the error should be in Rossi's
Am 10.12.2011 17:51, schrieb Mary Yugo:
I wish someone had taken the considerable trouble to duplicate Rossi's
small E-cat and Ottoman (Oct 6) experiments. By this, I mean to make
devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the experimental
results KE and Lewan got could be
Am 10.12.2011 22:46, schrieb Robert Leguillon:
But the E class is listed specifically as a single-phase heat exchanger. Does
it double as a condenser?
http://www.swep.net/index.php?tpl=products-rangeslang=enid=352
I dont know, if this matters. Possibly it has only to do withthe
pressure. It
Am 10.12.2011 23:06, schrieb Alan Fletcher:
With the 1:40 primary:secondary flows there's most likely not a problem. And
any problems (steam not condensed) would give a lower calculated power (as
pointed out, in Rossi's -- ie less likely fake-- favour.)
The question is, if it works in
Am 10.12.2011 23:03, schrieb Alan Fletcher:
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,801836,00.html
(google translate is tolerable)
Not TOO bad ... of course, they call a Plasma Physicist at Max Planck Institute to say
the mandatory defies the laws of physics.
This will reach many
Am 11.12.2011 00:04, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
By this, I mean to make
devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the
experimental
results KE and Lewan got could be obtained by mismeasurement rather than
LENR heat production.
Possibly
Am 11.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
You should know, I have said it can be done with a secret wireless heater
switch and/or with a vacuum sucking out water.
I suggest you prove that. Build something with wires large enough to
produce this
Am 11.12.2011 01:46, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
This is silly. There was a clamp on amp meter on the mains cord and on
the heater wires going into the E-Cat. Power consumption was recorded
during the self power run. Refer to the Higgins data. Are you
suggesting that during the self powering
Am 11.12.2011 01:57, schrieb David Roberson:
Peter, don't you think your statement is a little extreme? I suspect you
should have more evidence before you condemn everyone who believes in this
field?
Now, I am not a fanatic believer, but often I tend to believe, it should
be possible.
I dont
Hi,
Where I work: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/AtWork.jpg
Measuring Arrangement: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/Overview.jpg
Macro detail - tape: http://hphsite.de/Vortex/Tape.jpg
(It is worth to note, that a small air gap or spurious glassfiber
isolation material had the same effect as the tape.)
The
Am 09.12.2011 18:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
The thermoelement on the tape has a bad contact to the metal and measures
preferrably the air temperature.
This is not a valid test. You have to cover up the thermocouples. Rossi did
not leave them open to
Am 09.12.2011 19:40, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Heckert can also test for this with some insulation. - Jed
Sorry, its only possible when the boss is not around ;-)
We are rather busy now, at end of year many customers must use up their
budget, if they dont do this they get less next year...
I think it is not necessary to test something that is known and expected from
theory and experience.
If there is no thermal flow, then there are no temperature differences, this is
known from physics.
So especially when the measurment location is wrapped with thermal isolation a
thermoelement
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.12.2011 15:59
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
It is necessary to think about unexpected effects:
It is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.12.2011 14:29
Betreff: [Vo]:Article - Quantum Entanglement Allows Diamonds to Communicate
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.12.2011 15:59
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
It is necessary to think about unexpected effects:
It is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 08.12.2011 17:00
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
How can you say this is incorrect? Do you know everything,
Am 08.12.2011 17:20, schrieb Robert Leguillon:
Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple for two reasons:
1) the secondary flow rate was much higher than the primary, moving the
equilibrium point closer to the hot side
2) the primary flow rate is unknown, and quite possible variable, moving the
Am 08.12.2011 19:49, schrieb David Roberson:
Is the entanglement robust enough to survive a long shaky trip? I recall
reading that it is not easy to keep the effect for a long time.
The entanglement of macroscopic objects is probably not stable enough.
It is possible to slow down entangled
Am 08.12.2011 20:13, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Thermal insulation can be used to avoid heat loss, but because the absolute
temperature was not much above ambient, not much loss is expected. Anyway,
thermal isolation is cheap and would eliminate the
Am 08.12.2011 20:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed's well intentioned experiments won't help either unless he gets
himself a heat exchanger or properly simulates it with a nice heavy
steam-heated copper . . .
My tests were rudimentary. But in my opinion,
Am 08.12.2011 20:53, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If there is an air gap of 0.1mm between metal and thermoelement, then it is
not nonsense.
I doubt that. I would like to see you prove it. I do not think this would
cause even a 0.1°C difference.
Can you
Am 08.12.2011 21:31, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Can you suggest a way to deliberately introduce such a small gap? Perhaps
with a thin piece of paper instead of an air gap?
A thin piece of plastics. This is also good for electrical isolation.
Like
Jed, seriously:
If you say, Rossis thermomeasurements are fine, does this mean that you
dont see the possibility for easy and cheap improvements?
All points that are discussed here can be eliminated by better
thermoelement placement almost without efforts and costs.
If somebody does not
Am 08.12.2011 22:17, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
If somebody does not admit this, then he must be a blind mouse.
I not only admitted it, I emphasized it in my report. However, these
problems -- bad as they are -- do not negate the findings.
They do negate the findings. To prove a billion dollar
Am 08.12.2011 22:49, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
So what are you saying? Is there a problem with a 0.1 mm gap, or is there
not? Are you asking me to waste my time doing a test that will not prove
anything?
I have never asked you to do this. It was your
Jed, if I find the time tomorrow during work, I do the test myself.
This is better. I fear your test will not be correct.
I will use a resistor in an aluminium housing as a heat source and two
thermoelements and two instruments.
One thermocouple will be in close metallic contact to the resistor
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 09.12.2011 03:54
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Yo: Peter Heckert! Is a 0.1 mm gap a problem or not?
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
One thermocouple will be in close metallic contact to the resistor and the
other
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 07.12.2011 08:36
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:[Rossi] University RD has gone away?
Rossi has said the 1st customer is a US military research contractor and
that the first plant is
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 07.12.2011 08:57
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:[Rossi] University RD has gone away?
It is about which nation controls LENR as it has the capability to
reshape the world. As for living
Probably Rossi used some duct tape to repair the reactor. This makes Gamma rays
;-)
Honestly, after all was happened, better: NOT happened, such a singular
observation is without worth.
Of course there might be a strange mechanism producing gamma rays, possibly a
welding apparatus or another
- Original Nachricht
Von: Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 07.12.2011 14:48
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Celani: gamma spike during ignition of Rossi reactor
Francesco Celani is a professor at the Italian National Institute of
Nuclear Physics. He
Am 07.12.2011 16:03, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
No gamma radiation was measured over background.
If inside the reactor there was a 10kW gamma source, with a hole in
shielding, everybody had died.
All these data is inside the Bianchini report, in January.
I do not think that
screen was there. This should
flash.
But wait! Where not fluorescent lamps there? What do these? Shouldnt
they flash?
How does a laptop react to gamma bursts that can kill?
best regards,
Peter
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
Am 07.12.2011 16:03
- Original Nachricht
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 05.12.2011 02:39
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Speaking of MAHG
The 15 kHz frequency is in the low ultrasonic range, and has been seen in a
number of claimed gainful (or very efficient) devices:
Am 05.12.2011 19:50, schrieb Robert Lynn:
It is clearly demonstrable that there exist mechanisms (of unknown type) in
room temperature condensed matter to create at least 10's of keV, check out
the rather fascinating following video:
Am 05.12.2011 21:44, schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:
Hi,
The (private?) Swiss company Glencore has acquired all the shares of the largest
Australian Nickel producer Minara.
This is not a problem. The e-cat does not use much nickel. We can
extract it from Euro coins or from others.
They contain
Am 05.12.2011 22:03, schrieb Alain dit le Cycliste:
not so false.
according to Rossi's E-cat figures, it would consume 25% of annual Ni
production to produce the annual energy.
in my opinion, according to defkalion info, the powder seems simple.
the reactor and the H bottle seems the most
According to the report of Kullander Essen Rossi has given to them a
sample of unused Nickel powder and a sample of used powder.
It was often said, they found only natural isotope distribution in the
used powder.
I could not find reports about the new powder.
Rossi has multiply claimed that
Am 05.12.2011 22:56, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote:
Have you read nothing of how psychics operate?
Actually, I have read a lot about that, possibly more than Yugo has. I have
also read about stage magicians. In both cases their methods could not
begin to fool
Am 05.12.2011 23:25, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert wrote:
Watch this magician: http://youtu.be/VsYDRRGmpXU
At 6:00 he makes steam and he allows more access than Rossi ;-)
His Japanese is pretty good.
Do you seriously think that a chemist examining that cup would not
find the source
Am 04.12.2011 05:07, schrieb Horace Heffner:
That is because Bill did not call them water thread experiments. My
mistake, and bad memory. The above wasser.html reference was indeed
about water bridge experiments, not Bill Beaty's air thread
experiments, which are a very different thing -
Am 04.12.2011 08:04, schrieb Alain dit le Cycliste:
after defkalion who say they will install a webcam to show
an hyperion working
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=587
it seems that rossi agree too for a 24x7 show
Am 04.12.2011 06:56, schrieb Alain dit le Cycliste:
I've look a gain, and I'm still suspect about using ZPE, because ZPE is
only an energy that you cannot use to go below... by definition.
There are new reports that photons where extracted from ZPE:
Am 04.12.2011 13:40, schrieb Horace Heffner:
I am familiar with air ions. The phenomenon measured by Bill Beaty in
the presence of much water vapor, and having nano-amp current, I think
is not made of non-polarized air molecules, but of a contiguous string
of polarized molecules. Here is
Am 04.12.2011 14:30, schrieb Horace Heffner:
Some relevant quotes of interest from Bill Beaty at:
http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html
The threads can survive in a zero-field region. I made a crude
thread gun and passed a thread through an accelerator ring composed
of an aluminum
Am 04.12.2011 21:57, schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:
In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:36:18 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
The other problem is, where to get deuterium in pressurized bottles ;-)
[snip]
That one isn't really a problem. Electrolysis can easily produce high gas
- Original Nachricht
Von: mix...@bigpond.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 05.12.2011 03:31
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
BTW exactly which reactions are you looking for, and do you expect them to
be
brought about by
Am 03.12.2011 22:14, schrieb Harry Veeder:
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I believe there is a vacuum for these reasons:
1) I placed a charged needle 1-2 cm above a water surface. The air blow
makes a sharp, mm deep and mm wide hole into the water
Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner:
Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment
Yes, this experiment was made by others too and published in science
journals.
It must be seen that a strong current flows
Am 03.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Horace Heffner:
Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads:
http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvLUL8f4LU
Am 03.12.2011 23:51, schrieb Horace Heffner:
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote:
Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner:
Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment
Yes, this experiment was made
Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert:
I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment.
This needs more current.
I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should
deliver about 100µA.
Its a TV split diode flyback transformer driven by a selfbuild
Am 04.12.2011 00:29, schrieb Horace Heffner:
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote:
Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert:
I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment.
This needs more current.
I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week
Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment:
http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No
Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind.
It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to
thermographic measurements and heavy water experiments.
Very interesting are the Schlieren
Am 04.12.2011 01:16, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment:
http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No
Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind.
It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to
thermographic measurements and heavy water
Am 04.12.2011 01:41, schrieb Horace Heffner:
This is about the water bridge experiment, not Bill Beaty's water
thread experiments.
His fine threads extended multiple times the length of the water
bridge, and were sustained indefinitely, with orders of magnitude less
current. Read the
minimum COP is 25 so far I remember.
Details are here:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf
This is now on their website under products.
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
An:
Am 30.11.2011 16:52, schrieb Mary Yugo:
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure
sensor! I kid you not:
http://i.imgur.com/X8AZQ.jpg
Remembers me of good old Amiga which had a BEER line connected to the
processor.
Am 29.11.2011 18:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
attachment: ColdFusion3.jpeg
Am 30.11.2011 22:51, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
Hi Peter
If this is true they are gangsters and Rossi has my full support.
And also at University of Siena they have gangsters, if this is true.
This doesnt shed a good light on their previous work for Piantelli.
Possibly they are all gangsters, and this all is a horrible soap opera.
Could be, nothing is
If it is true, then it is a case of scientific fraud and industrial spionage.
If its untrue and they all collaborate behind the scenes, then ist is a
gigantic staged investment fraud.
In both cases it is a case for Interpol.
For now I think they are all gangsters working together behind the
I have no problems with that was done.
I have problems with additional tests that where not done.
Kullander Essen's trip was payed by Rossi and they where friendly treated by
the italian scientists.
So they dont believe or say there was fraud and this is understandable.
But they do admit, they
- Original Nachricht
Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 14:11
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
We don't know how much of Piantelli's patents Rossi used anyway. Send both
to jail? :)
As long as he
I am rather sure there is no radiation to measure and so there is no spectrum
to measure and there is nothing to steal.
They play a collaborative soap opera behind the scenes, where they all win
investors.
Everybody who has money invested in Piantelli, Defkalion or Rossi's business
should go
Am 29.11.2011 18:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Here's another one to load up:
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Am 29.11.2011 20:38, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Piantelli has loads of academic credibility. He is been supported for
many years by an Italian automobile manufacturer. I wish I could
recall which one.
So far I have read this was Fiat Avio SpA, which was Fiat's aviation
business. They sold it some
Am 29.11.2011 21:05, schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:50:06 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
See (in Japanese):
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/2029-OYT1T00943.htm
Summary:
Sales will begin January 30, 2012. Minimum sales price will be
- Original Nachricht
Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 28.11.2011 09:15
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd D
system in 1991
PeterH,
as far I remember the Liaw et al paper is published in the
I think, this says all.
This guy is a professional electrochemist and without doubt he has 1000fold
more possibilities than I.
If he gave up, he has doubts himself.
If there is a serious chance for success others should try it, who have a
laboratory.
Patents dont hinder scientific research and
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