On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
I don't see your point. I used to do this test with a hose
producing 75 kW at Hydrodynamics Inc. It worked fine. The results
were close to the expected amount from that heater.
If that was a
Hallo!
I made simple steam sparging experiment by measuring the steam quality
and enthalpy of my Espresso machine's steam wand (for making
capuchino).
– 200ml cool water (11°C) was measured into tea cup.
– Steam was sparged into mug for 32 seconds and there was not observed
splattering or
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Horace wrote: «I would note that steam sparging can have large errors due
to steam escaping, due to variability in measuring the temperature decline
curve, due to variations in the calorimetry constant with temperature, and
due to imperfect
Am 01.09.2011 20:12, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
mailto:jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Horace wrote: «I would note that steam sparging can have large
errors due to steam escaping, due to variability in measuring the
temperature decline curve, due to
On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Hallo!
I made simple steam sparging experiment by measuring the steam quality
and enthalpy of my Espresso machine's steam wand (for making
capuchino).
– 200ml cool water (11°C) was measured into tea cup.
– Steam was sparged into mug for 32
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
I take it this kind of discussion is all academic now NASA is involved.
Assuming they *are* involved. I have a friend in Huntsville who is
checking this out. She is quite connected.
T
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
This test shows your true colors. It indicates that you actually expect the
steam power to be on the order of 100 watts, not 10,000 watts or even 1,000
watts. If you put a wand issuing 10,000 watts steam power into the bucket
you will get a notion
On Sep 1, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I don't see your point. I used to do this test with a hose
producing 75 kW at Hydrodynamics Inc. It worked fine. The results
were close to the expected amount from that heater.
If that was a Griggs device I wonder if your memory might be
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
I don't see your point. I used to do this test with a hose producing 75 kW
at Hydrodynamics Inc. It worked fine. The results were close to the expected
amount from that heater.
If that was a Griggs device I wonder if your memory might be failing
2011/9/2 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
This test shows your true colors. It indicates that you actually expect
the steam power to be on the order of 100 watts, not 10,000 watts or even
1,000 watts. If you put a wand issuing 10,000 watts
Originally posted by Angela Kemmler:
The Licence and Technology Transfer Agreement (The LTTA) contains a mile
stone payment arrangement. According to said arrangement, DGT's release of
the first payment to EFA is pending on that EFA meet several technical
requirements. As anticipated in the
On Aug 20, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
It is you who does not get it. Investing in a free energy scheme
which supposedly produces excess or free heat is not sensible
without expert independent calorimetry being applied which
Someone (Jed or Horace?) wrote:
* If the results indeed were obtained and were positive and useful it is
strange that Defkalion did not pay up according to its contract.
It would not surprise me that positive results could be exactly *why* they
did not pay up !
DGT is facing the
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
If the results indeed were obtained and were positive and useful it is
strange that Defkalion did not pay up according to its contract.
Rossi said repeatedly that he will only be paid after he delivers the 1 MW
reactor. He has not delivered it, so
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
ethics can take a back seat to
capitalism
Capitalism always trumps ethics. Ask the Donald.
T
On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
If the results indeed were obtained and were positive and useful it
is strange that Defkalion did not pay up according to its contract.
Rossi said repeatedly that he will only be paid after he
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
OK, maybe you are right about the precise phrase did not pay, though I
feel I have read that phrase in this regard somewhere.
I think the issue stems from this thread:
and if financial means some other guys have promised me to pay more than
you ?
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
wrote:
OK, maybe you are right about the precise phrase did not pay,
On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Horace Heffner
hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
OK, maybe you are right about the precise phrase did not pay,
though I
feel I have read that phrase in this regard somewhere.
I think the issue stems from
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
I guess I am merely reviewing information with which others are most
familiar. I have been unable to read posts for a number of weeks, so am
catching up here.
Nothing wrong with your mental processes, Horace.
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
It is you who does not get it. Investing in a free energy scheme which
supposedly produces excess or free heat is not sensible without expert
independent calorimetry being applied which determines a total energy
balance for critical demonstration
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
I stumbled upon in the internet a very simple method for doing
extremely accurate (up to two or three significant digits, depending
on insulation) calorimetric analysis for any water boiler. Method is
simple and all measurements are accurate:
–
Can you try to pass along this info to Dr. Rossi and/or one of the V.V.H.L.
(very very high level) scientist that are going to test the One Megawatt
Huge Cat ?
2011/8/19 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
Hallo,
I stumbled upon in the internet a very simple method for doing
extremely
DearJouni,
Your method was already suggested by Jed and other colleagues- it is the
batch method.
I have suggested a continuous one:see please
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/05/call-for-perfect-e-cat-experiment.html
I have sent it both to Rossi and Levi who have ignored it-they don't
I still think ice calorimetry I suggested last January is a better
idea, because it is based on first principles, is very accurate, and
can be used throughout an experiment to achieve the very essential
*total energy balance*, vs just a snapshot power measurement, which
can be very
*Serious LENR research* is that made by Piantelli and
this stays irrespective from Rossi's results.
Rossi's idea to make a perfect experiment with 330 combined E cats instead
of 3, 33, 330 perfect experiments
with individual E-cats is kind of techno-fiction (to use an euphemism)
Peter
On Fri,
Susan, I am sure that Jed Rothwell is one of the VVHL-scientist, who
will be present at 1MW demonstration. Rossi also promised that single
self-sustaining E-Cat module is tested, for accurate calorimetric
analysis.
–Jouni
2011/8/19 Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com:
Can you try to pass along
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Susan, I am sure that Jed Rothwell is one of the VVHL-scientist, who
will be present at 1MW demonstration.
I don't think Jed even owns a white lab coat.
T
He may not have a white lab coat, but he probably has a straight jacket or
two lying around! :-)
-M
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From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
He may not have a white lab coat, but he probably has a straight jacket or
two lying around! :-)
For formal wear.
T
Ad hominem, personal attack, is a logical fallacy, and a sure sign of
a lost argument, essentially a capitulation. It is even worse than
an appeal to authority in lieu of argument based on facts when such
is available.
On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/8/19
On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
No worry, if there is any invested money into E-Cat and it is a fraud,
then any investor may request full monetary compensation with
interest. Investors are carefully protected by law and any misleading
information (that can be shown as such
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