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--- Support our Sponsor OrderBox - Save 70% at Amazon, Barnes&Noble and Borders Get a $100.00 CREDIT! http://click.topica.com/Qrb1dhdKb1tdRUa/OrderMarket I suppose the reality is that while military spending is important, education is more important. If not for education, we would not be able to have negotiations, conversations, discussions.. we would rely on bombing campaigns.. but then again, without education, how would the atomic and nuclear weapons have been made / Our system is not perfect, but I know that my children have the oppoortunity to furhter their education, if they choose. And in reality that is where our future lies maree > > Thanks Maree, > > I had hear in Aus, it is much easier to get an education, and wanted > everyone to know, so we could build consciousness of our education > choices, and improve the education decisions in places like the United > States where there is a huge gap between the poor and rich, and education > is so important to an individuals earning potential, and so costly! We > are far from assuring the equal opportunity that we think makes our > democracy so good. > > If our countries made education the priority over military spending, > what kind of world do you think this would be? > > ___ > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email > Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 > referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! > > ___ > T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 > Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics > ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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--- Support our Sponsor Sponsored by VeriSign - The Internet Trust Company What all your customers want: secure online shopping. Get VeriSign's Secure Site Seal and 128-bit SSL encryption on your site! FREE Guide! http://click.topica.com/Pgb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Verisign > Hi Nick, > > I have heard students around the world pay much less for their college > educations than students in the United States have to pay for their > college educations. I would like to raise awareness of differences in > college cost. Would you mind telling us what is the adverage cost annual > cost of a college education in New Zealand? > In Aus, we have Higher Education Contributions (HECS), these range from hundreds (TAFE - technichal and further education Colleges) up to about $5000 p.a. for Engineering, medicine, law courses at uni. Not all are up front, they are means teasted and you pay back when your income reaches a certain level. Pay back through taxation (6%?). And while, our taxation levels may be higher, all who want the opportunity to furhter their education have access, and when they earn an income, they pay back, Students are also entitled (means tested) to Austudy, similar to unemployment benefits, but for full time students. maree > ___ > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email > Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 > referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! > > ___ > T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 > Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics > --- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/Qmb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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--- Support our Sponsor HOLIDAY TRAVEL FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR - Lowest airfare in the sky, vacation packages, cruises. Get thousands of travel agents competing for your business. Save with new FREE site! http://click.topica.com/Q2b1dhdKb1tdRUa/Imandi In Israel the annual cost (without books, rent and other paraphernelia, photocopying, Internet, food and other unnecessary things) is 10,000 NIS (which is about US$2,500). It may sound very cheap to you, but remember that we have much lower wages and that we're first in the world in the Economist "Big Mac rate" (basically, it checks the price of Big Mac, which is sold all over the world and supposed to be the same. It checks the stadard of living vs. the money you have). In other words it is more or less equivalent to $10,000. I understood that had I studied in Europe, I would have had to pay about 2,000 pounds. A bit more, but not much more. And unlike the US, we rarely have financial aid and grant programmes. OK stop cying ;-) = Guru at http://www.political-tips.com Drop by and check out All New Tips and All New Links, ask a question and get answers for FREE, and subscribe to the weekly Newsletter!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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--- Support our Sponsor Does your child struggle in school? Discover Sylvan Learning Centers and get $100 off enrollment, $25 off a Skill Assessment, or a FREE video. http://click.topica.com/vpb1dhdKb1tdRUa/SylvanLearning Thanks for responding, Nick. I hope others take note of the difference in education cost. It seems to me the cost of an education and beginning the adult phase of life already in heavy debt, is a subject that should unite young people around the world. Does anyone understand technocracy? Someone is trying to convince me that technocracy would mean plenty for everyone and therefore it would also end wars. My head is being very stubborn about understanding technocracy, but I would love a world where education were very affordable and people had time for education all their lives. If an economic system would make this possible, and at the same maintain our individual liberty and power, change would be a very good thing. --- Sponsor's Message -- REDUCE YOUR DEBT FOR FREE!! #1 Rated Method Of Reducing Debt And Improving Your Credit Rating! This reputable NON-Profit can assist you at absolutely NO COST! Click here for more information. http://click.topica.com/OUb1dhdKb1tdRUc/e-debtconsolidation ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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Hi
Hopefully this isn't too off topic!
I'll use my course for this year only as an example:
eight papers (ie. courses) at either $NZ 480 or $550 each. Works out at
around $NZ 4050 for the year.
Multiply that by five years for my degree equals $NZ 20,250
So in US dollars that is $US 1615 for this year, and $US 8,070 (approx) for
five year degree. (If I'm converting correctly).
Take into account the current unusual exchange rate between NZ and the US of
course!!
Of course these are at subsidised (by government) rates as you will find in
most post-British-colonial countries (e.g. Australia). Still, fees rise
quite considerable every year and it is still very very difficult for
students to live without borrowing for tuition through the government
student loan scheme. This leaves most graduates spending much of their adult
life paying off their debt to the government.
Hope this gives you all a little bit of insight :)
Nick
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> Hi Nick,
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> I have heard students around the world pay much less for their college
> educations than students in the United States have to pay for their
> college educations. I would like to raise awareness of differences in
> college cost. Would you mind telling us what is the adverage cost annual
> cost of a college education in New Zealand?
>
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--- Support our Sponsor OrderBox - Save 70% at Amazon, Barnes&Noble and Borders Get a $100.00 CREDIT! http://click.topica.com/Qrb1dhdKb1tdRUa/OrderMarket Good show Matt, The Web site I checked for estimated cost of one year of college in US this year is, $11,375. The exchange rate for pounds and dollars is close to 67 cents for a dollar, so you might as well double $11,375, to roughly 22,000 in pounds. Can someone give better figures? This $11,375 is for public universities. Private ones are much more expensive. I think this cost of education is ridiculous for a nation that insist it wants well educated people, and many of us seriously question how well individuals are educated for this money. What do you think? --- Support our Sponsor Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/Ijb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Aria ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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Nick J. Christiansen
Auckland, New Zealand
Student at the University of Auckland in:
- Law
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Policy, New Zealand - United States Relations, etc.
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