Re: Add border to photo using Preview

[Alan Smith]

Hi Peter

Thank you for testing the process.  Unfortunately I still cannot save a 
bordered jpeg image from Preview.  No difference between exporting and saving 
(or both).

By using the Photos app edit and markup function I could create, save, and 
export a jpeg file with a border, so I could complete my little project. 

Using Markup in Preview I can insert shapes, text and whatever - and simply 
save the file.  The markup is retained when the file is re-opened.  It is just 
the Borders feature that doesn’t save.  I tested it on three Macs - my normal 
2019 5K iMac and a 2014 Mac Mini (both with Mojave) and a 2009 iMac with High 
Sierra.  

The 2009 iMac displayed another problem with the autosave function, giving me 
another job for my spare time.  That is, after I clean up a collection of test 
files littering Photos and desktop.

> On 30 Sep 2019, at 9:18 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Sep 2019, at 11:51 am, Alan Smith > <mailto:sma...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>> I used the Markup tool in Preview to create a contrast border on a photo.
>> 
>> I save the JPG file but the border has disappeared when the file is reopened.
>> 
>> Any solution?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Alan
>> 
> 
> I just tried it here Alan. I opened an existing .jpg image and put a white 
> border around it using the Markup tools, just as you have. You don’t describe 
> the process you used to save your file, but I exported mine back as a .jpg 
> file, rather than just saving it. The border was still there when I opened it 
> the exported version.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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Re: Add border to photo using Preview

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 29 Sep 2019, at 11:51 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I used the Markup tool in Preview to create a contrast border on a photo.
> 
> I save the JPG file but the border has disappeared when the file is reopened.
> 
> Any solution?
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 

I just tried it here Alan. I opened an existing .jpg image and put a white 
border around it using the Markup tools, just as you have. You don’t describe 
the process you used to save your file, but I exported mine back as a .jpg 
file, rather than just saving it. The border was still there when I opened it 
the exported version.


Kind regards,

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Perth, Western Australia
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Add border to photo using Preview

[Alan Smith]

Hello all

I used the Markup tool in Preview to create a contrast border on a photo.

I save the JPG file but the border has disappeared when the file is reopened.

Any solution?

Cheers
Alan


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Re: Preview?

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
Thank you all for your assistance
Kind regards
Peter
> On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:52 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi every one
>> I have a couple of queries if someone could assist.
>> Preview doesn’t have a “Save as” function anymore, meaning you have to 
>> “Duplicate” then do your alterations to an original copy? Is this correct or 
>> is there another way?
>> What would be recommended program to reduce the size of .pdf forms (Preview) 
>> in size? or is there an easy way I’m not aware of?
>> Thanks in anticipation
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> "Save As" became “Duplicate” back in ‘Lion’ if I remember correctly - 
> Duplicate is not the same as Save as, they are different mechanisms that can 
> accomplish the same task.
> 
> If you want, you can "Cmd-Shift-S" to "Duplicate"
> 
> ‘Duplicate' is better than the old system, and so is 'Revert To Saved', which 
> works way better than the old Quit and then answer "No" to "Do you want so 
> save your changes?".
> 
> You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes 
> overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under 
> you with the new system.
> 
> For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and 
> you 'Revert To Saved', then Quit, the document will look just like it was 
> before your changes. 
> Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually 
> retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to 
> look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. 
> 
> A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no 
> evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should 
> be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.)
> 
> Crop and Resize Images
> To crop an image, open it and then click on the Select button in the toolbar 
> (if you don’t see a square on this button, click and hold it and choose 
> Rectangular Selection). Click and drag to create a rectangle around the area 
> you want to crop. You can resize this rectangle by dragging one of its 
> corners, or you can move it if you need to. 
> 
> Then choose Tools: Crop or press Command-K. If you like what you see, save 
> the file; if not, press Command-Z to go back to the original image.
> 
> You can then resize your image and even change its resolution. Choose Tools: 
> Adjust Size to enter a width or height in pixels, inches, or other units 
> (choose the unit you want from the pop-up menu to the right of these fields). 
> 
> To maintain the image’s proportions, make sure to select the Scale 
> Proportionally option. To make an image smaller without losing quality, keep 
> Resample Image selected. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
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Re: Preview?

[Brian RISBEY]

Hi Peter
Try pressing 'Option' key when selecting Save from file menu. 

Brian Risbey 
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Re: Preview?

[Daniel Kerr]

You can also hold down the “Option” key before clicking on the File menu (or 
while you’ve clicked on the File menu, hold down the Option key). You’ll see 
Duplicate change to “Save As”.
That also will work :)

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> On 1 Feb 2017, at 10:14 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Peter another option I have used from time to time is the File>Export 
> function. 
> 
> Select that and you will see options to Export As and choose a file name.
> But importantly in the bottom pane you can select the type of file to export 
> as. 
> If you select PDF, then another box appears called Quartz Filter.
> One of the options in there is to Reduce File Size.
> 
> Sometimes this works better than others, but it’s an option worth playing 
> with.  Best to keep an untouched original incase these tools mess up your 
> document, too low resolution for example
> 
> Cheers
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:52 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi every one
>>> I have a couple of queries if someone could assist.
>>> Preview doesn’t have a “Save as” function anymore, meaning you have to 
>>> “Duplicate” then do your alterations to an original copy? Is this correct 
>>> or is there another way?
>>> What would be recommended program to reduce the size of .pdf forms 
>>> (Preview) in size? or is there an easy way I’m not aware of?
>>> Thanks in anticipation
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> "Save As" became “Duplicate” back in ‘Lion’ if I remember correctly - 
>> Duplicate is not the same as Save as, they are different mechanisms that can 
>> accomplish the same task.
>> 
>> If you want, you can "Cmd-Shift-S" to "Duplicate"
>> 
>> ‘Duplicate' is better than the old system, and so is 'Revert To Saved', 
>> which works way better than the old Quit and then answer "No" to "Do you 
>> want so save your changes?".
>> 
>> You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes 
>> overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under 
>> you with the new system.
>> 
>> For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and 
>> you 'Revert To Saved', then Quit, the document will look just like it was 
>> before your changes. 
>> Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually 
>> retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to 
>> look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. 
>> 
>> A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no 
>> evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should 
>> be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.)
>> 
>> Crop and Resize Images
>> To crop an image, open it and then click on the Select button in the toolbar 
>> (if you don’t see a square on this button, click and hold it and choose 
>> Rectangular Selection). Click and drag to create a rectangle around the area 
>> you want to crop. You can resize this rectangle by dragging one of its 
>> corners, or you can move it if you need to. 
>> 
>> Then choose Tools: Crop or press Command-K. If you like what you see, save 
>> the file; if not, press Command-Z to go back to the original image.
>> 
>> You can then resize your image and even change its resolution. Choose Tools: 
>> Adjust Size to enter a width or height in pixels, inches, or other units 
>> (choose the unit you want from the pop-up menu to the right of these 
>> fields). 
>> 
>> To maintain the image’s proportions, make sure to select the Scale 
>> Proportionally option. To make an image smaller without losing quality, keep 
>> Resample Image selected. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz

Re: Preview?

[Tim Law]

Peter another option I have used from time to time is the File>Export function. 

Select that and you will see options to Export As and choose a file name.
But importantly in the bottom pane you can select the type of file to export 
as. 
If you select PDF, then another box appears called Quartz Filter.
One of the options in there is to Reduce File Size.

Sometimes this works better than others, but it’s an option worth playing with. 
 Best to keep an untouched original incase these tools mess up your document, 
too low resolution for example

Cheers
Tim


> On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:52 pm, Ronni Brown mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Curtis > <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi every one
>> I have a couple of queries if someone could assist.
>> Preview doesn’t have a “Save as” function anymore, meaning you have to 
>> “Duplicate” then do your alterations to an original copy? Is this correct or 
>> is there another way?
>> What would be recommended program to reduce the size of .pdf forms (Preview) 
>> in size? or is there an easy way I’m not aware of?
>> Thanks in anticipation
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> "Save As" became “Duplicate” back in ‘Lion’ if I remember correctly - 
> Duplicate is not the same as Save as, they are different mechanisms that can 
> accomplish the same task.
> 
> If you want, you can "Cmd-Shift-S" to "Duplicate"
> 
> ‘Duplicate' is better than the old system, and so is 'Revert To Saved', which 
> works way better than the old Quit and then answer "No" to "Do you want so 
> save your changes?".
> 
> You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes 
> overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under 
> you with the new system.
> 
> For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and 
> you 'Revert To Saved', then Quit, the document will look just like it was 
> before your changes. 
> Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually 
> retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to 
> look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. 
> 
> A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no 
> evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should 
> be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.)
> 
> Crop and Resize Images
> To crop an image, open it and then click on the Select button in the toolbar 
> (if you don’t see a square on this button, click and hold it and choose 
> Rectangular Selection). Click and drag to create a rectangle around the area 
> you want to crop. You can resize this rectangle by dragging one of its 
> corners, or you can move it if you need to. 
> 
> Then choose Tools: Crop or press Command-K. If you like what you see, save 
> the file; if not, press Command-Z to go back to the original image.
> 
> You can then resize your image and even change its resolution. Choose Tools: 
> Adjust Size to enter a width or height in pixels, inches, or other units 
> (choose the unit you want from the pop-up menu to the right of these fields). 
> 
> To maintain the image’s proportions, make sure to select the Scale 
> Proportionally option. To make an image smaller without losing quality, keep 
> Resample Image selected. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
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Re: Preview?

[Ronni Brown]

> On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi every one
> I have a couple of queries if someone could assist.
> Preview doesn’t have a “Save as” function anymore, meaning you have to 
> “Duplicate” then do your alterations to an original copy? Is this correct or 
> is there another way?
> What would be recommended program to reduce the size of .pdf forms (Preview) 
> in size? or is there an easy way I’m not aware of?
> Thanks in anticipation
> Kind regards
> Peter

Hi Peter,

"Save As" became “Duplicate” back in ‘Lion’ if I remember correctly - Duplicate 
is not the same as Save as, they are different mechanisms that can accomplish 
the same task.

If you want, you can "Cmd-Shift-S" to "Duplicate"

‘Duplicate' is better than the old system, and so is 'Revert To Saved', which 
works way better than the old Quit and then answer "No" to "Do you want so save 
your changes?".

You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes 
overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under you 
with the new system.

For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and you 
'Revert To Saved', then Quit, the document will look just like it was before 
your changes. 
Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually 
retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to 
look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. 

A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no 
evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should be 
worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.)

Crop and Resize Images
To crop an image, open it and then click on the Select button in the toolbar 
(if you don’t see a square on this button, click and hold it and choose 
Rectangular Selection). Click and drag to create a rectangle around the area 
you want to crop. You can resize this rectangle by dragging one of its corners, 
or you can move it if you need to. 

Then choose Tools: Crop or press Command-K. If you like what you see, save the 
file; if not, press Command-Z to go back to the original image.

You can then resize your image and even change its resolution. Choose Tools: 
Adjust Size to enter a width or height in pixels, inches, or other units 
(choose the unit you want from the pop-up menu to the right of these fields). 

To maintain the image’s proportions, make sure to select the Scale 
Proportionally option. To make an image smaller without losing quality, keep 
Resample Image selected. 

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

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Preview?

[Peter Curtis]

Hi every one
I have a couple of queries if someone could assist.
Preview doesn’t have a “Save as” function anymore, meaning you have to 
“Duplicate” then do your alterations to an original copy? Is this correct or is 
there another way?
What would be recommended program to reduce the size of .pdf forms (Preview) in 
size? or is there an easy way I’m not aware of?
Thanks in anticipation
Kind regards
Peter
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Re: Preview glitch

[Severin Crisp]

Works a treat!!
Severin


> On 7 May 2016, at 10:16 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> No, I have used the slider.  Will try the arrows.  
> Thanks!
> Severin
> 
>> On 7 May 2016, at 10:11 PM, Ronda Brown > <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> Are you using the up & down arrow keys?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 May 2016, at 6:37 PM, Severin Crisp >> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using Preview to look at groups of images, selecting them one at a 
>>> time in the sidebar
>>> I am finding that the sidebar slider grows to the full window length and I 
>>> can only see a few images
>>> Any suggestions
>>> I have resisted trashing the permissions
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone
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Re: Preview glitch

[Severin Crisp]

No, I have used the slider.  Will try the arrows.  
Thanks!
Severin

> On 7 May 2016, at 10:11 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> Are you using the up & down arrow keys?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 7 May 2016, at 6:37 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using Preview to look at groups of images, selecting them one at a time 
>> in the sidebar
>> I am finding that the sidebar slider grows to the full window length and I 
>> can only see a few images
>> Any suggestions
>> I have resisted trashing the permissions
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone
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Re: Preview glitch

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,
Are you using the up & down arrow keys?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 7 May 2016, at 6:37 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I am using Preview to look at groups of images, selecting them one at a time 
> in the sidebar
> I am finding that the sidebar slider grows to the full window length and I 
> can only see a few images
> Any suggestions
> I have resisted trashing the permissions
> Severin Crisp
> 
> Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone
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Preview glitch

[Severin Crisp]

I am using Preview to look at groups of images, selecting them one at a time in 
the sidebar
I am finding that the sidebar slider grows to the full window length and I can 
only see a few images
Any suggestions
I have resisted trashing the permissions
Severin Crisp

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lion 10.7.5 - preview images

[gdorn@me]

Howdy

I have some of my own scanned images which I need to rotate.

I open them in Preview - unlock the file as requested, rotate, save - says

"The document “. sk 3.png” could not be saved. The file is locked.
Do you want to save it anyway

press save anyway

now says

You don’t have permission to save the file “... sk 3.png”.

To view or change permissions, select the item in the Finder and choose File > 
Get Info.


yep did that - Get info says;  Me>privilege > Read and Write

so whats up!

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Re: Preview: Import Image From Scanner ... dock icon?

[Alan Smith]

Terrific!  Thanks Daniel

Another one of those forgotten standard little apps and utilities I haven’t 
opened since I got my first Apple computer.

May also be useful for importing those odd camera shots that don’t need the 
full iPhoto treatment (which is now becoming tedious!).

Thanks again
Alan

On 6 Apr 2014, at 11:57 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

> Applications - Image Capture
> Drag into Dock
> Done :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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> On 6 Apr 2014, at 11:53 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
>> I have just installed an Epson Perfection V37 scanner on my OSX Mavericks 
>> iMac.  It works (finally!) but I find it a bit tedious and time consuming to 
>> operate using the Epson software.
>> 
>> The OSX standard 'Preview > File > Import from Scanner' process may be more 
>> suitable for occasional use.   It would be nice to have a Dock icon to use 
>> as a shortcut to the depths of the Preview menu system.   (Or via the 
>> similar 'System Preferences > Printers and Scanners > Epson V37' route.)
>> Is this possible?Is so, then how is it done?
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>>  Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
>>  Late 2009 iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Preview: Import Image From Scanner ... dock icon?

[Daniel Kerr]

Applications - Image Capture
Drag into Dock
Done :)

Kind regards
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> On 6 Apr 2014, at 11:53 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> I have just installed an Epson Perfection V37 scanner on my OSX Mavericks 
> iMac.  It works (finally!) but I find it a bit tedious and time consuming to 
> operate using the Epson software.
> 
> The OSX standard 'Preview > File > Import from Scanner' process may be more 
> suitable for occasional use.   It would be nice to have a Dock icon to use as 
> a shortcut to the depths of the Preview menu system.   (Or via the similar 
> 'System Preferences > Printers and Scanners > Epson V37' route.)Is this 
> possible?Is so, then how is it done?
> 
> Regards, 
> Alan
> 
> Alan Smith
>  Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
>  Late 2009 iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
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Preview: Import Image From Scanner ... dock icon?

[Alan Smith]

I have just installed an Epson Perfection V37 scanner on my OSX Mavericks iMac. 
 It works (finally!) but I find it a bit tedious and time consuming to operate 
using the Epson software.

The OSX standard 'Preview > File > Import from Scanner' process may be more 
suitable for occasional use.   It would be nice to have a Dock icon to use as a 
shortcut to the depths of the Preview menu system.   (Or via the similar 
'System Preferences > Printers and Scanners > Epson V37' route.)Is this 
possible?Is so, then how is it done?

Regards, 
Alan

Alan Smith
  Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.9.2
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Re: Fun exercise - make your own Quicklook preview service.

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 28 Jan 2014, at 12:44 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:

> First-off, a disclaimer - this is all as done on my set-up on OSX 10.6.8 - 
> things may have changed in later operating systems.
> I use Quicklook a LOT - checking back through older documents or newer 
> downloads - whether to just check something without having to open the 
> associated application or sometimes just to compare two documents (again 
> without opening in the app).
> 
> One minor frustration has always been that changing focus to another 
> application, or even a different finder window, means that the Quicklook 
> preview pane is hidden (or it changes to the new document if still in finder) 
> - I realise this is how it needs to work to fulfil it's main purpose, but...
> 
> Then I found this article explaining how to use Quicklook from Terminal:
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1131923/qlterminal.html>
> The advantage to this is that the Quicklook preview window remains open until 
> you close it - even as you switch to other apps or windows and you can have 
> more than one Quicklook preview window open at a time - although these 
> windows always float in front of other open windows/apps.
> 

Thank you so much for this Neil. Automator is one of the great under-used 
features of Mac OS X, and is poorly understood by most users. Any and all 
contributions highlighting its use are most welcome, and are made even more 
treasured because they are unique to the Mac. 

Keep 'em coming!  

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Fun exercise - make your own Quicklook preview service.

[Neil Houghton]

First-off, a disclaimer - this is all as done on my set-up on OSX 10.6.8 -
things may have changed in later operating systems.

I use Quicklook a LOT - checking back through older documents or newer
downloads - whether to just check something without having to open the
associated application or sometimes just to compare two documents (again
without opening in the app).

One minor frustration has always been that changing focus to another
application, or even a different finder window, means that the Quicklook
preview pane is hidden (or it changes to the new document if still in
finder) - I realise this is how it needs to work to fulfil it's main
purpose, but...

Then I found this article explaining how to use Quicklook from Terminal:
<http://www.macworld.com/article/1131923/qlterminal.html>
The advantage to this is that the Quicklook preview window remains open
until you close it - even as you switch to other apps or windows and you can
have more than one Quicklook preview window open at a time - although these
windows always float in front of other open windows/apps.

Of course the time/effort to open terminal and type the commands sort of
negates the whole convenience of Quicklook - which is when I thought of
creating a service to do this.

The automator application makes this sort of thing simple - so, if anyone
wants to try it, this is how I did it:

1. Open the Automator application and it will ask you to choose a template
for your workflow ­ choose ³Service²
2. At the top of the window where it says ³Service receives selected² - from
the drop down menu choose ³files or folders² and then after ³in² choose
³Finder² 
3. In the sidebar, you can select either ³Actions² or ³Variables² - select
³Actions² (if you cannot see the sidebar, click the ³Show library² button at
the top left of the automator window)
4. From the ³actions² menu list, scroll down until you see ³Run Shell
script² and double-click it ­ this will add a new ³Run Shell script² action
to the main automator window.
5. Within the new ³Run Shell script² action:
> * Make sure that ³Shell² is showing ³/bin/bash² as its selection
> * Change ³Pass input² to show ³as arguments² as its selection
6. The script window should now be showing:
>> for f in "$@"
>> do
>> echo "$f"
>> done
1. Replace the line;  echo "$f" with the two lines:
>> FILE=`basename "$f"`
>> qlmanage -p "$f"
1. The script window should now be showing:
>> for f in "$@"
>> Do
>> FILE=`basename "$f"`
>> qlmanage -p "$f"
>> Done
1. Your script is now complete. From the main automator menu bar choose
File/Save as and give it an appropriate name ­ eg ³Quicklook Preview². On
saving, Automator will put the workflow into the appropriate location -
~/library/services.

That¹s all there is to it ­ you can now quit automator and see how your new
service works:


1. Open a finder window and select an item that you want to preview (eg an
image, or a text document)
2. Right-click the item and drop down to the ³services² item ­ you will now
see your new service ³Quicklook Preview² (or whatever you named it) listed
as one of the services
3. Click the ³Quicklook Preview² service choice and the Quicklook preview of
the item will open in a new window

Note that this preview window behaves differently to the normal quicklook
preview windows, as previously noted you can have more than one of these
Quicklook preview windows open at a time and these windows always float in
front of other open windows/apps ­ also ­ to close the window you need to
use the ³X² button at the top left of the window.

I just wanted to share this as an exercise to show how easy it can be to add
your own service menu item to the services menu. You may or may not find
this actual service useful. I certainly find the normal Quicklook preview
method much more convenient most of the time ­ but there are enough
occasions where I find this service useful (eg a quick side-by-side
comparison of two similar items to see what the differences are) to make it
a useful addition for myself.


Have fun ;o)



Cheers




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Re: Print preview

[Alex]

Thank you Daniel & Peter - I thought it would have to be somewhere!

Cheers,  Alex

On 12/08/2013, at 8:23 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

> 
> On 12/08/2013, at 12:47 AM, Alex  wrote:
> 
>> Hello WAmuggers
>> 
>> Until recently, I have had a couple laptops both with MAC OSX 6.8 (I think). 
>>  I now have a Macbook Pro Retina running OSX 10.8.4.
>> 
>> I am wondering where Print Preview has disappeared to?  Previously it used 
>> to be a button in the Print dialogue box in the bottom left corner.  This 
>> was quite useful to me as it saved printing pages that were basically 
>> rubbish attached to the end of, e.g., bank statements.  Now I can't find it 
>> :(  Is it hidden somewhere else, or have Apple in their wisdom decided to 
>> become like Microsoft ? :)
>> 
> Things have changed with Mountain Lion, but it also depends on the software. 
> Mountain Lion has removed the "Preview" button in favour of a single "PDF" 
> popup menu. The first item in this menu is "Open PDF in Preview". It's the 
> same thing as clicking the "Preview" in older versions. Note that not all 
> software obeys the rules. Some older software which has not been fully 
> optimised for Mountain Lion will still display the "Preview" button in the 
> Print dialog.
> 
> 
>> I do have another issue as well in that the track pad seems to be 
>> "slippery".  When I click on something to select it, often I slip to another 
>> unwanted selection.  Once, this was disastrous, had to re-enter nearly an 
>> hours data entry.
>> 
> 
> I  occasionally find this to be the case as well, especially with work 
> requiring very fine control such as graphic design. I invariably switch back 
> to a mouse for this work. On the other hand, I find the superior gestures 
> available on the Trackpad mean that it comes into its own for tasks such as 
> web browsing and email.  
> 
> Right tool for the job, that sort of thing...
> 
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Re: Print preview

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 12/08/2013, at 12:47 AM, Alex  wrote:

> Hello WAmuggers
> 
> Until recently, I have had a couple laptops both with MAC OSX 6.8 (I think).  
> I now have a Macbook Pro Retina running OSX 10.8.4.
> 
> I am wondering where Print Preview has disappeared to?  Previously it used to 
> be a button in the Print dialogue box in the bottom left corner.  This was 
> quite useful to me as it saved printing pages that were basically rubbish 
> attached to the end of, e.g., bank statements.  Now I can't find it :(  Is it 
> hidden somewhere else, or have Apple in their wisdom decided to become like 
> Microsoft ? :)
> 
Things have changed with Mountain Lion, but it also depends on the software. 
Mountain Lion has removed the "Preview" button in favour of a single "PDF" 
popup menu. The first item in this menu is "Open PDF in Preview". It's the same 
thing as clicking the "Preview" in older versions. Note that not all software 
obeys the rules. Some older software which has not been fully optimised for 
Mountain Lion will still display the "Preview" button in the Print dialog.


> I do have another issue as well in that the track pad seems to be "slippery". 
>  When I click on something to select it, often I slip to another unwanted 
> selection.  Once, this was disastrous, had to re-enter nearly an hours data 
> entry.
> 

I  occasionally find this to be the case as well, especially with work 
requiring very fine control such as graphic design. I invariably switch back to 
a mouse for this work. On the other hand, I find the superior gestures 
available on the Trackpad mean that it comes into its own for tasks such as web 
browsing and email.  

Right tool for the job, that sort of thing...

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Re: Print preview

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Alex

Print Preview has been "adjusted" to be a lot easier (Personally I think so.)
When you go to Print you should see a "preview" of the page you are about to 
print. Underneath this "preview" will be the list of number of page (e.g. 1 of 
3 etc). Just to the right of this will be a single arrow (triangle) then a sort 
of "double arrow/triangle with a line). The single "arrow" will take you to the 
next page preview and the "double arrow" will take you to the last page preview.
This way you can look at Page 1, Page 2 and Page 3 (and so on,….). That way as 
you're stepping through the pages you can decide which ones you want to print.

(Also, I find it helps if you're looking at the "larger" print dialogue as 
well. This will be shown from the button "Show Details" or "Hide Details. One 
will give you the "quick and nasty" print dialogue, the other will give you 
more settings to customise.).

Not sure I 100% follow your "slippery trackpad",..but I'd suggest to have a 
look and play with System Preferences - Trackpad. As the Trackpad is a lot more 
"Gesture based" now, you may want to look through all the settings and turn 
some off until you get used to it, incase you're "bumping" one of the other 
settings with different touches etc….

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 12/08/2013, at 12:47 AM, Alex  wrote:

> Hello WAmuggers
> 
> Until recently, I have had a couple laptops both with MAC OSX 6.8 (I think).  
> I now have a Macbook Pro Retina running OSX 10.8.4.
> 
> I am wondering where Print Preview has disappeared to?  Previously it used to 
> be a button in the Print dialogue box in the bottom left corner.  This was 
> quite useful to me as it saved printing pages that were basically rubbish 
> attached to the end of, e.g., bank statements.  Now I can't find it :(  Is it 
> hidden somewhere else, or have Apple in their wisdom decided to become like 
> Microsoft ? :)
> 
> I do have another issue as well in that the track pad seems to be "slippery". 
>  When I click on something to select it, often I slip to another unwanted 
> selection.  Once, this was disastrous, had to re-enter nearly an hours data 
> entry.
> 
> I can, of course, take more care & be firmer in my action, but I did not have 
> this problem with my older Mac Air & 17" Pro.  Has anyone else had this 
> problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your responses & assistance.
> 
> Cheers,  Alex
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Print preview

[Alex]

Hello WAmuggers

Until recently, I have had a couple laptops both with MAC OSX 6.8 (I think).  I 
now have a Macbook Pro Retina running OSX 10.8.4.

I am wondering where Print Preview has disappeared to?  Previously it used to 
be a button in the Print dialogue box in the bottom left corner.  This was 
quite useful to me as it saved printing pages that were basically rubbish 
attached to the end of, e.g., bank statements.  Now I can't find it :(  Is it 
hidden somewhere else, or have Apple in their wisdom decided to become like 
Microsoft ? :)

I do have another issue as well in that the track pad seems to be "slippery".  
When I click on something to select it, often I slip to another unwanted 
selection.  Once, this was disastrous, had to re-enter nearly an hours data 
entry.

I can, of course, take more care & be firmer in my action, but I did not have 
this problem with my older Mac Air & 17" Pro.  Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks in advance for your responses & assistance.

Cheers,  Alex
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Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Ronni

I believe you. :o)
I had all the same settings though, and Preview still did it,
Ive run it on both computers now, so I can't see if I can repeat it without 
working out how to "Reverse" the Terminal commands. lol.
And at the moment, too much like hard work. And given the workload this week 
all ready,..it's on the bottom of the list for now,...lol :)
One day I might relook at it and see. But it worked for me, so that was 
ok,...lol :))

Besides,...would I ever doubt you,... :oP ;o)

KInd regards
Daniel

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On 14/02/2012, at 10:42 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> I don’t know why you had to use Terminal to achieve this, unless I’m 
> misunderstanding you.
> 
> Since I changed both settings (quite some time ago) in System Preferences > 
> General > Number of Recent Items by selecting 'Documents None' (0)
> and unselecting ‘Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps’, I don’t 
> have recent Applications opening or documents or Preview images etc opening.
> 
> If I open TextEdit a blank page appears & no other documents, if I open 
> Preview (without selecting anything) nothing appears and in both 
> Applications, if I go to File > Open Recent - Clear Menu is greyed out as 
> there is nothing in Recents (which is what I want).
> 
> If I Control-Click > Show Recents on either TextEdit or Preview in the Dock, 
> nothing appears … which is exactly what I have wished to achieve.
> 
> I can send you screenshots if you doubt me or wish to see what is happening 
> on my ‘Customised’ Lion ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 14/02/2012, at 8:45 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> I've long had the "Restore windows when Quitting" unticked long before the 
>> Preview thing. I never liked that feature either, so turned it off with in 
>> days of installing Lion.
>> So even though that's still turned off it (Preview) still did it.
>> After a bit of googling a lot of people didn't like this "Recent Items" 
>> feature and had found the only way to "turn it off" was via the Terminal 
>> commands.
>> 
>> Previews preferences were a bit "light on the ground" with those 
>> things,..lol. ;o)
>> Generally I don't mind it, but with some things I do,... :))
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>> 
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>> 
>> On 14/02/2012, at 7:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bill & Michael & Daniel,
>>> 
>>> In Lion when you open programs like Preview and Safari, your previously 
>>> viewed docs or tabs automatically get reloaded.
>>> 
>>> This feature is system wide and not app specific. 
>>> You can manage or disable this feature in System Preferences>General>Number 
>>> of Recent Items by un-checking “Restore windows when quitting and 
>>> re-opening apps” and setting the number of recent documents to 0.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>> 
>>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>> 
>>> On 14/02/2012, at 6:59 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( 
>>>> S-Leopard)
>>>> Not sure its Preview exclusive.
>>>> 
>>>> After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
>>>> beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that 
>>>> it has stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to 
>>>> understand, most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this 
>>>> stuff but never use it.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just thought I'd share this
>>>>> 
>>>>> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really 
>>>>> like the way it's "

Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Daniel,

I don’t know why you had to use Terminal to achieve this, unless I’m 
misunderstanding you.

Since I changed both settings (quite some time ago) in System Preferences > 
General > Number of Recent Items by selecting 'Documents None' (0)
and unselecting ‘Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps’, I don’t 
have recent Applications opening or documents or Preview images etc opening.

If I open TextEdit a blank page appears & no other documents, if I open Preview 
(without selecting anything) nothing appears and in both Applications, if I go 
to File > Open Recent - Clear Menu is greyed out as there is nothing in Recents 
(which is what I want).

If I Control-Click > Show Recents on either TextEdit or Preview in the Dock, 
nothing appears … which is exactly what I have wished to achieve.

I can send you screenshots if you doubt me or wish to see what is happening on 
my ‘Customised’ Lion ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni


On 14/02/2012, at 8:45 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> I've long had the "Restore windows when Quitting" unticked long before the 
> Preview thing. I never liked that feature either, so turned it off with in 
> days of installing Lion.
> So even though that's still turned off it (Preview) still did it.
> After a bit of googling a lot of people didn't like this "Recent Items" 
> feature and had found the only way to "turn it off" was via the Terminal 
> commands.
> 
> Previews preferences were a bit "light on the ground" with those 
> things,..lol. ;o)
> Generally I don't mind it, but with some things I do,... :))
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Macintosh**
> 
> On 14/02/2012, at 7:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bill & Michael & Daniel,
>> 
>> In Lion when you open programs like Preview and Safari, your previously 
>> viewed docs or tabs automatically get reloaded.
>> 
>> This feature is system wide and not app specific. 
>> You can manage or disable this feature in System Preferences>General>Number 
>> of Recent Items by un-checking “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening 
>> apps” and setting the number of recent documents to 0.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> On 14/02/2012, at 6:59 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>> 
>>> It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( 
>>> S-Leopard)
>>> Not sure its Preview exclusive.
>>> 
>>> After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
>>> beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that it 
>>> has stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to 
>>> understand, most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this stuff 
>>> but never use it.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All
>>>> 
>>>> Just thought I'd share this
>>>> 
>>>> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really 
>>>> like the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
>>>> To help explain it a little more.
>>>> 
>>>> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
>>>> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
>>>> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
>>>> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
>>>> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
>>>> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
>>>> 
>>>> This is where it gets interesting.
>>>> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File 
>>>> Menu, Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so 
>>>> you think).
>>>> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if 
>>>> you right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll 
>>>

Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you Ronda!

On 14/02/2012, at 7:38 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Bill & Michael & Daniel,
> 
> In Lion when you open programs like Preview and Safari, your previously 
> viewed docs or tabs automatically get reloaded.
> 
> This feature is system wide and not app specific. 
> You can manage or disable this feature in System Preferences>General>Number 
> of Recent Items by un-checking “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening 
> apps” and setting the number of recent documents to 0.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> On 14/02/2012, at 6:59 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( 
>> S-Leopard)
>> Not sure its Preview exclusive.
>> 
>> After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
>> beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that it 
>> has stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to 
>> understand, most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this stuff 
>> but never use it.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> Just thought I'd share this
>>> 
>>> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really 
>>> like the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
>>> To help explain it a little more.
>>> 
>>> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
>>> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
>>> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
>>> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
>>> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
>>> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
>>> 
>>> This is where it gets interesting.
>>> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File 
>>> Menu, Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so 
>>> you think).
>>> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
>>> right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see 
>>> it's still there.
>>> 
>>> After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
>>> clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.
>>> 
>>> So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
>>> that might not want it to remember these items.
>>> 
>>> You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is 
>>> com.apple.Preview.
>>> 
>>> Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
>>> Utilities.)
>>> In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
>>> (Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in 
>>> brackets).
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
>>> MaxAmount 0
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> Restart the computer.
>>> 
>>> What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
>>> Recent Items at all. Great!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why would I want this you may ask? Fair question :)
>>> While it may be useful sometimes to gain access to items I've looked at 
>>> before, I was more concerned with pdfs and items that I'd opened or looked 
>>> at for clients with a Confidential nature. Or quotes and price lists I'd 
>>> previously gone into, also showing as well.
>>> I know my machine is "locked down" with a password for everything and 
>>> normally I'm only the one using it. But I still feel "better" that when I'm 
>>> using my machine to show off something to a client that should I right 
>>> click on Preview in the Dock to show something off that other client's info 
>>> (names in quotes e

Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Ronni

I've long had the "Restore windows when Quitting" unticked long before the 
Preview thing. I never liked that feature either, so turned it off with in days 
of installing Lion.
So even though that's still turned off it (Preview) still did it.
After a bit of googling a lot of people didn't like this "Recent Items" feature 
and had found the only way to "turn it off" was via the Terminal commands.

Previews preferences were a bit "light on the ground" with those things,..lol. 
;o)
Generally I don't mind it, but with some things I do,... :))

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 4s

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>


**For everything Macintosh**

On 14/02/2012, at 7:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Bill & Michael & Daniel,
> 
> In Lion when you open programs like Preview and Safari, your previously 
> viewed docs or tabs automatically get reloaded.
> 
> This feature is system wide and not app specific. 
> You can manage or disable this feature in System Preferences>General>Number 
> of Recent Items by un-checking “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening 
> apps” and setting the number of recent documents to 0.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> On 14/02/2012, at 6:59 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( 
>> S-Leopard)
>> Not sure its Preview exclusive.
>> 
>> After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
>> beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that it 
>> has stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to 
>> understand, most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this stuff 
>> but never use it.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> Just thought I'd share this
>>> 
>>> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really 
>>> like the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
>>> To help explain it a little more.
>>> 
>>> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
>>> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
>>> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
>>> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
>>> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
>>> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
>>> 
>>> This is where it gets interesting.
>>> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File 
>>> Menu, Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so 
>>> you think).
>>> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
>>> right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see 
>>> it's still there.
>>> 
>>> After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
>>> clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.
>>> 
>>> So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
>>> that might not want it to remember these items.
>>> 
>>> You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is 
>>> com.apple.Preview.
>>> 
>>> Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
>>> Utilities.)
>>> In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
>>> (Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in 
>>> brackets).
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
>>> MaxAmount 0
>>> (Hit Return)
>>> Restart the computer.
>>> 
>>> What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
>>> Recent Items at all. Great!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why would I want this you may ask?

Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill & Michael & Daniel,

In Lion when you open programs like Preview and Safari, your previously viewed 
docs or tabs automatically get reloaded.

This feature is system wide and not app specific. 
You can manage or disable this feature in System Preferences>General>Number of 
Recent Items by un-checking “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps” 
and setting the number of recent documents to 0.


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.3 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 14/02/2012, at 6:59 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( S-Leopard)
> Not sure its Preview exclusive.
> 
> After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
> beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that it 
> has stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to 
> understand, most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this stuff 
> but never use it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Just thought I'd share this
>> 
>> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really like 
>> the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
>> To help explain it a little more.
>> 
>> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
>> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
>> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
>> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
>> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
>> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
>> 
>> This is where it gets interesting.
>> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File 
>> Menu, Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so 
>> you think).
>> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
>> right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see 
>> it's still there.
>> 
>> After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
>> clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.
>> 
>> So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
>> that might not want it to remember these items.
>> 
>> You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is 
>> com.apple.Preview.
>> 
>> Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
>> Utilities.)
>> In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
>> (Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in 
>> brackets).
>> 
>> defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
>> (Hit Return)
>> defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
>> (Hit Return)
>> defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
>> MaxAmount 0
>> (Hit Return)
>> Restart the computer.
>> 
>> What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
>> Recent Items at all. Great!
>> 
>> 
>> Why would I want this you may ask? Fair question :)
>> While it may be useful sometimes to gain access to items I've looked at 
>> before, I was more concerned with pdfs and items that I'd opened or looked 
>> at for clients with a Confidential nature. Or quotes and price lists I'd 
>> previously gone into, also showing as well.
>> I know my machine is "locked down" with a password for everything and 
>> normally I'm only the one using it. But I still feel "better" that when I'm 
>> using my machine to show off something to a client that should I right click 
>> on Preview in the Dock to show something off that other client's info (names 
>> in quotes etc) would show up in the list.
>> I'm a bit of a stickler for keeping info off my Desktop and out of sight if 
>> I'm showing something off to clients or other people.
>> 
>> I'd rather lose the "slightly" used Recent Items for the knowledge of an 
>> empty Pop up list from Preview in the Dock. :)
>> 
>> Apologies for the long post,..was aiming to get it all as clear as possible.
>> The information was taken from this site and changed to work with Preview. 
>> Obviously it can be used for other items as well.
>> <http://simon.heimlicher.com/articles/2011/07/26/disable-recent-items/>
>> 
>> Hope some find that useful.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Macintosh**
>> 
















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Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Bill Parker]

It did that to me with Acrobat Pro 8 yesterday after a shut down. ( S-Leopard)
Not sure its Preview exclusive.

After working with three windows machines (not because I want to)  I am 
beginning to think we have made this world so unecessaraily complex that it has 
stopped serving us and apart from the few who make a big effort to understand, 
most people are at the mercy of the nerds who design this stuff but never use 
it.

Bill



On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Just thought I'd share this
> 
> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really like 
> the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
> To help explain it a little more.
> 
> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
> 
> This is where it gets interesting.
> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File Menu, 
> Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so you 
> think).
> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
> right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see 
> it's still there.
> 
> After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
> clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.
> 
> So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
> that might not want it to remember these items.
> 
> You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is 
> com.apple.Preview.
> 
> Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
> Utilities.)
> In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
> (Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in 
> brackets).
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
> (Hit Return)
> defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
> (Hit Return)
> defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
> MaxAmount 0
> (Hit Return)
> Restart the computer.
> 
> What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
> Recent Items at all. Great!
> 
> 
> Why would I want this you may ask? Fair question :)
> While it may be useful sometimes to gain access to items I've looked at 
> before, I was more concerned with pdfs and items that I'd opened or looked at 
> for clients with a Confidential nature. Or quotes and price lists I'd 
> previously gone into, also showing as well.
> I know my machine is "locked down" with a password for everything and 
> normally I'm only the one using it. But I still feel "better" that when I'm 
> using my machine to show off something to a client that should I right click 
> on Preview in the Dock to show something off that other client's info (names 
> in quotes etc) would show up in the list.
> I'm a bit of a stickler for keeping info off my Desktop and out of sight if 
> I'm showing something off to clients or other people.
> 
> I'd rather lose the "slightly" used Recent Items for the knowledge of an 
> empty Pop up list from Preview in the Dock. :)
> 
> Apologies for the long post,..was aiming to get it all as clear as possible.
> The information was taken from this site and changed to work with Preview. 
> Obviously it can be used for other items as well.
> <http://simon.heimlicher.com/articles/2011/07/26/disable-recent-items/>
> 
> Hope some find that useful.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Macintosh**
> 
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Re: A "feature" in Preview

[Michael Hawkins]

I don't like it that documents I've previously looked at automatically open 
whenever I click on the icon for the document that I actually want to look at. 

There's a huge risk of breaching client confidentiality. And it smacks of the 
computer saying "I know better than you, what you want to look at." a bit like 
automatic formatting being repeatedly foisted upon me when I want to format in 
the way that I want, or words being placed in documents because that's the word 
the computer thought I should be using.

Michael, who wonders just how many former Microsoft programmers worked on Lion.

On 13/02/2012, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Just thought I'd share this
> 
> After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really like 
> the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
> To help explain it a little more.
> 
> Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
> Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked 
> at. And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
> Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
> you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer 
> then the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.
> 
> This is where it gets interesting.
> Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File Menu, 
> Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so you 
> think).
> If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
> right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see 
> it's still there.
> 
> After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
> clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.
> 
> So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
> that might not want it to remember these items.
> 
> You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is 
> com.apple.Preview.
> 
> Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
> Utilities.)
> In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
> (Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in 
> brackets).
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
> (Hit Return)
> defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
> (Hit Return)
> defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
> MaxAmount 0
> (Hit Return)
> Restart the computer.
> 
> What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
> Recent Items at all. Great!
> 
> 
> Why would I want this you may ask? Fair question :)
> While it may be useful sometimes to gain access to items I've looked at 
> before, I was more concerned with pdfs and items that I'd opened or looked at 
> for clients with a Confidential nature. Or quotes and price lists I'd 
> previously gone into, also showing as well.
> I know my machine is "locked down" with a password for everything and 
> normally I'm only the one using it. But I still feel "better" that when I'm 
> using my machine to show off something to a client that should I right click 
> on Preview in the Dock to show something off that other client's info (names 
> in quotes etc) would show up in the list.
> I'm a bit of a stickler for keeping info off my Desktop and out of sight if 
> I'm showing something off to clients or other people.
> 
> I'd rather lose the "slightly" used Recent Items for the knowledge of an 
> empty Pop up list from Preview in the Dock. :)
> 
> Apologies for the long post,..was aiming to get it all as clear as possible.
> The information was taken from this site and changed to work with Preview. 
> Obviously it can be used for other items as well.
> <http://simon.heimlicher.com/articles/2011/07/26/disable-recent-items/>
> 
> Hope some find that useful.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
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A "feature" in Preview

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All

Just thought I'd share this

After using Preview for a while (in Lion), I found that I didn't really like 
the way it's "Recent Items" worked.
To help explain it a little more.

Open Preview, then go to the File Menu and look at "Open Recent".
Fair enough,..it will list all the last few (lots?) of items you've looked at. 
And it's got a "Clear List" in the menu. 
Now, if you right click (or Control Click) on the Preview icon in the Dock 
you'll see a list of the "recent" items you've looked at. Possibly longer then 
the "Recent Items" you looked at from the menu.

This is where it gets interesting.
Now, I want to clear the Recent Items. So, ok, easy,...I go to the File Menu, 
Choose "Open Recent" and then choose "Clear List". List gone! (or so you think).
If you look at the Recent Items from menu,..yes, it's gone. However, if you 
right click (or Control click) on the Preview icon in the Dock, you'll see it's 
still there.

After a bit of looking around, I found it wasn't all that easy to actually 
clear that list from the Dock "recent items" pop up list.

So I thought I'd share it here in case anyone was interested, and for those 
that might not want it to remember these items.

You need to find the "Identifier" for Preview first. This is com.apple.Preview.

Next you need to open Terminal (which lives in Applications folder then 
Utilities.)
In Terminal you want to copy and the paste the following:-
(Copy each line, then hit Return on the keyboard where I've put it in brackets).

defaults write com.apple.Preview NSRecentDocumentsLimit 0
(Hit Return)
defaults delete com.apple.Peview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments
(Hit Return)
defaults write com.apple.Preview.LSSharedFileList RecentDocuments -dict-add 
MaxAmount 0
(Hit Return)
Restart the computer.

What this will do is clear the list from Preview and then not remember any 
Recent Items at all. Great!


Why would I want this you may ask? Fair question :)
While it may be useful sometimes to gain access to items I've looked at before, 
I was more concerned with pdfs and items that I'd opened or looked at for 
clients with a Confidential nature. Or quotes and price lists I'd previously 
gone into, also showing as well.
I know my machine is "locked down" with a password for everything and normally 
I'm only the one using it. But I still feel "better" that when I'm using my 
machine to show off something to a client that should I right click on Preview 
in the Dock to show something off that other client's info (names in quotes 
etc) would show up in the list.
I'm a bit of a stickler for keeping info off my Desktop and out of sight if I'm 
showing something off to clients or other people.

I'd rather lose the "slightly" used Recent Items for the knowledge of an empty 
Pop up list from Preview in the Dock. :)

Apologies for the long post,..was aiming to get it all as clear as possible.
The information was taken from this site and changed to work with Preview. 
Obviously it can be used for other items as well.
<http://simon.heimlicher.com/articles/2011/07/26/disable-recent-items/>

Hope some find that useful.


Kind regards
Daniel
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Re: sketchup model via collada into preview

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 08/02/2012, at 7:08 PM, gary dorn wrote:

> howdy folks
> 
> ibooks author supposedly imports the collada format 3D models for 
> viewing in the final book
> 
> SketchUp PRO - a 3D modelling software, can export to the collada format .
> 
> (The free version can as well with a bit of manipulation of the file 
> name - see http://collada.org/mediawiki/index.php/SketchUp  )
> 
> Whilst playing around with exporting to Collada, I have discovered 
> that Preview opens a dae file and allows manipulation of the eventual 
> model.
> 
> A sort of preview of the 3D file - I'm not sure if Acrobat can do that!
> 


No sure about that, but I do know that there is a particular format of 3D model 
file which can be sent to a Photoshop file format, and that while Acrobat 
Reader does support these files, Preview does not. It's great to know about the 
.dae format.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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sketchup model via collada into preview

[gary dorn]

howdy folks

ibooks author supposedly imports the collada format 3D models for 
viewing in the final book

SketchUp PRO - a 3D modelling software, can export to the collada format .

(The free version can as well with a bit of manipulation of the file 
name - see http://collada.org/mediawiki/index.php/SketchUp  )

Whilst playing around with exporting to Collada, I have discovered 
that Preview opens a dae file and allows manipulation of the eventual 
model.

A sort of preview of the 3D file - I'm not sure if Acrobat can do that!





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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,


on 5/1/12 12:21 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> On 05/01/2012, at 12:02 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ray,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for that. Yes that all looks fine in Preview AND the custom
>> page numbering is retained :o)
>> 
>> I was interested when you said
>>> Adobe Reader V10.1.1 did not have problems with any of the versions.
>> 
>> I do not normally use Acrobat reader but I had opened the original file in
>> Reader (9.4.2) when checking out Ronni's (sorry, Perez's) comments re page

> Isn¹t this what Perez was telling you back on 1 January 2012 Š select
> ³Bookmarks² view in Adobe Reader?

No, we are talking about two different things here. The original problem was
a page which was not displaying properly - which I have now worked out only
has display problems when viewed with Apple pdf rendering (eg preview,
quick-look, the iPad viewer) but is OK when viewed with the online reader
and in Adobe Reader - and that is what I meant by:
>> I now realise that I must not have actually viewed the problem
>> page in Reader - because I have now just tried that and it looks just fine!!

The second set of problem arose when I tried to fix the original problem by
dragging a good page into the book to replace the bad page - which worked
fine UNTIL I went to save the file in Preview, as I said:
>> At which point, the save
>> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
>> 
>> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
>> numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
>> before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)
>> 2. The file size increased from 4.2 MB to 610.6 MB!!

> If you create a multipage document using preview and look at the ToC view, it
> will only show the name of the first page and no other pages.
Agreed


> 
> In Adobe Reader to get the proper numbering of pages you need to look at the
> 'bookmark' view.
As I said before:
>> I am a little confused here - in my Adobe reader (version 9.4.2) I can see
>> no reference to "Bookmarks" or Bookmark view. However in "pages" view I see
>> the same numbering as in the Preview thumbnail view, ie correct numbering in
>> the original file and re-numbered after saving.


> With Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Reader, the bookmark view is the default, so
> things seem to be OK unless you switch views; with Preview, the thumbnail view
> is what we end up with because it's the only way to assemble a pdf, so we end
> up believing, falsely to some degree, that the numbers shown are page numbers.
As I said before:
>> Except that, as I say, the original file shows the "correct" thumbnail
>> numbers!

It may be clearer to look back at my reply to Perez's 1 January 2012 post,
with my comments against the original points. In this post, I also gave
links to the original books and also some screenshots showing the customised
page numbering displaying correctly in Preview (before saving) and then
losing this numbering after saving - so you can see this for yourself.

>From further reading, it seems that various pdf creation programs allow you
to apply custom numbering (or naming) to the page thumbnails. Both Adobe
Reader (in "pages" view) and Preview will correctly display these custom
thumbnail numbers - however, editing the pdf in preview (even just "save
as") strips out these numbers and applies a default simple numbering.

This is obviously just a limitation of Preview - the file that Ray fixed
using in-design and Acrobat Pro retains the custom thumbnail numbering as
per the original.

Of course none of this touches on why re-saving a 4.2 MB pdf in Preview
results in a 610 MB file! However, I think the exchanges between myself &
Carlo covered that in more detail.


I hope all that makes sense ;o)


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

> 
>> 
>> So it seems that the problem is limited to Preview - well, Apple's pdf
>> rendering, I guess, since Carlo also reported the same problem with the iPad
>> reader and the problem was also visible in quick-look.
>> 
>> Even though the original file is OK in Adobe Reader, your "fix" is greatly
>> appreciated - I use preview and quick-look all the time and it would have
>> been a pain to have to remember I needed to open this particular file in
>> Adobe Reader!
>> 
>> As Carlo says:
>>> Given the unusual nature of the bug, and how hard it is to trigger it I
>>> would
>>> guess you may not see a fix for Preview any time soon.
>> 
>> 
>

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Neil,

On 05/01/2012, at 12:02 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> Thanks so much for that. Yes that all looks fine in Preview AND the custom
> page numbering is retained :o)
> 
> I was interested when you said
>> Adobe Reader V10.1.1 did not have problems with any of the versions.
> 
> I do not normally use Acrobat reader but I had opened the original file in
> Reader (9.4.2) when checking out Ronni's (sorry, Perez's) comments re page
> numbering. I now realise that I must not have actually viewed the problem
> page in Reader - because I have now just tried that and it looks just fine!!

Isn’t this what Perez was telling you back on 1 January 2012 … select 
“Bookmarks” view in Adobe Reader?

If you create a multipage document using preview and look at the ToC view, it 
will only show the name of the first page and no other pages.

In Adobe Reader to get the proper numbering of pages you need to look at the 
'bookmark' view.

With Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Reader, the bookmark view is the default, so 
things seem to be OK unless you switch views; with Preview, the thumbnail view 
is what we end up with because it's the only way to assemble a pdf, so we end 
up believing, falsely to some degree, that the numbers shown are page numbers.

> 
> So it seems that the problem is limited to Preview - well, Apple's pdf
> rendering, I guess, since Carlo also reported the same problem with the iPad
> reader and the problem was also visible in quick-look.
> 
> Even though the original file is OK in Adobe Reader, your "fix" is greatly
> appreciated - I use preview and quick-look all the time and it would have
> been a pain to have to remember I needed to open this particular file in
> Adobe Reader!
> 
> As Carlo says:
>> Given the unusual nature of the bug, and how hard it is to trigger it I would
>> guess you may not see a fix for Preview any time soon.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 4/1/12 9:17 PM, Ray Forma at r...@smartchat.net.au wrote:
> 
>> Neil,
>> 
>> I have now opened p96 in InDesign, saved it as an eps, and used it to replace
>> p96 into the PDF I sent you earlier today. Attached is that new version, 
>> which
>> should hopefully give you a complete version, still at 4.2MB.
>> 
>> I forgot to test the previous version in Preview, which does have problems
>> with the original 96. The new version doesn't. Adobe Reader V10.1.1 did not
>> have problems with any of the versions.
>> 
>> On 04/01/2012, at 8:17 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ray,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that. However, when I open it, page 96 is still faulty - it does
>>> not display the text that you see if you view the file through the online
>>> reader.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com

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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ray,

Thanks so much for that. Yes that all looks fine in Preview AND the custom
page numbering is retained :o)

I was interested when you said
> Adobe Reader V10.1.1 did not have problems with any of the versions.

I do not normally use Acrobat reader but I had opened the original file in
Reader (9.4.2) when checking out Ronni's (sorry, Perez's) comments re page
numbering. I now realise that I must not have actually viewed the problem
page in Reader - because I have now just tried that and it looks just fine!!

So it seems that the problem is limited to Preview - well, Apple's pdf
rendering, I guess, since Carlo also reported the same problem with the iPad
reader and the problem was also visible in quick-look.

Even though the original file is OK in Adobe Reader, your "fix" is greatly
appreciated - I use preview and quick-look all the time and it would have
been a pain to have to remember I needed to open this particular file in
Adobe Reader!

As Carlo says:
> Given the unusual nature of the bug, and how hard it is to trigger it I would
> guess you may not see a fix for Preview any time soon.


Thanks again,


Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 4/1/12 9:17 PM, Ray Forma at r...@smartchat.net.au wrote:

> Neil,
> 
> I have now opened p96 in InDesign, saved it as an eps, and used it to replace
> p96 into the PDF I sent you earlier today. Attached is that new version, which
> should hopefully give you a complete version, still at 4.2MB.
> 
> I forgot to test the previous version in Preview, which does have problems
> with the original 96. The new version doesn't. Adobe Reader V10.1.1 did not
> have problems with any of the versions.
> 
> On 04/01/2012, at 8:17 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ray,
>> 
>> Thanks for that. However, when I open it, page 96 is still faulty - it does
>> not display the text that you see if you view the file through the online
>> reader.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[cm]

Hi Neil,

Both forms of the book come up beautifully on the iPad; the online version in 
Safari and the downloaded PDF in iBooks. In portrait orientation they look 
strikingly clear and crisp. There was a bit of a delay when I scrolled forward 
many pages at a time as the smaller processor of the iPad raced to keep up, but 
after a delay of about 10 seconds the pages displayed as expected. Jumping to a 
random location in the book also incurred a 10 second or so delay but turning 
the pages at reading speed was not a problem.

The page numbering was the non-customised version -- that is to say page 6 of 
the text was page 12 in the thumbnails. Page 96 was still blurry.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 01/01/2012, at 19:42 , Neil Houghton wrote:

> Yes, The folder of JP2 files contains 136 images, of which 130 end up in the
> pdf - so around 29 MB of the 30.2 MB total are compressed down to 4.2 MB
> whilst keeping very good image quality - so the compression is VERY good.
> 
> I can accept that Preview may need to uncompress the files to view them but
> not only does it fail to recompress them, it actually expands them to 610 MB
> - which seems ridiculous.
> 
> As I said in a previous post:
>> When I look at the properties of the pdf it says:
>> PDF Producer: Recoded by LuraDocument PDF v2.28 - so this might be the
>> program that did the page number magic ;o)
> 
> I did a bit of looking around and it seems that it is the LuraDocument
> program that does the compression:
> <http://www.luratech.com/en/home/products/software-and-solutions-for-documen
> t-processing/document-and-data-conversion-software/luradocument-pdf-compress
> or.html>
> 
> Some other online discussions suggest that the iPad may have trouble with
> these highly compressed pdfs - I don't have an iPad yet - I think you do
> Carlo? If so could you try viewing the original pdf and seeing if the iPad
> can cope with it?
> 
> The direct link to the pdf is
> <http://www.archive.org/download/parishregister00brad/parishregister00brad.p
> df>
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> on 1/1/12 6:01 PM, cm at cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> It is interesting that the original JPEG files are actually bigger than the
>> PDF. They must be using some type of compression. Perhaps Preview 
>> uncompressed
>> the images and on saving failed to compress them again.
>> 
>> Just idle speculation at this point. :-)
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> On 01/01/2012, at 17:49 , Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I'm not sure what is happening. It isn't the page swapping because the
>>> test I did before replying to Carlo was just opening the file in Preview and
>>> then re-saving - without any page swapping.
>>> 
>>> The original pdf creation was obviously very good - you can actually look at
>>> the original scanned jp2 files and they are around 70MB worth - before
>>> cropping etc - the cropped and straightened JP2s are 30MB worth and they
>>> have compiled them into a 4.2MB pdf - with very good image quality.
>>> 
>>> However the 610.4 MB file that Preview produces does seem excessive!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 1/1/12 5:18 PM, Mike Fuller at blis...@tpg.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
>>>> 
>>>> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 
>>>> pp)
>>>> from Preview.
>>>> 
>>>> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
>>>> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
>>>> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality
>>>> relatively poor.
>>>> 
>>>> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
>>>> 
>>>> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
>>>> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
>>>> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
>>>> 
>>>> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you
>>>> were
>>>> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet -
>>>> maybe
>>>> later tonight and I'll let you kn

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Yes, The folder of JP2 files contains 136 images, of which 130 end up in the
pdf - so around 29 MB of the 30.2 MB total are compressed down to 4.2 MB
whilst keeping very good image quality - so the compression is VERY good.

I can accept that Preview may need to uncompress the files to view them but
not only does it fail to recompress them, it actually expands them to 610 MB
- which seems ridiculous.

As I said in a previous post:
> When I look at the properties of the pdf it says:
> PDF Producer: Recoded by LuraDocument PDF v2.28 - so this might be the
> program that did the page number magic ;o)

I did a bit of looking around and it seems that it is the LuraDocument
program that does the compression:
<http://www.luratech.com/en/home/products/software-and-solutions-for-documen
t-processing/document-and-data-conversion-software/luradocument-pdf-compress
or.html>

Some other online discussions suggest that the iPad may have trouble with
these highly compressed pdfs - I don't have an iPad yet - I think you do
Carlo? If so could you try viewing the original pdf and seeing if the iPad
can cope with it?

The direct link to the pdf is
<http://www.archive.org/download/parishregister00brad/parishregister00brad.p
df>


Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 1/1/12 6:01 PM, cm at cm200...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is interesting that the original JPEG files are actually bigger than the
> PDF. They must be using some type of compression. Perhaps Preview uncompressed
> the images and on saving failed to compress them again.
> 
> Just idle speculation at this point. :-)
> 
> C
> 
> On 01/01/2012, at 17:49 , Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> Yes, I'm not sure what is happening. It isn't the page swapping because the
>> test I did before replying to Carlo was just opening the file in Preview and
>> then re-saving - without any page swapping.
>> 
>> The original pdf creation was obviously very good - you can actually look at
>> the original scanned jp2 files and they are around 70MB worth - before
>> cropping etc - the cropped and straightened JP2s are 30MB worth and they
>> have compiled them into a 4.2MB pdf - with very good image quality.
>> 
>> However the 610.4 MB file that Preview produces does seem excessive!!!
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 1/1/12 5:18 PM, Mike Fuller at blis...@tpg.com.au wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
>>> 
>>> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 pp)
>>> from Preview.
>>> 
>>> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
>>> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
>>> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality
>>> relatively poor.
>>> 
>>> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
>>> 
>>> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
>>> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
>>> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
>>> 
>>> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you
>>> were
>>> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet -
>>> maybe
>>> later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore
>>> the
>>> numbering dilemma at this stage.
>>> 
>>> Curiouser and curiouser
>>> 
>>> Mike Fuller
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
>>>> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
>>>> 
>>>> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
>>>> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Neil
>>>> -- 
>>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Carlo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID 

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[cm]

It is interesting that the original JPEG files are actually bigger than the 
PDF. They must be using some type of compression. Perhaps Preview uncompressed 
the images and on saving failed to compress them again.

Just idle speculation at this point. :-)

C

On 01/01/2012, at 17:49 , Neil Houghton wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, I'm not sure what is happening. It isn't the page swapping because the
> test I did before replying to Carlo was just opening the file in Preview and
> then re-saving - without any page swapping.
> 
> The original pdf creation was obviously very good - you can actually look at
> the original scanned jp2 files and they are around 70MB worth - before
> cropping etc - the cropped and straightened JP2s are 30MB worth and they
> have compiled them into a 4.2MB pdf - with very good image quality.
> 
> However the 610.4 MB file that Preview produces does seem excessive!!!
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 1/1/12 5:18 PM, Mike Fuller at blis...@tpg.com.au wrote:
> 
>> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
>> 
>> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 pp)
>> from Preview.
>> 
>> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
>> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
>> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality
>> relatively poor.
>> 
>> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
>> 
>> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
>> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
>> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
>> 
>> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you were
>> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet - maybe
>> later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore the
>> numbering dilemma at this stage.
>> 
>> Curiouser and curiouser
>> 
>> Mike Fuller
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
>>> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
>>> 
>>> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
>>> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Carlo,
>>>> 
>>>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
>>>> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
>>>> 
>>>> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
>>>> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
>>>> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
>>>> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: 
>>>> Resulting
>>>> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
>>>> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
>>>> 
>>>> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I 
>>>> could
>>>> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
>>>> re-numbering issue...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Neil
> 
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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[cm]

For what it's worth Neil, I have reproduced on OS X 10.7 exactly the behaviour 
that you are seeing. Namely the downloaded PDF has the customized thumbnail 
numbering scheme before editing (also a blurred page 96). As a test I swapped 
the order of pages 6 and 7 and as a result the customized thumbnail numbering 
disappeared and the PDF file size jumped from 4 MB to 610 MB.

This I would suspect is a bug in Preview. PDF's internally have a large number 
of alternative layout schemes -- it's a bit of a hodge-podge. I suspect that 
the original PDF used a layout scheme that caused Preview to, to use the 
technical term, freak out. When it saved its in-memory representation to disk, 
it made a file far larger than it needed to be.

If this assumption is correct your only recourse for now is to use a different 
application to rearrange your PDF. Given the unusual nature of the bug, and how 
hard it is to trigger it I would guess you may not see a fix for Preview any 
time soon.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 01/01/2012, at 17:18 , Mike Fuller wrote:

> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
> 
> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 pp) 
> from Preview.
> 
> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality 
> relatively poor.
> 
> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
> 
> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
> 
> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you were 
> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet - maybe 
> later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore the 
> numbering dilemma at this stage.
> 
> Curiouser and curiouser
> 
> Mike Fuller
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
>> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
>> 
>> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
>> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carlo,
>>> 
>>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
>>> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
>>> 
>>> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
>>> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
>>> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
>>> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: Resulting
>>> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
>>> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
>>> 
>>> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I could
>>> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
>>> re-numbering issue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>> 
>> 
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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Mike,

Yes, I'm not sure what is happening. It isn't the page swapping because the
test I did before replying to Carlo was just opening the file in Preview and
then re-saving - without any page swapping.

The original pdf creation was obviously very good - you can actually look at
the original scanned jp2 files and they are around 70MB worth - before
cropping etc - the cropped and straightened JP2s are 30MB worth and they
have compiled them into a 4.2MB pdf - with very good image quality.

However the 610.4 MB file that Preview produces does seem excessive!!!


Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 1/1/12 5:18 PM, Mike Fuller at blis...@tpg.com.au wrote:

> I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.
> 
> I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 pp)
> from Preview.
> 
> Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
> Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
> Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality
> relatively poor.
> 
> Another scanned magazine (192 pp)
> 
> Original size 83.3MB - quality good
> Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
> Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor
> 
> So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you were
> asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet - maybe
> later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore the
> numbering dilemma at this stage.
> 
> Curiouser and curiouser
> 
> Mike Fuller
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
>> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
>> 
>> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
>> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carlo,
>>> 
>>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
>>> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
>>> 
>>> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
>>> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
>>> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
>>> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: Resulting
>>> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
>>> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
>>> 
>>> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I could
>>> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
>>> re-numbering issue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil


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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Mike Fuller]

I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8.

I was intrigued by your file sizes Neil so I tried saving a PDF book (52 pp) 
from Preview.

Original size - 5.1MB - quality good
Saved size - 4.9MB using no quartz filter - quality equally good
Saved size - 1.9MB using reduce file size in quartz filter - quality relatively 
poor.

Another scanned magazine (192 pp)

Original size 83.3MB - quality good
Saved size - 83.3MB using no quartz filter - same quality
Saved size - 10.1MB using reduce file size - quality very poor

So what was happening with your file sizes? (which I realise is what you were 
asking originally). I haven't tried swapping pages between copies yet - maybe 
later tonight and I'll let you know the results. I probably won't explore the 
numbering dilemma at this stage.

Curiouser and curiouser

Mike Fuller



On 01/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
> filter does significantly reduce the image quality.
> 
> I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
> do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carlo,
>> 
>> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
>> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
>> 
>> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
>> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
>> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
>> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: Resulting
>> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
>> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
>> 
>> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I could
>> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
>> re-numbering issue...
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
> 
> 
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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Well, thank you Perez. What a good dog you are. I hope your Mum gave you a
nice bone whilst she enjoyed her Bubbles!

I have added some thoughts comments below.


on 1/1/12 8:48 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> This is NOT Ronni replying, (as Ronni isn¹t allowed to or ŒDaniel
> Administrator¹ will unsubscribe her from the mailing list), I am Perez (a very
> smart Toy Poodle who has been well trained by 'Mum Ronni' in IT & Mac
> Support).
> 
> Comments to your interesting concerns are added below.
> 
> On 31/12/2011, at 8:09 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
>> COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).
>> 
>> However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
>> Bubbles confuse me further...
>> 
>> OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):
>> 
>> I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
>> downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
>> been mis-scanned and was unreadable.
>> 
>> THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
>> by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
>> one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
>> different page.
>> 
>> Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
>> contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
>> introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
>> pages and the back cover.
>> 
>> On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
>> Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
>> includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.
>> 
>> When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
>> the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
>> actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
>> the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
>> printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
>> good thing and makes navigation much easier.
>> 
>> So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
>> book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
>> one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
>> enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
>> page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.
>> 
>> At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
>> complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
>> numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
>> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
>> 
>> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
>> numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
>> before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)
> 
> The Thumbnails are always numbered sequentially regardless of the document or
> the viewer, preview, Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader.

Hmmm, whilst that has been my recollection before, the creators of these
pdfs have managed to change this behaviour. I will include some links to
screeenshots showing this, and to the original file, at the end of my reply.


> 
> What is called the ToC (Table of Contents) or ŒBookmarks' in Adobe Acrobat  or
> Adobe Reader view reflects the proper page numbers.

I do not have Acrobat and I had not tried Adobe reader. However, I have now
viewed both the original and modified documents using Reader and find the
same behaviour as in Preview. There does not appear to be a ToC but setting
the navigation view to "Pages" shows the same thumbnails and numbering as
Preview does.


> 
> In Preview App you have to be in thumbnail view to create a multipage pdf
> document so the thumbnail numbers end up being sequential starting at "1" or
> the first page stays at the file name and then the numbering continues at 2
> etc.
>
Yes, I used thumbnail view to delete the faulty page and insert the correct
page but (as per the screenshots listed below) the first 11 thumbnails were
un-numbered and the 12th thumbnail was numbered 6 (to match the printed
page) and the thumbnails were then numbered sequentially up to thumbnail no
118 which corresponded to printed page no 118 and pdf page 124. The
remaining 6 thumbna

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

A further update - even though the file size has doubled - applying this
filter does significantly reduce the image quality.

I may end up just keeping both copies of the book - it feels "wrong" but I
do get all pages in maximum image quality for less than 9MB in total ;o(

Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 1/1/12 2:05 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

> Hi Carlo,
> 
> That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
> of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)
> 
> As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
> 1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
> file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
> 2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: Resulting
> file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
> but MUCH better than 610MB!!
> 
> While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I could
> certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
> re-numbering issue...
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil



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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Carlo,

That's a good tip, thanks - I DID know about this but didn't actually think
of it! - and I can't even blame the bubbles, they came later ;o)

As a simpler test/comparison of this, I tried two things:
1. I opened the 4.2MB file in Preview and then just did a "Save as" with no
file changes or filters applied: Resulting file size was 610.4 MB.
2. I then did the same with the "Reduce file size" filter applied: Resulting
file size was 9.8MB - still well more than double the original file size -
but MUCH better than 610MB!!

While it would be NICE to end up with the original 4.2 MB file size, I could
certainly live with the 9.8MB one. Now, if I could just solve the thumbnail
re-numbering issue...


Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 1/1/12 12:33 PM, cm at cm200...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> In regards to the large size of the modified PDF file here is something you
> can try. The procedure is different depending on whether you are running OS X
> 10.7 Lion or an earlier version of the OS.
> 
> In Lion:
> 1) Display the PDF in Preview
> 2) At the top of the window, just to the right of the document title there is
> a drop down menu that may display to the word "Locked" or it may be blank. In
> either case hover the cursor over this area and a down arrow will appear .
> Click and select "Duplicate" from this drop down menu.
> 3) For the new window that is created with an animation, select from the main
> system menu File > Save...
> 4) Here's the crucial step -- in the drop down dialog used to save the file,
> set the Quartz Filter to Reduce File Size.
> 
> The pre-Lion process is a bit easier:
> 1) Display the PDF in Preview
> 2) From the main system menu select File > Save As...
> 3) In the drop down dialog used to save the file, set the Quartz Filter to
> Reduce File Size.
> 
> A quick note, I did not try this on a pre-Lion version of the OS so I am half
> guessing, and half filling in blanks from memory for that section.
> 
> Let me know if it works.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 31/12/2011, at 20:09 , Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
>> COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).
>> 
>> However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
>> Bubbles confuse me further...
>> 
>> OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):
>> 
>> I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
>> downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
>> been mis-scanned and was unreadable.
>> 
>> THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
>> by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
>> one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
>> different page.
>> 
>> Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
>> contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
>> introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
>> pages and the back cover.
>> 
>> On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
>> Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
>> includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.
>> 
>> When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
>> the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
>> actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
>> the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
>> printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
>> good thing and makes navigation much easier.
>> 
>> So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
>> book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
>> one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
>> enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
>> page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.
>> 
>> At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
>> complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
>> numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
>> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
>> 
>> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so tha

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the suggestion/offer but, no, my problem is not so much making
the changes and replacing the faulty page - I can do that easily enough by
dragging the good page from one book to replace the faulty page in the other
book (since each book has one faulty page but not the same faulty page).

My problem is that when I go to save this corrected book the file size
increased from 4.2 MB to 610.6 MB!! Also the thumbnails which before were
numbered to match the printed page numbers are re-numbered to reflect the
pdf page numbers.


Cheers




Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 31/12/11 11:29 PM, Robert Howells at rhowe...@arach.net.au wrote:

> 
> 
> You could try using PDFpen to make the changes ?
> 
> Alternately - print the faulty page
> 
> Scan it with Vuescan and output as Text
> 
> Create a new page from that text
> 
> Drag that page in to replace the faulty page
> 
> Well you did ask ! ?/
> 
> Happy new year
> 
> Bob
> 
> If you don't have PDFpen
> 
> give me a link of the book and tell me the pages and I will try with PDFpen to
> see what happens



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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[cm]

Hi Neil,

In regards to the large size of the modified PDF file here is something you can 
try. The procedure is different depending on whether you are running OS X 10.7 
Lion or an earlier version of the OS.

In Lion:
1) Display the PDF in Preview
2) At the top of the window, just to the right of the document title there is a 
drop down menu that may display to the word "Locked" or it may be blank. In 
either case hover the cursor over this area and a down arrow will appear . 
Click and select "Duplicate" from this drop down menu.
3) For the new window that is created with an animation, select from the main 
system menu File > Save...
4) Here's the crucial step -- in the drop down dialog used to save the file, 
set the Quartz Filter to Reduce File Size.

The pre-Lion process is a bit easier:
1) Display the PDF in Preview
2) From the main system menu select File > Save As...
3) In the drop down dialog used to save the file, set the Quartz Filter to 
Reduce File Size.

A quick note, I did not try this on a pre-Lion version of the OS so I am half 
guessing, and half filling in blanks from memory for that section.

Let me know if it works.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 31/12/2011, at 20:09 , Neil Houghton wrote:

> First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
> COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).
> 
> However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
> Bubbles confuse me further...
> 
> OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):
> 
> I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
> downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
> been mis-scanned and was unreadable.
> 
> THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
> by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
> one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
> different page.
> 
> Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
> contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
> introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
> pages and the back cover.
> 
> On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
> Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
> includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.
> 
> When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
> the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
> actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
> the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
> printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
> good thing and makes navigation much easier.
> 
> So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
> book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
> one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
> enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
> page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.
> 
> At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
> complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
> numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
> 
> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
> numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
> before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)
> 2. The file size increased from 4.2 MB to 610.6 MB!!
> 
> So, my question is;
> 
> How do I change-out this one problem page in the pdf without Preview:
> 1. increasing the file size by a factor of 150 times
> 2. Renumbering the thumbnails to reflect the pdf page number.
> 
> Or is this just beyond the ability of Preview?
> 
> It's not a MAJOR problem - I can always just  keep the original copies of
> each book - it just seems a bit DUMB ;o)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
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> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
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Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Reg Whitely]

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You are one very clever little pup. Please tell Mum Ronni to have a paws!

Toby and Rosie
(On holiday in Albany with Mummy Elaine and Daddy Reg)

Reg Whitely

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On 01/01/2012, at 8:48 am, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> This is NOT Ronni replying, (as Ronni isn’t allowed to or ‘Daniel 
> Administrator’ will unsubscribe her from the mailing list), I am Perez (a 
> very smart Toy Poodle who has been well trained by 'Mum Ronni' in IT & Mac 
> Support).
> 
> Comments to your interesting concerns are added below.
> 
> On 31/12/2011, at 8:09 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
>> COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).
>> 
>> However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
>> Bubbles confuse me further...
>> 
>> OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):
>> 
>> I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
>> downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
>> been mis-scanned and was unreadable.
>> 
>> THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
>> by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
>> one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
>> different page.
>> 
>> Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
>> contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
>> introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
>> pages and the back cover.
>> 
>> On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
>> Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
>> includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.
>> 
>> When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
>> the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
>> actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
>> the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
>> printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
>> good thing and makes navigation much easier.
>> 
>> So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
>> book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
>> one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
>> enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
>> page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.
>> 
>> At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
>> complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
>> numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
>> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
>> 
>> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
>> numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
>> before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)
> 
> The Thumbnails are always numbered sequentially regardless of the document or 
> the viewer, preview, Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader.
> 
> What is called the ToC (Table of Contents) or ‘Bookmarks' in Adobe Acrobat  
> or Adobe Reader view reflects the proper page numbers.
> 
> In Preview App you have to be in thumbnail view to create a multipage pdf 
> document so the thumbnail numbers end up being sequential starting at "1" or 
> the first page stays at the file name and then the numbering continues at 2 
> etc.
> 
> If you create a multipage document using preview and look at the ToC view, it 
> will only show the name of the first page and no other pages.
> With Acrobat Reader the thumbnails are also just sequentially numbered except 
> here the thumbnails are actually defined as "Rages" - to get the proper 
> numbering of pages you need to look at the 'bookmark' view.
> With Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Reader, the bookmark view is the default, so 
> things seem to be OK unless you switch views; with Preview, the thumbnail 
> view is what we end up with because it's the only way to assemble a pdf, so 
> we end up believing, falsely to some degree. that the numbers shown are page 
> numbers.
> 
> All very interesting and the above information and more can be found at these 
> links:
> 
> <ht

Re: PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Neil,

This is NOT Ronni replying, (as Ronni isn’t allowed to or ‘Daniel 
Administrator’ will unsubscribe her from the mailing list), I am Perez (a very 
smart Toy Poodle who has been well trained by 'Mum Ronni' in IT & Mac Support).

Comments to your interesting concerns are added below.

On 31/12/2011, at 8:09 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
> COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).
> 
> However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
> Bubbles confuse me further...
> 
> OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):
> 
> I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
> downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
> been mis-scanned and was unreadable.
> 
> THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
> by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
> one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
> different page.
> 
> Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
> contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
> introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
> pages and the back cover.
> 
> On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
> Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
> includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.
> 
> When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
> the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
> actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
> the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
> printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
> good thing and makes navigation much easier.
> 
> So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
> book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
> one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
> enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
> page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.
> 
> At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
> complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
> numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
> operation was quite slow and two things happened:
> 
> 1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
> numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
> before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)

The Thumbnails are always numbered sequentially regardless of the document or 
the viewer, preview, Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader.

What is called the ToC (Table of Contents) or ‘Bookmarks' in Adobe Acrobat  or 
Adobe Reader view reflects the proper page numbers.

In Preview App you have to be in thumbnail view to create a multipage pdf 
document so the thumbnail numbers end up being sequential starting at "1" or 
the first page stays at the file name and then the numbering continues at 2 etc.

If you create a multipage document using preview and look at the ToC view, it 
will only show the name of the first page and no other pages.
With Acrobat Reader the thumbnails are also just sequentially numbered except 
here the thumbnails are actually defined as "Rages" - to get the proper 
numbering of pages you need to look at the 'bookmark' view.
With Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Reader, the bookmark view is the default, so 
things seem to be OK unless you switch views; with Preview, the thumbnail view 
is what we end up with because it's the only way to assemble a pdf, so we end 
up believing, falsely to some degree. that the numbers shown are page numbers.

All very interesting and the above information and more can be found at these 
links:

<http://www.ehmac.ca/archive/index.php/t-96524.html>

<http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-ipod-help-troubleshooting/96524-assembling-different-size-pdf-documents-into-one-pdf-file.html>

See, my ‘Mum Ronni’ has trained me well I can use her MacBook Pro (a track pad 
is easier than a mouse) and search on Google.
Oh, Ronni did tell me that she has Acrobat Pro 8 and it does do 'Page numbering 
of PDF' but does not think it will be able to do what you are wishing, but will 
try with Acrobat when she returns from her break.

Cheers and Happy New Year from Perez
  
> 2. The file size increased from 4.2 MB to 610.6 MB!!
> 
> So, my question is;
> 
> 

PDFs, Preview, file size & numbering, Oh My!

[Neil Houghton]

First off, if you are reading this BEFORE midnight... STEP AWAY FROM THE
COMPUTER (go & find the Champagne).

However, not heeding my own instructions, I'm posting this before the
Bubbles confuse me further...

OK, here's my problem (bear with me, it takes a little explaining):

I found a digitised book on The Internet Archive  and
downloaded the pdf - no problems with that except that I found one page had
been mis-scanned and was unreadable.

THEN I found another copy of the SAME book (well same publication, scanned
by a different library) and downloaded that - only to find that it too had
one page that had been mis-scanned and was unreadable - however, it was a
different page.

Now each of these pdfs are around 4MB (one is 4.2 & the other 4.5) and
contain 130 pages - which include the front cover and some un-numbered
introductory leaves, then some numbered pages, then some un-numbered end
pages and the back cover.

On inspection of the original images, the page numbering obviously has the
Title page nominally as page 1 (though it is page 7 of the pdf) but only
includes the printed page numbers on pages 6 to 118.

When these files are viewed in Preview, with the sidebar showing thumbnails,
the creators of the pdfs have cleverly numbered the thumbnails to match the
actual printed page numbers - ie the first thumbnails are un-numbered but
the thumbnail numbering starts with pdf page 12, which happens to have
printed page number 6 and so its thumbnail is numbered 6 - this is a very
good thing and makes navigation much easier.

So far, so good - however I decided it was silly to keep 2 copies of the one
book just because of one problem page - why not delete the problem page from
one book and replace it with the OK page from the other book. This is easy
enough in Preview so I picked one book to be the master, deleted the problem
page and dragged the corresponding page from the sidebar of the other book.

At this point, everything looked fine - the Preview window now had the
complete book with all pages displaying correctly and the thumbnails
numbered correctly - until I saved the file! At which point, the save
operation was quite slow and two things happened:

1. Preview renumbered all the thumbnails so that ALL the thumbnails were
numbered with the pdf page number, rather than the printed page number, as
before (so that the thumbnail for printed page 6 was now numbered 12)
2. The file size increased from 4.2 MB to 610.6 MB!!

So, my question is;

How do I change-out this one problem page in the pdf without Preview:
1. increasing the file size by a factor of 150 times
2. Renumbering the thumbnails to reflect the pdf page number.

Or is this just beyond the ability of Preview?

It's not a MAJOR problem - I can always just  keep the original copies of
each book - it just seems a bit DUMB ;o)

Any ideas?


Cheers


Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

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Re: Preview

[Ronda Brown]

Hi John,

This is part of the Lion Features.

<http://Pondini.org/OSX/LionChanges.html>

If you want to change the settings, go to:
System Preferences > General > Restore windows when quitting and re-opening 
apps.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 19/11/2011, at 7:36 AM, John Thompson  wrote:

> Hi List,
>I am missing something (apart from the area between my ears) in my Preview 
> setup.  Whenever I open a pdf file with Preview, it also opens two or three 
> earlier files viewed.  Have checked through the preferences but must be 
> overlooking something.  This, among some other little annoyances which I am 
> gradually working out, has only occurred since installing Lion.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John T
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Preview

[John Thompson]

Hi List,
I am missing something (apart from the area between my ears) in my 
Preview setup.  Whenever I open a pdf file with Preview, it also opens two or 
three earlier files viewed.  Have checked through the preferences but must be 
overlooking something.  This, among some other little annoyances which I am 
gradually working out, has only occurred since installing Lion.

Thanks

John T
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Re: Annotations in preview

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,

Thanks for that.


on 21/8/11 3:28 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> Sounds like you're using the Tools > Annotate > Add Text command.
> 
Actually I use the show annotations toolbar and work from there to add text,
arrows, boxes ovals etc ­ but it obviously works the same way.
> 
> If you instead use the Add Note command the text will be left-aligned.
> 
> Using the "Add Note", places the notes off the document onto the side.
> If you really need the text placed directly on the document, there is no way
> to change the centre-aligned text.
> 
Yes, I am adding text in various places, sometimes with boxes or ovals round
it and/or arrows to other places on the page. Later, I often do quick checks
using Quicklook without actually re-opening the file, so I prefer to mark-up
³on the page² - so it looks like I¹m stuck with centre-align until Lion.
> 
> This had been an issue with Preview for years and Œapparently¹ (as I haven¹t
> tried it yet, I will and report back),
> They fixed it in Lion!!
> 
Interesting, I sometimes go back in and edit my annotations ­ if the current
version is only centre-align and Lion is only left-align, I wonder what will
happen if I edit a pdf with centre-aligned text in Lion ­ will all the
annotations change to left-align when saving, only the annotations I change,
or what?


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 ³Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
> OS X 10.7 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/08/2011, at 2:24 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm probably missing something obvious here but...
>> 
>> I've been finding the annotations feature of Preview very useful with my
>> genealogy research when I print out a webpage as pdf (say a census search or
>> free BMD search) and then add some notes of my own - say to put a person in
>> context to other research.
>> 
>> Now I can see how to do most of the formatting for these notes - eg change
>> font, change font colour, change font size. However the text always comes
>> out as centre aligned - which is a pain if I'm writing a few lines, I'd much
>> rather just format as left aligned to the text box.
>> 
>> However, after checking (I think) every menu I still cannot see how to do
>> this!!
>> 
>> It seems unlikely that Apple would build all this functionality into preview
>> and then limit you to centre aligned text...
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Neil






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Re: Annotations in preview

[Eugene]

Speech bubbles and thought bubbles were already available in the previous preview. Simply Show Inspector (cmd+i) and select the last tab.
                      Regards,                      Eugene                  

On 21/08/2011, at 6:28 PM, Tim Law wrote:Neil,Preview under Lion has added a number of cool features. One of them is that adding text is now left aligned. I cannot find a way to centre or right align it. Left align is fine with me. It also adds the very nice features of a Speech Bubble and a Thought Bubble. Speech bubble creates a circle with an arrow towards the place on the PDF you want to mark. Bit like a paper cartoon. Thought bubble does the same but without the arrow. Instead it has little bubbles going to the place you are marking. The add Note feature is there too, for a more formal way of marking up notes.These, plus features of adding links, underlines, strike throughs, adding signatures, Preview continues to be a powerful free PDF tool.TimOn 21/08/2011, at 3:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Neil,Sounds like you're using the Tools > Annotate > Add Text command. If you instead use the Add Note command the text will be left-aligned. Using the "Add Note", places the notes off the document onto the side. If you really need the text placed directly on the document, there is no way to change the centre-aligned text.This had been an issue with Preview for years and ‘apparently’ (as I haven’t tried it yet, I will and report back),They fixed it in Lion!!Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HDOS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard OS X 10.7 LionWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)On 21/08/2011, at 2:24 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:Hi all,I'm probably missing something obvious here but...I've been finding the annotations feature of Preview very useful with mygenealogy research when I print out a webpage as pdf (say a census search orfree BMD search) and then add some notes of my own - say to put a person incontext to other research.Now I can see how to do most of the formatting for these notes - eg changefont, change font colour, change font size. However the text always comesout as centre aligned - which is a pain if I'm writing a few lines, I'd muchrather just format as left aligned to the text box.However, after checking (I think) every menu I still cannot see how to dothis!!It seems unlikely that Apple would build all this functionality into previewand then limit you to centre aligned text...Any ideas?CheersNeil-- Neil R. HoughtonAlbany, Western AustraliaTel: +61 8 9841 6063Email: n...@possumology.com



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Re: Annotations in preview

[Tim Law]

Neil,

Preview under Lion has added a number of cool features. 

One of them is that adding text is now left aligned. I cannot find a way to 
centre or right align it. Left align is fine with me. 

It also adds the very nice features of a Speech Bubble and a Thought Bubble. 

Speech bubble creates a circle with an arrow towards the place on the PDF you 
want to mark. Bit like a paper cartoon. 

Thought bubble does the same but without the arrow. Instead it has little 
bubbles going to the place you are marking. 

The add Note feature is there too, for a more formal way of marking up notes.

These, plus features of adding links, underlines, strike throughs, adding 
signatures, Preview continues to be a powerful free PDF tool.

Tim



On 21/08/2011, at 3:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> Sounds like you're using the Tools > Annotate > Add Text command. 
> If you instead use the Add Note command the text will be left-aligned. 
> 
> Using the "Add Note", places the notes off the document onto the side. 
> If you really need the text placed directly on the document, there is no way 
> to change the centre-aligned text.
> 
> This had been an issue with Preview for years and ‘apparently’ (as I haven’t 
> tried it yet, I will and report back),
> They fixed it in Lion!!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard 
> OS X 10.7 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/08/2011, at 2:24 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm probably missing something obvious here but...
>> 
>> I've been finding the annotations feature of Preview very useful with my
>> genealogy research when I print out a webpage as pdf (say a census search or
>> free BMD search) and then add some notes of my own - say to put a person in
>> context to other research.
>> 
>> Now I can see how to do most of the formatting for these notes - eg change
>> font, change font colour, change font size. However the text always comes
>> out as centre aligned - which is a pain if I'm writing a few lines, I'd much
>> rather just format as left aligned to the text box.
>> 
>> However, after checking (I think) every menu I still cannot see how to do
>> this!!
>> 
>> It seems unlikely that Apple would build all this functionality into preview
>> and then limit you to centre aligned text...
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Annotations in preview

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Neil,

Sounds like you're using the Tools > Annotate > Add Text command. 
If you instead use the Add Note command the text will be left-aligned. 

Using the "Add Note", places the notes off the document onto the side. 
If you really need the text placed directly on the document, there is no way to 
change the centre-aligned text.

This had been an issue with Preview for years and ‘apparently’ (as I haven’t 
tried it yet, I will and report back),
They fixed it in Lion!!


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On 21/08/2011, at 2:24 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm probably missing something obvious here but...
> 
> I've been finding the annotations feature of Preview very useful with my
> genealogy research when I print out a webpage as pdf (say a census search or
> free BMD search) and then add some notes of my own - say to put a person in
> context to other research.
> 
> Now I can see how to do most of the formatting for these notes - eg change
> font, change font colour, change font size. However the text always comes
> out as centre aligned - which is a pain if I'm writing a few lines, I'd much
> rather just format as left aligned to the text box.
> 
> However, after checking (I think) every menu I still cannot see how to do
> this!!
> 
> It seems unlikely that Apple would build all this functionality into preview
> and then limit you to centre aligned text...
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
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> Albany, Western Australia
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Annotations in preview

[Neil Houghton]

Hi all,

I'm probably missing something obvious here but...

I've been finding the annotations feature of Preview very useful with my
genealogy research when I print out a webpage as pdf (say a census search or
free BMD search) and then add some notes of my own - say to put a person in
context to other research.

Now I can see how to do most of the formatting for these notes - eg change
font, change font colour, change font size. However the text always comes
out as centre aligned - which is a pain if I'm writing a few lines, I'd much
rather just format as left aligned to the text box.

However, after checking (I think) every menu I still cannot see how to do
this!!

It seems unlikely that Apple would build all this functionality into preview
and then limit you to centre aligned text...

Any ideas?


Cheers


Neil
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Re: Merge files in Preview

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks, Jane

On 29/07/2011, at 2:49 PM, Jane Griffiths wrote:

> Hi Severin
> 
> Open both pdf files in Preview.
> You need to have the sidebar open showing the thumbnail views of each pdf.
> Then drag one pdf on top of the other to merge the two.
> 
> It's better explained in this Apple support document.
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4075
> 
> Cheers
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2011, at 2:43 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> How do I merge .pdf files in Preview?   I can do it in Acrobat but not in 
>> Preview!
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
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>>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
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Re: Merge files in Preview

[Jane Griffiths]

Hi Severin

Open both pdf files in Preview.
You need to have the sidebar open showing the thumbnail views of each pdf.
Then drag one pdf on top of the other to merge the two.

It's better explained in this Apple support document.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4075

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> How do I merge .pdf files in Preview?   I can do it in Acrobat but not in 
> Preview!
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Merge files in Preview

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How do I merge .pdf files in Preview?   I can do it in Acrobat but not in 
Preview!
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Re: Rotating text in Preview & excel analysis pak

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Chris and All,

Many thanks for the information and feedback. This will come in handy for
those of us using Excel.

Kind regards,

Philippe

2011/7/11 Chris Burton 

>
> Hi Ronni, Philippe and others
>
> Just thought I would let you know how I went with the Analysis ToolPak with
> excel.
>
> Microsoft has indeed dis-continued the use of the above add-in but does has
> Solver, for 2011 Excel.
>
> I have downloaded and installed the alternative for the ToolPak,
> StatPlus:mac 2009 and it seems to be pretty good. Easy to use, with
> tutorials on different stats to use, and how to use them with your data in
> Excel.
>
> This is an LE (light) version and they ask you to upgrade to the Pro
> version, which does has a lot more options and stats procedures.
>
> I will give a reasonable go over the coming months.
>
> Best regards
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher L.K. Burton
> Director
> Western Whale Research
> PO Box 1076
> Dunsborough WA 6281
> Mobile: 0419 199 120
> Email: c...@it.net.au
>
> On 03/07/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Ronni and Philippe
> >
> > Thanks very much for your very helpful advice and links. I will get to
> and check them out, and let you know how it goes.
> >
> > Philippe yes I found similar sites that say Microsoft expects us to use
> an LE version of StatPlus: Mac. Im not sure about it but will use at the
> last resort after I look at Ronni's suggestions.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 03/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Chris,
> >>
> >> <
> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mac/forum/macoffice2011-macexcel/what-happened-to-the-data-analysis-toolpak-or/740ff33a-6ed9-4553-bc09-5cef06ce5f23
> >
> >>
> >> Solver was added to Office for Mac 2011 in the Service Pack 1 update.
> You can download and install Office for Mac 2011’s Service Pack 1 by
> clicking on the link below:
> >> <
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=EF1E612F-D8E3-4628-9FE4-AD136F0DEBD3&displaylang=en
> >
> >>
> >> After you install Service Pack 1, follow these steps to start Solver:
> >>  • Start Excel.
> >>  • Click Tools, and then select Add-Ins.
> >>  • Click to select the check box for Solver.Xlam.
> >>  • Click OK.
> >>
> >> <
> http://blog.officeformac.com/solver-for-excel-for-mac-2011-free-download-gives-you-what-if-analysis-on-steroids/
> >
> >>
> >> Solver for Excel for Mac 2011
> >> http://www.solver.com/mac/
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ronni
> >>
> >> On 03/07/2011, at 10:00 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ronni
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at
> the installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA
> install.
> >>>
> >>> However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak.
> >>> When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find
> the Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the
> Analysis ToolPak.
> >>>
> >>> There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need
> to download this?
> >>>
> >>> Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> >>>
> 
>  On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
> 
> > Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in
> the new Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support
> the Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions.
> >
> > Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to
>  revert to 3rd party software!!
> 
>  Hi Chris,
> 
>  Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac
> Office?
> 
>  Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from
> Excel 2008.
>  Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the
> same way Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel
> 2011
> 
>  Have a read here:
>  2011 without UDFs?
>  <
> http://blog.mclaughlinsoftware.com/2010/11/04/excel-2011-without-udfs/>
> 
>  Sent from Ronni's iPad
> >>
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Re: Rotating text in Preview & excel analysis pak

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni, Philippe and others

Just thought I would let you know how I went with the Analysis ToolPak with 
excel.

Microsoft has indeed dis-continued the use of the above add-in but does has 
Solver, for 2011 Excel.

I have downloaded and installed the alternative for the ToolPak, StatPlus:mac 
2009 and it seems to be pretty good. Easy to use, with tutorials on different 
stats to use, and how to use them with your data in Excel. 

This is an LE (light) version and they ask you to upgrade to the Pro version, 
which does has a lot more options and stats procedures.

I will give a reasonable go over the coming months.

Best regards

Chris

Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 03/07/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

> 
> Hi Ronni and Philippe
> 
> Thanks very much for your very helpful advice and links. I will get to and 
> check them out, and let you know how it goes.
> 
> Philippe yes I found similar sites that say Microsoft expects us to use an LE 
> version of StatPlus: Mac. Im not sure about it but will use at the last 
> resort after I look at Ronni's suggestions.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On 03/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Solver was added to Office for Mac 2011 in the Service Pack 1 update. You 
>> can download and install Office for Mac 2011’s Service Pack 1 by clicking on 
>> the link below:
>> 
>> 
>> After you install Service Pack 1, follow these steps to start Solver:
>>  • Start Excel.
>>  • Click Tools, and then select Add-Ins.
>>  • Click to select the check box for Solver.Xlam.
>>  • Click OK.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Solver for Excel for Mac 2011
>> http://www.solver.com/mac/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 03/07/2011, at 10:00 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at the 
>>> installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA 
>>> install.
>>> 
>>> However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak. 
>>> When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find the 
>>> Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the Analysis 
>>> ToolPak.
>>> 
>>> There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need to 
>>> download this?
>>> 
>>> Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 
 On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
 
> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the 
> new Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support 
> the Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous 
> versions. 
> 
> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert 
> to 3rd party software!!
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac 
 Office?
 
 Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel 
 2008.
 Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same 
 way Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 
 2011
 
 Have a read here:
 2011 without UDFs?
 
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
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[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni and Philippe

Thanks very much for your very helpful advice and links. I will get to and 
check them out, and let you know how it goes.

Philippe yes I found similar sites that say Microsoft expects us to use an LE 
version of StatPlus: Mac. Im not sure about it but will use at the last resort 
after I look at Ronni's suggestions.

Kind regards

Chris


On 03/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> 
> 
> Solver was added to Office for Mac 2011 in the Service Pack 1 update. You can 
> download and install Office for Mac 2011’s Service Pack 1 by clicking on the 
> link below:
> 
> 
> After you install Service Pack 1, follow these steps to start Solver:
>   • Start Excel.
>   • Click Tools, and then select Add-Ins.
>   • Click to select the check box for Solver.Xlam.
>   • Click OK.
> 
> 
> 
> Solver for Excel for Mac 2011
> http://www.solver.com/mac/
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 03/07/2011, at 10:00 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at the 
>> installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA 
>> install.
>> 
>> However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak. 
>> When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find the 
>> Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the Analysis 
>> ToolPak.
>> 
>> There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need to 
>> download this?
>> 
>> Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
>>> 
 Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the 
 new Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support 
 the Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 
 
 Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 
 3rd party software!!
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac 
>>> Office?
>>> 
>>> Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel 
>>> 2008.
>>> Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same 
>>> way Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 2011
>>> 
>>> Have a read here:
>>> 2011 without UDFs?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> 
> 
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,



Solver was added to Office for Mac 2011 in the Service Pack 1 update. You can 
download and install Office for Mac 2011’s Service Pack 1 by clicking on the 
link below:

 
After you install Service Pack 1, follow these steps to start Solver:
• Start Excel.
• Click Tools, and then select Add-Ins.
• Click to select the check box for Solver.Xlam.
• Click OK.
 


Solver for Excel for Mac 2011
http://www.solver.com/mac/

Cheers,
Ronni

On 03/07/2011, at 10:00 AM, Chris Burton wrote:

> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at the 
> installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA 
> install.
> 
> However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak. 
> When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find the 
> Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the Analysis 
> ToolPak.
> 
> There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need to 
> download this?
> 
> Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the new 
>>> Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the 
>>> Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 
>>> 
>>> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 
>>> 3rd party software!!
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac Office?
>> 
>> Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel 
>> 2008.
>> Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same 
>> way Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 2011
>> 
>> Have a read here:
>> 2011 without UDFs?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad




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Re: Rotating text in Preview

[Philippe Chaperon]

Good morning Chris & All,

I am not sure if this can help, but I do not have the Analysis ToolPak in my
Office 2011 version (latest one). Instead this I what Excel returns when I
did a search for the Analysis Tool:

Cause: Excel 2011 does not include the Analysis ToolPak.
Solution: Download StatPlus:mac LE for free from AnalystSoft, and then use
StatPlus:mac LE with Excel 2011.

You can use StatPlus:mac LE to perform many of the functions that were
previously available in the Analysis ToolPak, such as regressions,
histograms, analysis of variance (ANOVA), and t-tests.

   1.

   Visit the AnalystSoft Web
site[image:
   Click this link to open a browser
window.],
   and then follow the instructions on the download page.
   2.

   After you have downloaded and installed StatPlus:mac LE, open the
   workbook that contains the data that you want to analyze.
   3.

   Open StatPlus:mac LE. The functions are located on the StatPlus:mac LE
   menus.

Note  Excel 2011 does not include Help for StatPlus:mac LE. Help for
StatPlus:mac LE is provided by AnalystSoft.
Hope this can help.

Kind regards,

Philippe Chaperon


2011/7/3 Chris Burton 

>
> Hi Ronni
>
> Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at the
> installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA
> install.
>
> However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak.
> When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find the
> Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the Analysis
> ToolPak.
>
> There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need to
> download this?
>
> Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>
> >
> > On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
> >
> >> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the
> new Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the
> Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions.
> >>
> >> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert
> to 3rd party software!!
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac
> Office?
> >
> > Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel
> 2008.
> > Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same
> way Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 2011
> >
> > Have a read here:
> > 2011 without UDFs?
> > 
> >
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[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thanks very much for your reply and link. I had another good look at the 
installation disk and found the customise section and included the VBA install.

However there is no sign of the Analysis ToolPak. 
When I reopened Excel I have a small window appear, saying 'Cannot find the 
Analysis ToolPak'. Please run the ValuePack Setup to install the Analysis 
ToolPak.

There is no ValuePak Setup on my mac or on the install DVD? Do I need to 
download this?

Kindest regards and many thanks Ronni

Chris


On 02/07/2011, at 2:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:
> 
>> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the new 
>> Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the 
>> Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 
>> 
>> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 
>> 3rd party software!!
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac Office?
> 
> Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel 
> 2008.
> Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same way 
> Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 2011
> 
> Have a read here:
> 2011 without UDFs?
> 
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
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Re: Rotating text in Preview

[Ronda Brown]

On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton  wrote:

> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the new 
> Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the 
> Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 
> 
> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 
> 3rd party software!!

Hi Chris,

 Did you perform a standard installation or custom installation of Mac Office?

Microsoft returned the Analysis Toolpak add-in that it removed from Excel 2008.
Microsoft says that the new version of Excel supports the add-in the same way 
Excel 2008 did, and that the add-in’s basic functions work in Excel 2011

Have a read here:
 2011 without UDFs?


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Re: Rotating text in Preview

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or use a drawing app or photoshop, create the text, rotate then export to jpg 
or better png (if transparency is needed) because your text is now a pic it can 
be resized & rotated with preview

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On 02/07/2011, at 1:30 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> What a great idea Ronni. I really like the way you think...that is certainly 
> lateral!
> 
> I will try this and if I cant get what I want I will use PS5 at last resort.
> 
> Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the new 
> Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the 
> Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 
> 
> Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 
> 3rd party software!!
> 
> How nice and thoughtful of them!
> 
> My workaround for this is to crank up my early version of excel (Version X) 
> and use that side by side!
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Email: c...@it.net.au 
> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 12:11 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I don’t think you can actually rotate text in Preview application.
>> There doesn’t appear to be a way to specify text direction, so all text will 
>> be horizontal. 
>> 
>> However, you can rotate the image, then place an annotation, rotate the 
>> image back again, so text can effectively be rotated.
>> 
>> If I can think of anything better I’ll let you know, but that is the only 
>> way I’ve been able to rotate text in Preview.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> On 02/07/2011, at 10:58 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Morning muggers
>>> 
>>> I am unable to rotate various annotations I have done on some google earth 
>>> images (tiffs and jpgs) in Mac Preview, for my presentation this week. Im 
>>> sure I have done it previously in OS 10.5.8, but am not sure if this has 
>>> changed in 10.6.8 on my new laptop?
>>> 
>>> I need to rotate some text boxes and elispses and have  tried all manner of 
>>> key combinations to no avail.
>>> I have also done searches and cant find anything and the help menu doesnt 
>>> mention it?
>>> 
>>> Can someone please help me on this as I am becoming a little anxious?
>>> 
>>> Best regards and thanks for any advice
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Rotating text in Preview

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

What a great idea Ronni. I really like the way you think...that is certainly 
lateral!

I will try this and if I cant get what I want I will use PS5 at last resort.

Also had another shock today while trying to do some basic stats in the new 
Excel 2011 but couldnt do anything as this version does not support the 
Analysis ToolPak, and add in normally supplied with previous versions. 

Apparently Microsoft are not doing this any longer so I have to  revert to 3rd 
party software!!

How nice and thoughtful of them!

My workaround for this is to crank up my early version of excel (Version X) and 
use that side by side!

Many thanks

Chris



Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 02/07/2011, at 12:11 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I don’t think you can actually rotate text in Preview application.
> There doesn’t appear to be a way to specify text direction, so all text will 
> be horizontal. 
> 
> However, you can rotate the image, then place an annotation, rotate the image 
> back again, so text can effectively be rotated.
> 
> If I can think of anything better I’ll let you know, but that is the only way 
> I’ve been able to rotate text in Preview.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 10:58 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Morning muggers
>> 
>> I am unable to rotate various annotations I have done on some google earth 
>> images (tiffs and jpgs) in Mac Preview, for my presentation this week. Im 
>> sure I have done it previously in OS 10.5.8, but am not sure if this has 
>> changed in 10.6.8 on my new laptop?
>> 
>> I need to rotate some text boxes and elispses and have  tried all manner of 
>> key combinations to no avail.
>> I have also done searches and cant find anything and the help menu doesnt 
>> mention it?
>> 
>> Can someone please help me on this as I am becoming a little anxious?
>> 
>> Best regards and thanks for any advice
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Rotating text in Preview

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

I don’t think you can actually rotate text in Preview application.
There doesn’t appear to be a way to specify text direction, so all text will be 
horizontal. 

However, you can rotate the image, then place an annotation, rotate the image 
back again, so text can effectively be rotated.

If I can think of anything better I’ll let you know, but that is the only way 
I’ve been able to rotate text in Preview.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 02/07/2011, at 10:58 AM, Chris Burton wrote:

> 
> Morning muggers
> 
> I am unable to rotate various annotations I have done on some google earth 
> images (tiffs and jpgs) in Mac Preview, for my presentation this week. Im 
> sure I have done it previously in OS 10.5.8, but am not sure if this has 
> changed in 10.6.8 on my new laptop?
> 
> I need to rotate some text boxes and elispses and have  tried all manner of 
> key combinations to no avail.
> I have also done searches and cant find anything and the help menu doesnt 
> mention it?
> 
> Can someone please help me on this as I am becoming a little anxious?
> 
> Best regards and thanks for any advice
> 
> Chris
> 















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Rotating text in Preview

[Chris Burton]

Morning muggers

I am unable to rotate various annotations I have done on some google earth 
images (tiffs and jpgs) in Mac Preview, for my presentation this week. Im sure 
I have done it previously in OS 10.5.8, but am not sure if this has changed in 
10.6.8 on my new laptop?

I need to rotate some text boxes and elispses and have  tried all manner of key 
combinations to no avail.
I have also done searches and cant find anything and the help menu doesnt 
mention it?

Can someone please help me on this as I am becoming a little anxious?

Best regards and thanks for any advice

Chris




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Re: Preview in Safari

[Brian Risbey]

Thank You Ronni

Adobe was gremlin, over stepping the mark, It wasn't set as default application 
for pdf but it thought so!

Trashed preferences as you instructed in point 3. All is well.

Preview is still so much friendlier!


Adobe tool bar eventually showed itself on a pdf in Safari!


Brian

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On 02/05/2011, at 12:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Brian,

Same results as Carlo in Safari 5.0.5  OS X 10.6.7 on my Macs.

1. Can you view the PDF Viewing Tools in Safari?
To see the toolbar, move the pointer to the bottom-center of the page. 
If you move the pointer away from the toolbar, it disappears after a moment.

The toolbar has four buttons. Point to each button to see what it does.

If the type is too small or too large, click the “Zoom in” (+) and “Zoom out” 
(-) buttons.

To view the PDF file in Preview, click the “Open PDF in Preview” button. 

2. Do you have Preview set as your Default PDF reader on your Mac?
Find a PDF file you already have on the hard drive, then “command-i” on the PDF
In the Get Info window click the pop up menu next to: Open with. Choose 
Preview. Change All

Relaunch Safari.

3. If you are still having the problem

Go to HD / Library / Internet Plug-ins / and delete the AdobePDFViewer.plugin.
Quit Safari and relaunch. 


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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On 02/05/2011, at 12:11 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> I checked on my MacBook, and Control+click still gives me the menu option to 
> view a pdf in the Preview app, so there seems to be some sort of problem or 
> conflict with you configuration. 
> 
> My setup is:
>   Safari Version 5.0.5
>   OS X Version 10.6.7
> 
> Are you running the latest versions?
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> 
> On 2011-05-02, at 11:50, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> After downloading a pdf in Safari, I had been able to control+ click, bring 
>> up a menu and then open the pdf in Preview, this option has gone, is Adobe 
>> Acrobat playing with my defaults?
>> 
>> Thank you for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 













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Re: Preview in Safari

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Brian,

Same results as Carlo in Safari 5.0.5  OS X 10.6.7 on my Macs.

1. Can you view the PDF Viewing Tools in Safari?
To see the toolbar, move the pointer to the bottom-center of the page. 
If you move the pointer away from the toolbar, it disappears after a moment.

The toolbar has four buttons. Point to each button to see what it does.

If the type is too small or too large, click the “Zoom in” (+) and “Zoom out” 
(-) buttons.

To view the PDF file in Preview, click the “Open PDF in Preview” button. 

2. Do you have Preview set as your Default PDF reader on your Mac?
Find a PDF file you already have on the hard drive, then “command-i” on the PDF
In the Get Info window click the pop up menu next to: Open with. Choose 
Preview. Change All

Relaunch Safari.

3. If you are still having the problem

Go to HD / Library / Internet Plug-ins / and delete the AdobePDFViewer.plugin.
Quit Safari and relaunch. 


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)




On 02/05/2011, at 12:11 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> I checked on my MacBook, and Control+click still gives me the menu option to 
> view a pdf in the Preview app, so there seems to be some sort of problem or 
> conflict with you configuration. 
> 
> My setup is:
>   Safari Version 5.0.5
>   OS X Version 10.6.7
> 
> Are you running the latest versions?
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> 
> On 2011-05-02, at 11:50, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> After downloading a pdf in Safari, I had been able to control+ click, bring 
>> up a menu and then open the pdf in Preview, this option has gone, is Adobe 
>> Acrobat playing with my defaults?
>> 
>> Thank you for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 













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Re: Preview in Safari

[cm]

Hi Brian,

I checked on my MacBook, and Control+click still gives me the menu option to 
view a pdf in the Preview app, so there seems to be some sort of problem or 
conflict with you configuration. 

My setup is:
Safari Version 5.0.5
OS X Version 10.6.7

Are you running the latest versions?

Cheers,
Carlo



On 2011-05-02, at 11:50, Brian Risbey wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> After downloading a pdf in Safari, I had been able to control+ click, bring 
> up a menu and then open the pdf in Preview, this option has gone, is Adobe 
> Acrobat playing with my defaults?
> 
> Thank you for your thoughts.
> 
> Brian
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Preview in Safari

[Brian Risbey]

Hi everyone,

After downloading a pdf in Safari, I had been able to control+ click, bring up 
a menu and then open the pdf in Preview, this option has gone, is Adobe Acrobat 
playing with my defaults?

Thank you for your thoughts.

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Re: Preview - Print multi copies?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 19/04/2011, at 8:52 PM, Robin Belford wrote:

> Just to the right of the printer name in the print dialog box is a button 
> with a down pointing triangle on it.
> Click on that triangle and the full dialog box will be revealed.
> 
> r
> 

I earnestly hope that Apple drops this "feature" in Lion. Of all the puzzling 
interface decisions ever made by Apple (and thankfully it's not a long list), 
this button on the Print Dialog would have to be close to the top as one of the 
most puzzling. I have never been able to workout (a) its reason for existing in 
the first place, and (b) why it is set to "on" by default. It is by far the 
biggest time-wasting trap for new players that I know, and one of the least 
obvious for them to work out what's going wrong. It hides all the useful things 
you want in a Print Dialog, the very least being the pages to print and the 
number of copies. It seems completely pointless. If anyone knows or has read of 
any justification for its existence, I'd love to hear from them.  

If Apple simply announced that this button will be disappearing in Lion, that 
alone would almost justify the cost of admission, IMHO. 

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Re: Preview - Print multi copies?

[Alan Smith]

Thanks Robin - that's it!

Thanks also to Robert H and Neil H, who showed that it is possible.

Cheers, Alan


On 19/04/2011, at 8:52 PM, Robin Belford wrote:


Just to the right of the printer name in the print dialog box is a button with 
a down pointing triangle on it.
Click on that triangle and the full dialog box will be revealed.

r

On 19/04/2011, at 8:49 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

> 
> Hi Neil
> 
> Thanks for response - but from the Preview menu when I select File>Print (or 
> File>Print Selected Page) i get  a small dialog box just to select the 
> Printer and Presets; with buttons for Help(?), PDF, Preview (the verb!), 
> Cancel and Print.   The Print button sends the job immediately to the 
> printer.   Yes, it is the print multiple copies and collate dialog box I want!
> 
> If you have the full print dialog box I'll keep looking on my iMac.  I tried 
> various preferences, right clicks and option clicks etc without effect.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> 
> On 19/04/2011, at 7:35 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> 
> I also have version 5.0.3 - and it the print dialogue it offers a "copies"
> box to allow you to make multiple copies and a "collated" check box if you
> wish to collate multiple copies of multi-page documents.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 19/4/11 7:06 PM, Alan Smith at sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Is there a print option within Preview to print multiple copies of a doc (as
>> Pages does, for example)?   Or a work around?  Preview is vers 5.0.3.
>> 
>> I don't want to install Adobe Reader just for the few occasions when I need 
>> to
>> print several copies of a PDF file.  I think Preview is an excellent program
>> but for this minor hassle.
>> 
>> Regards, Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>> iMac 2009, Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz, 4MB, OSX 10.6.7
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Preview - Print multi copies?

[Robin Belford]

Just to the right of the printer name in the print dialog box is a button with 
a down pointing triangle on it.
Click on that triangle and the full dialog box will be revealed.

r

On 19/04/2011, at 8:49 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

> 
> Hi Neil
> 
> Thanks for response - but from the Preview menu when I select File>Print (or 
> File>Print Selected Page) i get  a small dialog box just to select the 
> Printer and Presets; with buttons for Help(?), PDF, Preview (the verb!), 
> Cancel and Print.   The Print button sends the job immediately to the 
> printer.   Yes, it is the print multiple copies and collate dialog box I want!
> 
> If you have the full print dialog box I'll keep looking on my iMac.  I tried 
> various preferences, right clicks and option clicks etc without effect.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> 
> On 19/04/2011, at 7:35 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> 
> I also have version 5.0.3 - and it the print dialogue it offers a "copies"
> box to allow you to make multiple copies and a "collated" check box if you
> wish to collate multiple copies of multi-page documents.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 19/4/11 7:06 PM, Alan Smith at sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Is there a print option within Preview to print multiple copies of a doc (as
>> Pages does, for example)?   Or a work around?  Preview is vers 5.0.3.
>> 
>> I don't want to install Adobe Reader just for the few occasions when I need 
>> to
>> print several copies of a PDF file.  I think Preview is an excellent program
>> but for this minor hassle.
>> 
>> Regards, Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>> iMac 2009, Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz, 4MB, OSX 10.6.7
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Preview - Print multi copies?

[Alan Smith]

Hi Neil

Thanks for response - but from the Preview menu when I select File>Print (or 
File>Print Selected Page) i get  a small dialog box just to select the Printer 
and Presets; with buttons for Help(?), PDF, Preview (the verb!), Cancel and 
Print.   The Print button sends the job immediately to the printer.   Yes, it 
is the print multiple copies and collate dialog box I want!

If you have the full print dialog box I'll keep looking on my iMac.  I tried 
various preferences, right clicks and option clicks etc without effect.

Cheers,
Alan


On 19/04/2011, at 7:35 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Alan,


I also have version 5.0.3 - and it the print dialogue it offers a "copies"
box to allow you to make multiple copies and a "collated" check box if you
wish to collate multiple copies of multi-page documents.

Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
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Email: n...@possumology.com




on 19/4/11 7:06 PM, Alan Smith at sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> 
> Is there a print option within Preview to print multiple copies of a doc (as
> Pages does, for example)?   Or a work around?  Preview is vers 5.0.3.
> 
> I don't want to install Adobe Reader just for the few occasions when I need to
> print several copies of a PDF file.  I think Preview is an excellent program
> but for this minor hassle.
> 
> Regards, Alan
> 
> Alan Smith
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Re: Preview - Print multi copies?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Alan,


I also have version 5.0.3 - and it the print dialogue it offers a "copies"
box to allow you to make multiple copies and a "collated" check box if you
wish to collate multiple copies of multi-page documents.

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> 
> Is there a print option within Preview to print multiple copies of a doc (as
> Pages does, for example)?   Or a work around?  Preview is vers 5.0.3.
> 
> I don't want to install Adobe Reader just for the few occasions when I need to
> print several copies of a PDF file.  I think Preview is an excellent program
> but for this minor hassle.
> 
> Regards, Alan
> 
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Preview - Print multi copies?

[Alan Smith]

Is there a print option within Preview to print multiple copies of a doc (as 
Pages does, for example)?   Or a work around?  Preview is vers 5.0.3.

I don't want to install Adobe Reader just for the few occasions when I need to 
print several copies of a PDF file.  I think Preview is an excellent program 
but for this minor hassle.

Regards, Alan

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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 07/12/2010, at 9:39 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
> 
> I also found another way.  Cut and paste from source. Drop into the field, 
> then repeat the drop.   First time pass is original font, second time is the 
> font as set up in FM.
> 

Again, Cmd-Z does the same thing. Paste, then press Cmd-Z. The font will change 
to that defined for the field.

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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Bill Parker]

Thanks Peter,

I also found another way.  Cut and paste from source. Drop into the  
field, then repeat the drop.   First time pass is original font,  
second time is the font as set up in FM.



Bill

On 07/12/2010, at 7:45 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 06/12/2010, at 10:50 AM, Bill Parker wrote:


Peter,

I have set up a database with 7 fields.   Those fields correspond  
to elements in PDFs I have (conference papers: authors, abstracts  
etc).   I drag and drop from PDF segment to field (Not Cut and  
Paste).  I then see my data appear in FM.   I use Adobe because the  
text in the fields is in the font I set up, not the PDF's fonts  
( variable).   If I use Preview  I get what was in the PDF.   The  
FM database when built gets used ultimately on a website.





I know the problem you're talking about, and it's not restricted to  
PDFs. It also often happens to me when I drag and drop from a web  
page. The fix is to press Cmd-Z immediately after the drop, while  
the cursor is still in the field. The text will change to the  
default font of the field.



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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 06/12/2010, at 10:50 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> I have set up a database with 7 fields.   Those fields correspond to elements 
> in PDFs I have (conference papers: authors, abstracts etc).   I drag and drop 
> from PDF segment to field (Not Cut and Paste).  I then see my data appear in 
> FM.   I use Adobe because the text in the fields is in the font I set up, not 
> the PDF's fonts ( variable).   If I use Preview  I get what was in the PDF.   
> The FM database when built gets used ultimately on a website.
> 


I know the problem you're talking about, and it's not restricted to PDFs. It 
also often happens to me when I drag and drop from a web page. The fix is to 
press Cmd-Z immediately after the drop, while the cursor is still in the field. 
The text will change to the default font of the field.


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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Bill Parker]

Peter,

I have set up a database with 7 fields.   Those fields correspond to  
elements in PDFs I have (conference papers: authors, abstracts etc).
I drag and drop from PDF segment to field (Not Cut and Paste).  I then  
see my data appear in FM.   I use Adobe because the text in the fields  
is in the font I set up, not the PDF's fonts ( variable).   If I use  
Preview  I get what was in the PDF.   The FM database when built gets  
used ultimately on a website.



I have Ronni's suggestion (thanks) to hand I will use that if needs  
be.   Preview makes it harder - and with several hundred entries that  
all need some degree of reading ( lazy authors who do not provide  
their own keywords...!) I need smooth travel.



Bill
On 06/12/2010, at 9:09 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 06/12/2010, at 8:50 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



I have a task that requires transferring details of academic  
papers from PDFs into Filemaker Pro ( Ver 11).


I have found that no matter what I do, the last step will not work  
with a Preview PDF but will work with Adobe 8 Pro PDF.


Is there anyway I can switch off Preview temporarily?





I have not experienced this at all. I have never felt the need to  
resort to Acrobat when dealing with PDFs in Filemaker Pro (ver 11 or  
any other). What is it that's not working? Is the container field  
simply not accepting the PDF, or is that the PDF does not open once  
inserted?


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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 06/12/2010, at 8:50 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

>> 
>> I have a task that requires transferring details of academic papers from 
>> PDFs into Filemaker Pro ( Ver 11).
>> 
>> I have found that no matter what I do, the last step will not work with a 
>> Preview PDF but will work with Adobe 8 Pro PDF.
>> 
>> Is there anyway I can switch off Preview temporarily?
> 


I have not experienced this at all. I have never felt the need to resort to 
Acrobat when dealing with PDFs in Filemaker Pro (ver 11 or any other). What is 
it that's not working? Is the container field simply not accepting the PDF, or 
is that the PDF does not open once inserted?

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Re: Preview and Filemaker

[Ronda Brown]

On 06/12/2010, at 8:11 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> 
> I have a task that requires transferring details of academic papers from PDFs 
> into Filemaker Pro ( Ver 11).
> 
> I have found that no matter what I do, the last step will not work with a 
> Preview PDF but will work with Adobe 8 Pro PDF.
> 
> Is there anyway I can switch off Preview temporarily?

Hi Bill,

Do you mean you wish to have Adobe Acrobat Professional.app (8.) as the default 
application to open all PDFs?
If so:
1. Highlight a PDF
2. Go to File > Get Info
3. Select Adobe Acrobat Professional.app (8.0) (or what version you have)
4. Click "Change All"

If this isn't what you mean please post back.

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Preview and Filemaker

[Bill Parker]

I have a task that requires transferring details of academic papers  
from PDFs into Filemaker Pro ( Ver 11).


I have found that no matter what I do, the last step will not work  
with a Preview PDF but will work with Adobe 8 Pro PDF.


Is there anyway I can switch off Preview temporarily?

Bill


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Re: Preview vs Acrobat Pro for scanning

[Severin Crisp]

For the record, both Preview v4.2 and Acrobat Pro v9.3.4 instantly  
recognised and scanned from my Epson Perfection 3200 Photo scanner.   
OSX 10.5.8

Severin Crisp

On 10/09/2010, at 10:22 PM, Tim Law wrote:



All,

This is more a story than a question.

I've recently upgraded to the Adobe suite of several useful products  
such as Dreamweaver, InDesign, Photoshop and Acrobat Pro.


I dug out an old Multi Function printer/scanner - Lexmark X3330 -  
and plugged it into the USB port so I could scan a document. I'd not  
used this printer on this computer before - my Mac Mini using 10.6.4


First I tried Preview.
Under File Menu I find 'Import from Scanner' then selected Lexmark  
X3330 that was displayed as the scanner of choice.
It immediately did exactly what I needed and scanned the document.  
Very nice I thought. Remember I'd not installed anything for this  
printer, Mac OS had found the right driver and made all the right  
connections for this to just work.


Then I tried Adobe Acrobat Pro,  looking forward to what the best of  
Adobe could do for me.

Hmmm, I can't get very far.
It had one Scanning device preinstalled, a Canon MP470, which won't  
connect to my scanner.
I downloaded the latest drivers to suit my OS and the Lexmark  
printer/scanner, and installed them.
Still no luck with Acrobat picking up the newly installed printer  
software.

Restart computer just in case that would make a difference.
Nope, no luck.
Instructions were no help at all, it just appears to not like my  
scanner, nor want to be helpful in helping me find a solution.  
Plenty of PC based answers, just very short of Mac solutions.


I don't particularly care about this, so don't want anyone to fuss  
about helping me work it out, it's moreso another example of how  
useful Preview is out of the box.   Of course, if there is a simple  
solution, I'd be happy to know.


BTW, I was also able to scan using the Print driver in System  
Preferences - all very simple and straight forward, unlike Acrobat  
Pro!!


Long live Preview  :-)


Tim


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Re: Preview/Copy

[Stuart Breden]

Good advice again Ronni.

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On 12/09/2010, at 3:07 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 12/09/2010, at 2:00 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:



In some PDF's I open in Preview I can copy details in the PDF.  In  
some I can't.


Who is this happening in some PDF's and not in others?


Hello Stuart,

The author of a PDF can elect to disable that functionality. You  
can  create a PDF in which copy is disabled.

Why? Copyright and content theft protection are the normal reasons.

PDF has an option to lock for copy or printing of the document.
This is part of the properties that the creator of the document can  
set.
This could be the reason for you not being able to copy the contents  
of the document ...


Open the PDF in Preview, under "Tools" > Show Inspector -  click on  
'Encyption (the lock) to check if is it locked for copying and /or  
printing..


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Re: Preview vs Acrobat Pro for scanning

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 10/09/2010, at 10:22 PM, Tim Law wrote:


> 
> 
> I don't particularly care about this, so don't want anyone to fuss about 
> helping me work it out, it's moreso another example of how useful Preview is 
> out of the box.   Of course, if there is a simple solution, I'd be happy to 
> know. 
> 
> BTW, I was also able to scan using the Print driver in System Preferences - 
> all very simple and straight forward, unlike Acrobat Pro!!
> 
> Long live Preview  :-)
> 
> 
> Tim
> 

I think this is part of a common affliction shared by several longtime Apple 
software writers, Adobe and Microsoft being notable examples, in that they seem 
unable to recognise that Mac OS X is not MacOS Classic! Mac OS X has always 
used central resources for items such as TWAIN drivers, Address Book, fonts, 
etc, while Classic relied on developers choosing heir own locations, leading to 
much duplication. Adobe in this case are insisting that the TWAIN drivers live 
in their "standard" location which is probably somewhere in their application's 
folder, and it won't be looking for them anywhere else. Preview, of course, is 
looking in the correct Mac OS X location, as will any other correctly-written 
application which allows scanning.


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Re: Preview/Copy

[Lloyd White]

There may be other reasons but this is my experience.

I get a lot of PDFs from clients. Those that I can't copy from are generally
scanned as PDF from the original and can't be copied by Preview.

When this happens I use PDFpenPro. It does a quick ORC or the document and
then you can highlight and copy from it. You then save the document in the
new format and can use it anytime.

Lloyd 




> 
> In some PDF's I open in Preview I can copy details in the PDF.  In some I
> can't.
> 
> Who is this happening in some PDF's and not in others?
> 
> Stuart Breden
> 
> 
> 





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Re: Preview/Copy

[Ronda Brown]

On 12/09/2010, at 2:00 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

> 
> In some PDF's I open in Preview I can copy details in the PDF.  In some I 
> can't.
> 
> Who is this happening in some PDF's and not in others?
> 
Hello Stuart,

The author of a PDF can elect to disable that functionality. You can  create a 
PDF in which copy is disabled.
Why? Copyright and content theft protection are the normal reasons.

PDF has an option to lock for copy or printing of the document. 
This is part of the properties that the creator of the document can set. 
This could be the reason for you not being able to copy the contents of the 
document ... 

Open the PDF in Preview, under "Tools" > Show Inspector -  click on 'Encyption 
(the lock) to check if is it locked for copying and /or printing..

Cheers,
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Preview/Copy

[bredens]

In some PDF's I open in Preview I can copy details in the PDF.  In some I can't.

Who is this happening in some PDF's and not in others?

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Re: Preview vs Acrobat Pro for scanning

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Tim

A couple of times, I've found that although Preview is great, it doesn't
seem to "release" the TWAIN driver to another Application.
Before trying the others, give the machine a restart then go through using
Acrobat first and see how it goes. (Also worth trying Photoshop - Import -
 and see if that works as well.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 10/9/10 10:22 PM, "Tim Law"  wrote:

> 
> All,
> 
> This is more a story than a question.
> 
> I've recently upgraded to the Adobe suite of several useful products such as
> Dreamweaver, InDesign, Photoshop and Acrobat Pro.
> 
> I dug out an old Multi Function printer/scanner - Lexmark X3330 - and plugged
> it into the USB port so I could scan a document. I'd not used this printer on
> this computer before - my Mac Mini using 10.6.4
> 
> First I tried Preview.
> Under File Menu I find 'Import from Scanner' then selected Lexmark X3330 that
> was displayed as the scanner of choice.
> It immediately did exactly what I needed and scanned the document. Very nice I
> thought. Remember I'd not installed anything for this printer, Mac OS had
> found the right driver and made all the right connections for this to just
> work. 
> 
> Then I tried Adobe Acrobat Pro,  looking forward to what the best of Adobe
> could do for me. 
> Hmmm, I can't get very far.
> It had one Scanning device preinstalled, a Canon MP470, which won't connect to
> my scanner.
> I downloaded the latest drivers to suit my OS and the Lexmark printer/scanner,
> and installed them.
> Still no luck with Acrobat picking up the newly installed printer software.
> Restart computer just in case that would make a difference.
> Nope, no luck. 
> Instructions were no help at all, it just appears to not like my scanner, nor
> want to be helpful in helping me find a solution. Plenty of PC based answers,
> just very short of Mac solutions.
> 
> I don't particularly care about this, so don't want anyone to fuss about
> helping me work it out, it's moreso another example of how useful Preview is
> out of the box.   Of course, if there is a simple solution, I'd be happy to
> know. 
> 
> BTW, I was also able to scan using the Print driver in System Preferences -
> all very simple and straight forward, unlike Acrobat Pro!!
> 
> Long live Preview  :-)
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
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Preview vs Acrobat Pro for scanning

[Tim Law]

All,

This is more a story than a question.

I've recently upgraded to the Adobe suite of several useful products such as 
Dreamweaver, InDesign, Photoshop and Acrobat Pro.

I dug out an old Multi Function printer/scanner - Lexmark X3330 - and plugged 
it into the USB port so I could scan a document. I'd not used this printer on 
this computer before - my Mac Mini using 10.6.4

First I tried Preview. 
Under File Menu I find 'Import from Scanner' then selected Lexmark X3330 that 
was displayed as the scanner of choice.
It immediately did exactly what I needed and scanned the document. Very nice I 
thought. Remember I'd not installed anything for this printer, Mac OS had found 
the right driver and made all the right connections for this to just work. 

Then I tried Adobe Acrobat Pro,  looking forward to what the best of Adobe 
could do for me. 
Hmmm, I can't get very far. 
It had one Scanning device preinstalled, a Canon MP470, which won't connect to 
my scanner.
I downloaded the latest drivers to suit my OS and the Lexmark printer/scanner, 
and installed them. 
Still no luck with Acrobat picking up the newly installed printer software. 
Restart computer just in case that would make a difference. 
Nope, no luck. 
Instructions were no help at all, it just appears to not like my scanner, nor 
want to be helpful in helping me find a solution. Plenty of PC based answers, 
just very short of Mac solutions. 

I don't particularly care about this, so don't want anyone to fuss about 
helping me work it out, it's moreso another example of how useful Preview is 
out of the box.   Of course, if there is a simple solution, I'd be happy to 
know. 

BTW, I was also able to scan using the Print driver in System Preferences - all 
very simple and straight forward, unlike Acrobat Pro!!

Long live Preview  :-)


Tim


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Re: PREVIEW - add pages to a PDF

[gary dorn]

Neil
good explanation
A.. is what we did,
I'll have a go at B..

thanks - very helpful



Hi Gary,

The thing about Preview in Snow Leopard is that it works a little
differently to previous versions.

The thing to remember is that you can now have several documents open in the
same window - you can see this when opening pdfs:

Double-click a number of pdfs individually and they will each open up in
their own window BUT select a number of pdfs and then go File/Open (or
command-O) and they will all open in one Window.

The title-bar of the window also reflect what's going on:

- A single pdf window will have something like:
blurb.pdf (page 2 of 5)

- A multiple pdf window will have something like:
blurb-pdf (page 2 of 5) (3 documents, 15 total pages)


With the new system (assuming you have the sidebar view set to "Thumbnails")
each document appears separately in the sidebar and can individually be
expanded to show all the pages of the document as thumbnails or collapsed to
show just one thumbnail for that document.



With the new system dragging pages to the sidebar also works differently:

A.. If you just drag a page from the sidebar of one window to the sidebar of
another window, it will be added as a separate document - I suspect that
this is what you did - whilst you can move from page to page in the one
window, both documents remain separate and if you "save" you are just saving
whichever document is selected (not all the pages of both documents in the
sidebar).

B... If you actually want to add the page INTO another pdf you have 
to drag the

page ONTO the actual sidbar icon/thumbnail of the document you want to
insert into - you should then see (in the window title-bar) the page count
of the document increase  (rather than the document count) and if you now
save that document it will include the added page.



At first, it's quite confusing (and not particularly well documented) -
especially when you are used to the old way - until you realise what is
happening. However, once you get used to it, it works very well.


I hope my explanation makes sense - play with a few pdfs to see how it all
works.


Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 4/8/10 5:16 PM, gary dorn at garyd...@ausconnect.net wrote:



 howdy
 my wife received via email a 2 separate of pages of a manual ( scans).

 we moved these into a single PDF of 2 pages - easy enough to do
 (Mac OS 10.6.2)

 BUT

 if we go to reopen this created PDF at a later date, it only has a
 single page in the side bar, there is nothing else in it.

 We tried exporting and printtoPDF, but alas make no difference.

 Are we doing something wrong?

 we resolved the situation by adding the pages to a blank PAGES file
 and then printing to PDF.

 seems strange to me
 thanks




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Re: PREVIEW - add pages to a PDF

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Gary,

The thing about Preview in Snow Leopard is that it works a little
differently to previous versions.

The thing to remember is that you can now have several documents open in the
same window - you can see this when opening pdfs:

Double-click a number of pdfs individually and they will each open up in
their own window BUT select a number of pdfs and then go File/Open (or
command-O) and they will all open in one Window.

The title-bar of the window also reflect what's going on:

- A single pdf window will have something like:
blurb.pdf (page 2 of 5)

- A multiple pdf window will have something like:
blurb-pdf (page 2 of 5) (3 documents, 15 total pages)


With the new system (assuming you have the sidebar view set to "Thumbnails")
each document appears separately in the sidebar and can individually be
expanded to show all the pages of the document as thumbnails or collapsed to
show just one thumbnail for that document.



With the new system dragging pages to the sidebar also works differently:

If you just drag a page from the sidebar of one window to the sidebar of
another window, it will be added as a separate document - I suspect that
this is what you did - whilst you can move from page to page in the one
window, both documents remain separate and if you "save" you are just saving
whichever document is selected (not all the pages of both documents in the
sidebar).

If you actually want to add the page INTO another pdf you have to drag the
page ONTO the actual sidbar icon/thumbnail of the document you want to
insert into - you should then see (in the window title-bar) the page count
of the document increase  (rather than the document count) and if you now
save that document it will include the added page.



At first, it's quite confusing (and not particularly well documented) -
especially when you are used to the old way - until you realise what is
happening. However, once you get used to it, it works very well.


I hope my explanation makes sense - play with a few pdfs to see how it all
works.


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 4/8/10 5:16 PM, gary dorn at garyd...@ausconnect.net wrote:

> 
> howdy
> my wife received via email a 2 separate of pages of a manual ( scans).
> 
> we moved these into a single PDF of 2 pages - easy enough to do
> (Mac OS 10.6.2)
> 
> BUT
> 
> if we go to reopen this created PDF at a later date, it only has a
> single page in the side bar, there is nothing else in it.
> 
> We tried exporting and printtoPDF, but alas make no difference.
> 
> Are we doing something wrong?
> 
> we resolved the situation by adding the pages to a blank PAGES file
> and then printing to PDF.
> 
> seems strange to me
> thanks
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PREVIEW - add pages to a PDF

[Justin Davies]

I also use combinepdf which works a treat

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On 4 Aug 2010, at 5:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> 
> On 04/08/2010, at 5:16 PM, gary dorn wrote:
> 
>> 
>> howdy
>> my wife received via email a 2 separate of pages of a manual ( scans).
>> 
>> we moved these into a single PDF of 2 pages - easy enough to do
>> (Mac OS 10.6.2)
>> 
>> BUT
>> 
>> if we go to reopen this created PDF at a later date, it only has a single 
>> page in the side bar, there is nothing else in it.
>> 
>> We tried exporting and printtoPDF, but alas make no difference.
>> 
>> Are we doing something wrong?
>> 
>> we resolved the situation by adding the pages to a blank PAGES file and then 
>> printing to PDF.
>> 
>> seems strange to me
>> thanks
> 
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Did you create your PDF as follows?
> 
> In Preview Application:
> 
> 1. Open the first page / PDF and then View/Sidebar/Show Sidebar. 
> 
> 2. Drag all files / pages to the sidebar in preview. 
> 
> 3. Select all the Side Bar files you want in the pdf. 
> 
> 4. Go to File > Print SELECTED file (under the regular print command) 
> and then save as PDF.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
> 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
> 
> OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PREVIEW - add pages to a PDF

[Ronda Brown]

On 04/08/2010, at 5:16 PM, gary dorn wrote:

> 
> howdy
> my wife received via email a 2 separate of pages of a manual ( scans).
> 
> we moved these into a single PDF of 2 pages - easy enough to do
> (Mac OS 10.6.2)
> 
> BUT
> 
> if we go to reopen this created PDF at a later date, it only has a single 
> page in the side bar, there is nothing else in it.
> 
> We tried exporting and printtoPDF, but alas make no difference.
> 
> Are we doing something wrong?
> 
> we resolved the situation by adding the pages to a blank PAGES file and then 
> printing to PDF.
> 
> seems strange to me
> thanks


Hi Gary,

Did you create your PDF as follows?

In Preview Application:

1. Open the first page / PDF and then View/Sidebar/Show Sidebar. 

2. Drag all files / pages to the sidebar in preview. 

3. Select all the Side Bar files you want in the pdf. 

4. Go to File > Print SELECTED file (under the regular print command) 
and then save as PDF.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)






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