[WAMUG] SUBSCRIPTIONS 2023

[Julie Bedford via WAMUG]

Hi

Just paid my $20.00 for the 2023 subscription.

Many thanks

Julie Bedford  (Underwood)
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[WAMUG] ANNUAL SUBS

[Julie Bedford]

Hi

Just paid my annual $20 subscription - name:  Julie Underwood

Many thanks

Jewels

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Re: [WAMUG} Christmas Present to you

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Peter, will do

Jewels


> On 29 Dec 2021, at 10:10 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> Just go to http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ on our ancient and creaking web site 
> for the banking and joining details
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2021, at 7:48 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> Yes I would like to continue but just need to make sure I have the correct 
>> bank details
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>>> On 28 Dec 2021, at 9:39 am, kal...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 27 Dec 2021, at 5:35 pm, Maureen Smith  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> I would like to rejoin WAMUG and need info on how to go about it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Kevin Lock
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> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: [WAMUG} 2012 time capsule - replacement suggestions

[Julie Bedford]

Thought I would add this one to the story.  I purchased my Time Capsule a few 
years back, but didn’t installed it for at least a year, the idea was to add it 
onto my second computer.  When at last I got it installed, it never worked.  I 
took it back to the reseller, who opened it up to find a dead hard drive, but 
the interesting thing was it was covered in dust and the date on the hard drive 
was about 6 years older than the Time Capsule itself.  One can only imagine !!  
Of course, it was out of warranty and had to pay the price.

Jewels


> On 29 Dec 2021, at 9:43 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> The hard drive on my Time Capsule died about 18 months ago, but the TC is 
> still working fine as a WiFi hub. I was using the hard drive as my Time 
> Machine disk. I have since replaced it with a 5Gb external USB Drive, but the 
> WiFi is working as well as ever.
> 
> The heat over the past few days did have an effect on my iMac though - 
> yesterday morning iStat Menus told me the CPU was running at 95°C, which 
> explained why the mouse had a mind of its own and very few Safari extensions 
> were working properly, and I couldn’t connect to my Bluetooth headphones. 
> Turned it all off overnight  and everything is back to a normal 50-60°C 
> today. Could have cooked bacon with it yesterday.
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2021, at 4:13 pm, Adam Lippiatt > > wrote:
>> 
>> For what it is worth, I just bought a second hand airport extreme on ebay 
>> and I love the ease of setup.  I already have an older time capsule whose 
>> hard disk is still spinning away for all of these years.  
>>> On 28 Dec 2021, at 11:44 am, gary dorn mailto:gd...@me.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello WAMUG
>>> 
>>> The heat over the last few days seems to have killed our 2012 Time Capsule, 
>>> which we use to have a home Wifi network to connect all our devices too - 
>>> phones, apple tv, macbook air and a printer. this time capsule was 
>>> connected to a SouthernPhone wifi router for internet access.
>>> 
>>> symptom is  - no light (can hear and feel hardisk spinning)
>>> no home network connections via Wifi
>>> 
>>> is there suggested replacement for this. 
>>> 
>>> We previously just used an Airport base station - which I have now 
>>> reconnected to use in the mean time - but it tends to be a bit flaky and 
>>> slow.
>>> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
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Re: [WAMUG} Christmas Present to you

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Kevin,

Yes I would like to continue but just need to make sure I have the correct bank 
details

Thanks

Julie

> On 28 Dec 2021, at 9:39 am, kal...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2021, at 5:35 pm, Maureen Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> I would like to rejoin WAMUG and need info on how to go about it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin Lock
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Re: [WAMUG} 2012 time capsule - replacement suggestions

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Gary

Last year I had my time capsule replaced with a refurbished one.  Check with 
the Mac shop in Joondalup.
If the hard drive is faulty, you can always replace this yourself.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Dec 2021, at 11:44 am, gary dorn  wrote:
> 
> hello WAMUG
> 
> The heat over the last few days seems to have killed our 2012 Time Capsule, 
> which we use to have a home Wifi network to connect all our devices too - 
> phones, apple tv, macbook air and a printer. this time capsule was connected 
> to a SouthernPhone wifi router for internet access.
> 
> symptom is  - no light (can hear and feel hardisk spinning)
>   no home network connections via Wifi
> 
> is there suggested replacement for this. 
> 
> We previously just used an Airport base station - which I have now 
> reconnected to use in the mean time - but it tends to be a bit flaky and slow.
> 
> I saw Apple have home Kit system 
>  
> https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HPN22LL/A/linksys-velop-ax4200-wifi-6-mesh-system?fnode=85ccddd4a297e04cea55115e35afbc6a215989f0b9fbf2a317b03a5aae900f07da1ac826355612620b2483e6880af8b30fa6d65b9d180484b02d7811e17eb610b8538a8c308dff082b1f417fadae8f285705e3f4156c9abde468af32b7194cb3
>  
> 
> 
> but it seems to be incompatible with our old hardware/devices.
> 
> thanks
> Gary Dorn
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Re: [WAMUG} Are You Receiving??

[Julie Bedford]

I see this one K

Jewels

> On 8 Dec 2021, at 6:38 pm, kg-net  wrote:
> 
>> We are trying to work out if there is a problem with the List.
>> Can anyone see this message?
> 
> Yes - and all the other responses - all working here
> 
> Cheers, K
> 
> --
> Kaye and Geoff
> k...@kgweb.net.au
> 
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Re: [WAMUG} Are You Receiving??

[Julie Bedford]

Receiving - no problems

Cheers
Jewels


> On 7 Dec 2021, at 6:59 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I received the original message from Pete and can also see your replies Ronni 
> (to Pete and to Tim) – so not sure why you think they are not showing?
>  
> (also other replies from Barry & Tim show OK)
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
>  
> From:  > on behalf of Ronda 
> Brown mailto:ro...@mac.com>>
> Reply-To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Date: Tuesday, 07 December 2021 at 18:52
> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Subject: Re: [WAMUG} Are You Receiving??
>  
> Hi Tim,
> My reply is not showing.
> I’m thinking it is because I am a ‘Life Member’ so do not have to pay a 
> membership.
> Cheers Ronni Brown
>  
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
> 
> 
>> On 7 Dec 2021, at 6:44 pm, Tim Law > > wrote:
>> 
>> Received okay
>> 
>> Tim Law
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Dec 2021, at 6:39 pm, Barry Sexstone >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Received OK
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Dec 2021, at 6:30 pm, Pete Smith >>> > wrote:
  
 Hi all.
  
 We are trying to work out if there is a problem with the List.
  
 Can anyone see this message?
  
 Many thanks in anticipation.
  
 (For those that can’t see this, no need to reply… Tee Hee Hee)
 
 Regards,
  
 Pete Smith
  
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Re: [WAMUG} Carbon Copy Cloner 6 releeased

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

Thought I would add that I upgraded from CCC3 to 6, with a discount, for my 
Catalina run Mac.  I asked them if I could get a discount
for CCC5 for my other computer and they said my CCC6 licence would also work on 
my other Mac.  They took only a 
short while to reply to me too.  I’m very content !

Cheers
Jewels

> On 23 May 2021, at 3:05 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Adam.
> After thinking about it I got the upgrade to CCC 6 at 50% discount.
> 
>> On 23 May 2021, at 11:49 am, Adam Lippiatt > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the heads up Daniel. Seems like a great upgrade. I have only ever 
>> had to save from a catastrophic failure of a hard drive with no warning once 
>> in my life but CCC had me with a bootable backup to keep going and then an 
>> easy restore when the hard drive was replaced  and I have never had the 
>> “lost all of my precious photos” regrets. 
>> 
>> I like time machine but in its now superseded form a lot quicker. 
>> 
>> Perhaps a comparison of the benefits of using one or the other or both 
>> backups could be a nice WAMUG presentation. 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam Lippiatt
>> 0402301706
>> 
>> On 20 May 2021, at 10:48 pm, Daniel Kerr > > wrote:
>> 
>> For all those people on the list that use CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) they 
>> have released Version 6. - apparently the first major “upgrade” in over 4 
>> years.
>> 
>> You can read more about it here -
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/20/bombich-carbon-copy-cloner-6-released/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Or the direct link to their site - 
>> https://bombich.com
>> 
>> Enjoy
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
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Re: [WAMUG} Member Subscriptions

[Julie Bedford]

HI

I have just paid my WAMUG subs - $30 for Julie Underwood (Bedford)
Please let me know if you need any further confirmation.

Cheers
Jewels


> On 27 Apr 2021, at 1:53 pm, Marcus F Harris  wrote:
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> Great.. I paid today $30
> Marcus Harris
> 
> Message sent from Marcus's iThing
> 
> On 25 Apr 2021, at 11:57, Bernard Barnwell  > wrote:
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>> Hello all Members,
>> After nearly six Months our bank is now 
>> accepting a change of Treasurer and we can now accept renewal of Membership. 
>> Our Bank details are Bankwest, BSB 886701 A/c 4197787. Thank you
>> 
>> Regards Bernard Barnwell Treasurer
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

That’s a shame. I think I paid around $165 a year ago for a one off license.

Jewels

> On 29 Mar 2021, at 10:09 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks again, thanks for responses, I’ve followed up with both of those 
> vendors and they can provide a Single machine once off installation of Office 
> but I want a multi user version (they were available previously but it seems 
> Microsoft has gone to the annual subscription model - with Office 365). 
> 
> I suppose I am going to have to go the 365 route - for the two of us - as the 
> kids all have direct access to Office via their school/Curtin Uni 
> associations so it seems a waste to provide them additional Office access 
> when they already have it. At $199 per single installation, I’d need two of 
> them.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete. 
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> in Sydney.
>> Excellent price.
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete >> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford >>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Pete
>>>> 
>>>> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they 
>>>> were the cheapest around.  
>>>> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 
>>>> <https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp >>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the 
>>>>> previous thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family 
>>>>> pack) for my lot here. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not 
>>>>> the annual renewal option?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Pete

I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they were 
the cheapest around.  
https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 



Cheers
Jewels


> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
> thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for my 
> lot here. 
> 
> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not the 
> annual renewal option?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
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Re: [WAMUG} Membership Fees for 2021

[Julie Bedford]

Add me also

Jewels

> On 20 Mar 2021, at 1:47 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Me too? what’s going on?
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2021, at 5:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> Has the banking situation been sorted for membership payments please ?
>> I usually pay in January but have held off due to apparent issues.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
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Re: [WAMUG} zoom meeting video

[Julie Bedford]

Hi

As a member, I would be interested in watching also.

Thanks
Jewels

> On 17 Feb 2021, at 11:02 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
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> Hi there,
> The February video only has a minute or so. Could you send the updated video 
> to the members please?
> Cheers
> Rosemary 
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WORD 365 - CATALINA

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
Hopefully someone can help me.   Ever since upgrading my Microsoft Office to 
the latest, I have had a recurring problem.

I usually type up a quote for my boss and paste in his signature.  Most of the 
time when I do this, I get the message -
“There is not enough memory or disk space to display or print the picture”

Oddly enough it doesn’t happen on every occasion.  I close all the other Word 
documents I have open, but still no success.

I am unable to find any solution to this.  Would appreciate anyone’s guidance 
on how to fix this one. 

Cheers
Jewels

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Re: Mail quitting unexpectedly

[Julie Bedford]

> Hi Philippe,

Yes, exactly what I have to do.  I would mention, I also have an iMac running 
on Mojave and do not have this problem.  Very odd.

Probably nothing to do with it, but the problematic Mac uses POP email, whereas 
the iMac uses iMAP.

Cheers
Jewels

>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 1:08 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Jewels, in fact only last night I got the same problem and had to 
>> send my attachments in different emails! In desperation I have just 
>> installed Outlook and will give it a try, reluctantly, and if it behaves 
>> then so be it!
>> 
>> Many thanks again, 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>> Philippe Chaperon
>> Perth, Australie Occidentale
>> 
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 11:03 am, Julie Bedford > <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phillippe
>> 
>> Can’t help you, but thought I would mention that my Mac O/S Catalina - mail 
>> often quits on me if for instance I am forwarding an email with a number of 
>> attachments.  I have to make fresh emails and only attach say two 
>> attachments in order to prevent mail from quitting.
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 10:29 am, Philippe Chaperon >> <mailto:laut...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning dear WAMUG’gers, 
>>> 
>>> I have been having two problems with my, otherwise, trusty iMac and am 
>>> hoping someone would have a suggestion for me.
>>> 
>>> Computer is: iMac 27” (mid 2010), MacOS 10.13.6 (High Sierra), 20GB RAM
>>> 
>>> 1. Mail application V11.5 (3445.9.6) would ‘quit unexpectedly’ whenever I 
>>> try to copy part of a text on an email. Hence, if I highlight text and as 
>>> soon as I do a ‘right-click’ Mail would quit. It would also quit 
>>> unexpectedly (boy! do I love that expression) if I try to delete an 
>>> attachment which I had incorrectly included, this problem is a random one. 
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this is relevant, but I notice that when Mail is launching  it 
>>> somehow takes over the whole  computer, that is other applications do have 
>>> problems to work as they should. Once Mail is launched, there is no further 
>>> problem. Is that a sign of some deeper problems? 
>>> 
>>> 2. The ‘copy & paste’ feature seems to be broken on my system. I am not 
>>> able to always copy URLs from Safari or Firefox and paste anywhere else. I 
>>> used to be able to copy a URL and paste it in an email, but that does not 
>>> work regularly. The process of 'copy and paste’ has become a hit-and-miss 
>>> one.
>>> I did look up for solutions on the Web and one of which was to delete a 
>>> specific process listed in Activity Monitor, can’t remember the name of 
>>> that process, but this did not work. 
>>> 
>>> If someone can suggest a solution this will be great. I am desperately 
>>> trying not to use Outlook, which currently is my ‘Plan B’ solution!!
>>> 
>>> Many thanks & Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Philippe Chaperon
>>> 
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>>> done something wonderful … that's what matters."
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Re: Mail quitting unexpectedly

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Phillippe

Can’t help you, but thought I would mention that my Mac O/S Catalina - mail 
often quits on me if for instance I am forwarding an email with a number of 
attachments.  I have to make fresh emails and only attach say two attachments 
in order to prevent mail from quitting.

Jewels

> On 28 Aug 2020, at 10:29 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Good morning dear WAMUG’gers, 
> 
> I have been having two problems with my, otherwise, trusty iMac and am hoping 
> someone would have a suggestion for me.
> 
> Computer is: iMac 27” (mid 2010), MacOS 10.13.6 (High Sierra), 20GB RAM
> 
> 1. Mail application V11.5 (3445.9.6) would ‘quit unexpectedly’ whenever I try 
> to copy part of a text on an email. Hence, if I highlight text and as soon as 
> I do a ‘right-click’ Mail would quit. It would also quit unexpectedly (boy! 
> do I love that expression) if I try to delete an attachment which I had 
> incorrectly included, this problem is a random one. 
> 
> Not sure if this is relevant, but I notice that when Mail is launching  it 
> somehow takes over the whole  computer, that is other applications do have 
> problems to work as they should. Once Mail is launched, there is no further 
> problem. Is that a sign of some deeper problems? 
> 
> 2. The ‘copy & paste’ feature seems to be broken on my system. I am not able 
> to always copy URLs from Safari or Firefox and paste anywhere else. I used to 
> be able to copy a URL and paste it in an email, but that does not work 
> regularly. The process of 'copy and paste’ has become a hit-and-miss one.
> I did look up for solutions on the Web and one of which was to delete a 
> specific process listed in Activity Monitor, can’t remember the name of that 
> process, but this did not work. 
> 
> If someone can suggest a solution this will be great. I am desperately trying 
> not to use Outlook, which currently is my ‘Plan B’ solution!!
> 
> Many thanks & Best Regards,
> 
> 
> Philippe Chaperon
> 
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> something wonderful … that's what matters."
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[Julie Bedford]

I would mention that since upgrading to Catalina and with itunes being removed, 
it is extremely difficult to use this with the ipod Classic.  I have worked out 
a way to do it,
but it is rather fiddly.  I did manage to install itunes on Catalina, but 
unfortunately still have not worked out a way to make it work successfully with 
ipod Classic.

Jewels


> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:27 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
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> Hi everyone
> I removed iTunes from my computer some time ago, but find that perhaps I was 
> too hasty. Can I download iTunes from Apple? if so from where?
> Kind regards
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.

Jewels


> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
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> Hi Jewels
> Were they SSD or normal drives?
> Peter
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
>> I managed to transfer the files to another
>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>> 
>> Hope that helps
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>>> hard drives?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Pete, sorry I misread Peter’s email.  They were HDDs.  I may myself look 
at the SSD external drive, but always thought they were hugely more expensive.  
Always have an SDD on my Mac though.

Thanks

Jewels


> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:28 pm, Peter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie that is lucky you were able to transfer data before anything got 
> lost. Peter’s original question however relates to whether external SSD 
> drives are more reliable and it wasn’t clear from your email if your drives 
> were HDD (mechanical spinning disc drives) or SSD (solid state drives). 
> 
> My experience has been to trust SSD devices more than HDD drive devices. It 
> stands to reason that something mechanical and moving in principle is going 
> to fail at some point where solid state devices have potentially an 
> indefinite life - though there may be reasons that can’t be. SSD is likely to 
> be more robust against accidental dropping too where an HDD not so likely. 
> SSD drives are likely quicker too though can be a function of USB connection 
> generation (2.0 or 3.0).
> 
> I would lean to SSD Peter if I was buying now but I have quite a number of 
> HDD external drives and they have been reliable for many years for me. Always 
> a good policy to have backup of all data too - including your externally 
> attached drives  - to Time Machine so you can sleep at night about the 
> potential loss of data not being disastrous. The price of HDD external drives 
> is so very cheap now too where SSD a bit dearer for the same capacity. Always 
> go a good named brand.
> 
> Pete.
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford > <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
>> I managed to transfer the files to another
>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>> 
>> Hope that helps
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis >> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>>> hard drives?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Peter

I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily I 
managed to transfer the files to another
external one.  Both were Toshiba.

Hope that helps

Cheers
Jewels


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> Hi everyone
> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external hard 
> drives?
> Kind regards
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Re: Yes I can attend the meeting

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Maureen,

I would like to attend on line also. 
Hopefully I’ll find you on the day !

Thanks
Jewels


> On 6 Jul 2020, at 11:31 am, topsm...@internode.on.net wrote:
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> 
> Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
> 
> Apologies for the late notice. (You just can't get good staff these days. Hee 
> Hee)  Our WAMUG Zoom meeting will take place this Tuesday at 7:30 pm. The 
> first half hour is a presentation, followed by general questions.  
> 
> This month Peter Hinchcliffe will present Art Text 4.  This software allows 
> you to create sophisticated text effects and typography graphics for a 
> variety of media. Just might be the thing to take your presentations and 
> projects to the next level.
> 
> Art Text 4 is available on the App Store. Incidentally, the paid version is 
> currently on offer at 30% discount until July 9. It is not often you get to 
> see software in action before you decide if it is for you.
> 
> If you would like to join please indicate via the list and you will be 
> individually emailed the login details. 
> 
> Cheers, 
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Re: Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks for your comments Peter

Jewels

> On 19 May 2020, at 10:24 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie, sorry I don't know anything about MacScan but others here may be 
> able to comment. I've only used Malwarebytes a couple of times literally and 
> years ago at that. There may be some online review comments that help with 
> this understanding. 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
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> To:
> "WAMUG List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
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> Subject:
> Re: Infection best Malware Removal Software needed
> 
> 
> Hi Peter (Crisp)
> 
> Out of interest, what is your opinion on MacScan ?  I’ve been using this for 
> many years, but also use the free version of Malwarebytes, which detected 
> some bug in the past, whereas the McScan didn’t.
> I wondered if this was a sales gimmick.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jewels
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2020, at 9:42 am, Peter Crisp  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter, this one https://www.malwarebytes.com/ 
>  is one that is universally accepted across 
> this forum, I know Ronni recommends it so can be trusted as a bona fide good 
> performing thing. I have used it myself some years ago.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> Hello
> 
> I seem to have picked up a malware infection (itpatratr.com 
> ) on one 
> of my web sites which is re-directing my pages.
> 
> Could someone suggest a suitable malware software package to purchase.
> 
> I have Avast free (that is what picked up the virus) but others 
> include Total AV, Scan Guard etc. and I wish to cover 3 desktop Macs 
> and 1 Mac Book Pro lap top.
> 
> any suggestions would be welcome
> 
> Peter Faulks
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> 
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[Julie Bedford]

Hi Peter (Crisp)

Out of interest, what is your opinion on MacScan ?  I’ve been using this for 
many years, but also use the free version of Malwarebytes, which detected some 
bug in the past, whereas the McScan didn’t.
I wondered if this was a sales gimmick.

Regards

Jewels


> On 19 May 2020, at 9:42 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter, this one https://www.malwarebytes.com/ 
>  is one that is universally accepted across 
> this forum, I know Ronni recommends it so can be trusted as a bona fide good 
> performing thing. I have used it myself some years ago.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
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> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Tue, 19 May 2020 09:18:51 +0800
> Subject:
> Infection best Malware Removal Software needed
> 
> 
> Hello
> 
> I seem to have picked up a malware infection (itpatratr.com) on one 
> of my web sites which is re-directing my pages.
> 
> Could someone suggest a suitable malware software package to purchase.
> 
> I have Avast free (that is what picked up the virus) but others 
> include Total AV, Scan Guard etc. and I wish to cover 3 desktop Macs 
> and 1 Mac Book Pro lap top.
> 
> any suggestions would be welcome
> 
> Peter Faulks
> -- 
> Peter & Irene Faulks
> Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close
> PARKWOOD Western Australia 6147
> 
> Phone: +618 9457 0747 (h)
> Peter Mobile: 0416 187 937
> Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404
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Re: Time Machine and external hard drives

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Philippe

Not really sure if this is relevant to your problem.  I purchased a 3TB time 
capsule for my iMac a few years ago, but could never get it going and thought 
it was in conflict with my other time capsule which backs up my old MacPro.  A 
tech had a look at it yesterday and said the hard drive was not working.  I did 
have a spare 1TB hard drive which he used to replace the time capsule one, so 
now that is happily working now.   The failed hard drive was a Seagate.   

Personally, I never purchase Western Digital external drives, as a friend of 
mine had two of these that failed.  I usually purchase the Toshiba or Transcend 
ones which I’ve never had a problem with and some of these are at least 4 years 
old.  I use these to back up and store files.

Cheers
Jewels


> On 13 Mar 2020, at 1:08 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
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> Dear WAMUG’ers, 
> 
> I use an external disc drive to which I get Time Machine to save its backups. 
> I have however had troubles with different drives to mount on the desktop, 
> and thus TM being unable to do its backups. Running Disk Utility to ‘Repair’ 
> the disc, it reported unable to repair. I tried TechTool Pro 12 which also 
> reported being unable to repair.
> 
> Disk Utility did show the external drive, but due to the fsck–hfs process 
> running in the background, I suspect trying to repair the Backup drive used 
> by TM, the drive was ‘greyed -out’ and I could not eject the drive. 
> 
> This is now the 4th Western Digital Drive which encountered this problem on 2 
> different iMacs, used exclusively by Time Machine. Every time I tried to 
> reformat the drives concerned, whenever DiskUtil could do it, but the problem 
> of not mounting up occurred again. 
> 
> I cannot believe that WD drives could be so unreliable as to fail in 
> sometimes less that 7 or 8 months! The last one to ‘die’ is a 6TB My Book 
> purchased about 8 or 9 months ago. I am now wondering whether TM is the 
> culprit? To note that I have 2 other external HD connected to my iMac used to 
> save some of my heavy files - mostly photos and books, and they have not 
> shown any sign of corruption or of failing (as yet!) and have been in use for 
> a few years now. By the way, all the external drives are connected via USB. 
> 
> I would appreciate any views on this matter. Do I have to purchase another 
> 6TB drive, and if so what are the reliable brands out there?
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Keep safe and have a great night. 
> 
> Philippe C. 
> Philippe dit la Grenouille ...
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> 20GB RAM
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Re: MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

 mixing POP 
> and IMAP access across different computers however changing from POP to IMAP 
> need not be "rather laborious and difficult." provided one has a clear plan 
> of action. I will give you a few thoughts based on my own experience. I 
> actually use MS Outlook as my email client rather than OSX Mail - so some 
> details/procedures may be slightly different, but the principles are the same.
> 
> • In your email client you do not "change" an account from POP to IMAP, 
> you create a new IMAP account and then delete the old POP account.
> • If you use email "rules" to sort and organise your email (I have 
> multiple email accounts and use rules a lot) be aware that your old POP rules 
> will no longer work if/when the POP account is deleted. You can set-up new 
> IMAP client rules - but they will only be effective when the computer that 
> the rules are set-up on is accessing the email server. The other option is to 
> set-up Server rules - which work on the emails as they arrive at the server, 
> irrespective of whether any computer client is actually accessing the 
> account. This way you do not need to worry about setting up the same client 
> rules on different computers.
> * Deleting the POP account can result in the loss of emails associated 
> with that account - that is emails which have been downloaded to your 
> computer and are no longer on the server - so you need to ensure that you 
> have already filed or otherwise saved these emails beforehand.
> • You can actually have both an IMAP account and a POP account 
> simultaneously accessing the mail server - though, for obvious reasons, this 
> would not be a normal setup!
> • As an interim measure, I found that having both IMAP account and a POP 
> account simultaneously active in the email client could be a convenient 
> changeover strategy - eg:
> 1)You already have the POP account setup and emails stored "on my 
> computer" - temporarily change the account settings to "leave a copy of each 
> message on the server" and "Delete copies from the server - Never"  and 
> disable the automatic send and receive schedule - this has effectively 
> disabled the POP account without deleting it. You should probably ensure that 
> this has been done on all devices set-up with POP accounts
> 2)Set-up a new IMAP account to access the same email account. Set-up all 
> your folders/filing on the email server using this IMAP account. You could 
> also set-up server rules at this point.
> 3)Work through all your "on my computer" emails to ensure they are 
> suitably filed/archived - eg to your new IMAP folders.
> 4)When you are happy that your new IMAP account is working fine and all 
> your emails have been suitably filed/archived, you can delete the POP account 
> from your email client.
> 5)If you have any old POP email rules you can now delete these as they 
> are no longer effective.
> 
> You mention that you have a good email backup software - Mailer Archiver X - 
> so I suppose you could omit step 3 and instead use your email archive to 
> retrieve any emails removed when you delete the POP account - whatever works 
> best for you and your way of thinking/working - we are all different here!!
> 
> Just my thoughts. HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
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> -Original Message-
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> Date: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 at 23:58
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> 
>Hi Neil,
> 
>Thanks for your reply Neil.  Yes, I’ve come to the same conclusion in 
> regards to having POP and IMAP on the same network.  On checking, it appears 
> to change an IMAP to a POP account is rather laborious and difficult.  I’ve 
> always used the POP and prefer this option, as I look upon the IMAP to be 
> similar to a Cloud storage system.  Now that I have a better understanding of 
> these, I am sure I’ll survive until I manage to purchase the new MacPro and 
> then decide what to do.  I do understand what Daniel says though and can see 
> why most prefer this option.  
> 
>I checked my quota on the iinet website earlier and I’m over 1900mb of 
> 1000mb.  A bit of a mystery as I do not have that many stored on the server.  
> After speaking with iinet, they think their server is having problems and 
> should be able to clean out my mail tomorrow.  A friend today had a look at 
> my system and changed the outgoing port, which actually returned to it’s 
> original number but the good thing is, my email is now working ?  I have no 
&g

Re: Another Mail conundrum

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Alex

I thought you were being funny at first !  Here is the link - and email. - 
Cheers Jewels

Hi Jewels

Even if you move them off the Inbox, you can still reference them back. 
My inbox is pretty much empty…..well at this point in time it is completely 
empty as I’ve done all the days emails and filed it all away,..to start afresh 
tomorrow. (And I know it annoys Ronni when I say my Inbox is zero,….lol….). But 
I can still go back and search for every single email right back to whenever I 
want,…and it will search all folders regardless of where I stored emails to.

And yes, if you have them being set to delete from the server,…this will be 
affecting IMAP. Once you delete emails from the inbox at the server,…it deletes 
them out of IMAP folders. POP3 is completely different. So you really want them 
out of your Inbox (and off the server,…stored locally). This will then free up 
space on your iinet server,…and not have the delete issue.
This link to understanding how IMAP and POP works may help - 
https://www.name.com/support/articles/205935497-Understanding-the-difference-between-POP-and-IMAP
 

https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/email/pop3-imap-smtp-protocols-explained-ports
 



But if you’ve reached your iinet server,…and you have it set to delete after 
month at iinet,…then that is why it’s deleting from your Inbox. As that is how 
IMAp works.

Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry
> On 21 Nov 2019, at 12:43 AM, Alex  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> just to add to “mysterious”Mail goings on, I would like to know how I can 
> lose emails into thin air?
> 
> As an example, I have lost Daniel’s reply to Jewels yesterday with the link 
> to info about imap & pop.  Now I would have thought that if I had 
> inadvertently deleted the message or moved it to another folder, when I did a 
> search, it would appear again.  But not so.  this also happened a few days 
> ago when I had my finger hovering above another message while thinking - it 
> also disappeared into the ether!
> 
> Now, I am a believer in operator error, but the logic of this situation 
> baffles me.  (I haven’t emptied the Trash folder this evening which I usually 
> do on a daily basis)
> 
> Sorry I can’t give more specific info, except using a MacBook Pro 2018 High 
> Sierra.
> 
> Cheers & thanks,
> 
> Alex
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Re: MAIL

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,
Apologies for my late response, have been working all day until late this 
evening.
Yes, I would say you are definitely correct about the two protocols.  There was 
one comment on the net that said not to use them together as one would hit 
problems.  Rather than make any changes to these protocols at the moment, I 
will hang on until I get my new MacPro, whenever they become available and will 
probably have the two machines set up as POP.  I do appreciate you favouring 
the IMAP though and its advantages.

In regards to the Outgoing Mail Server, I now realise I should have gone into 
the Outgoing Mail Server box and edited the SMTP server list, as this is the 
only way I can get to the password etc.  A friend came around this evening and 
checked this. The password and other settings were where you said they should 
have been.  He did change the port number though, but later discovered it had 
reverted back to its original number.  However, it got me back on line with 
sending out emails.  Neither of us have any explanation for this.  I also 
called iinet as the server was saying I was over my quota - which is only 
1000mbs.  I was told the server was not functioning correctly which was why it 
would not release the deletions I had made.  It should be running okay 
tomorrow.  Who knows !

Many thanks for giving me a hand on this one.  I can say I have learnt a lot 
from this experience, mainly thanks to yourself and will keep your emails as a 
reference in case I need in the future (let’s hope not though)

Sincere thanks again

Jewels

> On 20 Nov 2019, at 1:00 AM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> OK,..so part of your mail issue could be related to one computer using POP 
> and the other using IMAP. As they’re both different “protocols”. So if the 
> POP3 one is “downloading” or removing from the server,..then it will be 
> affecting the IMAP one. You really want them using the same protocol. - ie 
> both POP3 or both IMAP.
> It depends on how you want to use Mail really…..
> 
> In regards to the settings. Where you went to Outoing Mail Server and then 
> clicked Advanced tab. On the left of that, should be “Server Settings” tab.
> Click on that, and you want to make sure that both Username and password are 
> filled in.
> It should read.
> Username - jew...@iinet.net.au
> Password - your password
> Host Name - mail.iinet.net.au
> Authentication set to “Password” (or if using iinet as your ISP, you can set 
> this to None).
> 
> I generally have “Automatically manage connection Settings unticked” and the 
> allow insecure authentication also unticked.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> ---
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> MacWizardry
> 
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> Email: 
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> 
>> On 20 Nov 2019, at 12:45 am, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the instructions.
>> 
>> Okay, Right hand side hit on the jew...@iinet.net.au address, now on the 
>> right hand side I have showing :
>> 
>> 
>> Account Type POP (on my networked iMac it is IMAP)
>> 
>> Then my alias
>> 
>> Email address:  jew...@iinet.net.au
>> 
>> Full nameJulie etc
>> 
>> Incoming Mail Server - mail.iinet.net.au (which is shadowed)
>> 
>> User Name: jew...@iinet.net.au
>> 
>> Password - filled in
>> 
>> Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) - mail.iinet.net.au
>> 
>> TLS Certificate - ‘None’
>> 
>> 
>> Under “Advanced” tab
>> 
>> I have the Port showing and underneath that -
>> 
>> Authentication - Password
>> 
>> Then a box unticked “allow insecure authentication”
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this make sense
>> 
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Nov 2019, at 12:27 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Julie
>>> 
>>> Most emails sent if you’re on the same server shouldn’t need authentication 
>>> (ie if you’re sending iinet emails on the iinet server). However, if you’re 
>>> sending emails on a different network connection (or travel on different 
>>> wireless connections that use different internet/ISPs) then authentication 
>>> is needed (eg using iinet email but say

Re: MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

d then set-up your various accounts and devices so 
> that they all play nice together.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  on behalf of Julie 
> Bedford 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 at 01:07
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: Re: MAIL BOX
> 
>Hi Daniel,
> 
>The way you described your mail set up with filing emails, is pretty much 
> the same way (if  not so intricate) as the way I do mine, but only with 
> selected emails and the rest I leave in the In Box to refer back to when I 
> need to.  I sometimes need to refer back to say 2010 - so I know where you 
> are coming from.  
> 
>After reading your email, perhaps the problem is that I upgraded my iMac a 
> while ago to Majove, in order to follow MYOB requirements, but left the 
> networked MacPro with ElCapitan (can’t upgrade as you know as MacPro is now 
> too old).  So the Mail will be different.  Could this be the problems?  These 
> are the only two devices I use. I haven’t any smart boxes, folders or rules 
> either.  On the iinet server, I have it set to delete after one month, but I 
> am sure that wouldn’t be interfering with my iMac, as it never has done in 
> the past with the MacPro.  
> 
>I have just gone onto the iinet web server and it does say I’ve exceeded 
> my quota.  So assume I need to delete from the server some emails ! It’s 
> getting late and will have to sort out tomorrow.
> 
>Cheers
>Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 20 Nov 2019, at 12:46 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Julie
>> 
>> When you create a new folder in Mail, you can choose to create it on the 
>> “IMAP” selection (eg at iinet), or “On My Mac”. 
>> Eg, go to the Mailbox menu and choose “new Mailbox”. You’ll see a drop down 
>> menu, and the “Location” you want to have this set to “On My Mac”. (It 
>> doesn’t mean it’s stored as a folder on the actual hard drive you can see 
>> (well, it kinda is,..but it’s hidden,..but for this lets pretend we don’t 
>> see it)….
>> So in Apple Mail down the left hand side where the Mailboxes are, you’ll see 
>> a header called “On My Mac”. This is where all your stored emails will show. 
>> You can then have sub folders in these as well.
>> For example. I have On My Mac. Then under that I have a folder called 
>> MacWizardry. Inside that I have a folder called Customers. Inside that are 
>> two folders one called A;L and one called M-Z. And then inside those folders 
>> are my regular clients I see all the time. I then have a “non standard” 
>> folder called OC 2019, OC 2018, OC 2017 etc. Inside these folders I store 
>> all my In’s and outs emails. I can go back 19 years of emails for any one 
>> person. All stored locally on my computer and not on my server. So I can 
>> look up any emails I want at any time.
>> And you can then have many many folders for different things. (My example is 
>> just a few folders, but I have lots and lots more. Folders and then sub 
>> folders inside those.
>> I move messages out of my inbox and sent mailboxes once I’ve dealt with the 
>> emails and want to save them.
>> As an example I have main folder called Computers and then one of the 
>> subfolders are all my WAMUG emails. Inside that one folder alone is 61,500 
>> odd wamug emails. I can quickly look up any old email I want to that folder 
>> alone).
>> So my Inbox and Sent items are pretty much empty. Bar any I want to save to 
>> follow up for the day or week. Anything else is filed away on my “main 
>> computer” My other devices are just “slaves”. I answer emails from them, but 
>> file away on just one computer only.
>> 
>> But that can help store away emails.
>> 
>> Back to your deleting emails.
>> I’m assuming you have other devices collecting email as well? Are they all 
>> set to IMAP for the same email as well? Are you deleting from other devices?
>> As Mail itself doesn’t really have a “delete from Inbox” setting. It does 
>> for Trash…but it doesn’t for anything else. So without knowing or seeing all 
>> of the setup, it’s a bit hard to give a full answer unfortunately. As if all 
>> using IMAP, then they *should* all be saved in the Inbox. It’s only the 
>> Trash folder that deletes after a week/month etc is a setting for.
>> So in theory it shouldn’t be doing it from the Inbox.
>> Do you have any “Smart Mailboxes” or “Smart folders” or “Rules” or anything 
>> like that set up? As they’re the only thing I can think t

Re: MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

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>> On 20 Nov 2019, at 12:26 am, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> I checked under the Server Settings and it is IMAP.  Excellent idea on 
>> saving the emails On My Mac, especially as I am always going back referring 
>> to them.  Excuse
>> my ignorance, where do these files get stored though ?  meaning where would 
>> I find the folder/emails.
>> 
>> All my inbox emails disappear after a month.  At the moment the oldest email 
>> in the inbox  is dated 18 October 2019 and tomorrow it changes to 19 
>> October.  I’ve 
>> never had this problem before either.
>> 
>> I had been relying on my MacPro which is networked to the iMac, but now Mail 
>> on the MacPro is playing up but rather than confuse matters, I’ll ask for 
>> some assistance in a separate email for the MacPro.  This has made me decide 
>> this evening to purchase one of the new MacPro’s when it eventually becomes 
>> available - even though it will cost a fortune. 
>> 
>> Thank you for offering to help
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:13 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Julie
>>> 
>>> Deleting from the inbox isn’t “standard” practice for email,…so could 
>>> either be something in the account itself or the settings.
>>> How do you have email set up? Is it POP3 or IMAP? (Or Exchange?)
>>> As I have POP3 and IMAP accounts and have never had email deleted from it 
>>> at all.
>>> 
>>> So might need a bit more info to advise.
>>> 
>>> As a “short term’” fix, you could create a folder in Apple Mail “On My Mac” 
>>> and put older emails in to folders there,..rather then in the Inbox.
>>> This saves them all on the computer rather then in the Inbox.
>>> (There’s a whole other long post on the benefits of doing this, rather then 
>>> leaving lots and lots of emails in Inbox, Sent etc). Saving them in “On My 
>>> Mac” folders is more beneficial generally).
>>> 
>>> Is it just an iinet address or another? 
>>> Let us know the above and we can try and help.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> ---
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>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
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>>> Email: 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:05 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the assistance. I already have the Erase Deleted Messages as 
>>>> Never, but
>>>> its the ‘In Box’ that gets deleted after one month.  Thing is I am forever 
>>>> going back to my
>>>> in box for work, so I really need to keep them all in the In Box.  On my 
>>>> MacPro (on El Capitan), the emails
>>>> stay in the In Box until I delete them, which is how I prefer it.  Just 
>>>> can’t seem to work out
>>>> how to set up the iMac in the same way.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 10:20 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jewels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I now use Mac OS Catalina, but I don’t think this has changed.
>>>>> So I just took a look at mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mail/Preferences/Accounts
>>>>> Then click on "Mailbox Behaviours"
>>>>> Then in the box “Erase Deleted Messages” select “Never”
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have mine selected for “After One Month"
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 9:50 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>

Re: MAIL

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

 

Thanks for the instructions.

Okay, Right hand side hit on the jew...@iinet.net.au 
<mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au> address, now on the right hand side I have showing 
:

 

Account Type POP (on my networked iMac it is IMAP)

Then my alias

Email address:  jew...@iinet.net.au <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>
Full nameJulie etc

Incoming Mail Server - mail.iinet.net.au <http://mail.iinet.net.au/> (which is 
shadowed)

User Name: jewels@iinet. <mailto:jew...@iinet.hnet>net.au <http://net.au/>
Password - filled in

Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) - mail.iinet.net.au <http://mail.iinet.net.au/>
TLS Certificate - ‘None’

 

Under “Advanced” tab

I have the Port showing and underneath that -

Authentication - Password

Then a box unticked “allow insecure authentication”

 

Hope this make sense

 

Jewels


> On 20 Nov 2019, at 12:27 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie
> 
> Most emails sent if you’re on the same server shouldn’t need authentication 
> (ie if you’re sending iinet emails on the iinet server). However, if you’re 
> sending emails on a different network connection (or travel on different 
> wireless connections that use different internet/ISPs) then authentication is 
> needed (eg using iinet email but say on a Telstra or Optus network).
> This setting can be found in - 
> 
> Mail = Preferences - Accounts - click on email account on left hand side. On 
> right hand side, go to Server Settings.
> Look under Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). You’ll see “Host Name”, which is a 
> drown menu (if you have set ti automatically manage connection settings this 
> can be slightly different).
> Go to Edit SMTP Server List (or you’ll want the follow details near where it 
> says “host name”.)
> Under Server Settings, you may have Authentication set to “Password”. Above 
> this, you want the full iinet email address and the email password).
> Or if you using iinet email on the iinet internet, you can change 
> Authentication to “None”.
> Then click OK.
> 
> That should get it working for you.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
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> MacWizardry
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> Email: 
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> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:57 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to clean up my mail on my MacPro (Elcapitan) and now find I 
>> can’t send emails.
>> The message I get is “:  Cannot Send Message Using the server 
>> mail.iinet.net.au” The server response was
>> ‘authentication required’
>> Any suggestions ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
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Re: MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

I checked under the Server Settings and it is IMAP.  Excellent idea on saving 
the emails On My Mac, especially as I am always going back referring to them.  
Excuse
my ignorance, where do these files get stored though ?  meaning where would I 
find the folder/emails.

All my inbox emails disappear after a month.  At the moment the oldest email in 
the inbox  is dated 18 October 2019 and tomorrow it changes to 19 October.  
I’ve 
never had this problem before either.

I had been relying on my MacPro which is networked to the iMac, but now Mail on 
the MacPro is playing up but rather than confuse matters, I’ll ask for some 
assistance in a separate email for the MacPro.  This has made me decide this 
evening to purchase one of the new MacPro’s when it eventually becomes 
available - even though it will cost a fortune. 

Thank you for offering to help

Jewels


> On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:13 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie
> 
> Deleting from the inbox isn’t “standard” practice for email,…so could either 
> be something in the account itself or the settings.
> How do you have email set up? Is it POP3 or IMAP? (Or Exchange?)
> As I have POP3 and IMAP accounts and have never had email deleted from it at 
> all.
> 
> So might need a bit more info to advise.
> 
> As a “short term’” fix, you could create a folder in Apple Mail “On My Mac” 
> and put older emails in to folders there,..rather then in the Inbox.
> This saves them all on the computer rather then in the Inbox.
> (There’s a whole other long post on the benefits of doing this, rather then 
> leaving lots and lots of emails in Inbox, Sent etc). Saving them in “On My 
> Mac” folders is more beneficial generally).
> 
> Is it just an iinet address or another? 
> Let us know the above and we can try and help.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:05 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Stephen
>> 
>> Thanks for the assistance. I already have the Erase Deleted Messages as 
>> Never, but
>> its the ‘In Box’ that gets deleted after one month.  Thing is I am forever 
>> going back to my
>> in box for work, so I really need to keep them all in the In Box.  On my 
>> MacPro (on El Capitan), the emails
>> stay in the In Box until I delete them, which is how I prefer it.  Just 
>> can’t seem to work out
>> how to set up the iMac in the same way.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 10:20 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels.
>>> 
>>> I now use Mac OS Catalina, but I don’t think this has changed.
>>> So I just took a look at mine.
>>> 
>>> Mail/Preferences/Accounts
>>> Then click on "Mailbox Behaviours"
>>> Then in the box “Erase Deleted Messages” select “Never”
>>> 
>>> I have mine selected for “After One Month"
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 9:50 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I have an iMac O/S Mojave and am unable to alter the behaviours in the 
>>>> Mail Preferences so that my Inbox does not delete my emails.
>>>> I have managed to figure out how to retain the sent emails now, but am 
>>>> finding the Mail Behaviour options a little ambiguous to say the least
>>>> and  can only manage to save my inbox for a month.  Under the ’sent 
>>>> mailbox’ option in Preferences it does not list an ‘Inbox’. My
>>>> mail application does show an inbox though.
>>>> 
>>>> Would be grateful if anyone can give me a step to step instruction on how 
>>>> not to have my inbox emails automatically deleted.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
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MAIL

[Julie Bedford]

Hi

I’ve been trying to clean up my mail on my MacPro (Elcapitan) and now find I 
can’t send emails.
The message I get is “:  Cannot Send Message Using the server mail.iinet.net.au 
” The server response was
‘authentication required’
Any suggestions ?

Thanks
Jewels

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Re: MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

HI Stephen

Thanks for the assistance. I already have the Erase Deleted Messages as Never, 
but
its the ‘In Box’ that gets deleted after one month.  Thing is I am forever 
going back to my
in box for work, so I really need to keep them all in the In Box.  On my MacPro 
(on El Capitan), the emails
stay in the In Box until I delete them, which is how I prefer it.  Just can’t 
seem to work out
how to set up the iMac in the same way.

Thanks

Jewels

> On 19 Nov 2019, at 10:20 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels.
> 
> I now use Mac OS Catalina, but I don’t think this has changed.
> So I just took a look at mine.
> 
> Mail/Preferences/Accounts
> Then click on "Mailbox Behaviours"
> Then in the box “Erase Deleted Messages” select “Never”
> 
> I have mine selected for “After One Month"
> 
>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 9:50 pm, Julie Bedford > <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I have an iMac O/S Mojave and am unable to alter the behaviours in the Mail 
>> Preferences so that my Inbox does not delete my emails.
>> I have managed to figure out how to retain the sent emails now, but am 
>> finding the Mail Behaviour options a little ambiguous to say the least
>> and  can only manage to save my inbox for a month.  Under the ’sent mailbox’ 
>> option in Preferences it does not list an ‘Inbox’. My
>> mail application does show an inbox though.
>> 
>> Would be grateful if anyone can give me a step to step instruction on how 
>> not to have my inbox emails automatically deleted.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
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MAIL BOX

[Julie Bedford]

Hi

I have an iMac O/S Mojave and am unable to alter the behaviours in the Mail 
Preferences so that my Inbox does not delete my emails.
I have managed to figure out how to retain the sent emails now, but am finding 
the Mail Behaviour options a little ambiguous to say the least
and  can only manage to save my inbox for a month.  Under the ’sent mailbox’ 
option in Preferences it does not list an ‘Inbox’. My
mail application does show an inbox though.

Would be grateful if anyone can give me a step to step instruction on how not 
to have my inbox emails automatically deleted.

Many thanks

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Re: MAIL PROBLEMS

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni

Sadly no change.

Jewels

> On 26 Aug 2019, at 4:09 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> Thanks for your prompt reply !
> 
> 1.  Checked Mailbox (in the top menu), then to ‘Go to Favourite Mail Box; - 
> already selected as ‘in box’
> 
> 2. Mail already includes bin, junk etc
> 
> 3. I have synchronised, as suggested
> 
> 4. Spotlight suggestions was ticked already.
> 
> When I put a name in the search box in mail, it appears to only search ‘mail 
> boxes’ and not the in box.  When I click the magnifying glass in the mail 
> search bar, it comes up with ‘mailboxes’ as the only option.  Mail has worked 
> perfectly for years but not now.
> 
> I’ll do a shut down and see if mail updates.  I’ll get back to you either way.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Jewels
> 
>> On 26 Aug 2019, at 3:12 PM, Ronni Brown > <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels, 
>> 
>> If a specific mailbox 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhl6bb4f885/12.0/mac/10.14>
>>  is selected in the Favourites bar 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhle218958b/12.0/mac/10.14>,
>>  Mail searches only that mailbox. To search all mailboxes instead, click All.
>> Mail may not be looking in the Bin or Junk mailboxes, or searching encrypted 
>> messages. To include them when searching all mailboxes, choose Mail > 
>> Preferences, click General, then select the options.
>> You may need to sync the mailboxes on your Mac with those on the mail server 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhle586aecf/12.0/mac/10.14>.
>>  Choose Mailbox > Synchronise > [account].
>> The Mail folder (located in your home Library folder) may be excluded from 
>> Spotlight searching. To check, choose Apple menu  > System Preferences, 
>> click Spotlight, then click Privacy.
>> Kind Regards,
>>   Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 Aug 2019, at 3:06 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jewels.
>>> 
>>> In Mail got to Preferences/Accounts/Mailbox Behaviours
>>> That should at least resolve the “Mail Deleting” issue.
>>> 
>>>> On 26 Aug 2019, at 2:59 pm, Julie Bedford >>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m having a very frustrating time with my MacPro running El Capitan 
>>>> 10.11.16.  About 2 months ago, I found I was unable to search for emails 
>>>> sent and received in the search bar.  I work from home and daily need to 
>>>> locate older received / sent emails.  As you can imagine, it literally 
>>>> takes me hours to locate a particular email.
>>>> 
>>>> I also have an imac running Mojave - the mail used to operate just fine 
>>>> until recently and now it deletes all incoming and outgoing emails approx 
>>>> a month old. 
>>>> 
>>>> Would be grateful if anyone can give me direction.
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: MAIL PROBLEMS

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Stephen,

You have solved the puzzle on the iMac/Mojave for me.  Thank you so much.  I’ll 
remember that tip !

Cheers
Jewels

> On 26 Aug 2019, at 3:06 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels.
> 
> In Mail got to Preferences/Accounts/Mailbox Behaviours
> That should at least resolve the “Mail Deleting” issue.
> 
>> On 26 Aug 2019, at 2:59 pm, Julie Bedford > <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I’m having a very frustrating time with my MacPro running El Capitan 
>> 10.11.16.  About 2 months ago, I found I was unable to search for emails 
>> sent and received in the search bar.  I work from home and daily need to 
>> locate older received / sent emails.  As you can imagine, it literally takes 
>> me hours to locate a particular email.
>> 
>> I also have an imac running Mojave - the mail used to operate just fine 
>> until recently and now it deletes all incoming and outgoing emails approx a 
>> month old. 
>> 
>> Would be grateful if anyone can give me direction.
>> 
>> Jewels
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> 
> 
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Re: MAIL PROBLEMS

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for your prompt reply !

1.  Checked Mailbox (in the top menu), then to ‘Go to Favourite Mail Box; - 
already selected as ‘in box’

2. Mail already includes bin, junk etc

3. I have synchronised, as suggested

4. Spotlight suggestions was ticked already.

When I put a name in the search box in mail, it appears to only search ‘mail 
boxes’ and not the in box.  When I click the magnifying glass in the mail 
search bar, it comes up with ‘mailboxes’ as the only option.  Mail has worked 
perfectly for years but not now.

I’ll do a shut down and see if mail updates.  I’ll get back to you either way.

Many thanks

Jewels

> On 26 Aug 2019, at 3:12 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels, 
> 
> If a specific mailbox 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhl6bb4f885/12.0/mac/10.14>
>  is selected in the Favourites bar 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhle218958b/12.0/mac/10.14>,
>  Mail searches only that mailbox. To search all mailboxes instead, click All.
> Mail may not be looking in the Bin or Junk mailboxes, or searching encrypted 
> messages. To include them when searching all mailboxes, choose Mail > 
> Preferences, click General, then select the options.
> You may need to sync the mailboxes on your Mac with those on the mail server 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/aside/mlhle586aecf/12.0/mac/10.14>.
>  Choose Mailbox > Synchronise > [account].
> The Mail folder (located in your home Library folder) may be excluded from 
> Spotlight searching. To check, choose Apple menu  > System Preferences, click 
> Spotlight, then click Privacy.
> Kind Regards,
>   Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 26 Aug 2019, at 3:06 pm, Stephen Chape  <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jewels.
>> 
>> In Mail got to Preferences/Accounts/Mailbox Behaviours
>> That should at least resolve the “Mail Deleting” issue.
>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2019, at 2:59 pm, Julie Bedford >> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I’m having a very frustrating time with my MacPro running El Capitan 
>>> 10.11.16.  About 2 months ago, I found I was unable to search for emails 
>>> sent and received in the search bar.  I work from home and daily need to 
>>> locate older received / sent emails.  As you can imagine, it literally 
>>> takes me hours to locate a particular email.
>>> 
>>> I also have an imac running Mojave - the mail used to operate just fine 
>>> until recently and now it deletes all incoming and outgoing emails approx a 
>>> month old. 
>>> 
>>> Would be grateful if anyone can give me direction.
>>> 
>>> Jewels
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>> 
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MAIL PROBLEMS

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

I’m having a very frustrating time with my MacPro running El Capitan 10.11.16.  
About 2 months ago, I found I was unable to search for emails sent and received 
in the search bar.  I work from home and daily need to locate older received / 
sent emails.  As you can imagine, it literally takes me hours to locate a 
particular email.

I also have an imac running Mojave - the mail used to operate just fine until 
recently and now it deletes all incoming and outgoing emails approx a month 
old. 

Would be grateful if anyone can give me direction.

Jewels
 
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Re: Has Anyone Any Suggestions? MYOB AccountEdge

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Alex

Many thanks for your email.  Bernard from the WAMUG list contacted me and gave 
me his consultant’s number and I called and made an meeting with him tomorrow.  
Wish I could have gotten hold of you beforehand.   

Hopefully I’ll get it sorted tomorrow, if not, I’ll definitely give you a call.

Much appreciate your offer

Cheers
Jewels

> On 19 Jun 2019, at 11:19 PM, Alex  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> you may be referring to me in your email below - I am/was an MYOB consultant, 
> use Macs myself, although most of my work is with the Dark Side.
> 
> It would be best if you contact me on my mobile, 0439 388 669, so we can 
> discuss this more efficiently.  (Preferably later in the day if that suits 
> you)
> 
> My opinion is that it should not be particularly difficult - the 
> functionality is pretty similar between both platforms, and I expect the 
> process will be basically the same.
> 
> Cheers,  Alex
> 
>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 2:00 pm, Julie Bedford > <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Neil,
>> 
>> Many thanks for your detailed email and you have done well to accomplish 
>> what you have achieved so far.  
>> 
>> Problem for me is that I work for myself - my biggest client (who is also a 
>> friend) has a large roofing company and employs around 13 guys, so that 
>> definitely puts me in the category of having to be on this new STP system 
>> unfortunately.  I have spent hours on the phone to MYOB who flatly say there 
>> are no webinars for training for Account Edge.  They have suggested I do the 
>> PC version, but have been warned it will not help me set my Mac up for this 
>> - I guess only to gain an understanding of the system in general.  They did 
>> put me onto people who could help, but when I called them I was told they 
>> had no experience in Mac, so that was a waste of time.  
>> 
>> Every year I pay Mac for the upgrades and their support and have been told 
>> this webinar will cost $150 (for the PC training).  When I speak to anyone 
>> at MYOB, they do not appear to have any experience in MYOB.  I am most 
>> definitely not a happy person about this.
>> 
>> I have tried all the alternatives you suggest, including the MYOB community, 
>> without success.  I recall a few years ago a member of WAMUG sounded as 
>> though he had good experience in MYOB and was hoping he would pick up my 
>> initial email and respond.  Sadly, I cannot recall his name though.
>> 
>> I’ve been using MYOB for years and work alongside a firm of accountants who 
>> also use MYOB, so I cannot really move to another system.  Also, I really do 
>> not have time on my hands to learn a different system before the end of this 
>> month.
>> 
>> I guess I’ll continue hunting for someone to assist me.  Many thanks again 
>> for taking the time to reply to me Neil.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 19 Jun 2019, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton >> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels,
>>> 
>>> First off - I do not have any experience of MYOB - so this is just more 
>>> general thoughts on your problem.
>>> 
>>> I run my own SMSF and do my own investing and accounting (except I need an 
>>> independent audit) but I am not an accountant (pre-retirement I was an 
>>> engineer.)
>>> 
>>> Since I try and do everything paperless, I have had to learn how to 
>>> interface with the ATO to lodge tax returns, do TBAR reporting etc (but no 
>>> payroll reporting).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So some thoughts:
>>> 
>>> MYOB Resources:
>>> I presume you have already checked out the MYOB resources on this:
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/ <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/>> 
>>> seems to be the MAC specific help centre and 
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm 
>>> <http://help.myob.com.au/ae18/mac/new_features_7.001.htm>> seems to cover 
>>> STP and gives step by step instructions for the MAC which SEEM quite simple 
>>> - though I realise ( and have experienced) that things often become more 
>>> complicated when you actually try and follow simple instructions ;o(
>>> I also see that the MYOB community has an STP Q page 
>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA 
>>> <https://community.myob.com/t5/Single-Touch-Payroll-STP-Q-A/bd-p/STPQnA>> 
>>> which includes MAC related Q
>>> I also see that they offer online support and live chat

Re: Has Anyone Any Suggestions? MYOB AccountEdge

[Julie Bedford]

eir desktop app and install Java - 
> and not just the standard OSX deployment - from memory Java Runtime 
> environment (JRE) and Java Development Kit (JDK) were required.
> As I say, this may have no relevance to you except to highlight that you CAN 
> use separate systems to lodge direct to the ATO than you use for your 
> day-to-day accounting.
> 
> 
> 
> So, I don't know if that is much help or not. Assuming you are already happy 
> with MYOB account edge, I would probably just work through the MYOB 
> MAC-specific instructions and see how easy (or not) it is. - and not be 
> afraid of making use of their online support/chat/community if problems 
> arise. However, that's just how I work ;o)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  on behalf of Julie 
> Bedford 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2019 at 22:04
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: Has Anyone Any Suggestions?
> 
> 
>Hi all,
> 
>I’m wondering if there is anyone in the group who could help me out.  I 
> desperately need some training or help with STP in MYOB AccountEdge.
>The ATO has made it compulsory for me to commence using their Single Touch 
> Payroll (STP)  system as of 1 July.  I cannot locate anyone with some 
> knowledge of this in the Mac system.  I understand MYOB do hold training 
> seminars for PC users, but not for MAC and I have been warned these two
>systems are very different.   I thought I would ask the group if they have 
> any ideas.
> 
>Many thanks
> 
>Jewels
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Has Anyone Any Suggestions?

[Julie Bedford]

Hi all,

I’m wondering if there is anyone in the group who could help me out.  I 
desperately need some training or help with STP in MYOB AccountEdge.
The ATO has made it compulsory for me to commence using their Single Touch 
Payroll (STP)  system as of 1 July.  I cannot locate anyone with some knowledge 
of this in the Mac system.  I understand MYOB do hold training seminars for PC 
users, but not for MAC and I have been warned these two
systems are very different.   I thought I would ask the group if they have any 
ideas.

Many thanks

Jewels
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Re: IMAC PASSWORD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Philippe

Many thanks for the instructions.  I’ll do this later, as a heap of work to get 
through at the moment.

You make it sound very straight forward - just what I need.

Thanks again
Julie

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 6:36 PM, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie, 
> 
> If you click on the Apple Logo on the top left hand corner, then navigate to:
> 
> -  System Preferences
> -  Users & Groups
> -  Under ‘Current User’ column ensure your Name (Admin) is highlighted
> -  On right hand column choose Password when you will see next to your name a 
> ‘Change Password …’ button. Click on it.
> -   A window will appear showing:  Old Password (leave blank), New password: 
> Enter your password there, Verify: Enter the same password, Password hint: 
> Enter something that will remind you of the password e.g. name of your first 
> dog or whatever is relevant to the chosen password. 
> 
> This should do the trick. 
> 
> Good luck & best regards, 
> 
> Philippe Chaperon
> Philippe dit la Grenouille ...
> 
> On 18 Jun 2019, at 10:36 am, Julie Bedford  <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> I know what you are saying, but when my friend was setting the network etc up 
> for me, I wasn’t around so he just left it blank.  I work from home, so other 
> than someone breaking in, I wasn’t too worried.  However, I would like to put 
> a password in,  How do I do this?  I would need to change from the blank to a 
> password.
> 
> Thanks Ronni
> 
> Julie
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ronni Brown > <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I’m amazed that you don’t use a Password on your Administrator Account on 
>> your Work iMac? 
>> Anyone gets hold of your iMac they can access everything on your computer...
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 10:59 pm, Julie Bedford >> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I sussed it, simply by shutting down and re-starting.  I’m gobsmacked that 
>>> Mojave has retained all my bookmarks, mail and all folders/documents as 
>>> they were in El Capitan.  I’m hoping that saying all is good and working 
>>> how it should ?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 9:54 PM, Julie Bedford >>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Hope someone can help me.  I was using El Capitan on my work Imac.  When a 
>>>> friend set this up for me he left the Password blank, so when I logged on, 
>>>>  I would just leave it blank and hit on the Owl to open.  Today I upgraded 
>>>> the O/S to Mojave and it will not accept a blank password.  Any 
>>>> suggestions on what I can do please.
>>>> 
>>>> In desperation
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
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Re: IMAC PASSWORD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni,
I know what you are saying, but when my friend was setting the network etc up 
for me, I wasn’t around so he just left it blank.  I work from home, so other 
than someone breaking in, I wasn’t too worried.  However, I would like to put a 
password in,  How do I do this?  I would need to change from the blank to a 
password.

Thanks Ronni

Julie

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie,
> 
> I’m amazed that you don’t use a Password on your Administrator Account on 
> your Work iMac? 
> Anyone gets hold of your iMac they can access everything on your computer...
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 10:59 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I sussed it, simply by shutting down and re-starting.  I’m gobsmacked that 
>> Mojave has retained all my bookmarks, mail and all folders/documents as they 
>> were in El Capitan.  I’m hoping that saying all is good and working how it 
>> should ?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 9:54 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Hope someone can help me.  I was using El Capitan on my work Imac.  When a 
>>> friend set this up for me he left the Password blank, so when I logged on,  
>>> I would just leave it blank and hit on the Owl to open.  Today I upgraded 
>>> the O/S to Mojave and it will not accept a blank password.  Any suggestions 
>>> on what I can do please.
>>> 
>>> In desperation
>>> Jewels
>>> 
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Re: IMAC PASSWORD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

I sussed it, simply by shutting down and re-starting.  I’m gobsmacked that 
Mojave has retained all my bookmarks, mail and all folders/documents as they 
were in El Capitan.  I’m hoping that saying all is good and working how it 
should ?

Cheers
Jewels

> On 17 Jun 2019, at 9:54 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Hope someone can help me.  I was using El Capitan on my work Imac.  When a 
> friend set this up for me he left the Password blank, so when I logged on,  I 
> would just leave it blank and hit on the Owl to open.  Today I upgraded the 
> O/S to Mojave and it will not accept a blank password.  Any suggestions on 
> what I can do please.
> 
> In desperation
> Jewels
> 

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IMAC PASSWORD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

Hope someone can help me.  I was using El Capitan on my work Imac.  When a 
friend set this up for me he left the Password blank, so when I logged on,  I 
would just leave it blank and hit on the Owl to open.  Today I upgraded the O/S 
to Mojave and it will not accept a blank password.  Any suggestions on what I 
can do please.

In desperation
Jewels

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Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

You may have a valid point there.  There are a few podcasts I download 
regularly.  I do not use icloud though.  Rarely use dropbox or photo syncing.  
I’ll download whatsize and see what I come up with. 

I need to have a good look at this when I’ve finished up with my work a little 
later. 

Thank you for all your suggestions - much appreciated.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> You could also have something like the following, which I have seen before 
> (thought a bit harder to “locate” without seeing the machine.
> - A corrupt log file. (an invisible hidden system file). It fills up and 
> should delete itself when not needed. But I’ve seen them fill up. Then a 
> restart clears some, until it starts filling the log up again and using 
> space. (sometimes in GBs of data).
> - a program that downloads updates / episodes /podcasts etc. Have seen 
> various ones of these, that once it deletes some, it goes and downloads new 
> ones. Therefor constantly always filling up space and removing it.
> - iCloud syncing of various files.
> - Photo syncing of various sizes
> - Dropbox large files.
> 
> Just a few off the top of my head. There are quite a few others that can also 
> affect it.
> 
> You could try Whatsize, as it sometimes help locate files that can be causing 
> issues.
> https://whatsizemac.com
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
> 
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> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:28 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Susan,
>> 
>> Like you, I keep my larger files, such as movies, photos etc on externals - 
>> even loaded my itunes on a separate hard drive which is still internal (but 
>> I have those spare drive spaces in my MacPro)  I just have my work files on 
>> the SSD and if they get too big, I then transfer them onto an external HD.  
>> Thing is it never used to happen so often as it does now.  I can do a 
>> restart and get 5gb spare back on the hard drive, whereas before doing the 
>> restart I would have maybe 200mb.  I would clear the cache before 
>> restarting, but it only gives me back say  300mb.  One day I just happened 
>> to glance at the capacity of the HD (showing on the bottom of the finder 
>> display) and I watched it going down and yet I was not using my computer at 
>> all.   Maybe I have a haunted MacPro !!
>> 
>> I just put up with it until I thought about asking WAMUG today.Yes I am 
>> speaking of HD memory and not RAM.  I have 16gb of RAM and that seems to 
>> work ok for me.
>> 
>> I thought there maybe something wrong with the SSD, but I have always found 
>> HDs either work or fail.  It did not seem normal to me either.  Guess I’ll 
>> put up with it until towards the end of the year when hopefully Apple will 
>> offer a great Mac Pro.  Out of interest, do you think it wise to rebuild my 
>> Mac ?  I’m guessing it will work with the new OSes for the next few years.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>>> problems with the HD filling up.
>>> 
>>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>>> on the internal HD.
>>> 
>>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>>> 
>>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking 
>>> about memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Susan
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>>>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>>&

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

I need to digest your email below - it sounds a good idea on having two drives 
raided together, but in the meantime I took note of the message and it says my 
"Startup disk is full.   To make more space available on your startup disk, 
delete some files.”
Why does this message  not appear when I first start up ?  It usually happens 
after about an hour or two of working.  The files I normally generate are word 
or excel, so would not have thought not huge amounts of space are being eaten 
up.   
Perhaps I need to do a clean install, which I was trying to hold off to later 
in the year.  Or maybe transfer some files onto another HD.  I actually thought 
it was the cache or something else which was eating up the space.   

I must apologise Susan, I initially said it was memory and not start up disk 
space.  

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:51 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> As Susan has mentioned, is the error message your’e getting saying “you’re 
> out of memory” or  “your startup disk is getting low on space”.
> As both are different things.
> 
> 
> The MacPro has 4 hard drive bays, so you do have the option to “increase” 
> storage if it needs it. It’s also possible to a) use the SSD for the boot 
> up/system, but then use a standard Hard Drive for storage or b) create a 
> “Fusion Drive” (Core Storage drive) to combine both an SSD and a normal Hard 
> Drive together, to give speed plus storage. (e.g. using an SSD plus say a 
> 2-3TB drive and make it into one drive which shows as 2.25TB. Or even c) have 
> two drives raided together in various ways.
> So plenty of options there.
> 
> If however, it’s relating to low memory, then just adding more RAM/memory to 
> the machine, can also help with more Apps running as well. These days you 
> want to have at least 8GB RAM minimum I find, as the OS (Operating System) 
> wants to use more also. So having at least 8GB or 16GB is preferable.
> 
> You should be able to look under About this Mac in the Apple menu to see how 
> much RAM is there.
> You can also see what is being used (and when and where) by going into 
> Applications - Utilities and opening Activity Monitor. Click on Memory and 
> have it to the side as you’re doing things. You’ll then see Apps are using a 
> lot and if it’s going over what it has built in.
> 
> Without going into a lot of details, the  new system will “never” (in theory) 
> run out of memory, as it borrows it from the HDD (or SSD), to keep the 
> computer going,…but this does tend to slow things down. So rather then doing 
> things that way, it’s always better to have more built in memory then using 
> it that way and running out of memory.
> 
> Hope that all helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
> 
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> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>> problems with the HD filling up.
>> 
>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>> on the internal HD.
>> 
>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>> 
>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking about 
>> memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>> 
>> Cheers, Susan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>>> rebuild the 

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Susan,

Like you, I keep my larger files, such as movies, photos etc on externals - 
even loaded my itunes on a separate hard drive which is still internal (but I 
have those spare drive spaces in my MacPro)  I just have my work files on the 
SSD and if they get too big, I then transfer them onto an external HD.  Thing 
is it never used to happen so often as it does now.  I can do a restart and get 
5gb spare back on the hard drive, whereas before doing the restart I would have 
maybe 200mb.  I would clear the cache before restarting, but it only gives me 
back say  300mb.  One day I just happened to glance at the capacity of the HD 
(showing on the bottom of the finder display) and I watched it going down and 
yet I was not using my computer at all.   Maybe I have a haunted MacPro !!

I just put up with it until I thought about asking WAMUG today.Yes I am 
speaking of HD memory and not RAM.  I have 16gb of RAM and that seems to work 
ok for me.

I thought there maybe something wrong with the SSD, but I have always found HDs 
either work or fail.  It did not seem normal to me either.  Guess I’ll put up 
with it until towards the end of the year when hopefully Apple will offer a 
great Mac Pro.  Out of interest, do you think it wise to rebuild my Mac ?  I’m 
guessing it will work with the new OSes for the next few years.

Cheers
Jewels


> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store a 
> lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
> problems with the HD filling up.
> 
> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not on 
> the internal HD.
> 
> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me you 
> don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 246GB 
> HD is quite a lot of space.
> 
> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking about 
> memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
> 
> Cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Susan
>> 
>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>> rebuild the MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro 
>> later on in the year.  However, I suspect one will be
>> limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I 
>> use various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not 
>> using, but still doesn’t make a difference. 
>> 
>> This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 2:06 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you 
>>> are using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and go 
>>> to ‘get info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here so 
>>> that people can offer practical solutions.
>>> 
>>> At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
>>> applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
>>> external HD to free up space on your main HD.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. 
>>>> (El Capitan)
>>>> 
>>>> Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
>>>> memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
>>>> until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be 
>>>> around 4 gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
>>>> available HD space diminish.
>>>> 
>>>> It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
>>>> something just to regain the HD space. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
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Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Susan

Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD which 
I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to rebuild the 
MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro later on in the 
year.  However, I suspect one will be
limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I use 
various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not using, but 
still doesn’t make a difference. 

 This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 2:06 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you 
> are using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and go 
> to ‘get info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here so that 
> people can offer practical solutions.
> 
> At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
> applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
> external HD to free up space on your main HD.
> 
> Cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. 
>> (El Capitan)
>> 
>> Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
>> memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
>> until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be around 
>> 4 gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
>> available HD space diminish.
>> 
>> It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
>> something just to regain the HD space. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
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MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. (El 
Capitan)

Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be around 4 
gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
available HD space diminish.

It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
something just to regain the HD space. 

Thanks

Jewels

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Re: CDs not playing

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Barry
Just a thought - last year I was having problems similar to this on my itunes 
(El Capitan) After a lot of messing around, I did a disc check on the internal 
hard disc where I have my itunes.  I recall a few errors appeared, so I 
replaced the hard drive and transferred itunes onto it and all is working fine 
now.  Just my two bob’s worth.

Good luck
Jewels

> On 27 Dec 2018, at 12:06 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> 
>> From: Daniel Kerr mailto:danielk...@me.com>>
>> Subject: Re: CDs not playing
>> Date: 27 December 2018 at 11:16:44 am AWST
>> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> 
>> Hi Barry
>> 
>> Silly question,..but do you have the iTunes volume up? There are two volume 
>> controls. One on the computer itself, and one in iTunes. beside the 
>> play/pause button. You need to ensure this is turned right up to a higher 
>> volume.
>> Secondly, also ensure that the “speakers” aren’t being sent to somewhere 
>> else. (as you can have it playing out via the computer, or out via something 
>> else). e.g. you can play the sound via the computer or via external speakers.
>> Check those things as well, just incase.
>> Worth an ask as I’ve had those happen to people as well.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
> 
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> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Daniel Kerr mailto:danielk...@me.com>>
>> Subject: Re: CDs not playing
>> Date: 27 December 2018 at 11:16:44 am AWST
>> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> 
>> Hi Barry
>> 
>> Silly question,..but do you have the iTunes volume up? There are two volume 
>> controls. One on the computer itself, and one in iTunes. beside the 
>> play/pause button. You need to ensure this is turned right up to a higher 
>> volume.
>> Secondly, also ensure that the “speakers” aren’t being sent to somewhere 
>> else. (as you can have it playing out via the computer, or out via something 
>> else). e.g. you can play the sound via the computer or via external speakers.
>> Check those things as well, just incase.
>> Worth an ask as I’ve had those happen to people as well.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Dec 2018, at 11:06 am, Barry Sexstone >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes Peter it does offer to import.  I have tried importing one track, it 
>>> appears to import as that track appears in the library but also doesn’t 
>>> play.  It looks to me to be possibly an encoding problem but I am not sure. 
>>>  Barry
>>> 
 On 27 Dec 2018, at 10:31 am, Peter Hinchliffe >>> > wrote:
 
 Does iTunes offer to import the tracks when you insert the CD?
 
> On 26 Dec 2018, at 2:59 pm, kal...@iinet.net.au 
>  wrote:
> 
> Barry,
> 
> guess you have tried a different CD?
> 
> Kevin Lock
> 
>> On 26 Dec 2018, at 2:15 pm, Barry Sexstone > > wrote:
>> 
>> Suddenly I am unable to play music CDs through my Mac.  On inserting a 
>> CD into the external drive Itunes opens and the track list of the CD is 
>> shown but iTunes will not play any of the tracks.  Previously I have had 
>> no problems playing CDs.  I doubt the problem is the player as it 
>> happily plays DVDs.  Any thoughts or advice?
>> 
>> Barry
>> 
>> iMac 27in late 2014
>> OS 10.14.2
>> iTunes 12.9.2.5
>> external player “Archgon” DVD/CD player
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Re: Password problem update

[Julie Bedford]

Diana,

Could you please let us know the URL address

Thanks
Jewels
> On 21 Nov 2018, at 7:17 AM, Diana & Graham Stevens  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat
> 
> Why don’t you ring Apple support. They solved my password problem when I got 
> no answers. I rang in the late afternoon and got through very quickly. The 
> man also sent me the URL so I could find it again plus some other useful URLs.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Diana
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 21 Nov 2018, at 6:37 am, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Pat, if you change your Apple password, it is universal. That becomes the 
>> password you use with your Apple ID and the new password will have to be 
>> used for all of your devices. It’s not a bug. Just make sure that you are 
>> using the same password on all of your devices.
>> 
>> When you change the password on your computer and it doesn’t ‘work’ does the 
>> same new password work on your other devices?
>> 
>> Cheers, Susan.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 20 Nov 2018, at 10:13 pm, Patricia Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have now supposedly reset my password 3 times, except none of them have 
>>> worked. Apple ‘support’ has not helped at all. The automated system does 
>>> not target the right objectives. It drags in my phone and iPad and tries to 
>>> make new passwords for them, when it is the computer that needs it.
>>> 
>>> I asked for a chat; the response was, we will get to you in 2 minutes. 20 
>>> minutes later it blanked out. Another page asked for the serial number. I 
>>> assumed they meant for the computer. I found the number on the bottom and 
>>> duly typed it in. Message came up: “this is not a valid serial number”. But 
>>> it is.
>>> 
>>> So I am hoping WAMUG has some better advice. 
>>> 
>>> Hopefully,
>>> Pat
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[Julie Bedford]

I also would like to know how to do this too !
Thanks
Jewels

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 2:07 PM, Patricia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Dear WAmuggers,
> 
> I changed the PW for my desktop computer yesterday. Today I tried to start 
> the computer, but the PW was ‘wrong’. 
> 
> I looked for help on the Apple website, and followed the convoluted 
> instructions to make a new PW. But the new PW doesn’t work — or does it take 
> more time?
> 
> My phone and iPad were involved in this process as well, so I am not sure 
> which devices use the new password or what I should do next.
> 
> Pat
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Re: Smarty pants Mail.app keeps changing address

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Philippe,
I too was also looking for a way to do this.

Jewels
> On 20 Aug 2018, at 6:31 PM, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat, 
> 
> This is how it is done: 
> 
> Delete old email addresses
> Mail keeps a list of your previous recipients and uses it to suggest or 
> complete addresses for you when you send email. You can delete obsolete or 
> incorrect addresses from the list in Mail, and use the list to quickly see or 
> add people to the Contacts app.
> 
> In Mail, choose Window > Previous Recipients.
> Do any of the following:
> Sort the list: Click a column header.
> Search for a name: Enter the name in the search field. 
> Remove a name from the list: Select one or more names, then click Remove From 
> List.
> Show a name in Contacts: Double-click any name that’s preceded by a card icon.
> Add a name to Contacts: Select a name, then click Add to Contacts.
> 
> 
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mail/delete-old-email-addresses-mlhlp1113/mac
>  
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Philippe Chaperon
> 
> On 20 Aug 2018, at 6:06 pm, Pat  > wrote:
> 
> I just wrote a letter to my sister; when I tried to put her new address on 
> the letter, the app kept changing it back to an old, obsolete address.  The 
> new address is in the Contact app and the old address has been removed. The 
> new address wouldn’t stick even when I typed it in by hand. Is there a 
> solution for this? I would rather not get a different mail app.
> 
> TIA,
> Pat
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Email problem

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

Hoping someone can enlighten me ….
I had a call from one of our contractors today saying that he had received an 
email from me yesterday, which was not for him.  When I checked it out, I 
didn’t send him an email.  He said something similar happened last year.   
Could this be a virus ?  I use El Capitan  and have held back upgrading to the 
latest OS.  Is there any software  out there to rid me of this virus, if that 
is what it is.  Incidentally I have never sent this contractor an email, so his 
address would not be in my system. 

Thanks
Jewels

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Re: Keyboard

[Julie Bedford]

I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after it 
dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go caput. 
Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions robin.
It would be just plain water then?

Thanks
jewels
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
> Severin
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” 
>> was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
>> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
>> 
>> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
>> days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
>> therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
>> need a spare.
>> Do not use any dish soap.
>> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
>> not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. 
>> Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
>> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
>> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
>> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
>> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
>> and wash just the keyboard.
>> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
>> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
>> and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
 keyboard
 
 First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
 replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
 prowess. 
 
 The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
 one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force and 
 angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
 flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
 need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
 
 Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning liquid 
 and water, rinsed and dried
 
 The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
 ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
 
 Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using the 
 photo as a guide. 
 
 I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
 seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
 
 This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
 printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. There 
 are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. They fall 
 onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may be required 
 to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you dismantle the 
 electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in the wrong way, 
 my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the most stringent 
 assessment of my wife. 
 
 I hope this helps
 
 Tim
 
 Sent from Tim's iPhone
 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp > wrote:
 
> My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
> keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like 
> within range.  
> Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping 
> it that way
> Many thanks
> Severin Crisp
> 
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Re: DAS Keyboards for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Stephen

Ordered the keyboard on 1 Dec, received on 4 Dec - can’t ask much better than 
that.

I’ve got it hooked up on the iMac and it performs brilliantly - and feels just 
like the old days.   The last time my typing speed was tested, it was around 
105 a minute, but could not type this speed ever on the white keyboard.  
Pleased I purchased the brown version, as that makes a little noise, so dread 
to think how loud the clicky blue one is.  Also love the volume dial on the 
keyboard.

Many thanks for the recommendation.  It looks like it will last years due to 
the German technology.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 4:43 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie.
> I have the MX Brown for Mac
> The MX Blue is the clicky one (more noisy I believe).
> 
> My old iMac is being used now by my wife with the Apple wired keyboard.
> If I use that now the difference is amazing.
> Don’t like Apple keyboards any more !!
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 11:40 am, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Stephen, I ordered the brown one last night from Amazon  - as it did seem 
>> the cheaper alternative - rather expensive though, so I hope
>> it lives up to it’s name.  Just wondering if it would work on my 2012 MacPro 
>> with a USB2.  If not, I’ll use it on my iMac, so it won’t be a problem.
>> 
>> Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll let you know my thoughts when I receive 
>> it.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did and I absolutely love it Julie.
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 12:42 am, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you 
>>>> finding it ?
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>>>> But still no feedback on the DAS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback 
>>>>> from the keys.
>>>>> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
>>>>> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal 
>>>>> to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 
>>>>>> a couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
>>>>>> using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is 
>>>>>> still a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid->
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyo

Re: DAS Keyboards for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Stephen, I ordered the brown one last night from Amazon  - as it did seem the 
cheaper alternative - rather expensive though, so I hope
it lives up to it’s name.  Just wondering if it would work on my 2012 MacPro 
with a USB2.  If not, I’ll use it on my iMac, so it won’t be a problem.

Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll let you know my thoughts when I receive it.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> I did and I absolutely love it Julie.
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 12:42 am, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> 
>> Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you 
>> finding it ?
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>> But still no feedback on the DAS.
>>> 
>>> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback 
>>> from the keys.
>>> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
>>> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal 
>>> to me.
>>> 
>>> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> 
>>>> When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 a 
>>>> couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
>>>> 
>>>> I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
>>>> using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is 
>>>> still a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with it.
>>>> But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
>>>> 
>>>> You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid->
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyone any experience 
>>>>> with DAS Keyboards?” means that no WAMUG members have used them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I may nominate myself as the Guinea Pig and order one when I order my 
>>>>> new iMac.
>>>>> I shall provide feedback when the time comes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephen Chape
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>>> 
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Re: New DAS Keyboard for Mac (Brown keys)

[Julie Bedford]

Apologies Stephen,
just went back through the emails and you did give your stamp of approval.
As it is German made, I am sure it is still functioning like new.

Jewels

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 6:48 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Okay, will do.
> I’ve never heard of these keyboards, but it appears there was an earlier 
> version out
> back in 2012.  It certainly looks a good sturdy keyboard - much like the once 
> we used
> at least a decade ago !
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Jewels
>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> One more thing.
>> Make sure it is the Mac version.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:55 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> Any recommendation on where to order ?  It looks a good option to me
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I got one of the above about a month ago.
>>>> I am absolutely wrapped.
>>>> It is great to use a proper keyboard again.
>>>> 
>>>> My typing is faster and far fewer typo’s.
>>>> And I can hear it.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not like those flat keyboards from Apple.
>>>> I would recommend the DAS.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: DAS Keyboards for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Stephen

Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you finding 
it ?

Jewels

> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronni.
> But still no feedback on the DAS.
> 
> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
> 
> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback from 
> the keys.
> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal to 
> me.
> 
> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
> 
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 a 
>> couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
>> 
>> I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
>> using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is still 
>> a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with it.
>> But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
>> 
>> You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyone any experience with 
>>> DAS Keyboards?” means that no WAMUG members have used them.
>>> 
>>> So I may nominate myself as the Guinea Pig and order one when I order my 
>>> new iMac.
>>> I shall provide feedback when the time comes.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
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Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks from me too Daniel.  I was aware of the trash oddity, it can be a 
little misleading.  To be honest, I’ve not even noticed exFAT, but next time I 
wish to transfer a file over 2GBs, I will certainly follow your suggestion.  

Cheers
Jewels
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got 
> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email 
> in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol.
> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system 
> then you should be ok with exFAT in that case.
> 
> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or 
> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB 
> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from.  I 
> use that when moving files too big to email. :)
> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel.
>> Thank you for your extensive information.
>> 
>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files 
>> above 2GB in size.
>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
>> 
>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen and all,….
>>> 
>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible.
>>> 
>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
>>> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although 
>>> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as 
>>> they’re sitting in the drive.
>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have 
>>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.
>>> 
>>> To try and explain this another way.
>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the 
>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives 
>>> or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the 
>>> “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon 
>>> to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will 
>>> be empty.
>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
>>> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
>>> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These 
>>> items would belong to the Trash.
>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if 
>>> you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to 
>>> the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the 
>>> Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the 
>>> drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on 
>>> the external drive).
>>> 
>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I 
>>> know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as 
>>> the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are 
>>> “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each 
>>> drive is completely free when I plug it in).
>>> 
>>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, 
>>> but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as 
>>> things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t 
>>> realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”.
>>> 
>>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers 
>>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) 
>>> format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the 
>>> “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32).
>>> 
>>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it 
>>> makes sense,…hehe).
>>> 
>>> Kind 

Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Julie Bedford]

I too have had this in the past and would be interested to know how to format

Thanks
Jewels
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:45 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Rob.
> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
> It does not show up in Disk Utility.
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
>> 
>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
>> can't remember the name... FAT?
>> 
>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB
>> 
>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or in 
>> a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
>>> The file is 2.23GB.
>>> 
>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is 
>>> too large for the drives”.
>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.
>>> 
>>> But I cannot understand what happened.
>>> Any ideas please folks ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: ITUNES CRASHING

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for your suggestion.  I did do this last night and the only plug-in was 
one  belonging to the software upgrade I had downloaded earlier, so I trashed 
it plus the software I downloaded - trying
to think of all the possible offenders.  I re-started the Mac and iTunes still 
crashed.  My last resort was to download the latest version of iTunes (I was 
only was off the latest) - and it worked !  The
only thing I can think of is some file of iTunes somehow was deleted.  I am 
sure I would not have done that though.

I was beginning to think that iTunes will stop working unless one upgrades to 
the latest version.  However, that would be a first.

I would be interested if you have any ideas, when you have the time as it is 
not urgent.

Many thanks

Jewels

> On 23 Nov 2017, at 9:29 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> To rule out if a third party plug-in or script is the cause. 
> Start iTunes in Safe Mode on your Mac, here is how.
> Hold down the Option and Command keys on your keyboard while you launch 
> iTunes. iTunes will start in Safe Mode. 
> You will be see a pop up message saying “iTunes is running in safe mode. 
> Visual plug-ins you have installed have been temporarily disabled.” Click 
> “Continue”. 
> If iTunes is working properly without any issue in safe mode, a third party 
> iTunes add-on is causing this problem. iTunes add-ons can be found in this 
> folder: ~/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins/. 
> To find out the problematic add-on, close iTunes, and move the add-ons to 
> your desktop one at a time temporarily. 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2017, at 4:11 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Wonder if anyone can assist.
>> 
>> I have a Mac Pro (mid 2012) running El Capitan - itunes was working fine 
>> until a few days ago.
>> Now unable to open.  I recall the same day this happened I downloaded a few 
>> upgrades from
>> Ondesoft, being Itunes Converter and Audio Book Converter.
>> 
>> Have tried all the suggestions on the web, without success.
>> 
>> Any suggestions ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
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ITUNES CRASHING

[Julie Bedford]

Hi All,

Wonder if anyone can assist.

I have a Mac Pro (mid 2012) running El Capitan - itunes was working fine until 
a few days ago.
Now unable to open.  I recall the same day this happened I downloaded a few 
upgrades from
Ondesoft, being Itunes Converter and Audio Book Converter.

Have tried all the suggestions on the web, without success.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks
Jewels

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Re: New DAS Keyboard for Mac (Brown keys)

[Julie Bedford]

Okay, will do.
I’ve never heard of these keyboards, but it appears there was an earlier 
version out
back in 2012.  It certainly looks a good sturdy keyboard - much like the once 
we used
at least a decade ago !

Thanks again

Jewels
> On 20 Sep 2017, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> One more thing.
> Make sure it is the Mac version.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:55 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> Any recommendation on where to order ?  It looks a good option to me
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I got one of the above about a month ago.
>>> I am absolutely wrapped.
>>> It is great to use a proper keyboard again.
>>> 
>>> My typing is faster and far fewer typo’s.
>>> And I can hear it.
>>> 
>>> I do not like those flat keyboards from Apple.
>>> I would recommend the DAS.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: New DAS Keyboard for Mac (Brown keys)

[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks Steve.
That’s a good price from Amazon.

Yes, I gathered there were the two types and assume you have the quiet one.  
I think I’ll go for the same brown key from Amazon.  They have great reviews 
too.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> I got prices from Australian suppliers that were close to $300 by the time 
> the delivery was added.
> But I ordered from Amazon USA for about $230 delivered.
> Only took about 10 days to arrive.
> 
> Be cautious.
> There is a “blue key” and a “brown key”.
> The “brown key" is clicky but quiet.
> I have heard the “blue key” is very noisy.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:55 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> Any recommendation on where to order ?  It looks a good option to me
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I got one of the above about a month ago.
>>> I am absolutely wrapped.
>>> It is great to use a proper keyboard again.
>>> 
>>> My typing is faster and far fewer typo’s.
>>> And I can hear it.
>>> 
>>> I do not like those flat keyboards from Apple.
>>> I would recommend the DAS.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: New DAS Keyboard for Mac (Brown keys)

[Julie Bedford]

Steve,
Any recommendation on where to order ?  It looks a good option to me

Thanks
Jewels

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I got one of the above about a month ago.
> I am absolutely wrapped.
> It is great to use a proper keyboard again.
> 
> My typing is faster and far fewer typo’s.
> And I can hear it.
> 
> I do not like those flat keyboards from Apple.
> I would recommend the DAS.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronnie

So sorry for my rudeness on not replying until now - have been caught up with 
urgent work.

I did delete the temp files and since I have perhaps added 5 files into iTunes 
- so far so good !!  I had almost a gb of temp files.
Hopefully my iTunes will run okay again.

Once again, thank you for your invaluable assistance !

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Aug 2017, at 8:04 AM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> Is iTunes working any better after you deleted all the Temp files as per my 
> previous reply?
> 
> Some temp files are caches for interrupted downloads for things you had 
> purchased that developed an error during media purchase downloads. That 
> didn't completely download properly. 
> 
> Other temp files are error dump files that can cause iTunes to not run 
> properly.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 27 Aug 2017, at 11:12 am, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni, 
>> 
>> No rush, I’m just grateful you are there to assist us all.
>> 
>> Have a great day
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2017, at 8:47 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels,
>>> 
>>> I'm rushing out for the day so won't be able to help until later today.
>>> But it sounds like you might have some old Library folders still in your 
>>> Home/Music/iTunes folder.
>>> 
>>> Temp Files from iTunes are created when the software cannot write to one or 
>>> more of the Library Files.
>>> You may have some permissions issues, or another program is locking up the 
>>> ability to write to the .itl file
>>> iTunes writes them to update the iTunes library file.
>>> They should NOT stay after the file is updated.
>>> 
>>> You should be able to delete all of the .tmp files after you QUIT iTunes.
>>> 
>>> Gotta rush, if you need help earlier someone else might be able to help.
>>> Otherwise I'll get back later today/tonight.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 10:41 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Ronnie,
>>>> I guess I’ll give it a go when next adding files - I did this earlier 
>>>> today unfortunately.  I will let you know how I get on.
>>>> 
>>>> iTunes is still stopping and starting when playing something on the Mac - 
>>>> any remedy you can think of ?
>>>> 
>>>> In the iTunes Library I see a vast number of temp files - I am unable to 
>>>> open them - would it be safe to delete do you think ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for both of your suggestions and help
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:50 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jewels, 
>>>>> I think what Peter was saying is try my 2nd suggestion of the 3 ways to 
>>>>> get Files into iTunes I gave previously.
>>>>> In iTunes 
>>>>> * Choose File > Add to Library (Command-O) and select files or folders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:30 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion Pete.  
>>>>>> I think what Ronni suggested was that I go to the iTunes folder / 
>>>>>> library, locate the relevant folder and drop in directly ?  I have 
>>>>>> numerous folders in iTunes, each for the relevant subject or website 
>>>>>> podcast.  It would take me ages to do it that way I feel and is easier 
>>>>>> just to reformat them in my iskysoft software.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just played around with an offending file, being careful  not to 
>>>>>> touch any other folder on the way to iTunes, but still the same problem. 
>>>>>>  I have been loading up my iTunes since the early 2000’s and never had 
>>>>>> such a problem.  When iTunes will not quit, I have to do a restart, 
>>>>>> which interrupts the other jobs I am doing at the time a

Re: ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Ronni, 

No rush, I’m just grateful you are there to assist us all.

Have a great day

Cheers
Jewels

> On 27 Aug 2017, at 8:47 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> I'm rushing out for the day so won't be able to help until later today.
> But it sounds like you might have some old Library folders still in your 
> Home/Music/iTunes folder.
> 
> Temp Files from iTunes are created when the software cannot write to one or 
> more of the Library Files.
> You may have some permissions issues, or another program is locking up the 
> ability to write to the .itl file
> iTunes writes them to update the iTunes library file.
> They should NOT stay after the file is updated.
> 
> You should be able to delete all of the .tmp files after you QUIT iTunes.
> 
> Gotta rush, if you need help earlier someone else might be able to help.
> Otherwise I'll get back later today/tonight.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 26 Aug 2017, at 10:41 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronnie,
>> I guess I’ll give it a go when next adding files - I did this earlier today 
>> unfortunately.  I will let you know how I get on.
>> 
>> iTunes is still stopping and starting when playing something on the Mac - 
>> any remedy you can think of ?
>> 
>> In the iTunes Library I see a vast number of temp files - I am unable to 
>> open them - would it be safe to delete do you think ?
>> 
>> Thanks for both of your suggestions and help
>> 
>> Jewels
>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:50 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels, 
>>> I think what Peter was saying is try my 2nd suggestion of the 3 ways to get 
>>> Files into iTunes I gave previously.
>>> In iTunes 
>>> * Choose File > Add to Library (Command-O) and select files or folders.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:30 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion Pete.  
>>>> I think what Ronni suggested was that I go to the iTunes folder / library, 
>>>> locate the relevant folder and drop in directly ?  I have numerous folders 
>>>> in iTunes, each for the relevant subject or website podcast.  It would 
>>>> take me ages to do it that way I feel and is easier just to reformat them 
>>>> in my iskysoft software.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have just played around with an offending file, being careful  not to 
>>>> touch any other folder on the way to iTunes, but still the same problem.  
>>>> I have been loading up my iTunes since the early 2000’s and never had such 
>>>> a problem.  When iTunes will not quit, I have to do a restart, which 
>>>> interrupts the other jobs I am doing at the time and have to restart them 
>>>> again once the Mac has restarted.  
>>>> 
>>>> On what I have gathered from the web, many people are experiencing 
>>>> problems now with iTunes, I think I must be just one of them.  I would 
>>>> really like to go back to the older version of iTunes, when it was 
>>>> operating perfectly, but not sure if that is really viable.  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> 
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 5:19 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewels, this is a long shot. During the drag/drop process into iTunes, is 
>>>>> it possible your mouse is passing over a potential drop point (some other 
>>>>> folder on the way to the intended folder) that is making OSX jam up. If 
>>>>> you do the menu driven import method (Ronni suggested this below) that 
>>>>> would at least eliminate that as a possible reason for the hang ups. I 
>>>>> have this problem with Windows Explorer at my work and use other methods 
>>>>> as a result (Import process or Copy/Paste).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 4:07 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>>>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks for your email Ronni.
>>>

Re: ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Ronnie,
I guess I’ll give it a go when next adding files - I did this earlier today 
unfortunately.  I will let you know how I get on.

iTunes is still stopping and starting when playing something on the Mac - any 
remedy you can think of ?

In the iTunes Library I see a vast number of temp files - I am unable to open 
them - would it be safe to delete do you think ?

Thanks for both of your suggestions and help

Jewels
> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:50 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels, 
> I think what Peter was saying is try my 2nd suggestion of the 3 ways to get 
> Files into iTunes I gave previously.
> In iTunes 
> * Choose File > Add to Library (Command-O) and select files or folders.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 26 Aug 2017, at 8:30 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion Pete.  
>> I think what Ronni suggested was that I go to the iTunes folder / library, 
>> locate the relevant folder and drop in directly ?  I have numerous folders 
>> in iTunes, each for the relevant subject or website podcast.  It would take 
>> me ages to do it that way I feel and is easier just to reformat them in my 
>> iskysoft software.  
>> 
>> I have just played around with an offending file, being careful  not to 
>> touch any other folder on the way to iTunes, but still the same problem.  I 
>> have been loading up my iTunes since the early 2000’s and never had such a 
>> problem.  When iTunes will not quit, I have to do a restart, which 
>> interrupts the other jobs I am doing at the time and have to restart them 
>> again once the Mac has restarted.  
>> 
>> On what I have gathered from the web, many people are experiencing problems 
>> now with iTunes, I think I must be just one of them.  I would really like to 
>> go back to the older version of iTunes, when it was operating perfectly, but 
>> not sure if that is really viable.  
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 5:19 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jewels, this is a long shot. During the drag/drop process into iTunes, is 
>>> it possible your mouse is passing over a potential drop point (some other 
>>> folder on the way to the intended folder) that is making OSX jam up. If you 
>>> do the menu driven import method (Ronni suggested this below) that would at 
>>> least eliminate that as a possible reason for the hang ups. I have this 
>>> problem with Windows Explorer at my work and use other methods as a result 
>>> (Import process or Copy/Paste).
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete.
>>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 4:07 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for your email Ronni.
>>>> 
>>>> I have iTunes 12.6.2 installed - but would mention it was the update 
>>>> before this one when I started experiencing the problems.  Never a problem 
>>>> previously.
>>>> 
>>>> I log on to a website and download their latest interviews (of which I am 
>>>> a subscriber) - no problem there.  I have always just dragged the mp3 file 
>>>> from the Downloads folder and placed in the relevant folder on my iTunes.  
>>>> I then later usually transfer these onto my classic ipod - no problems 
>>>> with the ipod.  Sometimes the mp3 I have dragged onto iTune freezes iTunes 
>>>> and am unable often to do a Force Quit, so have to shutdown and restart 
>>>> the Mac.  I have recently noticed also that when playing from iTunes on 
>>>> the Mac, it now stops and starts - perhaps a 10 second time of silence and 
>>>> then it returns playing.
>>>> 
>>>> I have my iTunes library etc on a dedicated 2GB hard drive, which I 
>>>> installed into my Mac Pro - it is not an external hanging from a USB cord.
>>>> 
>>>> I tend to keep most of the mp3s in the iTunes library for future 
>>>> reference.  Of course, when the disc gets full, I will have to think about 
>>>> backing some files up on another hard drive for safe keeping.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been having better luck when transferring the mp3 files onto 
>>>> iSkysoft iMedia Converter Deluxe - for reformatting.  Basically I’m just 
>>>> reformatting an mp3 into an  mp3, as I suspect maybe the original file has 
>>

Re: ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks for the suggestion Pete.  
I think what Ronni suggested was that I go to the iTunes folder / library, 
locate the relevant folder and drop in directly ?  I have numerous folders in 
iTunes, each for the relevant subject or website podcast.  It would take me 
ages to do it that way I feel and is easier just to reformat them in my 
iskysoft software.  

I have just played around with an offending file, being careful  not to touch 
any other folder on the way to iTunes, but still the same problem.  I have been 
loading up my iTunes since the early 2000’s and never had such a problem.  When 
iTunes will not quit, I have to do a restart, which interrupts the other jobs I 
am doing at the time and have to restart them again once the Mac has restarted. 
 

On what I have gathered from the web, many people are experiencing problems now 
with iTunes, I think I must be just one of them.  I would really like to go 
back to the older version of iTunes, when it was operating perfectly, but not 
sure if that is really viable.  

Thanks 

Jewels

> On 26 Aug 2017, at 5:19 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Jewels, this is a long shot. During the drag/drop process into iTunes, is it 
> possible your mouse is passing over a potential drop point (some other folder 
> on the way to the intended folder) that is making OSX jam up. If you do the 
> menu driven import method (Ronni suggested this below) that would at least 
> eliminate that as a possible reason for the hang ups. I have this problem 
> with Windows Explorer at my work and use other methods as a result (Import 
> process or Copy/Paste).
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete.
>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 4:07 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Many thanks for your email Ronni.
>> 
>> I have iTunes 12.6.2 installed - but would mention it was the update before 
>> this one when I started experiencing the problems.  Never a problem 
>> previously.
>> 
>> I log on to a website and download their latest interviews (of which I am a 
>> subscriber) - no problem there.  I have always just dragged the mp3 file 
>> from the Downloads folder and placed in the relevant folder on my iTunes.  I 
>> then later usually transfer these onto my classic ipod - no problems with 
>> the ipod.  Sometimes the mp3 I have dragged onto iTune freezes iTunes and am 
>> unable often to do a Force Quit, so have to shutdown and restart the Mac.  I 
>> have recently noticed also that when playing from iTunes on the Mac, it now 
>> stops and starts - perhaps a 10 second time of silence and then it returns 
>> playing.
>> 
>> I have my iTunes library etc on a dedicated 2GB hard drive, which I 
>> installed into my Mac Pro - it is not an external hanging from a USB cord.
>> 
>> I tend to keep most of the mp3s in the iTunes library for future reference.  
>> Of course, when the disc gets full, I will have to think about backing some 
>> files up on another hard drive for safe keeping.
>> 
>> I have been having better luck when transferring the mp3 files onto iSkysoft 
>> iMedia Converter Deluxe - for reformatting.  Basically I’m just reformatting 
>> an mp3 into an  mp3, as I suspect maybe the original file has something 
>> which iTunes does not like and the re-format eliminates it.  This process 
>> 98% of the time works.
>> 
>> I have searched the web for a solution without success, but have come across 
>> numerous people who are having the same or similar problems.  
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2017, at 3:34 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels,
>>> 
>>> A) How are you trying to Add these MP3 files into iTunes?
>>> 
>>> You can add them to iTunes in many ways:
>>> 
>>> * Drop them—either grouped or in a folder—on the iTunes icon.
>>> 
>>> * Choose File > Add to Library (Command-O) and select files or folders.
>>> 
>>> *Drop them in the Automatically Add to iTunes folder. This is located in 
>>> the iTunes Media folder, which by default is in your Music folder. iTunes 
>>> adds any new content in this “watched” folder to your iTunes library and 
>>> then deletes it from the folder.
>>> 
>>> B) What format were the original downloaded files, and what ‘program’ have 
>>> you used to convert the files to MP3?
>>> You can convert audio files in iTunes to other formats.
>>> "I have run the problematic mp3s
>>> through a program which reformats to an mp3, which usually works, but n

Re: ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks for your email Ronni.

I have iTunes 12.6.2 installed - but would mention it was the update before 
this one when I started experiencing the problems.  Never a problem previously.

I log on to a website and download their latest interviews (of which I am a 
subscriber) - no problem there.  I have always just dragged the mp3 file from 
the Downloads folder and placed in the relevant folder on my iTunes.  I then 
later usually transfer these onto my classic ipod - no problems with the ipod.  
Sometimes the mp3 I have dragged onto iTune freezes iTunes and am unable often 
to do a Force Quit, so have to shutdown and restart the Mac.  I have recently 
noticed also that when playing from iTunes on the Mac, it now stops and starts 
- perhaps a 10 second time of silence and then it returns playing.

I have my iTunes library etc on a dedicated 2GB hard drive, which I installed 
into my Mac Pro - it is not an external hanging from a USB cord.

I tend to keep most of the mp3s in the iTunes library for future reference.  Of 
course, when the disc gets full, I will have to think about backing some files 
up on another hard drive for safe keeping.

I have been having better luck when transferring the mp3 files onto iSkysoft 
iMedia Converter Deluxe - for reformatting.  Basically I’m just reformatting an 
mp3 into an  mp3, as I suspect maybe the original file has something which 
iTunes does not like and the re-format eliminates it.  This process 98% of the 
time works.

I have searched the web for a solution without success, but have come across 
numerous people who are having the same or similar problems.  

Cheers
Jewels

> On 26 Aug 2017, at 3:34 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> A) How are you trying to Add these MP3 files into iTunes?
> 
> You can add them to iTunes in many ways:
> 
> * Drop them—either grouped or in a folder—on the iTunes icon.
> 
> * Choose File > Add to Library (Command-O) and select files or folders.
> 
> *Drop them in the Automatically Add to iTunes folder. This is located in the 
> iTunes Media folder, which by default is in your Music folder. iTunes adds 
> any new content in this “watched” folder to your iTunes library and then 
> deletes it from the folder.
> 
> B) What format were the original downloaded files, and what ‘program’ have 
> you used to convert the files to MP3?
> You can convert audio files in iTunes to other formats.
> "I have run the problematic mp3s
> through a program which reformats to an mp3, which usually works, but not 
> always.” 
> 
> C) Are you using iTunes 12.6.2?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2017, at 11:00 pm, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> I have been having the following problem since doing one of the itune 
>> updates.
>> 
>> I download a number of talks from various sites I am a member of - basically 
>> mp3s.
>> I do not have a problem downloading, but do when trying to transfer into 
>> itunes.  iTunes
>> freezes and usually I am unable to do a force quit and have to do a restart.
>> 
>> It is not every file I put into itunes, but enough to really be annoying.  
>> I’ve tried the
>> various suggestions on the net without any success.  The last suggestion was 
>> MacKeeper,
>> but I resisted as I know Ronnie’s opinion on this software.  I have run the 
>> problematic mp3s
>> through a program which reformats to an mp3, which usually works, but not 
>> always.  
>> 
>> I’m currently running El Capitan OS.  
>> 
>> Looking forward to any suggestions
>> 
>> Jewels
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ITUNES PROBLEM

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
I have been having the following problem since doing one of the itune updates.

I download a number of talks from various sites I am a member of - basically 
mp3s.
I do not have a problem downloading, but do when trying to transfer into 
itunes.  iTunes
freezes and usually I am unable to do a force quit and have to do a restart.

It is not every file I put into itunes, but enough to really be annoying.  I’ve 
tried the
various suggestions on the net without any success.  The last suggestion was 
MacKeeper,
but I resisted as I know Ronnie’s opinion on this software.  I have run the 
problematic mp3s
through a program which reformats to an mp3, which usually works, but not 
always.  

I’m currently running El Capitan OS.  

Looking forward to any suggestions

Jewels
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Re: DAS Keyboards for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Stephen,

If it’s of any help, Macworx in Joondalup have a number of wired keyboards in 
stock.  After reading your email, I have
just purchased two from them

Cheers
Jewels
> On 13 Jun 2017, at 10:06 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Has anyone had the opportunity to use one of these ?
> I am thinking of buying to use with my new iMac when I make the jump.
> I am NOT happy with Apple dumping their wired keyboards and have been looking 
> at the DAS for some time anyway.
> 
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated please.
> 
> I see two new Mac models have recently been released.
> One is a “clicky” and the other is quiet.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
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Re: Time Capsule green light

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Barry

When my Capsule flashes the orange light, I download the update and then it 
goes back to green.  Hope that helps

Cheers
Jewels

> On 4 Jan 2017, at 4:24 PM, Barry Sexstone  wrote:
> 
> Peter
> 
> I have an Airport Express which has been exhibited a similar problem over the 
> last couple of months.  The green light changes to a flashing orange but 
> everything else behaves normally.  Sometimes I get fed up with it flashing 
> and reset it by turning it off and then on again but it seems unnecessary.  I 
> am on ADSL2 not NBN.
> I will be interested in other’s comments
> 
> Regards
> 
> Barry
> iMac Retina 5K 27"
> Intel Core i5 3.5 GHz 
> 8 GB RAM
> 1.0 TB HD
> OS X 10.12.2
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>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 3:52 pm, Peter Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Happy New Year to you all, I have a Time Capsule I have had for ~6 years now 
>> and it has been bulletproof, even with an up sized 3TB drive. Recently I 
>> have converted to the "Malcolm Turnbull" NBN and it has been pretty much an 
>> improved service. I have noticed however, since the change to NBN, my TC 
>> green light has frequently gone to the orange flashing light. It may be 
>> coincidence that it seems to coincide with the NBN swap but I see online 
>> that the most plausible cause is the need for a firmware update. Is this 
>> something that others have experienced?
>> 
>> It behaves 100% as it has normally behaved with all Time machine backups 
>> working and all streaming and network functions to AppleTV etc behaving as 
>> normal so there is nothing out of order in operability in the house.
>> 
>> Anyone have any occurrence like this themselves and is the firmware update a 
>> cinch? I also have an apple airport Express functioning as an extender which 
>> also is behaving as normal but it's indicator light has remained green the 
>> whole time during pre and post NBN installation.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
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Re: Attachments

[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks Ronni
I have already tried doing as you suggested and many time my boss is unable to 
open and read.  He has a PC (dare I use that word) and I have to admit
he is not very fluent with computers.  I usually end up having to go back to 
him, separating the files so he can read them.  Saying that though, sometimes
he is able to open the folder and see what’s inside.

I’m gathering then that there is not a way of attaching as I used to.  It is 
also the same when I receive attachments.  Hopefully in the next OS, they will
deal with this.  I think the software writer for Attachment Tamer gave up, as 
Apple are updating their OS so quickly these days.

Thanks again Ronni

Cheers
Jewels

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 3:12 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> Why don’t you send a folder containing all the files?
> 
> 1. Create a New Folder on your Desktop. File > New Folder or Command+Shift+N 
> 
> 2. Give the folder a Title and drag& drop the files you wish to send as 
> attachments into the new folder.
> 
> 3. Open Mail - create your message and add the folder containing the files as 
> an attachment.
> 
> You can Get Info (command-i) on the folder before attaching in an email to 
> see what size it is.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 1:34 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ 
>> which used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since 
>> upgrading to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has 
>> decided not to continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a 
>> document, it is opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous 
>> attachments ie drawings etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person 
>> who receives the email.  Is there anyway I could attach documents with just 
>> their icon showing - eg a pdf file ?  
>> 
>> Hope that makes sense
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
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Fwd: Attachments

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ which 
used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since upgrading 
to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has decided not to 
continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a document, it is 
opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous attachments ie drawings 
etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person who receives the email.  
Is there anyway I could attach documents with just their icon showing - eg a 
pdf file ?  

Hope that makes sense

Thanks
Jewels

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Re: Final Call - Subscription & AGM

[Julie Bedford]

Maureen
I’m probably becoming paranoid - but I paid my fees a few months ago.  Just 
wondering is there a list which shows who are paid up members ?
Rather than pester you to check on my behalf ?

Cheers

Julie Underwood


> On 8 Mar 2016, at 8:45 PM, Maureen Smith  wrote:
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> Hi Rosemary,
> 
> I haven’t received anything, so I am checking with the Treasurer.
> 
> I will get back to you ASAP.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Maureen
> 
>> On 7 Mar 2016, at 3:17 pm, Rosemary Spark > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Maureen,
>> Did you get an email form me saying I'd paid my AGM fee?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Rosemary Spark
>> 
>> Rosemary Spark
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Marcus
Just my two bob's worth.
I've used a couple of email archivers programs in the past and like yourself, 
found it confusing  to display the contents.
I recently purchased Mail Archiver X and cannot say enough good things about 
this program.  When one opens the archived file, 
it is displayed as almost identical to the original mailbox, showing the 
contents of your 'In Box', mail boxes etc.  Also one can schedule
a time when to archive. I understand it also utilises Filemaker, if required.   
I am ashamed to say I have some 35gb of mail archived, so 
the first run took a while.

I have contacted the developers (who appear to reside in Germany) on a couple 
of occasions and they have always replied to
my queries in a prompt concise way.

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Jewels


On 19/01/2016, at 12:42 PM, Marcus F Harris wrote:

> I have to clean out my mail box in which I accumulated thousands of emails.
> I would prefer to archive them as some are useful records.
> 
> I used the  “Export Mail” process and that produced a folder INBOX.mbox. It’s 
> 2.8Gb
> However, I can’t see how the contents —info.plist;mbox and table of contents 
> will regenerate a full set of email messages. 
> 
> I tried re-opening the mbox with Text Edit, but it was garbage.
> 
> Am I missing something obvious or should I just buy “mailSTEWARD” ?
> 
> CHEERS
> Marcus
> Marcus F Harris
> cryptodo...@me.com
> Marcus F Harris
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Re: YouTube downloaded for OS El Cspitan

[Julie Bedford]

HI Brian
Jaksta has been taken over by Applian.  They are offering a good discount for 
previous Jaksta licence owners.
I need to upgrade my OS before I can download it and try it out, so cannot say 
whether its as good as Jaksta.
Would appreciate if you could let me know if you go ahead.

I've been using ClipGrab, which is good for downloading Youtube videos.  I 
think they only ask for donations..

Jewels
On 24/11/2015, at 2:03 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi all
> Is there a recommended application for downloading a video from YouTube. My 
> Jaksta application isn't working.
> 
> Brian
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Re: Tuesday's Meeting

[Julie Bedford]

Gosh that is a great idea but can understand if not feasible

Jewels

On 03/08/2015, at 6:42 PM, Marcus F Harris wrote:

 Hi Maureen,
 Any chance of video of the presentation for members who can't get to meetings?
 Cheers
 Marcus 
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
 
 On 2 Aug 2015, at 1:49 pm, Maureen Smith topsm...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
 
 The winter solstice has passed and we can now look forward to the  balmier 
 nights and days of Spring. According to my iPhone weather app, Tuesday will 
 be partly cloudy with a maximum of 18  a mimimum,of 7. With no predicted 
 rain, hail or snow, hopefully you will be able to make it to our monthly 
 meeting.
 
 This month is ”PDF month” with our topics chosen ‘just because’. We will be 
 looking at Flip PDF - changing your PDF documents into stunning booklets. 
 Could be just the thing to save your child’s art work rather than cluttering 
 up the fridge. We will also examine PDF to Keynote for mac - if you want to 
 have the said art work as a keynote presentation to run in the background at 
 their 21st - and we will have quick look at using Preview to make memes.
 
 There will be a few other tips  tricks to be shown - some you may know some 
 hopefully new,
 
 Looking forward to seeing as many as you as possible .
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
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NO BROWSER

[Julie Bedford]

Hi

All was working fine earlier today, now I am unable to use Safari or Firefox - 
when trying to connect I get The proxy server is refusing connections  - 
however I can send and receive email.  Any suggestions.  I have not tampered 
with any cables.
(OS 10.7.5 - Mac Pro)

Cheers
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Re: NO BROWSER

[Julie Bedford]

Ronni

You are an absolute godsend - seriously.
All fixed !!

Thank you

Jewels
On 04/06/2015, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Jewels,
 
 Go to System Preferences  Network - select your connection then click 
 'Advanced'
 The click the Proxies button and make sure NOTHING is selected here.
 Click OK
 
 See if that fixes your issue.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 4 Jun 2015, at 2:51 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 All was working fine earlier today, now I am unable to use Safari or Firefox 
 - when trying to connect I get The proxy server is refusing connections  - 
 however I can send and receive email.  Any suggestions.  I have not tampered 
 with any cables.
 (OS 10.7.5 - Mac Pro)
 
 Cheers
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Re: NO BROWSER

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Geoff,

Just saw your reply - thanks for the suggestion.  I didn't know that mail does 
not go through a proxy server. 
The Proxies on the network had two items ticked - no idea why, but know now to 
ensure they are all left
unticked if I have problems in that area in the future.  It's amazing how much 
one learns on this list.

Thanks again

Jewels

On 04/06/2015, at 4:06 PM, Kaye and Geoff wrote:

 Hi Julie and Ronni
 
 On 04/06/2015, at 3:51 PM, Julie Bedford wrote:
 
 You are an absolute godsend - seriously.
 All fixed !!
 
 
 I have just seen Ronni's reply, and it seems that I was mistaken in thinking 
 that the problem was not with your computer. Our ISP, as far as I know, 
 enforces the use of a proxy no matter what settings you have in your browser.
 
 Regards
 
 Geoff
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Re: Annual Subscription Update

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

I'm a bit late, but paid my annual subs this evening and attach the bank's 
confirmation.

Keep up the great work !!

Cheers
Julie Bedford (Jewels)

On 10/01/2015, at 7:19 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Some people may still get an auto-reply that says something like you can't 
 post to this list. 
 It's not that you can't post to the WAMUG list, it's referring to the 
 internal committee list we have (which is where the membership address 
 forwards to). 
 We still get the advice to say it's paid, so no stress there, as I deal with 
 all the bounce messages, spam, junk etc etc that generates a bounce message. 
 I spent an hour or so today sorting some of it out, but there's still a few 
 teething issues.
 
 But yes, we'll get your payment advice and yes you're still subscribed to 
 WAMUG. 
 We won't just kick you off :)) We're nice like that. We give it a bit of time 
 before changing moderation flags to non-post. :)) So all is good. 
 
 I'll be relooking at some of it tonight when home again. 
 
 But hopefully all will be much easier down the track. 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 10 Jan 2015, at 7:09 pm, Maureen Smith topsm...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 Hopefully that glitch has now been fixed. (See Daniel’s emails) Can you try 
 again?
 When  it comes to all things technical I willingly defer to the 'higher 
 powers,’ in this case Daniel. 
 
 Thanks for the notice and for your patience.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Maureen
 
 
 On 10 Jan 2015, at 11:33 am, Maureen Smith topsm...@internode.on.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Fellow WWW’s (Weally Wonderful WAMUGGERS) ,
 
 The 'new’ address has been sorted for  those who are subscribing or 
 renewing their WAMUG subscriptions via electronic transfer.
 
 On the website details have changed to -
  
 Please email a copy of the remittance advice by clicking here. 
 This will assist in identifying and confirming any request you make to post 
 to the Mailing List”
 
 The magic “here” will ensure your remittance advice is sent to the new 
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 Many thanks to Daniel for setting up this piece of technology.
 
 Thank-you for your cooperation and let the good times roll.
 
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SUBSCRIPTION

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
I suspect I'm either late or early again - can anyone let me know when the subs 
are due
to be renewed ?  Still $30 I presume.

Many thanks

Jewels

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Re: SUBSCRIPTION

[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks Ronni,
I'll be renewing.

CHeers
Jewels

On 04/01/2015, at 5:51 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Jewels,
 The WAMUG subscription year runs for the calendar year from 1 January to 31 
 December.
 
 General List Membership – $30/yr
 
 http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
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 Hi
 I suspect I'm either late or early again - can anyone let me know when the 
 subs are due
 to be renewed ?  Still $30 I presume.
 
 Many thanks
 
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Re: Converting epub to pdf

[Julie Bedford]

I've been using :
anicesoft EPUB Converter for a while now and it performs perfectly.  I am sure 
its a freebie as I do not recall
ever paying for it.  It has a choice of  formats too.

Cheers
Jewels

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 Hi Peter  WAMUG'gers, 
 
 I have never done this, but this link will take you to the EPUB Converter for 
 Mac which apparently will do it for you: 
 
 http://epub-converter-mac.en.softonic.com/mac
 
 Not sure of its price, but I am sure there could be a free one somewhere. 
 
 
 Good luck  Happy New Year to all.
 
 Philippe 
 
 On 27 Dec 2014, at 10:07 am, Peter Curtis pe...@augold.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone
 I hope there was Christmas cheer for al.
 Can anyone recommend a epub to pdf converter?
 Kind regards
 Peter
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Re: IKEA catalog

[Julie Bedford]

Yes, I have to agree too

On 05/09/2014, at 2:51 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 Excellant 
 
 
 On 5 Sep 2014, at 1:23 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 A laugh for Friday... I found this brilliantly funny!
 
 I've had the IKEA catalog for awhile ... I will view it with a different 
 attitude now ;-))
 
 http://time.com/3265308/ikea-catalog-2015/
 
 Have a laugh and enjoy your weekend.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Another Device on the Network

[Julie Bedford]

Hi all,

I was typing an email and the following box popped up on my screen.  No one 
else was on the network at
the time.  Any suggestions ?

Another device on the network is using your computer’s IP address (10.1.1.4).
Try connecting again later. If you continue to have problems, change the IP 
address of this computer or the IP address of the other device. Contact the 
network administrator if you need more information.

I clicked on the ? on the box, but it went to a page saying the selected 
topic is currently unavailable.

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Re: Another Device on the Network

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni,

I followed your instructions via the Systems Preferences.  
I had thought it could be some external source attempting to log on to me and 
then thought - Virus !!

Once again Ronni, you've solved my problem.  A great many thanks for solving my 
dilemma. 

Cheers
Jewels

On 26/05/2014, at 2:19 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Julie,
 
 This happens sometimes with the DHCP server, which mistakenly assigns the 
 same IP address to two devices, but don’t blame your router. An iPad, and 
 iPhone is often the culprit, it seems these iOS devices like to maintain the 
 same IP address and will attempt to force themselves onto the same IP that 
 they had previously been assigned.
 
 The easiest solution is to just reset the router, but that can be a pain 
 depending on your access to the router itself. If resetting the router is a 
 no go, you can 'renew your DHCP lease' in OS X through the Network settings 
 System Preferences  Network - select Wi-Fi - click Advanced   then TCP/IP  
 - then click 'Renew DHCP Lease'
 Click OK
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 May 2014, at 2:06 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was typing an email and the following box popped up on my screen.  No one 
 else was on the network at
 the time.  Any suggestions ?
 
 Another device on the network is using your computer’s IP address 
 (10.1.1.4).
 Try connecting again later. If you continue to have problems, change the IP 
 address of this computer or the IP address of the other device. Contact the 
 network administrator if you need more information.
 
 I clicked on the ? on the box, but it went to a page saying the selected 
 topic is currently unavailable.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Possible security breach

[Julie Bedford]

David,
I received the same last night and immediately notified iinet.   It may be 
pertinent to change
passwords etc.  Good luck

Jewels

On 21/05/2014, at 9:19 AM, David Nicholas wrote:

 I’m worried I might have let a rogue into my system.
 
 I received the following email purporting to be from iinet.
 
 Welcome to iiNet,
 
 There was an issue with your last subscription Due to system upgrade and 
 webmail upgrade to Zimbra. Please use any of the below methods to update your 
 contact and billing information. 
 
 Failure to update will avert to service suspension.
 
 UPDATE YOUR PAYMENT METHOD
 
 Update your credit card
 Click this link to update or change the credit card you use to pay for your 
 iiNet service every month.
 
 MAKE A ONE TIME PAYMENT
 
 Make a One Time Payment
 Make a One Time Payment.
 
 View your customer agreement
 View or print a copy of your iiNet customer agreement.
 
 
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I was incautious because very recently I had upgraded to Naked.  I didn’t 
 look closely at the sender until just after I had clicked on the link.  It 
 didn’t load straight away so then I did look and saw it had nothing to do 
 with iinet.
 
 I closed my machine, but of course to send this request for advice I had to 
 reboot it, which means I had to use my system password.
 
 Is there anything I can do to check the security of my stuff?
 
 David Nicholas
 
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Re: Possible security breach

[Julie Bedford]

Hi David,
You may be already aware, but I think it is Applications / Utilities / Key 
Chain Access.  Not sure if
that is where you need to go though, may be best to wait for our gurus to 
enlighten us !

Jewels
On 21/05/2014, at 10:32 AM, David Nicholas wrote:

 Hi Jewels
 
 That was a good suggestion.
 
 I changed my Password, rebooted and found I got into my machine without my 
 Password!!
 
 I’ve since checked that for example on Keychain I need to enter my changed 
 Password to access items.  So, it seems to be only on a Boot that the 
 Password is bypassed.
 
 How can it be switched off or on?  
 Does anybody know where the requirement for the Password is located?
 
 David
 
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 David,
 I received the same last night and immediately notified iinet.   It may be 
 pertinent to change
 passwords etc.  Good luck
 
 Jewels
 
 On 21/05/2014, at 9:19 AM, David Nicholas wrote:
 
 I’m worried I might have let a rogue into my system.
 
 I received the following email purporting to be from iinet.
 
 Welcome to iiNet,
 
 There was an issue with your last subscription Due to system upgrade and 
 webmail upgrade to Zimbra. Please use any of the below methods to update 
 your contact and billing information. 
 
 Failure to update will avert to service suspension.
 
 UPDATE YOUR PAYMENT METHOD
 
 Update your credit card
 Click this link to update or change the credit card you use to pay for your 
 iiNet service every month.
 
 MAKE A ONE TIME PAYMENT
 
 Make a One Time Payment
 Make a One Time Payment.
 
 View your customer agreement
 View or print a copy of your iiNet customer agreement.
 
 
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I was incautious because very recently I had upgraded to Naked.  I didn’t 
 look closely at the sender until just after I had clicked on the link.  It 
 didn’t load straight away so then I did look and saw it had nothing to do 
 with iinet.
 
 I closed my machine, but of course to send this request for advice I had to 
 reboot it, which means I had to use my system password.
 
 Is there anything I can do to check the security of my stuff?
 
 David Nicholas
 
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 2 GHz Intel Core i7
 8GB 1600 MHz DDR3
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Re: Strange !

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Ronni for the confirmation

Cheers
Jewels

On 08/04/2014, at 11:56 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Yes Jewels you are fine,  and your message has come through to the list ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:51 am, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I can't recall who it was, but someone emailed advising that if subs had 
 been paid July onwards, they would not be due until July again ?  Did I 
 understand this correctly ?  Hence, I haven't paid
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 On 08/04/2014, at 11:40 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Well...Really!  
 WAMUG Subscriptions were due in January - The WAMUG subscription year runs 
 for the calendar year from 1 January to 31 December. 
 General List Membership – $30/yr
 
 Our WAMUG President posted a Final Reminder on Fri. 28 March 2014
 Re: List notice - Final Reminder
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/msg75544.html
 
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 9:56 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Everything in moderation Reg !!
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 8:33 pm, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 I haven't paid my fees yet. Maybe others too, so we're now moderated :-(
 
 Reg
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 4:53 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Very strange to go all day with no WAMUG posts !
 Is anybody alive out there ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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 Windows because my employer knew no better
 
 
 
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Re: Strange !

[Julie Bedford]

Hi all,
I can't recall who it was, but someone emailed advising that if subs had been 
paid July onwards, they would not be due until July again ?  Did I understand 
this correctly ?  Hence, I haven't paid

Cheers
Jewels
On 08/04/2014, at 11:40 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Well...Really!  
 WAMUG Subscriptions were due in January - The WAMUG subscription year runs 
 for the calendar year from 1 January to 31 December. 
 General List Membership – $30/yr
 
 Our WAMUG President posted a Final Reminder on Fri. 28 March 2014
 Re: List notice - Final Reminder
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/msg75544.html
 
 Ronni
 
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 On 7 Apr 2014, at 9:56 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Everything in moderation Reg !!
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 8:33 pm, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 I haven't paid my fees yet. Maybe others too, so we're now moderated :-(
 
 Reg
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 4:53 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Very strange to go all day with no WAMUG posts !
 Is anybody alive out there ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 Mac by choice
 Windows because my employer knew no better
 
 
 
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Re: Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation (Julie Bedford)

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni

Your friendly advice is well accepted and appreciated.
Have removed MacFuse and installed OSXFuse as directed.  I do have the most up 
to date
version of Disc Drill, but oddly it didn't install OSXFuse at the time of 
installing.

I hope you managed to take a break yesterday, seems like you are always there 
on call
for everyone.  

Thanks again
Jewels

On 03/03/2014, at 1:18 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

 Hi Jewels,
 
 A bit of friendly advice.
 Before installing any ‘Third-Party’ (non-Apple) Software make sure you:
 Know what the software does
 Know how to Install, Setup, and Use the software
 Know how to uninstall the software 
 
 Disk Drill Pro is file recovery software, it also offers a conventional drive 
 S.M.A.R.T monitoring toolset.
 
 First step to do is check: Do you have the latest version of Disk Drill Pro 
 installed?
 Perhaps you don't have the latest - as it should install OSXFUSE not MacFUSE.
 
 OSXFUSE is a successor to MacFUSE, (which has been unmaintained since 2008 
 and is not compatible with OS X 10.7)
 It shares most of its source code with MacFUSE.
 OSXFUSE supports Mac OS X 10.5 and later (Intel and PowerPC architecture). It 
 is fully compatible with 64-bit kernels and OS X 10.7.
 OSXFUSE is open source and under active development.
 
 Second Step - You need to Uninstall MacFUSE before installing OSXFUSE
 
 A) How can I uninstall MacFUSE?
 Open System Preferences and go to the MacFUSE preference pane. Click on the 
 Remove MacFUSE button. 
 
 This will uninstall all MacFUSE components except the preference pane itself.
 
 B)To remove it from the Preference Pane,  you remove it just like how you 
 would remove any other non-Apple preference pane: 
 
 In System Preferences, control-click (right-click) on the MacFUSE icon and 
 you will see Remove ... as an action.
 
 
 C) Then download  Install  OSXFUSE
 
 Install FUSE for OS X
 
 The recommended way to install FUSE for OS X is to download the latest 
 OSXFUSE-{version}.dmg available from http://osxfuse.github.com/ and 
 double-clicking on Install OSXFUSE {version}.
 
 How can I keep FUSE for OS X up-to-date?
 
 The tools to keep FUSE for OS X up-to-date (query the installed version, 
 query for available updates, download and install updates, and so on) are 
 built into FUSE for OS X. Simply launch the System Preferences 
 application and go to the FUSE for OS X preference pane. 
 It should tell you if there is and update and if so, will also let you 
 download and install it.
 
 Extra information:
 Update Disk Drill Pro 2 
 http://help.cleverfiles.com/how-to-upgrade-from-disk-drill-1-8-to-2-0/
 
 Disk Drill PRO
 http://help.cleverfiles.com/how-to-install-disk-drill/
 Disk Drill PRO
 http://help.cleverfiles.com/category/tutorials/
 
 http://www.macnn.com/reviews/disk-drill-pro-file-recovery-software.html
 
 I'm going to take a break now from WAMUG for what is left of the long 
 week-end ;o)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.2 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 3 Mar 2014, at 10:13 am, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 Good morning Ronni,
 
 When I started the computer this morning, this is what came up in a small 
 box:
 
 Internal module - updated required
 Your Mac has an older version of Fuse for OSX. Recover results may not be 
 mounted correctly.  Click to upgrade.
 
 I checked System Preference and I have MacFUSE  - should I uninstall then if 
 it is out of date and useless ?
 
 I dont appear to have OSXFUSE at least it doesn't show up in the System 
 Preferences.
 
 I think the following message originates from Disk Drill PRO program:
 Hardware issues detected
 Warning - seems to be having hardware issues and need your attention
 
 I purchased Disk Drill Pro recently - could that be more wasted money?  
 Should I uninstall this or
 has it any validity.  
 
 No urgency in replying - have Monday off !
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 
 
 
 On 03/03/2014, at 8:41 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Jewels,
 
 On 2 Mar 2014, at 8:54 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I did notice when I restarted my computer earlier that it is said I have 
 some hardware issues
 again.  Somethink about Fuse being outdated.  Not even sure what Fuse is.
 
 
 Exactly what was the message... was it related to MacFUSE or OSXFUSE ?
 
 MacFUSE, has been unmaintained since 2008  not compatible with OS X 10.7
 OSXFUSE is a successor to MacFUSE  is compatible with OS X 10.7
 
 Open System Preferences - go to the FUSE for OS X preference pane. 
 Click on 'Update OSXFUSE'  button 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation (Julie Bedford)

[Julie Bedford]

I didn't realise Stephen you had the same problem too.
I did notice when I restarted my computer earlier that it is said I have some 
hardware issues
again.  Somethink about Fuse being outdated.  Not even sure what Fuse is.

Cheers
Jewels
On 02/03/2014, at 7:51 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 I just uninstalled Virus Barrier, Net Barrier and Washing Machine.
 Phew …. I feel better already.
 
 On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:06 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Wow, your last email contained a lot of important information.  I'll keep it 
 safe for future reference and will not be purchasing any virus protection
 in future.  I guess I should upgrade from my OS 10.7 to 10.8 in order to 
 gain the extra protection too.  
 
 Thank you so much Ronni for your help.  I really appreciate the WAMUG site 
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 
 On 28/02/2014, at 9:18 PM, Julie Bedford wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 I realise now I shouldn't have jumped in on another thread.  Sorry about 
 that.
 
 I hadn't tried to uninstall as My Intego bundle as I thought it was a 2014, 
 but upon checking it is a 2013 version.
 I have done as you instructed and my Mac confirmed it is all correctly 
 uninstalled now.  Thank heavens.
 I think next time I decide to buy a virus barrier, I'll consult you first.
 
 Many thanks Ronni and my Safari now opens without a problem.
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 On 28/02/2014, at 4:52 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Jewels,
 
 I've changed the subject in case anyone needs to search the archives at 
 some time.
 
 Have you uninstalled the 'Mac Internet Security 2013' following the 
 instructions (with screenshots) in the link in my previous email?
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 If so, is Safari working properly again?
 
 Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation
 
 Uninstallation: 
 You will use the same installer you used to install your Intego software 
 to remove it. 
 1. Locate the disk image you downloaded from the Intego website and 
 double-click it to open it. 
 2. You will see the installer as you did when you installed the software. 
 Double-click the installer to start it. 
 3. One of the first options you see will ask you whether you are 
 installing or uninstalling the software. 
 4. Choose to uninstall the software and follow the instructions.
 
 If you are unable to locate the original disk image, download the software 
 again from the link I supplied previously
 This link:   
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:28 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 Apologise, I completely missed it.  
 Fortunately, I have not tried to uninstall the Intego software.  
 My OSX is 10.7.5. The Intego software consists of the following:
 Virus Barrier - version 10.7.8
 NetUpdate - version 10.7.4
 NetBarrier - version 10.7.5
 I purchased this within the last two weeks.   If I can get rid of this 
 and get my Safari 
 back working, I'll be happy.  I will then maybe check out the ClamXav.  
 
 Do you personally think it wise to have some form of protection ?
 
 Thanks 
 Jewels
 
 
 On 25/02/2014, at 11:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hello Jewels,
 
 I did reply to your first email and mentioned
 To help you with your current problem Jewels, we would require more 
 info... 
 Also the version of OS X  the correct name  version of the Intego 
 software you have installed. 
 
 How to Uninstall Intego 2013 Products
 How to Uninstall Software
 
 To properly uninstall your Intego software it is important that you use 
 the latest Installer for your software.  If you have manually attempted 
 to remove the software, you will need to first, reinstall the software 
 again, then use the Installer package to properly remove the 
 applications and NetUpdate icon from the menu bar.  If you do not have 
 an Intego Installer available you can download one from here:
 
 http://www.intego.com/support/downloads
 
 
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 25 Feb 2014, at 10:35 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Stephen,
 Just jumping in here.  I have the latest Virus Barrier which has so far 
 caused me a pain and now I am unable to open Safari at all.
 I am not sure if I uninstall Virus Barrier it will make any difference. 
  I would personally not recommend this program. I am on OS 10.7.5
 
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Re: Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation (Julie Bedford)

[Julie Bedford]

Good morning Ronni,

When I started the computer this morning, this is what came up in a small box:

 Internal module - updated required
Your Mac has an older version of Fuse for OSX. Recover results may not be 
mounted correctly.  Click to upgrade.

I checked System Preference and I have MacFUSE  - should I uninstall then if it 
is out of date and useless ?

I dont appear to have OSXFUSE at least it doesn't show up in the System 
Preferences.

I think the following message originates from Disk Drill PRO program:
Hardware issues detected
Warning - seems to be having hardware issues and need your attention

I purchased Disk Drill Pro recently - could that be more wasted money?  Should 
I uninstall this or
has it any validity.  

No urgency in replying - have Monday off !

Cheers
Jewels



On 03/03/2014, at 8:41 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Jewels,
 
 On 2 Mar 2014, at 8:54 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I did notice when I restarted my computer earlier that it is said I have 
 some hardware issues
 again.  Somethink about Fuse being outdated.  Not even sure what Fuse is.
 
 
 Exactly what was the message... was it related to MacFUSE or OSXFUSE ?
 
 MacFUSE, has been unmaintained since 2008  not compatible with OS X 10.7
 OSXFUSE is a successor to MacFUSE  is compatible with OS X 10.7
 
 Open System Preferences - go to the FUSE for OS X preference pane. 
 Click on 'Update OSXFUSE'  button 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation (Julie Bedford)

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Ronni
I realise now I shouldn't have jumped in on another thread.  Sorry about that.

I hadn't tried to uninstall as My Intego bundle as I thought it was a 2014, but 
upon checking it is a 2013 version.
I have done as you instructed and my Mac confirmed it is all correctly 
uninstalled now.  Thank heavens.
I think next time I decide to buy a virus barrier, I'll consult you first.

Many thanks Ronni and my Safari now opens without a problem.

Cheers
Jewels
On 28/02/2014, at 4:52 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

 Hi Jewels,
 
 I've changed the subject in case anyone needs to search the archives at some 
 time.
 
 Have you uninstalled the 'Mac Internet Security 2013' following the 
 instructions (with screenshots) in the link in my previous email?
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 If so, is Safari working properly again?
 
 Intego - 'Mac Internet Security 2013' - Uninstallation
 
 Uninstallation: 
 You will use the same installer you used to install your Intego software to 
 remove it. 
 1. Locate the disk image you downloaded from the Intego website and 
 double-click it to open it. 
 2. You will see the installer as you did when you installed the software. 
 Double-click the installer to start it. 
 3. One of the first options you see will ask you whether you are installing 
 or uninstalling the software. 
 4. Choose to uninstall the software and follow the instructions.
 
 If you are unable to locate the original disk image, download the software 
 again from the link I supplied previously
 This link:   
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:28 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 Apologise, I completely missed it.  
 Fortunately, I have not tried to uninstall the Intego software.  
 My OSX is 10.7.5. The Intego software consists of the following:
 Virus Barrier - version 10.7.8
 NetUpdate - version 10.7.4
 NetBarrier - version 10.7.5
 I purchased this within the last two weeks.   If I can get rid of this and 
 get my Safari 
 back working, I'll be happy.  I will then maybe check out the ClamXav.  
 
 Do you personally think it wise to have some form of protection ?
 
 Thanks 
 Jewels
 
 
 On 25/02/2014, at 11:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hello Jewels,
 
 I did reply to your first email and mentioned
 To help you with your current problem Jewels, we would require more 
 info... 
 Also the version of OS X  the correct name  version of the Intego 
 software you have installed. 
 
 How to Uninstall Intego 2013 Products
 How to Uninstall Software
 
 To properly uninstall your Intego software it is important that you use the 
 latest Installer for your software.  If you have manually attempted to 
 remove the software, you will need to first, reinstall the software again, 
 then use the Installer package to properly remove the applications and 
 NetUpdate icon from the menu bar.  If you do not have an Intego Installer 
 available you can download one from here:
 
 http://www.intego.com/support/downloads
 
 
 https://support.intego.com/entries/24937247-How-to-Uninstall-Intego-2013-Products#marketoID=undefined
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 25 Feb 2014, at 10:35 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Stephen,
 Just jumping in here.  I have the latest Virus Barrier which has so far 
 caused me a pain and now I am unable to open Safari at all.
 I am not sure if I uninstall Virus Barrier it will make any difference.  I 
 would personally not recommend this program. I am on OS 10.7.5
 
 Jewels
 
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